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djan
28th March 2004, 05:01
Originally posted by jdobbs
I always run in filemode. I guess I need to mount an image in Daemon tools and see what causes this. Just as an aside -- what is the advantage of mounting using Daemon tools instead of just copying using file mode? Hi,

The advantage is to have an ISO file instead to have a bunch of files. It's all. And ah yes, I often use ISO mode because in the case I would use DVDStripper to strip something later, I always can mount my ISO file. It's too bad that DVDStripper can't handle DVD's ripped in mode file. :( It's because it has to rip the DVD itself by cell-id.

djan
28th March 2004, 05:03
Originally posted by robot1
I've got for the first time the runtime error 9:
the source is an .iso mounted with daemon tools.
I had other backups ripping in filemode with no problem.

Do you rip in iso, or in file mode? Don't make it this way or try Alcohol. Try your movie in file mode. I was getting the error '9' when I was mounting my ISO's. Since I stopped making it this way, I no more got this error.

KungFuCow
28th March 2004, 05:13
Originally posted by jdobbs
Thanks. If that fixes the problems, I might have this fixed tomorrow.

After running Lost In Translation through IFOEdit using the paramters you asked me to use, I can happily report I now have a 100% fully functional CCE backup of this movie that is not undersized and does not have any FFWD/RWD issues, chapter skipping issues or any sort of blockiness/skipping on channel transitions.

Paced
28th March 2004, 05:28
Originally posted by KungFuCow
After running Lost In Translation through IFOEdit using the paramters you asked me to use, I can happily report I now have a 100% fully functional CCE backup of this movie that is not undersized and does not have any FFWD/RWD issues, chapter skipping issues or any sort of blockiness/skipping on channel transitions.

Good to hear :cool:

robot1
28th March 2004, 08:39
Originally posted by djan
Don't make it this way or try Alcohol. Try your movie in file mode. I was getting the error '9' when I was mounting my ISO's. Since I stopped making it this way, I no more got this error.
I do rip always in filemode. I was just trying to find why many pepole get the error '9'.
I've copied all the files in a dir, and now I'm launching the third phase of rebuild again. If it works, I can surely think that error '9' is related to the use of an image.

JvD
28th March 2004, 08:49
Not so robot1! I neever use images with this apps AND I get this message on some movies. So if you lookinf for the problem, look somewhere else. Jdobbs allready know the source of the problem.
"I can tell you exactly what causes it. It's when there is a very long stream of non-video packets and I get a buffer overrun. It's usually caused by a still frame. I'll fix it soon." (Jdobbs, page 9 i think)

robot1
28th March 2004, 09:07
Ok, I thought Jdobbs fixed the still issue, and I didn't notice any still in the film I'm backing up.

robot1
28th March 2004, 09:24
I can confirm it's not related to the use of a mounted image. With the same film, I get the same error in filemode.

Beer-chan
28th March 2004, 10:23
I'm getting this CCE 2.50 SP error message

AVIFileOpen("F:\TEMP\D2VAVS\ITEM.ECL") : According to the registry, the type of file specified in AVIFileOpen does not have a handler to process it.


after clicking on the Encode button with build 0.24 beta and build 0.25 beta. I no longer have the older builds but I do know that I did not have this problem on build 0.19 beta. I did update EclCCE to version 1.8 though so that may be the cause of it. I don't have a backup of an older build of EclCCE to verify.

The preparation stage was successfull, btw.

P3gasus
28th March 2004, 11:00
@robot1 and @JvD

Were the file you were ripping in file mode set as read-only? If so, try to change this setting. I know that dvd-rb does not modify vob files and so the problem should not be this one but in my opinion it's worth a try.

Bye

jdobbs
28th March 2004, 11:09
Originally posted by Beer-chan
I'm getting this CCE 2.50 SP error message


after clicking on the Encode button with build 0.24 beta and build 0.25 beta. I no longer have the older builds but I do know that I did not have this problem on build 0.19 beta. I did update EclCCE to version 1.8 though so that may be the cause of it. I don't have a backup of an older build of EclCCE to verify.

The preparation stage was successfull, btw. I did the same thing and got this error message -- I went back to eclCCE v.17b and it went away.

robot1
28th March 2004, 12:09
Originally posted by P3gasus
@robot1 and @JvD

Were the file you were ripping in file mode set as read-only? If so, try to change this setting. I know that dvd-rb does not modify vob files and so the problem should not be this one but in my opinion it's worth a try.

Bye

I get error 9 also with non write-protected files.

GreatDane
28th March 2004, 12:31
1. DVD-R Version: 0.25
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:
"Runtime 9".
Like many other I get the Runtime 9 error when VOB contains still. I've tested with mounted images, and with unprotected files in a folder.

I think that the author is doing a great job here, and I'm looking forward to the fix of this error, since it in many movies is a showstopper.

chadp1a
28th March 2004, 15:26
@jdobbs

Have you come up with a solution yet on the pixelation problems some are having?

jdobbs
28th March 2004, 15:35
Originally posted by chadp1a
@jdobbs

Have you come up with a solution yet on the pixelation problems some are having? If the info I got from KungFuCow is accurate I may be able to complete it today. I'll have to post before knowing, however, because I haven't been able to repeat the problem myself.

quantum
28th March 2004, 15:40
If there's something I can do to reproduce KungFuCow's steps or anything else that will help with debugging, let me know. I have an encoded disk and plenty of dvd-rw's and I have the pixelation problem on my Pioneer standalone. You can also email me for quicker response if debugging.

RB
28th March 2004, 16:10
Originally posted by Beer-chan
I'm getting this CCE 2.50 SP error message


after clicking on the Encode button with build 0.24 beta and build 0.25 beta. I no longer have the older builds but I do know that I did not have this problem on build 0.19 beta. I did update EclCCE to version 1.8 though so that may be the cause of it. I don't have a backup of an older build of EclCCE to verify.

The preparation stage was successfull, btw.
Doh. I obviously screwed something up. Let me check.

Oldeman
28th March 2004, 16:26
I have used DVD-RB with ReJig from version .15 until .25. I just got my first subscript out of range during rebuild using version .25.

Windows 98SE, AMD 750, 256Mb ram. Movie Runaway Jury.
I think I 'll go back and try it on .24.

Great program....Makes it easy...

jdobbs
28th March 2004, 18:44
Originally posted by quantum
If there's something I can do to reproduce KungFuCow's steps or anything else that will help with debugging, let me know. I have an encoded disk and plenty of dvd-rw's and I have the pixelation problem on my Pioneer standalone. You can also email me for quicker response if debugging. I found it. After several days of looking and scratching my head it turned out to be pretty simple. Frankly, from what I saw I'm surprised more people weren't experiencing this (including me)...

I should be posting v0.26 right after a little more testing.

quantum
28th March 2004, 18:48
Let me be the first to say, great news :)

acido
28th March 2004, 19:06
Originally posted by jdobbs
Can you try it with just "Correct VOB-Unit (NAVPACK.." and with "Adjust VOB-Unit pointer" and "Adjust Audio/Subp" checked in the VOB EXPERT area? [...CUT]

@jdobbs
Sorry to be late in testing the above, i see that you already found the error ( great new ! ) so i can only confirm that the steps you asked us to perform with IFOEDIT really solve the skipping and navigation problems. Waiting 0.26 ! :D
What is the status of the other major problems left : stills, multi PGC, multiangle and seameless branch support?
Do you think we are close to v.1? :)

DMagic1
28th March 2004, 19:48
Originally posted by jdobbs
I found it. After several days of looking and scratching my head it turned out to be pretty simple. Frankly, from what I saw I'm surprised more people weren't experiencing this (including me)...

I should be posting v0.26 right after a little more testing.

Very happy to hear that.

jdobbs
28th March 2004, 19:51
Originally posted by acido
@jdobbs
Sorry to be late in testing the above, i see that you already found the error ( great new ! ) so i can only confirm that the steps you asked us to perform with IFOEDIT really solve the skipping and navigation problems. Waiting 0.26 ! :D
What is the status of the other major problems left : stills, multi PGC, multiangle and seameless branch support?
Do you think we are close to v.1? :) Muli-PGCs work now, stills are in the near future, multiangle and seamless branching are probably a week out.

chilliman
28th March 2004, 20:46
I got No CCE path has been set message when i press encode button. i use DVD Rebuilder v0.25, EclCCE v1.7b with CCE v2.50 and CCE v2.67.00.23. anyone have got error ?

DirtyAbdul
28th March 2004, 20:56
Originally posted by chilliman
I got No CCE path has been set message when i press encode button. i use DVD Rebuilder v0.25, EclCCE v1.7b with CCE v2.50 and CCE v2.67.00.23. anyone have got error ?

chilliman, did you already "setup" rebuilder? menu "options/setup" -> that's where you tell RB where cce is located ;) . if you are working with eclcce, you need to point to eclcce.exe and NOT to the CCE executable (this is actually explained a few pages ago, i think).

DA

chilliman
28th March 2004, 21:11
Originally posted by DirtyAbdul
chilliman, did you already "setup" rebuilder? menu "options/setup" -> that's where you tell RB where cce is located ;) . if you are working with eclcce, you need to point to eclcce.exe and NOT to the CCE executable (this is actually explained a few pages ago, i think).

DA

I have already point RB to eclcce.exe and NOT to the CCE executable, but i still get No CCE path has been set message :mad:

robot1
28th March 2004, 21:21
Does eclcce works alone? (not in DVD-RB)

jdobbs
28th March 2004, 22:04
All,

Linked below is the latest update to DVD Rebuilder (v0.26) -- this one has some important fixes and enhancements included... so bug reports on any earlier versions will go unheeded. A summary of changes is provided below:

- Corrected an error that was causing skipping and pixelation at chapter points when fast-forwarding and rewinding through chapters. This fix may also correct other problems that may not have been as apparent related to chapter points and navigation. Much thanks to the beta testers for pointing me in the right direction on this one.

- The bitrate calculating algorithm can now examine the original allocation by Cell and assign bitrates to each cell consistent with that of the original DVD. This essentially uses the original DVD as a "first pass" and gives more bandwidth to cells that need it. This could (theoretically) result in better quality. This "dynamic" bitrate allocation can be enabled by selecting "Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates" from the "Modes" menu.

- Added a flag accessible through SETUP that lets you force encoders to be run in a minimized, no-focus state. This may-or-may-not work (depending upon versions) when using eclCCE as an interface with CCE.

- Fixed an issue in which a NAVPACK reference frame could be off by one when the next PICTURE_START_CODE begins on a sector boundary. Not sure what impact it might have, but I noted it when investigating the pixelation/jumping problem that some have said they experience.

- Fixed an overflow problem that is the source of at least some of runtime error '9's that have been received during the REBUILD phase of DVD-RB. Not the only one, though.

- Made a few other minor changes for efficiency.


Click here to download. (http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=466021)

kadilak
28th March 2004, 22:21
First of all, thank you jdobbs for putting in so much work on DVD-RB. This utility is the best thing I've ever seen and I'll be donating shortly.

Version 0.26 seems to fix every problem I was having, but I do have a quick question for you.

When DVD-RB calls CCE, if I take a look at task manager on my machine, DVD-RB is using about 25% of the processor, while CCE is using the other 75%. Is this normal? I would think (and I'm probably wrong), that DVD-RB is just waiting for CCE to finish executing, so it really shouldn't be using any CPU, should it? Unless it's doing something in the background.

Once again, thanks for all your hard work.

P3gasus
28th March 2004, 22:52
I selected to add the line about mpeg2dec in avs file pointing dvd-rb to the correct file (MPEG2Dec3dg.dll). But it will not add that line to the avs files, causing avs script not to work (unknown function mpeg2source). I think that this is a small bug.
Thanks jdobs for your hard work

EDIT: Obviously that anomalous behaviour was found using beta 0.26.

Beer-chan
28th March 2004, 22:57
Did you read DVD-RB's Readme file?

3. Next, you must have a copy of MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL installed on your computer.
At the Doom9 site, download DVD2AVI dg. It (at this writing) is contained in a
ZIP file DECODEFIX100.ZIP. Open that zip and within you will find a file called
MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL. Copy that file into a directory called "PlugIns" under the
AVISYNTH directory (created in step 1). Putting it there could save you lots
of possible headaches later!

P3gasus
28th March 2004, 23:07
I didn't read this because I thought that if you chose to add the mpeg2dec line in avs file you will not have to work about it. Maybe it's me, but I think it's a small bug because the avs line it's not in the avs file although you tell the program you want it there.
Anyway thank you for pointing me this passage of the manual.
Bye

quantum
28th March 2004, 23:11
Originally posted by jdobbs
- Corrected an error that was causing skipping and pixelation at chapter points when fast-forwarding and rewinding through chapters. The moment we've all been waiting for.. is it really fixed? I just rebuilt and burned a disk I already had encoded. I plopped the disk it in my Pioneer. Pressed the next chapter button, and... waited... and there was no pixelation or stuttering. Nice work jdobbs. You can put this one behind you. I noticed the RW and FW seemed much more responsive and accurate. I didn't realize before there were problems with it until I saw how it should work (on this movie).

KungFuCow
28th March 2004, 23:19
There was also major problems with chapter skipping as well. Fortunately the movie Ive been using for testing has some sequences that makes all this wierdness show up. Im re-encoding it now and gonna make sure all of its gone in this version.

quantum
28th March 2004, 23:26
What do you mean by chapter skipping? With the obvious pixelation and stuttering out of the way, I did notice one thing that seemed odd. I tried to rewind at a chapter point and it jumped forward to the next chapter. But this only happened on one chapter.

DMagic1
28th March 2004, 23:47
Originally posted by quantum
What do you mean by chapter skipping? With the obvious pixelation and stuttering out of the way, I did notice one thing that seemed odd. I tried to rewind at a chapter point and it jumped forward to the next chapter. But this only happened on one chapter.

Yes, no more pixelation problems.:)

I did notice that same chapter jump thing also.

jdobbs
28th March 2004, 23:53
Originally posted by kadilak
First of all, thank you jdobbs for putting in so much work on DVD-RB. This utility is the best thing I've ever seen and I'll be donating shortly.

Version 0.26 seems to fix every problem I was having, but I do have a quick question for you.

When DVD-RB calls CCE, if I take a look at task manager on my machine, DVD-RB is using about 25% of the processor, while CCE is using the other 75%. Is this normal? I would think (and I'm probably wrong), that DVD-RB is just waiting for CCE to finish executing, so it really shouldn't be using any CPU, should it? Unless it's doing something in the background.

Once again, thanks for all your hard work. Hmm.. that's a little unexpected, but would explain why some folks have reported CCE speeds that are a little low... I'll definitely look at that. All I really do is check for the CCE process to end.

jdobbs
29th March 2004, 00:13
@Kadilak,

I just ran a couple of tests, and on my system CCE is getting 99% of the processor...

jdobbs

jdobbs
29th March 2004, 00:25
Originally posted by quantum
What do you mean by chapter skipping? With the obvious pixelation and stuttering out of the way, I did notice one thing that seemed odd. I tried to rewind at a chapter point and it jumped forward to the next chapter. But this only happened on one chapter. Chapter jump? Hmmm... just when I thought I was done with that part. It will have to wait until I clean up the remaining runtime '9' problems -- which, by the way, was more than just stills. I just found the code that may be responsible.

robw
29th March 2004, 00:27
I agree, my system is running CCE at 98-99% CPU usage

version 0.26 is looking good here. One small issue. When I set up a batch process by first setting up a project including deselecting some audio streams I don't want (e.g. 2 Channel, director comments, etc.) and then later open the project, the audio streams are again selected. It looks like the audio stream info is not getting saved with the project.

jdobbs
29th March 2004, 00:28
Originally posted by robw
I agree, my system is running CCE at 98-99% CPU usage

version 0.26 is looking good here. One small issue. When I set up a batch process by first setting up a project including deselecting some audio streams I don't want (e.g. 2 Channel, director comments, etc.) and then later open the project, the audio streams are again selected. It looks like the audio stream info is not getting saved with the project. Uh oh. I knew there was something I'd forgotten to do when I released the batch code. Now I remember what it was.

Beer-chan
29th March 2004, 01:00
Originally posted by jdobbs
Hmm.. that's a little unexpected, but would explain why some folks have reported CCE speeds that are a little low... I'll definitely look at that. All I really do is check for the CCE process to end.
If the checking is in a loop that doesn't stop until the process ends, make sure the loop sleeps for a few milliseconds before checking the process again.

nwg
29th March 2004, 01:02
Jdobbs you have done a excellent job with this software.

I have dying to tell you what I think for the last few days. I have been use DVD RB since the first version. It took a couple of days to get it working properly but that was part of the fun with betas.

What are Stills? Are these photo galleries. The reason I ask, is I have managed to do Back to the Future which has photos with Rejig and CCE. However, it fails during building process after encoding with QuEnc (runtime error 5). The encoding is done successfully.

I have completed other DVD's successfully with QuEnc.

Well done.

jdobbs
29th March 2004, 01:11
@nwg,

Yep, photo galleries are a perfect example. Each still is an individual I frame. But more importantly for my program, it can be displayed for a long time with no additional video... that's what DVD-RB is having trouble with. I just need to fix it.

nwg
29th March 2004, 01:16
Thanks for the reply.

How can Rejig and CCE handle it on my setup then? It was the R2 version of the DVD.

jdobbs
29th March 2004, 01:20
Rejig doesn't surprise me, because it just transcodes. It worked with CCE?

KungFuCow
29th March 2004, 01:26
Interesting.. I just got a Run Time 9 error on Lost In Translation.. first time that's ever happened.

kadilak
29th March 2004, 01:30
Originally posted by jdobbs
@Kadilak,

I just ran a couple of tests, and on my system CCE is getting 99% of the processor...

jdobbs

Are you running an AMD or Intel Processor? I'm running a P4. Mabye it has something to do with hyper-threading?

CiViC
29th March 2004, 01:32
i tried working on The Lion King and Star Wars Episode 1 today, but both times CCESP 2.67 crashed when it tried encoding a 1 frame file... :(

*EDIT* I just read that DVD-RB can't handle these kinds of things just yet..sorry about the post then, i've been away from this kind of stuff for a while now, and just kind of stumbled upon this apparently amazing piece of software. It seems that I can finally backup my Alias Season 2 discs which were troublesome via the "big 3" method :)

KungFuCow
29th March 2004, 02:09
Run time error again.. This movie has NEVER done that with previous versions. Ive gone from :D to :(