CCE One-Click Software Beta

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by psdos
jdobbs, DVD-RB dont work with CCE 2.67.00.23 because the AVS file is not complete, you´ll know say me if in AVS is if necesary?

LoadPlugin("C:\windows\system32\MPEG2DEC.DLL") Go back through the thread and find references to the registry entry for AVISYNTH -- that's where your problem is. Also make sure MPEG2DEC.DLL is located in the AVISYNTH plug-in directory. I'd also recommend you use MPEG2DEC3dg. My parsing of the D2V files is based upon the dg versions (so there are no missing frames).

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by hypo20
Ok.

Here's my configuration for DVD-RB 0.23 and CCE SP 2.66 and higher.
eclCCE and DVD-RB 0.23 also included. Just put CCE and files in archive to the same dir and run dvd-rb.

@jdobbs
If you have something against distributing on my server, please let me know, and I will remove it.

http://www.columnium.com/hypo/dvdrb/dvdrbini.zip As long as it stays up-to-date. The changes are being made daily, and I want to avoid getting bug reports on older versions. You'll notice that I've been deleting the older versions from this site as I go.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by jdobbs
As long as it stays up-to-date. The changes are being made daily, and I want to avoid getting bug reports on older versions. You'll notice that I've been deleting the older versions from this site as I go.

I'll be updating it too. Don't worry, I fully understand to you. :)

[jdobbs]

Just a note to all. I think I found what was causing the resizing error (only when using CCE). But, I posted before making a full test (it takes a while for a CCE encode). I'm hoping it correctly sizes now -- please let me know what sizes you are getting from the new calculation.

To all the beta testers: I sincerely thank you for your time and trouble.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by hypo20
http://www.columnium.com/hypo/dvdrb/dvdrbini.zip

Ok. Tested 0.24 version with this config. Link updated to last version. Put CCE and files inside archive to the same dir and work. :)

[zakmccrack]

Dear friends,
I`m new in the english forum of Doom9 :scared:

I`m writing a little utility {is in italian but there are only 2 buttons} that fix all the AVS file adding the line LoadPlugIn just with one click

If you need download the file above and remove `.txt` estension at the file

http://forum.doom9.it/download.php?id=624


ZakMcCrack:)

[Hoox]

@jdobbs:

Hi. Looks like you are making great progress. I'm still getting the Run-time error: '9' though :(

Im using DVD-RB 0.24
CCE 2.66.01.07 with ECLCCE 1.7b
Trying to backup "The Life of David Gale" R2.
I have ripped the dvd with DVDDecrypter and mounted with Daemon-Tools.

It looks like DVD-RB encodes all the small files but skips the big main movie and goes to Phase III - ReBuilding.
It gives me the Error 9 when trying to process VTS_02 wich is the not-encoded main movie.

[Roe5685]

i put this on two machines where i have no problem doing cce 2.5 by hand or using dvd2dvdr. with rebuilder on the one machine it freezes somewhere along the way. on the other machine it hits various runtime errors like "invalid property state". i must say that as the new rebuilds come out i seem to be getting further.
i tried rejig and it wanted me to put in a number from 1 to 100. i actually did this while i was having coffee but after two cups of coffee it was still asking for 1 to 100 input as if i was in a lottery so i had to abort.

my question is to the readers who seem to have gotten a lot further than me is do you have any suggestions at a basic level so i can get further alont with rebuilder?

what a fun interface!

rosemary.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Roe5685
i put this on two machines where i have no problem doing cce 2.5 by hand or using dvd2dvdr. with rebuilder on the one machine it freezes somewhere along the way. on the other machine it hits various runtime errors like "invalid property state". i must say that as the new rebuilds come out i seem to be getting further.
i tried rejig and it wanted me to put in a number from 1 to 100. i actually did this while i was having coffee but after two cups of coffee it was still asking for 1 to 100 input as if i was in a lottery so i had to abort.

my question is to the readers who seem to have gotten a lot further than me is do you have any suggestions at a basic level so i can get further alont with rebuilder?

what a fun interface!

rosemary. Put in a number? Where does that come from?

[Roe5685]

To answer your question:
Rejig puts a screen up that it is compressing. It tells you 55% or whatever and the program continures. However my screen came up 103% and rejig put up a small rectangle for the user to pick a number from 1 to 100 and the 103% was highlighted on the larger screen. We all understand the issue here and I supplied the number. The screen came back up and I arbitarily supplied new % numbers several times before I gave up. i.e. I kept moving the number supplied downwards towards zero.
Further information:
I just tried on a third computer used to do cce projects by hand ( and sometimes with dvd2dvdr ) to do a cce 2.5 and then a rejig job with rebuilder but kept getting "run time error "9" subscript out of range error". ( I had just processed this movie with dvd2avi,cce, ifoedit etc ). I then switched to from the lost in translation movie only decoded by dvddecrypter to a different movie chicago also on the hard drive and tried again with rejig. Chicago has reached video demuxing stage. ( I have reached this stage before ).
All of the above work was on NTSC material. I have not tried processing any PAL DVD's.
Good luck . Happy to help.

Rosemary.

[Roe5685]

I switched from using arbitrarily lost in translation and transporter to chicago and am getting further with my rebuilder attempts but have not yet completed once.
Have given up for the time being with cce 2.5 as I keep getting run time errors and additionally when i finish stage one it asks me for the cce 2.5 path which is in already in place but it does not proceed unless you put the cc2 2.5 path for the other two cce's.
On rejig I got to the end and at that point it said on the screen in addition to "100%" :
correcting VTS sectors
Improper Video_TS.Ifo file
Aborting

Does anybody have a clue what to do here?
Like maybe I should erase the ifo file?

Rosemary

[Offline]

At first I had the "subscript out of range error" and the orange stripes on the video problem using CCE 2.5 (full version) and 2.6x (Trial) plus EclCCE.

As well as following advice from this forum
(re: Mpeg2dec3 plugin fix + Resample Audio fix) I found that to get rid of both problems
I had to uninstall my copy of DVD2SVCD and AVISYNTH 2.5x, reinstall Avisynth 2.53. (latest version)and run Rebuilder in 3 click mode.

So far I tested 2 PAL progressive titles (one at half d1) with
impressive results (Q set at 5, passes at 4) using CCE 2.5 and
ReJig (with less impressive results of course ):D

[paulers]

Hi Everyone,

I apologize if this issue was covered before. I am using dvdrb .16 and CCe 2.5 and in small parts of the movie the audio is out of sync for a couple seconds. Any suggestions? The rest of the movie looks great!

I just read that there is a newer version of dvdrb out. Do you think this may fix my problem?

[tf]

Follow the ancient advice:

"Whenever in doubt, try"

;-)

-tf

[hypo20]

Originally posted by paulers
Hi Everyone,

I apologize if this issue was covered before. I am using dvdrb .16 and CCe 2.5 and in small parts of the movie the audio is out of sync for a couple seconds. Any suggestions? The rest of the movie looks great!

I just read that there is a newer version of dvdrb out. Do you think this may fix my problem?

.16??? 100yrs behind monkeys.

jdobbs is making big steps with every version, and now it's .24!!!

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Roe5685
To answer your question:
Rejig puts a screen up that it is compressing. It tells you 55% or whatever and the program continures. However my screen came up 103% and rejig put up a small rectangle for the user to pick a number from 1 to 100 and the 103% was highlighted on the larger screen. We all understand the issue here and I supplied the number. The screen came back up and I arbitarily supplied new % numbers several times before I gave up. i.e. I kept moving the number supplied downwards towards zero.
Further information:
I just tried on a third computer used to do cce projects by hand ( and sometimes with dvd2dvdr ) to do a cce 2.5 and then a rejig job with rebuilder but kept getting "run time error "9" subscript out of range error". ( I had just processed this movie with dvd2avi,cce, ifoedit etc ). I then switched to from the lost in translation movie only decoded by dvddecrypter to a different movie chicago also on the hard drive and tried again with rejig. Chicago has reached video demuxing stage. ( I have reached this stage before ).
All of the above work was on NTSC material. I have not tried processing any PAL DVD's.
Good luck . Happy to help.

Rosemary. That's a bug I've recently fixed. If you get a value greater than 100% that means your original disk is already small enough to fit on a DVD-R and there is no reason to compress it. I forgot to check for that -- so my code made the assumption that it could compress at a rate of 103% -- luckily Nic's ReJig software knows better and catches it.

Even more interesting is if you try this with CCE. It will actually redo all of the cells at a bitrate that is 107% of the original. Of course the quality can never be better than the original so there really is never a good time to do this.

[quantum]

@jdobbs: Enough talk. Yesterday we didn't have a new version of dvd-rb and this disappointed me greatly. It's getting late today and this concerns me that we may not have an update today. That would be two days in a row without an update. Please try to work harder to prevent lapses like this in the future. :)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
@jdobbs: Enough talk. Yesterday we didn't have a new version of dvd-rb and this disappointed me greatly. It's getting late today and this concerns me that we may not have an update today. That would be two days in a row without an update. Please try to work harder to prevent lapses like this in the future. :) Yeah. My wife wanted me to actually go out to dinner tonight. Can you believe it? I may not have another version until tomorrow. I'm trying to make sure the fixes are really in this time -- I was very excited about the code I used in .24 and released it before thoroughly testing. I was a little depressed to see it didn't fix the pixelation/program problems. I've since gone back and done more comparisons only to find that I have some audio packet offset problems in the NAVPACK. I looked at my values and thought they were right, but it disagrees with the output of other programs so my understanding of the standard must be wrong. That really sucks... now I have to do some (gulp) research.

[Trahald]

yeah.. wives are funny like that sometimes. go figure.

[robw]

Any married man should forget his mistakes, - there's no use in two people remembering the same thing. :)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by robw
Any married man should forget his mistakes, - there's no use in two people remembering the same thing. :) LOL

[sidders]

Will it be possible in later versions to adjust the bitrate between the extras and the main movie, ratehr than have the same bitrate for all?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by sidders
Will it be possible in later versions to adjust the bitrate between the extras and the main movie, ratehr than have the same bitrate for all? Absolutely. But any/all enhancements have to wait until I fix the existing bugs.

[paulers]

Hi everyone,

I have a size question.


I was using dvdrb v.16 and CCE 2.50 when I processed School of Rock with 4 passes and it came out to be 4.3g. Lastnight I switched to dvdrb v.24 and processed the same move adding an additional pass (totaling 5) and the total size came out to be 3.6g. Did I forget to adjust an option? Why would the movie come out so much smaller?

thanks for all your help! :)

[robw]

JDobbs has already explained. Its an inadvertant error that snuck in and will be fixed in the next release (today?).

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by paulers
Hi everyone,

I have a size question.


I was using dvdrb v.16 and CCE 2.50 when I processed School of Rock with 4 passes and it came out to be 4.3g. Lastnight I switched to dvdrb v.24 and processed the same move adding an additional pass (totaling 5) and the total size came out to be 3.6g. Did I forget to adjust an option? Why would the movie come out so much smaller?

thanks for all your help! :) It is a sizing bug that was introduced in v0.22 -- it's fixed and will be in v0.25.

[tf]

Here's hoping it WON'T be in 0.25 - the bug, that is! ;-)

-tf

[djan]

Isn't the time to close this topic and continue in the two other topics specially opened the one for "suggestions and comments" and the other for "errors and bugs" ? Because we become a little confused to read all the 3 topics for one program.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by djan
Isn't the time to close this topic and continue in the two other topics specially opened the one for "suggestions and comments" and the other for "errors and bugs" ? Because we become a little confused to read all the 3 topics for one program.

I agree.

[nurseman]

I'm a rookie at this... and sorry about my english!
I have found all kind of problems in the use of RB and i want to now if anybody as already try the DVD ReBuilder in a Episode DVD? like "The Sex & The City" or "Space 1999"

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by nurseman
I'm a rookie at this... and sorry about my english!
I have found all kind of problems in the use of RB and i want to now if anybody as already try the DVD ReBuilder in a Episode DVD? like "The Sex & The City" or "Space 1999" It should work fine with episodic DVDs. What kind of problems are you experiencing? I've found that many of the problems are associated with incorrect installation. You may want to read the setup instructions on this post/page. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73051&postid=465822)

[kilg0r3]

@ jdopps
Hi,
I know, with this post, I definitely run the risk of getting bashed by all people who have already read the other similar posts in the New AV-Formats Codec forum. But anyway ...

For DVD2SVCD there is the famous RoBa plugin which dramatically reduces encoding time with CCE because instead of doing one or even multiple analysis passes, it just analyzes (well sort off) 2% of the movie about 5 times an then starts a full encode at a fixed quality setting. This prediction method is of course not as accurate as the 'original' but up to now I have never seen under/oversizings larger than 4%, and, the good thing is that you can specify how to handle oversizing. RoBa can either do a full second pass or, if the size deviation is not larger than a specified percentage it uses the included requantizer to reduce the filesize.
The full description (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64886) is in the DVD2SVCD Basics section.

IMveryHO, it looks like it would not be too difficult to implement this kind of functionality because the plugin is already cce based, and, wouldn't it be cool to finish a 120min DVD in ab out the same time?

Cheers, kilg0r3

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by kilg0r3
@ jdopps
Hi,
I know, with this post, I definitely run the risk of getting bashed by all people who have already read the other similar posts in the New AV-Formats Codec forum. But anyway ...

For DVD2SVCD there is the famous RoBa plugin which dramatically reduces encoding time with CCE because instead of doing one or even multiple analysis passes, it just analyzes (well sort off) 2% of the movie about 5 times an then starts a full encode at a fixed quality setting. This prediction method is of course not as accurate as the 'original' but up to now I have never seen under/oversizings larger than 4%, and, the good thing is that you can specify how to handle oversizing. RoBa can either do a full second pass or, if the size deviation is not larger than a specified percentage it uses the included requantizer to reduce the filesize.
The full description (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64886) is in the DVD2SVCD Basics section.

IMveryHO, it looks like it would not be too difficult to implement this kind of functionality because the plugin is already cce based, and, wouldn't it be cool to finish a 120min DVD in ab out the same time?

Cheers, kilg0r3 I'm familiar with RoBa. I also stand a possible thrashing if I even voice an opinion about the RoBa method that is contrary to Dogma. But in my very humble opinion (please be gentle with me, those of you who worship at this alter) -- you can't get the same level of quality from single pass encoding because it defies the laws of physics.

Don't get me wrong -- you can get OUTSTANDING results, and in many instances where the bandwidth is enough you won't be able to tell the difference between RoBa and 2 Pass encoding... but when the going gets tough and bits are at a premium (which is often the case with full-DVD recompression) you really need to spread the available bits across a large VBR consideration area.

A single pass VBR encoder must make its bitrate allocations based upon a small domain (could be a GOP, or some fixed buffer size -- I'm not sure what CCE uses). It then applies whatever rate it needs to reach a certain quality level within that domain. In RoBa, all you are doing in the first phase is trying to find out what Q must be used to get the size under control.

But -- for those who really want to speed up the process, I will put this on my wish list... you're right that it wouldn't be that hard.

[kilg0r3]

Thank you.

[paulers]

I tried the rejig feature in .25 and as its processing the files I get the Microsoft Windows error dialog asking me if I wish to send them my error details. if I click "no" dvdrb continues to the next file untill eventually I get an error about subscript out of range or something like that. Is anyone else havine issues like that?

[Mad_Max_73]

Hi Jdobbs...
Don't u think....to remove pixelation between chapters u must encode the stream in one step???
I think is better encode with CCE using chapters points and multiplex the wole thing...:confused:

[nurseman]

Originally posted by jdobbs
It should work fine with episodic DVDs. What kind of problems are you experiencing? I've found that many of the problems are associated with incorrect installation. You may want to read the setup instructions on this post/page. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73051&postid=465822)

i will try the guides posted by you and them i say something about...
at this moment the enconde just don't... encode. The CCE run in a few seconds and start de rebuilder fase (III) without de episodes

[nurseman]

Now what...?
I do by the book and nothing... or worst
I get a runtime error 9 just at the start in the demux

[JvD]

Not a new problem. Jdobbs is working on it. Read about it in previous posts (the bug thread). What movie is it?

PS. Its called rebuild with this sweet little app ;-) DS.

[djan]

Originally posted by nurseman
Now what...?
I do by the book and nothing... or worst
I get a runtime error 9 just at the start in the demux Did you try another DVD ?

[nurseman]

I devote my time to episodes DVD.
I'm working on The Sex & The City Seson 2

Thanks for all the help... Rebuild OK

[CiViC]

Originally posted by Mad_Max_73
Hi Jdobbs...
Don't u think....to remove pixelation between chapters u must encode the stream in one step???
I think is better encode with CCE using chapters points and multiplex the wole thing...:confused:

yeah but it wouldn't be able to handle hybrid dvd's without ivtc then, would it..?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Mad_Max_73
Hi Jdobbs...
Don't u think....to remove pixelation between chapters u must encode the stream in one step???
I think is better encode with CCE using chapters points and multiplex the wole thing...:confused: ???? I don't think I get the connection between pixelation and a whole encode... But, no. There are many reasons why I shouldn't do that -- one of which is that fact that CCE Basic (which is the cheap legal CCE solution) doesn't have a chapter capability.

[r6d2]

@jdobbs,

Not giving up yet. Now trying the same movie with v0.26, three click method.

I have the ECL open with CCE now. I see the BR is always the same. Is there a simple way to have the main movie encoded at higher BR and all the extras encoded at Half-D1?

If not, does it make sense as a useful feature?

[jdobbs]

That'll have to come later. First I need to get rid of all '9' errors, and then enable stills and interleaving (seamless branching and multiple angles).

[casonbang]

I've been trying to backup Baraka (simple DVD with 1 extra) since version .16 but the finished product would always have problems loading the disc or skipping chapters.

Finally with version .26 it works!! It looks like all the issues with chapters have been resolved and the DVD works in all my players.

I'm looking forward to interleaving and encoding extras at a lower bitrate. Thanks for making this high-quality backup method available to those of us without the time for the Big 3!

[unplugged]

Just a little question... what are the cons of Rejig's "minimize disc space requirements" ?
as it's not checked by default.
thanks

[influenza]

I'm familiar with RoBa. I also stand a possible thrashing if I even voice an opinion about the RoBa method that is contrary to Dogma. But in my very humble opinion (please be gentle with me, those of you who worship at this alter) -- you can't get the same level of quality from single pass encoding because it defies the laws of physics.

Hmm if you use the big 3 method you can choose between either roba or multipass vbr. If you choose ROBA it doesn't mean that a single pass encoding is done. Difference is between the first pass that is done: 1 pass VBR against 1 pass constant bitrate I believe. After that some other passes will follow based on the number you've set.

So maybe there's some confusion about the term roba here?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by unplugged
Just a little question... what are the cons of Rejig's "minimize disc space requirements" ?
as it's not checked by default.
thanks Normally DVD-RB demuxes the cells into .MPV files and then uses ReJig on each for reduction -- creating a .M2V file (which is then used in the REBUILD). In "Minimize disc space requirements" the .MPV is deleted immediately after running ReJig. The plus is that you don't need as much available space -- the con is that you can't run ENCODE a second time (the files are gone).

[Mad_Max_73]

ok...anyway...
I've done a backup of Being john malkovich yesterday and it played fine with ritek g4 on my standalone player...
I've noticed pixelation beetwen chapters only on my xbox using ricoh 4x +rw written a full speed, so i think is a read problem...
Will do some more test...
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