DVD Rebuilder (CCE One-Click Beta) Bug Reports

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by chadp1a
is there any other info i can provide to you that may help with isolating this overflow error? Not really. I already know where it's happening. It's the why that's driving me nuts.

[Stive]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Now that is a REAL coincidence... I have that one on my hard drive right now. Is it NTSC? CCE, ReJig, or QuEnc?

It is NTSC and using CCE2.50 with 1.7ecl.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Stive
It is NTSC and using CCE2.50 with 1.7ecl. It's running with CCE2.50 and ECL 1.7b as I type.

[2COOL]

@jdobbs

I have sort of an interesting workaround for some problem DVDs I had. Keep in mind that I tried this with ones that don't have multi-angles or interleaving. Anyways, I have been frustrated by getting alot of run-time errors, especially #6, afer processing freshly ripped DVDs through DVD-RB. I had a theory that probably the VOBs were messed up so instead of mock-stripping each titleset, I used DVD-Shrink to process the whole DVD at a custom ratio of 99.8%. I just click on root menu in tree-view and set it. I figure with little compression, DVD Shrink would apply minor corrections and at the same time, keeping my quality close to original.

I then processed my DVD-Shrink files through DVD-RB as usual and to my surprise, it completed to end with no errors. I have a higher success rate doing it this way even though it does add to backup time. Hmmmm...

Another observation I have encountered is that I did one DVD that had motion Title menus (not in menu VOBs but movie VOBs), and when DVD-RB had successfully processed it, my menu buttons are non-existent. :eek: Don't know if this has been brought up before but I think DVD-RB can't process these types of VOBs with buttons in them.
Update: Since I had enough room, I replaced my cell that supposed to have buttons in them with my original one using a registered MenuEdit.

If anyone would care to try this method out, let me know if it works or not. Ultimately, at the end, it would be all fixed but for the meantime if you're frustrated with numerous failed attempts with that one problematic DVD...

[Stive]

Originally posted by jdobbs
It's running with CCE2.50 and ECL 1.7b as I type.

I ran DVDRB.26 with default settings except, one-click, 4 pass, english, remove dts, dynamic, and suppress warnings. CCE2.50 was default (don't know if I did make changes that they would stay). Used DVDDecrypter321(?). Oh yes, I used the "dg" file in the plugins and had the box ticked in DVDRB.

[KungFuCow]

After testing "Dude, Where's My Car" R1 on my Liteon and Xbox DVD players, Im not seeing any sort of pixelation, stuttering, etc on chapter changes using .27.

[loosenut]

Originally posted by 2COOL
....I have a higher success rate doing it this way even though it does add to backup time. Hmmmm...
[/B]
Do you mean the workaround doesn't work in all cases?
I'm in R2 country, and subs are a plenty here, so a pass through Shrink beforehand to get rid of them is sometimes mandatory.

And on a subject (tiny bug) that existed in Shrink in the old days: IFOS don't get updated for removed audio streams, so it has to be done manually.(Footnote on the To-Do list?)

[Axlemar]

What causes the overflow error 6 problems? I notice that phase 3 (rebuild) can use anywhere from 200 to 800 megs of memory on my 1 gig machine. Would overflow most likely be caused from memory management problems with the rebuilder or from the encoding process doing something wrong?

[2COOL]

Originally posted by loosenut
Do you mean the workaround doesn't work in all cases?I sort of have to say that as a disclaimer because I don't have a stash of different DVDs for full testing. Even high use programs like DVD Shrink, Instantcopy, CloneDVD, DVD2One, etc... are not perfect and you will have to expect to have some problems with specific DVDs. ;) That's why I put out a request for anyone to give it try for further testing. Also, DVD-RB is still in beta stage.

[RB]

Originally posted by Trahald
top_cat.. this happened to me with 2.67 what the problem i found out to be was i had it set to 2.67 BASIC when i did the PREPARE step. when i changed it to the cce setting to cce 2.66+ it didnt help, but that was because the ecl files were already written for 2.67 basic. all i had to do was make sure 2.66+ was checked and redo the PREPARE step (also make sure add audio and converttoyuy2 is checked in avs options) and it worked fine after that
Well spotted, thanks a bunch, Trahald! I was really pulling my hair out about this one. I should probably put a sanity check on the ECL into EclCCE.

[emistral]

Following a problem I had recently (described in the other thread related to DVD Rebuilder), after preparing the VTSses, I pressed the encode button and this is the error code -I presume displayed- in the progressing gauge
V080000100001002

I have no idea what it means. When I press Encode, in the report window, I have the following messages:
"creating M2v ......"
This window displays lots of these messages and in less than 2s I have Phase II completed
According to my understanding, these messages would be normally displayed after CCE has completed its encoding process

I had the same problem in the previous version
My config now is:
DVD-R 0.28
CCE 2.5
EclCCE 1.8

I have found on the forum that Eclcce 1.8 might be bugged and needed to have its .INI file modified
So I added Debug=1 in the Eclcce ini file as suggested but it does not make any difference
I might try other reencoding tools unless jdobbs has any idea of what's going on
For the time being, after the preparation process, I opened manually CCE and loaded the rebuilder.ecl files
There is also another file named item.ecl
Should I also open it manually with CCE and reencode it ?

The DVD is Whale Rider,PAL version decrypted with the latest DVD Decryptor version.

[petesafool]

@TOP_CAT
My CCE 2.67 actually started encoding with your method but the whole process took under 5mins as I ended up with a load of AVISYNTH error shots for my M2V's.

So I tried something I normally do with the big 3 and all versions of CCE 2.6x: Just don't bother with ADDAUDIO() or RESAMPLE(). And it worked fine.


@RB / JDOBBS
I also ran, unaltered, the AVS's which were giving REBUILDER trouble through BATCHCCEW and they encoded 1st time. Don't know if this is significant or not.

@JDOBBS
I have a request }->
Would it be possible to batch process the M2V files through RESTREAM for example to set BFF before rebuilding? As a PAL user I find most 'jumpy' video issues are solved this way.

CCE never seems to set the BFF flag properly, but there are quiet a lot of M2Vs to do manually using your program so I am having to strip the video from a completed project and then add it back with IFOedit.

[RebelBZ]

This is my first time using DVD-RB & I tried to backup the
Transformers Season 1 R1 dvd.

No problems whatsoever with DVD-RB, however when I previewed the
result in PowerDVD, I'm getting black & white lines in spots where
there is motion. (Combing effect ?)

Is there a setting somewhere in DVD-RB that I missed ?

My setup :

DVD-RB 0.26
CCE Trial 2.67
eclCCE 1.8

Thanks.

[Top_Cat]

Originally posted by petesafool
@TOP_CAT
My CCE 2.67 actually started encoding with your method but the whole process took under 5mins as I ended up with a load of AVISYNTH error shots for my M2V's.

So I tried something I normally do with the big 3 and all versions of CCE 2.6x: Just don't bother with ADDAUDIO() or RESAMPLE(). And it worked fine.



Still can't find out why its not working. I will try unselecting ADDAUDIO and RESAMPLE AUDIO from the AVS options and see if that helps. Will give it a try now and let you know the results.

Thanks

[Top_Cat]

Well I tried what was suggested and that did not help. It went through all the steps like:
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 00
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 01
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 02
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 03
etc...
Total time was approximately 10minutes (maybe I read it wrong before when I thought it was an hour).

Again it has not encoded the film but no error messages were displayed.

Also a a side point it shuts down my PC after it finished. I have ensured the option in CCE is not ticked that says "shut down my computer when finished encoding" Anyone know if there is another tickbox I need to uncheck as it is very annoying to have the PC shut down like that.

Any idea's? I'll give it one last go and if I still have no luck then I think I will go back to Shrink for a while.

Thanks,

[himan2001]

@JDOBBS

Please take a look in this Thread ;-)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73635

Himan

[onesoul]

Hi himan2001, you should post here (too scared by the size of the thread? ;)). That's why the dvd-rb threads exist. I bet you'll get better feedback.

[lrosado]

I tried out this great software but one little hiccup when processing, As it was doing the main movie, I think, it gave me a "runtime error 6". and the process went to a halt

[paulers]

I processed Pokemon 4ever and I got a runtime error 6 "Overflow" during the rebuilding process.

using DVDrb .27 and CCE 2.5

[tf]

I just did "Returner" (PAL, R2) with 0.27, cce 2.50 and eclcce 1.7b. The result was pretty much unusable, and this is the first failure I've ever had with DVD-RB.

All processes complete without errors, and the result plays ok in PowerDVD, but not in any of my standalones. Let me be specific:

It will simply freeze at certain chapter changes. Like from chapter 2 to 3, it will freeze. I then press "BACK" and it will play from chapter 3 ok. But it happens again at chapter 10 to 11, 13 to 14, etc. almost seemingly at random points.

Also, nero still reports the output as being non-dvd compliant, but that hasn't been a problem with previous versions.

I know that this problem sound a lot like the one others have had with older versions, but it puzzles me that 0.27 suddenly gives me this. Wasn't it supposedly fixed by now?

Anyway, I'll do another movie and see if it is just this one that experiences the problem.

-tf

[RB]

New EclCCE 1.8a available:

31/03/2004 v1.8a

- Fixed: Cancel button could not be hidden via command line or INI
option for CCE-SP 2.50/2.62/2.64.

- Fixed: under rare circumstances, CCE unexpectedly closed when
loading or saving ECL.

- Added: Fix for "invisible CCE window" issue with CCE-SP versions
prior to 2.67.00.12 (see CCE-SP HISTORY.TXT).

- Added: sanity check on ECL files to display a reasonable error
message when trying to load an unsupported ECL format (CCE Basic).

- Added: -hideshutdown command line option. Global option to hide the
Shutdown checkbox in progress dialog, press Ctrl-Shift-S to
hide/unhide at any time.
Note this doesn't "fix" the incompatibility with CCE-SP 2.50 when used by DVD-RB, waiting for the fix from jdobbs :)

@Top_Cat:
Try this version. Don't check "Run Encoders minimized" in DVD-RB so you can better see what's going on.

[GooglyBear]

I'm going back to .26 for now.. I too got the '9' overflow bug..
I already made a succesful backup of Pitch Black Unrated using .26, but since it was among my first tests I only used 1 pass or 2 pass.. so since I haven't been getting any trouble lately I re-ran it using .27 with 5 pass and yup, when I woke up I had the error 9.. the bad part is it took well over 24 hours (real world hours, not from beginning to end) for me to encode it using 5 pass on my strongest system, lol

I kicked it off at 10 am when I went to sleep at midnight it was still at 75% :P

I think I'll wait for .28 or just go back to .26 for now :) since no real major changes happened between .26-.27

..btw to everyone, do you guys have sample files you encode or do you encode full dvd's? My systems take 15+ hours and it drains my spirit to see errors at the end of such long runs.. what do you guys do? Surely you must have some custom small dvd's you encode to test this thing or something..

[tf]

Well a 1-2 pass encode takes about 1½ hour for a movie here, so it's not that big a problem (3ghz p4, cce 2.50). But I usually do 5-6 passes.

-tf

[mikegun]

Originally posted by tf
Well a 1-2 pass encode takes about 1½ hour for a movie here, so it's not that big a problem (3ghz p4, cce 2.50). But I usually do 5-6 passes.

-tf

I remember reading that the quality could suffer doing more than 4 passes ?!?

regards,

mikegun

[robw]

I think I'll wait for .28 or just go back to .26 for now since no real major changes happened between .26-.27

@GooglyBear
read jdobbs caution 6th post on page 28. going back to version .26 may not be such a good idea

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by emistral
Following a problem I had recently (described in the other thread related to DVD Rebuilder), after preparing the VTSses, I pressed the encode button and this is the error code -I presume displayed- in the progressing gauge
V080000100001002

I have no idea what it means. When I press Encode, in the report window, I have the following messages:
"creating M2v ......"
This window displays lots of these messages and in less than 2s I have Phase II completed
According to my understanding, these messages would be normally displayed after CCE has completed its encoding process

I had the same problem in the previous version
My config now is:
DVD-R 0.28
CCE 2.5
EclCCE 1.8

I have found on the forum that Eclcce 1.8 might be bugged and needed to have its .INI file modified
So I added Debug=1 in the Eclcce ini file as suggested but it does not make any difference
I might try other reencoding tools unless jdobbs has any idea of what's going on
For the time being, after the preparation process, I opened manually CCE and loaded the rebuilder.ecl files
There is also another file named item.ecl
Should I also open it manually with CCE and reencode it ?

The DVD is Whale Rider,PAL version decrypted with the latest DVD Decryptor version. That's not an error code. It is a file name. It's documented somewhere in the 10,000 pages of combines threads on this.

[nwg]

robw wrote,
ready jdobbs caution 6th post on page 28. going back to version .26 may not be such a good idea

I am using 026 just fine. I haven't completed a DVD at all with 027 due to the runtime error 6 on every DVD.

[robw]

jdobbs

it would significantly speed up debugging if we could encode a smaller DVD as an initial test for a release. Your sanity check prevents DVDrb running on small DVDs. Could you set a switch to turn on/off the sanity check (perhaps in the ini file to prevent inadvertent use)?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by himan2001
@JDOBBS

Please take a look in this Thread ;-)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73635

Himan If I make this method so complicated that people have to get a PhD to use it -- what's the point? I will look at your settings and see what makes sense. But I could spend the rest of my life debating the best CCE settings. It's like religion.

[lrosado]

JDOBBS, what about the runtime error 6 overflow error, what do you think it could be?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by lrosado
JDOBBS, what about the runtime error 6 overflow error, what do you think it could be? I don't have a clue. It would be a lot easier if I could make it happon on my system. I just keep rolling out DVD after DVD and can't repeat most of these errors...

[r6d2]

@jdobbs, at what time do you eat/sleep? :D

You are improving your tool, giving support, hearing suggestions, testing for bugs... Gee, either you have a clone army with you, or you have the gift of ubiquity. :)

[lrosado]

JDOBBS, is there an error log that the program creates or a debug version you can give out to try to get you as much information as you need to pinpoint where the problem lies. The DVD I tried it with was Texas Chainsaw Massacre

[loosenut]

Originally posted by 2COOL


I have sort of an interesting workaround for some problem DVDs I had. Keep in mind that I tried this with ones that don't have multi-angles or interleaving. Anyways, I have been frustrated by getting alot of run-time errors, especially #6, afer processing freshly ripped DVDs through DVD-RB. I had a theory that probably the VOBs were messed up so instead of mock-stripping each titleset, I used DVD-Shrink to process the whole DVD at a custom ratio of 99.8%. I just click on root menu in tree-view and set it. I figure with little compression, DVD Shrink would apply minor corrections and at the same time, keeping my quality close to original.

I confirmed 2COOL's finding!!!!.
Beyond Borders, R1.
Done with RD 0.27, CCE 2.50. Audio stutters on chapter points on standalone.
Took resulted files through DVDShrink at 99.8%, no more audio stutters!!!!
Unfortunately, 1st chapter freezes and goes to second chapter, on a Philips standalone, on both cases (I mean, as usual) :(.

[robw]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I just keep rolling out DVD after DVD and can't repeat most of these errors...

same here

[KungFuCow]

@Loosenut, have you tried running the final output through IFOEdit to see if that cures the problems?

[robw]

Originally posted by jdobbs
If I make this method so complicated that people have to get a PhD to use it -- what's the point? I will look at your settings and see what makes sense. But I could spend the rest of my life debating the best CCE settings. It's like religion.

just a suggestion that I think will be appreciated by a maximum audience. Have a second 'ini' file. Perhaps called CCEprocess.ini - in that file place all the CCE options and let the power user change them if desired. If the ini file is not in the directory, create it. The 'typical' user will not need to go to this file.

[kadilak]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
@Loosenut, have you tried running the final output through IFOEdit to see if that cures the problems?

Forgive my ignorance, but what do you need to do in IfoEdit normally to fix this type of problem?

[loosenut]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
@Loosenut, have you tried running the final output through IFOEdit to see if that cures the problems?

This particular DVD, no, I haven't. I had tried it on "Rundown", even before this post:

Originally posted by Stive
Grrrrrrrr......I have finished the ifoedit and burned the dvd, but still have the studder at chapter points. Any suggestions?

and it didn't work. But I was under "newbie probation" at the time, so I could not post.
Plus, I had all those #0003 and #0004 errors with 0.27, so by the time "Beyond Borders" succeeded in finishing, I also saw 2COOL's posting and gave it a try. And a burn. It's faster anyway.
P.S.
DVDShrink before for #000x errors and DVDShrink after for audio studders.... there MUST be something hidden there to give jdobbs a clue.
@kadilak:
KungFuCow refers to 'mock stripping'the vobs.

[2COOL]

@loosenut

Originally posted by loosenut
I confirmed 2COOL's finding!!!!.
Beyond Borders, R1.Thanks for the feedbacks! :)

@all

If you need to read my post on this matter, it's on page 28. ;)

[Raymongo]

I reported yesterday the runtime '6' error on Disney's dumbo which occoured with version 0.27 now i did the whole process all over again from start. But still the error occours and it does not with V 0.26 but there the #0004 error ocours.

error '6' occours in VTS1 and
error #0004 occours in VTS3

[2COOL]

Originally posted by Raymongo
I reported yesterday the runtime '6' error on Disney's dumbo which occoured with version 0.27 now i did the whole process all over again from start. But still the error occours and it does not with V 0.26 but there the #0004 error ocours.

error '6' occours in VTS1 and
error #0004 occours in VTS3 Raymongo...can you test my workaround post on your problematic DVD? If it works for you, I hope jdobbs can use this feedback on hopefully squashing the error bugs. ;)

[DMagic1]

I thought all problems with chapter points were gone. I made two movies backups, Training Day and Tombstone. These seemed to be perfect.

I saw another persons post about sound skips and pixelation but hadnt seen any of this since it was fixed in v.026.

Today I tested these two movies on my Sony and Pioneer again just to be sure.
I can confirm that the sound skip is there. You have to listen closely. It seems to be a lot worse in some movies compared to others. Tombstones skips were very noticeable, were as Training Day seems to only have it at a few chapters. I also saw some very quick pixelation in Tombstone. Nowhere near the amount that we were seeing before v0.26.

I think the sound problems show most when there is sound at the end of one chapter that continues into the next chapter.
Example:
In Tombstone one of the bad guys is looking off into the distance as the trains whistle starts. The next chapter shows the train with the whistle still blowing. You can hear the skip in the trains whistle as the chapter changes.

[brikin]

My backup that I made with 0.27 and CCE built fine. When I play in on my Sony DVD player there is a little stuttering every so ofthen then when chapter 2 is hit the picture freezes and the timer keeps counting down. When I play the same DVD in my Panasonic DVD player is stutters every so often then stutters on the chapter point but keeps playing. I did 2 passes and used the dynamically assign cell bitrates mode.

[2COOL]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I don't have a clue. It would be a lot easier if I could make it happon on my system. I just keep rolling out DVD after DVD and can't repeat most of these errors... Perhaps, you can give us your system and software specs and hopefully, someone has the same setup as you and has encountered a problematic DVD for you to test on. ;) If you have posted it somewhere, I may have overlooked it. Reading alot of posts can be very tiring, especially in the wee morning hours.

[DMagic1]

Also, in Tombstone the sound goes out of sync, then stops completely in the first chapter then comes back in at the second chapter.

This happens even with PowerDVD. It seems that the sound skip can be heard with PowerDVD also.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by r6d2
@jdobbs, at what time do you eat/sleep? :D

You are improving your tool, giving support, hearing suggestions, testing for bugs... Gee, either you have a clone army with you, or you have the gift of ubiquity. :) I give it my best shot -- but I have to admit I'm getting burned out a little. "ubiquity" -- I love a good vocabulary.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DMagic1
I think the sound problems show most when there is sound at the end of one chapter that continues into the next chapter.
Example:
In Tombstone one of the bad guys is looking off into the distance as the trains whistle starts. The next chapter shows the train with the whistle still blowing. You can hear the skip in the trains whistle as the chapter changes. Now that's a good clue. Do the sound skips only happen at chapter breaks?

[jhmac]

I have only noticed sound skips in chapter points only. Matchstick men has music that plays at most chapter points and you can really notice the skips then... Good luck and we are patently waiting for this fix...

[jdobbs]

Ok -- don't look for me for a while -- I am going to start putting in one DVD after another until I repeat errors 0004 and overflow '6'. If I can repeat it I can fix it.