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RB
24th March 2004, 11:00
Originally posted by Purplered
this is what i get every time i want to use RB

http://membres.lycos.fr/ch402/err9.jpg

Purplered
Finding Nemo R2/PAL has multiple angles. As jdobbs stated multiple times, this is not yet supported.

gvittoz
24th March 2004, 11:07
thanks for the answer (very quick)
I installed Avisynth normaly in C: programes files
how I have to do

jdobbs
24th March 2004, 11:09
Originally posted by broken_bricks
Downloaded version 0.23 and still getting the same problem as below, anyone have any idea what it could be.
This is from a homemade 2 Disc DVD-R of a concert that I want to convert to 1 DVD-R with menu.
I extracted both discs renamed the VOB's and used VOBedit to join clips. I then used IFOedit and did the "Get VTS Sectors"

I know this worked because I used Intervideo DVD Copy and it worked and saved the menu's etc...

Any ideas or suggestions why I am getting the "Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer" - seems to happen when it is in the updating ifo, stage if that makes sense.

Thanks. As I recall this means there is an error in which the IFO is referencing a VOBID/CELLID that does not exist.

acido
24th March 2004, 11:18
Originally posted by hypo20
@jdobbs

It was not to you. :) It was to ACIDO.
This is not about crediting me or someone else. But when someone just copy and paste someone else's post (or it's main part) and then publish it as his own....that's what I'm not accepting.

But this is off-topic. :) Let's test new version of YOUR baby. :D

If you read my original post carefully ...
I have NOT TOLD "I SOLVED THE PROBLEM" but "PROBLEM WAS SOLVED by" and i pointed also to the specific SKIPPING CHAPTERS one.
You have the ownership of the post but was unclear what it was useful for, i don't want to take any kind of credits, i just only want DVD-RB to be fully functional.
Your post really helped me to create a perfect backup, glad this let jdobbs discover the problem inside navpacks.
So ... peace,i owe you a beer ;-)
Ciao.

gvittoz
24th March 2004, 11:19
Originally posted by RB
Finding Nemo R2/PAL has multiple angles. As jdobbs stated multiple times, this is not yet supported.

This is the same error
but I've got just one angle also why ???

petesafool
24th March 2004, 12:12
Don't know if it will help anyone but...

Early on when using v0.15 i was getting a lot of hangs and errors from CCE & DVD-RB (as well as those damn multiple .ecl windows :). Anyway I noticed my Norton Antivirus 2004 (SystemWorks installation) was waiting for a scan of my DVD files. Turning it off before running DVD-RB got rid of the problem.

I mention it because because Norton also seems to screw up other things on my system unless it's turned off:

* VOB InstantDisc v6.5, it crashes and restarts the PC every time I burn a DVD - although the DVD is burned properly so it's not too bad.
* Sometimes takes explorer multiple attempts at copying and pasting data files from a CD/DVD while Norton 'requests' scans.

@hypo20
Could I have a little clarification on 'Everything other you should leave as it is' in the IFOedit fix please. That means leave 'strip streams checked'? As my DVD-RB'd Pirates of the Caribean still lists the multiple audios and IFOedit unchecks them. Am I just running this to correct the IFO/BUPs?

gvittoz
24th March 2004, 13:28
Thank you for the answer
I tried but it's not that
I'm just sorry I don't speak english very well

Pedro Gouveia
24th March 2004, 13:44
Jdobbs! Hi again. After analysing a VOB created by RB and the same VOB corrected by ifo edit, there seem to be an error on some of the navigation packs.
The "offset to audio packet for audio stream X" is pointing to the "right AC3-Audio Pack"+1.

In my case the first wrong Nav Pack was the second one in the VOB

Hope this helps

brikin
24th March 2004, 13:59
I know everyone is getting the 9 error but has anyone got the 5 error?

DVD Rebuilder v0.23
QuEnc 0.43

Problem:
When I press Rebuild I get a "Run Time error '5' Invalid procedure call or argument error" that closes the program down.

I see the progress bar go up for VTS_01_00.VOB to 100% then it flips to VTS_03_01.VOB really quick and throws this error. This all happens within 3 seconds of pushing the button. In the status window I see

Copying IFO, BUP, and menu files...
Processing VTS_01
Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1

Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks for the tool

jdobbs
24th March 2004, 14:16
Originally posted by acido
If you read my original post carefully ...
I have NOT TOLD "I SOLVED THE PROBLEM" but "PROBLEM WAS SOLVED by" and i pointed also to the specific SKIPPING CHAPTERS one.
You have the ownership of the post but was unclear what it was useful for, i don't want to take any kind of credits, i just only want DVD-RB to be fully functional.
Your post really helped me to create a perfect backup, glad this let jdobbs discover the problem inside navpacks.
So ... peace,i owe you a beer ;-)
Ciao. If you're handing out beers... :cool:

jdobbs
24th March 2004, 14:42
Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
Jdobbs! Hi again. After analysing a VOB created by RB and the same VOB corrected by ifo edit, there seem to be an error on some of the navigation packs.
The "offset to audio packet for audio stream X" is pointing to the "right AC3-Audio Pack"+1.

In my case the first wrong Nav Pack was the second one in the VOB

Hope this helps Good feedback. I just changed the algorithm for that in version .22 -- is your check against version .22 or .23?

redfive19
24th March 2004, 14:51
My only bug so far with the app is the interlaced problem we've discussed in the other monster thread. Seems like whenever I encode a DVD, I get a jagged picture (but not as bad as if I had an interlaced still). People's arms look like they are almost shadowed or have trails. This happened when encoding two interlaced DVD's. The source is TFF and the final product is as well. I did not experience such a problem with a progressive frame DVD.

RB .021 (trying .23 now)
CCE 2.67.00.23 (trying 2.50 now)

Otherwise, this app is tremendous. I'd be willing to pay another $30 for it once it's final (I already donated $10!). This is exactly what I've been waiting for! It worked on my Total Training For Adobe After Effects 6 DVD that the BIG3 couldn't get right and that looks like crap when I run it out of DVDShrink (it's nearly 7.5 gigs). Once this interlacing issue gets worked out, I am going to backup all of my Total Training DVD's since they were super expensive and a big investment.

thank you jdobbs, you're a DVD GOD!
-redfive

p.s. - I don't know if it's legal or not, but I will send you (through snail mail) the dvd I backed up so you can see the issues I've run into. It's sort of hard to explain here and I can't take a screenshot of it since the problem only exists on a TV.

acido
24th March 2004, 16:09
Originally posted by jdobbs
If you're handing out beers... :cool:

No beer can thankyou enough!
:D

hypo20
24th March 2004, 16:43
Originally posted by acido
If you read my original post carefully ...
I have NOT TOLD "I SOLVED THE PROBLEM" but "PROBLEM WAS SOLVED by" and i pointed also to the specific SKIPPING CHAPTERS one.
You have the ownership of the post but was unclear what it was useful for, i don't want to take any kind of credits, i just only want DVD-RB to be fully functional.
Your post really helped me to create a perfect backup, glad this let jdobbs discover the problem inside navpacks.
So ... peace,i owe you a beer ;-)
Ciao.

PEACE. :) We all want this baby done. :) You's don't owe me nothing. Sorry. :)

hypo20
24th March 2004, 16:46
Originally posted by petesafool
@hypo20
Could I have a little clarification on 'Everything other you should leave as it is' in the IFOedit fix please. That means leave 'strip streams checked'? As my DVD-RB'd Pirates of the Caribean still lists the multiple audios and IFOedit unchecks them. Am I just running this to correct the IFO/BUPs?

Sorry, my mistake. In thet section, where REBUILD NAV-PACKS and so on...leave everything unchecked except these two things I wrote. On the right side of the screen, it's up to you if you want to remove USER PRHIBITED OPERATIONS and so on, so this is up to you. :)

Hope it helps.

jdobbs
24th March 2004, 17:09
Originally posted by hypo20
Sorry, my mistake. In thet section, where REBUILD NAV-PACKS and so on...leave everything unchecked except these two things I wrote. On the right side of the screen, it's up to you if you want to remove USER PRHIBITED OPERATIONS and so on, so this is up to you. :)

Hope it helps. This will be fixed tonight and you won't have to do it anymore...

gvittoz
24th March 2004, 17:11
anyone know something for my problem ???

broken_bricks
24th March 2004, 17:27
Is there anything I can do to fix this or stop this from happening?

Thanks.

Originally posted by jdobbs
As I recall this means there is an error in which the IFO is referencing a VOBID/CELLID that does not exist.

Oldeman
24th March 2004, 18:03
Is the final DVD size target determined before you deselect audio streams?

It seems to me, that whenever I drop an audio stream via unchecking it on the DVD-RB menu, the DVD is undersized by the amount of the audio streams....

Anyway, thanks for this great proggie.. It just keeps getting better. With ReJig it's extremely easy to use.

jdobbs
24th March 2004, 18:42
Originally posted by broken_bricks
Is there anything I can do to fix this or stop this from happening?

Thanks. Are you doing any preprocessing of the files. The only way I can imagine this happening is if you've removed one or more cells from the .VOB and the .IFO wasn't properly updated. There are lots of utilities that could cause this...

jdobbs
24th March 2004, 18:44
Originally posted by Oldeman
Is the final DVD size target determined before you deselect audio streams?

It seems to me, that whenever I drop an audio stream via unchecking it on the DVD-RB menu, the DVD is undersized by the amount of the audio streams....

Anyway, thanks for this great proggie.. It just keeps getting better. With ReJig it's extremely easy to use. No. The reduced audio is included in the calculation (the space is reallocated to the video portion). Please note, though, that the output is calculated to fall 160MB short to make room for possible sizing (bitrate) inaccuracies.

hypo20
24th March 2004, 18:46
Originally posted by jdobbs
This will be fixed tonight and you won't have to do it anymore...

Sweeeeeet. You're damn fast. :D

KungFuCow
24th March 2004, 18:50
Originally posted by jdobbs
No. The reduced audio is included in the calculation (the space is reallocated to the video portion). Please note, though, that the output is calculated to fall 160MB short to make room for possible sizing (bitrate) inaccuracies.

Hmm.. something is defintely broken with size prediction in the latest version. Redid Lost In Translation, left in all audio tracks (including DTS) BUT I removed the French audio track and the DVD is undersized now by 400ish meg. This has never happened until version 23.

DMagic1
24th March 2004, 18:54
That temporary fix from IFOEdit that everyone has been talking about. Does that fix something in the ifo files alone, or does it fix something in the vobs as well?

P3gasus
24th March 2004, 19:24
Originally posted by DMagic1
That temporary fix from IFOEdit that everyone has been talking about. Does that fix something in the ifo files alone, or does it fix something in the vobs as well?

I thinks it fixes both ifo and vobs :).
Bye

hifreak
24th March 2004, 19:33
Hello this is a great program. I have tried it with the cinema encoder v. 2.67, but it does not work only with the 2.50 version it works. Have anyone experienced problems with the new encoder version too ? sorry for my english
:)

hypo20
24th March 2004, 20:01
Originally posted by hifreak
Hello this is a great program. I have tried it with the cinema encoder v. 2.67, but it does not work only with the 2.50 version it works. Have anyone experienced problems with the new encoder version too ? sorry for my english
:)

What problems??? It's important. I have no problems with 2.67.0.23 from version 0.16.

oCe
24th March 2004, 20:07
Well, did Basic all over again, with version 0.23 this time. Plays fine on the Philips as usual and YES audio on the Pioneer! It plays the first title (movie-company logo, movie) and YES the second title (still image, age-rating) and even the third title (copyright warnings, movie) but then it stops, on the Pioneer. Player says 'stop' again and well, that's it. On the Philips it plays, the fourth title is an interlaced mpeg, which always stuttered with previous versions. Though, it plays smooth now, is interlaced encoding/detecting inserted in someway as of 0.22 or 0.23, or am I going mental?

-edit-

Seems I'm going mental ;) No seriously, in previous versions the Underworld-trailer (4th title) got recoded, now it just got copied; size is exactly the same. (vts_04_1.vob in this case) That explains, it's an feature as of 0.22 I see:

- Implemented a size limit on VTSs to be processed. Now very small VTSs that
have virtually no data involved are simply copied as-is and are not processed.
This eliminates unnecessary recoding and some possible gotchas.

Any change this might be an option? So it could be turned of, makes the interlaced testing (since mostly only trailers and extra's are interlaced, in PAL-area's where I live) a lot easier.

hypo20
24th March 2004, 20:13
Originally posted by oCe
Well, did Basic all over again, with version 0.23 this time. Plays fine on the Philips as usual and YES audio on the Pioneer! It plays the first title (movie-company logo, movie) and YES the second title (still image, age-rating) and even the third title (copyright warnings, movie) but then it stops, on the Pioneer. Player says 'stop' again and well, that's it. On the Philips it plays, the fourth title is an interlaced mpeg, which always stuttered with previous versions. Though, it plays smooth now, is interlaced encoding/detecting inserted in someway as of 0.22 or 0.23, or am I going mental?

-edit-

Seems I'm going mental ;) No seriously, in previous versions the Underworld-trailer (4th title) got recoded, now it just got copied; size is exactly the same. (vts_04_1.vob in this case) That explains :)

This is some king of FIGHT CLUB. :D Fighting with stills. :o)

robot1
24th March 2004, 20:16
Originally posted by jdobbs
This will be fixed tonight and you won't have to do it anymore...
Sorry if OT
I had to do the manual step with ifoedit also after using ifoupdate.
Is there anything to fix also in that program, and will it be fixed?
Anyway, thanks for these two great progs.

JvD
24th March 2004, 20:59
Yes, this has been discussed back and forth with different suggestion, BUT my qustion is, WHAT IS RUNTIME ERROR 9? Why does it occur? Do anybody REALLY know this OR do we only have theories? I tried my third title withou any luck (non-stripped). Done all those suggestion you can find in the thread? Did I miss something OR is this question still unanswered? SO? Is it the title or the setup (software) or something else? Or is it just ME? :-)

PS. Is there any way to not having to run a complete movie to try the process out? If I remove things in rebuild.ecl you get other problems. Do I have to edit the .d2v-file also? And the...??? Would be nice to have a way to try this software out without waiting 3 hours. DS.

hifreak
24th March 2004, 21:00
Originally posted by hypo20
What problems??? It's important. I have no problems with 2.67.0.23 from version 0.16. The screen does not pop up in the encoder, it does not start to encode only with the 2.50 version are running it right now and there are no problems. Is it beacuse i use a trial version of the 2.67 or can you help me :confused:

hypo20
24th March 2004, 22:02
Originally posted by hifreak
The screen does not pop up in the encoder, it does not start to encode only with the 2.50 version are running it right now and there are no problems. Is it beacuse i use a trial version of the 2.67 or can you help me :confused:

Do you have right settings???

hypo20
24th March 2004, 22:04
Originally posted by JvD
Yes, this has been discussed back and forth with different suggestion, BUT my qustion is, WHAT IS RUNTIME ERROR 9? Why does it occur? Do anybody REALLY know this OR do we only have theories? I tried my third title withou any luck (non-stripped). Done all those suggestion you can find in the thread? Did I miss something OR is this question still unanswered? SO? Is it the title or the setup (software) or something else? Or is it just ME? :-)

PS. Is there any way to not having to run a complete movie to try the process out? If I remove things in rebuild.ecl you get other problems. Do I have to edit the .d2v-file also? And the...??? Would be nice to have a way to try this software out without waiting 3 hours. DS.


Just keep the D2AVS folder in work directory, switch DVD-RB to 3-step mode and do 3rd step with the same settings as the work dir was created. I don't need to be reencoded again. :o)

JvD
24th March 2004, 22:18
OK, thanks! An answer to the EASY question ;-) That solution I do know, I dont know really what I was thinking on. I thougt like it would be nice to try new versions out with the one-click-way to see if it all works fine, a complete set of files with menu and stuf but at tiny movie on say 5 min. and the possibility to complress it, say 70%. Just to try the app out. But OK, ill keep me next recoded files to try new versions out. Thanks for the reminder.

STILL! My Big question stands unanswered. ORR?

hypo20
24th March 2004, 22:28
Originally posted by JvD
OK, thanks! An answer to the EASY question ;-) That solution I do know, I dont know really what I was thinking on. I thougt like it would be nice to try new versions out with the one-click-way to see if it all works fine, a complete set of files with menu and stuf but at tiny movie on say 5 min. and the possibility to complress it, say 70%. Just to try the app out. But OK, ill keep me next recoded files to try new versions out. Thanks for the reminder.

STILL! My Big question stands unanswered. ORR?

STILL is still not solved. I think, it will be soon. JDOBBS is great and he's doing GRRRRRRREAT steps forward.

JvD
24th March 2004, 22:37
Originally posted by hypo20
JDOBBS is great and he's doing GRRRRRRREAT steps forward.
Yeas, I DO fancy JDOBBS work alot AND I do think he will solve the problem. BUT my qustion was: DO WE REALLY KNOW ITS A QUESTION OF STILLS? Since I tried some different movies I thought I tested movies without stills without success. But then again, maybe I didnt look enough for those stills.

hifreak
24th March 2004, 22:48
Originally posted by hypo20
Do you have right settings??? I donīt know any more I have tried it all with the 2.67 maybe you can tell me your settings or even better send som screens to me as I can compare the settings or a step for step here. I have tried all the things in the "Read me" and more

redfive19
24th March 2004, 23:05
@jdobbs

Do you think checking the box "ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)" would help out my interlacing problem? I am using AviSynth 2.54 so I believe that command would work (at least from what I read in the CCE FAQ). CCE 2.50 Crashed too much on my machine. I am going back to using 2.67.00.23 and will try this command.

-redfive

Pedro Gouveia
24th March 2004, 23:09
Originally posted by jdobbs
Good feedback. I just changed the algorithm for that in version .22 -- is your check against version .22 or .23?

I encoded with .22 and rebuilded with .23

BTW. In the navigation packs, RB changes the Prohibited U-OP from the original.
The original was 00 00 00 00 00. After rebuild 01 c0 40 10.

hypo20
24th March 2004, 23:17
Originally posted by hifreak
I donīt know any more I have tried it all with the 2.67 maybe you can tell me your settings or even better send som screens to me as I can compare the settings or a step for step here. I have tried all the things in the "Read me" and more

PM me your mail address. I'll send you the INI for for rebuilder I am using. Ok???

Pedro Gouveia
25th March 2004, 00:05
First navigation pack have wrong values
VOBU end address - relative -> negative values
VOBU first reference frame end block -> negative values
VOBU second reference frame end block -> negative values
VOBU third reference frame end block -> negative values

Last navigation pack have wrong values
VOBU end address - relative
VOBU first reference frame end block
VOBU second reference frame end block

These fields have values that points beyond VOB size, and this seems to be the errors detected by DVD shrink after Rebuild
"Overlapped I/O operation is in progress"

Manually changing this, DVD shrink detects no errors.

hypo20
25th March 2004, 00:41
Ok.

Here's my configuration for DVD-RB 0.23 and CCE SP 2.66 and higher.
eclCCE and DVD-RB 0.23 also included. Just put CCE and files in archive to the same dir and run. :)

@jdobbs
If you have something against distributing on my server, please let me know, and I will remove it.

http://www.columnium.com/hypo/dvdrb/dvdrbini.zip

hypo20
25th March 2004, 00:46
Ok. update config. Please download again, if you want from the same link.

hypo20
25th March 2004, 00:56
And again......

hifreak
25th March 2004, 01:09
Originally posted by hypo20
And again...... I sent you a mail :)

hypo20
25th March 2004, 01:20
Originally posted by hifreak
I sent you a mail :)

And I replied. :)

bigskank
25th March 2004, 01:23
Originally posted by hifreak
The screen does not pop up in the encoder, it does not start to encode only with the 2.50 version are running it right now and there are no problems. Is it beacuse i use a trial version of the 2.67 or can you help me :confused:

@hifreak

Make sure that your ECL-CCE's ini file is pointed to the correct version of CCE you want to use. I have both 2.50 and 2.66 on my system, and have to change the ini file for CCE whenever I want to use one or the other. To change the ECL-CCE ini file settings, open ECL-CCE.exe and point it to the CCE executable that you want to use.

Then, after you have changed the INI file for ECL-CCE, open rebuilder, select the version of CCE you are using under "Options -> CCE Options" (in this case 2.67), and then go to Options -> Settings and point your path for the "CCE SP (new)" to your ECL.exe file. I was having this very same problem with my trial version of 2.66 (the encoder wouldn't pop up). It's because none of the trial versions of CCE support command line processing, which is why you have to use ECL-CCE.

jdobbs
25th March 2004, 01:24
Originally posted by JvD
Yes, this has been discussed back and forth with different suggestion, BUT my qustion is, WHAT IS RUNTIME ERROR 9? Why does it occur? Do anybody REALLY know this OR do we only have theories? I tried my third title withou any luck (non-stripped). Done all those suggestion you can find in the thread? Did I miss something OR is this question still unanswered? SO? Is it the title or the setup (software) or something else? Or is it just ME? :-)

PS. Is there any way to not having to run a complete movie to try the process out? If I remove things in rebuild.ecl you get other problems. Do I have to edit the .d2v-file also? And the...??? Would be nice to have a way to try this software out without waiting 3 hours. DS. I can tell you exactly what causes it. It's when there is a very long stream of non-video packets and I get a buffer overrun. It's usually caused by a still frame. I'll fix it soon.

jdobbs
25th March 2004, 01:29
Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
First navigation pack have wrong values
VOBU end address - relative -> negative values
VOBU first reference frame end block -> negative values
VOBU second reference frame end block -> negative values
VOBU third reference frame end block -> negative values

Last navigation pack have wrong values
VOBU end address - relative
VOBU first reference frame end block
VOBU second reference frame end block

These fields have values that points beyond VOB size, and this seems to be the errors detected by DVD shrink after Rebuild
"Overlapped I/O operation is in progress"


Manually changing this, DVD shrink detects no errors. This is a part of the fix I'm doing right now. I had a major error in the way I was calculating reference frame end blocks. This was the root of the pixelation and FF errors at chapter points that were mentioned earlier. I have the fix in, but right now I'm testing it by comparing my original output to that created by IFOEdit after fixing...