YAMB 1.6 is out

[SeeMoreDigital]

Has anybody had any success muxing x264.avi video streams into .MP4 with YAMB?


Cheers

[bond]

mp4box cant mux avc from any container, except .mp4 and of course raw avc streams

[Koti]

I have by extracting x264 from avi with yamb and muxing raw - no issue at all with audio synch either :)

so yes and no - just need that xtra step

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Koti
I have by extracting x264 from avi with yamb and muxing raw - no issue at all with audio synch either :)

so yes and no - just need that xtra step When I tried using YAMB to extract the RAW video stream from a "video only" encode... it would not work :eek:

However, I was able to use YAMB to extract the video element from an x264 .AVI with .mp3 audio... but only after I extracted the audio stream first!

Can anybody else confirm?


Cheers

[bond]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Can anybody else confirm? no :p

[Koti]

thats what I extracted from - x264 fresh out of vdubmod - no audio.
I did have to after ticking extract video , reselect video in the drop down to make the cli proper ( it doesnt write the proper cli till video is re selected even tho highlighted )

[kaabob]

Wow, Thanks Kurtnoise13 for such an awesome program!

This sure beats using the command-line... at least for a noob and lazy person like me.

This is also a lot better than what i've tried before: graphedit+Nero dlls... ugh...

By the way, what AAC audio profile do you guys prefer when backing up DVDs (for both 1CD and 2CD versions)? Right now I'm using 2-channel LC-AAC for 1CD versions of movies, but trying to use 5.1-channel LC-AAC for 1CD versions takes up a lotta space, forcing me to encode at a lower resolution... (btw im still using XviD... im waiting for H.264 to develop further before switching)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Thanks Koti, I've got that worked out now...

It's very useful keeping the "command line" box open at all times (as bond suggested). At least this way we can see what YAMB is up to ;)

Now given that x264 does not yet offer PAR or DAR signalling (in the vfw compile), I wonder whether it would be possible to integrate that little AVC AR changing tool (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=86870) hhanh developed a while back?


Cheers


EDITED: x264 VFW info

[bond]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Now given that x264 does not yet offer PAR or DAR signallingx264 supports this for a long time already

check the -sar option of the cli

[AlexeyS]

I still can't fix my problem. I've extracted video from my MP4 file to .h264 (encoded with Nero) and audio to .aac (encoded with BeSweet).

Now, I mux this file and get video without sound. ShoTime shows this:
http://www.callofdutyserver.net/!tempmov/nero.gif

And Yamb shows this info:
http://www.callofdutyserver.net/!tempmov/yamb.gif

Why I have this problem? :confused:

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by bond
x264 supports this for a long time already

check the -sar option of the cli I can't seem to find that option bond. Do I need a different version of x264?

http://img265.echo.cx/img265/8582/x2641za.gif


Originally posted by kaabob
By the way, what AAC audio profile do you guys prefer when backing up DVDs (for both 1CD and 2CD versions)? Right now I'm using 2-channel LC-AAC for 1CD versions of movies, but trying to use 5.1-channel LC-AAC for 1CD versions takes up a lotta space, forcing me to encode at a lower resolution...Not so long ago I created an 800MB 1CD encode of Terminator 3 and used Foobar2000 to generate an 6Ch AAC-HE using the following settings : -

http://img19.echo.cx/img19/1632/aache6nk.gif


Cheers

[bond]

Originally posted by AlexeyS
http://www.callofdutyserver.net/!tempmov/yamb.gifit seems that mp4box thinks that you are feeding it with a .mp4 file (isomedia) and not with a raw .264 one. you probably didnt extract the avc stream to raw correctly

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I can't seem to find that option bond. Do I need a different version of x264? ever seen anamorphic resize happening in vfw? x264vfw doesnt support setting the par

step into the next generation, leave outdated vfw and avi behind you and use x264cli with straight, nice direct .mp4 output and all features x264 offers ;)

[AlexeyS]

[B]it seems that mp4box thinks that you are feeding it with a .mp4 file (isomedia) and not with a raw .264 one. you probably didnt extract the avc stream to raw correctly
I've used YAMB to extract video. Is this possible to extract incorrect with YAMB?

Raw file is little smaller (4_459_547_509 bytes), than MP4 (4_461_498_162 bytes)...

[bond]

Originally posted by AlexeyS
I've used YAMB to extract video. Is this possible to extract incorrect with YAMB?

Raw file is little smaller (4_459_547_509 bytes), than MP4 (4_461_498_162 bytes)... describe step by step what you did, plz

make sure you used the latest compile of mp4box

[AlexeyS]

Originally posted by bond
describe step by step what you did, plz
make sure you used the latest compile of mp4box
Ok.

I make d2v project and demux AC3 audio and MPEG2 video.

Then I make AVS script to deinterlace the movie and open it with Nero. I encode it to HDTV AVC profile (without audio).

Then I encode AAC with BeSweet (Stereo).

Then I mux video and audio MP4s with YAMB and get this file... Same thing when I first extract RAW video and RAW audio and then mux.

PS: My MP4BOX was downloaded with latest YAMB 1.2.1 (YAMB+MP4BOX).

[Koti]

question - does the .aac audio track play ok on its own ?

Also there is a newer mp4box 17/05/2005 here (http://www.aziendeassociate.it/cd.asp?dir=/gpac/dev)
worth a try :)

Post the CLI's from your procedures of YAMB too if all else fails

[AlexeyS]

Originally posted by Koti
question - does the .aac audio track play ok on its own ?
Yes. It's play without any problems with any software.

Also there is a newer mp4box 17/05/2005 here (http://www.aziendeassociate.it/cd.asp?dir=/gpac/dev)
worth a try :)
Overwrited old one. YAMB do not create muxed MP4.

He starts:
[15:45:47] : Muxing started...
[15:45:47] : Importing & Writing streams...
And then progress bar repeats from 0% to 25% again and again. Looks like bug...

Post the CLI's from your procedures of YAMB too if all else fails
Here it is:
"C:\Program Files\YAMB\MP4Box.exe" -add "D:\Matrix\Encoded\matrix_track3.h264" -add "D:\Matrix\matrix-track1.aac" "D:\Matrix\Encoded\matrix_track3.mp4"

[Koti]

new mp4 box does do some repetative type looking partials in yamb progress bar.
let it go on it will mux :)

edit - counted resets (8) of progress bar while YAMB was on adjusting "AVC SizeLength to 24 bits" file turned out fine :)

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by AlexeyS
Then I encode AAC with BeSweet (Stereo).
:logfile:

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Now given that x264 does not yet offer PAR or DAR signalling, I wonder whether it would be possible to integrate that little AVC AR changing tool hhanh developed a while back?
Is there any GUI which can do that ?

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
It's very useful keeping the "command line" box open at all times (as bond suggested). At least this way we can see what YAMB is up to
The last v3 reminds options settings...


btw, I'll check out the pb with the progress bar...it's strange.

[AlexeyS]

Originally posted by Koti
new mp4 box does do some repetative type looking partials in yamb progress bar.
let it go on it will mux :)

edit - counted resets (8) of progress bar while YAMB was on adjusting "AVC SizeLength to 24 bits" file turned out fine :)
I've waited for a long time, but progress bar reapeats again and again. I think more than 50 times. :confused:

Here is BeSweet log file:

BeSweet v1.5b29 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.9 (b922) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using Shibatch.dll v0.24 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
Using bsn.dll v0.24 by DPeshev,Richard,E-Male,DSPguru (DSPguru.Doom9.org).

Logging start : 05/15/05 , 20:33:20.

E:\video\BeSweetGUIv0.7b4\BeSweet.exe -core( -input d:\Matrix\matrix-avs AC3 T01 2_0ch 384Kbps DELAY -464ms.ac3 -output d:\Matrix\matrix-maybe2.mp4 -logfilea E:\video\BeSweetGUIv0.7b4\BeSweet.log ) -azid( -c normal -g 0.95 -L -3db ) -bsn( -2ch -config ) -ota( -g max )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : d:\Matrix\matrix-avs AC3 T01 2_0ch 384Kbps DELAY -464ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: d:\Matrix\matrix.mp4
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:000] | Overall Track Gain: 12.663dB
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 2/0, Bitrate: 384kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround compatible
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: -0.446dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] +------ Shibatch -----
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] | Dest. Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:000] | Attenuation : 0.0db
[00:00:00:000] +-------- BSN --------
[00:00:00:000] | bitrate: vbr streaming
[00:00:00:000] | HE-aac high quality encoding
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[01:31:34:176] Stream error : Sync found after 1352 bytes
[02:09:40:448] Conversion Completed !
[00:25:06:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 05/15/05 , 20:58:26.

[bond]

AlexeyS, are your renaming .mp4 extensions to .aac and .h264?

try the commandline you posted in a real commandline .bat file with mp4box itself (without using yamb) to see whether its a problem caused by yamb or mp4box

upload small files (both aac and avc) which show your problem somewhere

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
Is there any GUI which can do that ? the tool smd mentioned is nice, but not really useable always:
it only allows editing of existing par, so when you have an avc stream not having a par set you cant use it

[Kurtnoise]

E:\video\BeSweetGUIv0.7b4\BeSweet.exe -core( -input d:\Matrix\matrix-avs AC3 T01 2_0ch 384Kbps DELAY -464ms.ac3 -output d:\Matrix\matrix-maybe2.mp4 -logfilea E:\video\BeSweetGUIv0.7b4\BeSweet.log ) -azid( -c normal -g 0.95 -L -3db ) -bsn( -2ch -config ) -ota( -g max )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : d:\Matrix\matrix-avs AC3 T01 2_0ch 384Kbps DELAY -464ms.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: d:\Matrix\matrix.mp4
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:000] | Overall Track Gain: 12.663dB
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 2/0, Bitrate: 384kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround compatible
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: -0.446dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] +------ Shibatch -----
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] | Dest. Sample-Rate: 44.1KHz
[00:00:00:000] | Attenuation : 0.0db
[00:00:00:000] +-------- BSN --------
[00:00:00:000] | bitrate: vbr streaming
[00:00:00:000] | HE-aac high quality encoding
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[01:31:34:176] Stream error : Sync found after 1352 bytes
[02:09:40:448] Conversion Completed !
[00:25:06:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 05/15/05 , 20:58:26.

Strange things in red...

First, rip & demux once again your ac3 file and try this cmdl :
E:\video\BeSweetGUIv0.7b4\BeSweet.exe -core( -input d:\Matrix\matrix-avs AC3 T01 2_0ch 384Kbps DELAY -464ms.ac3 -output matrix-avs AC3 T01 2_0ch 384Kbps DELAY -464ms.mp4 -logfilea E:\video\BeSweetGUIv0.7b4\BeSweet.log ) -azid( -c normal -L -3db ) -bsn( -2ch ) -ota( -d -464 -g max )

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
Is there any GUI which can do that ? Sadly, not that I know of....

As far as I'm aware hhanh's "AVC AR changing tool" never made it past the CLI stage... and into the "big GUI world" (that's a poke in bond's side... if he's biting) ;)

It might be kina cool to have it YAMB though.


Cheers

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by bond
the tool smd mentioned is nice, but not really useable always:
it only allows editing of existing par, so when you have an avc stream not having a par set you cant use it
So, wait & see isn't it ?...


It could be interesting if --h add this feature directly in mp4box.

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
However, I was able to use YAMB to extract the video element from an x264 .AVI with .mp3 audio... but only after I extracted the audio stream first!

Can anybody else confirm?
works fine here...I can extract either Video or Audio stream. At least with my last version. :p

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
works fine here...I can extract either Video or Audio stream. At least with my last version. :p Yes it does work..

However, I did not realise that after you first "input" a .AVI file and put a tick in the "Extract" check box, it does not automatically add the required "command line" text: -

http://img283.echo.cx/img283/2640/019ym.gif


...at least not until you select the required track "manually"... then all is well: -

http://img280.echo.cx/img280/2096/022ag.gif


Cheers

[Kurtnoise]

Yep...it's fixed. That's why I said "with my last version"...:)

[SeeMoreDigital]

I think I must be going nuts...

I don't seem to be able to obtain working streams when de-muxing from Mpeg4/SP/ASP+AAC streams now!

Plus, if I select "View Extra Info when P4Box is running" I get this message: -

http://img280.echo.cx/img280/5162/mpeg4aspdemuxtest3qp.gif


Cheers

[Hobojobo]

@Kurtnoise13

Which one is the lastet build?

The link in your first post still referes to Version 1.21.
MP4BOX.exe, which comes with your installer version is from 19 April 05.

The latest version of MP4Box.exe is from 17 May 05
Don't know, whether that is a problem.

Just a thought.


I consider to use the mp4 container from now on instead of the "good" old avi container, because of your GUI.:D

I think many people will.

[AlexeyS]

First, rip & demux once again your ac3 file and try this cmdl : [/B]
Done, but it seems in English audio track still some error. I've ripped Russian audio track and still have same error when muxing with YAMB/MP4BOX. It's log:

BeSweet v1.5b29 by DSPguru.
--------------------------
Using azid.dll v1.9 (b922) by Midas (midas@egon.gyaloglo.hu).
Using Shibatch.dll v0.24 by Naoki Shibata & DSPguru (shibatch.sourceforge.net).
Using bsn.dll v0.24 by DPeshev,Richard,E-Male,DSPguru (DSPguru.Doom9.org).

Logging start : 05/20/05 , 05:39:52.

BeSweet.exe -core( -input D:\Matrix\2dorogki\dorogka\matrix-rus-audio.ac3 -output D:\Matrix\2dorogki\dorogka\matrix-rus-audio-belight.mp4 -logfile D:\Matrix\2dorogki\dorogka\matrix-rus-audio.log ) -azid( -s dplii -c normal -L -3db ) -bsn( -2ch -vbr_extreme -codecquality_high -aacprofile_he )

[00:00:00:000] +------- BeSweet -----
[00:00:00:000] | Input : D:\Matrix\2dorogki\dorogka\matrix-rus-audio.ac3
[00:00:00:000] | Output: D:\Matrix\2dorogki\dorogka\matrix-rus-audio-belight.mp4
[00:00:00:000] | Floating-Point Process: No
[00:00:00:000] +-------- AZID -------
[00:00:00:000] | Input Channels Mode: 3/2, Bitrate: 384kbps
[00:00:00:000] | Output Stereo mode: Dolby surround 2 compatible
[00:00:00:000] | Total Gain: 0.000dB, Compression: Normal
[00:00:00:000] | LFE levels: To LR -3.0dB, To LFE 0.0dB
[00:00:00:000] | Center mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Surround mix level: BSI
[00:00:00:000] | Dialog normalization: No
[00:00:00:000] | Rear channels filtering: No
[00:00:00:000] | Source Sample-Rate: 48.0KHz
[00:00:00:000] +-------- BSN --------
[00:00:00:000] | bitrate: vbr extreme
[00:00:00:000] | HE-aac high quality encoding
[00:00:00:000] +---------------------
[02:07:43:520] Conversion Completed !
[00:15:02:000] <-- Transcoding Duration

Logging ends : 05/20/05 , 05:54:54.

[Kurtnoise]

@SMD & AlexeyS: could you upload somewhere a sample ? I'll check them. Thanks...


Originally posted by Hobojobo
@Kurtnoise13

Which one is the lastet build?

The link in your first post still referes to Version 1.21.
MP4BOX.exe, which comes with your installer version is from 19 April 05.

The latest version of MP4Box.exe is from 17 May 05
Don't know, whether that is a problem.
:D You're totally right...When I said "last version", I'm refering to my last build which is on my computer. Sorry...I'll try to release a new one tonight or next week because I won't be at home this weekend.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
@SMD & AlexeyS: could you upload somewhere a sample ? I'll check them. Thanks.. Here's a sample (http://82.2.167.237/Uploaded_Files/Doom9_Forum_files/Mpeg4-ASP_De-mux_Test.zip) from me.


Cheers

[AlexeyS]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
[B]@SMD & AlexeyS: could you upload somewhere a sample ? I'll check them. Thanks...
I've just made little sample (few seconds) and it works fine (muxed with YAMB).

My whole movie is 4.25 Gb. :(

[AlexeyS]

Originally posted by bond
[B]AlexeyS, are your renaming .mp4 extensions to .aac and .h264?
No, I extract streams with YAMB.

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Here's a sample (http://82.2.167.237/Uploaded_Files/Doom9_Forum_files/Mpeg4-ASP_De-mux_Test.zip) from me.
works fine here...for Audio & Video stream :o

http://kurtnoise.free.fr/extract_audio.gif

So, try with my last build (http://kurtnoise.free.fr/Yamb_20050520.zip).

Maybe you are confused with trackID...It's 201 & 101.
http://kurtnoise.free.fr/trackid.gif

Does it mean that you need that I tune this part ?? But huhh. :rolleyes:

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by AlexeyS
I've just made little sample (few seconds) and it works fine (muxed with YAMB).

My whole movie is 4.25 Gb. :(
So, the problem is outwhere...:eek: but I've no idea for the moment.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
works fine here...for Audio & Video stream :o

http://kurtnoise.free.fr/extract_audio.gif

So, try with my last build (http://kurtnoise.free.fr/Yamb_20050520.zip).

Maybe you are confused with trackID...It's 201 & 101.
http://kurtnoise.free.fr/trackid.gif

Does it mean that you need that I tune this part ?? But huhh. :rolleyes: In your "top image" in the command line box, it says "-raw 101" But in my command line box it says "-raw 1" :eek:

And yes if I manually write -raw 101, -raw 201, etc I obtain the correct de-muxed streams!

May I suggest the following slight alteration to the GUI: -

http://img266.echo.cx/img266/175/yambguiproposal6al.png


Also, I've downloaded your latest version but it's identified as being YAMB 1.xx and not YAMB 1.3 - as shown in your top image.


Cheers

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
In your "top image" in the command line box, it says "-raw 101" But in my command line box it says "-raw 1" :eek:
moooOoo...you must enter manually the right trackID in the white box. (ie replace the 1 by 201 or 101 in your case). This is not an automatic task. !!!

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Also, I've downloaded your latest version but it's identified as being YAMB 1.xx and not YAMB 1.3 - as shown in your top image.
yeah ...so what ? this build is not finalized and not official, that's why I decided to name it 1.xx.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
moooOoo...you must enter manually the right trackID in the white box. (ie replace the 1 by 201 or 101 in your case). This is not an automatic task. !!! So like I mentioned... how about using the expression... "Extract TrackID", instead of "Extract Track"... to avoid any confusion?


Cheers

[Koti]

Possible feature request

Track naming , would it be possible to create this feature similar to the way mmg does this ?

6 audio or ttxt's all named "gpac streaming audio/text handler [undetermined]" get confusing :D

or does anyone have a 100% non insane way of doing this ( hex editor and dumpster are currently the only way I know of )

thx again :)

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
So like I mentioned... how about using the expression... "Rename TrackID", instead of "Rename Track"... to avoid any confusion?
Rename ? Extract rather, no ?

There are already some hints when you move the mouse on the box...but, why not.

[Kurtnoise]

Originally posted by Koti
Possible feature request...
As you said, dumpster is the only way. So, no...

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Kurtnoise13
Rename ? Extract rather, no ?

There are already some hints when you move the mouse on the box...but, why not. Sorry about my typo (which I've now corrected)... but I think you know what I meant to say ;)


Cheers

[neo_anderson]

so, that means we cannot asign track names to audio streams and subtitle tracks while muxing in mp4 container? what is this dumpster?also, will .srt subs muxed in mp4 container work without installing haali's mp4 splitter, will it work just with zoom player and direct vob sub installed?

[bond]

Originally posted by neo_anderson
so, that means we cannot asign track names to audio streams and subtitle tracks while muxing in mp4 container?yes, you can with mpeg-4 systems (well what cant you do with it ;) ) but you will find hardly any player supporting

also, will .srt subs muxed in mp4 container work without installing haali's mp4 splitter, will it work just with zoom player and direct vob sub installed?with haalis splitter it will work in any directshow based player
next to a splitter you also need a decoder (like for audio, video too of course), and for that you can use vsfilter (directvobsub) or ffdshow itself

[SeeMoreDigital]

Can anybody tell me what the "Copyright" option is supposed to do?

http://img271.echo.cx/img271/1843/yambcopyright2tk.png


Cheers

[neo_anderson]

Originally posted by bond

with haalis splitter it will work in any directshow based player
next to a splitter you also need a decoder (like for audio, video too of course), and for that you can use vsfilter (directvobsub) or ffdshow itself


this means, to play srt subs in mp4 container, i need to install haali's splitter with mp4 support enabled? is there any other type of subs which in mp4 container, won't require the haali splitter, that is, they could just work with dvobsub?

[bond]

you always need a mp4 splitter, so why not using haali?

dvobsub is only a decoder, for playing any file in directshow you need a decoder PLUS a splitter

[neo_anderson]

as soon as i try to open a .srt file in yamb 1.2.1, it just crashes and vanishes! has anything like this happened to someone else too?

[Koti]

happened on 1.2.1 as well to me use 20050520 Yamb (http://kurtnoise.free.fr/Yamb_20050520.zip) with newest mp4box (http://www.aziendeassociate.it/cd.asp?dir=/gpac/dev)

Dumpster can edit track languages and titles if your willing to deal with some hassle - see this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=91879&highlight=dumpster)

(edit) dont recall if that thread went into title changing but it is possible ( or I have been lucky ) :D:D:D