DVD Rebuilder (CCE One-Click Beta) Bug Reports

[Raymongo]

As soon as i hit the process button this message appears. I did not do any stripping i just used dvd decrypter thats all. I did try more versions (older) but the same problem appears there also. It is a dutch movie witch is PAL and is also interlaced.

De Schippers van de Kameleon / Version 0.16 - 0.22 - 0.23 - 0.24
CCE 2.67.0.23
eclcce Yes
Error appears as soon as the prepare button is hit!

http://home.12move.nl/~sh918005/Run-time_error_9.jpg

[JvD]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I can tell you exactly what causes it. It's when there is a very long stream of non-video packets and I get a buffer overrun. It's usually caused by a still frame. I'll fix it soon.

Raymongo, her is the answer. Some moves have this problem, even wneh not stripped. 2 bad. We will have a fix for that "soon" (jdobbs).

PS. Thanks jdobbs for you aswer to my previos question. DS.

[gvittoz]

now it is ok for the first error but
I've got the problem "error 380"
anyone know what's suppose

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
No. You shouldn't have to recode. The problem (I thought) was in the rebuild. Had you tried fixing the problem previously by running it through IFOEdit? I was under the impression from previous posts that they went away when the pointers were fixed.
The problems do go away (for the most part) when doing in ifoedit:
- Correct Vob-Unit (Navigation Pack) pointers in VOB-files
- Correct original IFO files

However as RB said, I wouldn't put 100% faith in the ifoedit output in this case. I saw a residual weirdness after doing this procedure. When RW past a particular chapter point, it jumped to chapter+2. This only happened on one chapter. Otherwise it looked okay. Pixelation and jumpiness at chapter points was fixed.

I also confirmed pixelation and jumpiness remains after full recode-rebuild with 0.24.

[redfive19]

@jdobbs,

dude, please help me with this interlacing problem. I tried again last night with the ConverttoYUY2(interlaced=true) in the AVS's and it's still not working. I think it might be something within the authoring process because when I author just the M2V's with Adobe Encore, I do not see this interlacing problem. I am very very lost.

[trebor]

I got the exakt same problem as Raymongo and have been since version 0.16 (on some dvdr's, not all)
Was just about to post a screenshot like his one :p

[quantum]

Originally posted by redfive19
dude, please help me with this interlacing problem. I tried again last night with the ConverttoYUY2(interlaced=true) in the AVS's and it's still not working. I think it might be something within the I'm sure he's read your half dozen (or more) posts about the same issue. If I was jdobbs, I would have categorized your tff/bff issue as low priority. He's got several problems that affect everyone and he's working on them diligently every day. This is beta software which means it's a work in progress. Since you're obviously desperate to copy your one disk, why don't you use one of the many released and stable programs available, DVDShrink and others.

[StifflerStealth]

@Redfive19
Actually, I was going to suggest doing some tests to find out whats wrong for jdobbs rather than using another program to back it up. This is what I'm suggesting, so correct me if I'm wrong. Use DoIfFast4U on demux by CellID, read the guides to get the other settings, but in the post processing settings do not have it launch another program. then once it finished demuxing by CellID, open the CCEdata.txt and figure out which cells are the first five cells of the main movei and then delete the rest out of that text file. Open DoCCE4U or BatchCCEWS, what ever you want, goto file-->Load list, and select your CCEdata.txt file. Then press the green play button. Once that's finished, compare those encoded cells with the five corrisponding cells from ReBuilder. If the ones from DoCCE/BatchCCE look better, then tell us and post the contents of the AVS files and D2V files.

You do not need to post all the lines in the d2v file that resemble this:
7 0 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 0 0 1
7 0 4E 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
7 0 FD 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
.
.
.

Stiff

PS. That was brief, but if you need more help setting up the above mentioned progs, PM me.

[redfive19]

@quantum
I apologize if I came off wrong in the last post. I am just a bit flustered over this process. I've been trying all different combos and wasting DVD-R's (I know, I need to get some -RW's). I completely appreciate jdobbs' work. I was hoping that someone else here was also encoding an interlaced DVD and ran across the same problem.

@StifflerStealth

I will go through the Big3 process you described and see what's up. The only problem that stopped me from doing this before is I am not completely sure of the Scenarist part when Demuxing by VOBID of CELLID. But if all I have to provide is the D2V info, than I can do that. Thanks for all your help.

-redfive

[StifflerStealth]

I just saying that you should stop after the encoding part, and not use Scenarist. Also, you only need to encode five cells, so that should not take too long, you can still campare the video quality.

Stiff

[wakebrder]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Hmm... I thought the stuttering/pixelation went away after running it through IFOEdit??? I thought I had that problem nailed... I'll have to look at it again tonight.

The same movie (Blade2) was flawless after running through IFOEdit.

I thought you had this fixed in version .24.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

You're so damn close!!:D

[francois20001]

jdobbs,

First let me thank you for a great program.
Now i have a little problem. nothing like the others that will take lost of time to fix or anything. I have noticed that if you exit DVD-RB, the source path is not reset or deleted and when you start the program again it will crash if there is no DVD on the drive or the image is no longer mounted. I have been going into the ini file and removing the path manually but i was curious if it could be automated?

Thanks again for all the hard work

[CeanD]

EDIT:: Fixed

[DMagic1]

I can import the v0.24 output in to Shrink and run uncompressed without errors.

If I try to run the v0.24 output in CloneDVD with no compressions I get NavigationPack errors just like in versions before v0.24

v.023 output run thru IFOEdit to correct, then run thru CloneDVD wouldnt give the NavigationPack errors.

v.024 run thru Shrink to correct, then run thru CloneDVD doesnt give the NavigationPack errors.

I havent run v.024 thru IFOEdit yet.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by francois20001
jdobbs,

First let me thank you for a great program.
Now i have a little problem. nothing like the others that will take lost of time to fix or anything. I have noticed that if you exit DVD-RB, the source path is not reset or deleted and when you start the program again it will crash if there is no DVD on the drive or the image is no longer mounted. I have been going into the ini file and removing the path manually but i was curious if it could be automated?

Thanks again for all the hard work Hmmm... I always thought of it as a feature -- but when you are mounting ISO images it becomes a bug... I'll think of something.

[DMagic1]

Just comparing I notice that RB always has VOB sizes that aren't what you normally see.

RB VOBs
1,048,560 kb
1,048,562 kb
1,048,562 kb
1,048,562 kb
329,856 kb

Shrink corrected RB VOBs
1,048,574 kb
1,048,574 kb
1,048,574 kb
1,048,574 kb
329,806 kb

But both have the same cells in each vob.

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by DMagic1
I can import the v0.24 output in to Shrink and run uncompressed without errors.

If I try to run the v0.24 output in CloneDVD with no compressions I get NavigationPack errors just like in versions before v0.24

v.023 output run thru IFOEdit to correct, then run thru CloneDVD wouldnt give the NavigationPack errors.

v.024 run thru Shrink to correct, then run thru CloneDVD doesnt give the NavigationPack errors.

I havent run v.024 thru IFOEdit yet.

Does passing dvdrb output through dvdshirnk (uncompressed) solve chapter pixelation problem?

[CeanD]

Fixed

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by P3gasus
Does passing dvdrb output through dvdshirnk (uncompressed) solve chapter pixelation problem?

I'm burning now to see.

*Update*
Yes the pixelation problems are gone from the Shrink corrected output.

[insane822]

I tried searching through these threads for this topic before, so if it has been discussed can someone please point me there.

I Have D2V options set to force film.
But I don't see what the point of that is when DVD-RB doesn't have CCE encode with 3:2 pulldown, nor does it have it encode with zig-zag.

So the output i get from CCE is interlaced :/

[DMagic1]

@jdobbs

One good thing is that there are nearly as many differences between the Shrink corrected VOBs of v.024 and the IFOEdit corrected VOBs of v.023. Its seems like its almost there.

I still need to do the IFOEdit correction to v.024 and see how it compares to the IFOEdit corrections of v.023.

[CeanD]

I now get this:

http://www.ceand.com/images/dvdbrerror.jpg

I successfully got the menus done, but the main film was MIA at this point.

[robw]

JDobbs
just a recommendation for the batch option. Would be nice to have a save and load feature. That way, one can set up the batch file and save it. Later (at the end of the evening) just load and run while you go off to bed.

Just something for the list, certainly lower priority.

[quantum]

@jdobbs and others: This is a sample of the pixelation at chapter points. I took a picture of the TV set. I couldn't think of any other way to capture it. The large cubes are the pixels and the man is ghosted.

http://www.connforum.com/pixels.jpg

[RB]

Originally posted by insane822
I Have D2V options set to force film.
But I don't see what the point of that is when DVD-RB doesn't have CCE encode with 3:2 pulldown, nor does it have it encode with zig-zag.

So the output i get from CCE is interlaced :/
The 3:2 pulldown in CCE is inverse 3:2 pulldown, not needed here. Rebuilder applies pulldown itself during remuxing. Also your output isn't interlaced, it's just encoded with alternate scan and progressive frames off. I guess Rebuilder is just replicating the original stream encoding in CCE which is good.

[quantum]

Originally posted by DMagic1
*Update*Yes the pixelation problems are gone from the Shrink corrected output. [/B] Confirmed. I processed my test disk output from dvdrb through shrink. Since it was already under the size limit, everything was set to 100% size and it took under 3 minutes to process. Ifo's and vobs were different sizes so things were changed all around. The pixelation and stuttering at chapters points seems completely gone and everything appears as it should be. This looked a bit better than the ifoedit output.

I also noticed shrink removed the various p-uops and I can go directly to the menu. This couldn't have anything to do with it could it?

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by DMagic1
I'm burning now to see.

*Update*
Yes the pixelation problems are gone from the Shrink corrected output.

I just ran the v.024 output thru IFOEdit also just as we did with v.023.
It also corrected the problem just as Shrink does.

It seems that CloneDVD is a fair tool to test for this navigation/chapter pixelation problem since it is the only one of the one-clicks left that still reports a problem with the v.024 output. But it doesnt report a problem after Shrink or IFOEdit corrections.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DMagic1
I just ran the v.024 output thru IFOEdit also just as we did with v.023.
It also corrected the problem just as Shrink does.

It seems that CloneDVD is a fair tool to test for this navigation/chapter pixelation problem since it is the only one of the one-clicks left that still reports a problem with the v.024 output. But it doesnt report a problem after Shrink or IFOEdit corrections. Wow. I'm checking.

[redfive19]

@stiffler & @jdobbs

Here's a copy of the D2v files from DoItFast4U and from DVD RB

--------------------------------------------------------------

*DVD RB .D2V*

Stream_Type=1,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=29970

-------------------
*DoitFast4U .D2v*

Stream_Type=0,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=29970

----------------------------------------

Seems like everything is the same except for the stream type. I don't know what that means but there's a possibility that's my problem. Any ideas guys?

-redfive

[CeanD]

Didn;t realize I was using .22, upgraded to .24, same Runtime Error at the same point 3x in a row.

:shrug:

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by redfive19
@stiffler & @jdobbs

Here's a copy of the D2v files from DoItFast4U and from DVD RB

--------------------------------------------------------------

*DVD RB .D2V*

Stream_Type=1,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=29970

-------------------
*DoitFast4U .D2v*

Stream_Type=0,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=29970

----------------------------------------

Seems like everything is the same except for the stream type. I don't know what that means but there's a possibility that's my problem. Any ideas guys?

-redfive I don't think it matters look here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23788&highlight=streamtype)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by francois20001
jdobbs,

First let me thank you for a great program.
Now i have a little problem. nothing like the others that will take lost of time to fix or anything. I have noticed that if you exit DVD-RB, the source path is not reset or deleted and when you start the program again it will crash if there is no DVD on the drive or the image is no longer mounted. I have been going into the ini file and removing the path manually but i was curious if it could be automated?

Thanks again for all the hard work When opening DVD-RB loads the last accessed file and attempts to gather the audio information from the IFO files. That's when you get this error. I can not save it -- but I'm afraid I will immediately get inundated with people asking why I don't save the path...

[theuser86]

@paced

I tried your top_first=0 to top_first=1 thing and the same problem presists.

I changed that option for every single AVS. Prolbem is still there trying to encode the interlaced video.

[jdobbs]

All,

I'm actively working the runtime '9' and the pixelation/chapter errors. Expect to see an update on Friday.

Thanks.

[wakebrder]

You da man jdobbs....:sly:

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by jdobbs
All,

I'm actively working the runtime '9' and the pixelation/chapter errors. Expect to see an update on Friday.

Thanks.

Not trying to rush you but what about the resizing issues?

[Elnoyle]

Every time I press the "Prepare" button (DVD-RB 0.24) for any DVD I've tried, with any settings I've tried, I get an error that says:

"Run-time error '5':
Invalid Procedure call or argument"

I'm surprised this hasn't yet been addressed. :(

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Not trying to rush you but what about the resizing issues? That's the easy one. I'll get that completed in the next version.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Elnoyle
Every time I press the "Prepare" button (DVD-RB 0.24) for any DVD I've tried, with any settings I've tried, I get an error that says:

"Run-time error '5':
Invalid Procedure call or argument"

I'm surprised this hasn't yet been addressed. :( Are you using v.24?

[Elnoyle]

@jdobbs: Yes, I am using v.24

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'm actively working the runtime '9' and the pixelation/chapter errors. Expect to see an update on Friday. Good news. Can we assume this means you've figured out what the problem might be?

[brikin]

jdobbs
I get the

"Run-time error '5':
Invalid Procedure call or argument"

When I press the Rebuild button. I have gotten this error since some of your first releases. I am using .24 currently.

[redfive19]

@jdobbs

You know what? DIF4U labeled the video as NO PULL. Does RB perform pulldown no matter what? That might be a problem. Also, I noticed that the speed of CCE is dramatically less when launching from DIF4U (DOCCE4U) than with your app so some "filter" or setting is different. Not quite sure what just yet. I'm sorry, I really wish I knew more about CCE, AviSynth and all that goes along with it. Up until your app I just followed the Doom9 guide on the Big3 unless it had to be demuxed by VOBID, then I'd use a one click app.

-redfive

[JvD]

Originally posted by jdobbs
All,

I'm actively working the runtime '9' and the pixelation/chapter errors. Expect to see an update on Friday.

Thanks.

Thanks God its friday!!! ;-) DVD-RB without the runtime 9 error and some beer makes this day the perfekct end of this week. Atleast some of us is worth it. Cheers jdobbs!


PS. Darn how silent this place was this morning. But then, some of you guys might be needing some sleep I imagine. DS

[walkistalki]

@redfive

do you mean that the speed is slower when using dvd-rb?
then i have the same issue: 1.9 with docce and 1.5 with dvd-rb
didn't see any interlace scripts in the avs though

[JvD]

Me too has notices the slower speed compared to running CCE in other cases (with no deinterlace command). Its really not a problem, its like 1.6 instead of 1.8. But it WOULD be interesting ig someone could explain it.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by redfive19
@jdobbs

You know what? DIF4U labeled the video as NO PULL. Does RB perform pulldown no matter what? That might be a problem. Also, I noticed that the speed of CCE is dramatically less when launching from DIF4U (DOCCE4U) than with your app so some "filter" or setting is different. Not quite sure what just yet. I'm sorry, I really wish I knew more about CCE, AviSynth and all that goes along with it. Up until your app I just followed the Doom9 guide on the Big3 unless it had to be demuxed by VOBID, then I'd use a one click app.

-redfive You might check out the AVISYNTH file created by DIF4U. If it is slower there may be some filtering occuring (deinterlacing?).

[redfive19]

EXACTLY RIGHT!!! Here's a copy of the AVS from DIF4U

-----------------------------------------------------
DOITFAST4U AVS SCRIPT

import("x:\DoItFast4U\new.avs\addaudio.avs")

LoadPlugin("x:\DoItFast4U\new.avs\mpeg2dec3.dll")

Mpeg2Source("VTS__01_P06.I-TFF.16~9_1.d2v",idct=0)

LoadPlugin("x:\DoItFast4U\new.avs\decomb.dll")

FieldDeinterlace()

AddAudio()

ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)
----------------------------------------------------
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:03
#------------------
mpeg2source("Z:\BURN\DVDREBUILD\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(9150,16319)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)
AddAudio()

----------------------------------------------------
BTW, I just checked my final product in my dvd player and I have none of the jitteriness (I am not trying to compare the Big3 to your app!!!). So it seems FieldDeinterlace and decomb filter are the only things different (I don't count trim since I did not do a CELLID demux with DIF4U). Any plans to add them in the future? I wonder if I can add them manually from now on if such a case arises again. Would that mess up the rebuilding process?

-redfive

[StifflerStealth]

@redfive19: You can add anything to the avs scripts that are valid commands. You need to be in the 3 step process, and edit them before you click the "Encode" button. I knew there had to be some type of filtering going on, and now that you know what it is, you can modify the scripts accordingly. This is one of the reasons jdobbs made it easy to modify scripts. Remember this program is in early beta phase right now. Hopefully this stuff is detected later on. Sorry for not responding sooner.

Stiff

[redfive19]

@stiff
Dude I totally understand and I completely appreciate jdobbs' work. I am very excited to see the future of this app. The only reason I posted asking if it was going to be added was because this is a bug report thread. I figure he should know that I finally figured out what the heck was wrong!!! From now on, my process will be (and I know it sounds laborious but I'd rather do it this way):

1. Let DIF4U create the avs scripts based on field type.
2. Import that info (if applicable) into DVD RB's avs scripts. (I think I can find/replace/add in multiple AVS files with UltraEdit or NoteTabPro)
3. Press encode from DVD RB.
4. Complete the rest of the process as normal.

I think this whole experience has prompted me to learn more about field order, avi synth, and CCE. I probably would have known what the problem was sooner if I had studied these things before hand!
Thanks for all your help.

-redfive