Hybrid: Input -> x264/x265/Xvid/VP8/VP9

[alter4]

Thx Selur!

I just gonna finish my current encoding activities (by the way thx for the great tool :-) then purge all hybrid settings and check again.

Edited: I purged settings and high4:4:4 value went out. So the bug sneaked up during update to recent versions.
I suppose somehow Hydrid doesn't delete old setting during update.
;)

[Selur]

Hybrid rev 2012.01.26.1:

*added*

subtitle: basic .ass styling support (use existing .ass files and overwrite some of the styling info); only basic support since I do not know much about .ass (got no complex examples&co; will do more if people want it and provide some samples)
subtitle: .ass muxing into mp4 support (subtitle will be coverted to ttxt)


*fixed*

subtitle: first internal subtitle stream was also embedded when an external one was embedded
x264: zone deletion did not directly update CL
x264: loading a profile with none@unrestricted caused an error
audio: don't resample on pcm extraction
vp8: progress bar indication during encoding


*changed*

audio: max delay from 5000ms -> 60000ms
general: removed close affirmation for 'jobs->on queue finished->close' even if 'Config->Internals->Handling->Warn on close' is enabled
extended handling of stretched audio&video streams from mkv sources
subtitle: libass is now always used when embedding text based subtitles
audio: adjusted calls to delaycut 1.4.3.5.7


-> downloads: http://www.selur.de/downloads

Cu Selur

[Selur]

Hybrid rev 2012.01.27.1:

*added*

x264: support for high222 and high444 profiles

*fixed*

subtitle: allow to change subcode even if 'embed subtitle' is not enabled (for preview)

*changed*

subtitle: ass->ttxt - remove unneeded TextSampleDescriptions

-> downloads: http://www.selur.de/downloads

Cu Selur

[Selur]

Hybrid rev 2012.01.31.1:

*added*

audio: flac -> compression level option
audio: 6.1->stereo/5.1 downmix

*changed*

subtitle: removed -nofontconfig from mplayer/mencoder calls
(+ windows installer: added fontconfig content to fonts folder)

*removed*

x264: 2pass crf: confuses people

-> downloads: http://www.selur.de/downloads

Cu Selur

[Selur]

I'm playing around with the idea of adding Avisynth file creation (using ffmpegsource2 and Directshowsource, later for vc1- interlaced only) and some filters to Hybrid. (windows only)
Since I personally haven't really used Avisynth a lot these last years (only use it from time to time for deinterlacing if yadif produces bad output) I was wondering:

What Avisynth filters do people miss in Avisynth?

Personally I only miss QTGMC, but implementing some basic script creating&co just for me and my QTGMC usage would be overkill.
-> some feedback would be nice :)

Cu Selur

[DJ-1]

I`ll give this 1 and another GUI a try,

Does this use Nero AAC+ ? as far as i know thats the latest, i usually use HDConvertox `just for audio` then MUX it all together....

as Vidcoder`s AAC isnt as good.

cheers.

[Selur]

in Hybrid you can choose between:
- NeroAacEnc which supports aac, aac-he and he-aacv2
- Qaac which supports aac, aac-he and he-aacv2
and
- libaac which supports aac-lc
(assuming you downloaded NeroAacEnc and extracted it into the Hybrid installation folder)

[DJ-1]

cheers,
Qaac ?, is that covered in the Nero AacEncoder....never heard of that 1, newest Nero aac format ?

[Selur]

There is no such thing as a 'Nero aac format' there's only a nero aac encoder -> http://www.nero.com/eng/downloads-nerodigital-nero-aac-codec.php
Qaac -> http://sites.google.com/site/qaacpage/ (needs Apple Application Support installed which comes with Quicktime/iTunes/Safari)

[DJ-1]

ok, cheers.

[Selur]

Hybrid rev.2012.02.15

*added*

audio: option to enable '--multi-threaded' for sox
filtering: experimental option to analyze input for interlacing


*fixed*

audio: dts-es accidentally detected as dts not dts-hd


*removed*

output: avi container support, since ffmpeg .avi muxing is broken (sets wrong frame rate, see: http://ffmpeg.org/trac/ffmpeg/ticket/978)


*changed*

audio: added '-analyzeduration 14M' when handling .flv files with ffmpeg


-> downloads: http://www.selur.de/downloads

Cu Selur

[DJ-1]

Hi, i havent had much chance to try it much, the basic x264 works ok. But whenever i set my own test profile for CUDA, its all applied etc, but i get a video conversion crash (something to do with ` no interlaced encoding support on main profile `) despite it not being selected in the profile being used....

confused.

Thanks.

Also on when using the CUDA prest default or custom, i can `add to queue`, but then the `start job` button does nothing.....

[Selur]

if that is not a debug output, I can't do anything with it.
Just tested it and over here the cuda encoder works without a problem.
(I assume you are aware that you need a cuda capable NVIDA card to use the cuda encoder,..)

[DJ-1]

Yeah, i got a CUDA graphics hardware....

[Selur]

Once a moderator approves the attachment or you upload it somewhere else where one can access the txt file I'll look at it. :)

[DJ-1]

ok, i just tried the `CUDA h264Hybrid default` (non-editable) profile, ignored audio, worked fine.

i just got the web installer when i got this, it installed as 64bit application, are there any issues with 64bit that you know of??
(as sometime 64bit is a bit hit n miss).

also i noticed when i tried to set a default output DIR + working folder, as soon as i exit the app, and restrart Hybrid, it doesnt retain the paths.... something doesnt seem right...

[Selur]

ok, i just tried the `CUDA h264Hybrid default` (non-editable) profile, ignored audio, worked fine.
Since you are not telling me what settings you used when Hybrid crashed I can't reproduce it.

also i noticed when i tried to set a default output DIR + working folder, as soon as i exit the app, and restrart Hybrid, it doesnt retain the paths.... something doesnt seem right...
sure it does not remember you settings, since you did not tell it to do so. If you want Hybrid to remember you settings in the Config-tag, save them as defaults:
Config->Save->select GlobalModel, hit 'Selected'

i just got the web installer when i got this, it installed as 64bit application, are there any issues with 64bit that you know of??
Nope, Hybrid is mainly developed on 64bit Win7 so I do most of my test on 64bit.

Cu Selur

[Chairman_Meow]

I'm having a problem re-encoding the audio mp3 stream to aac. I have neroaacenc in the \Hybrid folder but all I am allowed to do is passthru the audio. The video converts just fine to x264 in 1 pass and 2 pass, I just am not able to convert the audio. Anyone know what I'm doing wrong?

[DJ-1]

http://www.mediafire.com/?2m96o0apblimtvq

had to make new acc. since megaupload is no more...

[Selur]

@DJ-1: got the file will look at it :)
@Chairman_Meow: to encode mp3 -> aac
you have to:
1. set Main->Audio handling to custom
2. enable Audio->Reencode audio stream
3. configure the setting you want
4. hit Audio-> '+' for your selection to be added to the audio queue
-> no clue what you are doing

[DJ-1]

Since you are not telling me what settings you used when Hybrid crashed I can't reproduce it.

Sorry, i couldnt use my megaupload, got different acc. now... so the log is avaliable.

sure it does not remember you settings, since you did not tell it to do so. If you want Hybrid to remember you settings in the Config-tag, save them as defaults:
Config->Save->select GlobalModel, hit 'Selected'

ok, i see all those boxes but didnt know they were for the `app settings`... thought they were more for advanced profiles or summut, i should have looked closer.


Nope, Hybrid is mainly developed on 64bit Win7 so I do most of my test on 64bit.

Cu Selur

ok, cool.

[Chairman_Meow]

@Chairman_Meow: to encode mp3 -> aac
-> no clue what you are doing

That was quick. Thanks very much, missed the '+' step.

[Selur]

@DJ-1: what NVIDIA card are you using?

[DJ-1]

Geforce GTX260 (evga)

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[Selur]

The call:
"C:\Program Files\Hybrid\cuda.exe" --resolution 1920x1080 --bitrate 1349 --bitrate_peak 1350 --fps 30000/1001 --level 41 --showFrameStats 100 --frame_typ bottom --pquant_min 12 --bquant_min 15 --iquant_min 10 --sps_pps false --output "C:\Users\DJ-1\AppData\Local\Temp\DVD_1-2_16_24_40_921_04.264"
looks fine since --profile high and --deinterlace=false are default values
and I'm a bit baffled why you get
ERROR: Interlaced encoding is not allowed for baseline profile!
-> I'll compile some test versions and send you a link.

[DJ-1]

Yeah, especially while I check the settings, and interlaced encoding isn't set....

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[Selur]

Send you a pm with a link a my current development version of Hybrid, where I disabled to remove the defaults from the call + some a small guide how to enable the debug output.
If it crashed again send me the debug output.

Cu Selur

[DJ-1]

OK, cheers... on PS3 @ the moment but I'll try n do it a bit later...

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[Selur]

no problem, I'll look at it tomorrow then, if the problem still persists. :)

Cu Selur

[DJ-1]

Here you go m8, same source, same settings etc.....
and the same message near the bottom of the debug output.

Cheers.


http://www.mediafire.com/?e6gn30t47jmn341

P.S: just to be sure i tried my TMPGE Express (CUDA encoder) to make sure i didnt have anything wrong with Windows, its all ok. Probably has nothing to do with the problem, but thought I`d check.

[Selur]

Found the problem, the call does include the wrong frame type info -> I'll fix it (in a few hours and send you a working version)

[DJ-1]

Cheers. Also, can we select ffdshow as audio decoder?, as some of the. Older tv shows etc its nice to tweak the old 2ch audio to PLII.
Does it use dshow anyhow, or eac3to?, or other....
Cheers.

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[Selur]

Hybrid does not use DirectShowFilters or eac3to,.. here (http://www.selur.de/licence) is the list of tools Hybrid uses. (no eac3to no ffdshow)
2ch->PLII should be possible with sox, so if you find out how to do it with sox I can add the appropriate remix call and an option to use it to Hybrid.

[DJ-1]

erm ok, just had a look, i see the Sox.exe in the config->tools area, but after adding a source, i looked at the audio tab, lots of other places, but can`t see where to select `use-of` sox as a decoder... let alone see how its set up.

P.S: ah ok, just re-read ur post, (half asleep, LOL) assuming at the moment its non-visible within the GUI, a few selectable presets would be great...

:)

[Selur]

you have to use sox through the command line if you want to use something that is not offered by Hybrid atm.
Hybrid will automatically use sox whenever it needs to:
1. resample the sample rate of an audio stream
2. apply volume gain to an audio stream
3. stretch an audio stream
4. change the speed of an audio stream
5. normalize an audio stream

if you figure out the remix call needed for the conversion you want I can add it to Hybrid, http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=152034 and http://sox.sourceforge.net/sox.html might help you to understand how sow and it's remix parameter work.

Cu Selur

[DJ-1]

ok, cheers. had a long look at the threads, not entirely sure what the `0.xxxx, -0.xxxx` mean etc, so manty things to take into account....

[Selur]

Xv0.zzzz, Yv0.wwww
mean Channel X and Y are mixed and the volume of level X is multiplied by 0.zzzz and the volume of channel Y is multiplied by 0.wwww before the mixing.
http://sox.sourceforge.net/soxpng/grohtml-2109215.png source: sox manual (http://sox.sourceforge.net/sox.html) (negative numbers should invert the audio and adjust it's volume)

Cu Selur

[DJ-1]

ok, cheers for the fixed version. I just ran a quick test, the CUDA side is now running without issue, cheers.

As for the other audio stuff, I`m sort of understanding bit of it, but its all based off of downmixing, what I want is the opposite (just a nice 2CH to `center voices` + LFE, basicly a DPLII or 5.0+LFE), i dont have any idea how to use the info i see to tell me how I get audio that isnt formatted that way in the source file...

[Selur]

A dpl2 stereo signal is still a stereo 2 signal.
Normally I would be created by converting 3 (left, right, center) or more channels down to stereo while adding additional infos such that it is possible to recreate a virtual center from the two channels.
Problems is if you only have to channels, you can either leave them as they are or modify them in some way such that they contain some sort or virtual center channel info.
Since you wrote:
Also, can we select ffdshow as audio decoder?, as some of the. Older tv shows etc its nice to tweak the old 2ch audio to PLII
it sounded to me like ffdshow could to the transformation you want and probably would show some sort of upmix-matrix to do the trick. :)

Stereo -> 5.1 is not supported in Hybrid since afaik it would require a lot of temporal files (see: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1385573#post1385573) which I don't like. :)

Cu Selur

[DJ-1]

yeah, the option in ffdshow is `decode 2CH source material as DPLII`.

[Selur]

Okay, that option probably interprets every stereo source as if it were a DPL2 source. -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Pro_Logic it even shows the matrix http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Pro_Logic#Dolby_encoding_matrices
which should be something like:
FL = 1
FR = 2
FC = 1v0.707,2v0.707
LF = 0
RL = -1v0.872,2v0.489
RR = -1v0.489,2v0.872
I guess,..

Cu Selur

[DJ-1]

"1,2,3v0.707,4v0,5v0.872,6v0.489 2,v,3v0.707,4v0,6v0.489,5v0.872"

To be honest i dont know if thats somewhere near it, or nowhere close....

[Selur]

me neither, but I can tell you, that 1v without a value behind it doesn't make sense :) needs to be just 1, also the sum of all parts of a channel should sum up do 1. :)
+ your line needs 6 channel input atm. :)

[Selur]

Hybrid rew. 2012.02.21:

*fixed*

cuda: encoding problem
audio: audio extension problem
audio: a few audio pass-through related problems


-> downloads: http://www.selur.de/downloads

Cu Selur

[DJ-1]

I put the audio stuff on hold for a bit since i`m lost with it....

Query: I`ve only recently got a home server and before that I`d always use the PS3 for streaming stuff off of the PC, I wanted to convert old tv shows etc, but wanted a nice output Resolution so that i dont get all the extra zoom options on the player I.E: Zoom__>Zoom2__>full screen etc etc etc.

Purely by luck i found a resolution that seems to be a perfect fit, I.E: i just get "Original size"__>"Normal" only with no under/over-scan, nothing cropped....it fits the same as if a 720P would do (on a 1080P output)....original and Normal. But i cant find any reference to the 800x450 for 4:3 / 16:9 or whatever.

PS: the old stuff (SOURCE MATERIAL) I`m coverting at the moment is all PAL 4:3 720x576

[DJ-1]

when i use Vidcoder to convert videos it has an "ignore AR" button and just "anamorphic" as `None` --> output as 800x450.

mediainfo then shows the AR as 16:9 @800x450 .

but i cant seeem to replicate this in Hybrid at the moment, i always get black bars on the Left/Right....?

[Selur]

I'm unsure what you want,.. :)
assuming you got anamorphic input you can:
a. ignore that it is anamorphic by telling Hybrid to handle it as if it had a 1:1 PAR (change Crop/Resize->Pixel Aspect Ratio (PAR)->Input PAR to 1:1) and resize to whatever resolution you want
b. convert it to i.e. square pixel (change Crop/Resize->Pixel Aspect Ratio (PAR)->Convert output to PAR->Square Pixel) and resize to whatever resolution you want
c. crop and zoom it such that it fills the input resolution (Enable cropping + Crop To DAR)
Hybrid itself will one add black bars if 'Add borders to fit size' is enabled.
During playback it if or if not black bars are added mainly depends on how your playback device/player is set to handle the input (pan&scan, letterbox,...) if it has not the same resolution as you screen.

but i cant seeem to replicate this in Hybrid at the moment, i always get black bars on the Left/Right....?
Probably because your output PAR is not 1:1,...

Cu Selur

Ps.: you probably should read up on what Pixel Aspect Ratio (PAR) and Display Aspect Ratio (DAR) mean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixel_aspect_ratio) if you want to understand what is happening and why.

[DJ-1]

gonna give it a quick try now.
I dont think the PAR is anamorphic, its just PAL 4:3 720x576 (hybrid recognises source as PAR 1.067).

the idea is to simply have the new video playback naturally as a fullscreen image without relying on any media players handling of the content, why i`m doing the 4:3 AR conversion.

is 800x450 a`paricular` resolution?, its not just the PS3 thats happy with that Res, i also get a perfect 1:1 fit when played back on my xbmc media box.

[Selur]

hybrid recognises source as PAR 1.067
PAR != 1 -> anamorph, if you think this is wrong change the input PAR to 1:1

Assuming the source has no black bars you got an effective resolution of 768x576 if you convert the input to square pixel. Since the height is > 500 and the width is < 800 you need to crop&resize or distort the image (by resizing without caring about the aspect ratio).
-> Neither me nor Hybrid can make the choice for you either cut of some pixels (such that resizing will hit you resolution), live with the distortion or the black bars. There is no magic that will change the math behind this.

[DJ-1]

the source has got black bars left/right (4:3)

yep i know that I`ll have to crop etc to get to a resized resolution, but off of the DVD the `Original` content on all this older stuff is not centered etc, so cropping is ideal in this case is fine as I`m only getting rid of the rough edges of the video. (wich is probably why i end up at that particular res..)

tried the PAR 1:1 you suggested in the earlier post, same left right black bars on output