CCE One-Click Software Beta

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by NobbyNobbs
@jdobbs

This tread have gotten so big, it is hard to follow.

As you also are a mod on this forum, I suggest that you close it, and open one tread, where people can post bug reports ( with instructions for what they should include for you to trace the possible bug).

You could also have another tread, for general discussions about DVD Rebuilder, as I guess that reports on things that work as it is supposed also can be helpful (and comforting?):D :D That's a really good idea.

All: for further bug reports and discussion please post here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73050).

For general discussions, comments, and suggestions please post here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73051).

I've decided not to close it, though, until some of the discussions are finished. Hopefully the other threads will pick up and this will move down the page on its own.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by hypo20
Still don't have audio output in my SONY standalone DVD player.

On PC everything works fine. Fast FWD and Fast RWD is working good.

Has anyone this problem???? Or know anyone a solution??? That's odd. Are you using analog connectors or coming from a digital audio output? Have you tried selecting other audio tracks to see if they have any output?

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Are you NTSC or PAL?

NTSC

[jdobbs]

@DMagic1,

Damn. I'm also NTSC and can't get it to repeat this - I was hoping it was something simple like a computation issue with PAL when figuring out the contents of the Data Search Informatin (DSI) packet.

In the DSI, which is in the NAVPACK there are SRIs that point to VOBUs in a forward and backward direction. If your FF and RW aren't working properly it would tend to indicate that this table is populated incorrectly. Unfortunately this table isn't enumerated by VOBEdit (except in Hex mode) making it difficult to review it. It makes it even worse when the FF and REW work fine for the discs I've tried (at 1.5x, 5x, and 20x on my standalone(s) and also using PowerDVD)

I'll go back over the code that fills the table and see if there are any anomalies...

@All,

Are there others who are experiencing problems with FF and RW?

[quantum]

After redoing Matchstick Men, I don't see any difference on direct positioning in Zoom Player. I click about 1/4 of the way into the movie and it jumps to either 2/3 or locks up. Hitting FF exits the movie. This is how I test to confirm navigation works. I don't think PowerDVD is a good test because I think it has work-around code built in to deal with worst case DVD's.

[jdobbs]

That means it probably wasn't the TMAPTI that was the source of the problem. Too bad, that was a lot of work. Of course it had to be done anyway.

[geffroman]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That's a really good idea.

All: for further bug reports and discussion please post here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73050).

For general discussions, comments, and suggestions please post here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73051).

I've decided not to close it, though, until some of the discussions are finished. Hopefully the other threads will pick up and this will move down the page on its own.

In about one day your post with those two links will be lost in the thread... Should really close this thread with that information at the beginning an end of thread directing folks to the proper thread. Just my humble opinion

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That means it probably wasn't the TMAPTI that was the source of the problem. Too bad, that was a lot of work. Of course it had to be done anyway. Are you sure? The results seem the same as when I do my own projects and do ifoupdate without the transfer TMAPTI option enabled. Is there any way there could be problematic TMAPTI's with your new code? Maybe I should try another disk.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
Are you sure? The results seem the same as when I do my own projects and do ifoupdate without the transfer TMAPTI option enabled. Is there any way there could be problematic TMAPTI's with your new code? Maybe I should try another disk. I'll go back and go through the table creation with a fine tooth comb... what makes it so difficult is that I can't repeat it. I have 3 standalones and they all have been able to FF and RW on all the discs I've done.

Early in my development I had a problem similar to the FF and RW portion and it turned out to be an error in how I was creating/populating the DSI's SRI tables. But when I fixed the bug it went away for good (at least for me).

There's obviously something wrong and I have to find it.

[KungFuCow]

I own one of the same players the other guy does who's having problems. I'll burn one of the DVDs Ive been experimenting with and try it and see if I also have the same problems.

[DMagic1]

@jdobbs

Did you try fforwarding with Nero Showtime? As one person said, it also has a problem with fforwarding. It seems as if what ever is causing this on some dvd players is also causing problems with Nero Showtime and my IFOEdit DVD player.

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
[B]what makes it so difficult is that I can't repeat it.Have you tried using the feature on your standalone where you enter a specific time and it jumps to it? Try to jump to 1:15:00 into a movie. I think every standalone has this capability but it's sometimes not obvious how to do it.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by quantum
Have you tried using the feature on your standalone where you enter a specific time and it jumps to it? Try to jump to 1:15:00 into a movie. I think every standalone has this capability but it's sometimes not obvious how to do it.

Hes right. Even the Toshiba, which has no problem fforwarding with the output, will freezes if I put in a time to jump to.

[KungFuCow]

Tried out Lost In Translation on a Lite On LVD 2001 and an Xbox. Playback was incorrect on both. The movie starts out with a trailer you can FFWD though. On the Liteon, FFWDing worked okay however if you stopped FFing anywhere, even in the main movie, it dumped you back to the opening trailer screen.

The Xbox locked up if you attempted to FFWD the movie.

Movie played fine in Power DVD however.

[robot1]

Originally posted by hypo20
Still don't have audio output in my SONY standalone DVD player.

On PC everything works fine. Fast FWD and Fast RWD is working good.

Has anyone this problem???? Or know anyone a solution???

I have the same problem. My standalone player is a Pioneer DV-360.
The disk (PAL) had 4 audio track, and I selected 1st and 4th.
Now i'm backing up another disk to check again (and this time I'll burn on a RW...)

[hypo20]

@robot1

I tested 3 discs. Also PAL. First, I have checked only some audio streams, but then I was doing FULL backup (everything, all audio, all extra, all subs) and it was the same.

@jdobbs
Can you look at it???

[oCe]

Well, I'm not posting much here, more reading for years now, but this program is worth a post!

Ok, tested version 0.18 on Basic, PAL-edition. Kept everything, so the dvd includes DTS, Dolby Digital 5.1 and 2.0 tracks. Converting goes smooth, no problems what so ever. Then, tried to burn it with Nero (v6.3.1.6) and got this message:

21.3.2004
UDF/ISO compilation
14:12:50 #1 DVDREALLOC 5 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 965
Backup file 'VTS_01_0.BUP' should be identical to 'VTS_01_0.IFO'

14:12:50 #2 DVDREALLOC 5 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 965
Backup file 'VTS_02_0.BUP' should be identical to 'VTS_02_0.IFO'

14:12:50 #3 DVDREALLOC 5 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 965
Backup file 'VTS_03_0.BUP' should be identical to 'VTS_03_0.IFO'

14:12:50 #4 DVDREALLOC 5 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 965
Backup file 'VTS_04_0.BUP' should be identical to 'VTS_04_0.IFO'

14:12:50 #5 DVDREALLOC 5 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 965
Backup file 'VTS_05_0.BUP' should be identical to 'VTS_05_0.IFO'

14:12:50 #6 DVDREALLOC 5 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 965
Backup file 'VTS_06_0.BUP' should be identical to 'VTS_06_0.IFO'

14:12:50 #7 Phase 117 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
DVD-Video files compliance test failed


Decided to burn the dvd anyway, on a +RW that is, to be safe. The result: no audio at all on my Pioneer DV-360 standalone, all audio on my Philips 625-standalone. No audio problems on pc with PowerDVD. For the record; original plays fine. Copies made with Nero Recode aswell.

On the Pioneer DV-360 the player says 'STOP' after the first title (animated movie-studio logo), Philips plays fine. Other problem, there are two 'trailers' on the disc, one of another movie, one of the Dolby Digital-logo; both are interlaced. The movie itself is progressive. Result: trailers are 'jumping around' like crazy, any way to scan an mpeg if it's progressive or interlaced to encode accordingly?

So it seems there are some problems left to remain fixed, but that's not crazy considering it's only version 0.19 by now. So far I'm impressed, good work!

[jdobbs]

Damn it! I knew about this -- even know what was wrong and forgot to fix it. I'll have it fixed shortly.

[tf]

I get those errors all the time - the one about bup not being identical to ifo. Disc works 100% anyway, so it might be something else?

-tf

[jdobbs]

@oCe

The newest version is 0.21 and it fixes this. It also fixes some other problems that you may be seeing with navigation. You can get it by going to the link on the first post of this thread.

[Raymongo]

Version 0.20 and 0.21 will not let me encode with cce anymore. cce opens and thats all whats hapening. no error but in order to close i have to use CTRL+ALT+DEL. And than when it's clossed an error pops up saying.

Run-time error '55':
File already open

I tried this on Disney's Dumbo. Going to try an other now and see if can reproduce it.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Raymongo
Version 0.20 and 0.21 will not let me encode with cce anymore. cce opens and thats all whats hapening. no error but in order to close i have to use CTRL+ALT+DEL. And than when it's clossed an error pops up saying.

Run-time error '55':
File already open

I tried this on Disney's Dumbo. Going to try an other now and see if can reproduce it. I'm going back to check. Hope I didn't do something stupid...

[quantum]

@jdobbs
Just rebuilt Matchstick Men. Took your advice to not re-encode the whole thing which saved several hours. Upon opening in Zoom Player, the navigational features are working 100% :) Jumping to a specific spot works, and ff and rw work without exiting the movie. Nice work. Now on to the next problem :D

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Raymongo
Version 0.20 and 0.21 will not let me encode with cce anymore. cce opens and thats all whats hapening. no error but in order to close i have to use CTRL+ALT+DEL. And than when it's clossed an error pops up saying.

Run-time error '55':
File already open

I tried this on Disney's Dumbo. Going to try an other now and see if can reproduce it. It is running as I type this and appears to be working fine with CCE Basic 2.67. Next I will try eclCCE... but there were no changes to that section of the code in .20 or .21 so I'm hesitant to think it could be related to anything new -- has your configuration changed in any way?

[influenza]

Hi Jdobbs,

asked this before (like a thousand pages back :D ) but wil dvd-Rb transfer button command if they exist within a vobset (like with button over video)?

[jdobbs]

Not yet. It keeps the video, and it keeps the subpicture information, but I haven't implemented the code to keep the Presentation Control Information (PCI) packet information yet. I was looking at possibly doing that when I fixed the "stills" code. I delayed some of the "not-so-common" capabilities so I could get the beta out and tested.

[influenza]

Ah ok, but it is planned :). This is also used a lot for gmes etc, that you find on disney dvds.

What about cell commands are those preserved at the moment?

[oCe]

Originally posted by jdobbs
@oCe

The newest version is 0.21 and it fixes this. It also fixes some other problems that you may be seeing with navigation. You can get it by going to the link on the first post of this thread.

ok, trying 0.21 on Basic now, will post results!

[Raymongo]

i dont know what caused the problem but i tried The Perfect Storm and it went ok. than i thought lets start the whole process over again for Disney's Dumbo. I first decrypted then processed and then tried to encode and this time all went ok.:confused: I did this with version 0.21 .

[Kakashi Sensei]

Hey guys I have waited Five Days to post on the forums, LOL what a wait.

I have a program that Hides CCE durning encoding so it doesn't pop up. A friend wrote it and it works really well. I had the problem of accidently telling CCE to shut down after encode. PM me if you want it or I'll send it to Jdobbs to post as an attachment its only lik 28Kb.

My results so far. I used V 0.18 encoded Angel S1 D4 and it looks pretty good/ the video does skip from time to time. But looks alot better then And Transcoder.

Last thing, If you have the full version of CCE do you need to use eclCCE?? And if you dont does CCE pop up every 20 - 30 seconds??

Thanks alot for the great work and keep those beta's coming

Sensei

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Kakashi Sensei
Hey guys I have waited Five Days to post on the forums, LOL what a wait.

I have a program that Hides CCE durning encoding so it doesn't pop up. A friend wrote it and it works really well. I had the problem of accidently telling CCE to shut down after encode. PM me if you want it or I'll send it to Jdobbs to post as an attachment its only lik 28Kb.

My results so far. I used V 0.18 encoded Angel S1 D4 and it looks pretty good/ the video does skip from time to time. But looks alot better then And Transcoder.

Last thing, If you have the full version of CCE do you need to use eclCCE?? And if you dont does CCE pop up every 20 - 30 seconds??

Thanks alot for the great work and keep those beta's coming

Sensei If you have a newer full version you don't need to use eclCCE. DVD-RB uses the command-line parameters that are supported in later version, but are only supported through eclCCE in earlier ones (e.g. v2.50).

The entire CCE window doesn't pop up (it is minimized), but the encoding status window does.

[Longevity]

I tried to test it but the same error appears as with ifoupdate.

Overflow Error 6

This is a region 3 Bad Boys II that I am trying to back up. I get this error the moment I select to Video_TS directory.

This would be an AWESOME program for all of us. Thanks Jdobb.

[oCe]

@jdobbs:

Well, tested your new version 0.21: same results. Nero burns the dvd fine now though, no more errors in the .bup-files. Problems that remain:

* my Pioneer DV-360 plays the first title, then displays 'STOP', no other titles can't be played. Manual skip (during that 1st title, which is the movie-company's logo) to the 2nd title or menu has no effect.
* on my Pioneer DV-360 no sound at all, just like I read about the DV-430 somewhere in this topic from another user. (the DV-360 and DV-430 are basicly the same)
* on my Philips DVD-625 no problems with playback, all audio channels (dolby digital 5.1 and 2.0 and dts) work without problems. Audio & video are sync, image quality is good (4 pass, CCE 2.67) only interlaced parts (some titles) are totally screwed up. Anyway to indicate or analyze chapters for interlaced mpeg's?

[Pedro Gouveia]

If u try to play the authored VOBS in Media Player Classic the audio don't work either. Maybe something wrong in the navigation packs??

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
If u try to play the authored VOBS in Media Player Classic the audio don't work either. Maybe something wrong in the navigation packs?? Could be. I'm looking into that right now.

[DMagic1]

As a temporary fix, I found that running the output movie thru Shrink fixes the chapter point skipping video problems and may fix sound problem for others.

Shrink usually wouldn't accept the movie. It would say failed to open VTS_01_6.VOB, where VTS_01_5.VOB was the last VOB in the movie.

I got around this by adding a blank VOB named to the name Shrink was requesting. This blank VOB seems to need 6 vob_ids in it or more. At least for my movie it did. Any less and Shrink would ask for VTS_01_7.VOB.

Once the blank VOB was added Shrink accepted the movie and I set everything for no compression. The final result didnt have the fake VOB that I added at all.

I didn't know if everyone knew this or not but I thought I'd share the info. As I said this is just a temp solution. I hope that jdobbs bangs out the rest of the bugs soon.

[smlong426]

I'm using Rebuilder .19 and CCE 2.50/EclCCE. I have so far tried this combination of software with about 8 movies. All work flawlessly with PowerDVD 5.0 as well as my two DVD players (Cyberhome CH-DVD 500 and Zenith XBV342 DVD/VCR combo). I did get errors with other versions of CCE (like with 2.66, encoding would work fine, but Rebuild would fail).

So far, the software is working flawlessly. I will have to try out some other stand alone DVD players, but, like I said, everything I have tested so far works perfectly (fast forward/rewind, chapter points, menus, subtitles) with the two players that I have.

Thanks for this proggie, jdobbs.

[redfive19]

@jdobbs

I've set the Film Threshold to 50% and it looks better but there is still evidence of a shaky picture especially in fast camera movements. Any ideas? (BTW, this is on Buena Vista Social Club) The picture looks amazing just jumpy frames. I am grateful for this app!!

BTW, using CCE 2.67.00.23 with ECLCCE 1.7b and RB v.21

-redfive

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by redfive19
@jdobbs

I've set the Film Threshold to 50% and it looks better but there is still evidence of a shaky picture especially in fast camera movements. Any ideas? (BTW, this is on Buena Vista Social Club) The picture looks amazing just jumpy frames. I am grateful for this app!!

BTW, using CCE 2.67.00.23 with ECLCCE 1.7b and RB v.21

-redfive Did you try going in the other direction -- say 90%?

[redfive19]

Nope will do that tonite and post the results tommorow. BTW, what exactly does this film threshold do?

[jdobbs]

When scanning the original stream DVD-RB looks at each frame and determines whether it is presented as full speed (29.97 frames per second) or telecined -- meaning it is stored at 23.976 frames per second with a flag saying to repeat a field at certain intervals to bring the total speed up to 29.97.

Often (for example a movie that is FILM based) you will find sources that are 100% telecined, but occasionally you get one that is a mixture. In that case you have to determine whether to treat the entire stream as telecined or straight NTSC. The threshold sets a point at which the decision is made one way or the other. If you set it to 70% then it will assume telecined if at least 70% of the source is telecined...

[quantum]

I thought you split the video when it changed from telicide to interlaced. If not, I think we need the option to use CCE's pulldown feature on anything that is questionable.

[djan]

Hi jdobbs,

You implemented the VBR_Bias and Quality_Prec but can you a give a small explanation of the use of these parameters please ? Because I don't understand for what use it is and I would like to use them if I can make a better output. Thx.

[redfive19]

@jdobbs
Well I tried again on Buena Vista Social Club this time turning the threshold to 90% and it's even worse then before (jumpy picture). I am out of ideas! I donated to your app last night because I think it's the future of backups with CCE.

-redfive

[Paced]

Originally posted by redfive19
@jdobbs
Well I tried again on Buena Vista Social Club this time turning the threshold to 90% and it's even worse then before (jumpy picture). I am out of ideas! I donated to your app last night because I think it's the future of backups with CCE.

-redfive

Just out of curiocity, is the DVD interlaced? If so, this may be a wrong field order issue - I'm just pulling at straws here.

[redfive19]

Yes the DVD is interlaced.

[quantum]

My first guess is TFF / BFF is not being correctly set. I don't know if it's even attempted to be detected and set. It will be an important matter but I think jdobbs has some more pressing matters to deal with first.

[Paced]

Originally posted by quantum
My first guess is TFF / BFF is not being correctly set. I don't know if it's even attempted to be detected and set. It will be an important matter but I think jdobbs has some more pressing matters to deal with first.

Agreed.

@redfive19

Try running DVD-RB in 'three-click' mode, and once you've finished preparing the DVD, open the resulting .ECL with notepad, and try changing all instances of "offset_line" (I think that's the parameter) to the opposite of what it is now, i.e. 0 --> 1. Once you've finished editing, save the file, and continue with encoding/rebuilding.

[rayvt]

Useing DVD-RB 0.19 & 21, at the end, it says "invalid VIDEO_TS.IFO", and errors off. I've tried both rejig and QuEnc, and get the same problem. With rejig, I could open the movie (with WinDVD), but the sound was seriously out of sync).

[redfive19]

I don't see anything by that name. Here's a copy from the ECL for the first file to be encoded:


[item]
title=V01000000001001
aud_out=0
vaf_file=Z:\BURN\DVDREBUILD\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.vaf
aud_file=Z:\BURN\DVDREBUILD\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.mpa
file_focused=0
packet_size=2048
width=720
height=480
frame_rate_idx=4
cbr_brate=6000
vbr_brate_avg=4079
vbr_brate_min=0
vbr_brate_max=9000
seq_endcode=1
dvd=0
half_width=0
half_height=0
lum_level=0
aspect_ratio=3
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
samples_per_sec=44100
stereo=2
brate_idx=7
crc=1
progressive=0
alternate_scan=1
intra_dc_prec=2
aud_mode=0
tc_ref_frm=0
drop_frame=0
fix_vbv_delay=0
letter_box=0
pulldown_detect=0
create_new_vaf=1
credits_tweak=0
credits_start=0x00000
credits_brate=1000
h_filter=0
h_filter_idx=8
dither=0
dither_max=8
qmat_idx=0
vid_file0=Z:\BURN\DVDREBUILD\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.m2v
vid_file1=Z:\BURN\DVDREBUILD\D2VAVS\V01000000001001.m2v
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
video_type=4
timecode=0x0000000
opv_q_factor=20
opv_brate_min=0
opv_brate_max=9000
vbr_bias=10
vbr_pass=4
use_filter=0
filter_val=6
quality_prec=25
non_linear=1
top_first=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1