DVD Rebuilder (CCE One-Click Beta) Bug Reports [Archive] - Page 13

jdobbs

1st April 2004, 01:39

Originally posted by jhmac
I have only noticed sound skips in chapter points only. Matchstick men has music that plays at most chapter points and you can really notice the skips then... Good luck and we are patently waiting for this fix... Well, I redid LOTR 2 hoping to catch another problem -- and hah! I now have an example of the sound glitch... It only happens on a couple chapters and it is hardly noticable, but it is definitely there...

robw

1st April 2004, 02:10

jdobbs

geez! next thing you know you'll claim to be seeing pixelation.

DMagic1

1st April 2004, 02:12

Stive

1st April 2004, 02:46

Originally posted by jdobbs
Well, I redid LOTR 2 hoping to catch another problem -- and hah! I now have an example of the sound glitch... It only happens on a couple chapters and it is hardly noticable, but it is definitely there...

I take it that you only experienced a sound glitch and not the stutter that I am experiencing at the chapters. Let me ask a stupid question...I have been a dvdshrink kind of guy for some time. I can't remember when the last time I received an error from Nero when trying to burn a shrunk dvd. However, I do receive errors when I try to strip out movie only with shrink at no compression, then dvdrb the movie...nero said it did not meet dvd compliant(etc,etc) and wanted to know if I wanted to burn anyway. Well, I said all that gooblyguck to say, would there be any value in comparing the shrink/dvdrb output to the plain dvdrb output to see if there is anything in there that is causing the chapter glitch? And if so, I would not have a clue how to do it, but would be more than willing to try if someone would help. Or do I just have a cheap dvd player.

jdobbs

1st April 2004, 02:52

Originally posted by Stive
I take it that you only experienced a sound glitch and not the stutter that I am experiencing at the chapters. Let me ask a stupid question...I have been a dvdshrink kind of guy for some time. I can't remember when the last time I received an error from Nero when trying to burn a shrunk dvd. However, I do receive errors when I try to strip out movie only with shrink at no compression, then dvdrb the movie...nero said it did not meet dvd compliant(etc,etc) and wanted to know if I wanted to burn anyway. Well, I said all that gooblyguck to say, would there be any value in comparing the shrink/dvdrb output to the plain dvdrb output to see if there is anything in there that is causing the chapter glitch? And if so, I would not have a clue how to do it, but would be more than willing to try if someone would help. Or do I just have a cheap dvd player. Have you tried it without the preprocessed stripping? If you throw DVD-RB a curveball it can easily strike out...

jdobbs

1st April 2004, 02:56

Originally posted by robw
jdobbs

geez! next thing you know you'll claim to be seeing pixelation. No. That part is history. The truth is I had a question anyway about the way I was doing something with audio, and when it seemed to work okay I left it. It should be fairly easy to fix... You'll notice if you do a DOS COMP of a DVD-RB VOB and one that has been run through IFOEDIT that there are differences. I just figured either was ok.

Stive

1st April 2004, 03:25

Originally posted by jdobbs
Have you tried it without the preprocessed stripping? If you throw DVD-RB a curveball it can easily strike out...

Yes...Sorry if I did not make my post very clear. I did both (untouched dvdrb and manipulated dvdshrink/dvdrb). I'm really not asking why it doesn't work with shrink. I know you're doing much more than most in developing and answering questions. But what I was trying to say is, I'm not smart enough yet to compare the two outputs (shrunk/dvdrb and untouched dvdrb) to see if something would highlight a chapter stutter, but perhaps someone could tell me how to do it or try it themselves.

Edit: I've done the ifoedit to no avail.

chadp1a

1st April 2004, 03:31

@jdobbs

You still haven't experienced the overflow error yet have you?

jdobbs

1st April 2004, 03:33

Nope.

jdobbs

1st April 2004, 03:36

Originally posted by Stive
I take it that you only experienced a sound glitch and not the stutter that I am experiencing at the chapters. Let me ask a stupid question...I have been a dvdshrink kind of guy for some time. I can't remember when the last time I received an error from Nero when trying to burn a shrunk dvd. However, I do receive errors when I try to strip out movie only with shrink at no compression, then dvdrb the movie...nero said it did not meet dvd compliant(etc,etc) and wanted to know if I wanted to burn anyway. Well, I said all that gooblyguck to say, would there be any value in comparing the shrink/dvdrb output to the plain dvdrb output to see if there is anything in there that is causing the chapter glitch? And if so, I would not have a clue how to do it, but would be more than willing to try if someone would help. Or do I just have a cheap dvd player. When I finish this product if has to play on every player -- cheap or not. I'm not going to quit until I clean it up.

One thing to note-: It may be the same problem. PC software often syncs off the audio instead of the video -- while it isn't typical, it's possible that a settop player could do that as well. If so, the audio glitch could be the source of your problem as well.

brikin

1st April 2004, 03:40

The Nero error is from the .BUP files not matching the .IFO files. I have this same problem.

Stive

1st April 2004, 03:41

Originally posted by jdobbs
When I finish this product if has to play on every player -- cheap or not. I'm not going to quit until I clean it up.

You're a good man (person) jdobbs and God bless you for it. I wish I could tell you something to help out. You don't think it would have anything to do with an AMD cpu do you? Probably not, anyway, I would be happy to tell you anything I can about my setup/system if needed.

Saw your edit to my previous post...so if it is out of sync from the audio, I probably should now retry the transcode with v28. I'll give it a go overnight. Thanks for all your had work.

brikin

1st April 2004, 03:51

I am having these stutter problems also. Here is some info that may or may not help. I was backing up Jerry Maguire Disc 1 which is only a movie with a 2.0 DD and 5.1 DD soundtracks. I used DVD Stripper to get rid of a few warning screens before running this through DVD Rebuilder. I am using Windows XP with an AMD 2400+ processer and a Asus mother board.

I encoded the movie using CCE 2.66 trial with the latest EclCCE. I also used the mode to use different bit rates for different cells.

Let me know if you need anything else.

Paced

1st April 2004, 03:54

I just experienced my very first 'Overflow' '6' error during the rebuilding phase.

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.28
2. Encoder being used: ReJig 0.5e
3. Using eclCCE? N
4. "Run-time '6' Overflow" (or something along those lines) during rebuilding.

The DVD was Minority Report (Disc 1) - PAL.

It's strange that it doesn't occur on the majority of my other DVDs, which turned out flawlessly. Keep up the great work jdobbs.

//Edit

Went back to DVD-RB 0.26, and I did not get the error (couldn't test with 0.27, I've somehow misplaced the file :().

Stive

1st April 2004, 03:54

Originally posted by brikin
I am having these stutter problems also. Here is some info that may or may not help. I was backing up Jerry Maguire Disc 1 which is only a movie with a 2.0 DD and 5.1 DD soundtracks. I used DVD Stripper to get rid of a few warning screens before running this through DVD Rebuilder. I am using Windows XP with an AMD 2400+ processer and a Asus mother board.

I encoded the movie using CCE 2.66 trial with the latest EclCCE. I also used the mode to use different bit rates for different cells.

Let me know if you need anything else.

Yikes...two AMD's...two stutters with CCE (mine stuttered with both 2.50 and 2.67 trial).

wakebrder

1st April 2004, 03:55

nero said it did not meet dvd compliant(etc,etc) and wanted to know if I wanted to burn anyway.

Try deleting the menu VOB (VIDEO_TS.VOB) Then Get VTS sectors with IFOEdit. I think the reason Nero is rejecting your project is that there is an empty menu VOB in your DVD.

Stive

1st April 2004, 03:56

Originally posted by wakebrder
Try deleting the menu VOB (VIDEO_TS.VOB) Then Get VTS sectors with IFOEdit. I think the reason Nero is rejecting your project is that there is an empty menu VOB in your DVD.

Thanks. Will do.

jdobbs

1st April 2004, 04:01

Originally posted by Stive
You're a good man (person) jdobbs and God bless you for it. I wish I could tell you something to help out. You don't think it would have anything to do with an AMD cpu do you? Probably not, anyway, I would be happy to tell you anything I can about my setup/system if needed.

Saw your edit to my previous post...so if it is out of sync from the audio, I probably should now retry the transcode with v28. I'll give it a go overnight. Thanks for all your had work. I don't think you'll see a difference with .28 -- wait for .29

jdobbs

1st April 2004, 04:06

Originally posted by Stive
Yikes...two AMD's...two stutters with CCE (mine stuttered with both 2.50 and 2.67 trial). Not a chance -- I have an AMD also. Trying to blame the processor would be like trying to say it is related to sunspots and phases of the moon. Of course then I'd be able to fix it by reading a few chicken bones I've thrown on a table...

Axlemar

1st April 2004, 04:12

Ever since .25 I have been getting an error 6 overflow during phase 3 (rebuild) that I didn't use to. If I run the same dvd that is giving me errors through dvdshrink at 99.7 quality and then use rebuild, I get no errors at all. Maybe you should look into using some of the corrective processes that dvdshrink uses? Thanks for the great program!

robw

1st April 2004, 04:18

Originally posted by Axlemar
Ever since .25 I have been getting an error 6 overflow during phase 3 (rebuild) that I didn't use to. If I run the same dvd that is giving me errors through dvdshrink at 99.7 quality and then use rebuild, I get no errors at all. Maybe you should look into using some of the corrective processes that dvdshrink uses? Thanks for the great program!

This clue has been mentioned before and I just wanted to mention that I have never had the overflow problem either. My workflow is to always run the DVD files through DVDremake where I strip out a few things typically - in this process the navigation stuff is recreated based on what is stripped. So something on the original DVDs is causing a problem.

jdobbs

1st April 2004, 04:23

Originally posted by Axlemar
Ever since .25 I have been getting an error 6 overflow during phase 3 (rebuild) that I didn't use to. If I run the same dvd that is giving me errors through dvdshrink at 99.7 quality and then use rebuild, I get no errors at all. Maybe you should look into using some of the corrective processes that dvdshrink uses? Thanks for the great program! I tried running DVD Shrink on my output to see what happened and it asked me for a non-existent VTS -- so I aborted that idea and went back to coding...

2COOL

1st April 2004, 04:23

Originally posted by robw
So something on the original DVDs is causing a problem. Yup! That's what my theory is. We all assume that the ripped files are authored perfectly and in compliance. One scenario is...what if the ripped files were badly in need of correcting sectors due to bad authoring and we processed the files without doing it through DVD-RB immediately? Just wondering since I don't know how DVD-RB's algorithm really works at the start. Doesn't the original IFO and BUPs just get copied over?

Kakashi Sensei

1st April 2004, 04:41

well i dont know if this helps i consistantly get the 0004 error on the backup i was doing for 28 days later. i forget where in the rebuild process it occurs but its somewere after the main movie. I think. I will try it again tonight and let you know Jdobbs. I'm not the only one who had a problem w/28 days later. So you have that DVD try it out.

kadilak

1st April 2004, 05:06

Originally posted by 2COOL
Yup! That's what my theory is. We all assume that the ripped files are authored perfectly and in compliance. One scenario is...what if the ripped files were badly in need of correcting sectors due to bad authoring and we processed the files without doing it through DVD-RB immediately? Just wondering since I don't know how DVD-RB's algorithm really works at the start. Doesn't the original IFO and BUPs just get copied over?

That being said, wouldn't a good test be for someone to run IfoEdit on the original VOBS and do a mock strip, then run DVD-RB on the supposedly corrected VOBS to see if the same problems appear? IE, the audio/picture stutter?

If no one else gets to this I'll do it tomorrow evening.

chadp1a

1st April 2004, 05:26

Originally posted by jdobbs
Nope.

Well, I tried the same title again using .28 but this time I ran the original thru CloneDVD first without any compression hoping that maybe something could be wrong with the regular rip.

During Phase III this time around I receive Error 9 'subscript out of range' instead of the usual Error 6 'Overflow'.

The Error 9 happens before I would normaly receive the Error 6 so I wasn't able experience whether the overflow error would exist.

2COOL

1st April 2004, 05:37

@chadp1a

Can you try it again using DVD Shrink? Just wondering if DVD Shrink has a better chance in corrections?

chadp1a

1st April 2004, 05:40

Originally posted by 2COOL
@chadp1a

Can you try it again using DVD Shrink? Just wondering if DVD Shrink has a better chance in corrections?

sure.. i'll post result soon

KungFuCow

1st April 2004, 05:43

Im actually encoding Bring It On Again for the third time, this time after running it through Shrink with a 99.7% compression ratio so hopefully I'll have an answer on this soon. In it's original form, I got Error #6 both times I encoded it.

What's interesting about this movie is that it also comes out WAY undersized. For the most part, Ive seen the sizing issues resolved yet for some reason, this movie always comes out about 700-900MB too small. The movie is very large on it's own so it does need reencoding, just for some reason, DVD-RB tends to go nuts on it and the size gets hosed.

Interestingly enough, on earlier versions of RB, I did not get Error #6. This just started with .27 on. Maybe I need to fedex this movie to JDobbs for him to play around with since it undersizes AND gives you Error #6.

ChickenMan

1st April 2004, 05:45

Originally posted by jdobbs
... I'd be able to fix it by reading a few chicken bones I've thrown on a table...
Ouch, thats gotta hurt :D

cm

robw

1st April 2004, 05:46

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Im actually encoding Bring It On Again for the third time, this time after running it through Shrink with a 99.7% compression ratio so hopefully I'll have an answer on this soon. In it's original form, I got Error #6 both times I encoded it.

What's interesting about this movie is that it also comes out WAY undersized. For the most part, Ive seen the sizing issues resolved yet for some reason, this movie always comes out about 700-900MB too small. The movie is very large on it's own so it does need reencoding, just for some reason, DVD-RB tends to go nuts on it and the size gets hosed.

Interestingly enough, on earlier versions of RB, I did not get Error #6. This just started with .27 on. Maybe I need to fedex this movie to JDobbs for him to play around with since it undersizes AND gives you Error #6.

great experiment. If it runs this time it should help a lot

ChickenMan

1st April 2004, 06:41

On a more serious note, I just got my first error today (been using RB very successfully since 0.15 with no errors or playback issues).

Title: A River Runs Through It - PAL R4(and R2)
CCE 2.50 + Eclcce 1.7b
RB ver 0.27 & 0.28

I'm getting the much reported Run-time error "9" - Subscript out of range error during the Prepare phase. There are 11 VTS's on this DVD (main movie is VTS 4). The error is produced as it starts on VTS 10, which is just one of the many small Trailers on the DVD, this one was for Bagdad Cafe. I ran the whole DVD through DVD Shrink at 99.7% compression and tried again. Same result. Also when I click the Error box OK, it shuts down and so does ReBuilder.

Do I have to wait for 0.29 (or 0.30 ) for this one ?

jdobbs, keep up the good work, this is THE best program to hit the scene in the past 12 months.

Cheers,
cm

chadp1a

1st April 2004, 06:46

Originally posted by 2COOL
@chadp1a

Can you try it again using DVD Shrink? Just wondering if DVD Shrink has a better chance in corrections?

Well after using DvdShrink I am back to just the Error 6 - Overflow

It's in the same position of Phase III.

So by using CloneDVD I got two errors and by using Shrink I got one.

:confused:

2COOL

1st April 2004, 06:58

Originally posted by ChickenMan
I'm getting the much reported Run-time error "9" - Subscript out of range error during the Prepare phase. There are 11 VTS's on this DVD (main movie is VTS 4). The error is produced as it starts on VTS 10, which is just one of the many small Trailers on the DVD, this one was for Bagdad Cafe. I ran the whole DVD through DVD Shrink at 99.7% compression and tried again. Same result. Also when I click the Error box OK, it shuts down and so does ReBuilder. That's sad to hear. If I had to go with my consistent working results with a few bad apples, using DVD Shrink prior worked on DVDs that errored out in the Rebuild stage. You're the first to report a Prepare stage error with DVD Shrink files. Hmmm...

Why is jdobbs having a very high success rate on the same DVDs some users are having problems with?

2COOL

1st April 2004, 07:02

Originally posted by chadp1a
Well after using DvdShrink I am back to just the Error 6 - Overflow

It's in the same position of Phase III.

So by using CloneDVD I got two errors and by using Shrink I got one.

:confused: You got me... :confused: :confused:

Instead of throwing my chicken bones on the table, I'll settle for reading the tarot cards.:p

Raymongo

1st April 2004, 09:08

Well After doing disney's dumbo, for the god knows how manyest time, i still get the Run-time error '6'overflow. I did the the workaround 2COOL asked me to do but unfortunatly it didn't work the error appeared at exactly the same point.

Will try now with version 0.28 and pry its gona work;)

KungFuCow

1st April 2004, 10:39

Here's one to make you go "hmmmmmmmm"

Bring It On Again, error 6 in .28 even after running the movie through DVD Shrink so I think we can rule out whatever is causing this DVD Shrink fixes.

Now for the kicker, reauthors fine in .26 :)

nimbles

1st April 2004, 12:33

ok i'm confused now :confused:

I've been trying to do Gladiator R2 (Dsic 1) for the past 2 days kept getting runtime error 6 when it came to rebuilding the files-

I orginally ran the VIDEO_TS folder through Title set blanker to remove the Dolby and DTS ads. Tried that first and got the run time error (must have been near the end because the VTS_01_0x series was complete, and the other series were all set to 10k by Titlesetblanker).

Then thinking titleset blanker had done something naughty to the file structure- re did it without running titleset blanker. Got the Same run time error 6 at like 90-odd% of the rebuild stage.

Then you released 0.28 and i tried it again (hoping the prob had been sorted) again having run the dvd through titlset blanker.

Once again failed at the rebuild stage.

Every time once it failed i thought the output file size looked about right (~4.31GB) so decided to play it in poweredvd- menus load fine and can access about 50% pf chapters through chapterselection, however picking later chapters sent me back to the menu. And if i used the mouse to drag the slider into the later 1/3 of the filem it would freeze.

Now on the last run time 6 error- i didn't delete it and tried rebuilding the file with 0.26 and guess what? it worked. Thought something was up with that and ran it through Powerdvd again- all chapters in chapter selection go where they're supposed to and slider works properly too. I'm a little worried that Its not ok to do this (start a project in 0.27/0.28 and finish it 0.26?), and also being a n00b i used the one click solution each time it failed, but then just chose rebuild in 0.26.

Haven't yet burned it to dvd to verify the stuttering issue in standalones that some on this thread have mentioned, but did Donie Brasco R2 before hand and it it didn't exhibit that effect when i played it through my xbox- will burn this & report back.

Hope this is helpful- jdobbs if u need any more info i'll try and note down all other things i can from the settings etc.

Thanks again jdobbs for this!!

p.s. is there anyway of upping the out put file size a little? say from 4.31 -> 4.37? I know its only 60mb :sly:

nwg

1st April 2004, 12:39

A few of us including me have already gone back to 026 for the same reason.

p.s. is there anyway of upping the out put file size a little? say from 4.31 -> 4.37? I know its only 60mb

That is too much. I get 4.33GB most of the time. Some DVD's may not be able to burn that much. My discs like 4.36GB max.

I would like the ability to choose a custom amount by a simple option box in the settings.

I use 4452MB (4.34GB) in the DVD Shrink program.

nimbles

1st April 2004, 13:15

Ok nwg, i take your point- i usually take it up to about 4.36~4.37GB Using Ritek G04 Discs- DVD-r limit is actually 4489 mb- although never taken it to that limit)

Ok took my copy of Donnie brasco to the folks standalone, Panasonic RV31, and i concur with what some of the people here have said to a point- stangely there was no such probs with my xbox. I wouldn't call it really a stutter, but at the chapter changeover there is very short pulse/click (just one) and is only noticeable when a chpater point is inserted in the middle of a continuous scene- there doesn't seem to be any probs when the chapter marks the end of one scene/beginning of the next.

I was too inept to use the big three method so have no method to compare it to.

wmansir

1st April 2004, 13:46

I use G04's and almost always burn 4.37GB and I haven't had a problem yet. I have heard of some players that don't like it, but usually it is cheap media.

Anyway, you can adjust the output size, starting with V.24:
- Added ability to adjust target DVD size. I've purposely not made this
easily available so I don't get complaints of 4 hour recodes that don't fit.
To use, just add TargetSectors=nnnn under the [Options] section of the
REBUILDER.INI file. As a reference the default for DVD-RB is 2236400 and the
maximum for a DVD-5 is 2297888. But remember there always should be a little
room left for margin of error.

This was updated in V.28:-Removed "TargetSectors=" value and replaced it with one for each of the three
encoders. Now use one or more of "CCETargetSectors=", "ReJigTargetSectors=", and
"QuEncTargetSectors=" -- please note that "TargetSectors=" will still work, but
any of the encoder specific settings will override it for that encoder.

nwg

1st April 2004, 14:04

I can't burn 4.37 to my DVD+ discs. Not everybody has DVD-.

What number would be around 4.35GB for the targetsector option?

robw

1st April 2004, 14:43

confirming that I got a buffer overflow error #0004 with version 0.28 during batch processing

lab-one

1st April 2004, 14:46

This may be a bit redundant but...

Title: Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003)

1. DVD-R Version: .28
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? 1.7
4. DVD Decrypter
4. Bug encountered: Error 6 "overflow". Occurred during rebuild phase.

Until now, I have been smooth sailing through most versions. No changes to my setup when running this through. Dropped in the disc and went to bed.

nimbles

1st April 2004, 14:47

thanks wmansir- i would assume you do a ratio- to work out what you can put on your dvd+/-r

dvd identifier and dvd decrypter also tell you how many sectors or on a blank disc- put the disc in and open one of them up and the no. of sectors should be on there, in the info.

dvd identifier also tells you what the full capacity of your disc is 4489mb for dvd-r, sorry i can't remember off the top of my head what it is for +r but i do know its slightly lower

chadp1a

1st April 2004, 14:50

The overflow error I keep getting starting with version .27 and up always occurs at the same position during the rebuild(phase iii) process.

That location happens to be a layer break.

Here is the AVS file RB creates if it helps at all.

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("G:\TEMP3\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(168997,168997)
ConvertToYUY2()
ResampleAudio(44100)