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Wildfire
30th August 2010, 07:14
can i burn in subs with this program? thanks

The only way to have subs in your AVCHD is when they're present on your original Blu-ray, or, when converting a MKV, when they're already muxed in with your MKV. Supplying a SRT, for example, is not possible.

hoju3508
30th August 2010, 07:40
I just tried using your program. Simple GUI I/F and very easy to use! And, I also like having the option to keep the HD audio track.

I'm trying to backup Evangelion 2.22 to a BD25 keeping the DTS-HD MA track at the "very slow" x264 setting. However, the final result came out to be 15.7 GB, and I was expecting something closer to 23.2 GB.

Is this normal?


General
ID : 1
Complete name : C:\AVCHD\EVANGELION 2.22\BDMV\STREAM\00000.m2ts
Format : BDAV
Format/Info : Blu-ray Video
File size : 15.7 GiB
Duration : 1h 52mn
Overall bit rate : 20.1 Mbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=32
Duration : 1h 52mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Nominal bit rate : 25.8 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 40.0 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.518
Writing library : x264 core 104 r1698 c41b8f0
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=2 / weightp=2 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=2 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=25764 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 / nal_hrd=vbr
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Format profile : MA
Muxing mode : Stream extension
Duration : 1h 52mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Channel(s) : 7 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, Back: C, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Language : Japanese

Text
ID : 4608 (0x1200)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : PGS
Language : English

pistacho
30th August 2010, 11:23
I noticed that when I select the forced subtitles, when it makes into these copies BD are activated for the duration of the film, so do not full but those are automatic. :confused:

Then I have problem, perhaps unique, I can not find the subtitles convicts in Van Helsing, if I leave everything default, turn on the wrong ones, referring to the director's commentary or other
if I try to select another subtitle file, you enable only those standing for the duration of the film. :(

I tried for two days helping with other tools, I'd give anything to be done, wonder if anyone has had this problem or if a solution exists.

:thanks:

Usually forced subs come in a separate track. However, in some BD (few) can come mixed in the same track as all dialog subtitles.

Perhaps this is what happens in this case. If so there is no way to separate them. One solution would be to get the forced subs separately and add them later with tsMuxer.


I have a question regarding the subtitles. Is there any way to customize the font style and size and so forth for them? On my backup I ended up with very small subtitles pushed to the bottom of the screen.

There is no option to change the format of the subs but usually not necessary. The position, size, color and font are taken from the original PGS track. If the Blu-Ray the letters are large and yellow in the conversion will look the same for example. Have you checked as are the original subtitles?

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heliocentric
30th August 2010, 14:46
The only way to have subs in your AVCHD is when they're present on your original Blu-ray, or, when converting a MKV, when they're already muxed in with your MKV. Supplying a SRT, for example, is not possible.

I mean burning the subs that are in the original bluray file into the actual video? That would be useful for me

pistacho
31st August 2010, 09:51
I mean burning the subs that are in the original bluray file into the actual video? That would be useful for me

Incrusted subtitles in video are not possible but forced subtitles (default on) or unforced (default off) YES.

It is more versatile to have the subtitles on a track to have them incrusted in the video... I think.

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pistacho
31st August 2010, 10:12
I'm trying to backup Evangelion 2.22 to a BD25 keeping the DTS-HD MA track at the "very slow" x264 setting. However, the final result came out to be 15.7 GB, and I was expecting something closer to 23.2 GB.

Is this normal?


Perhaps with only an audio track needs only this size but do not know.

If you paste the BDInfo log of souce I can look if I see the cause.

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heliocentric
31st August 2010, 14:45
Incrusted subtitles in video are not possible but forced subtitles (default on) or unforced (default off) YES.

It is more versatile to have the subtitles on a track to have them incrusted in the video... I think.

Would be nice to have the option , specially if you want to view the resulting file on a program that doesn't support bluray forced subs.

Thanks

hoju3508
31st August 2010, 15:36
Here's the BDInfo for my project.



DISC INFO:

Disc Title: Evangelion 2.22
Disc Size: 30,346,464,664 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.5

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00000.MPLS
Length: 1:52:09 (h:m:s)
Size: 30,346,340,352 bytes
Total Bitrate: 36.08 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 31824 kbps 1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio Japanese 2370 kbps 6.1 / 48 kHz / 2370 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 6.1-ES / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 16-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 179.679 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00000.M2TS 0:00:00.000 1:52:09.546 30,346,340,352 36,075

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:00:13.011 15,151 kbps 44,942 kbps 00:00:03.378 34,379 kbps 00:00:02.961 19,684 kbps 00:00:02.961 78,734 bytes 467,408 bytes 00:00:07.716
2 0:00:13.011 0:00:05.006 1,110 kbps 1,417 kbps 00:00:16.933 1,110 kbps 00:00:13.013 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 5,788 bytes 23,742 bytes 00:00:17.684
3 0:00:18.018 0:00:07.005 3,519 kbps 9,085 kbps 00:00:20.645 4,472 kbps 00:00:20.019 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 18,344 bytes 249,869 bytes 00:00:25.024
4 0:00:25.024 0:01:58.369 32,844 kbps 47,856 kbps 00:01:49.818 38,254 kbps 00:01:49.651 36,507 kbps 00:01:06.107 171,236 bytes 779,412 bytes 00:01:16.076
5 0:02:23.393 0:03:24.495 32,630 kbps 49,939 kbps 00:03:23.119 40,129 kbps 00:02:56.426 35,602 kbps 00:02:51.462 170,116 bytes 736,033 bytes 00:04:13.836
6 0:05:47.889 0:02:49.210 31,057 kbps 42,116 kbps 00:08:35.806 37,067 kbps 00:05:52.852 34,787 kbps 00:05:52.852 161,876 bytes 778,624 bytes 00:07:10.471
7 0:08:37.099 0:00:58.475 31,695 kbps 49,389 kbps 00:09:32.321 35,980 kbps 00:09:28.192 34,020 kbps 00:08:48.986 165,362 bytes 769,584 bytes 00:09:22.979
8 0:09:35.575 0:01:55.990 30,859 kbps 47,940 kbps 00:10:28.753 35,407 kbps 00:11:00.159 34,023 kbps 00:10:56.697 160,829 bytes 772,880 bytes 00:11:25.893
9 0:11:31.566 0:03:17.446 32,557 kbps 42,078 kbps 00:13:04.867 35,020 kbps 00:12:06.642 33,931 kbps 00:13:22.468 169,773 bytes 780,825 bytes 00:14:31.120
10 0:14:49.013 0:00:59.852 32,427 kbps 40,507 kbps 00:15:42.149 34,301 kbps 00:15:33.849 33,827 kbps 00:15:28.844 168,943 bytes 775,113 bytes 00:15:19.918
11 0:15:48.865 0:01:19.788 32,963 kbps 41,485 kbps 00:16:31.990 35,840 kbps 00:16:13.764 34,414 kbps 00:16:08.509 171,853 bytes 754,627 bytes 00:16:07.132
12 0:17:08.653 0:01:38.009 32,336 kbps 46,561 kbps 00:17:11.238 35,019 kbps 00:17:27.713 34,240 kbps 00:17:19.955 168,647 bytes 768,566 bytes 00:17:54.615
13 0:18:46.663 0:02:33.449 31,194 kbps 47,179 kbps 00:20:39.446 35,296 kbps 00:20:35.400 33,767 kbps 00:19:40.762 162,636 bytes 780,275 bytes 00:19:12.609
14 0:21:20.112 0:02:15.135 31,051 kbps 46,493 kbps 00:22:06.616 35,304 kbps 00:21:58.859 34,503 kbps 00:21:59.818 161,887 bytes 783,087 bytes 00:21:27.953
15 0:23:35.247 0:03:00.680 29,083 kbps 40,228 kbps 00:25:45.377 34,481 kbps 00:25:55.762 33,717 kbps 00:25:07.130 151,593 bytes 782,298 bytes 00:26:15.991
16 0:26:35.927 0:01:31.715 32,787 kbps 44,960 kbps 00:27:11.379 34,956 kbps 00:26:36.011 34,221 kbps 00:26:46.187 171,015 bytes 697,485 bytes 00:27:32.317
17 0:28:07.643 0:02:58.384 31,288 kbps 55,256 kbps 00:28:18.113 36,221 kbps 00:28:32.961 34,102 kbps 00:29:10.039 163,118 bytes 782,286 bytes 00:29:59.422
18 0:31:06.027 0:01:44.606 31,251 kbps 44,485 kbps 00:32:37.705 36,062 kbps 00:32:41.209 34,333 kbps 00:32:29.113 162,928 bytes 780,456 bytes 00:31:47.447
19 0:32:50.634 0:02:20.724 32,292 kbps 50,233 kbps 00:33:44.605 37,087 kbps 00:33:28.381 36,400 kbps 00:34:30.359 168,354 bytes 759,491 bytes 00:33:04.065
20 0:35:11.358 0:04:18.300 32,102 kbps 53,107 kbps 00:35:30.294 38,721 kbps 00:36:15.882 37,955 kbps 00:36:03.327 167,337 bytes 778,624 bytes 00:37:41.050
21 0:39:29.659 0:01:33.925 32,626 kbps 42,190 kbps 00:40:55.578 34,677 kbps 00:40:55.578 33,789 kbps 00:39:53.724 170,168 bytes 780,114 bytes 00:41:03.586
22 0:41:03.585 0:03:21.869 30,499 kbps 45,712 kbps 00:44:08.979 35,317 kbps 00:44:09.021 33,847 kbps 00:43:22.766 159,006 bytes 783,385 bytes 00:42:58.909
23 0:44:25.454 0:04:34.398 32,214 kbps 45,519 kbps 00:47:07.366 36,836 kbps 00:47:03.445 35,069 kbps 00:46:59.816 167,949 bytes 779,128 bytes 00:48:01.753
24 0:48:59.853 0:01:57.492 27,843 kbps 41,882 kbps 00:49:36.640 36,234 kbps 00:50:44.541 34,654 kbps 00:50:44.666 145,108 bytes 782,927 bytes 00:49:32.094
25 0:50:57.346 0:02:15.427 30,113 kbps 42,687 kbps 00:51:13.987 35,110 kbps 00:51:54.820 34,031 kbps 00:51:50.315 156,996 bytes 778,119 bytes 00:51:05.562
26 0:53:12.773 0:05:09.724 31,897 kbps 43,361 kbps 00:55:24.154 37,338 kbps 00:53:36.588 35,132 kbps 00:55:06.428 166,319 bytes 783,525 bytes 00:54:59.587
27 0:58:22.497 0:02:07.378 33,002 kbps 51,707 kbps 01:00:18.906 36,335 kbps 00:59:23.810 35,191 kbps 00:59:23.685 172,059 bytes 741,742 bytes 00:58:26.502
28 1:00:29.876 0:00:37.704 32,838 kbps 40,172 kbps 01:00:47.685 34,305 kbps 01:00:44.682 33,750 kbps 01:00:39.427 171,017 bytes 753,016 bytes 01:00:31.502
29 1:01:07.581 0:05:10.099 31,865 kbps 42,423 kbps 01:01:22.387 35,323 kbps 01:03:17.168 34,136 kbps 01:04:01.212 166,152 bytes 779,776 bytes 01:05:36.307
30 1:06:17.680 0:02:02.289 30,545 kbps 52,509 kbps 01:07:53.778 37,154 kbps 01:07:59.283 35,060 kbps 01:07:57.865 159,249 bytes 782,703 bytes 01:07:22.037
31 1:08:19.970 0:02:24.186 31,767 kbps 45,673 kbps 01:08:29.438 37,936 kbps 01:08:28.521 35,017 kbps 01:08:28.813 165,575 bytes 783,456 bytes 01:10:27.932
32 1:10:44.157 0:00:51.090 32,117 kbps 41,359 kbps 01:11:29.076 34,966 kbps 01:11:29.493 33,740 kbps 01:10:59.046 167,569 bytes 782,751 bytes 01:10:45.783
33 1:11:35.247 0:02:41.329 32,657 kbps 49,470 kbps 01:12:16.623 37,335 kbps 01:13:54.805 35,637 kbps 01:13:55.889 170,263 bytes 782,479 bytes 01:11:53.142
34 1:14:16.577 0:11:07.666 32,294 kbps 52,605 kbps 01:18:55.522 38,644 kbps 01:18:52.060 36,568 kbps 01:18:52.853 168,365 bytes 781,021 bytes 01:21:07.362
35 1:25:24.243 0:02:17.387 31,822 kbps 50,103 kbps 01:26:37.150 37,796 kbps 01:26:33.271 35,124 kbps 01:26:28.182 165,904 bytes 752,158 bytes 01:25:32.627
36 1:27:41.631 0:02:03.748 31,821 kbps 46,803 kbps 01:28:40.690 36,280 kbps 01:29:20.313 35,080 kbps 01:29:19.896 165,847 bytes 776,326 bytes 01:27:55.019
37 1:29:45.380 0:05:02.090 32,583 kbps 50,298 kbps 01:30:46.148 38,193 kbps 01:30:44.772 35,763 kbps 01:34:22.740 169,897 bytes 766,016 bytes 01:31:32.403
38 1:34:47.470 0:02:10.175 32,762 kbps 42,236 kbps 01:36:10.598 37,841 kbps 01:36:13.767 36,579 kbps 01:36:13.517 170,811 bytes 782,378 bytes 01:36:14.643
39 1:36:57.645 0:01:55.198 33,033 kbps 49,795 kbps 01:38:19.727 37,939 kbps 01:38:10.426 36,373 kbps 01:38:10.426 172,157 bytes 709,548 bytes 01:38:28.944
40 1:38:52.844 0:02:22.350 33,057 kbps 51,015 kbps 01:39:20.037 37,521 kbps 01:39:48.607 35,768 kbps 01:39:48.607 172,395 bytes 716,782 bytes 01:38:57.514
41 1:41:15.194 0:04:40.860 32,697 kbps 45,772 kbps 01:43:32.205 37,489 kbps 01:41:15.194 34,580 kbps 01:43:10.726 170,465 bytes 771,036 bytes 01:41:43.347
42 1:45:56.055 0:05:38.632 32,940 kbps 49,442 kbps 01:51:05.241 37,327 kbps 01:51:15.168 35,587 kbps 01:51:14.375 171,715 bytes 746,305 bytes 01:51:09.204
43 1:51:34.688 0:00:34.858 26,343 kbps 43,867 kbps 01:51:38.191 36,047 kbps 01:51:57.544 33,663 kbps 01:51:36.606 137,799 bytes 685,637 bytes 01:51:54.999

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00000.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 6729.473 31,824 26,769,938,987 145,583,734
00000.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x86 DTS-HD MA jpn (Japanese) 6729.473 2,370 1,993,585,744 11,483,763
00000.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 6729.473 180 151,144,883 844,770

zecleaner
1st September 2010, 00:51
There is no option to change the format of the subs but usually not necessary. The position, size, color and font are taken from the original PGS track. If the Blu-Ray the letters are large and yellow in the conversion will look the same for example. Have you checked as are the original subtitles?

Yes, the subtitles on the source are in normal size, whereas the backed-up ones are tiny. I also tried multiple discs to see if it was just on the first one, but it was the same on all I tested.

pistacho
1st September 2010, 10:21
@ hoju3508:

Well, these are my calculations:

Aproximate Bitrate = 25.000.000.000 x 8 / 6729 (1:52:09) = 29722 Kbps

Aprox. Video Bitrate = Bitrate ? Audio ? Subs ? Overhead(4%) =
29722 ? 2370 ? 180 ? 1188 = 25984 Kbps

And in your MediaInfo:

Video
Nominal bit rate : 25.8 Mbps


So here is correct. The bitrate calculated by the program matches :)

But the real file has a different size and hence a different bitrate. In fact according to MediaInfo: total bitrate < video bitrate. This is impossible! :confused:

Overall bit rate : 20.1 Mbps


I can only think of two things: The video or file is corrupted (or missing a piece) or x264 codec has ignored the bitrrate indicated in the command line.

On the other hand the x264 command line is correct:

Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=4 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x133 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=24 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-3 / threads=6 / sliced_threads=0 / slices=4 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=1 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=2 / weightp=2 / keyint=24 / keyint_min=2 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=24 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=25764 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=30000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00 / nal_hrd=vbr

Sorry I can not give a specific explanation but at least we know that the bitrate calculation is correct and the problem is after...

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pistacho
1st September 2010, 10:35
Yes, the subtitles on the source are in normal size, whereas the backed-up ones are tiny. I also tried multiple discs to see if it was just on the first one, but it was the same on all I tested.

I think the problem you have on the player. PGS subtitle track of the Blu-Ray is the same after the conversion (remains untouched) and only remux it.

Test:

- Play the conversion in other player.
- Play the source Blu-Ray in the same player that conversion.

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pistacho
1st September 2010, 10:39
Would be nice to have the option , specially if you want to view the resulting file on a program that doesn't support bluray forced subs.

Thanks

yes but...resulting file is AVCHD compliant and AVCHD format support forced PGS subs?

It is assumed that the player also plays AVCHD format such as standard hardware Blu-Ray player, PS3, or software Arcsoft TMT, MPC-HC... all plays forced subtitles without problems :)

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zecleaner
1st September 2010, 11:54
I think the problem you have on the player. PGS subtitle track of the Blu-Ray is the same after the conversion (remains untouched) and only remux it.

Test:

- Play the conversion in other player.
- Play the source Blu-Ray in the same player that conversion.

Hmm, that's weird. I use the PS3 and also checked on the PC with VLC.

heliocentric
1st September 2010, 13:05
yes but...resulting file is AVCHD compliant and AVCHD format support forced PGS subs…

It is assumed that the player also plays AVCHD format such as standard hardware Blu-Ray player, PS3, or software Arcsoft TMT, MPC-HC... all plays forced subtitles without problems :)

i have a mac no such luxury :(

hoju3508
2nd September 2010, 03:48
The video or file is corrupted (or missing a piece)

I watched the movie and it's very pixelated. It appears that this encode is no good :(.

Wildfire
8th September 2010, 22:43
A reboot did fix it, but still it's strange... any idea what went wrong? BDtoAVCHD didn't work properly today - the screen was messed up. See the image below. The repair function did not fix it, neither did uninstalling and installing it again. A reboot was the cure. As long as it works, I'm glad, but I'd still like to know what could have caused something like this.

http://www.briandickens.nl/images/bdtoavchd.jpg

pistacho
13th September 2010, 10:25
New version 1.1.5 is out!
First post is updated.


@ Wildfire:

The truth is that it is the first time I see it :eek:. If you happen only once do not give importance (windows does strange things sometimes...)

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Wildfire
13th September 2010, 12:49
New version 1.1.5 is out!
First post is updated.

Thanks for the new version, I'll update immediately.


@ Wildfire:

The truth is that it is the first time I see it :eek:. If you happen only once do not give importance (windows does strange things sometimes...)

I just mentioned it on the off chance someone else had experienced this too. Should it happen again, I'll check to see if other programs are experiencing it too. Might be some common cause to be found :)

8ternity
22nd September 2010, 03:40
Hi Pistachio,

I not seen any answer to my suggestion about encode multi subtitles options. Did my suggestion is a constructive suggestion and can be installed on a futur update?

Thanks! I like your software!! :rolleyes:

Vertigooo
22nd September 2010, 22:21
Hi Pistacho

I am very interested to backup BD main movies to BD25 and have tested a few softwares accordingly (Ripbot 264, AVCHDcoder, BDRebuilder, MultiAVCHD and BDtoAVCHD) and BDtoAVCHD is the best I have found for my own needs.

Why?

Very easy GUI
Very good management of VBR Audio files (with Scan Bitrate ! Very good idea to implement that option for calculating precisely the output video bitrates)
Manual tuning allowed for output video bitrates
HD Audio can be left untouched
Tweaking of X264 with standard presets
No need to wait for ending the "demuxing" process before defining the output parameters
No need for codec as avisynth, ffdshow and haali media splitter
1st process seems not to be "demuxing" but only "indexation" (at least 2x faster)
--weightp 2 as an option
x264 allowed in x64 mode

All these together in only one GUI

It's a VERY GOOD job:)

A question : what happens if normal subtitles and forced subtitles are in different tracks and I select the normal subtitle track for output, is the forced track also selected by default?
If not , it could be interesting to have it included by default

I suggest the following future improvements (and I will really appreciate them) :

-Selection of multiple subtitle tracks (at least for normal subtitles and forced subtitles tracks)
-X264 options for animations (--tune animation)
-Some tweaks for x264 (compatible with bluray specs) allowing to tune the standard presets (like --deblock (between -2 and +2) --me (hex and umh) --subme (between 6 and 9) -merange (16 and 24) --trellis (1 and 2) --psy-rd --partitions all --direct auto)

-selection of multiple audio tracks (even if I don't really need it but others can be very interested)

and...possibility for donation...it's worth;)

A small "bug" (not annoying) : my selected preferred audio and subtitle tracks are french and english comes first in the BDtoAVCHD window at opening "2012" folder (french comes first for other Blurays)

Thanx for the work done so far

pistacho
25th September 2010, 15:49
@ Vertigooo:

Many thanks for the good feedback. It has helped me to take interesting ideas. :)

Some things will be ready in the next version:

http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/2199/advanced.gif

Other things will have to wait longer...


@ Vertigooo & 8ternity:

Multiple audio and subtitle tracks are the things I have no plans to implement now. But maybe in the future...

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Vertigooo
26th September 2010, 11:10
Hi Pistacho
Thank you for these very interesting additional settings.
Perhaps another possible improvement for the future.
Some films have an alternative end.
In some cases, there are two m2ts files with very close durations.
For example, for "I Am A Legend", 00051.m2ts lasting 1:43:54 and 00000.m2ts lasting 1:40:32. 00051.mts is the alternative end. BDtoAVCHD displays only the longest duration (00051.m2ts). As in HD-DVD/Blu-ray Stream Extractor (GUI for eac3to), it might be useful to leave the choice between both m2ts files. In my case, I prefer the normal end and so I have to select 00000.m2ts separately.
Thank you again for building BDtoAVCHD

pistacho
26th September 2010, 17:17
New version 1.2.0:


New: "Advanced Options" dialog. Can set x264 standar tune options (film, animation, grain, stillimage, psnr, ssim, fastdecode) and add custom command line parameters.
New: "Please wait..." message while the program scans the BD structure.
Fixed: crash when opening massive seamless branching Blu-Ray?s (workaround for BD Prince of Persia).
x264 updated to version r1724.
Small fixes and general improvements.
Warning: the saved jobs queued with earlier versions are not compatible with this version.


First post is updated ;)

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pistacho
27th September 2010, 20:22
@ Vertigooo:

I'll look if I can implement when I see a BD with this peculiarity. Normally when there are multiple versions of the film uses the system "seamless branching". In this case it lets you choose which version to convert.

I suppose in the case referred (I Am a Legend) is the entire movie twice in two different m2ts. But it is not very common.


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Wildfire
27th September 2010, 21:59
Thanks for the new version. In the changelog, I noticed this:

Fixed: crash when opening massive seamless branching Blu-Ray’s (workaround for BD Prince of Persia).

I converted the Prince of Persia Blu-ray to AVCHD using BDtoAVCDHD 1.1.5, I experienced no problems. Perhaps because I was working off an ISO I made using AnyDVD HD?

pistacho
29th September 2010, 09:58
Thanks for the new version. In the changelog, I noticed this:



I converted the Prince of Persia Blu-ray to AVCHD using BDtoAVCDHD 1.1.5, I experienced no problems. Perhaps because I was working off an ISO I made using AnyDVD HD?


The problem occurred with the full Blu-Ray (zone B/2). The tested version contains 2063 files and produced a buffer overflow. There may be a version with less extra or other cut???

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Wildfire
29th September 2010, 20:50
The problem occurred with the full Blu-Ray (zone B/2). The tested version contains 2063 files and produced a buffer overflow. There may be a version with less extra or other cut???

Hmmm, I have the retail region B Blu-ray. If I don't forget, tomorrow I'll check if it's some kind of special edition, although this was the only version on sale in the store. I assume it's the version other stores here in the Netherlands also have.

mbc0
6th October 2010, 08:40
Thank you for a superb product! I use slow as my setting & it is an 8 hour process on a Quad Core Q6600 with 16GB RAM so quite a good time.....Can I ask if it will ever be possible to copy multiple audio streams at all?

Thanks Again :-)

pkho
9th October 2010, 05:43
I keep getting Error Unable to read BD structure using Open BD Folder either from original disc or HD. I use AnydvdHD to rip to folder in a straight forward way. I have no problem using TMT to playback or BDRB to access those folders. I wonder what have gone wrong.

Vertigooo
14th October 2010, 20:48
I have tested the 1.2.0 version making only backup to BD-R 25GB and it works fine. Never get a real problem.
Bitrates calculation for video is really perfect even with DTS-HD MA audio. 20 MB free on the BD-R before burning !!!!
That means that 99.9% of the BD-R is used.

I made some suggestions for improvements in the past and hope Pistacho will take some of them in consideration.
Maybe another one : an option for automatic shutdown of the computer at the end of the mux process. Just because I used to sleep at 2.00 AM.

pkho : be aware that such event could happen if you have a cracked version of AnyDVD HD. Try another encrypted Bluray. Try also a homemade bluray (family movie : not encrypted). You will directly see if the problem comes from AnyDVD HD.

Vertigooo
14th October 2010, 20:58
pkho : it could also happen if you don't have the last version of anyDVD HD trying to open a very recent BD

Vertigooo
14th October 2010, 21:27
Here are my settings for backup to BD25 with recompression :

for movies : speed vs quality (preset) : slower, tune : film and --merange 24 as additional parameter. Video bitrate is generally calculated between 14000 and 20000

for animations : speed vs quality : slower, tune : animation, --merange 24 --bframes 3 --ref 4 and --trellis 0 as additional parameters.

Tune animation introduces higher bframes number and higher ref number (with preset slower) and I suspect it is not compatible with Bluray Spec (not tested). I correct it with --brames 3 and --ref 4.

In both cases, the result is perfect. Impossible to see any difference with the original BD even using the pause function and freezing frames

pistacho
19th October 2010, 18:00
New version 1.2.1 :)

Changelog


New: "Shut down computer when finished" option. Activating this option shuts down computer when finish all jobs in queue.
New: It takes into account events WM_QUERYENDSESSION and WM_ENDSESSION so Windows can tell the program that should stop the conversion to restart/shutdown the computer. You can continue the conversion without repeating the steps already completed.
Fixed: flickering in some interlaced video sources. Now command --demuxer "lavf" is used in these sources.
x264 updated to version r1732.
Small fixes and general improvements.




Maybe another one : an option for automatic shutdown of the computer at the end of the mux process. Just because I used to sleep at 2.00 AM.

It happened because he had begun to do so before reading this. :D


pkho : be aware that such event could happen if you have a cracked version of AnyDVD HD. Try another encrypted Bluray. Try also a homemade bluray (family movie : not encrypted). You will directly see if the problem comes from AnyDVD HD.

I also think it should be a problem with AnyDVD HD/encryption...

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thewonderer
20th October 2010, 00:59
Haven't tried this out yet, but look like a great program :)

I wondered if you will also allow reading of .ISO images in a future release? Would be very useful :)

thewonderer
20th October 2010, 06:13
Hmm, think i may have found a bug.

I was encoding a movie, but decided to stop it.

I reconfigured the encode and tried to delete the original one. I cannot remove it.

Re-started program, highlighted stopped encode and still do not have a option to delete it.

Vertigooo
20th October 2010, 20:09
The wonderer : it seems it is a small bug : restart, cancel and then delete the job

Hi Pistacho

It seems that you don't sleep at 2.00 AM :)
Once again thanks for the improvement mainly the shutdown after finishing the jobs in queue.

There is still something annoying for me (probably also for others)

Managing forced subtitles with Bluray ripping softwares is generally realized following 2 different methods:

1) Either the forced subtitles are in the main subtitle file which includes some forced captions (we can check it in the log file created by the HD DVD Bluray Stream Extractor software or by opening the .sup file with BDSuptoSub and identifying some forced captions in it).

BDtoAVCHD can easily manage that by selecting (option: "selected" in target subtitle) the main subtitle track

2) Or the forced subtitles file is a separate .sup file (with small size and very low bitrate) but no forced captions

BDtoAVCHD can also easily manage that by selecting and forcing (option : "selected forced") this small .sup file. We can check it with BDedit controlling the corresponding command in the movieobject.bdmv file (something like 51C00001 0000C001)

BUT when using the second method it is impossible to add a second sub track, for example to add the normal subtitles (I mean the forced and non forced subtitles together) because BDtoAVCHD is not able to manage more than one .sup file.

The solution is to use TsMuxer for adding the second sub track but TsMuxer CANCELS any forced sub track in the movieobject.bdmv file. It is thus necessary to use an additional small and easy tool I found on the Web (called “correctBD.exe”) to force once again the small sized sub track including the forced subtitles.

All this is quite annoying.

Conclusion : it would be very interesting that BDtoAVCHD is able to include more than one subtitle tracks in the output .m2ts file and is able to force only one of them by modifying the movieobject.bdmv file.

Maybe you have already been working on that :)

proper88
22nd October 2010, 21:34
Hi pistacho,

another small bug
when a choose in the settings menu preferred audio language to german, the main windows always select englisch


maybe you can add the feature to open iso file directly

your software is great, very ease to use !

//proper88

Vertigooo
24th October 2010, 12:49
Hello Pistacho

I have got the same problem with french. It is a very small bug...solved with 2 clicks...
Other softs use "fre" and "fra" as iso codes for french and don't seem to have the problems. Maybe it is the cause but I don't know.

I don't need any menus, intros,... and BDtoAVCHD is the best for movie only backup ;) .... but please don't forget the multiple subtitle tracks....

usak
30th October 2010, 11:58
Hello pistacho nice program from spanish programmer !

I like to know if was posible to run this program in WINE 1.2 under MAC OSX.

I work very good whith others like, DVDfab.

but your program don´t go ,this came solve ?

thanks !

usak
30th October 2010, 12:18
please explain how to use :

"Advanced Options" dialog. Can set x264 standar tune options (film, animation, grain, stillimage, psnr, ssim, fastdecode) and add custom command line parameters.

for example "grain option" need more parameters or some ?

grain option like default got the best results at veryslow option,to get the graining of the original film ? ,im lost on this .

thanks !

Adub
31st October 2010, 10:11
The tuning is just a specific option in the X264 commandline that tweak specific video options such as PSY and AQ optimizations. You can view the documentations for all of these options under x264's help dialog under the "--tune" option.

doc_dvxm
4th November 2010, 15:16
Hi there.. Thanx for your hard work pistacho :)

I want to say that I'll test your program to create a BD25 discs from BD50 sources. I am planning to take the necessary for me video & audio tracks ( english (or main) DTSHD-MA + my native languages audio tracks) + subs (english (or main) + my languages sub track) and to cut the all of other unnecessary for me parts of this BD50 sources.

Can we have a chance to add on the main screen the second audio & subs language row? (like main audio & subs language row)

I know that I can do it with TsMuxer + eac3to, but your software seems to be more simple for all of that?

Thanx in advance...

doc

Wildfire
5th November 2010, 21:36
Subtitles come out too small with BDtoAVCHD. At least, they did with two MKVs I converted to AVCHD. The subtitles were embedded in the original MKVs. As there are no options in BDtoAVCHD to control subtitles, I wonder how I can fix this problem...

-- Edit: that's with BDtoAVCHD v1.2.1, so it's the latest version. Some info about the MKV I tried encoding and which came out with too small subtitles (most people would need a spyglass to be able to read them :)). Extracted with MediaInfo.

General
Complete name : E:\Movies\HD Movies\Knight and Day\Knight and Day (2010) 1080P.X264.NL.SUBBED.Bradje.mkv
Format : Matroska
File size : 11.2 GiB
Duration : 1h 49mn
Overall bit rate : 14.7 Mbps
Movie name : Knight and Day (2010) 1080P.X264.NL.SUBBED.Bradje
Encoded date : UTC 2010-11-01 15:52:20
Writing application : mkvmerge v3.3.0 ('Language') built on Mar 24 2010 14:59:24
Writing library : libebml v0.8.0 + libmatroska v0.9.0

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 5 frames
Codec ID : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration : 1h 49mn
Bit rate : 12.5 Mbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 800 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.40:1
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.340
Stream size : 9.35 GiB (83%)
Title : x264
Writing library : x264 core 102 r1666 d058f37
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=5 / deblock=1:-3:-3 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=10 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.10:0.15 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=48 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=2 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=0 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=6 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=25 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=2pass / mbtree=1 / bitrate=12515 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.70 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=50000 / vbv_bufsize=50000 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:0.90 / nal_hrd=none
Language : English

Audio #1
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : A_AC3
Duration : 1h 49mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 640 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 501 MiB (4%)
Title : AC3
Language : English

Audio #2
ID : 3
Format : DTS
Format/Info : Digital Theater Systems
Codec ID : A_DTS
Duration : 1h 49mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1 510 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 24 bits
Stream size : 1.15 GiB (10%)
Title : DTS
Language : English

Text #1
ID : 4
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Title : Subtitles
Language : Dutch

Text #2
ID : 5
Format : UTF-8
Codec ID : S_TEXT/UTF8
Codec ID/Info : UTF-8 Plain Text
Title : Subtitles
Language : English

Menu
00:00:00.000 : en:Video Start
00:05:00.000 : en:Chapter 1 - 00 Hr 05 Min
00:10:00.000 : en:Chapter 2 - 00 Hr 10 Min
00:15:00.000 : en:Chapter 3 - 00 Hr 15 Min
00:20:00.000 : en:Chapter 4 - 00 Hr 20 Min
00:25:00.000 : en:Chapter 5 - 00 Hr 25 Min
00:30:00.000 : en:Chapter 6 - 00 Hr 30 Min
00:35:00.000 : en:Chapter 7 - 00 Hr 35 Min
00:40:00.000 : en:Chapter 8 - 00 Hr 40 Min
00:45:00.000 : en:Chapter 9 - 00 Hr 45 Min
00:50:00.000 : en:Chapter 10 - 00 Hr 50 Min
00:55:00.000 : en:Chapter 11 - 00 Hr 55 Min
01:00:00.000 : en:Chapter 12 - 01 Hr 00 Min
01:05:00.000 : en:Chapter 13 - 01 Hr 05 Min
01:10:00.000 : en:Chapter 14 - 01 Hr 10 Min
01:15:00.000 : en:Chapter 15 - 01 Hr 15 Min
01:20:00.000 : en:Chapter 16 - 01 Hr 20 Min
01:25:00.000 : en:Chapter 17 - 01 Hr 25 Min
01:30:00.000 : en:Chapter 18 - 01 Hr 30 Min
01:35:00.000 : en:Chapter 19 - 01 Hr 35 Min
01:40:00.000 : en:Chapter 20 - 01 Hr 40 Min
01:45:00.000 : en:Chapter 21 - 01 Hr 45 Min

pistacho
7th November 2010, 11:11
New version 1.2.2 Fixes small bugs reported here.

Thank you all for commenting on bugs and possible improvements :)

Changelog


New: "Play sound when finish a job" option.
Improved: The languages that use two ISO codes are detected with any of them (fre/fra, ger/deu, ...). To be effective must be re-set preferences.
Improved: now stopped jobs can be removed from the queue without having to Start > Cancel.
x264 updated to version r1745.


Lately I have not much free time :( but I keep reading the comments...

Wildfire
7th November 2010, 11:15
New version 1.2.2 Fixes small bugs reported here.

Thank you all for commenting on bugs and possible improvements :)

Changelog


New: "Play sound when finish a job" option.
Improved: The languages that use two ISO codes are detected with any of them (fre/fra, ger/deu, ...). To be effective must be re-set preferences.
Improved: now stopped jobs can be removed from the queue without having to Start > Cancel.
x264 updated to version r1745.


Lately I have not much free time :( but I keep reading the comments...

Thanks for the new version, but it seems I'll have to stop using BDtoAVCHD as long as it creates very small subs.

In the meantime, I'll try and see if AVCHDCoder is any good. I'm currently trying it on the MKV which BDtoAVCHD converted with very small subs, so if AVCHCoder delivers normally sized subs then surely BDtoAVCHD can be fixed -- if and when you actually have some time for it, of course :)

I wonder why the subs are so small... you'd almost need magnifier glasses to be able to read them. That's how tiny they are :P

pistacho
7th November 2010, 11:26
Hello pistacho nice program from spanish programmer !

I like to know if was posible to run this program in WINE 1.2 under MAC OSX.

I work very good whith others like, DVDfab.

but your program don´t go ,this came solve ?

thanks !

Sorry but I can not help with this because I have never used WINE. Might not work because it keeps the settings in the Windows registry and also used many functions of the WIN32 API. Usually get better functionality and performance that using standard C functions.

pistacho
7th November 2010, 11:42
Thanks for the new version, but it seems I'll have to stop using BDtoAVCHD as long as it creates very small subs.

In the meantime, I'll try and see if AVCHDCoder is any good. I'm currently trying it on the MKV which BDtoAVCHD converted with very small subs, so if AVCHCoder delivers normally sized subs then surely BDtoAVCHD can be fixed -- if and when you actually have some time for it, of course :)

I wonder why the subs are so small... you'd almost need magnifier glasses to be able to read them. That's how tiny they are :P


The problem of small subtitles only occurs when converting MKV to AVCHD. There is no problem with subtitles when converting from Blu-Ray.

Try to fix it in the next version but not before two weeks... While you can use AVCHDCoder to convert from MKV. (AVCHDCoder is also a very good program and is what I used before :rolleyes:)

Wildfire
7th November 2010, 14:27
The problem of small subtitles only occurs when converting MKV to AVCHD. There is no problem with subtitles when converting from Blu-Ray.

Try to fix it in the next version but not before two weeks... While you can use AVCHDCoder to convert from MKV. (AVCHDCoder is also a very good program and is what I used before :rolleyes:)

Thanks for the info. I'll use AVCHDCoder for now, but I must say: whereas BDtoAVCHD is install-and-go, AVCHDCoder actually required me to read the installation guidelines in order for it to work :)
(meaning there were several steps I had to take to get the program to run as expected)

Anyway, take your time fixing it. I'm already way too glad you're releasing BDtoAVCHD for free :P

ed_co
10th November 2010, 14:51
Multiple audio tracks, please!
This is the only thing to be absolutly perfect.
Is only to change the GUI a little bit allowing to have 2 combos of audios.
Same with subtitles.
Maybe is complex to do that, but I don't understand what is the reason.
Please, don't forget that. I think that is pretty important.

Thank you very much.

thewonderer
11th November 2010, 05:06
Love the program.... thank you for sharing

Would like to request support for adding multiple audio tracks (film and directors commentary for example) and reading of BD .iso files..