CCE One-Click Software Beta

[geffroman]

Originally posted by luphy
I often do backups of episodes and will use Shrink to trim out the repetitive intros/credits. But that creates several titlesets. I am guessing that what you really need is a great editor... I am a huge fan of Sopranos, CSI, Law & Order, NYPD, MASH and have done tons of episodic DVDs. You can keep the menus for navigation and delete just about anything you want... remove buttons, substitute intros and extras or delete them creating the perfect DVD for you with DVDReMake (Thread here). (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70006)

Then run the finished project through DVD-RB.

DVD-RM + DVD-RB = DVD-Perfection !

[robw]

Originally posted by geffroman
Then run the finished project through DVD-RB.

DVD-RM + DVD-RB = DVD-Perfection !

Geffroman
you've got a great product and I absolutely agree that the combination with DVD-RB is an absolutely amazing combination.

[geffroman]

Originally posted by robw
Geffroman
you've got a great product and I absolutely agree that the combination with DVD-RB is an absolutely amazing combination. I wish it was mine... I am just a happy customer sharing the good word...

[robw]

Originally posted by geffroman
I wish it was mine... I am just a happy customer sharing the good word...

oops. I actually did know that ... Dimad's the one :)
Your name just pops in my mind because you started the thread in the ifo/vob editors section.

[YaoMing11]

How is the quality using Rejig with DVD-RB compared to say Instant Copy 8 if I had to compress the movie to around 73%? I'd really like to know you guys' opinions.

[nwg]

Rejig is excellent. I have done as low as 65% and it was excellent to look at.

[E-Male]

Originally posted by YaoMing11
How is the quality using Rejig with DVD-RB compared to say Instant Copy 8 if I had to compress the movie to around 73%? I'd really like to know you guys' opinions.
to really answere this question you have to try both with every movie you want to transcode, because it depends much on the material

[djan]

Originally posted by geffroman
DVD-RM + DVD-RB = DVD-Perfection ! Can't I make the job with DVDStripper and MenuEdit ? :)

[Axlemar]

I heard that Jdobbs is going to support tmpgenc eventually, thanks for the range of encoders by the way. I was wondering if Quenc or tmpgenc give better results and is there a way to test tmpgenc as of right now, through a plugin or a possible script. This program has come a long way in a short time and I hope the stutter and sync issues are resolved. Thanks a lot Jdobbs!

[cdburrner]

yo jdobbs...

how possible would it be to have rebuilder keep a temp log, enabling it to resume a project that went bad? i use CCE 2.66+ and 2.50 and every once in a while it'll hang while encoding. but works fine the second or third time around. is this possible at all? for example cce hangs while encoding the 5th part of VTS #2... you just reopen rebuilder and load up your project and log. rebuilder notices that the last completed part was the 4th section of VTS #2, and you can continue on from there. or perhaps you could even switch between different versions of CCE... perhaps 2.67 was freezing for some unknown reason. and you could continue where you left off with an older version of CCE. just a though. i'm not sure how hard this would be to implement, but it's sounds dooable in theory.

let me know what you think!

also, do you plan on making rebuilder delete the D2VAVS folder once a job is successfully completed?

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! you're the f*ing man.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by cdburrner
yo jdobbs...

how possible would it be to have rebuilder keep a temp log, enabling it to resume a project that went bad? i use CCE 2.66+ and 2.50 and every once in a while it'll hang while encoding. but works fine the second or third time around. is this possible at all? for example cce hangs while encoding the 5th part of VTS #2... you just reopen rebuilder and load up your project and log. rebuilder notices that the last completed part was the 4th section of VTS #2, and you can continue on from there. or perhaps you could even switch between different versions of CCE... perhaps 2.67 was freezing for some unknown reason. and you could continue where you left off with an older version of CCE. just a though. i'm not sure how hard this would be to implement, but it's sounds dooable in theory.

let me know what you think!

also, do you plan on making rebuilder delete the D2VAVS folder once a job is successfully completed?

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK! you're the f*ing man. I'll implement this as a part of the pause and resume function.

[cdburrner]

sweet jesus! what a reply, and in a very timely manner to boot!...

one quick question though. by pause and resume, do you mean resume from where you paused? or do you mean resume as in "yeah, CCE 2.66 sh*t the bed, i had to restart my computer. good thing i can open rebuilder and resume from VTS #89" i'm curious as to how rebuilder handles CCE... are the files it makes to be used with CCE exclusive to that version alone? or is my question about resuming a project with a different version of CCE a crazy man's dream and a programmer's nightmare?

you know JD... i did post saying i would donate and i would have done so this morning, if it weren't for a speeding ticket last night. rest assured you'll be getting what i can send on the 15th. we in the department of defense call that payday.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by cdburrner
sweet jesus! what a reply, and in a very timely manner to boot!...

one quick question though. by pause and resume, do you mean resume from where you paused? or do you mean resume as in "yeah CCE sh*t the bed, i had to restart my computer. good thing i can open rebuilder and resume from VTS #89" just wondering.

you know jd... i did post saying i would donate and i would have done so this morning, if it weren't for a speeding ticket last night. rest assured you'll be getting what i can send on the 15th. I plan to make it resume after the last successful step. But remember there are some limitations. If CCE (or some other package) screws up, but successfully returns to DVD-RB, there is no way for the program to know that -- and it will asssume everything is ok...

BTW: Sorry about the ticket...

[cdburrner]

yeah they suck.... i was just restationed from anchorage, alaska to panama city beach, florida... these damn highways down here. flat, straight... looking like a runway, but damned if they lift the speed limit over 45!

well, peace out. time for OVER-priced beer and UNDER-aged girls. ahhh spring break.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Axlemar
I heard that Jdobbs is going to support tmpgenc eventually, thanks for the range of encoders by the way. I was wondering if Quenc or tmpgenc give better results and is there a way to test tmpgenc as of right now, through a plugin or a possible script. This program has come a long way in a short time and I hope the stutter and sync issues are resolved. Thanks a lot Jdobbs! You can open AVS files with TMPGEnc if you have it set up right. You could run PREPARE, and then run TMPGENC on the resulting AVS files, followed by a REBUILD. But you'd have to someone determine and set all the configuration parameters for TMPEGENC. I'm not familiar enough with its file formats to do that automatically or it would be supported already.

I can tell you that from my experience in the past, TMPGENC was second only to CCE -- but that was before all the FFMPEG improvements that QuEnc has. So I'm not sure how they rate against each other now.

[cdburrner]

and one more thing.... perhaps i can donate in another way. besides domestic currency....

how bout a nifty, new icon for dvdrb? anything you're needing graphics wise? not saying you're not capable of photoshoping something up... just offering.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by cdburrner
yeah they suck.... i was just restationed from anchorage, alaska to panama city beach, florida... these damn highways down here. flat, straight... looking like a runway, but damned if they lift the speed limit over 45!

well, peace out. time for OVER-priced beer and UNDER-aged girls. ahhh spring break. Elmendorf to Tyndall I assume... big change.

[cdburrner]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Elmendorf to Tyndall I assume... big change.

wow! you're not in are you? ok ok ok... this time i'm really out. later.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by cdburrner
wow! you're not in are you? No. But I get around.

[geffroman]

Originally posted by djan
Can't I make the job with DVDStripper and MenuEdit ? :)

Sure... That would change the equation to:

DVDStripper + MenuEdit + DVD-RB = Extra Steps:cool:

IMHO

[cdburrner]

yo dobbs...

i'm using RB .31 and cce 2.66 doesnt like one of the cells... but i can close out the project and CCE will automatically go on to the next file and finish the rest of the movie... once CCE's finished, if i wanted to edit the rebuilder.ecl file to only include the problematic cell could i load it into a different version of CCE? i guess what i'm asking is if ecl files are universal or are they exclusive to the version of CCE used?

perhaps this could be used as a work around? if RB detects that cce hangs or freezes on a particular cell, it could skip it, go on and give the user a notice once the encoding is done... asking the user to pick a different method of encoding and finish the job up.

edit: and if anyone else knows the answer to my eclcce question, feel more than free to answer it and save jdobbs the hastle. i would just test this for myself, but i'm away from my (personal)computer for a while and kinda mulling over it.

[djan]

Originally posted by geffroman
Sure... That would change the equation to:

DVDStripper + MenuEdit + DVD-RB = Extra Steps:cool:

IMHO But the result is the same. :) --> Perfect backup !

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by cdburrner
yo dobbs...

i'm using RB .31 and cce 2.66 doesnt like one of the cells... but i can close out the project and CCE will automatically go on to the next file and finish the rest of the movie... once CCE's finished, if i wanted to edit the rebuilder.ecl file to only include the problematic cell could i load it into a different version of CCE? i guess what i'm asking is if ecl files are universal or are they exclusive to the version of CCE used?

perhaps this could be used as a work around? if RB detects that cce hangs or freezes on a particular cell, it could skip it, go on and give the user a notice once the encoding is done... asking the user to pick a different method of encoding and finish the job up.

edit: and if anyone else knows the answer to my eclcce question, feel more than free to answer it and save jdobbs the hastle. i would just test this for myself, but i'm away from my (personal)computer for a while and kinda mulling over it. ECLs change between versions of CCE. Define "doesn't like it" -- it isn't very often that the problem is in CCE...

[cdburrner]

define it... well i ripped the dvd at 9x and cce 2.66 would start the 6th vaf of vts 1... it would always do the first pass... while doing the actual encoding it would freeze at 88% (tried it 3 times) . i thought maybe i ripped it too fast and the original VOB was corrupt. i ripped it again at 2x. now 2.66 freezes at 98%. 2.50 didnt have a problem with either rip.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by cdburrner
define it... well i ripped the dvd at 9x and cce 2.66 would start the 6th vaf of vts 1... it would always do the first pass... while doing the actual encoding it would freeze at 88% (tried it 3 times) . i thought maybe i ripped it too fast and the original VOB was corrupt. i ripped it again at 2x. now 2.66 freezes at 98%. 2.50 didnt have a problem with either rip. Now that's interesting... what's the movie? I'd like to take a look at it.

[cdburrner]

i'm backing up CSI season 1... this problem is with disc 3. perhaps it's the disc, but i highly doubt it...

maybe i'll even try ripping it with smart ripper, might make a difference. i've have seen stranger things when it comes to dvds.

also... the source is interlaced, i check decomb and i have the path for decomb.dll correct, but my output is still interlaced. i think i've seen someone already post on this subject, but i dont remember what was said. i'm not too worried as the output still looked fine (considering the original quality isnt too great to begin with) and but i assume that sometimes it's better to keep interlaced video interlaced.

[cdburrner]

ok... what i did.

CCE 2.66 went on about its way once i closed out the job for the 6th vaf of VTS 1, encoding the rest of the movie without a problem. i then opened rebuilder.ecl and edited it, leaving only the info pointing the the problematic section...
--------------------------------------------------------------------

title=V01000500001006
aud_out=0
vaf_file=C:\dvdrip\dvd5\D2VAVS\V01000500001006.vaf
aud_file=C:\dvdrip\dvd5\D2VAVS\V01000500001006.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=480
frame_rate_idx=4
cbr_brate=6000
vbr_brate_avg=920
vbr_brate_min=000
vbr_brate_max=9000
seq_endcode=0
dvd=0
half_width=0
half_height=0
lum_level=0
aspect_ratio=2
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gap_length=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
progressive=0
alternate_scan=1
intra_dc_prec=2
aud_mode=0
tc_ref_frame=0
drop_frame=0
fix_vbv_delay=0
letter_box=0
pulldown_detect=0
create_new_vaf=1
credits_tweak=0
credits_start=0x00000
credits_brate=1000
h_filter=0
h_filter_idx=8
dither=0
dither_max=8
qmat_idx=0
quality_prec=20
vid_file0=C:\dvdrip\dvd5\D2VAVS\V01000500001006.m2v
vid_file1=C:\dvdrip\dvd5\D2VAVS\V01000500001006.m2v
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
video_type=4
timecode=0x0000000
opv_q_factor=20
opv_brate_min=0
opv_brate_max=9000
vbr_bias=5
vbr_pass=2
use_filter=0
filter_val=6
non_linear=1
top_first=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1

[file]
name=C:\dvdrip\dvd5\D2VAVS\V01000500001006.avs
frame_first=0
frame_last=1076
encode_first=0
encode_last=1076
--------------------------------------------------------------------
i saved this in a different directory, keeping the original rebuilder.ecl intact. i also copy & pasted all the necessary D2V, AVS, and VAF files for this particular section to the folder with my nifty new ecl file. reopened EclCCE and tried one final time to encode it with 2.66. this time it froze at 44%, which i find rather wierd sinse it froze at the same place sooo many times before... now 44%? don't ask me...

now i try CCE 2.50 and it opens my edited ecl file (which rebuilder made for 2.66) and encodes just fine. you'll note the vbr averate is only 920.... this vaf was just like 30 seconds of credits. dont know if that matters... cce doesnt have some special filter for credits does it? i know other programs (for xvid) have them.

anyway... now that everything is encoded, rebuilder is still waiting for me to reauthor (i'm using the 3 step method)... it's half way done, but it [I]did get through "rebuilding segment 5 VOBID:1 CELLID:6" when updating information in NAVPACKS just fine!

UPDATE: well, rebuilder finished uh... rebuilding. and the final product works just fine. i guess you can use an ecl file intended for one particular version of CCE with another after all.

[candsh]

I have never used CCE but have been following this thread(s) with much interest. Decided to try it and used Rejig and had perfect results the first time I used it on "Cast Away". Was so excited that I ordered CCE Basic ( $58 sales@visiblelight.com) and have been shut out since. Jdobbs has remarked that he is turning out DVD after DVD with CCE Basic and no problems. Is there a place to show how to set it up for this program. I have read the guides but all that is there is for the RobShot method. All I am doing now is crashing the computer about 3/4 of the way thru. Followed all the setup instructions to the letter but there must be something more to setting up CCE than my pea brain can grasp.

[cdburrner]

what exactly do you mean by "set up"? rebuilder does everything for you, save the few options it gives you... and as far as they go...

i personally use a VERY low bias when encoding very long movies or episodic (TV) dvds... such as CSI, which i'm doing right now... it's about 180+ minutes per disc and full screen to boot, which makes quite a difference. (takes up more space than widescreen sinse the picture's larger)

as for quality_prec i leave it at about 20.

and passes... you can get into a rather heated discussion about the number of passes one should use. i'll go with 2 passes if i'm dropping down a drama (read: not too much action or movement) or a shorter movie. i'll make 3 passes on longer movies or movies with lots of action or scenes with lots of detail (matrix revolutions) pretty much anything with lots of fire, water, rain... things like that. every once in a while i'll go 4 or 5, but that's just on special occasions like lord of the rings.

just make sure that you copy all the files in the EclCCE zip you download into your CCE folder. run eclcce and the first time it'll ask you to direct it to the cce main program exe. after that, open rebuilder and go to settings under options. it asks for the file path to CCE 2.50, CCE (new), rejig, etc... make sure that you direct it to the eclcce program and not cce!!!

and one more thing. you can set up rebuilder to use multiple versions of CCE, but just make sure that for each version you have it in a different folder (duh) and have a different eclcce for each version... otherwise, you might think you're using cce 2.50 cause you checked it off in the options in rebuilder, but the path you gave it will take you to the eclcce you already pointed at cce 2.66 or 2.67

hopefully i havent been too confusing. if so, just explain what you're not understanding.

[candsh]

Thanks cdburrner,
I have not included the eclcce files in my CCE Basic. I wasn't sure I needed it for this version. Will download and set them up and try again. Thanks very much for your quick response.

[cdburrner]

hmm... i've actually never used the basic version before, so you quite possibly dont even neet eclcce... but hey, it couldnt hurt.

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by cdburrner
hmm... i've actually never used the basic version before, so you quite possibly dont even neet eclcce... but hey, it couldnt hurt.

You dont.

[robot1]

EclCCE is needed for CCE2.50 and for CCE2.x demo.
CCE Basic doesn't need EclCCE.
@candsh
are you sure that your computer is "rock stable" ?
Other users haven't crashes with cce basic.

[facialcrunch]

I was trying to use version 0.34 to copy the Gladiator Widescreen DVD. The original is 7.8 GB. I am using CCESP (new) with it with CCEECL. I've tried the one-step process and the three-step process. Both times, it took about 3-4 hrs. and I got my resultant AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS (with files) folders without errors. If I open the folder with the files with PowerDVD, it works fine. If I open it with Cineplayer or WinDVD, it freezes. I've used DVDFab and Nero to burn each to a DVDR- and it will not run on my computer or hardware DVD player. The burned disk freezes on the computer and when I try to load it in my hardware DVD, it pauses for about 10 seconds and then skips to the next disk. I haven't tried another movie yet.

Have you seen this problem before? Have I done something wrong? Just my experience to help with the progress. Thanks for the beginnings of a great program!

[Joergen]

Originally posted by facialcrunch
I was trying to use version 0.34 to copy the Gladiator Widescreen DVD. The original is 7.8 GB. I am using CCESP (new) with it with CCEECL. I've tried the one-step process and the three-step process. Both times, it took about 3-4 hrs. and I got my resultant AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS (with files) folders without errors. If I open the folder with the files with PowerDVD, it works fine. If I open it with Cineplayer or WinDVD, it freezes. I've used DVDFab and Nero to burn each to a DVDR- and it will not run on my computer or hardware DVD player. The burned disk freezes on the computer and when I try to load it in my hardware DVD, it pauses for about 10 seconds and then skips to the next disk. I haven't tried another movie yet.

Have you seen this problem before? Have I done something wrong? Just my experience to help with the progress. Thanks for the beginnings of a great program!

I just did Gladiator (russel crowe) Special two disc limited edition R2 with the same setup as you without problems (have now watched it half-way also). I'm currently encoding the extras-disc.

[luphy]

I read somewhere that DVD2DVDR does not require writing temp files during the encoding process but can read/process data directly off the DVD?

Does DVDRB do the same or does it require a complete decrypted HD copy to process?

[tf]

It requires the DVD to be decrypted.

-tf

[luphy]

Just some general questions:

How long does it take to encode using QuEnc versus CCE (2 or 3 passes total)?

And let's assume a high compression is needed for a certain movie, is QuEnc definitely better than Rejig or other transcoders? I know it's a somewhat forbidden question, but it seems at least that everyone agrees that CCE definitely beats out the transcoders at high compression.

And regarding versions of CCE, is there any reason people are still using 2.50 instead of 2.6 or 2.7?

[Joergen]

CCE takes long theres no doubt, on an XP2100+ (your lower end CPU today) about 5 hours for a movie in 3pass (which is enough passes imo) and I dont care about other encoders because they cant touch CCE.

But if a movie can be transcoded, it can be transcoded with dvdshrink. And if it cant (below 75%), then it should be done with CCE imho.

[nwg]

How long does it take to encode using QuEnc versus CCE (2 or 3 passes total)?

QuEnc does a two pass encode. It is about the same time as a two pass CCE. The quality is excellent.

I like it very much but it suffers from the runtime error 5 problem during the rebuild stage on some DVD's.

I am using CCE2.50 and plan to stick with it. It works well for me.

[Cokedealer]

Dunno if i missed it or not but is multi angles included yet? It would help for some of these anime dvds im working on.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Cokedealer
Dunno if i missed it or not but is multi angles included yet? It would help for some of these anime dvds im working on. Not yet. I've suspended it until I get the stuttering out.

[dancis]

I am getting buffer overflow errors all the time when rebuilding reaches about 96% .

Can this be a memory issue? how much mb does DVD-rb require?

[Joergen]

I've got 1GB of RAM myself, and plenty of swap space. But I doubt there are requirements for those?

jdobbs: what does DVD-RB say when it runs out of space on the HD during encode or recompile?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dancis
I am getting buffer overflow errors all the time when rebuilding reaches about 96% .

Can this be a memory issue? how much mb does DVD-rb require? No. It doesn't take that much memory. The size of the buffer isn't the problem -- when I hit these situations it will overflow no matter how big I make it. Here's the priority right now:

1. BFF field order working properly
2. Stuttering done.
3. Runtime error '9'
4. Buffer overflows 0004 and 0003

I will also sprinkle other things (requests that don't take a lot of thought) into versions as I work these.

[danjx]

Sigh, I need help. I have used instructions for install and usage that were posted in this thread (page 8, I think).
This is my first attemp with DVD Rebuilder or CCE.

OS: Windows XP Home
DVD Rebuilder .38
CCE SP Trial 2.67
Mode CCE
One Click Mode

PHASE II Encoding
- Creating M2V for VTS_xx segment yy
Dialog Title "Limitation of Trial Version"
Error Message: Can't open ed file.

Clicked through all these dialogs then get "Nothing to do" error.

Probably a stupid error, but I can't find the answer. I have read up through page 12 so far of this thread.

Any suggestions?

[Paced]

Originally posted by danjx
Sigh, I need help. I have used instructions for install and usage that were posted in this thread (page 8, I think).
This is my first attemp with DVD Rebuilder or CCE.

OS: Windows XP Home
DVD Rebuilder .38
CCE SP Trial 2.67
Mode CCE
One Click Mode

PHASE II Encoding
- Creating M2V for VTS_xx segment yy
Dialog Title "Limitation of Trial Version"
Error Message: Can't open ed file.

Clicked through all these dialogs then get "Nothing to do" error.

Probably a stupid error, but I can't find the answer. I have read up through page 12 so far of this thread.

Any suggestions?

I'm pretty sure with a trial version of CCE, you'll need to feed it through EclCCE for it to work, so go here and download it:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46664

Once you've downloaded and extracted it, double click on EclCCE.exe and show it where your CCE executable is (when you open EclCCE for the first time, it will ask you to point to your CCE executable).

Once you've done that, open DVD Rebuilder, then change your "Path to CCE SP (New)" to your EclCCE.exe. That should do it, I hope :)

[HarryM]

@jdobbs:

Can you add a "auto power OFF" feature, like vdubmod, please?

Do you plan a AC3 reencoding support in DVD-RB (AC3-5.1 384kbps > AC3-2.1 192kbps, AC3-5.1 448kbps > AC3-2.1 224kbps, etc.)??? :D

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by HarryM
@jdobbs:

Can you add a "auto power OFF" feature, like vdubmod, please?

Do you plan a AC3 reencoding support in DVD-RB (AC3-5.1 384kbps > AC3-2.1 192kbps, AC3-5.1 448kbps > AC3-2.1 224kbps, etc.)??? :D I hadn't planned to. But I wouldn't rule it out after all the bugs are worked out.

[danjx]

Originally posted by Paced
I'm pretty sure with a trial version of CCE, you'll need to feed it through EclCCE for it to work, so go here and download it:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46664

Once you've downloaded and extracted it, double click on EclCCE.exe and show it where your CCE executable is (when you open EclCCE for the first time, it will ask you to point to your CCE executable).

Once you've done that, open DVD Rebuilder, then change your "Path to CCE SP (New)" to your EclCCE.exe. That should do it, I hope :)

Yes, that was the problem. Thanks for the help and thanks to jdobbs for a wonderful program. I have now completed my first backup using DVD Rebuilder, and I'm looking forward to many more.