Hybrid: Input -> x264/x265/Xvid/VP8/VP9

[Selur]

Log doesn't help me at all since it does not contain the decoder call. :)
My guess is that Hybrid messes up with the decoder call.
-> see: http://www.selur.de/support how to create a debugOutput log :)
(delete the old job from the job queue, restart hybrid, set the output, enable the debug output, do everything until you created the crash, upload the debugOutput to e.g. pastebin and send me a link to it)

[Selur]

After some thinking about it, I think I see the problem. :)
If you did enable 'x264->Misc->Adjustments->Adjustments->Use internal decoder if possible' the problem is that x264 seemingly can't decode your file.
-> if this option is enabled ffmpeg or mencoder will be used to decode the file and x264 itself will not do the color conversion.
If ffmpeg/mencoder also fail and you can upload a small sample of such a file I can look into it and may be figure out a workaround.

If you got a vfw decoder installed for the Sony Packed YUV codec it might help to use the 'avisynth extension' this way AviSource should be used which than will use the vfw decoder. (not 100% so a sample might be good)

Cu Selur

[Bleck]

If you got a vfw decoder installed for the Sony Packed YUV codec it might help to use the 'avisynth extension' this way AviSource should be used which than will use the vfw decoder. (not 100% so a sample might be good)
Cu Selur

I don't know, the codec is installed in ths system as part of Sony Vegas Pro. So there should be a decoder too, right?

The Sony YUV videos (4:2:2) make ffms and lavf to crash. And the only way to run them with avs is using ffdshow pipe. (Not precise).

I will test that about unchecking internal decoder. If fail, Ill send you the requested log.

EDIT: That was already unchecked as I can see :\
I will try a uncompressed RGB24 sample. Also, I will send you a sample of a Sony YUV encodec video: http://7054977.netau.net/files/input.zip

[Selur]

So there should be a decoder too, right?
Not sure if it's a vfw decoder or a directshow decoder or an internal decoder, but using the avisynth extension might be worth a try.

Ill send you the requested log.
a small sample will probably help more, that way I can try to reproduce the problem here. :)

[Bleck]

I will try a uncompressed RGB24 sample. Also, I will send you a sample of a Sony YUV encodec video: http://7054977.netau.net/files/input.zip

Here is.

[Selur]

Reencoding works fine here (with 'x264->Misc->Adjustments->Adjustments->Use internal decoder if possible' disabled).
If it does not for you it's probably because I tweaked my Hybrid version by downloading the 'binary codec pack' from http://www.mplayerhq.hu/design7/dload.html#binary_codecs extracted it into the Hybrid folder and renamed it from 'windows-essential-20071007' to 'codecs' this way Hybrids mencoder and mplayer version can use it to decode some more exotic content. ;) (see: http://forum.selur.de/topic33-hidden-hybrid-options.html)

Cu Selur

[Bleck]

Does it crash with Use internals enabled?
Downloading that pack...

[Selur]

Yes, when using the internal decoder of x264 it crashes for me too -> aside from the ridiculously long codec id/info MediaInfo doesn't offer any means to differentiate this file from others as far as I see otherwise I would write a workaround so that Hybrid automatically does not use the internal decoder. btw. it's not really worth to use the internal decoder anyways since I never encountered a case where it was faster than decoding with another application and piping to x264. ;) (I did however encounter a few files that were faster when not decoded directly through x264)

Cu Selur

[Bleck]

It was always faster for me. When using ffmpeg as pipe, I had like 3 fps vs 15-20 fps with internal.
(Video encoding was slow too).

[Selur]

Really? Okay, seems like your samples clearly differ from the once I tested with. :)

btw. since you probably have more of those files created with Vegas, to they all show a TCOD&TCDD flag? (see: mediainfo --fullhelp "path to file") If they do I could use that as indicator not to use the internal decoder. :)

[Bleck]

Really? Okay, seems like your samples clearly differ from the once I tested with. :)

btw. since you probably have more of those files created with Vegas, to they all show a TCOD&TCDD flag? (see: mediainfo --fullhelp "path to file") If they do I could use that as indicator not to use the internal decoder. :)

I dont know but this is the full report of one of the files:


C:\Users\Developer>"C:\Program Files\Hybrid\MediaInfo.exe" -f C:\Users\Developer\Desktop\finaltotal.avi
General
Count : 282
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : General
Kind of stream : General
Stream identifier : 0
Count of video streams : 1
Count of audio streams : 1
Video_Format_List : YUV
Video_Format_WithHint_List : YUV
Codecs Video : YUV
Audio_Format_List : PCM
Audio_Format_WithHint_List : PCM
Audio codecs : PCM
Complete name : C:\Users\Developer\Desktop\finaltotal.avi
Folder name : C:\Users\Developer\Desktop
File name : finaltotal
File extension : avi
Format : AVI
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format/Extensions usually used : avi
Commercial name : AVI
Internet media type : video/vnd.avi
Interleaved : Yes
Codec : AVI
Codec : AVI
Codec/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Codec/Extensions usually used : avi
File size : 327925248
File size : 313 MiB
File size : 313 MiB
File size : 313 MiB
File size : 313 MiB
File size : 312.7 MiB
Duration : 7080
Duration : 7s 80ms
Duration : 7s 80ms
Duration : 7s 80ms
Duration : 00:00:07.080
Overall bit rate : 370537003
Overall bit rate : 371 Mbps
Stream size : 319488
Stream size : 312 KiB (0%)
Stream size : 312 KiB
Stream size : 312 KiB
Stream size : 312 KiB
Stream size : 312.0 KiB
Stream size : 312 KiB (0%)
Proportion of this stream : 0.00097
File creation date : UTC 2012-12-22 16:44:18.779
File creation date (local) : 2012-12-22 17:44:18.779
File last modification date : UTC 2012-12-22 16:44:28.227
File last modification date (local) : 2012-12-22 17:44:28.227
TCOD : 1656400000
TCDO : 1727200000

Video
Count : 253
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Video
Kind of stream : Video
Stream identifier : 0
ID : 0
ID : 0
Format : YUV
Commercial name : YUV
Codec ID : UYVY
Codec ID/Info : Uncompressed 16bpp. YUV 4:2:2 (Y sample at every pixel, U and V sampled at every second pixel horizontally on each line). A macropixel contains 2 pixels in 1 u_int32.
Codec : UYVY
Codec : YUV
Codec/Family : YUV
Codec/Info : Uncompressed 16bpp. YUV 4:2:2 (Y sample at every pixel, U and V sampled at every second pixel horizontally on each line). A macropixel contains 2 pixels in 1 u_int32.
Codec/CC : UYVY
Duration : 7080
Duration : 7s 80ms
Duration : 7s 80ms
Duration : 7s 80ms
Duration : 00:00:07.080
Bit rate : 368640000
Bit rate : 369 Mbps
Width : 1280
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 720
Height : 720 pixels
Pixel aspect ratio : 1.000
Display aspect ratio : 1.778
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Frame count : 177
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:2
Compression mode : Lossless
Compression mode : Lossless
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 16.000
Stream size : 326246400
Stream size : 311 MiB (99%)
Stream size : 311 MiB
Stream size : 311 MiB
Stream size : 311 MiB
Stream size : 311.1 MiB
Stream size : 311 MiB (99%)
Proportion of this stream : 0.99488

Audio
Count : 218
Count of stream of this kind : 1
Kind of stream : Audio
Kind of stream : Audio
Stream identifier : 0
ID : 1
ID : 1
Format : PCM
Commercial name : PCM
Format settings : Little / Signed
Format settings, Endianness : Little
Format settings, Sign : Signed
Codec ID : 1
Codec ID/Url : http://www.microsoft.com/windows/
Codec : PCM
Codec : PCM
Codec/Family : PCM
Codec/Info : Microsoft PCM
Codec/Url : http://www.microsoft.com/windows/
Codec/CC : 1
Codec settings : Little / Signed
Codec settings, Endianness : Little
Codec settings, Sign : Signed
Duration : 7080
Duration : 7s 80ms
Duration : 7s 80ms
Duration : 7s 80ms
Duration : 00:00:07.080
Bit rate mode : CBR
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 1536000
Bit rate : 1 536 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Sampling rate : 48000
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Samples count : 339840
Resolution : 16
Resolution : 16 bits
Bit depth : 16
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 1359360
Stream size : 1.30 MiB (0%)
Stream size : 1 MiB
Stream size : 1.3 MiB
Stream size : 1.30 MiB
Stream size : 1.296 MiB
Stream size : 1.30 MiB (0%)
Proportion of this stream : 0.00415
Interleave, duration : 1.00
Interleave, duration : 40
Interleave, duration : 40 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 40
Interleave, preload duration : 40 ms

[Selur]

that stream also has these flags:
'TCOD : 1656400000
TCDO : 1727200000
-> looks promising :)

[digitall.h]

I'm sorry to jump in here, when you're now discussing the CUDA thing (not for Linux, I'm afraid...)
1. you can keep the idx/sub subtitles, if your decoder software support them (mp4box and Hybrid do), no need to convert to .srt

Yes selur, the decoder does support them.
As there was no forced subs in the sub stream, I created my own ones from the original stream. And to read and select them, I had to convert to srt.
I will try again with testing version.

[Selur]

I will try again with testing version.
do that, especially try the 'Search hidden forced subttiles on DVD'
here's the toolTip info for it:
When enabled Hybrid will look for forced subtitle inside other subtitle tracks.
Warning: Preview of such tracks won't work, due to a bug in MPlayer, see: http://lists.mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2007-March/066118.html

Cu Selur

[digitall.h]

I will try the 'Search hidden forced subtitles' thing, for sure.

It changed a little the aspect of Hybrid here in Linux...

Aaaaargh, it crashes.
When I complete the adjustments and hit 'Add to Queue', it crashes.
Send you Debug...

[Selur]

Aaaaargh, it crashes.
When I complete the adjustments and hit 'Add to Queue', it crashes.
Send you Debug...
set the output before you
a. load the source
b. enable debug output
and
c. make your settings
otherwise the debugoutput file gets split and you end up sending me the part that is not interesting,...
-> can't do anything with the debugoutput you send me

[digitall.h]

The Debug has all the info, but I'm afraid its big and difficult to read :o

I'll reproduce the problem, and send new debug.

[Selur]

do that :) (btw. set debug level to 1 not 7 otherwise the debug output will get really long ;))

[Selur]

think I found the problem send a link to an updated version,..

[DJ-1]

Hi, have been ill the last few days so haven't got on here....

I disabled both windows firewall & anti-virus real-time-protection (ms security essentials)... & still get same issue.

Sent from my Galaxy S II using tapatalk

[Selur]

Problem still is I got no idea why eedi3.dll can't be loaded on your system. :(
Working on something else atm. but if I find the time I'll setup and upload a standalone portable version of Hybrid and send you a link (in an hour or two)

[DJ-1]

I un installed the various ms visual updates... & went thru them 1 by 1.

I solved the eedi3.dll error, the 2005 ms visual studio update stops it error there.

I'm not sure what the 2008 ms visual studio does (if it's even relevant, although both 2008 & 2005 mentioned in the previously linked thread).

So the 2005 update solves the eedi3.dll from failing to load, but i now get an error saying "can't load SSE2Tools.dll" error=0x7e

Can I ask exactly what versions of the ms visual redistritable you've got on you PC?, or anything else that windows maybe relying on to correctly do what we need it to.?
Thanks.
Merry Christmas :)


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[Selur]

Can I ask exactly what versions of the ms visual redistritable you've got on you PC?
*gig* my windows pc is a development machine of mine, which has lots of runtimes installed. ;)
http://s13.postimage.org/hv2qm7ph3/runtime_Etc.png
+ the main question is: "What is causing the problem on your machine?"
since you are the only user ever to report this, something on your system must be different to normal installations.
(and taking my system as a starting point doesn't seem like a good idea ;))
-> did you do any uncommon modifications to you system e.g. stop some services?

[DJ-1]

Na. All I did was bung the disc in, wipe & regular install (quite recent too, about 6-8 weeks ago)
I'll try again 2moro...but last weekend before the 1st error got fixed... I tried it my little HTPC (Win7 pro on that 1) & it was behaving in much the same way..
I'll check it on the HTPC again 2moro & let u know

Sent from my Galaxy S II using tapatalk

[Selur]

small heads-up: my windows 8 laptop has the same problem :)
Don't know what's the problem, but at least now I can also try to figure out what's causing this. ;)

using http://www.dependencywalker.com/ I got the info:
1. eedi3.dll needs a vcomp.dll
2. SSE2Tools.dll needs MSVCR71.dll -> can be fixed by putting msvcr71.dll into the avisynthplugins folder

[DJ-1]

small heads-up: my windows 8 laptop has the same problem :)
Don't know what's the problem, but at least now I can also try to figure out what's causing this. ;)

using http://www.dependencywalker.com/ I got the info:
1. eedi3.dll needs a vcomp.dll
2. SSE2Tools.dll needs MSVCR71.dll -> can be fixed by putting msvcr71.dll into the avisynthplugins folder

Hi, ive been out all day today & have not had any chance to do what I said (yet).. I was talking about this stuff with my brother, as we share a Microsoft Technet account... I. E: I've got access to other versions of Windows.... (as my current is only win7 home premiim) & would be good to use 'pro' ' version to the emulation stuff (for testing things) etc.

Does hybrid 'generally' play nicely with Win8?...
Was just curios....
Cheers.

Sent from my Galaxy S II using tapatalk

[Selur]

Does hybrid 'generally' play nicely with Win8?...
aside from the avisynth issue: Yes. No real problems so far. (I think the current official doesn't support drag&drop, dev version does.)

-> to resolve the SSE2Tools.dll loading, it's enough to copy msvcr71.dll into the avisynthplugins folder
to fix the eedi3.dll loading only installing Visual Studio 2005 runtime + Visual Studio 2005 runtime SP1 seems to fix the issue :/

[Selur]

SEt posted an eedi3.dll (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1607912#post1607912) which doesn't require vcomp.dll -> simply replace the eedi3.dll in the avisynthextension with the new one and it should work. :)
-> updated the avisynth extension to include the new eedi3.dll and msvcr71.dll

[digitall.h]

selur,
in your last testing version, audio language tags are lost.
Previously, when I added audio language tags, when I wanted to select a language, I could see the language tag I wanted to select.
With last testing version, I just see audio track numbers, but not the language tag.

[Selur]

can't really follow you.
a. what version are you using? (latest testing is 2012.12.29.1)
b. what are you doing?
I just tested:
1. start hybrid
2. load file
3. activate tagging
4. and under Tag->Audiostream tagging I can select the audio stream and the language without a problem
Under Main->Audio and Audio->Main->Track you can either see just 'Track number' or 'Track number - language' depending if the source had language infos for the streams.

[digitall.h]

can't really follow you.
a. what version are you using? (latest testing is 2012.12.29.1)
b. what are you doing?
I just tested:
1. start hybrid
2. load file
3. activate tagging
4. and under Tag->Audiostream tagging I can select the audio stream and the language without a problem
Under Main->Audio and Audio->Main->Track you can either see just 'Track number' or 'Track number - language' depending if the source had language infos for the streams.
I'm sorry, I thought I was clear.
I'm using 2012.12.24.1, last version you sent me link to.
There's nothing wrong with Hybrid GUI, I see audio tracks correctly, and I apparently tag audio correctly.
BUT, when I play the encoded mp4 file with VLC, or see properties in MediaInfo, it just shows audio track numbers, and not language, as it used in mp4 encoded with previous Hybrid versions.
I hope I explained myself better now.
It it's still confusing, I may upload a mp4.

[Selur]

Ah okay, might be a problem with the muxing call. Does it contain something like:
-add "H:\Output\iId_1_aid_1_17_26_51_9010_02.mp3"#audio:lang="eng" ?

[digitall.h]

Right, there's no :lang="eng"

[Selur]

okay, will look at it :)

[Selur]

Hybrid rev. 2013.01.02.1

*fixed*

analyze: the interlaced analysis detected telecine material sometimes as progressive
analyze: interlace detection now respects initial delay
audio: crash due to a loop for multiaudio input
avisynth: script generation for .mpls input
avisynth: make sure Visual Studio 10 runtime dlls are loaded when eedi3 (QTGMC) is used.
avisynth: fixed a bunch of problem related to sRestore
crop/resize: fixed a bug during crop detection
input: pixel aspect ratio 0.889 now matched to 8:9
output: remuxing mkv(vfw) -> mkv
output: par wasn't overwritten properly through mp4box
subs: subs: problem during srt to ttxt conversion
x264: 2pass 2nd pass call, when selected alone

*changed*

cosmetics: adjust icon size to size of the rest of the ui
cosmetics: replaced a bunch of RadioButtons with menus (on Linux&Windows), with ComboBoxes on Mac
cuda: text when a no nvenc-compatible card was detected
general: some refactoring&cleanup
general: switching to Qt 4.8.4 (fixes Win8 drag&drop problem)
input: filtering out .mpls files where the general length does not match the video length
jobs: checking on job start that output folder exists
x264: don't use internal decoder if MediaInfo output contains 'TCOD' and 'TCDO' data

*added*

audio: option to adjust audio delay accordingly when audio speed is changed
audio: options to set aften 'drc'&'dnorm' signaling when using aften encoder
filter: 'progressive to interlace'-option which will convert e.g. 60 progressive frames per second to 60 fields per second
input: additional option to filter the playlist-listing of blu-rays
output: mkv option to set some additional tags from http://matroska.org/technical/specs/tagging/index.html#tags
output: added options to disable cue duration and relative position elements
preview: alternative filter preview (half width, each)
progress: option to limit the progress indication to 'X%' without more detailed explanations
tagging: audio&subtitle tags weren't updated properly
tagging: option to passthrough audio title, video title and language


-> downloads: http://www.selur.de/downloads

Cu Selur

[DJ-1]

hi. happy new year :) :)
as im using the 32bit APP, am i fine just replacing the hybrid exe alone.... or do i need to replace more than that?

p. s:thanks for the previous help, i thought i was going mad @ 1 point when it were only me getting the errors....
Not getting those errors now thou... :)

Sent from my Galaxy S II using Tapatalk.

[Selur]

compared to the last complete version, I probably also updated some of the tools Hybrid uses, but since I can't remember any critical changes replacing the binary should be fine this time,...

[DJ-1]

ok...
If i have an input with multi-audio tracks, & wish to passthru the last track & ingnore 1st stream (i. e: french maybe the 1st,English 2nd)...i see i can 'passthru all'.
could there be a selection when passthru (audio handling) is able to specify wich track to passthru, or both?

cheers.

Sent from my Galaxy S II using tapatalk

[Selur]

If you want to passthrough all audio streams except a specific one the quickest way would be to: load source with Audio handling set to passthrough all, then switch Audio handling to Custom and remove the one audio track you don't want.
If you want to passthrough an audio track with a specific language and no others, the quickest way would be to set Config->Automation->On Load->Select audio with language and Main->Audio handling->Custom, than load your source and press the '+' in the audio tab.
If you want to only add stream x and y the quicktest way would probably be to set Main->Audio handling->Custom and add the streams manually.

Hybrid does not have some additional logic language that allows you to specify to only add e.g. "the third audio only if the 1st one is french and only add the first one if it's chinese". :)

Cu Selur

[DJ-1]

ok cool, just wondered.

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[DJ-1]

now that i have started looking at de-interlacing methods....
i have a small sample PAL 720X576 (interlaced) top field first 25fps., before i had the avisynth working i tried 'bob' mode.... it produces the best output so far in terms of getting rid of comb effects. however i would prefer to keep original frame-rates.
it outputs @ 50fps, plays fine... 1min source clip = normal speed.
After doing a quick test of QTGMC (slower preset) even, + bob....
outputs @ 50fps, mediainfo reports it as 1min duration, = plays back at double speed.?...puzzled. (is this normal?, or am i missing a setting, anothet step?)

im not even sure of the best ways of doing this stuff just yet.... :confused:

many thanks.

p. s:
pls forgive me if i as noob stuff on that topic, ive always previosly let auto-de-interlacing occur.


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[Selur]

There's a small display bug in the current version, it shows the QTGMC configuration even if QTGMC is not selected -> make sure you select QTGMC as Deinterlacer if you want to use it. :)
Other than that using QTGMC + bob should double the fps and the frame count, so the length should stay the same. (that's what a bobber is supposed to do)
-> just tested, if QTGMC is selected as Deinterlacer the output is sync here

[Selur]

Hybrid rev. 2013.01.04.1

*fixed*

extract: when extracting MPEG-4 ASP with mkvextract now .m4v extension instead of .avi
avisynth: dgindex created an unwanted audio file during .d2v creation
cosmetics: gui didn't show 'At crash play'-path

*changed*

avisynth: changed QTGMC@Fast to be the default deinterlacer when using avisynth
x264: Hybrids default qcomp value is now 0.5 instead of the normal 0.6
analyze: boosting tsprobe while analyzing transport streams
tags: extended tagging support (tags can also be imported and passed through from non-mkv files)

*added*

jobs: play buttons to play sound select to play on job finished/crashed and queue finished


-> downloads: http://www.selur.de/downloads

side note: updated a bunch of files in the Windows and Mac bundle

Cu Selur

[digitall.h]

Congratulation selur for a new improved Hybrid version.

I have a problem with subtitles colour.
The original subtitle letters are white with black border.
But after encoding with Hybrid they are grey with white border, and it does make them more difficult to be read.

Is there any adjustment in Hybrid to tweak subtitle colour?. I looked for it but didn't find any.
If there's no way to tweak subs colour, any advice on how to modify them to look like the original?.

:thanks:

[Selur]

What are you doing exactly? converting srt->ttxt? converting ass -> ttxt? passing through srt/ass/idx/... subtitles? hardcoding subtitles?
If you are passing through subtitles -> Hybrid shouldn't change anything.
If you are converting to ttxt -> If your input are srt subtitles: Hybrid doesn't have an option to specify the color of the subtitles. .srt subtitles do not have color infos, the color they are displayed in depends on the subtitle decoder. (I can probably write some code for it tomorrow or on Sunday) If your input subtitles are ass formated, the color should be transfered to ttxt. (if not I can look into it)
If you are embedding/hardcoding subtitles there is a bunch of options to overwrite/set colors.

Cu Selur

[digitall.h]

They are the original subtitles, just passed through.
And they are played in the same player, VLC, the original DVD (the files in the HDD) and the Hybrid encoded file.

I thought that just passing through shouldn't change anything, but colours are different.

[Selur]

If your are not hardcoding the subtitles Hybrid will, extract the subtitles using MPlayer (and create a idx/sub files) and than mux these subtitles with mp4box/mkvmerge depending on the output format you choose.
This should not change any information regarding the subtitles, especially since these are picture based subtitles,...
-> I really doubt that this is a bug in Hybrid, sounds more like this is due to some setting in VLC. :)

[digitall.h]

You're probably right.
It may be a problem in MPlayer (when extracting the subs), or VLC when playing them.
I don't think it's a setting in VLC, since I don't change anything, and some subs are shown correctly and others wrong, with same settings.
I don't have another h264 player.
I played it in Hybrid-preview subtitles, and they are shown as grey/light white with black border (better than in VLC)

[Selur]

My bet is on VLC. :)
I doubt that mplayer is even able to change the color or picture subtitles.
(not using VLC here; I use MPC-HC+Lav Filters+madVR or Windows and (S)MPlayer on Linux&Mac)

[pintcat]

Is it ok that Hybrid uses mencoder to decode videos even though I chose ffmpeg as preferred decoder? I was trying to convert a lossless utvideo (hd 720p) to x264 and the result was a complete mess. While ffmpeg is able to decode utvideo properly (build it myself :) ), I can't say anything about good old buggy mencoder, but I doubt it.

I'm using the latest Hybrid on Linux Debian 32bit