DVD Rebuilder (CCE One-Click Beta) Bug Reports

[jdobbs]

All,

The purpose of this thread is to try and organize the rather large traffic that is being posted (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72691) for DVD-RB since it started beta testing. In this thread please post any bugs you may encounter. It would be nice if you used the format below -- but if you don't want to waste the time, just use whatever format you want.

1. DVD-R Version: x.xx
2. Encoder being used: CCE X.XX, ReJig X.XX, or QuEnc X.XX
3. Using eclCCE? Y or N
4. Bug encountered: Description of the bug, with any detail that might make it clearer and easier to fix.
5. If you think it might help, use the "Copy Status to Clipboard" feature of v0.19 and above -- and post it with the bug report.

I will also attempt to keep the link below up-to-date so you can always come to the first page of this thread to get the latest version of the beta.

The latest version can be found here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75452)

You can find brief installation and usage instructions on this post/page. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73051&postid=485191)

Again my thanks to all the beta testers. Your constructive inputs are really helpful in making this a useful product.

jdobbs

[DMagic1]

0. NTSC
1. DVD-RB v18
2. Rejig and CCE
3. N
4. Fast Forward / Rewind crashes or freezes some stand alone playes. Also fails using IFOEdit DVD player.

jdobbs have you tried your output in IFOEdit DVD player?

[DDogg]

I found a silly one with 19. I had an iso of 2010 mounted and tried RB on it with rejig. I didn't even notice it needed no compression. hehe, Rejig choked on a re-compression factor of 107.4. :) Perhaps you need to check for user idiocy.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DDogg
I found a silly one with 19. I had an iso of 2010 mounted and tried RB on it with rejig. I didn't even notice it needed no compression. hehe, Rejig choked on a re-compression factor of 107.4. :) Perhaps you need to check for user idiocy. Oh, man. That happened to someone earlier and I forgot to put that check in. That'll be in the next version. You want to know what is even funnier -- if you use CCE it will actually reencode at a bitrate higher than the original! Now that's a waste.

[DMagic1]

no oversize problem after all.

[jdobbs]

If the files are still in the D2VAVS directory, could you do a little comparing between the .MPV (original) and the .M2V (transcoded) files? Does it match the percentage that DVD-RB calculated? I just want to see if it is my calculation or the actual ReJig resizing that is off.

Thx.

[DMagic1]

Sorry I already deleted them.

I was testing v.019 and I just got an error.

Run-time error 5:
Invalid procedure call or argument

This was during Rebuilding, as it stated on segment 0.

[StifflerStealth]

@DMagic1,

Damn. I'm also NTSC and can't get it to repeat this - I was hoping it was something simple like a computation issue with PAL when figuring out the contents of the Data Search Informatin (DSI) packet.

In the DSI, which is in the NAVPACK there are SRIs that point to VOBUs in a forward and backward direction. If your FF and RW aren't working properly it would tend to indicate that this table is populated incorrectly. Unfortunately this table isn't enumerated by VOBEdit (except in Hex mode) making it difficult to review it. It makes it even worse when the FF and REW work fine for the discs I've tried (at 1.5x, 5x, and 20x on my standalone(s) and also using PowerDVD)

I'll go back over the code that fills the table and see if there are any anomalies...

@All,

Are there others who are experiencing problems with FF and RW?

I just mux a DVD using v0.19:
In Nero Showtime, setting the play rate faster than 1x is like pressing the stop button. Showtime doesn't crash, it just stops playback. On the other hand, I can use InterVideo WinDVD and faster play rates. The image is still burning for me to test the stand alone.

On a good note, the DVD can now be opened in Nero ReCode, so I am running it on the re-encoded DVD with everything set at 100%. This might be a temparary fix to get the fast forward stuff to work right.

EDIT: Nope, recode didn't fix it. It might just be a problem with Show time itself since it worked in WinDVD. Still burning at 1x to test on my Stand alone.

Stiff

[jdobbs]

Could you try something for me? Using IFOEdit go into the IFO file of the offending VTS and under VTSI_MAT, change the value of VTS_TMAPT to "0". Make sure you write the original value down -- and don't run "Get VTS Sectors"

Then try and run it and see if it behaves any differently.

Thx.

[DMagic1]

Still the same thing.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by jdobbs
If the files are still in the D2VAVS directory, could you do a little comparing between the .MPV (original) and the .M2V (transcoded) files? Does it match the percentage that DVD-RB calculated? I just want to see if it is my calculation or the actual ReJig resizing that is off.

Thx.

no over size after all

[JvD]

Tried the 0.18 version and got the same error again, runtim error 9. Same movie (Breakfast at Tiffanys) and same setup. CCE seems to stop when it errives to one of those still pictures. At least if I play the avs-file it looks like some kind of still. Can You Tell DBDRB to skip those files?

BUT when using Rejig (as transcoder) everything runs OK, without a glitch. (on the same movie)

Hope this EclCCE/CCE bug can be removed. Without it, it makes this app my sweet little darling ;-)

[acido]

I tried with 3 differend PAL DVD but i still cannot produce a playable copy of them on my standalone (elta 8882).
1. DVD-R Version: 0.16
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.0023 trial
3. Using eclCCE v 1.7b
4. Bug encountered:
- DVD takes longer to be recognized as a DVD format
- starts playing not from menus, then jumps back to them after some time.
- Selecting chapters from menus the dvd starts skipping between chapters.
- Looking the film from the beginning and pressing NEXT chapter i got the same results, the DVD starts skipping quickly between chapters.
.
DVD has single PGC titlesets.
.
Playing back in powerDVD gives no problems, so it may be related to my standalone, but never had a similar problem before with other programs ( clonedvd - dvdshrink - Pinnacle ic8 ...) . :confused:
.
Can someone outline program limitations and bugs in a single page for reference? e.g what type of DVDs can actually be backed-up an what not
.
TIA

[jdobbs]

ALL:

Okay, the good news is I've been able to repeat the Navigation problem (FF, RV). It's 4:50AM, I just got up, and I've started the coffee. This will be my number one priority today. I'll post as soon as I find resolution.

jdobbs

[DMagic1]

Thankyou!! :)
Hope you get it resolved.

Its the same time here and I'm just going to bed. See ya in 5 hours.

[SLA]

If i perform CRC check on both .bup and .ifo it says that they differ, but they should/must be same. so i guess the tmapti time table transfer is only performed for the .ifos and the .bups are left untouched?

btw. great tool

[hypo20]

@jdobbs

0. DVD: Bruce Almighty PAL
1: DVD-BR v.019 (but this problem I have from beginning)
2: CCE-SP 2.67.0.23 (no trial)
3: using last available eclCCE
4: audio is not working on re-encoded DVD in standalone player (only in menus, which are not re-encoded). In PC everything works fine, but in player...no. ;o) I'm testing it on 4xDVD+R but the player is working with it for sure. I've tested it with others transcoders. :)
Can you check it plese? I'm going mad. :) I want to use yours app. :)

Right now I'm trying some fixes. I will post report. :)

EDIT:
Maybe de-multiplexing a video stream from re-encoded video and running it through IfoEdit with Correct NAV-Packs, Correct Original IFO's and ReMux options enabled, the stream will be re-multiplexed and IFO re-written, so maybe this the way. :) I'll test everything.

[robot1]

@hypo20
Have you already tried a moch strip (select strip stream and keep all stream) in ifo-edit?

@all
Am I the only one who gets undersized results?
Two test: 3,30 and 3,32 GB.

[Abnormal1]

@hypo20
Bruce Almighty PAL is the next DVD i am going to try ReBuilder on. Anyway have have you had a look at the dvd in IFOEdit and checked that the audio streams are referenced in VTSI_MAT and VTS_PGCTI. Maybe compare it with the original.

Abnormal

[jdobbs]

All:

FOUND IT!! The problem with navigation (FF/RW) that was being experienced has been found and corrected. It was not in the TMAPTI table (although I did find a bug in which my updates sometimes weren't being written :( ) For the Geeks who care: In the Data Search Information (DSI) table of each NAVPACK I was setting an incorrect bit (used a bad mask value).

Anyway I tested the instance in which I could repeat this using the IFOEdit player -- and the problem went away.

A new Version of DVD Rebuilder (v0.20) is attached. The changes are listed below:

- Fixed the nagging navigation error that was causing some players to hang up when fast-forwarding or rewinding

- Added an option to SETUP that will change the background color (for those of you who just can't stand blue-green)

- Implemented code that warns and stops when attempting to reencode information that will already fit on a DVD-5 (without additional compression)

NOTE: ADDED ONE MORE FIX AND UPDATED TO 0.21

- Corrected an error in which the TMAPTI updates were being made to the .IFO file but not to the corresponding .BUP

ATTACHMENT DELETED AFTER 2112 DOWNLOADS. LOOK AT THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS THREAD IF YOU WANT THE MOST CURRENT VERSION.

[lighty]

Originally posted by jdobbs
- Added an option to SETUP that will change the background color (for those of you who just can't stand blue-green


THANK YOU !!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

[jdobbs]

Just a note to those who are experiencing the navigation issues. If you want to test the new version and you still have the files on your hard drive, you don't have to reencode (it can take a long time). You can switch from 1-Click mode to 3-Click mode and only run the "Rebuild" phase. Make sure, though, that none of your settings have changed...

[t1955feb]

Tested 3 dvd's always getting the runtime error 9 subscript out of range and it's occuring in the prepare status can't copy to clipboard dvd builder is shutting down..

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by t1955feb
Tested 3 dvd's always getting the runtime error 9 subscript out of range and it's occuring in the prepare status can't copy to clipboard dvd builder is shutting down.. This is bothering me because its another that I can't repeat. Could you post or PM me with your exact configuration? It would help if you just cut-and-pasted the entire contents of the Rebuilder.ini file. I'd also like to see a listing of the directory contents (source and working) if possible.

[t1955feb]

Hello Jdobbs how can i insert a file in pm sorry dont know...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by t1955feb
Hello Jdobbs how can i insert a file in pm sorry dont know... Is it something (text) you can just cut and paste?

[quantum]

I still get a path/file access error when I try to rebuild if the source path is a read-only drive. It starts with "copying ifo, bup and menu files". Seems to get through 100% of that according to status bar, then I get the error.

[acido]

Hi jdobbs,
i've made another try with DVD-RB 0.21 but i'm still having big problems playing back to my standalone DVD ( elta 8882 ).
1. DVD-RB Version: 0.21
2. Encoder being used: Rejig 05e ( to save encoding time )
3. Using eclCCE v 1.7b
4. Bugs encountered:
- DVD takes longer to be recognized as a DVD format
- starts playing not from menus, then jumps back to them after some time.
- Selecting chapters from menus the dvd starts skipping between chapters.
- Looking the film from the beginning and pressing NEXT chapter i got the same results, the DVD starts skipping quickly between chapters.
.

Playing back in powerDVD/IFOEDIT gives no problems.
.
I have a working copy of the same dvd, and the failing one. Both obtained from the same stripped source, if you tell me how i can try to compare them or if interested i can send you some bup/ifo files should you need them.

[DnGermany]

First of all thanks for the program!
1. Dvd is Xmen-2 ntsc.
2. DVD-RB 0.20
3. Using QuEnc 0.41
4. During the start of the rebuild phase i get run time error '5' invalid procedure call or argument.

Anyone else have this problem? The thread was getting to long to read through everything again.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by Abnormal1
@hypo20
Bruce Almighty PAL is the next DVD i am going to try ReBuilder on. Anyway have have you had a look at the dvd in IFOEdit and checked that the audio streams are referenced in VTSI_MAT and VTS_PGCTI. Maybe compare it with the original.

Abnormal

Everything is the same. Except of cell start/end sectors of course. Trying stripping streams with IfoEdit.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
Hi jdobbs,
i've made another try with DVD-RB 0.21 but i'm still having big problems playing back to my standalone DVD ( elta 8882 ).
1. DVD-RB Version: 0.21
2. Encoder being used: Rejig 05e ( to save encoding time )
3. Using eclCCE v 1.7b
4. Bugs encountered:
- DVD takes longer to be recognized as a DVD format
- starts playing not from menus, then jumps back to them after some time.
- Selecting chapters from menus the dvd starts skipping between chapters.
- Looking the film from the beginning and pressing NEXT chapter i got the same results, the DVD starts skipping quickly between chapters.
.

Playing back in powerDVD/IFOEDIT gives no problems.
.
I have a working copy of the same dvd, and the failing one. Both obtained from the same stripped source, if you tell me how i can try to compare them or if interested i can send you some bup/ifo files should you need them. I think I know what part of this is and its related to still frames and/or button over video... have you tried more than one DVD?

[acido]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I think I know what part of this is and its related to still frames and/or button over video... have you tried more than one DVD?
Yes, i've tried with 3 different DVDs for example:
"U2 go home" and "Crime shades" the 3rd is an italian/french film .
All the 3 ripped DVDs were stripped before using DVD-RB in order to shrink only what i really need, you can try to reproduce by :
- rip with dvddecrypter ISO mode removing all protections
- mount the image with daemon tools
- strip from the virtual drive using clonedvd v.2 to remove unneded titlesets/menus without compressing vobs ( size = 9999 ). Think you could also use ifoedit (as i was used in the past).
- compress with DVD-RB ( either using CCE or Rejig )
.
hope this helps
:)

[quantum]

I remember someone else reporting this. Processed Matchstick Men r1 ntsc and video and navigation is okay. Audio plays in Zoom Player but not in my Pioneer standalone. First time I've ever seen this happen. The audio for the menu works, but not for the main movie. I tried switching through all the audio channels. Again, main movie audio plays correctly in Zoom Player.

edit: My Pioneer standalone is the DV 260

[hypo20]

Originally posted by quantum
I remember someone else reporting this. Processed Matchstick Men r1 ntsc and video and navigation is okay. Audio plays in Zoom Player but not in my Pioneer standalone. First time I've ever seen this happen. The audio for the menu works, but not for the main movie. I tried switching through all the audio channels. Again, main movie audio plays correctly in Zoom Player.

Got the same prob Quantum.
Now testing with new version and some modifications done by IfoEdit. I'll post results maybe in one hour.

[2COOL]

I downloaded 0.21 and unzipped it but is it just me or is the file I got v1.0.0.0? :eek: Just put your cursor over your Rebuilder.exe in Explorer to check the version in ToolTip pop-up. Of course, it's the same for previous beta too. April Fool's came a little early. :p :p

[oCe]

posted this in the original -big thread- too, but will copy & paste here aswell, since it's a bug-report:

@jdobbs:

Well, tested your new version 0.21: same results. Nero burns the dvd fine now though, no more errors in the .bup-files. Problems that remain:

* my Pioneer DV-360 plays the first title, then displays 'STOP', no other titles can't be played. Manual skip (during that 1st title, which is the movie-company's logo) to the 2nd title or menu has no effect.
* on my Pioneer DV-360 no sound at all, just like I read about the DV-430 somewhere in this topic from another user. (the DV-360 and DV-430 are basicly the same)
* on my Philips DVD-625 no problems with playback, all audio channels (dolby digital 5.1 and 2.0 and dts) work without problems. Audio & video are sync, image quality is good (4 pass, CCE 2.67) only interlaced parts (some titles) are totally screwed up. Anyway to indicate or analyze chapters for interlaced mpeg's?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
Yes, i've tried with 3 different DVDs for example:
"U2 go home" and "Crime shades" the 3rd is an italian/french film .
All the 3 ripped DVDs were stripped before using DVD-RB in order to shrink only what i really need, you can try to reproduce by :
- rip with dvddecrypter ISO mode removing all protections
- mount the image with daemon tools
- strip from the virtual drive using clonedvd v.2 to remove unneded titlesets/menus without compressing vobs ( size = 9999 ). Think you could also use ifoedit (as i was used in the past).
- compress with DVD-RB ( either using CCE or Rejig )
.
hope this helps
:) Have you tried doing any DVDs without stripping out title sets with Clonedvd or some other package? I can't predict what might happen when the source isn't original

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
I remember someone else reporting this. Processed Matchstick Men r1 ntsc and video and navigation is okay. Audio plays in Zoom Player but not in my Pioneer standalone. First time I've ever seen this happen. The audio for the menu works, but not for the main movie. I tried switching through all the audio channels. Again, main movie audio plays correctly in Zoom Player. Odd for sure. I don't actually do any processing on the audio portion of the disc. About the extent of what I do is merge the original stream into the video stream as I'm rebuilding and modify the time stamps. I also leave the audio information in the IFOs intact.

[JvD]

jdobbs, you got PM!
I sent you some detaild info about thw runtime 9 problem. Hope it can help you. Yes, this is on a stripped movie (se my PM) but the same arises on the original movie as well, at least on this movie.

[DMagic1]

Thanks for all you efforts. Movie works fine now. No fforward problems at all.

[trebor]

I still get that runtime 9 error as well even with v0.21
It comes right away when i click the prepare button and it says:
- VTS_01.0.IFO: 3 349 897 sectors
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
And then... poff, runtime error '9' Subscript out of range
I'm using cce 2.50, avisynth 2.54, EclCCE, MPEG2Dec3.dll
Movie is a PAL movie and so was 2 other i did yesterday. Those 2 worked perfectly but this 3'rd one seems imposible

Oops, missed this...
1. 0.21
2. CCE 2.50
3. Y
4. See above ^^
5. Can't use since program crashed

Oh, and thanks for a VERY promising proggie :D

[DMagic1]

1. DVD-RB v.021
2. Rejig
3. no
4. During playback, at the beginning of every chapter the video skips and pixilates. Sometimes it shows green blocks or lines. This is only visable on a stand alone player.

This is something I notice back before the latest version but I assumed it was related to the fforwared problems. It appears its a sperate problem.

Probably becaus of this problem, PowerDVD will not let you rewind past the start of some chapters.

[quantum]

Originally posted by DMagic1
4. During playback, at the beginning of every chapter the video skips and pixilates. Sometimes it shows green blocks or lines. This is only visable on a stand alone player.I noticed this too on my standalone. It looked so odd I figured it must have been a media problem or something so I didn't mention it.

[=coDec=]

@jdobbs

Firstly, thank you for sharing :)

1. DVD-RB v.021
2. CCE V2.67.0.23
3. Yes
4. During fast forward playback freezes at the start of every new chapter. Pressing play resumes play, until next chapter when the freeze ooccurs again. This repeats throughout the film. Playback suffers the same symptoms.

Menu functions perfectly.

Film: Serpico Region 2 (PAL)

Thanks again.

Standalone player: Alba DVD108 - no problems with other proggies-
DVDShrink, CloneDVD2 trial, etc.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by =coDec=

4. During fast forward playback freezes at the start of every new chapter. Pressing play resumes play, until next chapter when the freeze ooccurs again. This repeats throughout the film. Playback suffers the same symptoms.


Thats one test I hadn't tried yet. I tested this and yes I have similar problems. When I fforward it skips one chapter at the start of the next chapter.

[DMagic1]

@jdobbs

BTW, these two chapter problems seem to be related. Once again these problems are not visiable on my Toshiba but are visible on the other 4 dvd players I have. That means you probably wont see them on your standalones. I think the best way for you to come close to seeing the problem is to try to rewind in PowerDVD past chapter points. You can get past a few points but most of them will freeze.

[hypo20]

@jdobbs

I really appreciate your work, but after "testing weekend" (poor DVD+RW, erased and recorded soooo much) I must say DVD-BR is not usable for me at this time because of:

- audio in compressed titlesets is not working in standalone for me
- there's big problem with stills, standalone is stopping after 1st title

Nothing against your work, it's a GREAT tool indeed. You want help with something, just tell me. :)

GRRRRRRRRRREAT WORK from YOU.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by hypo20
@jdobbs

I really appreciate your work, but after "testing weekend" (poor DVD+RW, erased and recorded soooo much) I must say DVD-BR is not usable for me at this time because of:

- audio in compressed titlesets is not working in standalone for me
- there's big problem with stills, standalone is stopping after 1st title

Nothing against your work, it's a GREAT tool indeed. You want help with something, just tell me. :)

GRRRRRRRRRREAT WORK from YOU.

You have to remember this is still a very early beta. Its hasnt even been a full week yet. Problems are getting resolved everyday he works on this. You have to give it more time. Rome wasnt built in a day. ;)

[oCe]

Originally posted by hypo20
@jdobbs

I really appreciate your work, but after "testing weekend" (poor DVD+RW, erased and recorded soooo much) I must say DVD-BR is not usable for me at this time because of:

- audio in compressed titlesets is not working in standalone for me
- there's big problem with stills, standalone is stopping after 1st title

Nothing against your work, it's a GREAT tool indeed. You want help with something, just tell me. :)

GRRRRRRRRRREAT WORK from YOU.

Now that you mention it... what I've posted earlier, that in my Pioneer DV-360 only the 1st title of the tested dvd was played... the 2nd title is a still image! So my guess would be that something goes wrong with stills then, perhaps worth a look?

to add the asked questions:

1. 0.21
2. cce v2.67
3. yes
4. bugs described in quoted parts

[jdobbs]

Thanks for all the help, guys. I'm a little burned out so I'm going to take a break for the rest of tonight. Tomorrow evening I'll go back to the code and find out:

1. Why the audio seems to not work on some players.
2. Why the FF and RW over chapter points isn't working correctly
3. Why some folks are getting the '9' errors

I will also look at:

1. Add proper support for still frames, interleaving, and button over video.
2. Better bit allocation algorithms for cells
3. Automatically recognizing and adding (interlaced=true)

Again, thanks. If I can get past the remaining bugs above I think I'll be close to the first real release of this thing.

[jdobbs]

Now that you mention it... what I've posted earlier, that in my Pioneer DV-360 only the 1st title of the tested dvd was played... the 2nd title is a still image! So my guess would be that something goes wrong with stills then, perhaps worth a look? No doubt. I need to sort out my terrible handling of stills. I think this may be a major part of the remaining problems.

[DMagic1]

As a temporary fix, I found that running the output movie thru Shrink fixes the chapter point skipping video problems and may fix sound problem for others.

Shrink usually wouldn't accept the movie. It would say failed to open VTS_01_6.VOB, where VTS_01_5.VOB was the last VOB in the movie.

I got around this by adding a blank VOB named to the name Shrink was requesting. This blank VOB seems to need 6 vob_ids in it or more. At least for my movie it did. Any less and Shrink would ask for VTS_01_7.VOB.

Once the blank VOB was added Shrink accepted the movie and I set everything for no compression. The final result didnt have the fake VOB that I added at all.

I didn't know if everyone knew this or not but I thought I'd share the info. As I said this is just a temp solution. I hope that jdobbs bangs out the rest of the bugs soon.

[hypo20]

I know it's very early beta and I'm happy for this baby. :)

JDOBBS = LORD OF THE CCE :D

I'm gracefull for this. :)

I know I'm repeating it everytime, but GREAT WORK!!! Few bugs to soft out, but GREAT.

[MickeyNBK]

Getting "Run-time error '75': Path file access error" on Scooby Doo Where Are You disc 1 of Season 1/2.

Using CCE 2.66 SP, ECLCCE & DVDRB .18 and .21.

Everything is stored in on VTS with 10 PCGs. PCG01 is the play all option for all of the episodes (all seven episodes together). PCG04 - PCG10 contain each individual episode.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by MickeyNBK
Getting "Run-time error '75': Path file access error" on Scooby Doo Where Are You disc 1 of Season 1/2.

Using CCE 2.66 SP, ECLCCE & DVDRB .18 and .21.

Everything is stored in on VTS with 10 PCGs. PCG01 is the play all option for all of the episodes (all seven episodes together). PCG04 - PCG10 contain each individual episode. I could use some more info:

1. Where was the process when it happened -- Prepare, Encode, Rebuild?

2. Did you run any utilities on it (for example to strip streams) before running DVD-RB?

3. Is it an ISO mounted like a drive?

4. What were the paths involved?

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

I got around this by adding a blank VOB named to the name Shrink was requesting. This blank VOB seems to need 6 vob_ids in it or more. At least for my movie it did. Any less and Shrink would ask for VTS_01_7.VOB. :) Well at least I'm pretty sure that one isn't my fault...

[broken_bricks]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.21
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: After it went through all the encoding I get this error "Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer"
When I hit Ok I get "Stop statement encountered"
Then I hit ok and the program disappears.

Any idea what might cause this?

Thanks.

[KungFuCow]

Something Ive noticed when attempting to run the finished RB output through a transcoder to "fix" things is that most of the transcoding software seems to think that the audio tracks that were omitted are still there. For example, I have DVDRB set up to remove everything that isnt English.

However, when running the movie back through both Roxio DVD Copier and DVD95Copy (DVDShrink wont even load the movie), it still shows a French audio stream that is 420MB or so and every time, the transcoder is making the output ~420ishMB too small.

Could this be related to any of the audio problems people are having?

[bramswell]

@jdobbs
just got 'runtime error '9' subscript out of range' when rebuilding.
lotr pal striped the movie only and 1 audio in shrink
v0.19 using cce2.50 (one click) tried switching to rejig and rebuilding and same error
first disc tried was godfather pal using v0.16 with menus and worked fine
then tried gone in 60 seconds pal using v0.19 -with menus and extras- could only select main movie and would skip chapters and jump back to menu or turn off.
also noticed the VIDEO_TS folder after encode for lort was 5.80 gb before rebuild..is this correct?

Bramswell

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Something Ive noticed when attempting to run the finished RB output through a transcoder to "fix" things is that most of the transcoding software seems to think that the audio tracks that were omitted are still there. For example, I have DVDRB set up to remove everything that isnt English.

However, when running the movie back through both Roxio DVD Copier and DVD95Copy (DVDShrink wont even load the movie), it still shows a French audio stream that is 420MB or so and every time, the transcoder is making the output ~420ishMB too small.

Could this be related to any of the audio problems people are having?

Thats normal. If I run a CloneDVD output thru RB, it thinks the audio is still there also.

[robgarib]

For testing your program i have tried to encode "Daredevil disk 1" with DVD Rebuilder 0.16 + CCE 2.67.00.23 Trial+ECLCCE but the program crashed at the beginning of the rebuilding.
My second test was with DVD Rebuilder 0.21 + QuEnc 0.41 and this time after finished rebuilding segment 41 and in the log file appairs "Updating information in navpacks" the program crashes with this warning window: "Error in update ifo: shouldn't happen - contact developper".
The result was a 2,91 gb video_ts folder with all the menus and only 49' of movie (folder opened with Power Dvd 5).

[MickeyNBK]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I could use some more info:

1. Where was the process when it happened -- Prepare, Encode, Rebuild?

2. Did you run any utilities on it (for example to strip streams) before running DVD-RB?

3. Is it an ISO mounted like a drive?

4. What were the paths involved?

Thanks.

1. Rebuild

2. I mounted the ISO with DVD-Decryptor

3. Yes see 2

Actually after ripping the files to a folder and re-running the rebuild process and pointing to that folder as the source it ran fine. I just tested the disc and it appears to play back just like the original.

[Raymongo]

1. Disney's Dumbo / Pal / Version 0.21
2. CCE 2.67.0023 SP Full
3. Yes
4. Runtime error '9' subscript out of range during rebuilding phase at 60%

[Kakashi Sensei]

now that i have read what some people are doing i am 100% sure the Error:9 Subscript out of range is due to stripping the DVD before using DVD-RB. I have had 1 success and 1 failure. The one succes was the whole DVD of Angel Season 1 D1, The failure was a stripped copy of of Out of sight. I will try the whole DVD but i'm almost possitive that it will work.

[lab-one]

now that i have read what some people are doing i am 100% sure the Error:9 Subscript out of range is due to stripping the DVD before using DVD-RB. I have had 1 success and 1 failure. The one succes was the whole DVD of Angel Season 1 D1, The failure was a stripped copy of of Out of sight. I will try the whole DVD but i'm almost possitive that it will work.

Maybe I have been lucky but the 3 movies I have tried:

NTSC
Veronica Guerin
Cold Creek Manor
Pirates of the Caribbean

I have used DVDShrink 3.0 Beta 5 to remove everything but the main movie and 2 audio streams. Each back-up has worked fine except for the known issues with FF/RW.

DVDShrink 3.0 Beta 5
DBD-RB V0.17, V0.18, v0.21 (1 click mode)
CCE-SP 2.50
EclCCE
Image Tool Classic
DVD Decrypter to burn

....so much for 1 click....

[Edit]: I have never encountered the "Error:9".

[Kakashi Sensei]

thats b/c dvd shrink doesnt remove any thing. It just still frames the extras and leave the structure still fully intact. The people that stripped it, either removed the vobs completely and deleted/disabled the buttons going to those locations.

[Raymongo]

Originally posted by Kakashi Sensei
now that i have read what some people are doing i am 100% sure the Error:9 Subscript out of range is due to stripping the DVD before using DVD-RB. I have had 1 success and 1 failure. The one succes was the whole DVD of Angel Season 1 D1, The failure was a stripped copy of of Out of sight. I will try the whole DVD but i'm almost possitive that it will work.


Well that may be so i your case but i did this with a original dvd. and i still get the run-time error 9

[Kakashi Sensei]

did you do it straight from the DVD or decrypt it with DVD Decryptor?

[JvD]

Like I said before (and PM:ed jdobbs), I get the runtime error 9 on both stripped and non-stripped movie (Breakfast at Tiffanys). Decryptet in filemode (dvddecrypter) to hdd and then stripped out the extras.

[NobbyNobbs]

The runtime error 9 seem to be most common during rebuilding of the DVD, when the program encounters a PGC containing stills.
jdobbs is working on it.

[Raymongo]

Originally posted by Kakashi Sensei
did you do it straight from the DVD or decrypt it with DVD Decryptor?

It first decrypted it with dvd decrypter in file mode.

But i also tried it using ReJig and again during rebuilding the error occoured.

@NobbyNobbs
Its true thats disney's Dumbo has a photogalerie. This is found in VTS 3 and VTS 3 is fully rebuild. It stopped rebuilding after VTS 4 and i don't know if VTS 4 has stills in it.

[petesafool]

Hi -

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.21
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.66.01.07
3. Using eclCCE? Y

I've experienced a lot of the bugs others have had upto version 1.6 after which DVD-RB has worked sweet.

My only failure since has been PIRATES OF THE CARIBEAN/R2/PAL/disc 1 (i notice someone has already done this succesfully). It plays perfectly under PowerDVD5. Falls over in the LAST 5 MIN on my cheapo Venturer standalone and skips from the start in my usually perfect Yamaha.

I think there is a still frame used for the intro to the trailer for Bruce Almighty which relates to the ff/rw errors already mentioned.

If anyones interested I also tried this with and without the DVD-ROM extras which i accomodated by editing the master ECL file bitrate in 3 STEP mode.

[joaoccc]

Hello


I'm trying to make a backup of Pirates of the carabien R2/PAL.
In the computer all are ok, but in my Philips, it apears the first menu, then goes to the small video of digital mastered, the go to first menu, and continues like this. in my Pioneer it apears the first menu, go to the Legal Warnings and the stops.

I'm using rb .021 with eclcce with ce 2.67.023

Regards

[Pstelios]

Tried to backup The Gladiator....
Passed it from DVDStripper to remove only the warnings.
Passed it from DVDshrink just to remove Dolby digital.
Passed it from DVDrebuilder and...chaos.
Shows only director's comments as language (but it plays DTS), gives navigation errors, etc.

Tried to pass it from DVD2one to correct errors if possible but..."cannot find VIDEO_TS.ifo"...

Any help?

:confused:

[t1955feb]

Tried new version dvd-rbv022 runtime error 9 prepare dvd ripped dvd in file mode DVD-Decryptor

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pstelios
Tried to backup The Gladiator....
Passed it from DVDStripper to remove only the warnings.
Passed it from DVDshrink just to remove Dolby digital.
Passed it from DVDrebuilder and...chaos.
Shows only director's comments as language (but it plays DTS), gives navigation errors, etc.

Tried to pass it from DVD2one to correct errors if possible but..."cannot find VIDEO_TS.ifo"...

Any help?

:confused: Yes. Too much passing. If you could just take the original and use DVD Rebuilder on it... I can't identify bugs that may be generated by other software.

[Pedro Gouveia]

jdobbs. I found the bug related to audio problems (no audio) in some dvd players like Pioneer dv360 and in Media Player Classic. It's because the Pes HeaderData in AC3-Audio Packs information is not correctly written. It should start with byte 21h and not with byte 31h. After a hexstring replace in VOBS of "EC 81 81 08 31" by "EC 81 81 08 21" AND "EC 81 80 05 31" by "EC 81 80 05 21" all sound problems were gone. BTW Excelent work u made with DVD-RB. Thanx.

[hypo20]

Great!!! Can you describe, how to do it???? Let jdobbs save some work. :sly:

[quantum]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
jdobbs. I found the bug related to audio problems (no audio) in some dvd players like Pioneer dv360 and in Media Player Classic. Can I assume this is not addressed in version 0.22 beta?

[Pedro Gouveia]

I just did open each VOB_XX_[1-9].VOB in UltraEdit and made the hexstring replace.

"EC 81 81 08 31" -> "EC 81 81 08 21"
and
"EC 81 80 05 31" -> "EC 81 80 05 21"

That will change the Pes HeaderData in AC3-Audio Packs to the correct values.

I've notice that ifoedit, PowerDVD, DVD Shrink, Nero Recode, don't need the correct values for playing audio. But Media Player Classic and my DVD player (Pioneer DV360) only play audio with the correct values.

RB Version used 0.22 beta

[Pedro Gouveia]

Another possible bug??

Using CCE SP 2.67.00.23 Trial + EclCCE 1.7b + RB 0.22 the number of VBR passes is always 2 (The CCE Customized Settings doesn't work).

update:
Temporary fix. Before Encoding Process, edit REBUILDER.ECL end change lines containing vbr_pass=?

[hypo20]

Can you post me UltraEdit??? Can't find it. :o) PM me if yes. :o)

[KungFuCow]

Google is your friend

http://www.ultraedit.com/

[hypo20]

Yeah. But donwload is not working. :)

[KungFuCow]

Works okay for me. Are you trying to get a localized version?

[DMagic1]

@jdobbs

I just did a CCE project and the video skipping problem at the beginning of each chapter is there even when using CCE. So its not just limited to Rejig.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
jdobbs. I found the bug related to audio problems (no audio) in some dvd players like Pioneer dv360 and in Media Player Classic. It's because the Pes HeaderData in AC3-Audio Packs information is not correctly written. It should start with byte 21h and not with byte 31h. After a hexstring replace in VOBS of "EC 81 81 08 31" by "EC 81 81 08 21" AND "EC 81 80 05 31" by "EC 81 80 05 21" all sound problems were gone. BTW Excelent work u made with DVD-RB. Thanx. Hmmm... I'll look at it when I get home. But I don't see how it happens. I don't even modify the AC3 stream except to change the PTS and/or SCR...

[oCe]

Well, I've rebuild Basic again, with version 0.22 now. The files where build with version 0.21; but both the audio not playing at pioneer standalone and the stopping at still frame problems remain. Will redo the entire project now, from scratch with version 0.22. Will post results later, somewhere tomorrow probably. (work...) :)

[acido]

@jdobbs,DMagic1

Same here
my major problem is chapter skipping either selecting chapters from menus or by NEXT button on the standalone this affects rejig and CCE encodes.
Once inserted play starts in different points compared with results with PowerDVD 5 on the pc. For example on the PC the movie starts from the menus (correct) instead on the standalone it starts from the DOLBY logo without sound, then after some time menus comes out.
Another thing i can confirm is that VIDEO_TS contents created by DVD-RB cannot be used as input for dvdshrink or clonedvd, errors on vobs are reported by both programs.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
Another possible bug??

Using CCE SP 2.67.00.23 Trial + EclCCE 1.7b + RB 0.22 the number of VBR passes is always 2 (The CCE Customized Settings doesn't work).

update:
Temporary fix. Before Encoding Process, edit REBUILDER.ECL end change lines containing vbr_pass=? I'll look at that tonight. It used to work. Does it change in the INI file?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by oCe
Well, I've rebuild Basic again, with version 0.22 now. The files where build with version 0.21; but both the audio not playing at pioneer standalone and the stopping at still frame problems remain. Will redo the entire project now, from scratch with version 0.22. Will post results later, somewhere tomorrow probably. (work...) :) Probably won't help. The changes were mostly in the rebuild process.

All,

Is this common? I'm not seeing it at all and I've done a lot of discs since starting this.:confused:

[quantum]

I did a full re-encode with CCE using 0.22 and still no audio on my Pioneer DV-260. However I do have audio in my Toshiba SD-3750 so there's something going on that is causing problems with certain players. Strange artifacts are visible on the Pioneer when I advance chapters. These are not visible on the Toshiba.

@jdobbs: This would explain why you don't notice it. Your player(s) obviously are not affected.

[djan]

Originally posted by quantum
I did a full re-encode with CCE using 0.22 and still no audio on my Pioneer DV-260. However I do have audio in my Toshiba SD-3750 so there's something going on that is causing problems with certain players. Strange artifacts are visible on the Pioneer when I advance chapters. These are not visible on the Toshiba.

@jdobbs: This would explain why you don't notice it. Your player(s) obviously are not affected. We all know that Pioneer drives are poor and Toshiba's are much better. So there is your explanation.

[oCe]

Originally posted by djan
We all know that Pioneer drives are poor and Toshiba's are much better. So there is your explanation.

Well, I disagree with you on this. I have no problems what so ever at all with my Pioneer DV-360. The original movie plays fine, without problems. The copy's made with Nero Recode 1 and 2, DVD-Shrink, InstantCopy, Ifoedit (manual movie extraction) etc play perfectly, without problems. Just Rebuilder is causing problems at the moment, not only with audio, but with still-images too. On my Philips 625 it plays fine though, have to admin that; but that doesn't necessarily mean the Pioneer is worse. Maybe it's even better, in obeying standards perhaps. But well, that's totally offtopic now.

@jdobbs: i'm being stubborn and still trying the full rebuild, maybe it helps for one of the problems at least ;) Otherwise, I'm always willing to help test.

[acido]

Originally posted by acido
@jdobbs,DMagic1

Same here
my major problem is chapter skipping either selecting chapters from menus or by NEXT button on the standalone this affects rejig and CCE encodes.
Once inserted play starts in different points compared with results with PowerDVD 5 on the pc. For example on the PC the movie starts from the menus (correct) instead on the standalone it starts from the DOLBY logo without sound, then after some time menus comes out.
Another thing i can confirm is that VIDEO_TS contents created by DVD-RB cannot be used as input for dvdshrink or clonedvd, errors on vobs are reported by both programs.

@jdobbs
Tried DVD-RB 0.22 + Rejig 0.5e + same problematic movie
You are on the right way !!!
- Skipping problem still the same
BUT
- Now the DVD play starts from menus as occurs on the PC with PowerDVD ;-) and selecting to play the movie from the beginning i can enjoy it !!!
-Errors analyzing DVD-RB produced VOBS still reported by dvdshrink

[DMagic1]

I have a Pioneer and a Toshiba. They are different models than what quantum has. Audio works on both. The chapter problem doesn't affect the Toshiba but it does affect my Pioneer, my Sony, my XBOX, and my PS2. The Toshiba is the oldest of all the DVD players I have.

[djan]

Hi,

I have a little problem. All has been encoded and rebuilded correctly but I can't burn the files. I can't even open the files in DVD Shrink. Here is the message DVD Shrink is giving : Invalid data in file "S:\RB\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_1.VOB" Overlapped I/O operation is in progress. Thx to help me to correct this annoying problem.

[DMagic1]

What does that have to do with you not being able to burn them?

[oCe]

Originally posted by acido
@jdobbs
Tried DVD-RB 0.22 + Rejig 0.5e + same problematic movie
You are on the right way !!!
- Skipping problem still the same
BUT
- Now the DVD play starts from menus as occurs on the PC with PowerDVD ;-) and selecting to play the movie from the beginning i can enjoy it !!!
-Errors analyzing DVD-RB produced VOBS still reported by dvdshrink

Since you mention it, totally forgot...

Burning the dvd which was builded with version 0.21 causes no problems with Nero, but with version 0.22 is does. This is a copy of the log which is created with Nero when burning the files as dvd-video. (Nero v6.3.1.6)

23.3.2004
UDF/ISO compilation
20:09:49 #1 Phase 112 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
DVD-Video files reallocation started

20:09:49 #2 DVDREALLOC -124 File DVDVideoCompilation.cpp, Line 1177

20:09:49 #3 Phase 115 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
DVD-Video files reallocation failed

20:09:50 #4 Phase 132 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
DVD-Video files compliance ignored

haven't got any other usefull information though...

[djan]

I don't understand what you mean but I can't make a DVD from the output files. It's the first time it happens. I never encoutered this problem before.

[acido]

Originally posted by oCe
Since you mention it, totally forgot...

Burning the dvd which was builded with version 0.21 causes no problems with Nero, but with version 0.22 is does. This is a copy of the log which is created with Nero when burning the files as dvd-video. (Nero v6.3.1.6)


Just created the DVD with same nero version (6.3.1.6) DVD-RB 0.22
without problems (DVD-Video project) !
9:57:49 PM #16 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Caching of files started
9:57:49 PM #17 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4214
Cache writing successful.
9:57:49 PM #18 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Caching of files completed
9:57:49 PM #19 Phase 65 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1841
Burn process started

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
jdobbs. I found the bug related to audio problems (no audio) in some dvd players like Pioneer dv360 and in Media Player Classic. It's because the Pes HeaderData in AC3-Audio Packs information is not correctly written. It should start with byte 21h and not with byte 31h. After a hexstring replace in VOBS of "EC 81 81 08 31" by "EC 81 81 08 21" AND "EC 81 80 05 31" by "EC 81 80 05 21" all sound problems were gone. BTW Excelent work u made with DVD-RB. Thanx. Wow! Dude! You are right. How in the hell did you find this? As I said earlier I am inserting a new PTS. The 21h you mentioned is the high order byte of the PTS. The second lsb of the upper nibble (the difference between 2 and 3) is an indicator of a DTS (Decoding Time Stamp) accompanying the PTS (Presentation Time Stamp). I forgot to adjust for this in audio frames.

YOU ARE THE MAN PEDRO!!! YOU JUST SAVED ME HOURS...

I'll have the fix in and uploaded in a few minutes!

[Purplered]

i have this damn error code 9, subscript.... error...

allways error code 9 when RB is tryin to rebuild the file.

hope this prob is solved in the near future

greets
Purplered

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Probably won't help. The changes were mostly in the rebuild process.

All,

Is this common? I'm not seeing it at all and I've done a lot of discs since starting this.:confused:

Every disc I have burned for my Liteon and Xbox have had the FFWD/RWD problem. The only way I have been able to fix it is to run it through DVD95Copy before I burn it.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
Another possible bug??

Using CCE SP 2.67.00.23 Trial + EclCCE 1.7b + RB 0.22 the number of VBR passes is always 2 (The CCE Customized Settings doesn't work).

update:
Temporary fix. Before Encoding Process, edit REBUILDER.ECL end change lines containing vbr_pass=? I think you may be looking at a left over setting in your REBUILDER.INI file. I used to have the eclpasses= setting in the [Options] area, but now have a new area called [CCEOptions] -- if you look at that one you'll see that it changes. It should also be reflected in the .ECL file (actually the ECL will show eclpasses minus 1).

Thanks again for your help

[troy]

Trying to back up the movie "Holes". The main dvd is about 7.12gb.

I got the script out of range error using v0.21 beta with cce sp 2.66 trial version using eclcce. I dont know why but dvd2dvdr has never been able to work with this cce version either. This cce version will encode perfectly using just an avisynth script.

I tried to use CCE sp2.5 with eclcce and everything went good. The problem is that the whole video ts folder is only 2.33gb. I know this is probably a complicated dvd to back up because it has some previews and extras in it but bug reported.

[sidders]

Don't know if its me, but does DVD-RB always come up with the same bitrate for extars and the main movie? It's not so easy to change the in CCE as you now have loads of files to encode. Any way to get around this?
Sorry if I've missed something here.....

[Pstelios]

@jdobbs :

I thought you were right so i ripped Gladiator again, and Won the prize No 9 ehhh... error Number 9 i ment.
So i tried to use Version 018, the same...
Changed cce to 25, the same...

But i'll keep on trying with every new version you publish, I'm used to be beta tester...

Anyway thank you for your work...I'll be here to feed you with bugs

[cptshamrock]

I have the same problem when trying to burn as djan does, with shrink, and oce, with nero burning. Also, get the same error message when trying to run it through dvdshrink (Do this to possibly correct any dvd structure errors that is preventing Nero from burning). using rb .22 cce 2.66 ecl 1.7b and latest version of nero.

[jdobbs]

Attached is the latest beta, version 0.23 which includes the audio bug fix:


- Corrected PTS problem associated with PES headers in audio packs. My hat is off to Pedro Gouveia for finding this error. He not only pointed out the problem -- but pointed to the solution. This should fix the problems with audio not playing on certain systems.

ATTACHMENT DELETED AFTER 1247 DOWNLOADS.

TO GET THE NEWEST VERSION GO TO THE FIRST POST OF THIS THREAD

[hypo20]

See the biiiiig original forum for DVD-BR. There's the solution. :o)

In fact, you must run every VTS_XX_0.IFO through IfoEdit -> VOB Extras -> Check CORRECT VOB NAV PACKS -> Check CORRECT ORIGINAL IFO'S -> Uncheck AUTOCOPY MENUS and then just run. Everything other you should leave as it is.

[hypo20]

@jdobbs

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU!!!!

NOW IT'S USEABLE TO ME ON DVD'S WITHOUT STILLS. :o)

[KungFuCow]

I hope you guys have been hitting that DONATE button considering all the hard work JDobbs has been doing. I think I was the first person to donate to him and Ive yet to make a working backup of anything. Even still watching the determination he's showing here, Im inclined to donate again.

In summary, DONATE!

[hypo20]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
I hope you guys have been hitting that DONATE button considering all the hard work JDobbs has been doing. I think I was the first person to donate to him and Ive yet to make a working backup of anything. Even still watching the determination he's showing here, Im inclined to donate again.

In summary, DONATE!

I'm from Slovakia so I can't use PayPal. :o( If there's any other way, I'll be first in the row. :o)

[robw]

I just made my contribution. Thanks for the reminder!

[Purplered]

this is what i get every time i want to use RB

http://membres.lycos.fr/ch402/err9.jpg

Purplered

[brikin]

DVD Rebuilder v0.23
QuEnc 0.43

Problem:
When I press Rebuild I get a "Run Time error '5' Invalid procedure call or argument error" that closes the program down.

I see the progress bar go up for VTS_01_00.VOB to 100% then it flips to VTS_03_01.VOB really quick and throws this error. This all happens within 3 seconds of pushing the button. In the status window I see

Copying IFO, BUP, and menu files...
Processing VTS_01
Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1

Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks for the tool

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
I hope you guys have been hitting that DONATE button considering all the hard work JDobbs has been doing. I think I was the first person to donate to him and Ive yet to make a working backup of anything. Even still watching the determination he's showing here, Im inclined to donate again.

In summary, DONATE!

Good to mention it. Some people may not even know its there. As soon as I found the button back in the 2nd or 3rd version I had to make on.

[acido]

Originally posted by acido
@jdobbs
Tried DVD-RB 0.22 + Rejig 0.5e + same problematic movie
You are on the right way !!!
- Skipping problem still the same
BUT
- Now the DVD play starts from menus as occurs on the PC with PowerDVD ;-) and selecting to play the movie from the beginning i can enjoy it !!!
-Errors analyzing DVD-RB produced VOBS still reported by dvdshrink

SOLVED also chapters SKIPPING !!!
by running every VTS_XX_0.IFO through IfoEdit -> VOB Extras -> Check CORRECT VOB NAV PACKS -> Check CORRECT ORIGINAL IFO'S -> Uncheck AUTOCOPY MENUS and then just run. Everything other you should leave as it is.
.
It REALLY WORKS ! now the DVD on my standalone plays flawlessly !
and also DVDSHRINK is no more reporting errors on the fixed VIDEO_TS
.
Hope this helps jdobbs finding the problem !

[KungFuCow]

You should try comparing the old vobs and new vobs and see how many differences there are.

I may do that when this movie finishes and see for myself.

[quantum]

0.23 audio is working on Pioneer standalone.

Now looking closer at the chapter problem. On every chapter change there is pixelation and jerkiness that goes away in a second or two. This happens if the chapter point is jumped to or if it reaches the chapter point by normal time.

This didn't appear to happen on the Toshiba standalone so this looks like another bit of weirdness that needs to be tracked down and fixed.

[lab-one]

@quantum

0.23 audio is working on Pioneer standalone.

Now looking closer at the chapter problem. On every chapter change there is pixelation and jerkiness that goes away in a second or two. This happens if the chapter point is jumped to or if it reaches the chapter point by normal time.

This didn't appear to happen on the Toshiba standalone so this looks like another bit of weirdness that needs to be tracked down and fixed.

I've noticed on my Sony DVP-NS725P that I do not get the blocking and pixelation when playing through chapter changes, only when FF/RW through them. Weird. I haven't had any problems with the audio either.

[robw]

@purplered

run regedit and search for
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Avisynth\plugindir2_5

this is your avisynth dir.

be sure your unzipped decodefix.zip is put into this dir or change the registry to reflect where these files are stored.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
SOLVED also chapters SKIPPING !!!
by running every VTS_XX_0.IFO through IfoEdit -> VOB Extras -> Check CORRECT VOB NAV PACKS -> Check CORRECT ORIGINAL IFO'S -> Uncheck AUTOCOPY MENUS and then just run. Everything other you should leave as it is.
.
It REALLY WORKS ! now the DVD on my standalone plays flawlessly !
and also DVDSHRINK is no more reporting errors on the fixed VIDEO_TS
.
Hope this helps jdobbs finding the problem ! Hey thanks. This will help a lot. I'm going to run a couple of tests and see what differences I see! Have you tried it with only one of the two (CORRECT NAVPACKS or IFOs)? I have to believe it is the NAVPACK alone causing the problem.

[Raymongo]

Originally posted by acido
SOLVED also chapters SKIPPING !!!
by running every VTS_XX_0.IFO through IfoEdit -> VOB Extras -> Check CORRECT VOB NAV PACKS -> Check CORRECT ORIGINAL IFO'S -> Uncheck AUTOCOPY MENUS and then just run. Everything other you should leave as it is.
.
It REALLY WORKS ! now the DVD on my standalone plays flawlessly !
and also DVDSHRINK is no more reporting errors on the fixed VIDEO_TS
.
Hope this helps jdobbs finding the problem !

It also solved the FFWD/RWD problem, in my case, as discribed is other posts.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
SOLVED also chapters SKIPPING !!!
by running every VTS_XX_0.IFO through IfoEdit -> VOB Extras -> Check CORRECT VOB NAV PACKS -> Check CORRECT ORIGINAL IFO'S -> Uncheck AUTOCOPY MENUS and then just run. Everything other you should leave as it is.
.
It REALLY WORKS ! now the DVD on my standalone plays flawlessly !
and also DVDSHRINK is no more reporting errors on the fixed VIDEO_TS
.
Hope this helps jdobbs finding the problem ! I'm close to fixing this. It appears I have incorrectly calculated the first, second, and third reference frame end blocks. These are used for fast playing.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by acido
SOLVED also chapters SKIPPING !!!
by running every VTS_XX_0.IFO through IfoEdit -> VOB Extras -> Check CORRECT VOB NAV PACKS -> Check CORRECT ORIGINAL IFO'S -> Uncheck AUTOCOPY MENUS and then just run. Everything other you should leave as it is.
.
It REALLY WORKS ! now the DVD on my standalone plays flawlessly !
and also DVDSHRINK is no more reporting errors on the fixed VIDEO_TS
.
Hope this helps jdobbs finding the problem !

Isn't that the part "every VTS_XX_0.IFO through IfoEdit -> VOB Extras -> Check CORRECT VOB NAV PACKS -> Check CORRECT ORIGINAL IFO'S -> Uncheck AUTOCOPY MENUS and then just run. Everything other you should leave as it is." exact copy of my post on the same page???

I think....YES!!!!! I was writing about it few times, and somebody before me too. :cool:

@jdobbs
Now it seems, we have only one major problem. Stills. :)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by hypo20
Isn't that the part "every VTS_XX_0.IFO through IfoEdit -> VOB Extras -> Check CORRECT VOB NAV PACKS -> Check CORRECT ORIGINAL IFO'S -> Uncheck AUTOCOPY MENUS and then just run. Everything other you should leave as it is." exact copy of my post on the same page???

I think....YES!!!!! I was writing about it few times, and somebody before me too. :cool:

@jdobbs
Now it seems, we have only one major problem. Stills. :) Which shall be conquered soon! Then on to seamless branching and angles.

And YOU'RE RIGHT!!! I apologize profusely for not crediting you!

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Which shall be conquered soon! Then on to seamless branching and angles. After bugs, shouldn't adjustable bitrate for extras be the first enhancement?

[robw]

Well JDobbs, you're the programmer and I bow to your wishes on DVD-RB. But just a humble second to Quantum's request on bitrates for extras. That would be more useful for the "typical" user IMHO. If you decide to address seamless branching, I'll still be a very happy camper.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Which shall be conquered soon! Then on to seamless branching and angles.

And YOU'RE RIGHT!!! I apologize profusely for not crediting you!

@jdobbs

It was not to you. :) It was to ACIDO.
This is not about crediting me or someone else. But when someone just copy and paste someone else's post (or it's main part) and then publish it as his own....that's what I'm not accepting. I didn't said, that correcting VOB NAV PACKS was mine idea. It in some post on the early stage of forum (when v0.16 was released). I have only tested it and post here, that works. :) All I am doing is telling it to next people, which hasn't read it. But I'm not telling "I SOLVED THE PROBLEM!!!".

But this is off-topic. :) Let's test new version of YOUR baby. :D

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
After bugs, shouldn't adjustable bitrate for extras be the first enhancement? Ok. I'll take the advice of to you and robw and work on that next. But first the bugs. Right now I'm fixing the ff/rw bug, I know exactly what it is -- but it's late and I'm getting punch drunk so I'm going to leave the correction until tomorrow. Next I'll clean up the stills (which I believe are also the cause of the runtime '9' error during rebuild).

[jdobbs]

@hypo20This is not about crediting me or someone else. But when someone just copy and paste someone else's post (or it's main part) and then publish it as his own....that's what I'm not accepting. I didn't said, that correcting VOB NAV PACKS was mine idea. It in some post on the early stage of forum (when v0.16 was released). I have only tested it and post here, that works. All I am doing is telling it to next people, which hasn't read it. But I'm not telling "I SOLVED THE PROBLEM!!!".At any rate it pointed directly to the problem. All I had to do was run IFOEdit against my output, compare it to a first run with a file compare -- and it pointed me directly to the error. I'm just happy to be putting this one behind me.

[djan]

Originally posted by acido
SOLVED also chapters SKIPPING !!!
by running every VTS_XX_0.IFO through IfoEdit -> VOB Extras -> Check CORRECT VOB NAV PACKS -> Check CORRECT ORIGINAL IFO'S -> Uncheck AUTOCOPY MENUS and then just run. Everything other you should leave as it is.
.
It REALLY WORKS ! now the DVD on my standalone plays flawlessly !
and also DVDSHRINK is no more reporting errors on the fixed VIDEO_TS
.
Hope this helps jdobbs finding the problem ! I solved this problem with only pushing "Get VTS Sectors" in IfoEdit.

[bigskank]

any thoughts about possibly adding support (at some point down the road, as I know requests are piling) of adding support for re-encoding menus?

[2COOL]

@jdobbs

I also have been getting the Runtime error '9', Subscript out of range message. What gets to me is that it always occurs when it processes my VTS_01_1.VOB during rebuild and it doesn't have any stills in it. Interesting, I discovered something that might be a hint.

After I had closed DVD-RB, I played my partial VTS_01_1.VOB in PowerDVD and behold, I got this message in bright red fonts with a black background.

Script error: there is no function named "mpeg2source"
(D:/D2AVS/V01000000001001.AVS, line 5)

:confused: Does anyone see what I see?

Update: I get the same exact message with I open V01000000001001.AVS in VirtualDub. ;) This what I have in the AVS.

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("D:\D2VAVS\V01B.D2V")
trim(0,16336)
ConvertToYUY2()
ResampleAudio(44100)

I'm using DVD-RB v0.23 beta. ;)

[djan]

Same as I had before. You know how I corrected my problem ? I just installed AviSynth 2.54. Try it, maybe you can correct it too. Hope chance.

[SLA]

It should work fine, if the mpeg2dec3 plugin is installed correctly. For some reasons it doesn't work properly in many cases. A workaround would be to add Loadplugin("*pathwithpluginname*") to the top of your .avs

[2COOL]

Update:

OK. It is confirmed that I am using AviSynth 2.54 and DVD2AVIdg. I downloaded both from Doom9 links. Anyways, I was working backwards and analyzing some files prior to Rebuild process. Inspecting the D2Vs files, I found them to be fine because I saw what needed to be seen. But, when I viewed the M2Vs, all I got was the same as my post VTS_01_1.VOB, which was the message

Script error: there is no function named "mpeg2source"
(D:/D2AVS/V01000000001001.AVS, line 5)

It seems something went wrong in the Encode process. With further investigation, I noticed that I didn't have any D2V extensions in my File Types so I added that and pointed to my "DVD2AVIdg.exe" in my AviSynth plugin directory. After starting from scratch, I viewed my first M2V file and I now have my video clip in question. :D

Don't know if this was the big fix by adding the D2V extension and association but will test again when I have deleted the D2V extension in File Types.

[robgarib]

I have encoded 2 dvd with Dvd Rebuilder.
In both cases i don't have any error during the process and the result is a video_ts folder of 4.30 gb with very good quality.
When i test the files on hard disk with power dvd everything is ok but when i burn them on a dvd+rw for testing on a dvd case (philips dvd 612) i don't hear any audio in any language.

These are my settings:

Dvd 1:
Ocean Eleven pal italian-english
dvd rebuilder 0.21
Cce 2.67.00.23 trial + eclcce
Avisinth 2.54 + dvd2avi dg

Dvd 2:
Spiderman disk 1 pal italian-english
dvd rebuilder 0.22
Cce 2.67.00.23 trial + eclcce
Avisinth 2.54 + dvd2avi dg + alternative Mpeg2Dec3

[hypo20]

Originally posted by jdobbs
@hypo20At any rate it pointed directly to the problem. All I had to do was run IFOEdit against my output, compare it to a first run with a file compare -- and it pointed me directly to the error. I'm just happy to be putting this one behind me.

:D

[KungFuCow]

Im running a test now to confirm this but I wanted to toss it out there now just in case before JDobbs checks this in the morning.

I believe that using the "Remove All DTS" option screws up DVD-RB's target sizing. Ive done the same DVD over and over (and over) testing this app and the size has always been spot on. Tonight I tried it with the "Remove All DTS" option ticked and the DVD came out about 800MB too small (And no, the DVD should have still been full sized even without the DTS streams) so I wanted to report on this so JDobbs could check it out.

Anyone else notice this?

[robgarib]

Sorry
i have posted the bug report without viewing before the last pages of the thead where the audio problem is solved with version 0.23.
I'll download it immediately.
Thanks Jdobbs for your beautiful program.

[JvD]

KungFuCow, I noticed the same thing. Didnt really think of it but I say that the produced sets of DVD files was smaller than 4.37, like 1gb or so. This on a movie with five audio tracks. I removed all but one. So I THINK you might have a point.

I tried the new version (0,23) during the night, recoding Reservoir Dogs (Complet, not stripped). I didnt touch anything. Ripped the files and fired DVD-RB away. Went to sleep and woke up to my usual Runtime 9 error. Happy? No! I allways thought that the problem was in the app BUT now I wonder. I cant do anything right now but Ill report back later. Ill try reinstall Avisynth 2.54 and look foth the .avs extension mentioned by 2COOL.

[Pedro Gouveia]

jdobbs thanx 4 the quick fix :)

moving on on bug report. new version 0.23 rebuilds ok... but VTS_XX_0.IFO differs from VTS_XX_0.BUP

In *.BUP
- menu attributes changes
- In VTSI_MAT audio attributes changes, sub-pic_X changes

A Quick fix 4 this is to open all *.IFO in ifoedit and save overwriting *.BUP or use the dos command COPY *.IFO *.BUP
in directory VIDEO_TS just created by RB

[gvittoz]

Hi
Thank you very much for your work...
I installed dvdrb and tried to work but after the first scanning and writing. D2V files it stop with this message: "Erreur d'execution '9': indice en dehors de la plage"

Do you understand ???
My computer is with XP professionnal in French is it important ???

Thanks for your work

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by robgarib
I have encoded 2 dvd with Dvd Rebuilder.
In both cases i don't have any error during the process and the result is a video_ts folder of 4.30 gb with very good quality.
When i test the files on hard disk with power dvd everything is ok but when i burn them on a dvd+rw for testing on a dvd case (philips dvd 612) i don't hear any audio in any language.

These are my settings:

Dvd 1:
Ocean Eleven pal italian-english
dvd rebuilder 0.21
Cce 2.67.00.23 trial + eclcce
Avisinth 2.54 + dvd2avi dg

Dvd 2:
Spiderman disk 1 pal italian-english
dvd rebuilder 0.22
Cce 2.67.00.23 trial + eclcce
Avisinth 2.54 + dvd2avi dg + alternative Mpeg2Dec3 Use the latest version (above 0.23), it fixes the "audio missing" problem.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Im running a test now to confirm this but I wanted to toss it out there now just in case before JDobbs checks this in the morning.

I believe that using the "Remove All DTS" option screws up DVD-RB's target sizing. Ive done the same DVD over and over (and over) testing this app and the size has always been spot on. Tonight I tried it with the "Remove All DTS" option ticked and the DVD came out about 800MB too small (And no, the DVD should have still been full sized even without the DTS streams) so I wanted to report on this so JDobbs could check it out.

Anyone else notice this? Very possible. I'll go back and check it tonight.

[broken_bricks]

Downloaded version 0.23 and still getting the same problem as below, anyone have any idea what it could be.
This is from a homemade 2 Disc DVD-R of a concert that I want to convert to 1 DVD-R with menu.
I extracted both discs renamed the VOB's and used VOBedit to join clips. I then used IFOedit and did the "Get VTS Sectors"

I know this worked because I used Intervideo DVD Copy and it worked and saved the menu's etc...

Any ideas or suggestions why I am getting the "Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer" - seems to happen when it is in the updating ifo, stage if that makes sense.

Thanks.


Originally posted by broken_bricks
1. DVD-R Version: 0.21
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: After it went through all the encoding I get this error "Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer"
When I hit Ok I get "Stop statement encountered"
Then I hit ok and the program disappears.

Any idea what might cause this?

Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by gvittoz
Hi
Thank you very much for your work...
I installed dvdrb and tried to work but after the first scanning and writing. D2V files it stop with this message: "Erreur d'execution '9': indice en dehors de la plage"

Do you understand ???
My computer is with XP professionnal in French is it important ???

Thanks for your work The problem is probably an incorrect installation of AVISYNTH 2.54

[RB]

Originally posted by Purplered
this is what i get every time i want to use RB

http://membres.lycos.fr/ch402/err9.jpg

Purplered
Finding Nemo R2/PAL has multiple angles. As jdobbs stated multiple times, this is not yet supported.

[gvittoz]

thanks for the answer (very quick)
I installed Avisynth normaly in C: programes files
how I have to do

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by broken_bricks
Downloaded version 0.23 and still getting the same problem as below, anyone have any idea what it could be.
This is from a homemade 2 Disc DVD-R of a concert that I want to convert to 1 DVD-R with menu.
I extracted both discs renamed the VOB's and used VOBedit to join clips. I then used IFOedit and did the "Get VTS Sectors"

I know this worked because I used Intervideo DVD Copy and it worked and saved the menu's etc...

Any ideas or suggestions why I am getting the "Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer" - seems to happen when it is in the updating ifo, stage if that makes sense.

Thanks. As I recall this means there is an error in which the IFO is referencing a VOBID/CELLID that does not exist.

[acido]

Originally posted by hypo20
@jdobbs

It was not to you. :) It was to ACIDO.
This is not about crediting me or someone else. But when someone just copy and paste someone else's post (or it's main part) and then publish it as his own....that's what I'm not accepting.

But this is off-topic. :) Let's test new version of YOUR baby. :D

If you read my original post carefully ...
I have NOT TOLD "I SOLVED THE PROBLEM" but "PROBLEM WAS SOLVED by" and i pointed also to the specific SKIPPING CHAPTERS one.
You have the ownership of the post but was unclear what it was useful for, i don't want to take any kind of credits, i just only want DVD-RB to be fully functional.
Your post really helped me to create a perfect backup, glad this let jdobbs discover the problem inside navpacks.
So ... peace,i owe you a beer ;-)
Ciao.

[gvittoz]

Originally posted by RB
Finding Nemo R2/PAL has multiple angles. As jdobbs stated multiple times, this is not yet supported.

This is the same error
but I've got just one angle also why ???

[petesafool]

Don't know if it will help anyone but...

Early on when using v0.15 i was getting a lot of hangs and errors from CCE & DVD-RB (as well as those damn multiple .ecl windows :). Anyway I noticed my Norton Antivirus 2004 (SystemWorks installation) was waiting for a scan of my DVD files. Turning it off before running DVD-RB got rid of the problem.

I mention it because because Norton also seems to screw up other things on my system unless it's turned off:

* VOB InstantDisc v6.5, it crashes and restarts the PC every time I burn a DVD - although the DVD is burned properly so it's not too bad.
* Sometimes takes explorer multiple attempts at copying and pasting data files from a CD/DVD while Norton 'requests' scans.

@hypo20
Could I have a little clarification on 'Everything other you should leave as it is' in the IFOedit fix please. That means leave 'strip streams checked'? As my DVD-RB'd Pirates of the Caribean still lists the multiple audios and IFOedit unchecks them. Am I just running this to correct the IFO/BUPs?

[gvittoz]

Thank you for the answer
I tried but it's not that
I'm just sorry I don't speak english very well

[Pedro Gouveia]

Jdobbs! Hi again. After analysing a VOB created by RB and the same VOB corrected by ifo edit, there seem to be an error on some of the navigation packs.
The "offset to audio packet for audio stream X" is pointing to the "right AC3-Audio Pack"+1.

In my case the first wrong Nav Pack was the second one in the VOB

Hope this helps

[brikin]

I know everyone is getting the 9 error but has anyone got the 5 error?

DVD Rebuilder v0.23
QuEnc 0.43

Problem:
When I press Rebuild I get a "Run Time error '5' Invalid procedure call or argument error" that closes the program down.

I see the progress bar go up for VTS_01_00.VOB to 100% then it flips to VTS_03_01.VOB really quick and throws this error. This all happens within 3 seconds of pushing the button. In the status window I see

Copying IFO, BUP, and menu files...
Processing VTS_01
Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1

Let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks for the tool

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
If you read my original post carefully ...
I have NOT TOLD "I SOLVED THE PROBLEM" but "PROBLEM WAS SOLVED by" and i pointed also to the specific SKIPPING CHAPTERS one.
You have the ownership of the post but was unclear what it was useful for, i don't want to take any kind of credits, i just only want DVD-RB to be fully functional.
Your post really helped me to create a perfect backup, glad this let jdobbs discover the problem inside navpacks.
So ... peace,i owe you a beer ;-)
Ciao. If you're handing out beers... :cool:

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
Jdobbs! Hi again. After analysing a VOB created by RB and the same VOB corrected by ifo edit, there seem to be an error on some of the navigation packs.
The "offset to audio packet for audio stream X" is pointing to the "right AC3-Audio Pack"+1.

In my case the first wrong Nav Pack was the second one in the VOB

Hope this helps Good feedback. I just changed the algorithm for that in version .22 -- is your check against version .22 or .23?

[redfive19]

My only bug so far with the app is the interlaced problem we've discussed in the other monster thread. Seems like whenever I encode a DVD, I get a jagged picture (but not as bad as if I had an interlaced still). People's arms look like they are almost shadowed or have trails. This happened when encoding two interlaced DVD's. The source is TFF and the final product is as well. I did not experience such a problem with a progressive frame DVD.

RB .021 (trying .23 now)
CCE 2.67.00.23 (trying 2.50 now)

Otherwise, this app is tremendous. I'd be willing to pay another $30 for it once it's final (I already donated $10!). This is exactly what I've been waiting for! It worked on my Total Training For Adobe After Effects 6 DVD that the BIG3 couldn't get right and that looks like crap when I run it out of DVDShrink (it's nearly 7.5 gigs). Once this interlacing issue gets worked out, I am going to backup all of my Total Training DVD's since they were super expensive and a big investment.

thank you jdobbs, you're a DVD GOD!
-redfive

p.s. - I don't know if it's legal or not, but I will send you (through snail mail) the dvd I backed up so you can see the issues I've run into. It's sort of hard to explain here and I can't take a screenshot of it since the problem only exists on a TV.

[acido]

Originally posted by jdobbs
If you're handing out beers... :cool:

No beer can thankyou enough!
:D

[hypo20]

Originally posted by acido
If you read my original post carefully ...
I have NOT TOLD "I SOLVED THE PROBLEM" but "PROBLEM WAS SOLVED by" and i pointed also to the specific SKIPPING CHAPTERS one.
You have the ownership of the post but was unclear what it was useful for, i don't want to take any kind of credits, i just only want DVD-RB to be fully functional.
Your post really helped me to create a perfect backup, glad this let jdobbs discover the problem inside navpacks.
So ... peace,i owe you a beer ;-)
Ciao.

PEACE. :) We all want this baby done. :) You's don't owe me nothing. Sorry. :)

[hypo20]

Originally posted by petesafool
@hypo20
Could I have a little clarification on 'Everything other you should leave as it is' in the IFOedit fix please. That means leave 'strip streams checked'? As my DVD-RB'd Pirates of the Caribean still lists the multiple audios and IFOedit unchecks them. Am I just running this to correct the IFO/BUPs?

Sorry, my mistake. In thet section, where REBUILD NAV-PACKS and so on...leave everything unchecked except these two things I wrote. On the right side of the screen, it's up to you if you want to remove USER PRHIBITED OPERATIONS and so on, so this is up to you. :)

Hope it helps.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by hypo20
Sorry, my mistake. In thet section, where REBUILD NAV-PACKS and so on...leave everything unchecked except these two things I wrote. On the right side of the screen, it's up to you if you want to remove USER PRHIBITED OPERATIONS and so on, so this is up to you. :)

Hope it helps. This will be fixed tonight and you won't have to do it anymore...

[gvittoz]

anyone know something for my problem ???

[broken_bricks]

Is there anything I can do to fix this or stop this from happening?

Thanks.

Originally posted by jdobbs
As I recall this means there is an error in which the IFO is referencing a VOBID/CELLID that does not exist.

[Oldeman]

Is the final DVD size target determined before you deselect audio streams?

It seems to me, that whenever I drop an audio stream via unchecking it on the DVD-RB menu, the DVD is undersized by the amount of the audio streams....

Anyway, thanks for this great proggie.. It just keeps getting better. With ReJig it's extremely easy to use.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by broken_bricks
Is there anything I can do to fix this or stop this from happening?

Thanks. Are you doing any preprocessing of the files. The only way I can imagine this happening is if you've removed one or more cells from the .VOB and the .IFO wasn't properly updated. There are lots of utilities that could cause this...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Oldeman
Is the final DVD size target determined before you deselect audio streams?

It seems to me, that whenever I drop an audio stream via unchecking it on the DVD-RB menu, the DVD is undersized by the amount of the audio streams....

Anyway, thanks for this great proggie.. It just keeps getting better. With ReJig it's extremely easy to use. No. The reduced audio is included in the calculation (the space is reallocated to the video portion). Please note, though, that the output is calculated to fall 160MB short to make room for possible sizing (bitrate) inaccuracies.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by jdobbs
This will be fixed tonight and you won't have to do it anymore...

Sweeeeeet. You're damn fast. :D

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by jdobbs
No. The reduced audio is included in the calculation (the space is reallocated to the video portion). Please note, though, that the output is calculated to fall 160MB short to make room for possible sizing (bitrate) inaccuracies.

Hmm.. something is defintely broken with size prediction in the latest version. Redid Lost In Translation, left in all audio tracks (including DTS) BUT I removed the French audio track and the DVD is undersized now by 400ish meg. This has never happened until version 23.

[DMagic1]

That temporary fix from IFOEdit that everyone has been talking about. Does that fix something in the ifo files alone, or does it fix something in the vobs as well?

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by DMagic1
That temporary fix from IFOEdit that everyone has been talking about. Does that fix something in the ifo files alone, or does it fix something in the vobs as well?

I thinks it fixes both ifo and vobs :).
Bye

[hifreak]

Hello this is a great program. I have tried it with the cinema encoder v. 2.67, but it does not work only with the 2.50 version it works. Have anyone experienced problems with the new encoder version too ? sorry for my english
:)

[hypo20]

Originally posted by hifreak
Hello this is a great program. I have tried it with the cinema encoder v. 2.67, but it does not work only with the 2.50 version it works. Have anyone experienced problems with the new encoder version too ? sorry for my english
:)

What problems??? It's important. I have no problems with 2.67.0.23 from version 0.16.

[oCe]

Well, did Basic all over again, with version 0.23 this time. Plays fine on the Philips as usual and YES audio on the Pioneer! It plays the first title (movie-company logo, movie) and YES the second title (still image, age-rating) and even the third title (copyright warnings, movie) but then it stops, on the Pioneer. Player says 'stop' again and well, that's it. On the Philips it plays, the fourth title is an interlaced mpeg, which always stuttered with previous versions. Though, it plays smooth now, is interlaced encoding/detecting inserted in someway as of 0.22 or 0.23, or am I going mental?

-edit-

Seems I'm going mental ;) No seriously, in previous versions the Underworld-trailer (4th title) got recoded, now it just got copied; size is exactly the same. (vts_04_1.vob in this case) That explains, it's an feature as of 0.22 I see:

- Implemented a size limit on VTSs to be processed. Now very small VTSs that
have virtually no data involved are simply copied as-is and are not processed.
This eliminates unnecessary recoding and some possible gotchas.

Any change this might be an option? So it could be turned of, makes the interlaced testing (since mostly only trailers and extra's are interlaced, in PAL-area's where I live) a lot easier.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by oCe
Well, did Basic all over again, with version 0.23 this time. Plays fine on the Philips as usual and YES audio on the Pioneer! It plays the first title (movie-company logo, movie) and YES the second title (still image, age-rating) and even the third title (copyright warnings, movie) but then it stops, on the Pioneer. Player says 'stop' again and well, that's it. On the Philips it plays, the fourth title is an interlaced mpeg, which always stuttered with previous versions. Though, it plays smooth now, is interlaced encoding/detecting inserted in someway as of 0.22 or 0.23, or am I going mental?

-edit-

Seems I'm going mental ;) No seriously, in previous versions the Underworld-trailer (4th title) got recoded, now it just got copied; size is exactly the same. (vts_04_1.vob in this case) That explains :)

This is some king of FIGHT CLUB. :D Fighting with stills. :o)

[robot1]

Originally posted by jdobbs
This will be fixed tonight and you won't have to do it anymore...
Sorry if OT
I had to do the manual step with ifoedit also after using ifoupdate.
Is there anything to fix also in that program, and will it be fixed?
Anyway, thanks for these two great progs.

[JvD]

Yes, this has been discussed back and forth with different suggestion, BUT my qustion is, WHAT IS RUNTIME ERROR 9? Why does it occur? Do anybody REALLY know this OR do we only have theories? I tried my third title withou any luck (non-stripped). Done all those suggestion you can find in the thread? Did I miss something OR is this question still unanswered? SO? Is it the title or the setup (software) or something else? Or is it just ME? :-)

PS. Is there any way to not having to run a complete movie to try the process out? If I remove things in rebuild.ecl you get other problems. Do I have to edit the .d2v-file also? And the...??? Would be nice to have a way to try this software out without waiting 3 hours. DS.

[hifreak]

Originally posted by hypo20
What problems??? It's important. I have no problems with 2.67.0.23 from version 0.16. The screen does not pop up in the encoder, it does not start to encode only with the 2.50 version are running it right now and there are no problems. Is it beacuse i use a trial version of the 2.67 or can you help me :confused:

[hypo20]

Originally posted by hifreak
The screen does not pop up in the encoder, it does not start to encode only with the 2.50 version are running it right now and there are no problems. Is it beacuse i use a trial version of the 2.67 or can you help me :confused:

Do you have right settings???

[hypo20]

Originally posted by JvD
Yes, this has been discussed back and forth with different suggestion, BUT my qustion is, WHAT IS RUNTIME ERROR 9? Why does it occur? Do anybody REALLY know this OR do we only have theories? I tried my third title withou any luck (non-stripped). Done all those suggestion you can find in the thread? Did I miss something OR is this question still unanswered? SO? Is it the title or the setup (software) or something else? Or is it just ME? :-)

PS. Is there any way to not having to run a complete movie to try the process out? If I remove things in rebuild.ecl you get other problems. Do I have to edit the .d2v-file also? And the...??? Would be nice to have a way to try this software out without waiting 3 hours. DS.


Just keep the D2AVS folder in work directory, switch DVD-RB to 3-step mode and do 3rd step with the same settings as the work dir was created. I don't need to be reencoded again. :o)

[JvD]

OK, thanks! An answer to the EASY question ;-) That solution I do know, I dont know really what I was thinking on. I thougt like it would be nice to try new versions out with the one-click-way to see if it all works fine, a complete set of files with menu and stuf but at tiny movie on say 5 min. and the possibility to complress it, say 70%. Just to try the app out. But OK, ill keep me next recoded files to try new versions out. Thanks for the reminder.

STILL! My Big question stands unanswered. ORR?

[hypo20]

Originally posted by JvD
OK, thanks! An answer to the EASY question ;-) That solution I do know, I dont know really what I was thinking on. I thougt like it would be nice to try new versions out with the one-click-way to see if it all works fine, a complete set of files with menu and stuf but at tiny movie on say 5 min. and the possibility to complress it, say 70%. Just to try the app out. But OK, ill keep me next recoded files to try new versions out. Thanks for the reminder.

STILL! My Big question stands unanswered. ORR?

STILL is still not solved. I think, it will be soon. JDOBBS is great and he's doing GRRRRRRREAT steps forward.

[JvD]

Originally posted by hypo20
JDOBBS is great and he's doing GRRRRRRREAT steps forward.
Yeas, I DO fancy JDOBBS work alot AND I do think he will solve the problem. BUT my qustion was: DO WE REALLY KNOW ITS A QUESTION OF STILLS? Since I tried some different movies I thought I tested movies without stills without success. But then again, maybe I didnt look enough for those stills.

[hifreak]

Originally posted by hypo20
Do you have right settings??? I don´t know any more I have tried it all with the 2.67 maybe you can tell me your settings or even better send som screens to me as I can compare the settings or a step for step here. I have tried all the things in the "Read me" and more

[redfive19]

@jdobbs

Do you think checking the box "ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)" would help out my interlacing problem? I am using AviSynth 2.54 so I believe that command would work (at least from what I read in the CCE FAQ). CCE 2.50 Crashed too much on my machine. I am going back to using 2.67.00.23 and will try this command.

-redfive

[Pedro Gouveia]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Good feedback. I just changed the algorithm for that in version .22 -- is your check against version .22 or .23?

I encoded with .22 and rebuilded with .23

BTW. In the navigation packs, RB changes the Prohibited U-OP from the original.
The original was 00 00 00 00 00. After rebuild 01 c0 40 10.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by hifreak
I don´t know any more I have tried it all with the 2.67 maybe you can tell me your settings or even better send som screens to me as I can compare the settings or a step for step here. I have tried all the things in the "Read me" and more

PM me your mail address. I'll send you the INI for for rebuilder I am using. Ok???

[Pedro Gouveia]

First navigation pack have wrong values
VOBU end address - relative -> negative values
VOBU first reference frame end block -> negative values
VOBU second reference frame end block -> negative values
VOBU third reference frame end block -> negative values

Last navigation pack have wrong values
VOBU end address - relative
VOBU first reference frame end block
VOBU second reference frame end block

These fields have values that points beyond VOB size, and this seems to be the errors detected by DVD shrink after Rebuild
"Overlapped I/O operation is in progress"

Manually changing this, DVD shrink detects no errors.

[hypo20]

Ok.

Here's my configuration for DVD-RB 0.23 and CCE SP 2.66 and higher.
eclCCE and DVD-RB 0.23 also included. Just put CCE and files in archive to the same dir and run. :)

@jdobbs
If you have something against distributing on my server, please let me know, and I will remove it.

http://www.columnium.com/hypo/dvdrb/dvdrbini.zip

[hypo20]

Ok. update config. Please download again, if you want from the same link.

[hypo20]

And again......

[hifreak]

Originally posted by hypo20
And again...... I sent you a mail :)

[hypo20]

Originally posted by hifreak
I sent you a mail :)

And I replied. :)

[bigskank]

Originally posted by hifreak
The screen does not pop up in the encoder, it does not start to encode only with the 2.50 version are running it right now and there are no problems. Is it beacuse i use a trial version of the 2.67 or can you help me :confused:

@hifreak

Make sure that your ECL-CCE's ini file is pointed to the correct version of CCE you want to use. I have both 2.50 and 2.66 on my system, and have to change the ini file for CCE whenever I want to use one or the other. To change the ECL-CCE ini file settings, open ECL-CCE.exe and point it to the CCE executable that you want to use.

Then, after you have changed the INI file for ECL-CCE, open rebuilder, select the version of CCE you are using under "Options -> CCE Options" (in this case 2.67), and then go to Options -> Settings and point your path for the "CCE SP (new)" to your ECL.exe file. I was having this very same problem with my trial version of 2.66 (the encoder wouldn't pop up). It's because none of the trial versions of CCE support command line processing, which is why you have to use ECL-CCE.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by JvD
Yes, this has been discussed back and forth with different suggestion, BUT my qustion is, WHAT IS RUNTIME ERROR 9? Why does it occur? Do anybody REALLY know this OR do we only have theories? I tried my third title withou any luck (non-stripped). Done all those suggestion you can find in the thread? Did I miss something OR is this question still unanswered? SO? Is it the title or the setup (software) or something else? Or is it just ME? :-)

PS. Is there any way to not having to run a complete movie to try the process out? If I remove things in rebuild.ecl you get other problems. Do I have to edit the .d2v-file also? And the...??? Would be nice to have a way to try this software out without waiting 3 hours. DS. I can tell you exactly what causes it. It's when there is a very long stream of non-video packets and I get a buffer overrun. It's usually caused by a still frame. I'll fix it soon.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
First navigation pack have wrong values
VOBU end address - relative -> negative values
VOBU first reference frame end block -> negative values
VOBU second reference frame end block -> negative values
VOBU third reference frame end block -> negative values

Last navigation pack have wrong values
VOBU end address - relative
VOBU first reference frame end block
VOBU second reference frame end block

These fields have values that points beyond VOB size, and this seems to be the errors detected by DVD shrink after Rebuild
"Overlapped I/O operation is in progress"


Manually changing this, DVD shrink detects no errors. This is a part of the fix I'm doing right now. I had a major error in the way I was calculating reference frame end blocks. This was the root of the pixelation and FF errors at chapter points that were mentioned earlier. I have the fix in, but right now I'm testing it by comparing my original output to that created by IFOEdit after fixing...

[petesafool]

@hypo20
Thanx for the reply - i pretty much guessed that was it. however...

Still get mixed results on Pirates of the Caribbean D1. Using v0.23 plays perfectly on the cheapo Venturer, even plays the Disney title without skipping on my Yamaha but then the Bruce Almighty still kicks in; pauses, ignores the rest of the trailer, more pauses, then into the menu ok. However it then misses the credits and the 1st 3 or four minutes of the film (where they pick up the young Turner adrift at sea). Can't get that portion of the film using chapter selection either, nor by rewinding.

So I would say that whatever the problem is it's down to how individual players handle (or don't as the case may be) the DVD specs.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
I encoded with .22 and rebuilded with .23

BTW. In the navigation packs, RB changes the Prohibited U-OP from the original.
The original was 00 00 00 00 00. After rebuild 01 c0 40 10. Are you sure? I've never changed the U-OP (although that would be on the way-out wish list). It isn't often that an original has no restrictions at all. Was it preprocessed through something else?

[hypo20]

Originally posted by petesafool
@hypo20
Thanx for the reply - i pretty much guessed that was it. however...

Still get mixed results on Pirates of the Caribbean D1. Using v0.23 plays perfectly on the cheapo Venturer, even plays the Disney title without skipping on my Yamaha but then the Bruce Almighty still kicks in; pauses, ignores the rest of the trailer, more pauses, then into the menu ok. However it then misses the credits and the 1st 3 or four minutes of the film (where they pick up the young Turner adrift at sea). Can't that portion of the film using chapter selection either, nor by rewinding.

So I would say that whatever the problem is it's down to how individual players handle (or don't as the case may be) the DVD specs.

I was doing Bruce Almighty too. This probles are caused by stills. :)

[Pedro Gouveia]

Originally posted by jdobbs
This is a part of the fix I'm doing right now. I had a major error in the way I was calculating reference frame end blocks. This was the root of the pixelation and FF errors at chapter points that were mentioned earlier. I have the fix in, but right now I'm testing it by comparing my original output to that created by IFOEdit after fixing...

Thats good news
I can´t wait 4 the new build :)

[Pedro Gouveia]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Are you sure? I've never changed the U-OP (although that would be on the way-out wish list). It isn't often that an original has no restrictions at all. Was it preprocessed through something else?
Yes, it was preprocessed by DVDstripper, but in the processed VOBS the Prohibited U-OP are all 00 00 00 00 as the original (LOTR_TT_SEE Disk4).

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
Yes, it was preprocessed by DVDstripper, but in the processed VOBS the Prohibited U-OP are all 00 00 00 00. Hey, you're good... I stand corrected. This was one of those "I'll get to it later" things. I've been setting that value to 01 C0 40 10. I guess it would make more sense to set it to no restrictions since I'm putting a constant value in anyway.

[Pedro Gouveia]

u r right. better of with zeros :)

[KungFuCow]

JDobbs, I just sent you another donation.

Thanks for all your hard work. To everyone that hasn't donated, what are you waiting for?

[Pedro Gouveia]

there were also a diference of 1 lba between the ifoedit corrected vob and the RB created VOB in
"offset to audio packet for audiostreamXX"
only on some navigation packs

[lighty]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
To everyone that hasn't donated, what are you waiting for?

As a matter of fact I am waiting for stupid PayPal to start accepting payments from my country. Not all of us are from US or EU... :sly:

[hypo20]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
there were also a diference of 1 lba between the ifoedit corrected vob and the RB created VOB in
"offset to audio packet for audiostreamXX"
only on some navigation packs

You're machine specially designed for IFO's comparing or what???

:D Great work from you too.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by lighty
As a matter of fact I am waiting for stupid PayPal to start accepting payments from my country. Not all of us are from US or EU... :sly:

That's right. JDOBBS must wait until 1st of May this year for my donation. :) We'll be in EU from that day. :)

[lighty]

Originally posted by hypo20
JDOBBS must wait until 1st of May this year for my donation. :) We'll be in EU from that day. :)

Not my country though... I am afraid jdobbs will have to wait several years for my donation. :rolleyes:

[Pedro Gouveia]

There are several ways to donate... :)

[hypo20]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
There are several ways to donate... :)

How?

[Pedro Gouveia]

I think that could be arranged other alternatives to paypal for people that can't donate by paypal (just a guess)

[hypo20]

Ok. My time is 2:30am so I'm moving to bed.

With notebook and internet of course. :D

I'm still here. :)

[djan]

There is money order, postal way, Western Union, Banking transfer, ... jdobbs has to choose the way he preferes.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by djan
There is money order, postal way, Western Union, Banking transfer, ...

Just PM me bank account. :)

[hifreak]

I would like to say thanks to all who helped me a newbie:) Especially thanks to Hypo20 who really helped me to get the program work, jubiiiii now I can go to sleep ;) Thank you all..

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
JDobbs, I just sent you another donation.

Thanks for all your hard work. To everyone that hasn't donated, what are you waiting for? Thank you very much.

[jdobbs]

All,

Just so you know, I've made the fixes to the NAVPACKS and it works -- no difference when compared to the IFOEDIT fixed file. Good. But after some comments from some testers asking about audio sizing, I've also noticed that the resizing of the files has changed. Instead of 4.3GB output I'm getting 3.98GB... it started in either v0.22 or v0.23 and appears to be related to the size limit on VTSs to be processed that I added to v0.22. I'm trying to find it before posting. If not, I will post as-is and fix it in the next version.

[theuser86]

@jdobbs

1. DVD-RB Version: DVD-RB v0.23
2. Encoder being used: CCE SP 2.67.00.23 (trial)
3. Using eclCCE? Y - eclCCE v1.7b
4. Bugs encountered:

1st (minor) bug: When viewing on standalone (Toshiba SD-3800), skipping chapters does not seem to work properly, attempting to go from chapter 1 to 2 actually has dvd going from 1 to 3. I can go backwards in chapters from 3 to 2, but in attempting to go from 1 to 2, the dvd actually goes to chapter 3. DVD being used: Out of Time SE (NTSC R1).

2nd bug encoutered: The DVD I am compressing is Out of Time Special Edition. The DVD is interlaced (checked with DVD2AVIdg), thus I used the "ConvertToYUV2(interlaced=true)" option in the AVS section of the Options menu. (And yes, ForceFilm is not enabled) However when playing in PowerDVD the horizontal interlaced lines appear. When applying the deinterlace filter that comes with PowerDVD the video looks okay but kind of jumpy. When playing the burned DVD in my standalone the video is VERY jumpy.

I am wondering what is the exact problem of this? The original is interlaced and plans fine in PowerDVD and my standalone.

I am sure it has something to do with the avs/cce settings and the fact that the orig video is interlaced.

Other than that, Thank You for a great program, its a real time-saver than having to do everything manually when using CCE.

[VampHuntD]

Hey JDobbs

I'm using version .23 of DVD-RB and I keep getting Error number 52.

It says Runtime Error 52
Bad filename or number

This happens when I click on prepare or in 1 click mode. Any ideas?

[Pedro Gouveia]

I only have interlaced material and i don't have any of these interlaced problems.

[theuser86]

@Pedro

What settings do you use with DVD-RB and your interlaced material? DVD-RB version, CCE version, eclCCE version, Options in DVD-RB, etc.

Just a question: You are 100% sure that the material you are dealing with is truly interlaced right? Some ppl mistake all DVDs they see the horizontal lines in as truly interlaced which is not true. Many NTSC DVDs appear to be interlaced but if ForceFilm is enabled then the progressive frames can be recovered.

Thanks.

[Pedro Gouveia]

I live in Europe and almost every DVD's in Europe (except some Music DVD's) are interlaced. (Correct me if i'm wrong)
Same versions of yours.

[Paced]

Originally posted by theuser86
@Pedro

What settings do you use with DVD-RB and your interlaced material? DVD-RB version, CCE version, eclCCE version, Options in DVD-RB, etc.

Just a question: You are 100% sure that the material you are dealing with is truly interlaced right? Some ppl mistake all DVDs they see the horizontal lines in as truly interlaced which is not true. Many NTSC DVDs appear to be interlaced but if ForceFilm is enabled then the progressive frames can be recovered.

Thanks.

You're most likely encoding with the wrong field order, in order to fix this, turn off DVD-RB's one click mode, and after you finish the "Prepare" stage, open the ECL file it creates with notepad. Look for one of these lines: "offset_line=" or "top_first=" (it will be one of them, I can't remember what v2.67 uses), change the value to the opposite of what it is now, and save the file. Then, go back to DVD-RB, and continue with encoding/rebuilding.

[jdobbs]

I've posted tonight's update to DVD-RB (v0.24) the changes are listed below:

- Corrected a major problem that caused pixelation when switching between chapters and when FF/REW went over chapter boundaries.

- Corrected a sizing inconsistency that was always present but was revealed in by the implementation of VTS processing size limits (in v0.22).

- User restrictions (in the VOB files) are now set to 0x00000000 (no prohibited operations). Please note that U-OPs are not being modified in the IFO files.

- Fixed two variable initialization errors that were the root of several small NAVPACK video reference errors (associated with NAVPACK headers). These could only be seen when performing more than one Rebuild in a session.

- Added ability to adjust target DVD size. I've purposely not made this easily available so I don't get complaints of 4 hour recodes that don't fit. To use, just add TargetSectors=nnnn under the [Options] section of the REBUILDER.INI file. As a reference the default for DVD-RB is 2236400 and the maximum for a DVD-5 is 2297888. But remember there always should be a little room left for margin of error.

Download it from the first post on this thread.

[Pedro Gouveia]

Hi jdobbs. Last bug report today. The eclpasses are not working.
I deleted the rebuider.ini and the passes are always 2

here is my new rebuilder.ini

[Options]
CCE=1
BackColor=-2147483633
RemoveDTS=1
ConvertToYUY2=0
ResampleAudio=0
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=20
eclPasses=4
[Setup]
FilmThreshold=285
Language11111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111101111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
[Paths]
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\EclCCE.exe
Source=F:\TEMP\DVD STRIPER\VIDEO_TS\
Working=F:\TEMP\NEW FOLDER\

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
Hi jdobbs. Last bug report today. The eclpasses are not working.
I deleted the rebuider.ini and the passes are always 2

here is my new rebuilder.ini

[Options]
CCE=1
BackColor=-2147483633
RemoveDTS=1
ConvertToYUY2=0
ResampleAudio=0
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=25
Quality_prec=20
eclPasses=4
[Setup]
FilmThreshold=285
Language111111...
[Paths]
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\EclCCE.exe
Source=F:\TEMP\DVD STRIPER\VIDEO_TS\
Working=F:\TEMP\NEW FOLDER\ I just tested it on mine and it works correctly. If you look in the resulting .ECL file you should see a parameter that says vbr_pass=n -- n will equal the number you entered minus 1 (vaf pass plus n more). Looking at the file .INI you sent above the value should be vbr_pass=3.

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I've posted tonight's update to DVD-RB (v0.24) the changes are listed below: Do we need to re-encode to fix the chapter problems? I just did a rebuild with 0.24 and chapter problems are still there.

[redfive19]

@theuser86
I have had very similiar problems. So far, nothing has worked. If you find something out, please PM me as I have no clue where to go from here.

-redfive

[robw]

Hi JDobbs

testing 0.24 tonight. I am setting up the batch mode by first saving individual project files. I save individual projects with only one of several possible English audio tracks checked. If I reload the project, all the English language audio tracks are still checked. Apparently the project file is not saving the updated audio tracks that I want and is simply defaulting back to the option to use all English laguage audio tracks.

[DMagic1]

:(

The pixelation at the start of each chapter is still there. I did the full process and still get that.

[Paced]

Originally posted by redfive19
@theuser86
I have had very similiar problems. So far, nothing has worked. If you find something out, please PM me as I have no clue where to go from here.

-redfive

When I suggested you to change the "offset_line=" / "top_first=" lines (in the ECL), you did change them for every single AVS file right (or at least for the main movie VTS set)?

[VampHuntD]

Hey Jdobbs,
Just tried .24 and still getting the same runtime error
It says the following
Runtime Error 52
Bad Filename or number

This error occurs when I click on transcode in 1 click mode or on Prepare in normal mode.

[sidders]

Hi JDObbs - I am also getting the error in UpdateIfo - shouldn't happen error on rebuild.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
I live in Europe and almost every DVD's in Europe (except some Music DVD's) are interlaced. (Correct me if i'm wrong)
Same versions of yours.

I think no.
I guess, that in europe, there are progressive video frames.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by hypo20
Ok.

Here's my configuration for DVD-RB 0.23 and CCE SP 2.66 and higher.
eclCCE and DVD-RB 0.23 also included. Just put CCE and files in archive to the same dir and run. :)

@jdobbs
If you have something against distributing on my server, please let me know, and I will remove it.

http://www.columnium.com/hypo/dvdrb/dvdrbini.zip

Updated to 0.24. Config is tested with this. ;)

[wakebrder]

Hey jdobbs. Congrats on what looks to be the holy grail of DVD backup!!

Everything seems to play perfectly using .24 except the stuttering/pixelization between chapters. I'm sure it's the same
problem DMagic1 is experiencing.

Movie is Blade 2, region 1, NTSC.

DVD-RB .24
EclCCE
CCE 2.5
Panasonic RP82 standalone

I think you're on the brink of having this thing perfected. Keep up the good work. It is greatly appreciated.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by wakebrder
Hey jdobbs. Congrats on what looks to be the holy grail of DVD backup!!

Everything seems to play perfectly using .24 except the stuttering/pixelization between chapters. I'm sure it's the same
problem DMagic1 is experiencing.

Movie is Blade 2, region 1, NTSC.

DVD-RB .24
EclCCE
CCE 2.5
Panasonic RP82 standalone

I think you're on the brink of having this thing perfected. Keep up the good work. It is greatly appreciated. Hmm... I thought the stuttering/pixelation went away after running it through IFOEdit??? I thought I had that problem nailed... I'll have to look at it again tonight.

[KungFuCow]

The sizing issues don't seem to be worked out. I just redid Lost In Translation and it came out to 3.5GB. This appears to have creeped in in the last couple of versions or so.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
Do we need to re-encode to fix the chapter problems? I just did a rebuild with 0.24 and chapter problems are still there. No. You shouldn't have to recode. The problem (I thought) was in the rebuild. Had you tried fixing the problem previously by running it through IFOEdit? I was under the impression from previous posts that they went away when the pointers were fixed.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
The sizing issues don't seem to be worked out. I just redid Lost In Translation and it came out to 3.5GB. This appears to have creeped in in the last couple of versions or so. Needless to say -- I'm a little disappointed with at least two of the fixes that went in last night. I had high hopes. Oh well, that was about 6 hours down the tube... This error was related to my attempt to "remove" VTSs from the processing queue (v0.22) that were too small to make a difference. Somehow, it seems, that screwed up my size calculation.

[KungFuCow]

Im sorry to be the bearer of bad news :( :( :(

I personally think this started on the version where you changed the audio pointer stuff but I could be wrong.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Im sorry to be the bearer of bad news :( :( :(

I personally think this started on the version where you changed the audio pointer stuff but I could be wrong. I'm sorry to be tthe originator of bad news. I'll check it out tonight.

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
This is a part of the fix I'm doing right now. I had a major error in the way I was calculating reference frame end blocks. This was the root of the pixelation and FF errors at chapter points that were mentioned earlier. I have the fix in, but right now I'm testing it by comparing my original output to that created by IFOEdit after fixing...
Uhm, I wouldn't trust IFOEdit output too much... At least for me, every VOB sequence I have run through IFOEdit then had seeking problems in software players. FF/RW works fine, but dragging the timeline slider always kicks back to the menu, i.e. doesn't work.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Uhm, I wouldn't trust IFOEdit output too much... At least for me, every VOB sequence I have run through IFOEdit then had seeking problems in software players. FF/RW works fine, but dragging the timeline slider always kicks back to the menu, i.e. doesn't work. Yeah. That would be the TMAPTI table -- I'm confident that I have that one down (along with the rest of the IFO). But when I read the comments yesterday I saw several who said that correcting their VOBs through IFOEdit made all pixelation and chapter problems go away. It then led me to a problem I had with computing reference-end-blocks and a couple of other NAVPACK issues. Those are fixed now, and my test last night showed no difference between my output and one corrected by IFOEdit... so now I'm at a loss. My problem is that these play fine on my 3 players and on my computer (but so did the previous sets) -- so I can't really test them.

[acido]

Now that DVD-RB 0.24 is out,
this evening i will try again and confirm if you fixed the CHAPTERS SKIPPING problem (at least from the movie i have ripped on my hd) .

[Raymongo]

As soon as i hit the process button this message appears. I did not do any stripping i just used dvd decrypter thats all. I did try more versions (older) but the same problem appears there also. It is a dutch movie witch is PAL and is also interlaced.

De Schippers van de Kameleon / Version 0.16 - 0.22 - 0.23 - 0.24
CCE 2.67.0.23
eclcce Yes
Error appears as soon as the prepare button is hit!

http://home.12move.nl/~sh918005/Run-time_error_9.jpg

[JvD]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I can tell you exactly what causes it. It's when there is a very long stream of non-video packets and I get a buffer overrun. It's usually caused by a still frame. I'll fix it soon.

Raymongo, her is the answer. Some moves have this problem, even wneh not stripped. 2 bad. We will have a fix for that "soon" (jdobbs).

PS. Thanks jdobbs for you aswer to my previos question. DS.

[gvittoz]

now it is ok for the first error but
I've got the problem "error 380"
anyone know what's suppose

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
No. You shouldn't have to recode. The problem (I thought) was in the rebuild. Had you tried fixing the problem previously by running it through IFOEdit? I was under the impression from previous posts that they went away when the pointers were fixed.
The problems do go away (for the most part) when doing in ifoedit:
- Correct Vob-Unit (Navigation Pack) pointers in VOB-files
- Correct original IFO files

However as RB said, I wouldn't put 100% faith in the ifoedit output in this case. I saw a residual weirdness after doing this procedure. When RW past a particular chapter point, it jumped to chapter+2. This only happened on one chapter. Otherwise it looked okay. Pixelation and jumpiness at chapter points was fixed.

I also confirmed pixelation and jumpiness remains after full recode-rebuild with 0.24.

[redfive19]

@jdobbs,

dude, please help me with this interlacing problem. I tried again last night with the ConverttoYUY2(interlaced=true) in the AVS's and it's still not working. I think it might be something within the authoring process because when I author just the M2V's with Adobe Encore, I do not see this interlacing problem. I am very very lost.

[trebor]

I got the exakt same problem as Raymongo and have been since version 0.16 (on some dvdr's, not all)
Was just about to post a screenshot like his one :p

[quantum]

Originally posted by redfive19
dude, please help me with this interlacing problem. I tried again last night with the ConverttoYUY2(interlaced=true) in the AVS's and it's still not working. I think it might be something within the I'm sure he's read your half dozen (or more) posts about the same issue. If I was jdobbs, I would have categorized your tff/bff issue as low priority. He's got several problems that affect everyone and he's working on them diligently every day. This is beta software which means it's a work in progress. Since you're obviously desperate to copy your one disk, why don't you use one of the many released and stable programs available, DVDShrink and others.

[StifflerStealth]

@Redfive19
Actually, I was going to suggest doing some tests to find out whats wrong for jdobbs rather than using another program to back it up. This is what I'm suggesting, so correct me if I'm wrong. Use DoIfFast4U on demux by CellID, read the guides to get the other settings, but in the post processing settings do not have it launch another program. then once it finished demuxing by CellID, open the CCEdata.txt and figure out which cells are the first five cells of the main movei and then delete the rest out of that text file. Open DoCCE4U or BatchCCEWS, what ever you want, goto file-->Load list, and select your CCEdata.txt file. Then press the green play button. Once that's finished, compare those encoded cells with the five corrisponding cells from ReBuilder. If the ones from DoCCE/BatchCCE look better, then tell us and post the contents of the AVS files and D2V files.

You do not need to post all the lines in the d2v file that resemble this:
7 0 0 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 0 0 1
7 0 4E 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
7 0 FD 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1 2 3 0 1
.
.
.

Stiff

PS. That was brief, but if you need more help setting up the above mentioned progs, PM me.

[redfive19]

@quantum
I apologize if I came off wrong in the last post. I am just a bit flustered over this process. I've been trying all different combos and wasting DVD-R's (I know, I need to get some -RW's). I completely appreciate jdobbs' work. I was hoping that someone else here was also encoding an interlaced DVD and ran across the same problem.

@StifflerStealth

I will go through the Big3 process you described and see what's up. The only problem that stopped me from doing this before is I am not completely sure of the Scenarist part when Demuxing by VOBID of CELLID. But if all I have to provide is the D2V info, than I can do that. Thanks for all your help.

-redfive

[StifflerStealth]

I just saying that you should stop after the encoding part, and not use Scenarist. Also, you only need to encode five cells, so that should not take too long, you can still campare the video quality.

Stiff

[wakebrder]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Hmm... I thought the stuttering/pixelation went away after running it through IFOEdit??? I thought I had that problem nailed... I'll have to look at it again tonight.

The same movie (Blade2) was flawless after running through IFOEdit.

I thought you had this fixed in version .24.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

You're so damn close!!:D

[francois20001]

jdobbs,

First let me thank you for a great program.
Now i have a little problem. nothing like the others that will take lost of time to fix or anything. I have noticed that if you exit DVD-RB, the source path is not reset or deleted and when you start the program again it will crash if there is no DVD on the drive or the image is no longer mounted. I have been going into the ini file and removing the path manually but i was curious if it could be automated?

Thanks again for all the hard work

[CeanD]

EDIT:: Fixed

[DMagic1]

I can import the v0.24 output in to Shrink and run uncompressed without errors.

If I try to run the v0.24 output in CloneDVD with no compressions I get NavigationPack errors just like in versions before v0.24

v.023 output run thru IFOEdit to correct, then run thru CloneDVD wouldnt give the NavigationPack errors.

v.024 run thru Shrink to correct, then run thru CloneDVD doesnt give the NavigationPack errors.

I havent run v.024 thru IFOEdit yet.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by francois20001
jdobbs,

First let me thank you for a great program.
Now i have a little problem. nothing like the others that will take lost of time to fix or anything. I have noticed that if you exit DVD-RB, the source path is not reset or deleted and when you start the program again it will crash if there is no DVD on the drive or the image is no longer mounted. I have been going into the ini file and removing the path manually but i was curious if it could be automated?

Thanks again for all the hard work Hmmm... I always thought of it as a feature -- but when you are mounting ISO images it becomes a bug... I'll think of something.

[DMagic1]

Just comparing I notice that RB always has VOB sizes that aren't what you normally see.

RB VOBs
1,048,560 kb
1,048,562 kb
1,048,562 kb
1,048,562 kb
329,856 kb

Shrink corrected RB VOBs
1,048,574 kb
1,048,574 kb
1,048,574 kb
1,048,574 kb
329,806 kb

But both have the same cells in each vob.

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by DMagic1
I can import the v0.24 output in to Shrink and run uncompressed without errors.

If I try to run the v0.24 output in CloneDVD with no compressions I get NavigationPack errors just like in versions before v0.24

v.023 output run thru IFOEdit to correct, then run thru CloneDVD wouldnt give the NavigationPack errors.

v.024 run thru Shrink to correct, then run thru CloneDVD doesnt give the NavigationPack errors.

I havent run v.024 thru IFOEdit yet.

Does passing dvdrb output through dvdshirnk (uncompressed) solve chapter pixelation problem?

[CeanD]

Fixed

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by P3gasus
Does passing dvdrb output through dvdshirnk (uncompressed) solve chapter pixelation problem?

I'm burning now to see.

*Update*
Yes the pixelation problems are gone from the Shrink corrected output.

[insane822]

I tried searching through these threads for this topic before, so if it has been discussed can someone please point me there.

I Have D2V options set to force film.
But I don't see what the point of that is when DVD-RB doesn't have CCE encode with 3:2 pulldown, nor does it have it encode with zig-zag.

So the output i get from CCE is interlaced :/

[DMagic1]

@jdobbs

One good thing is that there are nearly as many differences between the Shrink corrected VOBs of v.024 and the IFOEdit corrected VOBs of v.023. Its seems like its almost there.

I still need to do the IFOEdit correction to v.024 and see how it compares to the IFOEdit corrections of v.023.

[CeanD]

I now get this:

http://www.ceand.com/images/dvdbrerror.jpg

I successfully got the menus done, but the main film was MIA at this point.

[robw]

JDobbs
just a recommendation for the batch option. Would be nice to have a save and load feature. That way, one can set up the batch file and save it. Later (at the end of the evening) just load and run while you go off to bed.

Just something for the list, certainly lower priority.

[quantum]

@jdobbs and others: This is a sample of the pixelation at chapter points. I took a picture of the TV set. I couldn't think of any other way to capture it. The large cubes are the pixels and the man is ghosted.

http://www.connforum.com/pixels.jpg

[RB]

Originally posted by insane822
I Have D2V options set to force film.
But I don't see what the point of that is when DVD-RB doesn't have CCE encode with 3:2 pulldown, nor does it have it encode with zig-zag.

So the output i get from CCE is interlaced :/
The 3:2 pulldown in CCE is inverse 3:2 pulldown, not needed here. Rebuilder applies pulldown itself during remuxing. Also your output isn't interlaced, it's just encoded with alternate scan and progressive frames off. I guess Rebuilder is just replicating the original stream encoding in CCE which is good.

[quantum]

Originally posted by DMagic1
*Update*Yes the pixelation problems are gone from the Shrink corrected output. [/B] Confirmed. I processed my test disk output from dvdrb through shrink. Since it was already under the size limit, everything was set to 100% size and it took under 3 minutes to process. Ifo's and vobs were different sizes so things were changed all around. The pixelation and stuttering at chapters points seems completely gone and everything appears as it should be. This looked a bit better than the ifoedit output.

I also noticed shrink removed the various p-uops and I can go directly to the menu. This couldn't have anything to do with it could it?

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by DMagic1
I'm burning now to see.

*Update*
Yes the pixelation problems are gone from the Shrink corrected output.

I just ran the v.024 output thru IFOEdit also just as we did with v.023.
It also corrected the problem just as Shrink does.

It seems that CloneDVD is a fair tool to test for this navigation/chapter pixelation problem since it is the only one of the one-clicks left that still reports a problem with the v.024 output. But it doesnt report a problem after Shrink or IFOEdit corrections.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DMagic1
I just ran the v.024 output thru IFOEdit also just as we did with v.023.
It also corrected the problem just as Shrink does.

It seems that CloneDVD is a fair tool to test for this navigation/chapter pixelation problem since it is the only one of the one-clicks left that still reports a problem with the v.024 output. But it doesnt report a problem after Shrink or IFOEdit corrections. Wow. I'm checking.

[redfive19]

@stiffler & @jdobbs

Here's a copy of the D2v files from DoItFast4U and from DVD RB

--------------------------------------------------------------

*DVD RB .D2V*

Stream_Type=1,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=29970

-------------------
*DoitFast4U .D2v*

Stream_Type=0,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=29970

----------------------------------------

Seems like everything is the same except for the stream type. I don't know what that means but there's a possibility that's my problem. Any ideas guys?

-redfive

[CeanD]

Didn;t realize I was using .22, upgraded to .24, same Runtime Error at the same point 3x in a row.

:shrug:

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by redfive19
@stiffler & @jdobbs

Here's a copy of the D2v files from DoItFast4U and from DVD RB

--------------------------------------------------------------

*DVD RB .D2V*

Stream_Type=1,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=29970

-------------------
*DoitFast4U .D2v*

Stream_Type=0,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=29970

----------------------------------------

Seems like everything is the same except for the stream type. I don't know what that means but there's a possibility that's my problem. Any ideas guys?

-redfive I don't think it matters look here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23788&highlight=streamtype)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by francois20001
jdobbs,

First let me thank you for a great program.
Now i have a little problem. nothing like the others that will take lost of time to fix or anything. I have noticed that if you exit DVD-RB, the source path is not reset or deleted and when you start the program again it will crash if there is no DVD on the drive or the image is no longer mounted. I have been going into the ini file and removing the path manually but i was curious if it could be automated?

Thanks again for all the hard work When opening DVD-RB loads the last accessed file and attempts to gather the audio information from the IFO files. That's when you get this error. I can not save it -- but I'm afraid I will immediately get inundated with people asking why I don't save the path...

[theuser86]

@paced

I tried your top_first=0 to top_first=1 thing and the same problem presists.

I changed that option for every single AVS. Prolbem is still there trying to encode the interlaced video.

[jdobbs]

All,

I'm actively working the runtime '9' and the pixelation/chapter errors. Expect to see an update on Friday.

Thanks.

[wakebrder]

You da man jdobbs....:sly:

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by jdobbs
All,

I'm actively working the runtime '9' and the pixelation/chapter errors. Expect to see an update on Friday.

Thanks.

Not trying to rush you but what about the resizing issues?

[Elnoyle]

Every time I press the "Prepare" button (DVD-RB 0.24) for any DVD I've tried, with any settings I've tried, I get an error that says:

"Run-time error '5':
Invalid Procedure call or argument"

I'm surprised this hasn't yet been addressed. :(

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Not trying to rush you but what about the resizing issues? That's the easy one. I'll get that completed in the next version.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Elnoyle
Every time I press the "Prepare" button (DVD-RB 0.24) for any DVD I've tried, with any settings I've tried, I get an error that says:

"Run-time error '5':
Invalid Procedure call or argument"

I'm surprised this hasn't yet been addressed. :( Are you using v.24?

[Elnoyle]

@jdobbs: Yes, I am using v.24

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'm actively working the runtime '9' and the pixelation/chapter errors. Expect to see an update on Friday. Good news. Can we assume this means you've figured out what the problem might be?

[brikin]

jdobbs
I get the

"Run-time error '5':
Invalid Procedure call or argument"

When I press the Rebuild button. I have gotten this error since some of your first releases. I am using .24 currently.

[redfive19]

@jdobbs

You know what? DIF4U labeled the video as NO PULL. Does RB perform pulldown no matter what? That might be a problem. Also, I noticed that the speed of CCE is dramatically less when launching from DIF4U (DOCCE4U) than with your app so some "filter" or setting is different. Not quite sure what just yet. I'm sorry, I really wish I knew more about CCE, AviSynth and all that goes along with it. Up until your app I just followed the Doom9 guide on the Big3 unless it had to be demuxed by VOBID, then I'd use a one click app.

-redfive

[JvD]

Originally posted by jdobbs
All,

I'm actively working the runtime '9' and the pixelation/chapter errors. Expect to see an update on Friday.

Thanks.

Thanks God its friday!!! ;-) DVD-RB without the runtime 9 error and some beer makes this day the perfekct end of this week. Atleast some of us is worth it. Cheers jdobbs!


PS. Darn how silent this place was this morning. But then, some of you guys might be needing some sleep I imagine. DS

[walkistalki]

@redfive

do you mean that the speed is slower when using dvd-rb?
then i have the same issue: 1.9 with docce and 1.5 with dvd-rb
didn't see any interlace scripts in the avs though

[JvD]

Me too has notices the slower speed compared to running CCE in other cases (with no deinterlace command). Its really not a problem, its like 1.6 instead of 1.8. But it WOULD be interesting ig someone could explain it.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by redfive19
@jdobbs

You know what? DIF4U labeled the video as NO PULL. Does RB perform pulldown no matter what? That might be a problem. Also, I noticed that the speed of CCE is dramatically less when launching from DIF4U (DOCCE4U) than with your app so some "filter" or setting is different. Not quite sure what just yet. I'm sorry, I really wish I knew more about CCE, AviSynth and all that goes along with it. Up until your app I just followed the Doom9 guide on the Big3 unless it had to be demuxed by VOBID, then I'd use a one click app.

-redfive You might check out the AVISYNTH file created by DIF4U. If it is slower there may be some filtering occuring (deinterlacing?).

[redfive19]

EXACTLY RIGHT!!! Here's a copy of the AVS from DIF4U

-----------------------------------------------------
DOITFAST4U AVS SCRIPT

import("x:\DoItFast4U\new.avs\addaudio.avs")

LoadPlugin("x:\DoItFast4U\new.avs\mpeg2dec3.dll")

Mpeg2Source("VTS__01_P06.I-TFF.16~9_1.d2v",idct=0)

LoadPlugin("x:\DoItFast4U\new.avs\decomb.dll")

FieldDeinterlace()

AddAudio()

ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)
----------------------------------------------------
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:03
#------------------
mpeg2source("Z:\BURN\DVDREBUILD\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(9150,16319)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)
AddAudio()

----------------------------------------------------
BTW, I just checked my final product in my dvd player and I have none of the jitteriness (I am not trying to compare the Big3 to your app!!!). So it seems FieldDeinterlace and decomb filter are the only things different (I don't count trim since I did not do a CELLID demux with DIF4U). Any plans to add them in the future? I wonder if I can add them manually from now on if such a case arises again. Would that mess up the rebuilding process?

-redfive

[StifflerStealth]

@redfive19: You can add anything to the avs scripts that are valid commands. You need to be in the 3 step process, and edit them before you click the "Encode" button. I knew there had to be some type of filtering going on, and now that you know what it is, you can modify the scripts accordingly. This is one of the reasons jdobbs made it easy to modify scripts. Remember this program is in early beta phase right now. Hopefully this stuff is detected later on. Sorry for not responding sooner.

Stiff

[redfive19]

@stiff
Dude I totally understand and I completely appreciate jdobbs' work. I am very excited to see the future of this app. The only reason I posted asking if it was going to be added was because this is a bug report thread. I figure he should know that I finally figured out what the heck was wrong!!! From now on, my process will be (and I know it sounds laborious but I'd rather do it this way):

1. Let DIF4U create the avs scripts based on field type.
2. Import that info (if applicable) into DVD RB's avs scripts. (I think I can find/replace/add in multiple AVS files with UltraEdit or NoteTabPro)
3. Press encode from DVD RB.
4. Complete the rest of the process as normal.

I think this whole experience has prompted me to learn more about field order, avi synth, and CCE. I probably would have known what the problem was sooner if I had studied these things before hand!
Thanks for all your help.

-redfive

[Pedro Gouveia]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I just tested it on mine and it works correctly. If you look in the resulting .ECL file you should see a parameter that says vbr_pass=n -- n will equal the number you entered minus 1 (vaf pass plus n more). Looking at the file .INI you sent above the value should be vbr_pass=3.

I'm back. If we stop the encoding process, then make a change in the number of passes, the REBUILDER.ECL doesn't get updated.

It only remembers the number of passes defined when the prepare process started.

[StifflerStealth]

@redfive19: Glad you found the picure quality your looking for. I agree with you on the fact that DVD-RB is an amazing piece of software. Hmmm, wait, scratch that! It's a _tool_, not some _piece_ of software. :-D

Stiff

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
I'm back. If we stop the encoding process, then make a change in the number of passes, the REBUILDER.ECL doesn't get updated.

It only remembers the number of passes defined when the prepare process started. I see. I create the .ECL file as a part of the PREPARE. So you're correct, changing the value only affects anything that has not yet been prepared.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by StifflerStealth
@redfive19: Glad you found the picure quality your looking for. I agree with you on the fact that DVD-RB is an amazing piece of software. Hmmm, wait, scratch that! It's a _tool_, not some _piece_ of software. :-D

Stiff I think that unless I get a couple of these bugs out it's going to be called a "piece of" something else completely.

[StifflerStealth]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I think that unless I get a couple of these bugs out it's going to be called a "piece of" something else completely.

Are you kidding or joking? It's hard to tell when ppl are when using text. Anyways, it's great with or without bugs.

Stiff

[MeridiusUK]

how do you know if the film is interlaced or no interlaced ????

[redfive19]

@Meridius

I tell with the app Bitrate Viewer. It comes up with all the info. I am sure there are other ways to tell. I know DoItFast4U has some command line app that scans the m2v file and determines the field order.

@jdobbs
bro, you're being way to hard on yourself (that is, if you are serious) I hope you've not taken anything I've said as an insult! I already told you, once this app gets worked out, I'd be willing to pay for it and I am sure others would too (although I don't know if you have plans to turn it to shareware). I think that's a huge compliment. Also, let me reiterate (sp?), this app worked on a DVD that according to DIF4U did not need vobID demuxing but must have anyway. You're app was the only way I was able to back it up with CCE. And it's an expensive set of dvd's I bought (Total Training for Adobe After Effects 6 - 13 DVD set! $450). Just with that, it's worth it's price. That's a huge investment and your app let me ensure that I don't have to purchase it again. Just my two cents!

-redfive

[robw]

just want to report that I did a batch process of 4 DVDs. I also turned on WinOFF so when the process was finished (20 hours later, whew!) my machine shut down.

These were very full DVDs of episodic material. I set up the ISO ripped files with Daemon's Tools virtual disk. After DVD-RB (3 passes since the original material was ~7.5 GB) finished, I took the output and ran it through DVDStripper to remove a small nag screen (the usual) and also to let it recreate the navigational stuff. The final DVD size was within 40-50 MB of full (i.e. around 4434 to 4444 MB). Video quality looks great.

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by redfive19
@Meridius

I tell with the app Bitrate Viewer.



Be careful! Bitrate viewer tells you the information written in the vob file witch is not always true. In Europe there are many dvds that declare themselves as interlaced (and so bitrate viewer tells you so) but they are not. Some examples are The lord of the rings the fellowship of the ring (Extended) and Pirates of the carribean.
Just in case you didn't know.
Ciao

[daxab]

I just tested it on mine and it works correctly. If you look in the resulting .ECL file you should see a parameter that says vbr_pass=n -- n will equal the number you entered minus 1 (vaf pass plus n more). Looking at the file .INI you sent above the value should be vbr_pass=3.Is this correct for 2.6x?

If I set the VBR passes option in the GUI to n, the .ECL file contains vbr_pass=(n-1), and CCE actually does n-1 passes.

So to get 3 passes, I have to set the number of passes to 4 in the GUI.

[psdos]

can someone say me what is VBR_bias adjust?

[robw]

Ideally you would set the vbr_bias according to the bitrate that is being encoded. As an illustration, although I have not confirmed these numbers, is that for a bitrate of 4000 kbit/s you might use a vbr_bias of 40, for a bitrate of 3000 kbit/s you might use a vbr_bias of 30, etc. Trilight has compiled a nice page outlining how the bias can be chosen.

http://www.trilight.com/dvdguides/flowchartguide/BiasAnalysis.htm

[wmansir]

Originally posted by psdos
can someone say me what is VBR_bias adjust?

VBR_bias governs the amount of variation CCE gives the bitrate between different parts of the movie. A high number means there will be little fluctuation in the bitrate, so action scenes may not be able to get all the bits they need to look good. A lower number means CCE will give more bits to scenes that require them, possibly at the expense of slower scenes.

[MeridiusUK]

so when you select the interlaced and non interlaced option how do you know then what you are picking.

as i have R2 dvds alot so will it make any diffrence to the film if this options is wroung

and if so why can dvd rebuilder not auto scan the film and then select it on its own ????

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by MeridiusUK
so when you select the interlaced and non interlaced option how do you know then what you are picking.

The best way to know if a mpeg2 file is interlaced or progressive is to open it into virtualdubmod, move the bar in a scene - change frame and look at it. If you don't know how to recognize an interlaced video frame this (http://mp3dom.altervista.org/guide/interprog/download/interprog.rar) can be helpful for you.

as i have R2 dvds alot so will it make any diffrence to the film if this options is wroung

The difference is really visible when you try to deinterlace a progressive file. In this case you will see visible encoding errors (strangely coloured blocks). If you encode a progressive video with interlaced settings but without deinterlacing it, you will not notice big differences.

and if so why can dvd rebuilder not auto scan the film and then select it on its own ????

I don't know

Bye

[robw]

This is a very good page on interlacing.

When is it harmful to deinterlace? When is it better to leave a picture interlaced?

http://www.100fps.com/video_resolution_vs_fluidity.htm

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by robw
This is a very good page on interlacing.

When is it harmful to deinterlace? When is it better to leave a picture interlaced?

http://www.100fps.com/video_resolution_vs_fluidity.htm

Very interesting link. :thanks: robw.:D
Bye

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by MeridiusUK
how do you know if the film is interlaced or no interlaced ???? It's flagged one way or the other within the MPEG stream

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by wmansir
VBR_bias governs the amount of variation CCE gives the bitrate between different parts of the movie. A high number means there will be little fluctuation in the bitrate, so action scenes may not be able to get all the bits they need to look good. A lower number means CCE will give more bits to scenes that require them, possibly at the expense of slower scenes. You're right here. Here is a quote from the CCE manual:

"Breaking into bit allocation strategy The encoder allocates bits based on the original evaluation standard, so that all images have the same visual quality. Changing the value of the Bias part breaks into this evaluation standard. 0 to 100 can be set here. The initial value is 30. As the value becomes smaller, more bits are allocated to complicated scenes, and at value 0, the bitrate fluctuation is largest. As this value becomes larger, more bits are allocated to simple scenes, and at value 100, streams closer to CBR are output."

I like to set the value between 10 and 15. Then more bits can be allocated to the scenes that are most likely to get blocky (high action).

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by StifflerStealth
Are you kidding or joking? It's hard to tell when ppl are when using text. Anyways, it's great with or without bugs.

Stiff I'm never serious about anything... :D

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by jdobbs
It's flagged one way or the other within the MPEG stream

Again what is written in the mpeg stream is not always true. At least for R2 pal DVDs! Please Jdobbs read my post in this thread at page 16 where I quoted a single line of a Meridius message about bitrate viewer. I think it can be helpful for your development. If you just read the mpeg stream information and set avisynth avs and cce conseuently, here in Italy (but I think also in other countries) we will have to change both avs and ecl by hand.
Bye

[wakebrder]

Wakebrder sees..............

*Jdobbs hard @ work*

*wakebrder hands Jdobbs a beer*

Donation is on the horizon.

Thanks

[Observer]

Most (95%) PAL movies are progressive (but often tagged as interlaced).

An easy way to manually check if a movie is interlaced or progressive is to open a VOB or M2V file in DVD2avi. Step through some part of the movie where there is motion. An interlaced movie will show horizontal lines around the moving object. You can not trust tools such as Bitrate Viewer when checking if a movie is interlaced.

For more information, please check the CCE faq in the doom9 forums.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by daxab
Is this correct for 2.6x?

If I set the VBR passes option in the GUI to n, the .ECL file contains vbr_pass=(n-1), and CCE actually does n-1 passes.

So to get 3 passes, I have to set the number of passes to 4 in the GUI. Yes it is correct for all versions of CCE except Basic (it will only do two passes). The source of the confusion is that CCE doesn't count the .VAF creation as pass 1. But it is.

Try this: Create a small file containing just a 1000 frames. Then set the parameters in CCE to 3 passes. Now run it and watch what happens. You will see a .VAF run of 1000 frames followed by 3 additional runs of 1000 each -- or 4 passes. If you are using v2.50 you will see a single .VAF run followed by a pass that appears to be 3000 frames (again, 3 additional passes).

The bottom line is: the VAF pass is a pass. It takes the time of a pass and serves the purpose of a pass -- so I'm calling it a pass. Setting the ECL value to 3 takes four times as long as single pass VBR (setting Q). The last thing I want is for people who don't understand the realities of VBR to waste hours doing passes that don't really provide significant improvement. So my program is setting the value to the number that TRULY represents what is happening.

But for those that are adamant about it -- you can always set the value in DVD-RB to one higher than reality.

[Forko]

first of all thanks for the hard work!

the problem i am having is after it scans the vts's in the beginning it then trys to load the .ecl file into cce. cce then gets a avifileopen error. i noticed that when i try to load the ecl by hand i get the same error, but it i cange the file extension to lowercase it then loads it fine.

BTW i am running winxp pro and cce 2.50

thanks

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Forko
first of all thanks for the hard work!

the problem i am having is after it scans the vts's in the beginning it then trys to load the .ecl file into cce. cce then gets a avifileopen error. i noticed that when i try to load the ecl by hand i get the same error, but it i cange the file extension to lowercase it then loads it fine.

BTW i am running winxp pro and cce 2.50

thanks Yeah, contrary to what some say there is still a bug associated with CCE 2.50 and audio. Under the avs options turn the ResampleAudio(44100) flag on, redo the Prepare, and it will likely work.

[Forko]

im sorry, where do i change that?

[jdobbs]

All,

Attached is v0.25 -- I didn't get everything in that I wanted, but I figured I'd post this version as it has been a couple days since I've posted. The changes are outlined below:

- Fixed the output sizing problem that was introduced in v0.22 -- DVD-RB should now fully size CCE output to take advantage of an entire DVD-R(W) disc.

- Added code to SETUP dialog that enables you to add the path to the MPEG2DEC.DLL file. I started to see errors related to load failures over-and-over -- if you set this and check the corresponding flag, the LoadPlugin() command is added as the first line to every .AVS file.

- Set a new default .VOB filesize (to match some other applications)

- Added code that disables entering either of the second two processes (ENCODE or REBUILD) unless the previous necessary processes (PREPARE or ENCODE) have been completed. I found that some folks were trying to skip steps and as a result were getting strange errors.

I'm still working on the pixelation/chapter stuttering that some are experiencing -- hard to do for me cause I'm having problems reproducing it. I'm still working and will post again soon...

ATTACHMENT REMOVED AFTER 2293 DOWNLOADS.

A newer attachment (v0.26) is available.

Click here to download (http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=466021)

[Forko]

duh, i see...

it is already checked off though

thanks

[acido]

Originally posted by jdobbs
All,

Attached is v0.25 -- I didn't get everything in that I wanted, but I figured I'd post this version as it has been a couple days since I've posted. [ ...CUT ]

Ciao jdobbs,
it's unclear to me if this version fixes the navpacks (chapters skipping) problem fixed by postprocessing with ifoedit.
Thanks, ciao

[Forko]

tested it with the new version and the menu item is checked off and it still wont work.

[JvD]

Do any of these fixes solve the runtime error 9?

[robot1]

I was looking at the working directory.
Does DV-RB create .avs and .ecl even in ReJig mode?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by robot1
I was looking at the working directory.
Does DV-RB create .avs and .ecl even in ReJig mode? Yes. I had to do the pass anyway, so I thought I'd create them either way. I personally like to use them for reference when I'm doing advanced features. I could turn them off they are annoying...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
Ciao jdobbs,
it's unclear to me if this version fixes the navpacks (chapters skipping) problem fixed by postprocessing with ifoedit.
Thanks, ciao That has turned into quite the project. It's the main reason no release has come out in 2 days.

[robw]

jdobbs
Thanks for all your hard work. Every two days for an update is unreasonable. Take a break!

[robot1]

Originally posted by JvD
Do any of these fixes solve the runtime error 9?

I've got for the first time the runtime error 9:
the source is an .iso mounted with daemon tools.
I had other backups ripping in filemode with no problem.

Do you rip in iso, or in file mode?

[KungFuCow]

I think there has been some talk about problems with Daemon Tools. You might want to try Alcohol 120% and see if that helps.

[robot1]

I normally rip in filemode, so, no problem. As Jdobbs can't repeat the runtime error, I was guessing.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by robot1
I normally rip in filemode, so, no problem. As Jdobbs can't repeat the runtime error, I was guessing. I always run in filemode. I guess I need to mount an image in Daemon tools and see what causes this. Just as an aside -- what is the advantage of mounting using Daemon tools instead of just copying using file mode?

[StifflerStealth]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I always run in filemode. I guess I need to mount an image in Daemon tools and see what causes this. Just as an aside -- what is the advantage of mounting using Daemon tools instead of just copying using file mode?

Mainly ppl coming over from the "Big 3" method use the source as an iso to ensure that no changes are ever made to the source. Using the "Big 3" method can generate a lot of files, and it can be easy to overwrite an orginal file.

Stiff

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
Ciao jdobbs,
it's unclear to me if this version fixes the navpacks (chapters skipping) problem fixed by postprocessing with ifoedit.
Thanks, ciao I need help with this problem. Since I can't repeat it I have to rely on what the folks experiencing it can tell me. The big issue now is that I can run it through IFOEdit -- and compare the values to the original or I can run it through DVD Shrink nad compare it to the original -- but even IFOEdit and DVD-Shrinks output files don't match... so who (if any) are at fault (especially on the "first audio packet" offsets -- which seem to be the only differences I can find. Could you please tell me:

1. Does it happen on NTSC, PAL, or both?
2. If you run it through IFOEdit VOB Extras:
2a. Does is fix it if you don't check the "Correct Original IFOs"? If so, what happens if it isn't checked?
2b. Are any of the "VOB EXPERT OPTIONS" checked? What happens if you don't check them?

Your help would be appreciated.

[flaystus]

edit: oops moved suggestion to correct thread.

[KungFuCow]

Just finished Lost In Translation again. Sizing issues look to have been resolved.

Im running it through IFOedit now and about to burn it. Ill report back shortly.

[KungFuCow]

Off and burning. This DVD was corrected using ONLY the Correct Nav Packs option. All advanced options were unchecked as was Correct Original IFOs.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Off and burning. This DVD was corrected using ONLY the Correct Nav Packs option. All advanced options were unchecked as was Correct Original IFOs. It was skipping/pixelating before you ran it through IFOEdit and then worked fine after? This is important!

[KungFuCow]

With above option ONLY checked, stuttering on chapter changing is still there. Ill run it through next with Correct Original Files enabled with no advanced options and reburn

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
With above option ONLY checked, stuttering on chapter changing is still there. Ill run it through next with Correct Original Files enabled with no advanced options and reburn Thanks, I appreciate it. Can you try it with just "Correct VOB-Unit (NAVPACK.." and with "Adjust VOB-Unit pointer" and "Adjust Audio/Subp" checked in the VOB EXPERT area? I'm trying to see if the IFO has anything to do with the problem at all...

[KungFuCow]

I actually had it all ran through IFOEdit with Correct Original IFOs and NAV Packs only checked so I went ahead and burned it. Chapter issues and other wierdness still there. Im going to run it through now with the settings you wanted and reburn.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
I actually had it all ran through IFOEdit with Correct Original IFOs and NAV Packs only checked so I went ahead and burned it. Chapter issues and other wierdness still there. Im going to run it through now with the settings you wanted and reburn. Thanks. If that fixes the problems, I might have this fixed tomorrow.

[djan]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I always run in filemode. I guess I need to mount an image in Daemon tools and see what causes this. Just as an aside -- what is the advantage of mounting using Daemon tools instead of just copying using file mode? Hi,

The advantage is to have an ISO file instead to have a bunch of files. It's all. And ah yes, I often use ISO mode because in the case I would use DVDStripper to strip something later, I always can mount my ISO file. It's too bad that DVDStripper can't handle DVD's ripped in mode file. :( It's because it has to rip the DVD itself by cell-id.

[djan]

Originally posted by robot1
I've got for the first time the runtime error 9:
the source is an .iso mounted with daemon tools.
I had other backups ripping in filemode with no problem.

Do you rip in iso, or in file mode? Don't make it this way or try Alcohol. Try your movie in file mode. I was getting the error '9' when I was mounting my ISO's. Since I stopped making it this way, I no more got this error.

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Thanks. If that fixes the problems, I might have this fixed tomorrow.

After running Lost In Translation through IFOEdit using the paramters you asked me to use, I can happily report I now have a 100% fully functional CCE backup of this movie that is not undersized and does not have any FFWD/RWD issues, chapter skipping issues or any sort of blockiness/skipping on channel transitions.

[Paced]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
After running Lost In Translation through IFOEdit using the paramters you asked me to use, I can happily report I now have a 100% fully functional CCE backup of this movie that is not undersized and does not have any FFWD/RWD issues, chapter skipping issues or any sort of blockiness/skipping on channel transitions.

Good to hear :cool:

[robot1]

Originally posted by djan
Don't make it this way or try Alcohol. Try your movie in file mode. I was getting the error '9' when I was mounting my ISO's. Since I stopped making it this way, I no more got this error.
I do rip always in filemode. I was just trying to find why many pepole get the error '9'.
I've copied all the files in a dir, and now I'm launching the third phase of rebuild again. If it works, I can surely think that error '9' is related to the use of an image.

[JvD]

Not so robot1! I neever use images with this apps AND I get this message on some movies. So if you lookinf for the problem, look somewhere else. Jdobbs allready know the source of the problem.
"I can tell you exactly what causes it. It's when there is a very long stream of non-video packets and I get a buffer overrun. It's usually caused by a still frame. I'll fix it soon." (Jdobbs, page 9 i think)

[robot1]

Ok, I thought Jdobbs fixed the still issue, and I didn't notice any still in the film I'm backing up.

[robot1]

I can confirm it's not related to the use of a mounted image. With the same film, I get the same error in filemode.

[Beer-chan]

I'm getting this CCE 2.50 SP error message

AVIFileOpen("F:\TEMP\D2VAVS\ITEM.ECL") : According to the registry, the type of file specified in AVIFileOpen does not have a handler to process it.


after clicking on the Encode button with build 0.24 beta and build 0.25 beta. I no longer have the older builds but I do know that I did not have this problem on build 0.19 beta. I did update EclCCE to version 1.8 though so that may be the cause of it. I don't have a backup of an older build of EclCCE to verify.

The preparation stage was successfull, btw.

[P3gasus]

@robot1 and @JvD

Were the file you were ripping in file mode set as read-only? If so, try to change this setting. I know that dvd-rb does not modify vob files and so the problem should not be this one but in my opinion it's worth a try.

Bye

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Beer-chan
I'm getting this CCE 2.50 SP error message


after clicking on the Encode button with build 0.24 beta and build 0.25 beta. I no longer have the older builds but I do know that I did not have this problem on build 0.19 beta. I did update EclCCE to version 1.8 though so that may be the cause of it. I don't have a backup of an older build of EclCCE to verify.

The preparation stage was successfull, btw. I did the same thing and got this error message -- I went back to eclCCE v.17b and it went away.

[robot1]

Originally posted by P3gasus
@robot1 and @JvD

Were the file you were ripping in file mode set as read-only? If so, try to change this setting. I know that dvd-rb does not modify vob files and so the problem should not be this one but in my opinion it's worth a try.

Bye

I get error 9 also with non write-protected files.

[GreatDane]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.25
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:
"Runtime 9".
Like many other I get the Runtime 9 error when VOB contains still. I've tested with mounted images, and with unprotected files in a folder.

I think that the author is doing a great job here, and I'm looking forward to the fix of this error, since it in many movies is a showstopper.

[chadp1a]

@jdobbs

Have you come up with a solution yet on the pixelation problems some are having?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by chadp1a
@jdobbs

Have you come up with a solution yet on the pixelation problems some are having? If the info I got from KungFuCow is accurate I may be able to complete it today. I'll have to post before knowing, however, because I haven't been able to repeat the problem myself.

[quantum]

If there's something I can do to reproduce KungFuCow's steps or anything else that will help with debugging, let me know. I have an encoded disk and plenty of dvd-rw's and I have the pixelation problem on my Pioneer standalone. You can also email me for quicker response if debugging.

[RB]

Originally posted by Beer-chan
I'm getting this CCE 2.50 SP error message


after clicking on the Encode button with build 0.24 beta and build 0.25 beta. I no longer have the older builds but I do know that I did not have this problem on build 0.19 beta. I did update EclCCE to version 1.8 though so that may be the cause of it. I don't have a backup of an older build of EclCCE to verify.

The preparation stage was successfull, btw.
Doh. I obviously screwed something up. Let me check.

[Oldeman]

I have used DVD-RB with ReJig from version .15 until .25. I just got my first subscript out of range during rebuild using version .25.

Windows 98SE, AMD 750, 256Mb ram. Movie Runaway Jury.
I think I 'll go back and try it on .24.

Great program....Makes it easy...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
If there's something I can do to reproduce KungFuCow's steps or anything else that will help with debugging, let me know. I have an encoded disk and plenty of dvd-rw's and I have the pixelation problem on my Pioneer standalone. You can also email me for quicker response if debugging. I found it. After several days of looking and scratching my head it turned out to be pretty simple. Frankly, from what I saw I'm surprised more people weren't experiencing this (including me)...

I should be posting v0.26 right after a little more testing.

[quantum]

Let me be the first to say, great news :)

[acido]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Can you try it with just "Correct VOB-Unit (NAVPACK.." and with "Adjust VOB-Unit pointer" and "Adjust Audio/Subp" checked in the VOB EXPERT area? [...CUT]

@jdobbs
Sorry to be late in testing the above, i see that you already found the error ( great new ! ) so i can only confirm that the steps you asked us to perform with IFOEDIT really solve the skipping and navigation problems. Waiting 0.26 ! :D
What is the status of the other major problems left : stills, multi PGC, multiangle and seameless branch support?
Do you think we are close to v.1? :)

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I found it. After several days of looking and scratching my head it turned out to be pretty simple. Frankly, from what I saw I'm surprised more people weren't experiencing this (including me)...

I should be posting v0.26 right after a little more testing.

Very happy to hear that.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
@jdobbs
Sorry to be late in testing the above, i see that you already found the error ( great new ! ) so i can only confirm that the steps you asked us to perform with IFOEDIT really solve the skipping and navigation problems. Waiting 0.26 ! :D
What is the status of the other major problems left : stills, multi PGC, multiangle and seameless branch support?
Do you think we are close to v.1? :) Muli-PGCs work now, stills are in the near future, multiangle and seamless branching are probably a week out.

[chilliman]

I got No CCE path has been set message when i press encode button. i use DVD Rebuilder v0.25, EclCCE v1.7b with CCE v2.50 and CCE v2.67.00.23. anyone have got error ?

[DirtyAbdul]

Originally posted by chilliman
I got No CCE path has been set message when i press encode button. i use DVD Rebuilder v0.25, EclCCE v1.7b with CCE v2.50 and CCE v2.67.00.23. anyone have got error ?

chilliman, did you already "setup" rebuilder? menu "options/setup" -> that's where you tell RB where cce is located ;) . if you are working with eclcce, you need to point to eclcce.exe and NOT to the CCE executable (this is actually explained a few pages ago, i think).

DA

[chilliman]

Originally posted by DirtyAbdul
chilliman, did you already "setup" rebuilder? menu "options/setup" -> that's where you tell RB where cce is located ;) . if you are working with eclcce, you need to point to eclcce.exe and NOT to the CCE executable (this is actually explained a few pages ago, i think).

DA

I have already point RB to eclcce.exe and NOT to the CCE executable, but i still get No CCE path has been set message :mad:

[robot1]

Does eclcce works alone? (not in DVD-RB)

[jdobbs]

All,

Linked below is the latest update to DVD Rebuilder (v0.26) -- this one has some important fixes and enhancements included... so bug reports on any earlier versions will go unheeded. A summary of changes is provided below:

- Corrected an error that was causing skipping and pixelation at chapter points when fast-forwarding and rewinding through chapters. This fix may also correct other problems that may not have been as apparent related to chapter points and navigation. Much thanks to the beta testers for pointing me in the right direction on this one.

- The bitrate calculating algorithm can now examine the original allocation by Cell and assign bitrates to each cell consistent with that of the original DVD. This essentially uses the original DVD as a "first pass" and gives more bandwidth to cells that need it. This could (theoretically) result in better quality. This "dynamic" bitrate allocation can be enabled by selecting "Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates" from the "Modes" menu.

- Added a flag accessible through SETUP that lets you force encoders to be run in a minimized, no-focus state. This may-or-may-not work (depending upon versions) when using eclCCE as an interface with CCE.

- Fixed an issue in which a NAVPACK reference frame could be off by one when the next PICTURE_START_CODE begins on a sector boundary. Not sure what impact it might have, but I noted it when investigating the pixelation/jumping problem that some have said they experience.

- Fixed an overflow problem that is the source of at least some of runtime error '9's that have been received during the REBUILD phase of DVD-RB. Not the only one, though.

- Made a few other minor changes for efficiency.


Click here to download. (http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=466021)

[kadilak]

First of all, thank you jdobbs for putting in so much work on DVD-RB. This utility is the best thing I've ever seen and I'll be donating shortly.

Version 0.26 seems to fix every problem I was having, but I do have a quick question for you.

When DVD-RB calls CCE, if I take a look at task manager on my machine, DVD-RB is using about 25% of the processor, while CCE is using the other 75%. Is this normal? I would think (and I'm probably wrong), that DVD-RB is just waiting for CCE to finish executing, so it really shouldn't be using any CPU, should it? Unless it's doing something in the background.

Once again, thanks for all your hard work.

[P3gasus]

I selected to add the line about mpeg2dec in avs file pointing dvd-rb to the correct file (MPEG2Dec3dg.dll). But it will not add that line to the avs files, causing avs script not to work (unknown function mpeg2source). I think that this is a small bug.
Thanks jdobs for your hard work

EDIT: Obviously that anomalous behaviour was found using beta 0.26.

[Beer-chan]

Did you read DVD-RB's Readme file?

3. Next, you must have a copy of MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL installed on your computer.
At the Doom9 site, download DVD2AVI dg. It (at this writing) is contained in a
ZIP file DECODEFIX100.ZIP. Open that zip and within you will find a file called
MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL. Copy that file into a directory called "PlugIns" under the
AVISYNTH directory (created in step 1). Putting it there could save you lots
of possible headaches later!

[P3gasus]

I didn't read this because I thought that if you chose to add the mpeg2dec line in avs file you will not have to work about it. Maybe it's me, but I think it's a small bug because the avs line it's not in the avs file although you tell the program you want it there.
Anyway thank you for pointing me this passage of the manual.
Bye

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
- Corrected an error that was causing skipping and pixelation at chapter points when fast-forwarding and rewinding through chapters. The moment we've all been waiting for.. is it really fixed? I just rebuilt and burned a disk I already had encoded. I plopped the disk it in my Pioneer. Pressed the next chapter button, and... waited... and there was no pixelation or stuttering. Nice work jdobbs. You can put this one behind you. I noticed the RW and FW seemed much more responsive and accurate. I didn't realize before there were problems with it until I saw how it should work (on this movie).

[KungFuCow]

There was also major problems with chapter skipping as well. Fortunately the movie Ive been using for testing has some sequences that makes all this wierdness show up. Im re-encoding it now and gonna make sure all of its gone in this version.

[quantum]

What do you mean by chapter skipping? With the obvious pixelation and stuttering out of the way, I did notice one thing that seemed odd. I tried to rewind at a chapter point and it jumped forward to the next chapter. But this only happened on one chapter.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by quantum
What do you mean by chapter skipping? With the obvious pixelation and stuttering out of the way, I did notice one thing that seemed odd. I tried to rewind at a chapter point and it jumped forward to the next chapter. But this only happened on one chapter.

Yes, no more pixelation problems.:)

I did notice that same chapter jump thing also.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by kadilak
First of all, thank you jdobbs for putting in so much work on DVD-RB. This utility is the best thing I've ever seen and I'll be donating shortly.

Version 0.26 seems to fix every problem I was having, but I do have a quick question for you.

When DVD-RB calls CCE, if I take a look at task manager on my machine, DVD-RB is using about 25% of the processor, while CCE is using the other 75%. Is this normal? I would think (and I'm probably wrong), that DVD-RB is just waiting for CCE to finish executing, so it really shouldn't be using any CPU, should it? Unless it's doing something in the background.

Once again, thanks for all your hard work. Hmm.. that's a little unexpected, but would explain why some folks have reported CCE speeds that are a little low... I'll definitely look at that. All I really do is check for the CCE process to end.

[jdobbs]

@Kadilak,

I just ran a couple of tests, and on my system CCE is getting 99% of the processor...

jdobbs

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
What do you mean by chapter skipping? With the obvious pixelation and stuttering out of the way, I did notice one thing that seemed odd. I tried to rewind at a chapter point and it jumped forward to the next chapter. But this only happened on one chapter. Chapter jump? Hmmm... just when I thought I was done with that part. It will have to wait until I clean up the remaining runtime '9' problems -- which, by the way, was more than just stills. I just found the code that may be responsible.

[robw]

I agree, my system is running CCE at 98-99% CPU usage

version 0.26 is looking good here. One small issue. When I set up a batch process by first setting up a project including deselecting some audio streams I don't want (e.g. 2 Channel, director comments, etc.) and then later open the project, the audio streams are again selected. It looks like the audio stream info is not getting saved with the project.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by robw
I agree, my system is running CCE at 98-99% CPU usage

version 0.26 is looking good here. One small issue. When I set up a batch process by first setting up a project including deselecting some audio streams I don't want (e.g. 2 Channel, director comments, etc.) and then later open the project, the audio streams are again selected. It looks like the audio stream info is not getting saved with the project. Uh oh. I knew there was something I'd forgotten to do when I released the batch code. Now I remember what it was.

[Beer-chan]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Hmm.. that's a little unexpected, but would explain why some folks have reported CCE speeds that are a little low... I'll definitely look at that. All I really do is check for the CCE process to end.
If the checking is in a loop that doesn't stop until the process ends, make sure the loop sleeps for a few milliseconds before checking the process again.

[nwg]

Jdobbs you have done a excellent job with this software.

I have dying to tell you what I think for the last few days. I have been use DVD RB since the first version. It took a couple of days to get it working properly but that was part of the fun with betas.

What are Stills? Are these photo galleries. The reason I ask, is I have managed to do Back to the Future which has photos with Rejig and CCE. However, it fails during building process after encoding with QuEnc (runtime error 5). The encoding is done successfully.

I have completed other DVD's successfully with QuEnc.

Well done.

[jdobbs]

@nwg,

Yep, photo galleries are a perfect example. Each still is an individual I frame. But more importantly for my program, it can be displayed for a long time with no additional video... that's what DVD-RB is having trouble with. I just need to fix it.

[nwg]

Thanks for the reply.

How can Rejig and CCE handle it on my setup then? It was the R2 version of the DVD.

[jdobbs]

Rejig doesn't surprise me, because it just transcodes. It worked with CCE?

[KungFuCow]

Interesting.. I just got a Run Time 9 error on Lost In Translation.. first time that's ever happened.

[kadilak]

Originally posted by jdobbs
@Kadilak,

I just ran a couple of tests, and on my system CCE is getting 99% of the processor...

jdobbs

Are you running an AMD or Intel Processor? I'm running a P4. Mabye it has something to do with hyper-threading?

[CiViC]

i tried working on The Lion King and Star Wars Episode 1 today, but both times CCESP 2.67 crashed when it tried encoding a 1 frame file... :(

*EDIT* I just read that DVD-RB can't handle these kinds of things just yet..sorry about the post then, i've been away from this kind of stuff for a while now, and just kind of stumbled upon this apparently amazing piece of software. It seems that I can finally backup my Alias Season 2 discs which were troublesome via the "big 3" method :)

[KungFuCow]

Run time error again.. This movie has NEVER done that with previous versions. Ive gone from :D to :(

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Run time error again.. This movie has NEVER done that with previous versions. Ive gone from :D to :( I may have a fix for that... I'm testing now.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Run time error again.. This movie has NEVER done that with previous versions. Ive gone from :D to :( Wait a minute. I blocked out the error I'm fixing in .26 -- it would have given an announcement before aborting... What error are you getting, '9'?

[KungFuCow]

Yes

[jdobbs]

Is it during PREPARE, ENCODE, or REBUILD?

[Oldeman]

I am getting error "9" during rebuild on .26 beta on two diffferent movies. One in second cell on Runaway Jury. One much later (vob7 or 8)in Seabiscuit. ReJig one button.

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Is it during PREPARE, ENCODE, or REBUILD?

During Rebuild

[DMagic1]

@jdobbs

Did you take out the option for "TargetSectors="?

I was trying that and did change my final size. I just wanted to try to fill the 125mb I have left in space a little more.

[nwg]

Rejig doesn't surprise me, because it just transcodes. It worked with CCE?


Yes. It was 2.50.

[Acerjen]

I have a question concerning the encoding process. After encoding, I notice a jump in the picture. I am calling it a jump, but I am not sure what it is. A split second hitch. I ran the original video through DVD2AVI and noticed that every time it did this was when the video changed from progressive to interlaced, which it down just for a split second. I hope I am explaining it well enough to give you all and ideal of what I am seeing. Anybody have any ideal what is going on? My main question is what are the proper settings for a video that have both Progressive and Interlaced frames? As well as Film and NTST frames? I am still new at this and still learning. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. In case it matters, the video is Stargate SG-1, disc 4. The overall rebuild process is fine, everything goes back together ok, no errors. I just noticed the video irregularites and thought I would ask. Thanks. Later.


Acerjen

P.S. Jdobbs, thanks for an excellent program and all the hard work and time you have put into it. A donation will arrive come my next payday. Thanks. Later.

[unplugged]

"Path to MPEG2Dec, Add to AVS" option doesn't seem to be respected at script creation time (ver. 0.25), I see no line with "LoadPlugin".

[kylan]

I get a buffer overflow error #4 (i believe it said) about 35% into the rebuild process of NTSC "28 Days Later." This has been an ongoing error since version .17, I just haven't been able to post.

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by unplugged
"Path to MPEG2Dec, Add to AVS" option doesn't seem to be respected at script creation time (ver. 0.25), I see no line with "LoadPlugin".

0.26 has this problem too. mpeg2dec line is not added to the avs script even if you ask dvd-rb to do that and you select the correct dll location.
Maybe next beta will fix this issue.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Acerjen
I have a question concerning the encoding process. After encoding, I notice a jump in the picture. I am calling it a jump, but I am not sure what it is. A split second hitch. I ran the original video through DVD2AVI and noticed that every time it did this was when the video changed from progressive to interlaced, which it down just for a split second. I hope I am explaining it well enough to give you all and ideal of what I am seeing. Anybody have any ideal what is going on? My main question is what are the proper settings for a video that have both Progressive and Interlaced frames? As well as Film and NTST frames? I am still new at this and still learning. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. In case it matters, the video is Stargate SG-1, disc 4. The overall rebuild process is fine, everything goes back together ok, no errors. I just noticed the video irregularites and thought I would ask. Thanks. Later.


Acerjen

P.S. Jdobbs, thanks for an excellent program and all the hard work and time you have put into it. A donation will arrive come my next payday. Thanks. Later. Are you saying the original source had the glitch and it carried through -- or that the output has the glitch. If it is the output it is likely a pulldown bug of somekind.

DVD-RB matches the source as much as is possible at the cell level. The threshold value in SETUP helps in the decision as to what point DVD-RB decides that the source is straight or pulldown.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by kylan
I get a buffer overflow error #4 (i believe it said) about 35% into the rebuild process of NTSC "28 Days Later." This has been an ongoing error since version .17, I just haven't been able to post. I'm actively working this. This used to be a '9' error. I inserted that "0004" code to see if this was the offending area -- glad you observed it.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DMagic1
@jdobbs

Did you take out the option for "TargetSectors="?

I was trying that and did change my final size. I just wanted to try to fill the 125mb I have left in space a little more. No, it should still be in. But remember, the output will not be exactly what you enter -- not all encoders will give you exactly the size predicted by bitrate.

[mikegun]

hi,

how do I have to calculate sectors/mb ?

regards,

mikegun

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by mikegun
hi,

how do I have to calculate sectors/mb ?

regards,

mikegun Each DVD sector is 2KBytes.

[Forko]

i just did show girls (the movie)but it only came out to 1.2 gig. its like it did everything but the main movie? i tryied it again but got the same results.


thanks

[Beer-chan]

I got this error at the start of the Rebuild phase (build 0.26 beta)

Run-time error '75':

Path/File access error

DVD-RB managed to create the VIDEO_TS directory inside the working path and create 4 files, VIDEO_TS.BUP/IFO and VTS_01_0.BUP/IFO, of filesizes 6KB and 64KB, respectively. I have enough diskspace for Rebuild to finish.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Forko
i just did show girls (the movie)but it only came out to 1.2 gig. its like it did everything but the main movie? i tryied it again but got the same results.


thanks That means it probably did nothing. The 1.2 gig probably represents files that DVD-RB decided to copy as-is... go into the D2VAVS directory and open on of the .AVS files with media player and see if there is some configuration problem.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Beer-chan
I got this error at the start of the Rebuild phase (build 0.26 beta)


DVD-RB managed to create the VIDEO_TS directory inside the working path and create 4 files, VIDEO_TS.BUP/IFO and VTS_01_0.BUP/IFO, of filesizes 6KB and 64KB, respectively. I have enough diskspace for Rebuild to finish. Could you post the path?

[nwg]

I just tried the 'dynamic cell bitrate' thing again and this time the output was only 3.89GB (QuEnc). I am doing the same DVD with the option switched off.

I was getting output of 4.33GB with 025.

[Beer-chan]

Sure. The working path is "F:\TEMP\".

[Beer-chan]

Originally posted by nwg
I just tried the 'dynamic cell bitrate' thing again and this time the output was only 3.89GB (QuEnc).
I added up all the .m2v files in the D2VAVS directory and also got 3.89GB with that setting enabled.

[redfive19]

are you sure your menu files and other vobs you left untouched aren't enough to make it 4.36 gb? are you adding this to your 3.89gb value? I've tried the dynamic cell bitrate thing last night and it worked perfect on Y Tu Tambien.

-redfive

[Beer-chan]

Originally posted by redfive19
are you sure your menu files and other vobs you left untouched aren't enough to make it 4.36 gb? are you adding this to your 3.89gb value? I've tried the dynamic cell bitrate thing last night and it worked perfect on Y Tu Tambien.
I was encoding a backup with no menus; just the movie, one audio stream, and all subtitles.

jdobbs, I forgot to mention this info with regards to my run-time error '75' problem.

[RB]

Originally posted by Beer-chan
I'm getting this CCE 2.50 SP error message

AVIFileOpen("F:\TEMP\D2VAVS\ITEM.ECL") :
According to the registry, the type of file specified
in AVIFileOpen does not have a handler to process it.

... I did update EclCCE to version 1.8 though so that may be the cause of it...

Originally posted by jdobbs
I did the same thing and got this error message -- I went back to eclCCE v.17b and it went away.

@jdobbs:
Confirmed that this happens with EclCCE 1.8. However, it's actually a problem with CCE-SP 2.50 and the ECLs you are generating. Try a drag'n drop of one of the Rebuilder 'ITEM.ECL' files into CCE-SP 2.50 (not using EclCCE) and you'll get the exact same error message. Strangely enough, it will happily load the ECL through the Load Project menu/toolbar options. Note ECL files saved from CCE-SP 2.50 can be dragged into CCE just fine.

The difference in EclCCE 1.8 now is that it simulates drag'n drop to load the ECL whereas earlier versions simulated the File - Open... menu command and then automated the Open File dialog. I'm a bit reluctant to take that out again because it's a lot cleaner and less error prone than the previous approach. Just save an ECL from CCE-SP 2.50 and compare. It looks like the order of the options in the ECL (which is vastly different in your ECL files) is important for drag'n drop ECL loading. Sorry for the confusion.

[nwg]

I added up all the .m2v files in the D2VAVS directory and also got 3.89GB with that setting enabled.


You can't go by that figure. I have had the D2VAS directory being only 3GB+ but the video_ts output came to 4GB+

I did a DVD twice. Once with 025 and came to 4.33GB and then again with dynamic cell bitrate using 026 and it came to 4.19GB.

I will have to wait a few hours to see if the 3.89GB I got before turns out more with the option switched off.

[Forko]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That means it probably did nothing. The 1.2 gig probably represents files that DVD-RB decided to copy as-is... go into the D2VAVS directory and open on of the .AVS files with media player and see if there is some configuration problem.

ok i opened the up and i get script error: there is no function named mpeg2source

or

script error: there is no function named add audio

i have the mpege dec path set and the add to avs file option checked

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Forko
ok i opened the up and i get script error: there is no function named mpeg2source

or

script error: there is no function named add audio

i have the mpege dec path set and the add to avs file option checked Does the path exist in the AVS files? If you set the path you have to then rerun the "PREPARE" phase (that's where the .AVS is created). Also, if you don't have the AddAudio() feature added to you plugin directory you may need to either uncheck it or check ResampleAudio(44100) instead (if using CCE 2.50)

[RB]

jdobbs, just noticed that the range for CCE quality_prec in Rebuilder is always 0-100. However, that's valid only for CCE-SP 2.50-2.64, CCE-SP 2.66/2.67 uses 0-64 for that option.

[Forko]

yes, it looks like they are all there

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
jdobbs, just noticed that the range for CCE quality_prec in Rebuilder is always 0-100. However, that's valid only for CCE-SP 2.50-2.64, CCE-SP 2.66/2.67 uses 0-64 for that option. Hmm.. that ain't good... I'll multiply the value times .64 before inserting it in one of the newer .ECLs... or put new values in the table -- whichever is easier

[quantum]

Just to show what is functional:
CCE 2.66.01.07
EclCCE 1.5a
DVDRB .26

Did Matchstick Men r1 with no errors and resulting directory was 4,649,646,080. Close enough for me.

I'm still wondering if we still have any weirdness with chapters. I see an occassional blip when RW but it's inconsistent and could be something unrelated to this process.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
Just to show what is functional:
CCE 2.66.01.07
EclCCE 1.5a
DVDRB .26

Did Matchstick Men r1 with no errors and resulting directory was 4,649,646,080. Close enough for me.

I'm still wondering if we still have any weirdness with chapters. I see an occassional blip when RW but it's inconsistent and could be something unrelated to this process. If so it would have to be related to the tables in the DSI. I might write a quick program that scans through the entire stream and looks for anomolies...

[nwg]

What is CCE quality_prec?

I read in one of the DVD RB threads about the bias number but not this one.

[CiViC]

Originally posted by CiViC
i tried working on The Lion King and Star Wars Episode 1 today, but both times CCESP 2.67 crashed when it tried encoding a 1 frame file... :(

*EDIT* I just read that DVD-RB can't handle these kinds of things just yet..sorry about the post then, i've been away from this kind of stuff for a while now, and just kind of stumbled upon this apparently amazing piece of software. It seems that I can finally backup my Alias Season 2 discs which were troublesome via the "big 3" method :)

Well my encode finished early this morning, and it wasn't really a success :( ... PowerDVD would get to the menu, but whenever i clicked play it just returned to the menu..burned to a dvdrw that worked fine in my standalone, but the places where it is interlaced (i think teh source is like 95% progressive, 5% interlaced) the video seems to stutter. I have nothing else I really need to encode at this time, so i'll just sit on the sidelines for now..

[Mad_Max_73]

runtime error 9 processing "spirited away" anime italian pal...
script out of range making d2v file of vts_1 that is only the universal logo...movie is vts_2

I've been able to process it after removing that with clone dvd2....

[Taro]

Hello,

I'm lucky (as you're :D ) to find this great tool. Thanks to JDobbs!
I use 0.24 DVD-RB (I know, there is a newer one, but I couldn't try it yet) and CCE SP 2.67.011 with eclCCE 1.7.

My problem is, when encode process starts, CCE appears, but it seems the .ECL file not to be loaded into it (the filename doesn't appear inside CCE, therefore CCE can do nothing).

1. I downloaded Hypo20's dvdrbini.zip (maybe I'm so lamer to set something incorrectly) -> result is the same, filename doesn't appear

2. I tried to open the .ECL file (was generated by RB) manually, but the result was the same -> filename doesn't appear

3. I made DVD2DVD-R to create an .ECL file, which I loaded into CCE. In this case everything gone well: filename was recognized by CCE, and CCE was set as requested.

What and where the problem is? (everyone can use CCE except me? :rolleyes: )

I discovered (and was mentioned by RB earlier), that the set-up of .ECL of RB is different from .ECL of DVD2DVD-r (or CCE).

Probably this can be my problem?
What should I do (set)?

Thanks in advance!
Taro

[nwg]

Taro

Have you tried this?

Tell eclCCE where the CCE exe file is. When you double clik on eclcce.exe for the first time it asks for the location of the CCE exe.

You then have to point DVD RB to the eclCCE file and not the CCE exe in the DVD RB setup.

Then DVD RB should load the ECL into CCE.

[RB]

Originally posted by Taro
I discovered (and was mentioned by RB earlier), that the set-up of .ECL of RB is different from .ECL of DVD2DVD-r (or CCE).

If you are using a trial version of CCE-SP 2.66/2.67 so that EclCCE is responsible for the ECL processing, that actually doesn't matter. EclCCE doesn't care about the order of the options in the ECL file, but a full CCE might care.

Can you post the contents of the ECL file you are having problems with?

[Taro]

Originally posted by nwg
Taro

Have you tried this?

Tell eclCCE where the CCE exe file is. When you double clik on eclcce.exe for the first time it asks for the location of the CCE exe.
You then have to point DVD RB to the eclCCE file and not the CCE exe in the DVD RB setup.
Then DVD RB should load the ECL into CCE.

Hi nwg!

Yes, I tried this. This was the first I set. ;)
(I gave the path of CCE for eclCCE first time and I set the path of eclCCE.exe for RB.)

But I stucked. I don't know why, but CCE wants to work only with another kind of ECL (like CCE's or DVD2DVD-R's) not the RB's one...

I'll drop my PC through the window. :mad:
(just a joke)

[Taro]

Originally posted by RB
If you are using a trial version of CCE-SP 2.66/2.67 so that EclCCE is responsible for the ECL processing, that actually doesn't matter. EclCCE doesn't care about the order of the options in the ECL file, but a full CCE might care.

Can you post the contents of the ECL file you are having problems with?

Hi RB,

Here is the ECL,which was made by DVD2DVD-R:

; CCE SP Trial Version -- Encoder Control List

[item]
title=H:\test\B...........Y_D9_06.01.2004_09.08\Video_0xE0.AVS
vid_out=1
vaf_out=1
aud_out=0
aud_mode=0
vid_file0=H:\test\B...........Y_D9_06.01.2004_09.08\Video_0xE0_NEW.M2V
vid_file1=H:\test\B...........Y_D9_06.01.2004_09.08\Video_0xE0_NEW.M2V
vaf_file=H:\test\B...........Y_D9_06.01.2004_09.08\Video_0xE0_NEW.VAF
aud_file=
file_focused=0
video_type=4
timecode=0x0
tc_ref_frm=0
drop_frame=0
cbr_brate=5250
opv_q_factor=
opv_brate_min=
opv_brate_max=
vbr_brate_avg=5250
vbr_brate_min=1000
vbr_brate_max=6951
vbr_bias=20
vbr_pass=4
create_new_vaf=0
pulldown_detect=0
letter_box=0
panscan=0
aspect_ratio=3
credits_tweak=0
credits_start=0x12439
credits_brate=6951
h_filter=0
h_filter_idx=0
use_filter=0
filter_val=0
dither=0
dither_max=0
quality_prec=15
intra_dc_prec=2
alternate_scan=0
non_linear=0
progressive=1
gop_m=3
gop_nm=4
gop_hdr=12
seq_hdr=1
seq_endcode=1
dvd=1
all_closed_gop=0
fix_gop_length=0
fix_vbv_delay=0
offset_line=0
half_width=0
half_height=0
uscc=0
lum_level=0
packet_size=2048
frame_rate_idx=3
qmat_idx=0
mpeg1=0
mpeg1_cps=1
brate_idx=7
stereo=2
samples_per_sec=44100
crc=1
width=720
height=576

[file]
name=H:\test\B...........Y_D9_06.01.2004_09.08\Video_0xE0.AVS
type=0
frame_first=0
frame_last=145448
encode_first=0
encode_last=145448

Unfortunately I cannot insert the ECL of RB, because I deleted the movie in the meantime (I encoded the movie with DVD2DVD-R)...

[Taro]

Tomorrow I'll insert the content of both of ECL files (I'm currently working not on my PC ;) )

[djan]

Originally posted by RB
jdobbs, just noticed that the range for CCE quality_prec in Rebuilder is always 0-100. However, that's valid only for CCE-SP 2.50-2.64, CCE-SP 2.66/2.67 uses 0-64 for that option. Hi, what value do you use for your DVD's RB ?

[Top_Cat]

I hope someone will be able to help me.

I have a problem with Rebuilder 0.26, it wont encode. I am using CCE Trial with ECLCCE but when using METHOD TWO and press the "Encode" button CCE lauches with "ITEM.ECL" as the title, but nothing happens there are nothing in the CCE window and Rebuilder uses 100% CPU. I left it like this for 3 hours but nothing was created.

Any ideas or advice?

Thanks
Tom

[RB]

@djan:
For bitrates above 3000, I use 30 in CCE-SP 2.67. Below that I use 25.

@Top_Cat:
Exactly which version of CCE and EclCCE? In the title bar, there is just "ITEM.ECL", not a full path like "D:\somedir\d2vavs\item.ecl"?

[Raymongo]

Encounterd the #0004 error during the rebuilding phase. Before version 0.26 the Runtime error '9' showed up at the same point. I played all files in a player and it does not come up with an error. The VTS itself holds 350 files of witch 300 files are the same sort(stills. but if played it's black screen) and size(45kb). But after 247 files rebuilded from VTS03 i get the error! I hoop it's helps you a bit and if you need more info please ask.

Disney's Dumbo / Version 0.26
CCE 2.0.67.23
Eclcce 1.7b
Bug See above

http://home.12move.nl/~sh918005/Error_0004_Rebuilding_Dumbo.jpg

[Raymongo]

I also still get the Runtime '9' error in the PREPARE Phase as discribed here: Original post (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=464418&highlight=kameleon#post464418)

De Schippers van de Kameleon / Version 0.26
CCE 2.0.67.23
Eclcce 1.7b
Bug see above

[dave88]

Nice Program, I tried it on Apocalypse Now Redux, a very long movie (202 min) I encountered no errors, but the final result came in at exactly 5 gigs

win2000
DVD-RB 0.26
CCE 2.67.00.23 w/ECLCCE 1.8

[Stive]

First Post. Had to wait five days...and have been almost glued to the pc reviewing all three threads. Made donation five days ago also 'cause I knew this program would eventually work for all.

Anyway, I did a no no, and stripped out the movie with DVDShrink (no compression) to obtain full quality for the movie. While the coding looks great, I have the stuttering(?) at the chapter points. I'm redoing the dvd with the full compliment of files *not just movie only) to see if the stuttering goes away.

I used: DVDrbv26, DVDShrink 3b5, CCE2.5, Avisynth 2.54, Ecl 1.7. The movie was LOTRings2.

Has anyone been successful in using DVDShrink, then DVDRB?

[loosenut]

Version 0.26
CCE 2.50
Eclcce 2.67.0.23 (1.7b)
Lion King 3, Love Actually
Error #0003 and #0004 (exactly like Raymongo)
That happens whether I use CCE or Rejig, at same point.

Up to now (from V. 018) everything worked as it was expected, except with 'hickups' at chapter points.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Top_Cat
I hope someone will be able to help me.

I have a problem with Rebuilder 0.26, it wont encode. I am using CCE Trial with ECLCCE but when using METHOD TWO and press the "Encode" button CCE lauches with "ITEM.ECL" as the title, but nothing happens there are nothing in the CCE window and Rebuilder uses 100% CPU. I left it like this for 3 hours but nothing was created.

Any ideas or advice?

Thanks
Tom Are you sure you pointed your CCE path to eclCCE? If you point it to CCE Trial directly you will get exactly what you've described -- because the parameters aren't recognized.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dave88
Nice Program, I tried it on Apocalypse Now Redux, a very long movie (202 min) I encountered no errors, but the final result came in at exactly 5 gigs

win2000
DVD-RB 0.26
CCE 2.67.00.23 w/ECLCCE 1.8 Which encoder did you use?

[nwg]

Has anyone been successful in using DVDShrink, then DVDRB?

I have. I used it to strip the audio and the IFO entries for the audio (DVD RB leaves these in).

[dave88]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Which encoder did you use?

CCE 2.67.00.23 SP (Trial) W/ECL CCE 1.8

[kadilak]

AviSynth 2.54
CCE 2.67.00.23
ELCCE 1.8
DVD2AVI DG Version

I'm still getting the skipping/stutter between chapters with DVD-RB 0.26. I ripped the VOB files for the Matrix Reloaded to my HD, then just pointed DVD-RB at em. The only thing I stripped out was the french audio. The prepare, encode, and rebuild procedures went just fine, no errors at all.

I have a Sony standalone DVD Player and I noticed in-between chapters it seems to freeze for just a second.

This occurs during normal playback of the DVD, not during ff/rw.

[dave88]

Originally posted by Stive

Has anyone been successful in using DVDShrink, then DVDRB?

In using DVDShrink(no compression) with Instantcopy 7 I found that it would have serious sizing issues if I used the "set start/end frames" feature in DVDshrink. Apparently some info is lost.

[compusion]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.26
2. CCE SP 2.67.00.23
3. eclcce 1.8
4. DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0003. Process must abort.
5. Let me know if you need the "Copy Status to Clipboard"

[Stive]

Originally posted by dave88
In using DVDShrink(no compression) with Instantcopy 7 I found that it would have serious sizing issues if I used the "set start/end frames" feature in DVDshrink. Apparently some info is lost.

Thanks. I didn't get than fancy though. All I did was strip out the main movie title with it's audio/subtitles and applied no compression. Perhaps the other weird thing was, I could not burn the resulting DVDRB files with nero (well, it gave me a "non-dvd compliant error" and asked if I wanted to burn anyway). I did not get the nero error straight from DVDShrink (except for the obvious that it would be to big). I was able to burn the DVDRB files with CloneDVD2 (no burning error noted). However, I still have the chapter stutter when playing.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dave88
CCE 2.67.00.23 SP (Trial) W/ECL CCE 1.8 Have you changed the default disc size with the "TargetSectors=" parameter?


Note: I edited this to make myself look smarter.

[Wimpy]

Hi,

I have been testing your fantastic tool for a while now and I have been very impressed with the results. I am currently doing a comparision of CCE, QuEnc and ReJig using Xmen 2 Disc 1 R2 as the source. In so doing I have noticed a wierd problem (which might be due to the original DVD) when CCE is used as the encoder.

The problem outlined below doesn't occur when using ReJig 0.5e. I am currently running a test encode with QuEnc 0.45 and I will post an update when it is complete.

EDIT - The Rebuild when QuEnc 0.45 is used as the encoder works correctly too, so this problem is only aparent with CCE SP.

Here is a listing of the VIDEO_TS from the original DVD, notice that VTS_02_0.VOB and VTS_03_0.VOB are zero bytes in length.

14,336 VIDEO_TS.BUP
14,336 VIDEO_TS.IFO
106,496 VIDEO_TS.VOB
77,824 VTS_01_0.BUP
77,824 VTS_01_0.IFO
61,294,592 VTS_01_0.VOB
1,073,739,776 VTS_01_1.VOB
1,073,739,776 VTS_01_2.VOB
977,911,808 VTS_01_3.VOB
1,073,739,776 VTS_01_4.VOB
1,073,739,776 VTS_01_5.VOB
1,073,739,776 VTS_01_6.VOB
55,449,600 VTS_01_7.VOB
14,336 VTS_02_0.BUP
14,336 VTS_02_0.IFO
0 VTS_02_0.VOB
20,015,104 VTS_02_1.VOB
16,384 VTS_03_0.BUP
16,384 VTS_03_0.IFO
0 VTS_03_0.VOB
214,302,720 VTS_03_1.VOB

.D2V and .AVS files are correctly created for VTS 1 and VTS 3, however they are never created for VTS 2 regardless of which encoder is selected. Is this correct? Maybe due to the 'small' size of VTS 2?

When the 'Rebuild' runs VTS 1 and 2 are correctly recreated, naturally VTS 2 is identical to the that on the original DVD as there is no transcoded/encoded .M2V to work from.

The real problem is this, VTS 3 is quite broken as it only comprises of the zero length VTS_03_0.VOB/.IFO/.BUP but not VTS_03_1.VOB.

16,384 VTS_03_0.BUP
16,384 VTS_03_0.IFO
0 VTS_03_0.VOB

All the .AVS scripts were successfully encoded into .M2V files. As I mentioned at the start, if I use ReJig 0.5e then VTS 3 is correctly recreated from the transcoded .M2V. All the .AVS and .D2V files playback in Media Player Classic. I am using DVD-RV 0.26, with current versions of all the other required software. I have "Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates" enabled and the problem shows up in both one click and three click mode.

I hope this info is useful, thanks once again for a great tool and I look forward to its continued development :-)

[petesafool]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.26
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23 trial
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.8)

@ JDOBBS / RB
With the configuration above I also get the same dormant CCE window as TOP_CAT - and yes the title of the CCE window is just item.ecl.

Didn't use to happen with v0.24 and CCE 2.66.01.07 and ECLCCE 1.4b.

Tried swapping back to earlier DVD-RB version and CCE via ECLCCE but got the same results. So maybe a ECLCCE problem?

hmmm - just tried with ECLCCE 1.4b and it's still happening }:-<

My DVD-RB status reads:
Phase II ENCODING started. Time: 01:49:45
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 00

[dave88]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Have you changed the default disc size with the "TargetSize=" parameter?

No, One Click mode, all settings default except VBR_Passes=4

Would enabling "Dynamically assign cell bitrates" possibly help?

[djan]

Originally posted by kadilak
AviSynth 2.54
CCE 2.67.00.23
ELCCE 1.8
DVD2AVI DG Version

I'm still getting the skipping/stutter between chapters with DVD-RB 0.26. I ripped the VOB files for the Matrix Reloaded to my HD, then just pointed DVD-RB at em. The only thing I stripped out was the french audio. The prepare, encode, and rebuild procedures went just fine, no errors at all.

I have a Sony standalone DVD Player and I noticed in-between chapters it seems to freeze for just a second.

This occurs during normal playback of the DVD, not during ff/rw. I have exactly the same problem if I don't pass it throug IfoEdit.

[djan]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Have you changed the default disc size with the "TargetSize=" parameter? Hi jdobbs, wasn't it TargetSectors instead TargetSize ?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by djan
I have exactly the same problem if I don't pass it throug IfoEdit. I'll look at this very closely. Does it studder if you play through a chapter point, or only when you skip to it?

[kadilak]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'll look at this very closely. Does it studder if you play through a chapter point, or only when you skip to it?

For me, it only happens when you play through a chapter point.

[djan]

Originally posted by kadilak
For me, it only happens when you play through a chapter point. The same for me.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by djan
Hi jdobbs, wasn't it TargetSectors instead TargetSize ? Yep. You'd think I'd know that wouldn't you? I actually had to open up the editor and look at the code to be sure...:rolleyes:

[dave88]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Have you changed the default disc size with the "TargetSectors=" parameter?


Note: I edited this to make myself look smarter.

:)

Is this something I should try? or something that would cause the sizing problem?

Thanks!

[Stive]

Originally posted by djan
I have exactly the same problem if I don't pass it throug IfoEdit.

FYI. On my preshrunk dvd, using DVDShrink to get movie only contents, the ifoedit did not fix the chapter studder either as a play through or if I ff to the chapter. I'm still waiting for full dvd encode to see the problem is my dvd player or how i used dvdshrink.

Would the AMD processor be a problem? I've noticed in other applications there need to be some work arounds or added features.

DVDRB26
CCE2.50
NTSC
AVI2.54
ECL1.7
LOTRings2
One Click

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dave88
:)

Is this something I should try? or something that would cause the sizing problem?

Thanks! Both. If you have set this value and are oversized it is the cause. If you are oversized and haven't set this value -- you can make it smaller.

But... My calculations should be close -- I get worried when I see output that is too large when using CCE...

[Acerjen]

Jdobbs,

Yesterday I left a message about a glitch in the video and you asked if it was in the original. No it is not. That is why I was curious about what the settings should be for video that contains mostly progressive frames but has some interlaced mixed in. It is at the interlaced frames that I see this video glitch. Any ideals?

Also, I have heard of pulldown but what exactly is it and why does it need to be performed? And when? Could this be my problem?

It is on this type of video only, with the interlaced frames mixed in. I did X-Men 2 Disc 1 today and it plays fine. It is 100% progressive frames.

I would greatly appreciate any ideals you or anyone else has.

Thanks again for a great tool. Later.


Acerjen

[dave88]

On investigating my sizing problem with "Apocalypse Now Redux" (202 min) I have found that DVDrb 026 calculates the reduction at 59.3% If I load the same files into DVDShrink it calculates the necessary reduction at 52% This would account for the result coming in at 5 gig.
Is there any way to set the reduction % manually?

DVDRB 0.26 - CCE 2.67.00.23 (trial) - CCE ECL 1.8

Thanks

[robw]

Code has been added to include audio selections when saving/opening project

Thank you for fixing this in v0.27! That will help in batch file processing video quality.

[Stive]

Originally posted by dave88
On investigating my sizing problem with "Apocalypse Now Redux" (202 min) I have found that DVDrb 026 calculates the reduction at 59.3% If I load the same files into DVDShrink it calculates the necessary reduction at 52% This would account for the result coming in at 5 gig.
Is there any way to set the reduction % manually?

DVDRB 0.26 - CCE 2.67.00.23 (trial) - CCE ECL 1.8

Thanks

I think that is what jdobbs was asking you earlier about using the "targetSectors". If you look a few pages back in the thread (either this one or the thread on suggestions) you'll see you can manually set the size. I've never used it, but I believe you open the dvdrb ini file in notepad and add a line.

[djan]

Wow jdobbs, you corrected a so big bug in this new version. I explain myself : I tried to backup a movie, the resulting first cell was empty. I mean, there was no video, nothing. But the gotten space on the HD was ~100MB. It happened only with CCE and only on the first cell. QuEnc and ReJig worked well. But now, it works very well. Again thx for your big work on this jewel.

[dave88]

Originally posted by Stive
I think that is what jdobbs was asking you earlier about using the "targetSectors". If you look a few pages back in the thread (either this one or the thread on suggestions) you'll see you can manually set the size. I've never used it, but I believe you open the dvdrb ini file in notepad and add a line.

I would'nt know where to begin, would I just subtract the difference between the two ie 5 gig - 4.35 (I assume this is default) = .65 gig too big, so target size = 3.7 gig ? how would I express this in sectors?

[troy]

I tried to back up "holes" again and this time the file size was not 2.2gb but was 3.87gb with dvdrb .26. The original dvd is 7.16 gb which includes extras and previews. As I stated before this is probably an unfair movie to do at this early stage because there are 3 vts sectors. Well when I put the dvd in my pioneer dvd stand alone I get a blank screen with only red on the bottom. When I press menu I get the main menu and everything seems to go good from there. Then the movie just stopped at the end of a chapter. I pressed play and the movie played the rest of the way ok.

[troy]

Sorry In my previous post I stated I have rb .26 when I was using rb .25.

[robw]

@troy
that sounds exactly like what happens when the program can's find the mpeg2dec3.dll (or mpeg2dec3dg.dll) file. I was having this problem early on. The best way to fix it is to look at your registry. Here's how you do this

1. run regedit from the start menu
2. search HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE for AviSynth
3. look at the entry for plugindir2_5
4. your mepg2dec3.dll file should be in this directory. If it's not either change the directoy location in the registry or move the mped2dec3.dll file to the indicated location.

once you've done this the red bars will be a thing of the past! If you've never used regedit, ask for more help. This is your solution.

[dave88]

Originally posted by dave88
On investigating my sizing problem with "Apocalypse Now Redux" (202 min) I have found that DVDrb 026 calculates the reduction at 59.3% If I load the same files into DVDShrink it calculates the necessary reduction at 52% This would account for the result coming in at 5 gig.
Is there any way to set the reduction % manually?

DVDRB 0.26 - CCE 2.67.00.23 (trial) - CCE ECL 1.8


Update: I reauthored with DVDshrink (no compression) movie only and tried again, now DVDrb calculates a reduction of 52.2% this looks about right (it's encoding now) so something on the full disk is tripping up DVDrb's calculations.

Thanks for the awesome tool :)

Update: The DVDShrink Reauthored copy compressed fine and came in at 4.32

[djan]

Originally posted by dave88
I would'nt know where to begin, would I just subtract the difference between the two ie 5 gig - 4.35 (I assume this is default) = .65 gig too big, so target size = 3.7 gig ? how would I express this in sectors? Each sector = 2 kilobytes.

[Wimpy]

Hi,

My QuEnc 0.45 encode and rebuild completed overnight and I have update my original post too.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=466682#post466682

In short, the partial rebuild only occurs when using CCE SP, but when ReJig 5.0e or QuEnc 0.45 are selected all the Video Title Sets get rebuilt correctly.

I see 0.27 is available so I am off to play some more ;-)

[2COOL]

Originally posted by kylan
I get a buffer overflow error #4 (i believe it said) about 35% into the rebuild process of NTSC "28 Days Later." This has been an ongoing error since version .17, I just haven't been able to post.

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'm actively working this. This used to be a '9' error. I inserted that "0004" code to see if this was the offending area -- glad you observed it.
Just did Stuart Little 2 NTSC with DVD-RB 0.26. I got this message during Rebuild when it tried to process V01007800003001.m2v. I was 0.6% in rebuild stage.

"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0003. Process must abort."
When I viewed V01007800003001.m2v, all I saw was a still clip of a NullSoft Video logo and my file was at 25,974 KB.

I'm using DVD-RB 0.26
CCE SP Ver 2.66.01.07 (Trial)
EclCCE 1.7b
AVISynth 2.54

What's the difference between Error #0003 and #0004? Also, what is the difference with other buffer overflow #s?

[VampHuntD]

Yo Jdobbs,
First off, this program kicks a whole lotta ass, makes life much easier for back ups. Secondly having a very very small issue but I'm curious to see if it's happened to others. Using these

DVD-RB .26
CCE 2.67 trial
Avisyth 2.54
and eclcce 1.7

Everything works in the process, but after I burned it on a dvd-rw it freezes at some points. It continues in about 30-60 seconds and goes on, so it could just be my dvd player (which is an xbox) but I've never had another backup do this. Has anyone else had this issue?

[RB]

Originally posted by 2COOL
Just did Stuart Little 2 NTSC with DVD-RB 0.26.
Could it be it has multiple angles? At least for the R2 PAL version, there's a short multi-angle part at the beginning of the main movie. If so, that could be it because Rebuilder doesn't support interleaved cells yet.

[2COOL]

Using my 0.26 files in my D2VAVS folder, I used v0.27 on them. As I type, I'm over 50% of processing in rebuild stage. Coool! I took a look at the history of 0.27 and this is what concerned me at the moment.

Mar 29th, 2004 (v0.27)
- Fixed an error in which SCRs resetting within a VTS could cause buffer overruns and "Runtime error '9'" errors. This should fix a majority of the overrun problems.

Viewing my REBUILDER.INF, this is what I had with my problem m2v I previously posted.

[V01007800003001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25345.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=1
Frames=2824
Last_Sector=53443
Reduction=49.1

May have to do this DVD from scratch again but will wait to see how it comes out after this test.

[2COOL]

Originally posted by RB
Could it be it has multiple angles? At least for the R2 PAL version, there's a short multi-angle part at the beginning of the main movie. If so, that could be it because Rebuilder doesn't support interleaved cells yet. Yes, you are correct. My version has multi-angles too. :(

[kylan]

Using version 0.27 the buffer overflow (#0004) error still occurs exactly 35.0% into the rebuild process of NTSC "28 Days Later."

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dave88
On investigating my sizing problem with "Apocalypse Now Redux" (202 min) I have found that DVDrb 026 calculates the reduction at 59.3% If I load the same files into DVDShrink it calculates the necessary reduction at 52% This would account for the result coming in at 5 gig.
Is there any way to set the reduction % manually?

DVDRB 0.26 - CCE 2.67.00.23 (trial) - CCE ECL 1.8

Thanks You shouldn't have to. Tonight I will go back and look at my calculations. If it is oversizing there has to be something wrong...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Could it be it has multiple angles? At least for the R2 PAL version, there's a short multi-angle part at the beginning of the main movie. If so, that could be it because Rebuilder doesn't support interleaved cells yet. I think I will add some code to identify multi-angles and call them out so people know then a problem is related...

[2COOL]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I think I will add some code to identify multi-angles and call them out so people know then a problem is related... That would be a plus! Also, I mentioned this in the suggestion thread.

Originally posted by 2COOL
DVD2DVD-R gives us a detection status on what kind of video we are dealing with prior to. Possibly, a feature to do one like this or have a seperate pane displaying what we are dealing with prior or in real-time. e.g. interlaced, progressive, pulldown, etc...

[Raymongo]

Well after rebuilding with version 0.27 i now get another error: Run-time error '6' Overflow
It happens at an other point namely in the Main Movie after having done 36 of the 38 segments in the VTS
The movie is still Disney's Dumbo processed and encoded with version 0.26.And with this version it did not come up with this error it just went past this point and come up later with the #0004 error.
I've not yet done the whole process over again and will try so now.

http://home.12move.nl/~sh918005/Run-time_error_6.jpg

[Top_Cat]

Originally posted by RB
@Top_Cat:
Exactly which version of CCE and EclCCE? In the title bar, there is just "ITEM.ECL", not a full path like "D:\somedir\d2vavs\item.ecl"?

I am using CCE SP Trial Ver. 2.66.01.07 with EclCCE v 1.8

The Path is correct and pointing to ITEM.ECL in the D2VAVS folder of the Working Path.

In DVD-RB it says:
Phase II ENCODING started. Time: 12.06.04
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 00

I have the MPEG2Dec3dg.dll in the plugin directory of Avisynth 2.5.

Should I change to another version of CCE? If so does anyone have a direct link to a more updated version?

Any other suggestions?

[nwg]

I said in a earlier post,
I have managed to do Back to the Future which has photos with Rejig and CCE. However, it fails during building process after encoding with QuEnc (runtime error 5). The encoding is done successfully.

Just to let you know.

I decided to rebuild the BTTF QuEnc DVD with 027 and also got the runtime error 6 on a DVD with 027 with rebuilding. It seems to have changed from runtime error 5. It failed at the same point.

Doing the whole process from the start with 027 doesn't change the results.

Also, does it matter if I have addaudio ticked when using QuEnc? I use it for CCE but, I wonder if my problem was down to the avisynth part at the beginning. I can still do the same DVD in CCE and Rejig.

[wmansir]

@nwg

Could it be due to stills being present? RB has a problem with stills, though I don't know the error code produced. I started to do BTTF II, but stopped when I noticed it contained stills.

[RB]

Originally posted by Top_Cat
I am using CCE SP Trial Ver. 2.66.01.07 with EclCCE v 1.8

The Path is correct and pointing to ITEM.ECL in the D2VAVS folder of the Working Path.
What operating system do you use? When you click Abort in Rebuilder at this time, can you load the ITEM.ECL into CCE manually? Did you run EclCCE.exe manually at least once and pointed it to the CCE executable?

[Taro]

Hello,

I see, Top_Cat has the same problem, like me:
Phase II, Encoding process starts, CCE appears (with the path of ITEM.ECL file (F:\Test\D2VAVS\ITEM.ECL) in the header of it), but nothing happens, CCE doesn't work although Rebuilder owns 100% processor time.

As I mentioned yesterday, I set the path of CCE in eclCCE and set the path of eclCCE in Rebuilder.

JDobbs or anyone, what can the problem be at Top_Cat and me?

(I'm using CCE SP Trial v2.67.011 with EclCCE v1.7b, OS: Win2000)

[nwg]

wmansir wrote,
Could it be due to stills being present? RB has a problem with stills, though I don't know the error code produced. I started to do BTTF II, but stopped when I noticed it contained stills.

It does have photos but it worked fine with CCE but not QuEnc. That is the weird thing.

[djan]

Hi,

I'm getting a CCE crash with "PANIC ROOM" DVD. There is the print screen :

http://users.skynet.be/djan/DVDRB_027-CCE_Crash.jpg

It's just after the fifth vaf just before beginning the m2v encoding of this same cell. I'm using CCE 2.50 with ECLECC 1.7b. What can be the problem ? The AVS file works well.

[RB]

Originally posted by Taro
Hello,

I see, Top_Cat has the same problem, like me:
Phase II, Encoding process starts, CCE appears (with the path of ITEM.ECL file (F:\Test\D2VAVS\ITEM.ECL) in the header of it), but nothing happens, CCE doesn't work although Rebuilder owns 100% processor time.

As I mentioned yesterday, I set the path of CCE in eclCCE and set the path of eclCCE in Rebuilder.

JDobbs or anyone, what can the problem be at Top_Cat and me?

(I'm using CCE SP Trial v2.67.011 with EclCCE v1.7b, OS: Win2000)
And the CCE window stays empty, no files listed etc.? Did you set the CCE process priority to Idle in the EclCCE settings in CCE? If so, try setting it to Normal or Default. Does this fix it?

[Taro]

Originally posted by RB
And the CCE window stays empty, no files listed etc.? Did you set the CCE process priority to Idle in the EclCCE settings in CCE? If so, try setting it to Normal or Default. Does this fix it?

Yes, no file is listed in CCE window.
I think, the priority was set to Default and after some trying I set it to High (or something like this). But it also didn't work.
I think, the priority affects only encoding the video, but not affects loading/saving ECL file. But I'll try your tip (I'll have possibility to test it unfortunately only tomorrow). BTW. thanks for it!

[Kakashi Sensei]

With version .27 i get an overflow error#0004 during rebuilding

using DVD-RB V.27
CCE 2.66 trial
OS WinXp

And its on the DVD 28 Days later

[Top_Cat]

Originally posted by RB
What operating system do you use? When you click Abort in Rebuilder at this time, can you load the ITEM.ECL into CCE manually? Did you run EclCCE.exe manually at least once and pointed it to the CCE executable?

I am running Windows 2003 server. When I click abort it abort and then try to open ITEM.ECL or REBUILDER.ECL manually (File/Open/Project) it still down not work. However if I go File/Open/File and select V01000000001001.AVS then it appears in the CCE window and encode it (well I think it encodes it, I've not used CCE before but it looks to me that it works cos V01000000001001.AVS appears in the CCE window and a popup appears saying saving V01000000001001.mpv etc..)

I have tried setting it to Normal and High Priority but it still did not help.

The DVD is FireFly Disc 2 if that makes any difference.

Hope this helps. any more information needed then please let me know

[chadp1a]

Also getting the overflow error#0004 during rebuilding


using......

DVD-RB V.27
CCE 2.67 trial
OS WinXp



This error did not occur with the .26 version.

[huesage]

@jdobbs:

I ran a test with the following setup:

- DVD Rebuilder 0.27
- EclCCE (latest version)
- CCE SP Trial ;-) 2.67
- Big Lebowski NTSC (7.90GB) 1:1 nothing stripped.

When doing this backup on 2 passes, everything went really smooth. After that I decided to try 7 passes to compensate for the really large size. It did not go as well, my computer did an auto reboot.

Now, I cannot say if it is DVD Rebuilders problem or not. I am doing a 7 pass with same setup but using CCE SP 2.50 and will see how that goes (23% and going). I will also try 7 pass using CCE SP 2.67 again to see if the reboot is consistent.

But so far, I have tried 7 pass 2 times, on 2 different movies that I own and both times computer rebooted when left running over night.

By the way, I will comfirm that the "minimize CCE" option does not work when running through EclCCE as you said.

I will post more once this test goes through, I highly doubt that it is a hardware problem, the system seems to be running fine.

It also might just be my version of CCE SP 2.67, so do not look into this one right away.

[nwg]

Do you really need to do 7 passes?

with a 7.9GB size, I would do 4 passes maximum. The extra time probably won't improve the video quality.

What happens if you put it on 4 or 5 passes?

[Trahald]

top_cat.. this happened to me with 2.67 what the problem i found out to be was i had it set to 2.67 BASIC when i did the PREPARE step. when i changed it to the cce setting to cce 2.66+ it didnt help, but that was because the ecl files were already written for 2.67 basic. all i had to do was make sure 2.66+ was checked and redo the PREPARE step (also make sure add audio and converttoyuy2 is checked in avs options) and it worked fine after that

[huesage]

I am very picky as far as quality is concerned... which is why i do not take chances, I just do 7 passes.

But that is not the point, the point is that when doing a 7 pass with this setup, my comp reboots on me ;-)

PS: thanx for the tip.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by huesage
I am very picky as far as quality is concerned... which is why i do not take chances, I just do 7 passes.Well, according to most experts on the matter, VAF+2 passes is already enough. IIRC, even the CCE manual does not recommend such a high number of passes, and in fact if the BR is adequate, more passes than needed produce a worse output.

Of course you're free to encode as you prefer, but IMHO you are taking the wrong chances with 7 passes.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Top_Cat
I am running Windows 2003 server. When I click abort it abort and then try to open ITEM.ECL or REBUILDER.ECL manually (File/Open/Project) it still down not work. However if I go File/Open/File and select V01000000001001.AVS then it appears in the CCE window and encode it (well I think it encodes it, I've not used CCE before but it looks to me that it works cos V01000000001001.AVS appears in the CCE window and a popup appears saying saving V01000000001001.mpv etc..)

I have tried setting it to Normal and High Priority but it still did not help.

The DVD is FireFly Disc 2 if that makes any difference.

Hope this helps. any more information needed then please let me know Just as an aside -- this is a great series isn't it? I own this one (NTSC) and will try it myself.

[kadilak]

Not trying to be a pain, just not sure if you saw the post because this thread has been pretty active. :)

Both djan and I are seeing freezing in the video when playing through chapter points. There is no pixelation, it just freezes for mabye 1/2 a second before moving to the next chapter.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Trahald
top_cat.. this happened to me with 2.67 what the problem i found out to be was i had it set to 2.67 BASIC when i did the PREPARE step. when i changed it to the cce setting to cce 2.66+ it didnt help, but that was because the ecl files were already written for 2.67 basic. all i had to do was make sure 2.66+ was checked and redo the PREPARE step (also make sure add audio and converttoyuy2 is checked in avs options) and it worked fine after that I will add a check that warns when you try to run different settings across phases. This seems to be a continuing problem that I should have considered...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by chadp1a
Also getting the overflow error#0004 during rebuilding


using......

DVD-RB V.27
CCE 2.67 trial
OS WinXp



This error did not occur with the .26 version. Good comment. It may help point to the specific area, because I know exactly what I changed in this area... Did the .26 version work without problems?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by huesage
@jdobbs:

I ran a test with the following setup:

- DVD Rebuilder 0.27
- EclCCE (latest version)
- CCE SP Trial ;-) 2.67
- Big Lebowski NTSC (7.90GB) 1:1 nothing stripped.

When doing this backup on 2 passes, everything went really smooth. After that I decided to try 7 passes to compensate for the really large size. It did not go as well, my computer did an auto reboot.

Now, I cannot say if it is DVD Rebuilders problem or not. I am doing a 7 pass with same setup but using CCE SP 2.50 and will see how that goes (23% and going). I will also try 7 pass using CCE SP 2.67 again to see if the reboot is consistent.

But so far, I have tried 7 pass 2 times, on 2 different movies that I own and both times computer rebooted when left running over night.

By the way, I will comfirm that the "minimize CCE" option does not work when running through EclCCE as you said.

I will post more once this test goes through, I highly doubt that it is a hardware problem, the system seems to be running fine.

It also might just be my version of CCE SP 2.67, so do not look into this one right away. First I'd recommend (and have said before) that there is never a good reason to do more than 4 passes -- but since no one wanted to listen to that and apparently had a lot of spare computing time; I added the additional passes as an option.

I'm going way back here -- but I seem to recall a memory leak error that existed in 2.50... how much memory does your system have?

[huesage]

@r6d2

I guess more is not always better, where can we talk about number of passes? this thread is not really for that.

Please get in touch with me as I am interested in learning more about the topic.

Thank you.

[r6d2]

Originally posted by huesage
I guess more is not always better, where can we talk about number of passes? this thread is not really for that.Last off-topic comment:

Well, almost every guide on this site can confirm my statement. Some may be a little outdated, of course, but you can take a look at the guide on my sig for a whole picture on why 1 well done pass is good enough (although defying the laws of physics). ;)

About your problem, IIRC and as jddobs pointed out, some CCE versions had memory leak problems and that is more noticeable when heavy multipassing. You may try to see in task manager if swap space constantly grows with each pass.

[chadp1a]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Good comment. It may help point to the specific area, because I know exactly what I changed in this area... Did the .26 version work without problems?


yes. the .26 version worked flawlessly other than a 10 second still picture that pulsated very little.

[Top_Cat]

Originally posted by Trahald
top_cat.. this happened to me with 2.67 what the problem i found out to be was i had it set to 2.67 BASIC when i did the PREPARE step. when i changed it to the cce setting to cce 2.66+ it didnt help, but that was because the ecl files were already written for 2.67 basic. all i had to do was make sure 2.66+ was checked and redo the PREPARE step (also make sure add audio and converttoyuy2 is checked in avs options) and it worked fine after that

That sorted it I think! well done Trahald.

I also checked my AVS options and add audio was not ticked so I ticked this.

btw. Firefly is fantastic, I also have the NTSC version cos I ordered it from the states. Fantastic series and a great loss that it was cancelled! But the good news is the film is being made :)

[brikin]

Thanks for the tool JDobbs. 0.27 fixed my '9' error. When I loaded the files in Nero it said my .BUP did not match my .IFO. I deleted the .BUP and copied and renamed my .IFO's to .BUP and everything burned fine. I didn't know if this issue has been brought up or not.

Thanks again

[hypo20]

Originally posted by huesage
@jdobbs:

I ran a test with the following setup:

- DVD Rebuilder 0.27
- EclCCE (latest version)
- CCE SP Trial ;-) 2.67
- Big Lebowski NTSC (7.90GB) 1:1 nothing stripped.

When doing this backup on 2 passes, everything went really smooth. After that I decided to try 7 passes to compensate for the really large size. It did not go as well, my computer did an auto reboot.

Now, I cannot say if it is DVD Rebuilders problem or not. I am doing a 7 pass with same setup but using CCE SP 2.50 and will see how that goes (23% and going). I will also try 7 pass using CCE SP 2.67 again to see if the reboot is consistent.

But so far, I have tried 7 pass 2 times, on 2 different movies that I own and both times computer rebooted when left running over night.

By the way, I will comfirm that the "minimize CCE" option does not work when running through EclCCE as you said.

I will post more once this test goes through, I highly doubt that it is a hardware problem, the system seems to be running fine.

It also might just be my version of CCE SP 2.67, so do not look into this one right away.

I did 7-pass on Pearl Harbor and works fine. BTW it was doing 8 hours on myh machine. :o)

[nwg]

I would like to report a strange bug.

A few times now when I abort the encoding process, I lose all my icons on the desktop and in the taskbar. I have to reboot to get the desktop icons back but lost the taskbar ones completely.

It has done it on several versions of DVD RB.

[robw]

A few times now when I abort the encoding process, I lose all my icons on the desktop and in the taskbar. I have to reboot to get the desktop icons back but lost the taskbar ones completely.

This has happened to me as well. I haven't looked in to it completely but I believe it only happens when you abort a process during the CCE phase (so is it DVDRB, CCE, or EclCCE?)

All my desktop icons are MIA as well as those on the taskbar.

OS: Windows XP SP1

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by robw
This has happened to me as well. I haven't looked in to it completely but I believe it only happens when you abort a process during the CCE phase (so is it DVDRB, CCE, or EclCCE?)

All my desktop icons are MIA as well as those on the taskbar.

OS: Windows XP SP1 Wow. I'm better than I thought. I don't even know how I'm doing that!

[r6d2]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Wow. I'm better than I thought. I don't even know how I'm doing that! The Lord works in mysterious ways... :D

[robot1]

I still get error 9 in rebuilding phase:
DVD-RB 0.27 with Rejig engine, backing up DVD NTSC U2 Go Home.
It's a concert, interlaced 30 fps. Two VTS, with no angle and no stills.
If I could help with others info, let me know.

[Top_Cat]

Originally posted by Top_Cat
That sorted it I think! well done Trahald.

I also checked my AVS options and add audio was not ticked so I ticked this.

btw. Firefly is fantastic, I also have the NTSC version cos I ordered it from the states. Fantastic series and a great loss that it was cancelled! But the good news is the film is being made :)

ooops spoke to soon!
Well that problem is resolved the next problem that I have encountered is that everything seems to work fine when I press ENCODE (took 1 hour to encode) but it did not encode the main TV episodes just the menus!

I pressed REMERGE and it said that there are no files, and that I needed to PROCESS and ENCODE! I checked the created VIDEO_TS folder and it is only 65MB with just the menu files created.

Any idea's? was there a box I forgot to tick or something? an hour to encode the titles seems a long time as well (2gig Athlon XP with 1 Gig of DDR-Ram)

[Observer]

This is probably very simple for you but I post it anyway. I guess that the new bitrate for a segment, based on the original bitrate distribution could be calculated as:

NewSegBit=(TotTime*AvgBitr)/sum(SegTime*OrigSegBitr)*OrigSegBitr

where

NewSegBit = The new bitrate for a certain segment
TotTime = The total time (length) of all segments
AvgBitr = The average bitrate that is needed to fill a DVD-R
SegTime = The time (length) of segment i
OrigSegBitr = The original bitrate of segment i

Regards,
O

[jhmac]

I ran a test with the following setup:

- DVD Rebuilder 0.27
- CCE Basic 2.67.01.19
- Matchstick Men NTSC 1:1 nothing stripped.

All went fine until I played it in my Settop box, there is a small split second pause in the audio when it changes chapters. Any one have this problem? I have used big3 for some time now and never had this problem. I have done this movie 3 times and all with the same end result. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks JHMac

[fagankev]

dvdrb v0.27
eclcce v1.8
cce v2.66

error code 6, during the rebuild phase.
movie was pal version of love actually

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Top_Cat
ooops spoke to soon!
Well that problem is resolved the next problem that I have encountered is that everything seems to work fine when I press ENCODE (took 1 hour to encode) but it did not encode the main TV episodes just the menus!

I pressed REMERGE and it said that there are no files, and that I needed to PROCESS and ENCODE! I checked the created VIDEO_TS folder and it is only 65MB with just the menu files created.

Any idea's? was there a box I forgot to tick or something? an hour to encode the titles seems a long time as well (2gig Athlon XP with 1 Gig of DDR-Ram) Since DVD-RB doesn't recode menus that is unlikely. Did it tell you it was encoding in the status window? Did is say it was finished after an hour? There has to be a misconfiguration somewhere...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jhmac
I ran a test with the following setup:

- DVD Rebuilder 0.27
- CCE Basic 2.67.01.19
- Matchstick Men NTSC 1:1 nothing stripped.

All went fine until I played it in my Settop box, there is a small split second pause in the audio when it changes chapters. Any one have this problem? I have used big3 for some time now and never had this problem. I have done this movie 3 times and all with the same end result. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks JHMac Could you do me a favor? After running DVD-RB, use IFOEDIT's VOB Extras to rebuild the VTSs (see earler posts on that subject). If that fixes the audio issue I may be able to find a fix...

[chadp1a]

@jdobbs

Have you had a chance to figure out what is causing the runtime error 6 overflow error in version .27

This error was not present in your .26 build.

Thanks

[nimbles]

Hi, my first post to congratualte you on this great tool- i'm newb and have always been scared off from using CCE based methods partly cos i just couldn't get my head around all the steps i had to do and the cost involved in the big 3 method.

just used v0.27 and the quality is far better than the dvdshrink/ic8 methods i usually use.

thanks very much jdobbs :thanks:

I have a few questions that i hope you'd be able to help with:
1) I did Donnie Brasco (pal r2) using CCE SP2.67.023 the orginal file size is a little over 7.5 GB, and using 5 pass with a qunatizer of 24 (out of 64) I got a file size around 4.28GB. Quality is great, but iwas just wondering if there is a way of upping the space used to almost fill the disc?
2) I'm not really sure of the effect of the quality_prec (think there's a typo there :D) & vbr bias settings- could you please explain to me what it does- (is it the same as in say xvid quantizer encoding where the lower the number the higher the quality?)

[Stive]

Tools and DVD:
DVDRBv26 (Default settings except, dynamic, 4passes, and one-click)
1.7ecl
2.54avi
2.50CCE (default settings)
AMD CPU
WinXP Pro
LOTRings2 (full dvd backup)

The process was smooth...no errors. However, I am experiencing the chapter studder on regular play through and if I fast forward to the chapter and back it up just a bit. Right now, I am running it through ifoedit with the particular settings noted based on a previous post to see if it will take it out. According to a previous post, only the following should be checked: "correct vob unit navpack...", "adjust vob unit pointer", and "adjust aduio/subp" (on ifoeditv96). I had tried a movie only on the DVD by stripping it with DVDShrink (no compression), DVDRB26, and ifoedit. But, that did not take out the studder. I'll report back with the result later tonight.

[nwg]

I did Back to the Future (inc stills) just fine with 025 with Rejig. I decided to do it again with 027 and its fails during build with a runtime error 6.

[anomiERIC]

Originally posted by chadp1a
Also getting the overflow error#0004 during rebuilding
using......
DVD-RB V.27
CCE 2.67 trial
OS WinXp
This error did not occur with the .26 version.

I have this same problem but can't find .26 to download since people say this version works. Is there a place to get the older versions?

I'm using XP SP1 (Build 2600.xpsp2.030422-1633 : SP1)
DVD-RB .27 (never used .26 before .27 was out)
CCE SP 2.67.00.023
ECLCCE 1.8 and tried the 1.7b version also.
I get the same with both, and ive tried every combination of the YUV, AddAudio, and ResampleAudio options. All alone, two of the three, and all three with both versions of ECLCCE. It finished in less than 5 minutes and then I get that error (DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort.) and then (Stop statement encountered). The disc I am trying to encode is the Upright Citizens Brigade Season 01 Disc 01. I can post the files if needed, but it sounds like this has been reported already so I won't until asked.

I am using Avisynth 2.5 that comes with the latest GordianKnot and the MPEG2Dec3dg.dll is the only file in the plugins dir of that. Path pointed to in program, but do I need to have the Add to AVS checked? I have tried with and without and same results, but just wanted to know what it should be. Final Size after it runs from the 6.61 GB vobs is 9.59 MB in the D2VAVS folder and 97.3 MB in the VIDEO_TS folder.

[Stive]

Grrrrrrrr......I have finished the ifoedit and burned the dvd, but still have the studder at chapter points. Any suggestions?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Stive
Grrrrrrrr......I have finished the ifoedit and burned the dvd, but still have the studder at chapter points. Any suggestions? What DVD is it (if you've told me please forgive me -- you only remember your problem, I have to remember them all)? I've burned a sh*t-load (that's a standard engineering unit of measurement) and haven't gotten a stutter yet.

[KungFuCow]

I just finished encoding one and since Ive had problems on my players with stuttering as well, Ill burn it real quick and test it out.

[nwg]

It looks like i can't use 027. :(

I am going to have to go back to 026 as I keep getting runtime error 6 messages during build.

[Stive]

Originally posted by jdobbs
What DVD is it (if you've told me please forgive me -- you only remember your problem, I have to remember them all)? I've burned a sh*t-load (that's a standard engineering unit of measurement) and haven't gotten a stutter yet.

It was Lord of the Rings 2.

[chadp1a]

@jdobbs

After two failed attempts during the rebuild stage using biuld .27, I decided to overwrite just the rebuilder exe with build .26 and everything went perfect. No more of the overflow error while using build .26

using....

CCE 2.67 trial
OS WinXP

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by chadp1a
@jdobbs

After two failed attempts during the rebuild stage using biuld .27, I decided to overwrite just the rebuilder exe with build .26 and everything went perfect. No more of the overflow error while using build .26

using....

CCE 2.67 trial
OS WinXP Just a warning. This doesn't mean there isn't still a problem, it only means it isn't showing... When working on .27 I found that I had left in some test code in .26 that would continue to write to disc past the end of what was listed as the end of a GOP in the final GOP of a chapter -- but the sector number wasn't being updated. If you use .26 successfully and this error happens in .27 I can guarantee you have inaccurate pointers on the DVD.

[nwg]

chadp1a wrote,
After two failed attempts during the rebuild stage using biuld .27, I decided to overwrite just the rebuilder exe with build .26 and everything went perfect. No more of the overflow error while using build .26

I am experiencing the same as well.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by nwg
I am experiencing the same as well. See my answer to chadp1a.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Stive
It was Lord of the Rings 2. Now that is a REAL coincidence... I have that one on my hard drive right now. Is it NTSC? CCE, ReJig, or QuEnc?

[chadp1a]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Just a warning. This doesn't mean there isn't still a problem, it only means it isn't showing... When working on .27 I found that I had left in some test code in .26 that would continue to write to disc past the end of what was listed as the end of a GOP in the final GOP of a chapter -- but the sector number wasn't being updated. If you use .26 successfully and this error happens in .27 I can guarantee you have inaccurate pointers on the DVD.

is there any other info i can provide to you that may help with isolating this overflow error?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by chadp1a
is there any other info i can provide to you that may help with isolating this overflow error? Not really. I already know where it's happening. It's the why that's driving me nuts.

[Stive]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Now that is a REAL coincidence... I have that one on my hard drive right now. Is it NTSC? CCE, ReJig, or QuEnc?

It is NTSC and using CCE2.50 with 1.7ecl.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Stive
It is NTSC and using CCE2.50 with 1.7ecl. It's running with CCE2.50 and ECL 1.7b as I type.

[2COOL]

@jdobbs

I have sort of an interesting workaround for some problem DVDs I had. Keep in mind that I tried this with ones that don't have multi-angles or interleaving. Anyways, I have been frustrated by getting alot of run-time errors, especially #6, afer processing freshly ripped DVDs through DVD-RB. I had a theory that probably the VOBs were messed up so instead of mock-stripping each titleset, I used DVD-Shrink to process the whole DVD at a custom ratio of 99.8%. I just click on root menu in tree-view and set it. I figure with little compression, DVD Shrink would apply minor corrections and at the same time, keeping my quality close to original.

I then processed my DVD-Shrink files through DVD-RB as usual and to my surprise, it completed to end with no errors. I have a higher success rate doing it this way even though it does add to backup time. Hmmmm...

Another observation I have encountered is that I did one DVD that had motion Title menus (not in menu VOBs but movie VOBs), and when DVD-RB had successfully processed it, my menu buttons are non-existent. :eek: Don't know if this has been brought up before but I think DVD-RB can't process these types of VOBs with buttons in them.
Update: Since I had enough room, I replaced my cell that supposed to have buttons in them with my original one using a registered MenuEdit.

If anyone would care to try this method out, let me know if it works or not. Ultimately, at the end, it would be all fixed but for the meantime if you're frustrated with numerous failed attempts with that one problematic DVD...

[Stive]

Originally posted by jdobbs
It's running with CCE2.50 and ECL 1.7b as I type.

I ran DVDRB.26 with default settings except, one-click, 4 pass, english, remove dts, dynamic, and suppress warnings. CCE2.50 was default (don't know if I did make changes that they would stay). Used DVDDecrypter321(?). Oh yes, I used the "dg" file in the plugins and had the box ticked in DVDRB.

[KungFuCow]

After testing "Dude, Where's My Car" R1 on my Liteon and Xbox DVD players, Im not seeing any sort of pixelation, stuttering, etc on chapter changes using .27.

[loosenut]

Originally posted by 2COOL
....I have a higher success rate doing it this way even though it does add to backup time. Hmmmm...
[/B]
Do you mean the workaround doesn't work in all cases?
I'm in R2 country, and subs are a plenty here, so a pass through Shrink beforehand to get rid of them is sometimes mandatory.

And on a subject (tiny bug) that existed in Shrink in the old days: IFOS don't get updated for removed audio streams, so it has to be done manually.(Footnote on the To-Do list?)

[Axlemar]

What causes the overflow error 6 problems? I notice that phase 3 (rebuild) can use anywhere from 200 to 800 megs of memory on my 1 gig machine. Would overflow most likely be caused from memory management problems with the rebuilder or from the encoding process doing something wrong?

[2COOL]

Originally posted by loosenut
Do you mean the workaround doesn't work in all cases?I sort of have to say that as a disclaimer because I don't have a stash of different DVDs for full testing. Even high use programs like DVD Shrink, Instantcopy, CloneDVD, DVD2One, etc... are not perfect and you will have to expect to have some problems with specific DVDs. ;) That's why I put out a request for anyone to give it try for further testing. Also, DVD-RB is still in beta stage.

[RB]

Originally posted by Trahald
top_cat.. this happened to me with 2.67 what the problem i found out to be was i had it set to 2.67 BASIC when i did the PREPARE step. when i changed it to the cce setting to cce 2.66+ it didnt help, but that was because the ecl files were already written for 2.67 basic. all i had to do was make sure 2.66+ was checked and redo the PREPARE step (also make sure add audio and converttoyuy2 is checked in avs options) and it worked fine after that
Well spotted, thanks a bunch, Trahald! I was really pulling my hair out about this one. I should probably put a sanity check on the ECL into EclCCE.

[emistral]

Following a problem I had recently (described in the other thread related to DVD Rebuilder), after preparing the VTSses, I pressed the encode button and this is the error code -I presume displayed- in the progressing gauge
V080000100001002

I have no idea what it means. When I press Encode, in the report window, I have the following messages:
"creating M2v ......"
This window displays lots of these messages and in less than 2s I have Phase II completed
According to my understanding, these messages would be normally displayed after CCE has completed its encoding process

I had the same problem in the previous version
My config now is:
DVD-R 0.28
CCE 2.5
EclCCE 1.8

I have found on the forum that Eclcce 1.8 might be bugged and needed to have its .INI file modified
So I added Debug=1 in the Eclcce ini file as suggested but it does not make any difference
I might try other reencoding tools unless jdobbs has any idea of what's going on
For the time being, after the preparation process, I opened manually CCE and loaded the rebuilder.ecl files
There is also another file named item.ecl
Should I also open it manually with CCE and reencode it ?

The DVD is Whale Rider,PAL version decrypted with the latest DVD Decryptor version.

[petesafool]

@TOP_CAT
My CCE 2.67 actually started encoding with your method but the whole process took under 5mins as I ended up with a load of AVISYNTH error shots for my M2V's.

So I tried something I normally do with the big 3 and all versions of CCE 2.6x: Just don't bother with ADDAUDIO() or RESAMPLE(). And it worked fine.


@RB / JDOBBS
I also ran, unaltered, the AVS's which were giving REBUILDER trouble through BATCHCCEW and they encoded 1st time. Don't know if this is significant or not.

@JDOBBS
I have a request }->
Would it be possible to batch process the M2V files through RESTREAM for example to set BFF before rebuilding? As a PAL user I find most 'jumpy' video issues are solved this way.

CCE never seems to set the BFF flag properly, but there are quiet a lot of M2Vs to do manually using your program so I am having to strip the video from a completed project and then add it back with IFOedit.

[RebelBZ]

This is my first time using DVD-RB & I tried to backup the
Transformers Season 1 R1 dvd.

No problems whatsoever with DVD-RB, however when I previewed the
result in PowerDVD, I'm getting black & white lines in spots where
there is motion. (Combing effect ?)

Is there a setting somewhere in DVD-RB that I missed ?

My setup :

DVD-RB 0.26
CCE Trial 2.67
eclCCE 1.8

Thanks.

[Top_Cat]

Originally posted by petesafool
@TOP_CAT
My CCE 2.67 actually started encoding with your method but the whole process took under 5mins as I ended up with a load of AVISYNTH error shots for my M2V's.

So I tried something I normally do with the big 3 and all versions of CCE 2.6x: Just don't bother with ADDAUDIO() or RESAMPLE(). And it worked fine.



Still can't find out why its not working. I will try unselecting ADDAUDIO and RESAMPLE AUDIO from the AVS options and see if that helps. Will give it a try now and let you know the results.

Thanks

[Top_Cat]

Well I tried what was suggested and that did not help. It went through all the steps like:
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 00
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 01
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 02
- Creating M2V for VTS_01 segment 03
etc...
Total time was approximately 10minutes (maybe I read it wrong before when I thought it was an hour).

Again it has not encoded the film but no error messages were displayed.

Also a a side point it shuts down my PC after it finished. I have ensured the option in CCE is not ticked that says "shut down my computer when finished encoding" Anyone know if there is another tickbox I need to uncheck as it is very annoying to have the PC shut down like that.

Any idea's? I'll give it one last go and if I still have no luck then I think I will go back to Shrink for a while.

Thanks,

[himan2001]

@JDOBBS

Please take a look in this Thread ;-)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73635

Himan

[onesoul]

Hi himan2001, you should post here (too scared by the size of the thread? ;)). That's why the dvd-rb threads exist. I bet you'll get better feedback.

[lrosado]

I tried out this great software but one little hiccup when processing, As it was doing the main movie, I think, it gave me a "runtime error 6". and the process went to a halt

[paulers]

I processed Pokemon 4ever and I got a runtime error 6 "Overflow" during the rebuilding process.

using DVDrb .27 and CCE 2.5

[tf]

I just did "Returner" (PAL, R2) with 0.27, cce 2.50 and eclcce 1.7b. The result was pretty much unusable, and this is the first failure I've ever had with DVD-RB.

All processes complete without errors, and the result plays ok in PowerDVD, but not in any of my standalones. Let me be specific:

It will simply freeze at certain chapter changes. Like from chapter 2 to 3, it will freeze. I then press "BACK" and it will play from chapter 3 ok. But it happens again at chapter 10 to 11, 13 to 14, etc. almost seemingly at random points.

Also, nero still reports the output as being non-dvd compliant, but that hasn't been a problem with previous versions.

I know that this problem sound a lot like the one others have had with older versions, but it puzzles me that 0.27 suddenly gives me this. Wasn't it supposedly fixed by now?

Anyway, I'll do another movie and see if it is just this one that experiences the problem.

-tf

[RB]

New EclCCE 1.8a available:

31/03/2004 v1.8a

- Fixed: Cancel button could not be hidden via command line or INI
option for CCE-SP 2.50/2.62/2.64.

- Fixed: under rare circumstances, CCE unexpectedly closed when
loading or saving ECL.

- Added: Fix for "invisible CCE window" issue with CCE-SP versions
prior to 2.67.00.12 (see CCE-SP HISTORY.TXT).

- Added: sanity check on ECL files to display a reasonable error
message when trying to load an unsupported ECL format (CCE Basic).

- Added: -hideshutdown command line option. Global option to hide the
Shutdown checkbox in progress dialog, press Ctrl-Shift-S to
hide/unhide at any time.
Note this doesn't "fix" the incompatibility with CCE-SP 2.50 when used by DVD-RB, waiting for the fix from jdobbs :)

@Top_Cat:
Try this version. Don't check "Run Encoders minimized" in DVD-RB so you can better see what's going on.

[GooglyBear]

I'm going back to .26 for now.. I too got the '9' overflow bug..
I already made a succesful backup of Pitch Black Unrated using .26, but since it was among my first tests I only used 1 pass or 2 pass.. so since I haven't been getting any trouble lately I re-ran it using .27 with 5 pass and yup, when I woke up I had the error 9.. the bad part is it took well over 24 hours (real world hours, not from beginning to end) for me to encode it using 5 pass on my strongest system, lol

I kicked it off at 10 am when I went to sleep at midnight it was still at 75% :P

I think I'll wait for .28 or just go back to .26 for now :) since no real major changes happened between .26-.27

..btw to everyone, do you guys have sample files you encode or do you encode full dvd's? My systems take 15+ hours and it drains my spirit to see errors at the end of such long runs.. what do you guys do? Surely you must have some custom small dvd's you encode to test this thing or something..

[tf]

Well a 1-2 pass encode takes about 1½ hour for a movie here, so it's not that big a problem (3ghz p4, cce 2.50). But I usually do 5-6 passes.

-tf

[mikegun]

Originally posted by tf
Well a 1-2 pass encode takes about 1½ hour for a movie here, so it's not that big a problem (3ghz p4, cce 2.50). But I usually do 5-6 passes.

-tf

I remember reading that the quality could suffer doing more than 4 passes ?!?

regards,

mikegun

[robw]

I think I'll wait for .28 or just go back to .26 for now since no real major changes happened between .26-.27

@GooglyBear
read jdobbs caution 6th post on page 28. going back to version .26 may not be such a good idea

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by emistral
Following a problem I had recently (described in the other thread related to DVD Rebuilder), after preparing the VTSses, I pressed the encode button and this is the error code -I presume displayed- in the progressing gauge
V080000100001002

I have no idea what it means. When I press Encode, in the report window, I have the following messages:
"creating M2v ......"
This window displays lots of these messages and in less than 2s I have Phase II completed
According to my understanding, these messages would be normally displayed after CCE has completed its encoding process

I had the same problem in the previous version
My config now is:
DVD-R 0.28
CCE 2.5
EclCCE 1.8

I have found on the forum that Eclcce 1.8 might be bugged and needed to have its .INI file modified
So I added Debug=1 in the Eclcce ini file as suggested but it does not make any difference
I might try other reencoding tools unless jdobbs has any idea of what's going on
For the time being, after the preparation process, I opened manually CCE and loaded the rebuilder.ecl files
There is also another file named item.ecl
Should I also open it manually with CCE and reencode it ?

The DVD is Whale Rider,PAL version decrypted with the latest DVD Decryptor version. That's not an error code. It is a file name. It's documented somewhere in the 10,000 pages of combines threads on this.

[nwg]

robw wrote,
ready jdobbs caution 6th post on page 28. going back to version .26 may not be such a good idea

I am using 026 just fine. I haven't completed a DVD at all with 027 due to the runtime error 6 on every DVD.

[robw]

jdobbs

it would significantly speed up debugging if we could encode a smaller DVD as an initial test for a release. Your sanity check prevents DVDrb running on small DVDs. Could you set a switch to turn on/off the sanity check (perhaps in the ini file to prevent inadvertent use)?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by himan2001
@JDOBBS

Please take a look in this Thread ;-)

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73635

Himan If I make this method so complicated that people have to get a PhD to use it -- what's the point? I will look at your settings and see what makes sense. But I could spend the rest of my life debating the best CCE settings. It's like religion.

[lrosado]

JDOBBS, what about the runtime error 6 overflow error, what do you think it could be?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by lrosado
JDOBBS, what about the runtime error 6 overflow error, what do you think it could be? I don't have a clue. It would be a lot easier if I could make it happon on my system. I just keep rolling out DVD after DVD and can't repeat most of these errors...

[r6d2]

@jdobbs, at what time do you eat/sleep? :D

You are improving your tool, giving support, hearing suggestions, testing for bugs... Gee, either you have a clone army with you, or you have the gift of ubiquity. :)

[lrosado]

JDOBBS, is there an error log that the program creates or a debug version you can give out to try to get you as much information as you need to pinpoint where the problem lies. The DVD I tried it with was Texas Chainsaw Massacre

[loosenut]

Originally posted by 2COOL


I have sort of an interesting workaround for some problem DVDs I had. Keep in mind that I tried this with ones that don't have multi-angles or interleaving. Anyways, I have been frustrated by getting alot of run-time errors, especially #6, afer processing freshly ripped DVDs through DVD-RB. I had a theory that probably the VOBs were messed up so instead of mock-stripping each titleset, I used DVD-Shrink to process the whole DVD at a custom ratio of 99.8%. I just click on root menu in tree-view and set it. I figure with little compression, DVD Shrink would apply minor corrections and at the same time, keeping my quality close to original.

I confirmed 2COOL's finding!!!!.
Beyond Borders, R1.
Done with RD 0.27, CCE 2.50. Audio stutters on chapter points on standalone.
Took resulted files through DVDShrink at 99.8%, no more audio stutters!!!!
Unfortunately, 1st chapter freezes and goes to second chapter, on a Philips standalone, on both cases (I mean, as usual) :(.

[robw]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I just keep rolling out DVD after DVD and can't repeat most of these errors...

same here

[KungFuCow]

@Loosenut, have you tried running the final output through IFOEdit to see if that cures the problems?

[robw]

Originally posted by jdobbs
If I make this method so complicated that people have to get a PhD to use it -- what's the point? I will look at your settings and see what makes sense. But I could spend the rest of my life debating the best CCE settings. It's like religion.

just a suggestion that I think will be appreciated by a maximum audience. Have a second 'ini' file. Perhaps called CCEprocess.ini - in that file place all the CCE options and let the power user change them if desired. If the ini file is not in the directory, create it. The 'typical' user will not need to go to this file.

[kadilak]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
@Loosenut, have you tried running the final output through IFOEdit to see if that cures the problems?

Forgive my ignorance, but what do you need to do in IfoEdit normally to fix this type of problem?

[loosenut]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
@Loosenut, have you tried running the final output through IFOEdit to see if that cures the problems?

This particular DVD, no, I haven't. I had tried it on "Rundown", even before this post:

Originally posted by Stive
Grrrrrrrr......I have finished the ifoedit and burned the dvd, but still have the studder at chapter points. Any suggestions?

and it didn't work. But I was under "newbie probation" at the time, so I could not post.
Plus, I had all those #0003 and #0004 errors with 0.27, so by the time "Beyond Borders" succeeded in finishing, I also saw 2COOL's posting and gave it a try. And a burn. It's faster anyway.
P.S.
DVDShrink before for #000x errors and DVDShrink after for audio studders.... there MUST be something hidden there to give jdobbs a clue.
@kadilak:
KungFuCow refers to 'mock stripping'the vobs.

[2COOL]

@loosenut

Originally posted by loosenut
I confirmed 2COOL's finding!!!!.
Beyond Borders, R1.Thanks for the feedbacks! :)

@all

If you need to read my post on this matter, it's on page 28. ;)

[Raymongo]

I reported yesterday the runtime '6' error on Disney's dumbo which occoured with version 0.27 now i did the whole process all over again from start. But still the error occours and it does not with V 0.26 but there the #0004 error ocours.

error '6' occours in VTS1 and
error #0004 occours in VTS3

[2COOL]

Originally posted by Raymongo
I reported yesterday the runtime '6' error on Disney's dumbo which occoured with version 0.27 now i did the whole process all over again from start. But still the error occours and it does not with V 0.26 but there the #0004 error ocours.

error '6' occours in VTS1 and
error #0004 occours in VTS3 Raymongo...can you test my workaround post on your problematic DVD? If it works for you, I hope jdobbs can use this feedback on hopefully squashing the error bugs. ;)

[DMagic1]

I thought all problems with chapter points were gone. I made two movies backups, Training Day and Tombstone. These seemed to be perfect.

I saw another persons post about sound skips and pixelation but hadnt seen any of this since it was fixed in v.026.

Today I tested these two movies on my Sony and Pioneer again just to be sure.
I can confirm that the sound skip is there. You have to listen closely. It seems to be a lot worse in some movies compared to others. Tombstones skips were very noticeable, were as Training Day seems to only have it at a few chapters. I also saw some very quick pixelation in Tombstone. Nowhere near the amount that we were seeing before v0.26.

I think the sound problems show most when there is sound at the end of one chapter that continues into the next chapter.
Example:
In Tombstone one of the bad guys is looking off into the distance as the trains whistle starts. The next chapter shows the train with the whistle still blowing. You can hear the skip in the trains whistle as the chapter changes.

[brikin]

My backup that I made with 0.27 and CCE built fine. When I play in on my Sony DVD player there is a little stuttering every so ofthen then when chapter 2 is hit the picture freezes and the timer keeps counting down. When I play the same DVD in my Panasonic DVD player is stutters every so often then stutters on the chapter point but keeps playing. I did 2 passes and used the dynamically assign cell bitrates mode.

[2COOL]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I don't have a clue. It would be a lot easier if I could make it happon on my system. I just keep rolling out DVD after DVD and can't repeat most of these errors... Perhaps, you can give us your system and software specs and hopefully, someone has the same setup as you and has encountered a problematic DVD for you to test on. ;) If you have posted it somewhere, I may have overlooked it. Reading alot of posts can be very tiring, especially in the wee morning hours.

[DMagic1]

Also, in Tombstone the sound goes out of sync, then stops completely in the first chapter then comes back in at the second chapter.

This happens even with PowerDVD. It seems that the sound skip can be heard with PowerDVD also.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by r6d2
@jdobbs, at what time do you eat/sleep? :D

You are improving your tool, giving support, hearing suggestions, testing for bugs... Gee, either you have a clone army with you, or you have the gift of ubiquity. :) I give it my best shot -- but I have to admit I'm getting burned out a little. "ubiquity" -- I love a good vocabulary.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DMagic1
I think the sound problems show most when there is sound at the end of one chapter that continues into the next chapter.
Example:
In Tombstone one of the bad guys is looking off into the distance as the trains whistle starts. The next chapter shows the train with the whistle still blowing. You can hear the skip in the trains whistle as the chapter changes. Now that's a good clue. Do the sound skips only happen at chapter breaks?

[jhmac]

I have only noticed sound skips in chapter points only. Matchstick men has music that plays at most chapter points and you can really notice the skips then... Good luck and we are patently waiting for this fix...

[jdobbs]

Ok -- don't look for me for a while -- I am going to start putting in one DVD after another until I repeat errors 0004 and overflow '6'. If I can repeat it I can fix it.

[kadilak]

Originally posted by jhmac
I have only noticed sound skips in chapter points only. Matchstick men has music that plays at most chapter points and you can really notice the skips then... Good luck and we are patently waiting for this fix...

Yep, I've noticed this with the Matrix Reloaded and School of Rock. Both the sound and picture are skipping when playing through chapter points.

[quantum]

I'm having trouble finding trouble too. I just did Jurassic Park and The Mummy in batch mode. They finished without incident. I thought I remember extras in Mummy having TFF/BFF issues but I couldn't find anything wrong with these on my Pioneer standalone.

[Raymongo]

Originally posted by 2COOL
Raymongo...can you test my workaround post on your problematic DVD? If it works for you, I hope jdobbs can use this feedback on hopefully squashing the error bugs. ;)

Will try now! Report back later.

[tf]

The "skipping" in sound and pic at chapter points started here with my 7th rip, and with 0.27. Actually the first one with these problems even freezed totally at some points.

I have now tried redoing i, and this time it doesn't freeze, but it still skips. Odd, since it didn't do that in earlier version (0.15 - 0.21, before I went to 0.27), but it does now.

-tf

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jhmac
I have only noticed sound skips in chapter points only. Matchstick men has music that plays at most chapter points and you can really notice the skips then... Good luck and we are patently waiting for this fix... Well, I redid LOTR 2 hoping to catch another problem -- and hah! I now have an example of the sound glitch... It only happens on a couple chapters and it is hardly noticable, but it is definitely there...

[robw]

jdobbs

geez! next thing you know you'll claim to be seeing pixelation.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Well, I redid LOTR 2 hoping to catch another problem -- and hah! I now have an example of the sound glitch... It only happens on a couple chapters and it is hardly noticable, but it is definitely there...

Yep, Its easy to miss.

[Stive]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Well, I redid LOTR 2 hoping to catch another problem -- and hah! I now have an example of the sound glitch... It only happens on a couple chapters and it is hardly noticable, but it is definitely there...

I take it that you only experienced a sound glitch and not the stutter that I am experiencing at the chapters. Let me ask a stupid question...I have been a dvdshrink kind of guy for some time. I can't remember when the last time I received an error from Nero when trying to burn a shrunk dvd. However, I do receive errors when I try to strip out movie only with shrink at no compression, then dvdrb the movie...nero said it did not meet dvd compliant(etc,etc) and wanted to know if I wanted to burn anyway. Well, I said all that gooblyguck to say, would there be any value in comparing the shrink/dvdrb output to the plain dvdrb output to see if there is anything in there that is causing the chapter glitch? And if so, I would not have a clue how to do it, but would be more than willing to try if someone would help. Or do I just have a cheap dvd player.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Stive
I take it that you only experienced a sound glitch and not the stutter that I am experiencing at the chapters. Let me ask a stupid question...I have been a dvdshrink kind of guy for some time. I can't remember when the last time I received an error from Nero when trying to burn a shrunk dvd. However, I do receive errors when I try to strip out movie only with shrink at no compression, then dvdrb the movie...nero said it did not meet dvd compliant(etc,etc) and wanted to know if I wanted to burn anyway. Well, I said all that gooblyguck to say, would there be any value in comparing the shrink/dvdrb output to the plain dvdrb output to see if there is anything in there that is causing the chapter glitch? And if so, I would not have a clue how to do it, but would be more than willing to try if someone would help. Or do I just have a cheap dvd player. Have you tried it without the preprocessed stripping? If you throw DVD-RB a curveball it can easily strike out...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by robw
jdobbs

geez! next thing you know you'll claim to be seeing pixelation. No. That part is history. The truth is I had a question anyway about the way I was doing something with audio, and when it seemed to work okay I left it. It should be fairly easy to fix... You'll notice if you do a DOS COMP of a DVD-RB VOB and one that has been run through IFOEDIT that there are differences. I just figured either was ok.

[Stive]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Have you tried it without the preprocessed stripping? If you throw DVD-RB a curveball it can easily strike out...

Yes...Sorry if I did not make my post very clear. I did both (untouched dvdrb and manipulated dvdshrink/dvdrb). I'm really not asking why it doesn't work with shrink. I know you're doing much more than most in developing and answering questions. But what I was trying to say is, I'm not smart enough yet to compare the two outputs (shrunk/dvdrb and untouched dvdrb) to see if something would highlight a chapter stutter, but perhaps someone could tell me how to do it or try it themselves.


Edit: I've done the ifoedit to no avail.

[chadp1a]

@jdobbs

You still haven't experienced the overflow error yet have you?

[jdobbs]

Nope.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Stive
I take it that you only experienced a sound glitch and not the stutter that I am experiencing at the chapters. Let me ask a stupid question...I have been a dvdshrink kind of guy for some time. I can't remember when the last time I received an error from Nero when trying to burn a shrunk dvd. However, I do receive errors when I try to strip out movie only with shrink at no compression, then dvdrb the movie...nero said it did not meet dvd compliant(etc,etc) and wanted to know if I wanted to burn anyway. Well, I said all that gooblyguck to say, would there be any value in comparing the shrink/dvdrb output to the plain dvdrb output to see if there is anything in there that is causing the chapter glitch? And if so, I would not have a clue how to do it, but would be more than willing to try if someone would help. Or do I just have a cheap dvd player. When I finish this product if has to play on every player -- cheap or not. I'm not going to quit until I clean it up.

One thing to note-: It may be the same problem. PC software often syncs off the audio instead of the video -- while it isn't typical, it's possible that a settop player could do that as well. If so, the audio glitch could be the source of your problem as well.

[brikin]

The Nero error is from the .BUP files not matching the .IFO files. I have this same problem.

[Stive]

Originally posted by jdobbs
When I finish this product if has to play on every player -- cheap or not. I'm not going to quit until I clean it up.

You're a good man (person) jdobbs and God bless you for it. I wish I could tell you something to help out. You don't think it would have anything to do with an AMD cpu do you? Probably not, anyway, I would be happy to tell you anything I can about my setup/system if needed.


Saw your edit to my previous post...so if it is out of sync from the audio, I probably should now retry the transcode with v28. I'll give it a go overnight. Thanks for all your had work.

[brikin]

I am having these stutter problems also. Here is some info that may or may not help. I was backing up Jerry Maguire Disc 1 which is only a movie with a 2.0 DD and 5.1 DD soundtracks. I used DVD Stripper to get rid of a few warning screens before running this through DVD Rebuilder. I am using Windows XP with an AMD 2400+ processer and a Asus mother board.

I encoded the movie using CCE 2.66 trial with the latest EclCCE. I also used the mode to use different bit rates for different cells.

Let me know if you need anything else.

[Paced]

I just experienced my very first 'Overflow' '6' error during the rebuilding phase.

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.28
2. Encoder being used: ReJig 0.5e
3. Using eclCCE? N
4. "Run-time '6' Overflow" (or something along those lines) during rebuilding.

The DVD was Minority Report (Disc 1) - PAL.

It's strange that it doesn't occur on the majority of my other DVDs, which turned out flawlessly. Keep up the great work jdobbs.

//Edit

Went back to DVD-RB 0.26, and I did not get the error (couldn't test with 0.27, I've somehow misplaced the file :().

[Stive]

Originally posted by brikin
I am having these stutter problems also. Here is some info that may or may not help. I was backing up Jerry Maguire Disc 1 which is only a movie with a 2.0 DD and 5.1 DD soundtracks. I used DVD Stripper to get rid of a few warning screens before running this through DVD Rebuilder. I am using Windows XP with an AMD 2400+ processer and a Asus mother board.

I encoded the movie using CCE 2.66 trial with the latest EclCCE. I also used the mode to use different bit rates for different cells.

Let me know if you need anything else.

Yikes...two AMD's...two stutters with CCE (mine stuttered with both 2.50 and 2.67 trial).

[wakebrder]

nero said it did not meet dvd compliant(etc,etc) and wanted to know if I wanted to burn anyway.

Try deleting the menu VOB (VIDEO_TS.VOB) Then Get VTS sectors with IFOEdit. I think the reason Nero is rejecting your project is that there is an empty menu VOB in your DVD.

[Stive]

Originally posted by wakebrder
Try deleting the menu VOB (VIDEO_TS.VOB) Then Get VTS sectors with IFOEdit. I think the reason Nero is rejecting your project is that there is an empty menu VOB in your DVD.

Thanks. Will do.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Stive
You're a good man (person) jdobbs and God bless you for it. I wish I could tell you something to help out. You don't think it would have anything to do with an AMD cpu do you? Probably not, anyway, I would be happy to tell you anything I can about my setup/system if needed.


Saw your edit to my previous post...so if it is out of sync from the audio, I probably should now retry the transcode with v28. I'll give it a go overnight. Thanks for all your had work. I don't think you'll see a difference with .28 -- wait for .29

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Stive
Yikes...two AMD's...two stutters with CCE (mine stuttered with both 2.50 and 2.67 trial). Not a chance -- I have an AMD also. Trying to blame the processor would be like trying to say it is related to sunspots and phases of the moon. Of course then I'd be able to fix it by reading a few chicken bones I've thrown on a table...

[Axlemar]

Ever since .25 I have been getting an error 6 overflow during phase 3 (rebuild) that I didn't use to. If I run the same dvd that is giving me errors through dvdshrink at 99.7 quality and then use rebuild, I get no errors at all. Maybe you should look into using some of the corrective processes that dvdshrink uses? Thanks for the great program!

[robw]

Originally posted by Axlemar
Ever since .25 I have been getting an error 6 overflow during phase 3 (rebuild) that I didn't use to. If I run the same dvd that is giving me errors through dvdshrink at 99.7 quality and then use rebuild, I get no errors at all. Maybe you should look into using some of the corrective processes that dvdshrink uses? Thanks for the great program!

This clue has been mentioned before and I just wanted to mention that I have never had the overflow problem either. My workflow is to always run the DVD files through DVDremake where I strip out a few things typically - in this process the navigation stuff is recreated based on what is stripped. So something on the original DVDs is causing a problem.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Axlemar
Ever since .25 I have been getting an error 6 overflow during phase 3 (rebuild) that I didn't use to. If I run the same dvd that is giving me errors through dvdshrink at 99.7 quality and then use rebuild, I get no errors at all. Maybe you should look into using some of the corrective processes that dvdshrink uses? Thanks for the great program! I tried running DVD Shrink on my output to see what happened and it asked me for a non-existent VTS -- so I aborted that idea and went back to coding...

[2COOL]

Originally posted by robw
So something on the original DVDs is causing a problem. Yup! That's what my theory is. We all assume that the ripped files are authored perfectly and in compliance. One scenario is...what if the ripped files were badly in need of correcting sectors due to bad authoring and we processed the files without doing it through DVD-RB immediately? Just wondering since I don't know how DVD-RB's algorithm really works at the start. Doesn't the original IFO and BUPs just get copied over?

[Kakashi Sensei]

well i dont know if this helps i consistantly get the 0004 error on the backup i was doing for 28 days later. i forget where in the rebuild process it occurs but its somewere after the main movie. I think. I will try it again tonight and let you know Jdobbs. I'm not the only one who had a problem w/28 days later. So you have that DVD try it out.

[kadilak]

Originally posted by 2COOL
Yup! That's what my theory is. We all assume that the ripped files are authored perfectly and in compliance. One scenario is...what if the ripped files were badly in need of correcting sectors due to bad authoring and we processed the files without doing it through DVD-RB immediately? Just wondering since I don't know how DVD-RB's algorithm really works at the start. Doesn't the original IFO and BUPs just get copied over?

That being said, wouldn't a good test be for someone to run IfoEdit on the original VOBS and do a mock strip, then run DVD-RB on the supposedly corrected VOBS to see if the same problems appear? IE, the audio/picture stutter?

If no one else gets to this I'll do it tomorrow evening.

[chadp1a]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Nope.

Well, I tried the same title again using .28 but this time I ran the original thru CloneDVD first without any compression hoping that maybe something could be wrong with the regular rip.

During Phase III this time around I receive Error 9 'subscript out of range' instead of the usual Error 6 'Overflow'.

The Error 9 happens before I would normaly receive the Error 6 so I wasn't able experience whether the overflow error would exist.

[2COOL]

@chadp1a

Can you try it again using DVD Shrink? Just wondering if DVD Shrink has a better chance in corrections?

[chadp1a]

Originally posted by 2COOL
@chadp1a

Can you try it again using DVD Shrink? Just wondering if DVD Shrink has a better chance in corrections?


sure.. i'll post result soon

[KungFuCow]

Im actually encoding Bring It On Again for the third time, this time after running it through Shrink with a 99.7% compression ratio so hopefully I'll have an answer on this soon. In it's original form, I got Error #6 both times I encoded it.

What's interesting about this movie is that it also comes out WAY undersized. For the most part, Ive seen the sizing issues resolved yet for some reason, this movie always comes out about 700-900MB too small. The movie is very large on it's own so it does need reencoding, just for some reason, DVD-RB tends to go nuts on it and the size gets hosed.

Interestingly enough, on earlier versions of RB, I did not get Error #6. This just started with .27 on. Maybe I need to fedex this movie to JDobbs for him to play around with since it undersizes AND gives you Error #6.

[ChickenMan]

Originally posted by jdobbs
... I'd be able to fix it by reading a few chicken bones I've thrown on a table...
Ouch, thats gotta hurt :D

cm

[robw]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Im actually encoding Bring It On Again for the third time, this time after running it through Shrink with a 99.7% compression ratio so hopefully I'll have an answer on this soon. In it's original form, I got Error #6 both times I encoded it.

What's interesting about this movie is that it also comes out WAY undersized. For the most part, Ive seen the sizing issues resolved yet for some reason, this movie always comes out about 700-900MB too small. The movie is very large on it's own so it does need reencoding, just for some reason, DVD-RB tends to go nuts on it and the size gets hosed.

Interestingly enough, on earlier versions of RB, I did not get Error #6. This just started with .27 on. Maybe I need to fedex this movie to JDobbs for him to play around with since it undersizes AND gives you Error #6.

great experiment. If it runs this time it should help a lot

[ChickenMan]

On a more serious note, I just got my first error today (been using RB very successfully since 0.15 with no errors or playback issues).

Title: A River Runs Through It - PAL R4(and R2)
CCE 2.50 + Eclcce 1.7b
RB ver 0.27 & 0.28

I'm getting the much reported Run-time error "9" - Subscript out of range error during the Prepare phase. There are 11 VTS's on this DVD (main movie is VTS 4). The error is produced as it starts on VTS 10, which is just one of the many small Trailers on the DVD, this one was for Bagdad Cafe. I ran the whole DVD through DVD Shrink at 99.7% compression and tried again. Same result. Also when I click the Error box OK, it shuts down and so does ReBuilder.

Do I have to wait for 0.29 (or 0.30 ) for this one ?

jdobbs, keep up the good work, this is THE best program to hit the scene in the past 12 months.

Cheers,
cm

[chadp1a]

Originally posted by 2COOL
@chadp1a

Can you try it again using DVD Shrink? Just wondering if DVD Shrink has a better chance in corrections?

Well after using DvdShrink I am back to just the Error 6 - Overflow

It's in the same position of Phase III.

So by using CloneDVD I got two errors and by using Shrink I got one.

:confused:

[2COOL]

Originally posted by ChickenMan
I'm getting the much reported Run-time error "9" - Subscript out of range error during the Prepare phase. There are 11 VTS's on this DVD (main movie is VTS 4). The error is produced as it starts on VTS 10, which is just one of the many small Trailers on the DVD, this one was for Bagdad Cafe. I ran the whole DVD through DVD Shrink at 99.7% compression and tried again. Same result. Also when I click the Error box OK, it shuts down and so does ReBuilder. That's sad to hear. If I had to go with my consistent working results with a few bad apples, using DVD Shrink prior worked on DVDs that errored out in the Rebuild stage. You're the first to report a Prepare stage error with DVD Shrink files. Hmmm...

Why is jdobbs having a very high success rate on the same DVDs some users are having problems with?

[2COOL]

Originally posted by chadp1a
Well after using DvdShrink I am back to just the Error 6 - Overflow

It's in the same position of Phase III.

So by using CloneDVD I got two errors and by using Shrink I got one.

:confused: You got me... :confused: :confused:

Instead of throwing my chicken bones on the table, I'll settle for reading the tarot cards.:p

[Raymongo]

Well After doing disney's dumbo, for the god knows how manyest time, i still get the Run-time error '6'overflow. I did the the workaround 2COOL asked me to do but unfortunatly it didn't work the error appeared at exactly the same point.

Will try now with version 0.28 and pry its gona work;)

[KungFuCow]

Here's one to make you go "hmmmmmmmm"

Bring It On Again, error 6 in .28 even after running the movie through DVD Shrink so I think we can rule out whatever is causing this DVD Shrink fixes.

Now for the kicker, reauthors fine in .26 :)

[nimbles]

ok i'm confused now :confused:

I've been trying to do Gladiator R2 (Dsic 1) for the past 2 days kept getting runtime error 6 when it came to rebuilding the files-

I orginally ran the VIDEO_TS folder through Title set blanker to remove the Dolby and DTS ads. Tried that first and got the run time error (must have been near the end because the VTS_01_0x series was complete, and the other series were all set to 10k by Titlesetblanker).

Then thinking titleset blanker had done something naughty to the file structure- re did it without running titleset blanker. Got the Same run time error 6 at like 90-odd% of the rebuild stage.

Then you released 0.28 and i tried it again (hoping the prob had been sorted) again having run the dvd through titlset blanker.

Once again failed at the rebuild stage.

Every time once it failed i thought the output file size looked about right (~4.31GB) so decided to play it in poweredvd- menus load fine and can access about 50% pf chapters through chapterselection, however picking later chapters sent me back to the menu. And if i used the mouse to drag the slider into the later 1/3 of the filem it would freeze.

Now on the last run time 6 error- i didn't delete it and tried rebuilding the file with 0.26 and guess what? it worked. Thought something was up with that and ran it through Powerdvd again- all chapters in chapter selection go where they're supposed to and slider works properly too. I'm a little worried that Its not ok to do this (start a project in 0.27/0.28 and finish it 0.26?), and also being a n00b i used the one click solution each time it failed, but then just chose rebuild in 0.26.

Haven't yet burned it to dvd to verify the stuttering issue in standalones that some on this thread have mentioned, but did Donie Brasco R2 before hand and it it didn't exhibit that effect when i played it through my xbox- will burn this & report back.

Hope this is helpful- jdobbs if u need any more info i'll try and note down all other things i can from the settings etc.

Thanks again jdobbs for this!!

p.s. is there anyway of upping the out put file size a little? say from 4.31 -> 4.37? I know its only 60mb :sly:

[nwg]

A few of us including me have already gone back to 026 for the same reason.

p.s. is there anyway of upping the out put file size a little? say from 4.31 -> 4.37? I know its only 60mb

That is too much. I get 4.33GB most of the time. Some DVD's may not be able to burn that much. My discs like 4.36GB max.

I would like the ability to choose a custom amount by a simple option box in the settings.

I use 4452MB (4.34GB) in the DVD Shrink program.

[nimbles]

Ok nwg, i take your point- i usually take it up to about 4.36~4.37GB Using Ritek G04 Discs- DVD-r limit is actually 4489 mb- although never taken it to that limit)

Ok took my copy of Donnie brasco to the folks standalone, Panasonic RV31, and i concur with what some of the people here have said to a point- stangely there was no such probs with my xbox. I wouldn't call it really a stutter, but at the chapter changeover there is very short pulse/click (just one) and is only noticeable when a chpater point is inserted in the middle of a continuous scene- there doesn't seem to be any probs when the chapter marks the end of one scene/beginning of the next.

I was too inept to use the big three method so have no method to compare it to.

[wmansir]

I use G04's and almost always burn 4.37GB and I haven't had a problem yet. I have heard of some players that don't like it, but usually it is cheap media.

Anyway, you can adjust the output size, starting with V.24:
- Added ability to adjust target DVD size. I've purposely not made this
easily available so I don't get complaints of 4 hour recodes that don't fit.
To use, just add TargetSectors=nnnn under the [Options] section of the
REBUILDER.INI file. As a reference the default for DVD-RB is 2236400 and the
maximum for a DVD-5 is 2297888. But remember there always should be a little
room left for margin of error.

This was updated in V.28:-Removed "TargetSectors=" value and replaced it with one for each of the three
encoders. Now use one or more of "CCETargetSectors=", "ReJigTargetSectors=", and
"QuEncTargetSectors=" -- please note that "TargetSectors=" will still work, but
any of the encoder specific settings will override it for that encoder.

[nwg]

I can't burn 4.37 to my DVD+ discs. Not everybody has DVD-.

What number would be around 4.35GB for the targetsector option?

[robw]

confirming that I got a buffer overflow error #0004 with version 0.28 during batch processing

[lab-one]

This may be a bit redundant but...

Title: Texas Chainsaw Massacre (2003)

1. DVD-R Version: .28
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? 1.7
4. DVD Decrypter
4. Bug encountered: Error 6 "overflow". Occurred during rebuild phase.

Until now, I have been smooth sailing through most versions. No changes to my setup when running this through. Dropped in the disc and went to bed.

[nimbles]

thanks wmansir- i would assume you do a ratio- to work out what you can put on your dvd+/-r

dvd identifier and dvd decrypter also tell you how many sectors or on a blank disc- put the disc in and open one of them up and the no. of sectors should be on there, in the info.

dvd identifier also tells you what the full capacity of your disc is 4489mb for dvd-r, sorry i can't remember off the top of my head what it is for +r but i do know its slightly lower

[chadp1a]

The overflow error I keep getting starting with version .27 and up always occurs at the same position during the rebuild(phase iii) process.

That location happens to be a layer break.

Here is the AVS file RB creates if it helps at all.

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("G:\TEMP3\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(168997,168997)
ConvertToYUY2()
ResampleAudio(44100)

[RB]

Hmm, that's definitely a still frame cell (single I-Frame). Looks like there still are issues with still images remuxing.

[Oldeman]

Using DVD-RB v.28 with QuEnc v.45 on Runaway Jury give run time error "5" during rebuild of VOBID-3 cellid 1.

I did remove some xtras with DvdReMake.

Same source works ok using Rejig.

The ReJig version looks very good and sized at 4.34Gb.

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:03, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_RB_WORK\D2VAVS\V04A.D2V")
trim(229329,229329)
ConvertToYV12()

[nimbles]

Hmmm.... now i'm getting a runtime 9 error "subscript out of range" on in dvd-rb 0.26 when trying to open up T2 (R2 Pal).

The only thing i can think of different to the other two i've tried is that there 7 vts series as opposed to 4 max with the other two i have tried.

edit: whoops that can't be the case- just tried processing the second disc which has 7 title sets as well and that works. having looked for this error through the thread this error is popping up as soon as i point dvd-rb to the source file which is on the HD (in my case "C:\VIDEO_TS") Everytime i open it thereafter it just chucks out the runtime error 9: subscript out of range. To get dvd rb to laod again i have to edit the source in the .ini file.

anyone lese have this problem?

Thought the decrypter may have crapped out when ripping but it opens in dvd shrink ok....

[Axlemar]

I got the same exact problem that oldeman got on VOBID:03, CELLID:01 after using DvdRemake to remove extras. I used quenc, addaudio(),ConvertToYV12(interlaced=true) and a film threshold of 70%. The DvdRemake didn't give me any errors and i'm using the newest version of both DvdRemake and dvd-rb. This was done on an anime series that I backed up with all versions prior to .28 after running through DvdShrink but this is the first time with DvdRemake.

[Kakashi Sensei]

ok Jdobbs heres my findings in the 28 days later Backup.
Processed w/DVD Decryptor and nothing stripped!!!!!!
dvd-rb: Version 0.28
OS: WinXP Pro
CCE: CCE V 2.66(sp)

the buffer Overflow error #0004 occured during the rebuilding phase at this point:
it was 99% complete of V0600000000 1001.M2V
-Processing VTS 06
-Rebuilding Segment:0 Vobid:1 Cellid:1

I hope that helps it was about 36% through the rebuilding stage.

[RB]

People, please don't process the DVD through anything except DVDDecrypter before sending it through DVD-RB! In this early beta stage, noone can be sure the error is a result of the "butchering".

[chadp1a]

Can anyone please confirm if the overlow error you are experiencing is occuring at a still frame cell during the rebuild(phase iii) process?

[Kakashi Sensei]

Originally posted by chadp1a
Can anyone please confirm if the overlow error you are experiencing is occuring at a still frame cell during the rebuild(phase iii) process?
Just checked it out. That Vob title set VTS 6 is all still frames on 28 days later. Is there a dvd stripping program I can use to remove it and see if it works with out that??

[chadp1a]

Originally posted by Kakashi Sensei
Just checked it out. That Vob title set VTS 6 is all still frames on 28 days later. Is there a dvd stripping program I can use to remove it and see if it works with out that??


ummmm. Maybe try VobBlanker

it's located in the IFO/VOB Editors section here at doom9

[lab-one]

Are there any settings in DVD Decrypter that can cause DVD-RB problems? Just off of the top of my head (I am presently at work and can't check them at present) I know I have "remove PUOP's", "remove Macrovision...", "multi-angle" enabled. Is there a "right" way to set up DVD Decrypter that will provide files that are "pure" to process through DVD-RB.

Maybe a stupid question but I've asked.

[robw]

Originally posted by chadp1a
Can anyone please confirm if the overlow error you are experiencing is occuring at a still frame cell during the rebuild(phase iii) process?

Please explain how to look for that

[lrosado]

I still get the runtime error 6 at the rebuild phase. Same movie, Texas Chainsaw, Directly run only through DVD decrypter, ISO .IMG, first then mount the .IMG thru DeamonTools and straight thru DVDRB. Should I try FILE MODE only?

[JvD]

Originally posted by KungFuCow
Here's one to make you go "hmmmmmmmm"

Bring It On Again, error 6 in .28 even after running the movie through DVD Shrink so I think we can rule out whatever is causing this DVD Shrink fixes.

Now for the kicker, reauthors fine in .26 :)

Im having the same strange phenomena. Why is that? .27 couldnt rebuild but .26 could? Please, explain it to me. Movie: The Bridge Over River Kwai.

PS. Didnt run anything through any other app. Dvddecryper and DVD-RB only tools used. DS.

[lab-one]

@Irosado

I still get the runtime error 6 at the rebuild phase. Same movie, Texas Chainsaw, Directly run only through DVD decrypter, ISO .IMG, first then mount the .IMG thru DeamonTools and straight thru DVDRB. Should I try FILE MODE only?

I received the error 6 and ripped the DVD in file mode. Apparently mounting the image doesn't make a difference.

[chadp1a]

Originally posted by robw
Please explain how to look for that

As soon as I go the error with DVD-RB, I took note of where it occured, then used notepad to view the avs file that RB created for that particular cell in question.

IfoEdit dispalyed a timestamp of 00:00:01.00

Inside the avs you should see trim(xxxxx,yyyyy). xxxxx is the start frame and yyyyy is the end frame.

I am assuming that if the both are the same(meaning start and end) then it's a still frame.

[2COOL]

Just did Rundown (R1), straight after DVD Decrypter. I got an error #6 during rebuild with DVD-RB 0.28. :( I got tagged at V01002900002001. It's a still frame by looking at the trim line.

Here's the AVS
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("C:\B\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(187376,187376)
ConvertToYUY2()
ResampleAudio(44100)

Rebuilded with 0.26 and accomplished success till end, no more error #6. :D

[chadp1a]

Originally posted by 2COOL
Just did Rundown (R1), straight after DVD Decrypter. I got an error #6 during rebuild with DVD-RB 0.28. :( I got tagged at V01002900002001. It's a still frame by looking at the trim line.

Here's the AVS
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("C:\B\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(187376,187376)
ConvertToYUY2()
ResampleAudio(44100)

Rebuilded with 0.26 and accomplished success till end, no more error #6. :D

So it looks like .27 and .28 don't agree well with these still frames. Agree?

[2COOL]

Originally posted by chadp1a
So it looks like .27 and .28 don't agree well with these still frames. Agree? With others claiming it too? I agree along with my experience. I thought the still frame would be a problem also with 0.26 but was proven wrong.

[RB]

Finally got some spare time to test 0.28. The DVD I tested was Monty Python and the Holy Grail (PAL R2) which has also button over video. Main movie is just about 90 minutes and has 105 cells.

The whole process went without a glitch, using CCE-SP 2.67.00.23. Whole disc played fine in WinDVD, the only thing was that the button over video feature (called "killer white rabbit" :D here) didn't work anymore (yes I turned it on in the menu). The white rabbit subs didn't even show up, nor where there any "invisible" buttons that I could activate (used the original disc to note time codes where they show up). Also confirmed by MenuEdit, no buttons anywhere in the rebuilt VOBs. jdobbs, I think you are not transferring the button and highlight layer information from the original NAV packs.

I also had a theory about the audio glitches at chapter breaks that many people where reporting and I think it's confirmed now. I suspect the reason is seq_endcode=1 in the ECL, as a result CCE appends a MPEG sequence end code (0x01B7) to every M2V. I noticed this earlier but thought this flag is dropped during remuxing, but it's not. I demuxed the video M2V from the rebuilt VOBs with vstrip, imported into Scenarist and got the expected "Warning : Number of SequenceEndCode is 105" warning message (105 cells -> 105 sequence end codes). So more precisely, the audio glitches should be there for every cell, not just chapters (well most PGCs have as many chapters as cells). I'm sure some (most ?)standalones have problems with the unexpected end code and produce a small playback discontinuity when skipping over it. There should be exactly one sequence end code at the end of the last cell. Or simply drop it all together. It's not necessary AFAIK, I demuxed the M2V from some commerical DVDs and they always had no end code anywhere.

Also a suggestion about how Rebuilder is checking for the encoders still running. I noticed that during encoding, there was a peak in Rebuilder's CPU usage every few seconds. I suspect it goes into a tight loop every now and then and tries to find some CCE window or something. I don't know what's possible in VB, but here is what I'd be doing: launch the app via either CreateProcess() or ShellExecuteEx() APIs, the latter with the SEE_MASK_NOCLOSEPROCESS flag set. Now you have a process handle (hProcess) to the app you launched. Next use SetTimer() API to attach a timer to your window, 1 sec. timeout would be OK. So you get a WM_TIMER message every 1 sec. in your WndProc. When you get this message, use WaitForSingleObject(hProcess, 0) to check for the app still running. If the return value is WAIT_OBJECT_0, the app exited and you can close the handle via CloseHandle().

Oh and maybe you shouldn't make the DVD-RB window resizable, it doesn't look too well when you do :)

[2COOL]

Originally posted by RB
The whole process went without a glitch, using CCE-SP 2.67.00.23. Whole disc played fine in WinDVD, the only thing was that the button over video feature (called "killer white rabbit" :D here) didn't work anymore (yes I turned it on in the menu). The white rabbit subs didn't even show up, nor where there any "invisible" buttons that I could activate (used the original disc to note time codes where they show up). Also confirmed by MenuEdit, no buttons anywhere in the rebuilt VOBs. jdobbs, I think you are not transferring the button and highlight layer information from the original NAV packs.Similar to what I observed and experienced earlier in a previous post of mine way back on page 28 but fell upon deaf ears. :(

Another observation I have encountered is that I did one DVD that had motion Title menus (not in menu VOBs but movie VOBs), and when DVD-RB had successfully processed it, my menu buttons are non-existent. Don't know if this has been brought up before but I think DVD-RB can't process these types of VOBs with buttons in them.

[caprioles9000]

Wicked tool however i have read this whole thread and no one seems to get the problem that i get :

1. DVD-R Version: 0.27
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
3. Using eclCCE? 1.8a
4. Bug encountered: After it went through phase 1 when i comes to phase to to encode i get the following error pop up:

Trial limitation Error
Cant open ECL file

Any ideas ???

I am trying to back up 24 Season 2 Disc 7 Pal Region 2

[RB]

Originally posted by RB
Finally got some spare time to test 0.28. The DVD I tested was Monty Python and the Holy Grail (PAL R2) which has also button over video. Main movie is just about 90 minutes and has 105 cells.

Forgot one thing:

Your algorithm to decide which VTSes to skip because they are under a certain size seems to include the VTS menu VOBs (VTS_??_0.VOB) in the size calculation. You should leave the menu VOBs out of this (as long as you don't support shrinking the menus of course :) ) because in my particular case, this caused a 200 KB VTS_05_1.VOB to be processed.01.04.2004 16:43 36.864 VTS_05_0.BUP
01.04.2004 16:43 36.864 VTS_05_0.IFO
01.04.2004 16:43 260.245.504 VTS_05_0.VOB
01.04.2004 16:43 296.960 VTS_05_1.VOB

[RB]

Originally posted by caprioles9000
Wicked tool however i have read this whole thread and no one seems to get the problem that i get :

1. DVD-R Version: 0.27
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23
3. Using eclCCE? 1.8a
4. Bug encountered: After it went through phase 1 when i comes to phase to to encode i get the following error pop up:

Trial limitation Error
Cant open ECL file

You did not set up EclCCE correctly and/or did not enter the path to EclCCE.exe in Rebuilder. Run EclCCE at least once, point it at the CCE executable. Then in rebuilder, browse to EclCCE.exe (not cctspt.exe!) for "Path to CCE SP (New)".

[jhmac]

Sounds like eclCCE isn't configured correcctly and your CCE is a trial and it will not open or save ecl files. Just a guess I don't use eclcce I use the CCE Basic. Anyone else have this problem or know how to fix it...


Oooops RB beat me to it...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by 2COOL
With others claiming it too? I agree along with my experience. I thought the still frame would be a problem also with 0.26 but was proven wrong. I would have though so too. I don't have any time available tonight -- but will look at this closely on Friday-Sunday... I've already told the wife I'm dedicating the entire weekend to nothing but programming and drinking coffee.

[jdobbs]

The whole process went without a glitch, using CCE-SP 2.67.00.23. Whole disc played fine in WinDVD, the only thing was that the button over video feature (called "killer white rabbit" here) didn't work anymore (yes I turned it on in the menu). The white rabbit subs didn't even show up, nor where there any "invisible" buttons that I could activate (used the original disc to note time codes where they show up). Also confirmed by MenuEdit, no buttons anywhere in the rebuilt VOBs. jdobbs, I think you are not transferring the button and highlight layer information from the original NAV packs. I definitely am not. This is a "to-do" along with stills and interleaving.

[caprioles9000]

Originally posted by RB
You did not set up EclCCE correctly and/or did not enter the path to EclCCE.exe in Rebuilder. Run EclCCE at least once, point it at the CCE executable. Then in rebuilder, browse to EclCCE.exe (not cctspt.exe!) for "Path to CCE SP (New)".


damn that was a fast reply ...thnx RB ..wicked ....will change it ...looks like that might have been my problem

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Finally got some spare time to test 0.28. The DVD I tested was Monty Python and the Holy Grail (PAL R2) which has also button over video. Main movie is just about 90 minutes and has 105 cells.

The whole process went without a glitch, using CCE-SP 2.67.00.23. Whole disc played fine in WinDVD, the only thing was that the button over video feature (called "killer white rabbit" :D here) didn't work anymore (yes I turned it on in the menu). The white rabbit subs didn't even show up, nor where there any "invisible" buttons that I could activate (used the original disc to note time codes where they show up). Also confirmed by MenuEdit, no buttons anywhere in the rebuilt VOBs. jdobbs, I think you are not transferring the button and highlight layer information from the original NAV packs.

I also had a theory about the audio glitches at chapter breaks that many people where reporting and I think it's confirmed now. I suspect the reason is seq_endcode=1 in the ECL, as a result CCE appends a MPEG sequence end code (0x01B7) to every M2V. I noticed this earlier but thought this flag is dropped during remuxing, but it's not. I demuxed the video M2V from the rebuilt VOBs with vstrip, imported into Scenarist and got the expected "Warning : Number of SequenceEndCode is 105" warning message (105 cells -> 105 sequence end codes). So more precisely, the audio glitches should be there for every cell, not just chapters (well most PGCs have as many chapters as cells). I'm sure some (most ?)standalones have problems with the unexpected end code and produce a small playback discontinuity when skipping over it. There should be exactly one sequence end code at the end of the last cell. Or simply drop it all together. It's not necessary AFAIK, I demuxed the M2V from some commerical DVDs and they always had no end code anywhere.

Also a suggestion about how Rebuilder is checking for the encoders still running. I noticed that during encoding, there was a peak in Rebuilder's CPU usage every few seconds. I suspect it goes into a tight loop every now and then and tries to find some CCE window or something. I don't know what's possible in VB, but here is what I'd be doing: launch the app via either CreateProcess() or ShellExecuteEx() APIs, the latter with the SEE_MASK_NOCLOSEPROCESS flag set. Now you have a process handle (hProcess) to the app you launched. Next use SetTimer() API to attach a timer to your window, 1 sec. timeout would be OK. So you get a WM_TIMER message every 1 sec. in your WndProc. When you get this message, use WaitForSingleObject(hProcess, 0) to check for the app still running. If the return value is WAIT_OBJECT_0, the app exited and you can close the handle via CloseHandle().

Oh and maybe you shouldn't make the DVD-RB window resizable, it doesn't look too well when you do :) RB: Thanks for the input. I'll fix the seq_endcode bug either by changing or stripping. As for the check, right now I get the process handle for CCE and stay in a loop where I release control, sleep for 250ms each time through, and then check to see if the process has terminated.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by 2COOL
Similar to what I observed and experienced earlier in a previous post of mine way back on page 28 but fell upon deaf ears. :( [/B] I thought I'd told everyone that I wasn't supporting button over video yet... but I really don't want to go back through 10,000 pages trying to see if I did...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Forgot one thing:

Your algorithm to decide which VTSes to skip because they are under a certain size seems to include the VTS menu VOBs (VTS_??_0.VOB) in the size calculation. You should leave the menu VOBs out of this (as long as you don't support shrinking the menus of course :) ) because in my particular case, this caused a 200 KB VTS_05_1.VOB to be processed.01.04.2004 16:43 36.864 VTS_05_0.BUP
01.04.2004 16:43 36.864 VTS_05_0.IFO
01.04.2004 16:43 260.245.504 VTS_05_0.VOB
01.04.2004 16:43 296.960 VTS_05_1.VOB I don't redo menus right now.

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I don't redo menus right now.
Yes, I know, but you seem to include them in the VTS size calculation :) So this can cause a very small VOB to be processed that you would normally leave unprocessed, as you can see. The menu VOB is more than 200 megs whereas VTS_05_1.VOB is just 250 KB.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Yes, I know, but you seem to include them in the VTS size calculation :) So this can cause a very small VOB to be processed that you would normally leave unprocessed, as you can see. The menu VOB is more than 200 megs whereas VTS_05_1.VOB is just 250 KB. Oh!!! Sorry, I misunderstood... you are right -- and I really shouldn't do that! There's another one that will be fixed in 0.29!

[DDogg]

build 0.28 Rejig mode -

jdobbs, I have a replicatable Run-time error '9' "subscript out of range" on rebuild. Let me know if you need any of the files, or any other information. I'll keep them for a while.

[2COOL]

@jdobbs

I wanted to redo my Rundown DVD again so in a hurry, I didn't delete my VIDEO_TS folder which still contained previous files in my destination folder. I left home and came back thinking DVD-RB v0.28 would be done since I chose "One click" processing. Now, I didn't get any errors but my usual DVD-RB warning popped up after encoding stage had completed.

All contents of the working VIDEO_TS folder will be erased. Continue?

Now, it's a good thing in way since, at this moment, I really needed to rebuild with v.026 instead because this DVD gave me error #6 with 0.28 earlier. But, it's a bad thing down the road knowing that I have process stoppage since DVD-RB still needs user input to continue with "one click" option selected. Erasing VIDEO_TS folder should be automatic don't you think?

Note 1: Disregard above. Found that I didn't set warning supression on.

Note 2: I had processed this earlier with everything kept and my end size was 4.31 GB. My second time around, with only Spanish and French audio removed by DVD-RB, I got 4.61 GB. First time I had a sizing issue.

Update: By the way, I checked out to see if my audios were removed since I unchecked them in DVD-RB, they weren't. :(. I don't get it. If I keep them, I get 4.31 GB. If i choose to remove them, I get 4.61 GB. :confused: :confused:

[ChickenMan]

Originally posted by ChickenMan
On a more serious note, I just got my first error today (been using RB very successfully since 0.15 with no errors or playback issues).

Title: A River Runs Through It - PAL R4(and R2)
CCE 2.50 + Eclcce 1.7b
RB ver 0.27 & 0.28

I'm getting the much reported Run-time error "9" - Subscript out of range error during the Prepare phase. There are 11 VTS's on this DVD (main movie is VTS 4). The error is produced as it starts on VTS 10, which is just one of the many small Trailers on the DVD, this one was for Bagdad Cafe. I ran the whole DVD through DVD Shrink at 99.7% compression and tried again. Same result. Also when I click the Error box OK, it shuts down and so does ReBuilder.

Do I have to wait for 0.29 (or 0.30 ) for this one ?

jdobbs, keep up the good work, this is THE best program to hit the scene in the past 12 months.

Cheers,
cm
Further to this problem, I also tried DVD2One to pre-process but ended up withthe identical error in the same place, ie Runtime error 9 during the Prepare phase. Checking the D2VAVS folder, it appears the VTS 9 is not preccessed, ie processed ...6, 7, 8 and then 10 and errors out. VTS 9 contains another small trialer (the Marx Brothers in black & white).

V08000000001001.AVS
V08000100001002.AVS
(this file contains:-
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:02
#------------------
mpeg2source("J:\TEMP1\D2VAVS\V08A.D2V")
trim(3021,3035)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)
ResampleAudio(44100)

V10000000001001.AVS
(this file contains:-
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------


This is the directory of the original "A River Runs Through It" riped in file mode with DVD Dectypter:-

Directory of J:\A_RIVER_RUNS_THROUGH_IT\VIDEO_TS

02/04/2004 10:35 AM <DIR> .
02/04/2004 10:35 AM <DIR> ..
31/03/2004 07:04 PM 26,624 VIDEO_TS.BUP
31/03/2004 07:04 PM 26,624 VIDEO_TS.IFO
31/03/2004 07:04 PM 157,696 VIDEO_TS.VOB
31/03/2004 07:04 PM 26,624 VTS_01_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:04 PM 26,624 VTS_01_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 141,856,768 VTS_01_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 4,237,312 VTS_01_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 18,432 VTS_02_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 18,432 VTS_02_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 157,696 VTS_02_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 20,293,632 VTS_02_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 18,432 VTS_03_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 18,432 VTS_03_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 157,696 VTS_03_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 12,826,624 VTS_03_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 71,680 VTS_04_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 71,680 VTS_04_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:05 PM 157,696 VTS_04_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:08 PM 1,073,565,696 VTS_04_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:10 PM 1,073,565,696 VTS_04_2.VOB
31/03/2004 07:12 PM 1,073,565,696 VTS_04_3.VOB
31/03/2004 07:14 PM 1,073,565,696 VTS_04_4.VOB
31/03/2004 07:16 PM 1,073,565,696 VTS_04_5.VOB
31/03/2004 07:16 PM 221,325,312 VTS_04_6.VOB
31/03/2004 07:16 PM 22,528 VTS_05_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:16 PM 22,528 VTS_05_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:16 PM 157,696 VTS_05_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:17 PM 422,987,776 VTS_05_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:17 PM 26,624 VTS_06_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:17 PM 26,624 VTS_06_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:17 PM 157,696 VTS_06_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 768,100,352 VTS_06_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 18,432 VTS_07_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 18,432 VTS_07_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 157,696 VTS_07_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 96,065,536 VTS_07_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 18,432 VTS_08_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 18,432 VTS_08_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:19 PM 157,696 VTS_08_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 98,869,248 VTS_08_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 18,432 VTS_09_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 18,432 VTS_09_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 157,696 VTS_09_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 53,454,848 VTS_09_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 18,432 VTS_10_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 18,432 VTS_10_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 157,696 VTS_10_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 63,094,784 VTS_10_1.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 18,432 VTS_11_0.BUP
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 18,432 VTS_11_0.IFO
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 157,696 VTS_11_0.VOB
31/03/2004 07:20 PM 83,734,528 VTS_11_1.VOB
53 File(s) 7,357,016,064 bytes
2 Dir(s) 110,208,577,536 bytes free

Hope this helps, if you need any more info, please let me know.

Cheers,
cm

Edit: Went back to 0.26 and still same error. This shows how VTS 9 is missed.

http://home.iprimus.com.au/laughton/rb-error.gif

cm

[kadilak]

Originally posted by 2COOL
@jdobbs

Now, it's a good thing in way since, at this moment, I really needed to rebuild with v.026 instead because this DVD gave me error #6 with 0.28 earlier. But, it's a bad thing down the road knowing that I have process stoppage since DVD-RB still needs user input to continue with "one click" option selected. Erasing VIDEO_TS folder should be automatic don't you think?

I think if you select "Suppress Warning Prompts" under the Mode menu it will stop doing that.

[2COOL]

@kadilak

Originally posted by kadilak
I think if you select "Suppress Warning Prompts" under the Mode menu it will stop doing that. You're right. Thanks! It wasn't on by default. My bad! I was in hurry so I didn't check it. No loss at this time since I didn't want to rebuild with 0.28 anyways. ;)

[jdobbs]

@RB,

I'm at a loss to explain this one. I tried to create an ECL that would work with 1.8 -- but I just can't do it... It matches everything in the original exactly. I even do a DOS compare and it says the files match. But if I try and drag-and-drop the one I created into CCE v2.50 -- if gives that same error.

If I didn't see it myself, I wouldn't believe it.

I'm going to bed, my eyes have to be deceiving me.

[onesoul]

Originally posted by RB
Finally got some spare time to test 0.28. The DVD I tested was Monty Python and the Holy Grail (PAL R2) which has also button over video. Main movie is just about 90 minutes and has 105 cells.

The whole process went without a glitch, using CCE-SP 2.67.00.23. Whole disc played fine in WinDVD, the only thing was that the button over video feature (called "killer white rabbit" :D here)... So you know this rabbit then :D

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
@RB,

I'm at a loss to explain this one. I tried to create an ECL that would work with 1.8 -- but I just can't do it... It matches everything in the original exactly. I even do a DOS compare and it says the files match. But if I try and drag-and-drop the one I created into CCE v2.50 -- if gives that same error.

If I didn't see it myself, I wouldn't believe it.
OK, I think you have much more important things to do than to work around this CCE ballerina :) I'll release EclCCE 1.8b and go back to the old way of loading the ECL into CCE-SP 2.50 there, no big deal. But out of interest, please email me or upload that ECL you created somewhere (we've exchanged email once before, you probably still have my address, otherwise please PM me).

Thanks for all the hard work, jdobbs! Truly amazing. I also have to say that this test I ran (with dynamically allocated bitrate option enabled) convinced me that this produces quality equal to an encode of the whole PGC in one big piece.

@onesoul:
Yeah, where is my holy hand grenade :D ? God, I love these movies!

[winny]

I have an error message I don't believe has been posted previously.

The source is a PAL disk.
DVD-RB 0.28
Quenc 4.51
Dynamically assigned bitrates

The prepare and encode stages worked fine, however I got an error during the rebuild phase at 93.4%.

It got as far as segment 63, vobid:3, cellid:13, updating navpacks:-

"Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer"

(Nice message JDobbs :) )

I also tried redoing the whole process with CCE and got the same message at the same stage.

Has anyone else seen this before?

[tf]

I did Battle Royale II with 0.28 and got freezes/skipping at every chapter. So I installed 0.21 and Rebuild with that instead. And hey presto, it now worked perfectly (well apart from the missing Closed Captions, but that's another story). The problem is also apparent in 0.27.

-tf

[Msc_Alex]

Did 3 dvds went great ! !:D

DVDRB 0.28 (also 0.27 0.26 0.24)
CCE 2.50 + Eclcce 1.7b

Hit my fist trouble maker 3 days ago
PAL
Rules of Engagement CE

One click mode gave the "Runtime error 9" right at the start of the Prepare phase.

tried: dvd2one movie only and no compression

gave the "Runtime error 9" right at the start of the Prepare phase

tried: dotif4u to demux files (everything went ok)
rebuild (no compression ) with Maestro (subs couldn't be loaded?) (subrip->stl could)

gave the "Runtime error 9" right at the start of the Prepare phase.

Tried: removed audio tracks and trimmed the start and end of the movie to ~150MB (5 minutes)
(had to add additional vobs to prevent the dvd is smaller than dvd5 warning)

gave the "Runtime error 9" right at the start of the Prepare phase.

Funny thing is the m2v file shows as :
interlaced, bottom field first (bitrateviewer and dif4u)
This is the first dvd I have seen to have this, normally only DV material ?
Tried restream and checked top field fist flag rebuild:

gave the "Runtime error 9" right at the start of the Prepare phase.

still looking for the cause
:)

[RB]

Originally posted by RB
OK, I think you have much more important things to do than to work around this CCE ballerina :) I'll release EclCCE 1.8b and go back to the old way of loading the ECL into CCE-SP 2.50 there, no big deal.
OK, EclCCE 1.8b (http://home.t-online.de/home/340044300675/eclcce.zip) released, this should put CCE 2.50 back into the game.02/04/2004 v1.8b

- Fixed: compatibility issue with CCE-SP 2.50/2.62/2.64, jdobbs's
DVD-Rebuilder and command line ECL loading. No more AVIFileOpen
errors with DVD-Rebuilder generated ECLs for CCE-SP 2.50.

- Some internal code cleaning and small fixes.

[manolito]

Thanks very much RB, now I can stop hunting for older versions of EclCCE.

[nwg]

I can confirm that eclCCE 1.8 works fine with CCE 2.50.

[issa]

Hello,

I got "Run-time error: 6 Overflow" after I choose "Source Path".

I had tried three different DVDs; I got same error message.

I am using windows XP and DVD-RB V0.28

[Stive]

Originally posted by tf
I did Battle Royale II with 0.28 and got freezes/skipping at every chapter. So I installed 0.21 and Rebuild with that instead. And hey presto, it now worked perfectly (well apart from the missing Closed Captions, but that's another story). The problem is also apparent in 0.27.

-tf

I tried this with v26 and rebuild with v21, but still have chapter stutter (already this setup available). :( I'll try the v28/v21 and see if that works for me also. Can't wait to get a good dvd. The ease of this software is fantastic (thanks jdobbs).:D

[Kakashi Sensei]

Originally posted by Kakashi Sensei
Just checked it out. That Vob title set VTS 6 is all still frames on 28 days later. Is there a dvd stripping program I can use to remove it and see if it works with out that??
Ok just did 28 dyas later, Stripped the DVD with DVDStripper/MenuEdit and removed the offending sectors and Presto the dvd worked perfectl y. Thanks Jdobb for the great program. Hope this helps.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by 2COOL
Update: By the way, I checked out to see if my audios were removed since I unchecked them in DVD-RB, they weren't. :(. I don't get it. If I keep them, I get 4.31 GB. If i choose to remove them, I get 4.61 GB. :confused: :confused: [/B] You're the second person to report this happening -- but it doesn't seem to be consistent. Anything else happening when you did this? Did you save a project and then open it on the second try? I'm trying to see what set of circumstances can cause this.

I do know that if you do a "PREPARE" with the items unchecked and then "REBUILD" with them checked it will do exactly what you are reporting.

Thx.

[brikin]

ReBuilder 0.28
CCE 2.66

I am Backing up XMen 2. There are 60 m2v files created in the Encode process. When I rebuild it makes it to the 30'th m2v (V04003000002001.m2v) file I get a

"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error 0004. Process must abort."

error. I see the blue progress bar go all the way across for this file then when I would expect to see the "Updating information for NAVPACKS..." line in the status window I get this error.

In the REBUILDER.INF file it looks like this for this file
[V04003000002001]
SCR=.000
PTS=19270.000

I don't know if this helps.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by winny
I have an error message I don't believe has been posted previously.

The source is a PAL disk.
DVD-RB 0.28
Quenc 4.51
Dynamically assigned bitrates

The prepare and encode stages worked fine, however I got an error during the rebuild phase at 93.4%.

It got as far as segment 63, vobid:3, cellid:13, updating navpacks:-

"Error in UpdateIFO: Shouldn't happen - contact developer"

(Nice message JDobbs :) )

I also tried redoing the whole process with CCE and got the same message at the same stage.

Has anyone else seen this before? This means there is a mismatch between the VOBID/CELLID structure found in the VTSs and that in the IFO. The only way I can see this happening is if an IFO and/or VTS in the source path was changed between the time of "PREPARE" and "REBUILD". The IFO is attempting to reference a VOBID/CELLID that doesn't exist.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by brikin
ReBuilder 0.28
CCE 2.66

I am Backing up XMen 2. There are 60 m2v files created in the Encode process. When I rebuild it makes it to the 30'th m2v (V04003000002001.m2v) file I get a

"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error 0004. Process must abort."

error. I see the blue progress bar go all the way across for this file then when I would expect to see the "Updating information for NAVPACKS..." line in the status window I get this error.

In the REBUILDER.INF file it looks like this for this file
[V04003000002001]
SCR=.000
PTS=19270.000

I don't know if this helps. Could you post the contents of the .AVS for V04003000002001? Thanks.

[2COOL]

In reply to last post on previous page...

Originally posted by jdobbs
You're the second person to report this happening -- but it doesn't seem to be consistent. Anything else happening when you did this?Not that I'm aware of.

Did you save a project and then open it on the second try?No. All I did was start again, selected 2 of 4 audios for removal, selected 4 passes instead of default 2, and did a one click process. I also didn't delete my previous folders but that shouldn't be a problem as they were going to be erased anyways.

My only suggestion is to try it out for yourself. Do first project with no audio stripping and the next with strippings. Don't know if setting different passes will account to size differences but it's your call.

Note: I did both projects preparing and encoding with v.028 and rebuilding with v0.26. ;)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Kakashi Sensei
Ok just did 28 dyas later, Stripped the DVD with DVDStripper/MenuEdit and removed the offending sectors and Presto the dvd worked perfectl y. Thanks Jdobb for the great program. Hope this helps. STILL FRAMES!!! ARGGHHHH I'm working on this very diligently right at this moment. Thanks for the help.

[brikin]

Here is the content of V04003000002001.avs

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO PROJECTS\X2\D2VAVS\V04B.D2V")
trim(81737,84780)
ConvertToYUY2()

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by brikin
Here is the content of V04003000002001.avs

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO PROJECTS\X2\D2VAVS\V04B.D2V")
trim(81737,84780)
ConvertToYUY2() Thanks.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by chadp1a
The overflow error I keep getting starting with version .27 and up always occurs at the same position during the rebuild(phase iii) process.

That location happens to be a layer break.

Here is the AVS file RB creates if it helps at all.

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("G:\TEMP3\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(168997,168997)
ConvertToYUY2()
ResampleAudio(44100) To chadp1a and everyone else who is getting the Runtime '6' error. Can you confirm for me that you are getting it on a still frame that is also the last .AVS in a VTS? That means it is the last in a series of files that starts with a specific VXX name, for example:

...
V01002100002003.AVS
V01002200002004.AVS
V01002300002005.AVS <--- This is the one that causes it
V02000000001001.AVS
V02000100001002.AVS
...

[wmansir]

I received a runtime 6 error on Back to the Future II. The program said it was processing VTS04 vobid 01, however the last vobid of VTS03 was a still cell and the error happened just as it moved to VTS04, so perhaps it was the previous vobid that was causing the error.

EDIT:

PS. The movie (in VTS02) contained a 'complex' subtitle stream. Not button over, but highly animated trivia subs. RB handled these perfectly, which is something VobSub+Scenarist could not do. :)

Not related to this issue, or any issue, just an FYI.

[Paced]

It may just be me, but I think I've found the reason why DVD-RB causes CCE to go 'slower' than it does in DIF4U and/or other cases. It's quite simple actually; the trim(x,x) command - when I disable it, I go from 1.600 to ~1.800 (speed-wise in CCE 2.50). But of course, the trim(x,x) command is needed for DVD-RB to work the way it does, and the slight speed increase doesn't really make a huge difference anyway :)

[2COOL]

Originally posted by jdobbs
To chadp1a and everyone else who is getting the Runtime '6' error. Can you confirm for me that you are getting it on a still frame that is also the last .AVS in a VTS? That means it is the last in a series of files that starts with a specific VXX name, for example:

...
V01002100002003.AVS
V01002200002004.AVS
V01002300002005.AVS <--- This is the one that causes it
V02000000001001.AVS
V02000100001002.AVS
...

Here's my previous post on this matter.

Originally posted by 2COOL
Just did Rundown (R1), straight after DVD Decrypter. I got an error #6 during rebuild with DVD-RB 0.28. :( I got tagged at V01002900002001. It's a still frame by looking at the trim line.

Here's the AVS
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("C:\B\D2VAVS\V01A.D2V")
trim(187376,187376)
ConvertToYUY2()
ResampleAudio(44100)

Rebuilded with 0.26 and accomplished success till end, no more error #6. :D

Here's my inquiry of V01002900002001 from IfoEdit

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [01:44:06.26 / 30 fps] (Programs: 29) (Cells: 30)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:08:56.20 / 30 fps
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] : time: 00:02:32.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 03] [Pg 03] [Cell 03] [V/C Id: 1/ 3] : time: 00:03:01.25 / 30 fps
[Ch 04] [Pg 04] [Cell 04] [V/C Id: 1/ 4] : time: 00:01:55.10 / 30 fps
[Ch 05] [Pg 05] [Cell 05] [V/C Id: 1/ 5] : time: 00:04:19.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 06] [Pg 06] [Cell 06] [V/C Id: 1/ 6] : time: 00:06:07.20 / 30 fps
[Ch 07] [Pg 07] [Cell 07] [V/C Id: 1/ 7] : time: 00:02:21.00 / 30 fps
[Ch 08] [Pg 08] [Cell 08] [V/C Id: 1/ 8] : time: 00:02:39.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 09] [Pg 09] [Cell 09] [V/C Id: 1/ 9] : time: 00:01:49.00 / 30 fps
[Ch 10] [Pg 10] [Cell 10] [V/C Id: 1/10] : time: 00:02:43.05 / 30 fps
[Ch 11] [Pg 11] [Cell 11] [V/C Id: 1/11] : time: 00:02:18.00 / 30 fps
[Ch 12] [Pg 12] [Cell 12] [V/C Id: 1/12] : time: 00:03:28.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 13] [Pg 13] [Cell 13] [V/C Id: 1/13] : time: 00:06:17.16 / 30 fps
[Ch 14] [Pg 14] [Cell 14] [V/C Id: 1/14] : time: 00:03:31.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 15] [Pg 15] [Cell 15] [V/C Id: 1/15] : time: 00:02:16.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 16] [Pg 16] [Cell 16] [V/C Id: 1/16] : time: 00:04:19.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 17] [Pg 17] [Cell 17] [V/C Id: 1/17] : time: 00:06:46.27 / 30 fps
[Ch 18] [Pg 18] [Cell 18] [V/C Id: 1/18] : time: 00:03:42.27 / 30 fps
[Ch 19] [Pg 19] [Cell 19] [V/C Id: 1/19] : time: 00:01:22.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 20] [Pg 20] [Cell 20] [V/C Id: 1/20] : time: 00:04:08.11 / 30 fps
[Ch 21] [Pg 21] [Cell 21] [V/C Id: 1/21] : time: 00:01:30.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 22] [Pg 22] [Cell 22] [V/C Id: 1/22] : time: 00:01:47.01 / 30 fps
[Cell 23] [V/C Id: 1/23] : time: 00:03:44.29 / 30 fps
[Ch 23] [Pg 23] [Cell 24] [V/C Id: 1/24] : time: 00:05:22.04 / 30 fps
[Ch 24] [Pg 24] [Cell 25] [V/C Id: 1/25] : time: 00:03:07.26 / 30 fps
[Ch 25] [Pg 25] [Cell 26] [V/C Id: 1/26] : time: 00:02:31.10 / 30 fps
[Ch 26] [Pg 26] [Cell 27] [V/C Id: 1/27] : time: 00:02:59.15 / 30 fps
[Ch 27] [Pg 27] [Cell 28] [V/C Id: 1/28] : time: 00:01:30.00 / 30 fps
[Ch 28] [Pg 28] [Cell 29] [V/C Id: 1/29] : time: 00:06:54.05 / 30 fps
[Ch 29] [Pg 29] [Cell 30] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] Layer Br.: time: 00:00:01.00 / 30 fps

[zeus163]

I've been following this thread for quite some time, but haven't had a chance to try DVD Rebuilder yet. I tried it today and it was great. I started Nowhere In Africa (region 1) around 4 and had burnt the DVD by 9 using 3 pass in CCE! Wow!

The picture and quality look great, but I've noticed pixelations during chapter transitions (I wouldn't know these are where the chapters are if the video didn't pixelate for a brief, and I mean very brief second). I had read about this earlier and went back to check what Kungfucow and Jdobbs had discussed and I thought it had been fixed. Did I miss a setting? I've pretty much left everything at default except for the settings I need to change (where ECL is and where my mpeg2dec file is located. Do I need to run the files through Ifoedit?
I was using the latest beta .28. Unfortunately, I cannot try this again until after we get back from spring break! But if anybody has some ideas, I'm all ears.

Even though I have this slight hicup, I'd like to send Jdobbs a huge Kudos! Thanks!

[chadp1a]

Originally posted by jdobbs
To chadp1a and everyone else who is getting the Runtime '6' error. Can you confirm for me that you are getting it on a still frame that is also the last .AVS in a VTS? That means it is the last in a series of files that starts with a specific VXX name, for example:

...
V01002100002003.AVS
V01002200002004.AVS
V01002300002005.AVS <--- This is the one that causes it
V02000000001001.AVS
V02000100001002.AVS
...


yes jdobbs

I can confirm that I am getting it on a still frame that is also the last .avs in a vts.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Paced
It may just be me, but I think I've found the reason why DVD-RB causes CCE to go 'slower' than it does in DIF4U and/or other cases. It's quite simple actually; the trim(x,x) command - when I disable it, I go from 1.600 to ~1.800 (speed-wise in CCE 2.50). But of course, the trim(x,x) command is needed for DVD-RB to work the way it does, and the slight speed increase doesn't really make a huge difference anyway :) I run at the same speed either way -- I can't imagine the trim() command having that kind of affect. There has to be more at play.

[jdobbs]

Cool all, thanks for the feedback. I found the runtime error '6' and it will be fixed in Version 0.29 (I will release later today, I'm trying to round up and implement all my "promises")

[jhmac]

Any idea if you've found the audio skip problem also...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jhmac
Any idea if you've found the audio skip problem also... I do know that there was a problem associated with the fact that I had incorrectly set "seq_endcode=1" in CCE's .ECL files and that could theoretically cause the audio skip. That has been fixed in 0.29. But I can't say yet, for sure, whether that fixes it. I should know more before I post it.

[jhmac]

I hope so, that was the only problem I've had with DVD-RB. I don't know why but I haven't had the other errors that most have been having. It could be that I am using CCE Basic, I have noticed that most are using the CCE SP v2.50. Not sure if that makes a difference. Anyway thank you for all your hard work, if the audio prob is fixed then I will be using it as my main back-up software and you will be getting a donation from me in the near future. Thanks!

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
STILL FRAMES!!! ARGGHHHH I'm working on this very diligently right at this moment. Thanks for the help.
Note that still frame cells can be located anywhere, not just at the end of a PGC. Also, it is possible for a cell to consist of multiple still frames, all coded as I-Frames (I I I I...). In this case you'll have to set up CCE accordingly, that is
gop_m=1
gop_nm=1
gop_hdr=1 in the ECL. Maybe it would be just easier for you to demux still frames during the prepare step and remux them as-is?

EDIT: maybe this setup should also be choosen for single-stillframe cells?

[jdobbs]

The problem wasn't caused by the fact that it was a still frame (although I still have issues I'm working with stills) -- it was only when a still was located at the end of VTS, had no audio/subpictures associated with it, and it reset the SCR. It was in a routine I have that scans forward looking for the next non-video sector.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Note that still frame cells can be located anywhere, not just at the end of a PGC. Also, it is possible for a cell to consist of multiple still frames, all coded as I-Frames (I I I I...). In this case you'll have to set up CCE accordingly, that is
gop_m=1
gop_nm=1
gop_hdr=1 in the ECL. Unfortunately the way I work it now setting these parameters would apply them to the entire CELL -- and not all the CELL would have to necessarily be I frames. So my choice is to either (1) break them out into separate .AVS files or (2) demux them and leave them alone. There are a couple reasons why the second choice has issues. This is exactly what I am working on right now. (note: there's no issue with ReJig because it is a transcoder)

[jdobbs]

@RB

Hmmm... I'm trying to think (which in itself is an accomplishment)... Is there ever a time that a cell can have a mixture of I frames (stills) and typical GOPs?


Added later: I don't think I remember ever seeing one...

[RB]

Honestly, I don't know. It should be possible in theory... the question is, is there something in the VOB (NAV pack ?) that uniquely identifies a "still frame", IOW a frame that should be displayed for a certain amount of time or "forever". The latter AFAIK happens when the cell has the "restricted" flag set in the IFO, the user then typically has to press the play/enter key on the remote to skip through the stills.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Honestly, I don't know. It should be possible in theory... the question is, is there something in the VOB (NAV pack ?) that uniquely identifies a "still frame", IOW a frame that should be displayed for a certain amount of time or "forever". The latter AFAIK happens when the cell has the "restricted" flag set in the IFO, the user then typically has to press the play/enter key on the remote to skip through the stills. Yes. The NAVPACK has a VOBU Start and Ending Presentation Time (PTM) on a still you see only one frame, but the end PTM goes out further than a single frame would...

[Trahald]

here is something i'll retype out of dvd demystified --

"There are 3 types of stills -- a pgc still, a cell still, and a vobu still. each has about the same functionality, with the primary difference being the way it is intended to be used and the location where the still information is stored. in all cases , the still occurs at the last PTM of a VOBU. A VOBU stil causes a still at the end of a specific VOBU, a cell still causes a still at the last VOBU of the cell. and a PGC still causes a still at the last VOBU of the PGC. VOBU stills and cell stills occur before the cell command is executed. PGC stills., which can be used in random or shuffle pgcs but not sequential pgcs, occur after cell commands and pgc looping but before the post commands. during a still. the navigation countdown timer and any GPRMs in counter mode continue to count. PGC and cell stills can be held indefinitely or from 1 to 254 seconds. VOBU stills are always indefinite." -- dvd demystified 2nd ed.


hopefully that would be helpful.. i was in a typing mood... :)

[Pedro Gouveia]

@ jdobbs. The BUG with sound skips in chapter points, seems to be related to data missing/changed in LAST AC3-Audio Pack of EVERY Cell.
The lenght of most of these AC3-Audio Packs in RB authored VOBS are smaller than the original ones.

The problem can be fixed by copying the original AC3-Audio Packs from original VOBS to the RB authored ones, and manually correcting the lenght.

[kadilak]

Originally posted by Paced
It may just be me, but I think I've found the reason why DVD-RB causes CCE to go 'slower' than it does in DIF4U and/or other cases. It's quite simple actually; the trim(x,x) command - when I disable it, I go from 1.600 to ~1.800 (speed-wise in CCE 2.50). But of course, the trim(x,x) command is needed for DVD-RB to work the way it does, and the slight speed increase doesn't really make a huge difference anyway :)

There may also be another reason for this. When DVD-RB calls CCE, take a look at task manager on your computer. On mine, DVD-RB is using 25% of the processor, while CCE uses the remaining 75%. This could easily account for the slower speeds.

I'm not sure anyone else has reported this problem but me, so I'd appreciate if someone else would take a look and see if the same thing is happening to them.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
@ jdobbs. The BUG with sound skips in chapter points, seems to be related to data missing/changed in LAST AC3-Audio Pack of EVERY Cell.
The lenght of most of these AC3-Audio Packs in RB authored VOBS are smaller than the original ones.

The problem can be fixed by copying the original AC3-Audio Packs from original VOBS to the RB authored ones, and manually correcting the lenght. Actually I am copying the original AC3 audio packs from the original stream... but if I am missing data, I am obviously doing something wrong at the end of each cell. I'm glad you posted this -- I was thinking about putting 0.29 up, but I'd rather wait until I check this out.

BUT.... if what you are saying is correct then I have been misled -- I thought running the output through IFOEdit was fixing this? There's no way IFOEdit can replace missing audio????

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by kadilak
There may also be another reason for this. When DVD-RB calls CCE, take a look at task manager on your computer. On mine, DVD-RB is using 25% of the processor, while CCE uses the remaining 75%. This could easily account for the slower speeds.

I'm not sure anyone else has reported this problem but me, so I'd appreciate if someone else would take a look and see if the same thing is happening to them. It has to be a configuration on your individual machine -- you probably have CCE set to a lower priority. On my machine CCE is consistently getting 98-99% of the processor while running.

[Msc_Alex]

Runtime error ‘9’ subscript out of range (VTS_01)

Well Jdobbs I have found a way to bypass this error.
Tolled you about the movie that it was Bottom field first and Interlaced.

A wonderful tool called Vobedit :D showed This at the fist I GOP
of VTS_01_1.VOB :

[0032] Extension start code 437 [000001b5]
[0036] Picture Coding Extension 143 255 249 28 0 0 [8f ff f9 1c 00 00 ]
Extension ID-bits: 8
f_code[0][0] (forward horizontal): 143
f_code[0][1] (forward vertical): 15
f_code[1][0] (backward horizontal): 255
f_code[1][1] (backward vertical): 15
intra_DC_precision: 2
picture_structure: 1
picture_structure: Top Field
Top_Field_First: 0
TOP_FIELD_FIRST: 0
frame_pred_frame_dct: 0

Then I made a adjustment comparing with movie that did work

[0032] Extension start code 437 [000001b5]
[0036] Picture Coding Extension 143 255 247 28 0 0 [8f ff f7 1c 00 00 ]
Extension ID-bits: 8
f_code[0][0] (forward horizontal): 143
f_code[0][1] (forward vertical): 15
f_code[1][0] (backward horizontal): 255
f_code[1][1] (backward vertical): 15
intra_DC_precision: 1
picture_structure: 3
picture_structure: Frame picture
Top_Field_First: 0
TOP_FIELD_FIRST: 0

Guess what ? It worked, no more runtime error’9’ (only edit the first GOP)

It gave the error at VTS2 which was also: [8f ff f9 1c 00 00 ]
(This was VTS_02_1.VOB)
After setting this to f7 it went ok :devil:

I had set the ConvertToYUY2(Interlaced=true) option and it came out good.


Well you’re the Master of science here, hope it helps…

(btw: this is the only case in where upper field first had to be set in CCE but i didn't)

Take a break
:cool:

[legomen]

jdobbs,

Any information on how to bypass runtime error #4, or will there be a fix for it in .29?

thanks for the great tool.

[kadilak]

Originally posted by jdobbs
It has to be a configuration on your individual machine -- you probably have CCE set to a lower priority. On my machine CCE is consistently getting 98-99% of the processor while running.

I've set the CCE process to the highest priority possible, and the same thing still happens.

Does it make sense that DVD-RB would be using 25% of the processor anyway? DVD-RB is just waiting on CCE to exit, right?

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Actually I am copying the original AC3 audio packs from the original stream... but if I am missing data, I am obviously doing something wrong at the end of each cell. I'm glad you posted this -- I was thinking about putting 0.29 up, but I'd rather wait until I check this out.

BUT.... if what you are saying is correct then I have been misled -- I thought running the output through IFOEdit was fixing this? There's no way IFOEdit can replace missing audio????
Could this also be related to the sequence end code issue I reported?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Could this also be related to the sequence end code issue I reported? I fixed the seq_endcode so it always equals "0" -- but when I ran LOTR2 (my example of where this happens) it didn't fix it. This is the one remaining bug I'm trying to fix before posting...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by legomen
jdobbs,

Any information on how to bypass runtime error #4, or will there be a fix for it in .29?

thanks for the great tool. I haven't fixed that yet. It is related to stills (different from the previous error), I may not get that fixed until 0.30 -- either that or I'll have to delay posting 0.29 until it is done...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
@ jdobbs. The BUG with sound skips in chapter points, seems to be related to data missing/changed in LAST AC3-Audio Pack of EVERY Cell.
The lenght of most of these AC3-Audio Packs in RB authored VOBS are smaller than the original ones.

The problem can be fixed by copying the original AC3-Audio Packs from original VOBS to the RB authored ones, and manually correcting the lenght. Can you be a little more specific on this one. Does it look like there is data missing from one packet -- or that it looks like a packet is missing? How do you do the comparison, demux? or viewing in VOBEDIT?

Thx.

[Msc_Alex]

@ ChickenMan
could you confirm this :
runtime 9 error
and open you VTS_10_1.VOB file with vobedit
edit the " Picture Coding Extension " of the first I GOP
set it to [8f ff f7 1c 00 00 ]
to solve your runtime 9 error ?

Love this beta testing :p

[hypo20]

@jdobbs

Are you delaying .29???

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by hypo20
@jdobbs

Are you delaying .29??? I still haven't been able to find the audio error... I'm starting to get a little burned out. I may post it as-is and fix the audio in 0.30

[nwg]

I still haven't been able to find the audio error... I'm starting to get a little burned out. I may post it as-is and fix the audio in 0.30

Please do ;)

I want to try it out overnight.

You sound like you need a break for a bit.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I still haven't been able to find the audio error... I'm starting to get a little burned out. I may post it as-is and fix the audio in 0.30 It's posted.

[hypo20]

@jdobbs

You're da man!!!

For you, it is not enough to give to world this HOLY app, but you're doing things, what users want. :)

Hat down before you. I salute you. :D

[Pedro Gouveia]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Can you be a little more specific on this one. Does it look like there is data missing from one packet -- or that it looks like a packet is missing? How do you do the comparison, demux? or viewing in VOBEDIT?

Thx.

I'm back

I've compared/fixed using VOB edit.
The data missing is from last AC3-Audio Pack of each cell

A easy way to test this out is to do a vobedit Demux by cell ID, both RB authored and original VOB, select one cell then goto last AC3-Audio Pack and compare.

[Pedro Gouveia]

There is data missing from AC3-Audiopacks


One example
VOBID3 CELL 4, Same PTS (last AC3-Audio Pack in this Cell)

RB Authored -> Lenght 0473h
Original VOB-> Lenght 062ch

[jdobbs]

This is going to be interesting. I can't for the life of me figure how I could be shortening this... but I obviously am.

[Pedro Gouveia]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Actually I am copying the original AC3 audio packs from the original stream... but if I am missing data, I am obviously doing something wrong at the end of each cell. I'm glad you posted this -- I was thinking about putting 0.29 up, but I'd rather wait until I check this out.

BUT.... if what you are saying is correct then I have been misled -- I thought running the output through IFOEdit was fixing this? There's no way IFOEdit can replace missing audio????

I'm affraid, passing through IFOedit doesn't replace the missing data in the AC3-Audio Packs.

[Pedro Gouveia]

If you want, i can send you a screenshot of both RB and original Cell diferences.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Pedro Gouveia
If you want, i can send you a screenshot of both RB and original Cell diferences. Please do. Either here or in a PM.

Thx.

[DDogg]

From .29b release log
- Changed the AVS option for adding audio to fix the well-known CCE 2.50 and AMD processor bug. JDobbs, nothing like this is being added to the scripts that I can see. Originally posted by RB
... However, funnily enough, it's still advised for CCE 2.66+ because otherwise CCE will continously increase it's memory usage with every VBR pass (not an issue with CCE 2.50!). You can see this in task manager, grabs a new large chunk of memory at the start of every pass and never releases it until you close CCE. This does not happen when there's an audio track in the AVS. You note this is only for CCE 2.5, but as RB mentioned, it is needed in later versions because of the memory problem in multipass. Wouldn't it be better to just put it in all the scripts, no matter what the version? Maybe I missed a subsequent post between you guys on that.

Oh, just to state the obvious, incredible job!

[Paced]

I really hate to bring this up, but DVD-RB doesn't seem to be enabling/disabling various CCE commands properly (progressive, ZigZag, etc.). Here's what's happening for me:

- the DVD is PAL (contains progressive and interlaced streams).

- DVD-RB sets ConvertToYUY2() (interlaced=true isn't enabled) in the AVS scripts for every VTS set (even the interlaced streams).

- DVD-RB sets every AVS file to be encoded as 'Progressive' with 'ZigZag' enabled (again, it does this with the interlaced streams also) in CCE.

Maybe you could check up on this jdobbs (when you have the time of course)?

PS - I'm using CCE 2.50 (if that helps).

//Edit

I tried it once more with "Deinterlace with Decomb" enabled, and it still didn't pick up the interlaced streams (thus FieldDeinterlace() wasn't added into any AVS file).

Originally posted by DDogg
JDobbs, nothing like this is being added to the scripts that I can see.

Same here.

[nwg]

I have just done my first DVD with 029b. The video is stuttering very few seconds.

Is it somehting to do with avisynth scripts. I don't know anything about them but this is the first time I have seen that. I used the default AVS settings.

Is it something to do with interlaced=true command. I was sure it was put in with 029a?

Edit.

I can confirm that 029a puts ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) in the scripts.

[Paced]

Originally posted by nwg


Edit.

I can confirm that 029a puts ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) in the scripts.

It puts them in mine also, but only on some occasions (for example, it did so with my Pirates of the Caribbean, but not with the DVD I described above).

//Edit

Actually, I take that back, in .29b P.O.T.C only had ConverToYUY2() in the script (which is correct, it contains no interlaced video). But I'm still getting the problems I described in the earlier post, I can't seem to make them go away.

[Discoboy]

I have also just done my first project (PAL) with 029b and also am finding the video is stuttering every few seconds throughout all the movie. No stuttering with 028b or before on PAL projects.

[Discoboy]

Small and insignificant, but has anyone noticed that since 029b when you set the application path for “CCE SP 2.50” it displays the path in the “CCE SP (NEW)” window and when you set the path for “ CCE SP (NEW)” is puts it in the “CCE SP 2.50” window?

[Discoboy]

Just notice 029beta got increased to 029b beta and has fixed the CCE application path issues.

Going to now check if 029b beta has fixed the every few seconds stuttering on PAL projects.

[Paced]

These 'stuttering' problems may be related to my posts above - as far as I know, DVD-RB turns on "Progressive" / "ZigZag" no matter what (even if it's an interlaced stream). Although I haven't yet tested it on another DVD (other than the one I used above), I believe this to be the problem.

[nwg]

Going to now check if 029b beta has fixed the every few seconds stuttering on PAL projects.


It hasn't.

[hypo20]

@jdobbs

EclCCE 1.8b
DVD-RB 0.29
AviSynth 2.54

When selecting OPTIONS -> CCE OPTIONS -> SETTINGS following error:
Error 380 - Invalid property value.

Next, when making setup and adding path to CCE SP(NEW) the path is shown in CCE SP(OLD) box. But in REBUILDER.INI the path is set correctly (I mean CCENEW=EclCCE.EXE - I have all progs in one directory)

Can you please look at that??

[Paced]

Originally posted by hypo20
@jdobbs

Next, when making setup and adding path to CCE SP(NEW) the path is shown in CCE SP(OLD) box. But in REBUILDER.INI the path is set correctly (I mean CCENEW=EclCCE.EXE - I have all progs in one directory)

Can you please look at that??

This is fixed in 0.29b

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by hypo20
@jdobbs

EclCCE 1.8b
DVD-RB 0.29
AviSynth 2.54

When selecting OPTIONS -> CCE OPTIONS -> SETTINGS following error:
Error 380 - Invalid property value.

Next, when making setup and adding path to CCE SP(NEW) the path is shown in CCE SP(OLD) box. But in REBUILDER.INI the path is set correctly (I mean CCENEW=EclCCE.EXE - I have all progs in one directory)

Can you please look at that?? Download it again. There have been two bug fixes (29a and 29b) since this version was loaded. One of the .AVS files would be useful too.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Discoboy
Small and insignificant, but has anyone noticed that since 029b when you set the application path for “CCE SP 2.50” it displays the path in the “CCE SP (NEW)” window and when you set the path for “ CCE SP (NEW)” is puts it in the “CCE SP 2.50” window? See the post above this one.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Download it again. There have been two bug fixes (29a and 29b) since this version was loaded.

Sorry. I missed that. It was president voting yesterday and I was looking for results. :D

[jdobbs]

@Pedro Gouveia

Thanks for all the help. I found the little bastard... The buffer flushing routine was occasionally incorrectly putting the stuff-to-end-of-buffer (intended for the last video packet) in the last audio packet. My belief is that it is also the culprit for the stutter some have seen (although I have never actually repeated that) at cell changes.

[hypo20]

@jdobbs

Ok, maybe I'm stupid or tired, but where is ConvertToYV12() option???
I must rewrite it in AVS files, when I want to use QuEnc. :)

[wmansir]

@jdobbs

I was checking out .29 and I noticed in the Rebuilder.INF pulldown was set to =1 even for material that shouldn't need it (frame_rate_code=4). Should it be this way?


[V01002100002001]
SCR=.000
PTS=29707.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=1
Last_Sector=2885224
Reduction=53.4

I'll admit I was planing to monkey around with some manual IVTC, but I wasn't going to bother you if it messed up.

Also, none of the .avs scripts addaudio, even though I have the option set. I used .29b .

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by hypo20
@jdobbs

Ok, maybe I'm stupid or tired, but where is ConvertToYV12() option???
I must rewrite it in AVS files, when I want to use QuEnc. :) It should be added automatically when you use PREPARE for QuEnc... I'll check it out.

I'm doing some final testing on 0.30 and will make another post today. If I find something I'll fix it in that version.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by jdobbs
It should be added automatically when you use PREPARE for QuEnc... I'll check it out.

I'm doing some final testing on 0.30 and will make another post today. If I find something I'll fix it in that version.

Ok. I'm tired or stupid. :) Prepare was done for CCE. :)
But I don't know, when I clicked on it. :(

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by wmansir
@jdobbs

I was checking out .29 and I noticed in the Rebuilder.INF pulldown was set to =1 even for material that shouldn't need it (frame_rate_code=4). Should it be this way?


[V01002100002001]
SCR=.000
PTS=29707.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=1
Last_Sector=2885224
Reduction=53.4

I'll admit I was planing to monkey around with some manual IVTC, but I wasn't going to bother you if it messed up.

Also, none of the .avs scripts addaudio, even though I have the option set. I used .29b . I am GLAD you saw that... I'm looking at it...

Added later: Actually this is right -- the pulldown is set based upon how many RFFs were flagged in the source. This just means that it is probably a mix of telecined and non-telecined, but enough telecined to choose pulldown...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DDogg
JDobbs, nothing like this is being added to the scripts that I can see. You note this is only for CCE 2.5, but as RB mentioned, it is needed in later versions because of the memory problem in multipass. Wouldn't it be better to just put it in all the scripts, no matter what the version? Maybe I missed a subsequent post between you guys on that.

Oh, just to state the obvious, incredible job! The AudioDub(BlankClip()) line is added to the script if checked (the default) under Options/AVS regardless of the encoder -- I shouldn't have added the confusing additional text to option...

[Discoboy]

@jdobbs - just left you a donation for this great appl.

Still got major stuttering probs with the latest 029b beta when processing Matrix Revolutions PAL. History:

028beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters

029 beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters
- stuttering every 2 seconds on video

029b beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters
- Stuttering every 2 seconds on video
- Audio out of stink now at the 2 second stutter issue

Do you have any ideas?

[jdobbs]

To any of the PAL experts out there:

Currently I am examining the input stream and if the picture_structure parameter is set to FRAME_PICTURE I am setting the output in CCE to progressive=1 and alternate_scan=0. I've heard that some streams may show as interlaced but have this set -- that seems strange to me, as I have to believe the decoder would get terribly confused -- but since I'm not in PAL-land... Are the settings correct?

It appears that I've wounded the PAL processing in V0.29...

[Discoboy]

Anyone got a link to the PAL friendly 028beta version for me to down again;)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Discoboy
Anyone got a link to the PAL friendly 028beta version for me to down again;) I'll post .30 and fix it if I can get some feedback on the correct settings.

[Paced]

Originally posted by Discoboy
Anyone got a link to the PAL friendly 028beta version for me to down again;)

You might actually want to go back to 0.26 :), .27-8 had re-authoring issues.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by jdobbs
To any of the PAL experts out there:

Currently I am examining the input stream and if the picture_structure parameter is set to FRAME_PICTURE I am setting the output in CCE to progressive=1 and alternate_scan=0. I've heard that some streams may show as interlaced but have this set -- that seems strange to me, as I have to believe the decoder would get terribly confused -- but since I'm not in PAL-land... Are the settings correct?

It appears that I've wounded the PAL processing in V0.29...

I think yes. Got DVD with progresive frames and streams are shown as interlaced. everything is ok to me.

[Discoboy]

Ready and waiting to test 0.30 beta and give feedback;)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by hypo20
I think yes. Got DVD with progresive frames and streams are shown as interlaced. everything is ok to me. So a PAL DVD with progressive frames is working ok?

[Paced]

Originally posted by jdobbs
So a PAL DVD with progressive frames is working ok?

A PAL DVD with progressive streams is fine; your settings are correct (progressive=1, alternate_scan=0). But I can't say the same for a PAL DVD with (truly) interlaced streams.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Paced
A PAL DVD with progressive streams is fine; your settings are correct (progressive=1, alternate_scan=0). But I can't say the same for a PAL DVD with (truly) interlaced streams. Are you saying it is wrong for interlaced, or that you haven't tested it? If there is a problem I want to fix this right away.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by jdobbs
So a PAL DVD with progressive frames is working ok?

To me it is working flawlessly. :D

[Paced]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Are you saying it is wrong for interlaced, or that you haven't tested it? If there is a problem I want to fix this right away.

Have you read a few posts up? (p. 38) I posted a possible issue with DVD-RB, where it gives an interlaced stream the same settings it gives a progressive stream (progressive=1/alternate_scan=0). It is occurring everytime I prepare this DVD (the right settings for an interlaced PAL stream = progressive=0/alternate_scan=1/top_first=0).

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Discoboy
@jdobbs - just left you a donation for this great appl.

Still got major stuttering probs with the latest 029b beta when processing Matrix Revolutions PAL. History:

028beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters

029 beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters
- stuttering every 2 seconds on video

029b beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters
- Stuttering every 2 seconds on video
- Audio out of stink now at the 2 second stutter issue

Do you have any ideas? Can you post the contents of the REBUILDER.INF file for a few of the segments? I need to see what is the issue on this one.

[Paced]

Edit, mistake.

[Discoboy]

As requested:

[Status]
mode=1
Progress=2
CCEType=1
[V01000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=4826.000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=5625
Last_Sector=85685
Reduction=82.9
[V01000100001002]
SCR=20248283.427
PTS=20254826.000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=5211
Last_Sector=157440
Reduction=82.9
[V01000200001003]
SCR=39005622.857
PTS=39014426.000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=3999
Last_Sector=215878
Reduction=82.9
[V01000300001004]
SCR=53403355.427
PTS=53410826.000

[jdobbs]

[V01000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=4826.000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=5625
Last_Sector=85685
Reduction=82.9Pulldown on a PAL (Frame_Rate_Code=3) stream????

Looking at this I'm seeing the structure as PROGRESSIVE (3=FRAME_PICTURE)

[Discoboy]

@jdobbs - any ideas as to why PULLDOWN is being turned ON on my PAL project?

[Stive]

FYI. Above comments were PAl so just to let you know, I completed NTSC LOTRings 2 with 29b and have the chapter stutter also. Can't verify the sound sync/stutter as I must have clicked off all the sound.:( According to your posts above, it looks like you have a fix to implement in v30. Great news.

Edit: CCE2.5 and elc1.7

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
To any of the PAL experts out there:

Currently I am examining the input stream and if the picture_structure parameter is set to FRAME_PICTURE I am setting the output in CCE to progressive=1 and alternate_scan=0.
Not good :) FRAME_PICTURE can still be interlaced. Actually field picture streams are rarely seen on PAL DVDs. You must examine the progressive_frame flag and only if that is set to 1 you can be sure it's actually progressive.

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Pulldown on a PAL (Frame_Rate_Code=3) stream????

Looking at this I'm seeing the structure as PROGRESSIVE (3=FRAME_PICTURE)
Actually, it might happen... I recently backed up "Once upon a Time in Mexico" PAL R2 German (not using DVD-RB) and noticed that at the end of the D2V for some of the trailers on this disc, the pattern suddenly jumped from the typical PAL "2 2 2 2 2..." to a typical NTSC telecine pattern "0 3 2 1 0 3 2 1..." But that was only for the last probably 30-50 frames.

I think this is an authoring error and not much you could do about it, just never force film or run pulldown for PAL.

[wmansir]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I am GLAD you saw that... I'm looking at it...

Added later: Actually this is right -- the pulldown is set based upon how many RFFs were flagged in the source. This just means that it is probably a mix of telecined and non-telecined, but enough telecined to choose pulldown...

That is definitly not the case for this source. The entire VOB set (VTS02) is 98% NTSC and it is 100% NTSC until the very last bit (according to d2v). So there is just a little FILM material in there. I should have posted more of the .INF before, I picked a bad example since it was a still frame. Here is the entire VTS02 set:

[V02000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25257.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=13520
Last_Sector=144933
Reduction=53.4
[V02000100002001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25257.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=29353
Last_Sector=460534
Reduction=53.4
[V02000200003001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25257.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=2859
Last_Sector=490979
Reduction=53.4
[V02000300004001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25257.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=2036
Last_Sector=512340
Reduction=53.4
[V02000400005001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25257.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=2314
Last_Sector=529485
Reduction=53.4
[V02000500006001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25257.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=37179
Last_Sector=931402
Reduction=53.4
[V02000600007001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25257.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=4138
Last_Sector=975291
Reduction=53.4
[V02000700008001]
SCR=.000
PTS=29707.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=1
Last_Sector=975295
Reduction=53.4


All the .avs files for VTS02 are at 29.97fps, and the .ecl uses frame_rate_code=4 for the VTS set. Perhaps I was mistaken, but I assumed the pulldown=1 was used to indicate pulldown to be performed when authoring? Is that incorrect?

[chadp1a]

@jdobbs

I was having problems with interlaced material using version .29b so I just ran Phase I step using version .30 and the avs files created have no reference to decomb. I have checked the menu option to decomb and also set the path to decomb in the setup options for RB.

Here's the AVS

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:03, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("G:\TEMP4\D2VAVS\V02A.D2V")
trim(15450,19544)
ConvertToYUY2()


Here is the section of the rebiulder.inf

[V02000200003001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25257.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=4095
Last_Sector=216954
Reduction=53.7


When loading the VTS in question thru DVD2AVI it flashes interlaced and film back and forth.

Any ideas to my problem?


After posting this I did noticed that pulldown is set to 0 now so will that correct the problem?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Not good :) FRAME_PICTURE can still be interlaced. Actually field picture streams are rarely seen on PAL DVDs. You must examine the progressive_frame flag and only if that is set to 1 you can be sure it's actually progressive. Cool. I just posted 0.30 and fixed the PULLDOWN with PAL bug. I'll make a quick mod to use the progressive flag as the determining factor...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Discoboy
@jdobbs - any ideas as to why PULLDOWN is being turned ON on my PAL project? Yeah, I screwed the pooch. Download 0.30.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by wmansir
That is definitly not the case for this source. The entire VOB set (VTS02) is 98% NTSC and it is 100% NTSC until the very last bit (according to d2v). So there is just a little FILM material in there. I should have posted more of the .INF before, I picked a bad example since it was a still frame. Here is the entire VTS02 set:


All the .avs files for VTS02 are at 29.97fps, and the .ecl uses frame_rate_code=4 for the VTS set. Perhaps I was mistaken, but I assumed the pulldown=1 was used to indicate pulldown to be performed when authoring? Is that incorrect? This should be fixed in 0.30 -- I was using the wrong flag (duh...) to determine pulldown in the rebuild... I must have been a little tired right about then.

[P3gasus]

Just tested dvdrb with a progressive-tagged-interlaced pal source. It's setting correctly it as progressive in ecl files. It setted also the zigzag options while the vobs are tagged as alternate.
Great job jdobbs!

[RB]

Hmm, are you using v0.30? If the source is actually tagged interlaced/alternate, DVD-RB should set up the ECL the same way.

[P3gasus]

@RB

Yes I'm using .30. But as far as I understood, jdobbs was searching an algorithm to find the real nature of pal video. Or maybe I'm missing something and you are right.
Bye

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by P3gasus
Just tested dvdrb with a progressive-tagged-interlaced pal source. It's setting correctly it as progressive in ecl files. It setted also the zigzag options while the vobs are tagged as alternate.
Great job jdobbs! Thanks for the input. If I appear confused... I am.

You are saying that PAL can be interlaced but have the progressive flag set. RB is telling me that there can be a FRAME_PICTURE set when the source is interlaced... You also never (or almost never) get BOTTOM_FIELD or TOP_FIELD when interlaced is being streamed.

So exactly how can you tell if a PAL source is interlaced or progressive? I'm starting to think that NTSC with it's several possible frame rate and pulldown combinations isn't nearly as bad as I once thought!!!

[jdobbs]

Can someone give me some feedback on 0.30 and a PAL interlaced source that is flagged as interlaced?

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
So exactly how can you tell if a PAL source is interlaced or progressive?
The progressive_frame flag is all that counts here for PAL.

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Thanks for the input. If I appear confused... I am.

You are saying that PAL can be interlaced but have the progressive flag set.

By saying "progressive-tagged-interlaced" P3gasus most likely means "the video looks progressive in my software player but BitrateViewer would tell me it's interlaced". P3gasus, right?

Again, there's no such thing as "progressive-tagged-interlaced". It's either encoded as progressive (progressive_frame == 1) or it's not.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
By saying "progressive-tagged-interlaced" P3gasus most likely means "the video looks progressive in my software player but BitrateViewer would tell me it's interlaced". P3gasus, right?

Again, there's no such thing as "progressive-tagged-interlaced". It's either encoded as progressive (progressive_frame == 1) or it's not. Ok. Now, is it common/uncommon for progressive and interlaced to be mixed in a single cell?

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Thanks for the input. If I appear confused... I am.

You are saying that PAL can be interlaced but have the progressive flag set.

I'm saying that the very majority of pal movies are actually PROGRESSIVE but tagged interlaced. So for example "Pirates of the carribean" R2 pal is tagged INTERLACED but it is progressive. The same thing is for TLOTR TFOTR and TLOTR TTT. I'm testing dvdrb with "Qualcosa è cambiato" R2 pal (an american movie, but I don't know the original title). It is actually PROGRESSIVE but (do you figure ??) it is tagged interlaced. DVDRB is detecting it as progressive with zigzag scan. It is tagged as interlaced-alternate. Unfortunately I'm not expert about mpeg2 file fields.


So exactly how can you tell if a PAL source is interlaced or progressive?

I detect progressive sources by using one of the most complex and sophisticated (but free) tool I have. My Eyes :D
I hope this helps

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by RB
By saying "progressive-tagged-interlaced" P3gasus most likely means "the video looks progressive in my software player but BitrateViewer would tell me it's interlaced". P3gasus, right?

You got it


Again, there's no such thing as "progressive-tagged-interlaced". It's either encoded as progressive (progressive_frame == 1) or it's not.

So for example Pirates of the Carribean R2 pal (wich is an example of what I called "progressive-tagged-interlaced") should be re-encoded with progressive checked or not?
Thanks
Bye

[nwg]

I don't know much about progressive and interlaced.

However, I do use DVD2DVDR with CCE. When I do a PAL DVD it always said's that it recommends to set it to progressive(and also said's it applies to 95% of PAL DVD's). I always do and never had a problem.

Is that any help?

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by nwg
I don't know much about progressive and interlaced.

However, I do use DVD2DVDR with CCE. When I do a PAL DVD it always said's that it recommends to set it to progressive(and also said's it applies to 95% of PAL DVD's). I always do and never had a problem.

Is that any help?

That is true. Really-interlaced dvd are not so common in pal lands. With really-interlaced I'm referring to to the titles showing horizontal lines in scene changes when watching to them in a player that does not do deinterlacing.
Bye

[brikin]

Thanks for the updates....

I am still getting my

"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error 0004. Process must abort."

Then I get another window saying

"Stop statement encountered"

error with 0.3.

Thanks again

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by brikin
Thanks for the updates....

I am still getting my

"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error 0004. Process must abort."

Then I get another window saying

"Stop statement encountered"

error with 0.3.

Thanks again Stills... I know I have to fix this.

[Abnormal1]

Hi,
1. DVD-R Version: 0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: Using .30 on Animatrix (PAL) it does not deinterlace VTS2. However when i look at in DVD2AVI it looks Interlaced. Also bitrate viewer says the frame type is Intelaced.

p.s before anyone asks, Yes i do have the deinterlace options set.

p.p.s I was also wondering if you would be able to add the option to use other deinterlacers eg kerneldeint

Abnormal

[Discoboy]

Hi,

DVD-R Version: 0.30
Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
Using eclCCE? Y Ver. 1.8b

Stuttering probs update with the latest 030 beta when processing Matrix Revolutions PAL. History:-

028 beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters

029 beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters
- stuttering every 2 seconds on video

029b beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters
- Stuttering every 2 seconds on video
- Audio out of shink now at the 2 second stutter issue

030 beta
- Very slight stutter / pixilation on the start of some chapters same as in 028 beta

[Abnormal1]

Hi,
Something else I have noticed is that When you set the path to Decomb you have to restart ReBuilder before you can select the Deinterlace with DECOMB option.
Although not really a bug it is still a little annoying

Thanks
Abnormal1

[brikin]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Stills... I know I have to fix this.

I don't know if this is a stills problem. The clip I get this error on is about 2 minutes long and the clip before and after this are 1 to 3 minutes long.

AVS for V04002900001030 Clip before the problem

# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:30
#------------------
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO PROJECTS\X2\D2VAVS\V04B.D2V")
trim(79473,81736)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)

AVS for V04003000003002

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:01
#------------------
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO PROJECTS\X2\D2VAVS\V04B.D2V")
trim(81737,84780)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)

AVS for V04003100002002 clip after the problem

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:02, CELLID:02
#------------------
LoadPlugin("F:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\VIDEO PROJECTS\X2\D2VAVS\V04B.D2V")
trim(84781,90477)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)

[RB]

Originally posted by P3gasus
You got it

So for example Pirates of the Carribean R2 pal (wich is an example of what I called "progressive-tagged-interlaced") should be re-encoded with progressive checked or not?

Maybe "could" is the better word. It will make little, if any, difference in quality when reencoding with Progressive Frame flag off and Alternate scan.

Maybe to avoid further confusion to jdobbs in this matter, it's best to make sure that when using the terms "interlaced" and "progressive", this refers to what BitrateViewer or DVD2AVI report.

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Ok. Now, is it common/uncommon for progressive and interlaced to be mixed in a single cell?
I have seen it (Untolerable Cruelties PAL R2, the main movie is all progressive frames except for 25 frames that are interlaced somewhere). I think it's best to have "progressive threshold", i.e. if more than 90% of the frames in the cell are progressive, encode as progressive.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
I have seen it (Untolerable Cruelties PAL R2, the main movie is all progressive frames except for 25 frames that are interlaced somewhere). I think it's best to have "progressive threshold", i.e. if more than 90% of the frames in the cell are progressive, encode as progressive. I'm changing my code write now to do just that.

[Paced]

Originally posted by P3gasus
That is true. Really-interlaced dvd are not so common in pal lands. With really-interlaced I'm referring to to the titles showing horizontal lines in scene changes when watching to them in a player that does not do deinterlacing.
Bye

100% of my PAL DVDs (R4) have had at least one truly interlaced stream (almost always in the form of an extra). I think people from R4 (I only know dragongodz is from this region) will need to go back to 0.26 temporarily - since DVD-RB .29+ is adding progressive/ZigZag tags for these interlaced streams to be encoded (without 'Deinterlace with DECOMB enabled'). For some reason I'm the only one that is reporting this, I'm pretty sure someone else will come across this sooner or later.

[bohemian]

Originally posted by jdobbs

.....- Changed the AVS option for adding audio to fix the well-known CCE 2.50 and AMD processor bug. Now only one choice is available -- it defaults to ON, so those who use Pentiums may want to disable it. This was added to kill some of the confusion associated with previous choices and the need for a plug-in.....

Enjoy!

Firstly...Thanks for all the hard work you are putting into creating and supporting this software :)

I am using CCE 2.67.0.23 trial, and found I had to use the AddAudio plugin to prevent the memory leak by having this added to each AVS file.
The change you have recently made in the software (Including 0.30) does not add a blank audio clip to the AVS files, so the memory leak has returned.
I have tried selecting/deselecting AudioDub(BlankClip()) with no change to the AVS files.
Thanks for your time.

[kylan]

Using version .30, error #0004 at exactly 35% during the rebuild process of "28 Days Later" is still present.

[nwg]

I managed to do the PAL Matrix Revolutions with 030. I went through chapter at a time and it looked fine. This was stuttering all the time with 029. I am going to watch it now properly to make sure it is ok.

I tried Back to the Future again that fails with QuEnc. I still get runtime error 5 at 97%. It still works with CCE.

Edit.

I didn't know about the DVD-RB 030 bugs thread. Can this be moved?

As I played Matrix Revolutions it stuttered when going from chapter 3 to 4 on a cheap Cyberhome player. I played it in a better Sony player and it plays fine.

[casonbang]

I'm backing up Ocean's Eleven and I'm getting 'Runtime Error 75 Path/File' during the rebuild phase. There's 8 gigs free on the working drive. Nothing stripped from the source. Same error even if I leave French language audio checked.

DVD-RB v0.30, CCE 2.67, eclCCE 1.7b
Source Path: E:\VIDEO_TS\ (a dvd-rom using AnyDVD 3.3.2.1, works fine for RB encoding & all other apps)
Working Path: D:\TEMP\OCEANS11\REBUILDER\

Here's the files processed into my working VIDEO_TS at the time of the error/crash.
Name Ext Size Modified

VIDEO_TS IFO 10,240 Today 4:18:01 AM
VTS_01_0 IFO 90,112 Today 4:18:01 AM
VIDEO_TS BUP 10,240 Today 4:18:01 AM
VTS_02_0 IFO 28,672 Today 4:18:01 AM
VTS_01_0 BUP 90,112 Today 4:18:01 AM
VTS_02_0 BUP 28,672 Today 4:18:01 AM
VTS_01_0 VOB 70,670,336 Today 4:18:06 AM
VTS_02_0 VOB 0 Today 4:18:07 AM

[wmansir]

Originally posted by casonbang
I'm backing up Ocean's Eleven and I'm getting 'Runtime Error 75 Path/File' during the rebuild phase. There's 8 gigs free on the working drive. Nothing stripped from the source. Same error even if I leave French language audio checked.

DVD-RB v0.30, CCE 2.67, eclCCE 1.7b
Source Path: E:\VIDEO_TS\ (a dvd-rom using AnyDVD 3.3.2.1, works fine for RB encoding & all other apps)
Working Path: D:\TEMP\OCEANS11\REBUILDER\



Someone earlier mentioned that RB needs write access to the source directory, so you can't use a mounted virtual drive. Could someone verify/correct this?

[Pedro Gouveia]

Originally posted by jdobbs
@Pedro Gouveia

Thanks for all the help. I found the little bastard... The buffer flushing routine was occasionally incorrectly putting the stuff-to-end-of-buffer (intended for the last video packet) in the last audio packet. My belief is that it is also the culprit for the stutter some have seen (although I have never actually repeated that) at cell changes.

jdobbs. I can confirm you, that the audio problem between chapters is gone. :)

Thank a lot for your hard work.

[disturbed1]

With 0.31, when you chapter skip, you can not rewind to the previous chapter point. It just stops.

As a plus, it did complete the compile process with this build:D Other builds would crash at different points during the compile process (.28 and .30) Ran it through with QuEnc, Rejig and CCE, all completed, but all can't rewind before the chapter stops.

NTSC film.

[FMalibu]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'm changing my code write now to do just that.

Ah, great that the ConvertToYUY2() interlaced parameter now fully depends on the progressive_frame flags, that's the way it should be according to the specifications.

But I hope you do realize that, as stated more than a few times in this thread, most PAL movies actually have progressive_frame == 0 on all frames. If you assume it is interlaced based on this, and the deinterlacing by decomb option is enabled, this means that a lot of PAL movies that are actually progressive by nature will be deinterlaced. Of course the FieldDeinterlace function of decomb has some algorithm to deinterlace only combed sections, but still it eats a lof of CPU cycles.

In short, this is not a reliable way for detecting interlacing, and people just shouldn't use deinterlacing on PAL titles ;)

-- FMalibu

[Joergen]

Yes like Malibu said many pal DVD tend to have progressive looking frames throughout the movie but one or more scenes might be clearly interlaced with visible "combing".. but the entire title is still marked as interlaced.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by FMalibu
Ah, great that the ConvertToYUY2() interlaced parameter now fully depends on the progressive_frame flags, that's the way it should be according to the specifications.

But I hope you do realize that, as stated more than a few times in this thread, most PAL movies actually have progressive_frame == 0 on all frames. If you assume it is interlaced based on this, and the deinterlacing by decomb option is enabled, this means that a lot of PAL movies that are actually progressive by nature will be deinterlaced. Of course the FieldDeinterlace function of decomb has some algorithm to deinterlace only combed sections, but still it eats a lof of CPU cycles.

In short, this is not a reliable way for detecting interlacing, and people just shouldn't use deinterlacing on PAL titles ;)

-- FMalibu I guess the best strategy is to not select the deinterlace option unless you know you need it.

[nwg]

I guess the best strategy is to not select the deinterlace option unless you know you need it

I just do PAL films and have so far never used that option. I just leave DVD-RB on the default settings. I just select the number of passes I want depending on the percentage that is shown at the end of the prepare stage.

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I guess the best strategy is to not select the deinterlace option unless you know you need it.
In my very humble opinion, I would make deinterlacing a very, very advanced, rarely used, tagged with warnings option :) But that's just me. I never deinterlace. IMHO the deinterlacing artifacts don't justify the lower bitrate you could theoretically use.

[FMalibu]

Originally posted by RB
In my very humble opinion, I would make deinterlacing a very, very advanced, rarely used, tagged with warnings option :) But that's just me. I never deinterlace. IMHO the deinterlacing artifacts don't justify the lower bitrate you could theoretically use.

I happen to agree. :)

But then I guess it's all a matter of personal taste. There seem to be quite a lot of people who really like to deinterlace. I suppose a lot of people also have had bad experiences with wrong field orders, but as far as I know it's already doing the detection of this just fine right?

Maybe it would be best to include something of a warning regarding deinterlacing of PAL dvds....

-- FMalibu

[chadp1a]

Forgive me for sounding stupid but let me ask this question.

If I chose not to de-interlace material that is actually interlaced, does it affect how the material will look on the tv?

What I am asking I guess is this.... Will I notice those horizontal lines on the tv? I notice them using powerdvd on the computer when I choose not to de-interlace.

[Joergen]

Your TV flickers, drawing one field (every other line) in one pass, 50 passes per second = 25 full frames or 50 half frames per second (PAL TV of course).

Cam material (DV cam etc) uses all the 50 fields to form frames.. so if you deinterlace cam stuff you'll lose the smoothness of the motion.

These fields can also be used to compensate motion for bad film transfers (cause a GOOD film transfer is 25 progressive frames for PAL) or especially with NTSC material where converting the 24 frames of film to 29.976 is much harder and needs trickery to make the motion smooth on the TV.

But this issue is too complicated to discuss here, look it up on google. Telecine and Telesync might be good words.

[chadp1a]

Originally posted by Joergen
Your TV flickers, drawing one field (every other line) in one pass, 50 passes per second = 25 full frames or 50 half frames per second (PAL TV of course).

Cam material (DV cam etc) uses all the 50 fields to form frames.. so if you deinterlace cam stuff you'll lose the smoothness of the motion.

These fields can also be used to compensate motion for bad film transfers (cause a GOOD film transfer is 25 progressive frames for PAL) or especially with NTSC material where converting the 24 frames of film to 29.976 is much harder and needs trickery to make the motion smooth on the TV.

But this issue is too complicated to discuss here, look it up on google. Telecine and Telesync might be good words.

Thnak you

[smlong426]

I just encoded a movie with 0.31, and there is still a split-second of video stutter at chapter points. It is very visible on my Zenith XBV342 .. not so noticable on my Cyberhome CH-DVD500 ..

[ps2uk]

hi guys when i press the encode button i get this error GdipLoadImageFromFile failed :3

i also had a buffer overflow error #0004

im using CCE Version 2.67.00.23 & DVD ReBuilder 0.31

thx in advance

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by smlong426
I just encoded a movie with 0.31, and there is still a split-second of video stutter at chapter points. It is very visible on my Zenith XBV342 .. not so noticable on my Cyberhome CH-DVD500 .. Since this doesn't happen on any of my DVD players it's hard for me to find. In order to help me chase this down I need to know whether it ever happens outside of a chapter break (for example does it ever happen at any cell points that are not chapters)? I know that may be Greek to a lot of folks, but to those that know what I'm talking about and get this stutter -- please let me know.

Thanks.

[dave88]

I've been getting that too, I don't really notice the sound being out of synch, but about 10 sec or so before some chapter points I get about 1/2 sec of sped up video, kinda like the audio and video is resynching?

I've tried CCE 2.67 and 2.5 with same results
DVDRB .29b

will try newer DVDRB builds soon

[lab-one]

@jdobbs

No, it is only occurring at chapter breaks.

DVDDecrypter (file mode)
DVD-RB .30
-Path to MPEG2DEC3DG set
-Path to DECOMB511.DLL set
-Remove all DTS set
-Autodetect Film
-ConverttoYUY2() set
-Deinterlace with decomb set
-AudioDub(BlankClip()) set
CCE 2.50SP
-VBR Bias 25
-Qualiy Prec 24
-VBR Passes 2
ECLCCE 1.7
ImageToolClassic
DVDDecrypter (write)
Latest back-up: Ripleys Game NTSC
Sony DVPNS725P stand alone
Verbatim DVD+R
AMD Athlon XP 2400+ / 512mb RAM

Is there something you would suggest changing? I can re-run this tonight if you have a suggestion.

Thanks.

[Joergen]

Weird that you have stutters on a sony player while I have none (the PS2 and a DVPNS 430), but I'm in R2.

Could it have something to do with deinterlacing? If the deinterlacer needs to start somewhere further down the cell to form the first full frame (kinda like the overlay of a videocard) and so the first GOP doesnt have enough frames in it, making the player wait for the first full GOP?

Try without all the deinterlacing stuff?

I'm just guessing though, no expert.

[lab-one]

I have no idea. The Sony will play anything I throw at it. Even crappy blanks that were given to me as a gift. I may try it without the deinterlacing enabled when I go to bed.

[ChickenMan]

Maybe it worth trying RB 0.31, others are not reporting the problem with that version.

cm

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by lab-one
@jdobbs

No, it is only occurring at chapter breaks.

DVDDecrypter (file mode)
DVD-RB .30
-Path to MPEG2DEC3DG set
-Path to DECOMB511.DLL set
-Remove all DTS set
-Autodetect Film
-ConverttoYUY2() set
-Deinterlace with decomb set
-AudioDub(BlankClip()) set
CCE 2.50SP
-VBR Bias 25
-Qualiy Prec 24
-VBR Passes 2
ECLCCE 1.7
ImageToolClassic
DVDDecrypter (write)
Latest back-up: Ripleys Game NTSC
Sony DVPNS725P stand alone
Verbatim DVD+R
AMD Athlon XP 2400+ / 512mb RAM

Is there something you would suggest changing? I can re-run this tonight if you have a suggestion.

Thanks. Could you try running it through IFOEDIT's VOB Extras with only "Correct VOB Unit" checked -- also in the VOB Expert area check "Adjust Vob-Unit pointers" and "Adjust Audio/subp pointers" and see if the problem goes away?

[lab-one]

@jdobbs

Will do. It will be morning however, gonna start again from scratch. Should I disable deinterlacing?

[smlong426]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Since this doesn't happen on any of my DVD players it's hard for me to find. In order to help me chase this down I need to know whether it ever happens outside of a chapter break (for example does it ever happen at any cell points that are not chapters)? I know that may be Greek to a lot of folks, but to those that know what I'm talking about and get this stutter -- please let me know.

Thanks.

I do not know the answer to this one, jdobbs. The way I have been testing is to play the main movie, skip to a chapter point, rewind to just before the chapter, and then let the player play through the chapter point normally. I will have to look more closely for a DVD that has separate cells not separated by chapter breaks.

I have tried loading the VTS IFO's into IFOEdit and using the VOB Extra with the following selected to no avail:

Correct VobU
Correct Original IFO
Remove P-UOPS
Remove Macrovision
Adjust VobUnit Pointers
Adjust Audio/Subp Point

I also tried loading the final output from Rebuilder into DVDShrink and let it build an ISO image. This didn't appear to correct the stutter as well.

[lab-one]

I do not know the answer to this one, jdobbs. The way I have been testing is to play the main movie, skip to a chapter point, rewind to just before the chapter, and then let the player play through the chapter point normally.

I have done it both ways. I quick scanned through a few back-ups as you mentioned above and have also watched a few from start to end. My wife and I sat down this weekend and watched Cold Creek Manor and Ripleys Game. She said she would not have noticed had I not pointed out the stutters.

I re-did Ripleys Game lastnight while sleeping. I created the image file this morning after running it through Ifoedit as jdobbs asked. I will burn the disc when I get home from work and sit down and watch the movie once my daughter allows...

Will report back then.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by lab-one
I have done it both ways. I quick scanned through a few back-ups as you mentioned above and have also watched a few from start to end. My wife and I sat down this weekend and watched Cold Creek Manor and Ripleys Game. She said she would not have noticed had I not pointed out the stutters.

I re-did Ripleys Game lastnight while sleeping. I created the image file this morning after running it through Ifoedit as jdobbs asked. I will burn the disc when I get home from work and sit down and watch the movie once my daughter allows...

Will report back then. Thanks much.

[DMagic1]

Thanks StifflerStealth

Its funny, I have to look at the top of the page everytime to see which topic I'm posting in.

[StifflerStealth]

It appears DMagic lost his own post. Yoda will help you find it, he will.

Click Here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=470126#post470126)

There you go.

I wish I remembered what Yoda said in Episode 2 when Obi-Wan was looking for a planet that was erased from the archives.

Stiff

[lab-one]

quote:
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Originally posted by lab-one
@jdobbs

No, it is only occurring at chapter breaks.

DVDDecrypter (file mode)
DVD-RB .30
-Path to MPEG2DEC3DG set
-Path to DECOMB511.DLL set
-Remove all DTS set
-Autodetect Film
-ConverttoYUY2() set
-Deinterlace with decomb set
-AudioDub(BlankClip()) set
CCE 2.50SP
-VBR Bias 25
-Qualiy Prec 24
-VBR Passes 2
ECLCCE 1.7
ImageToolClassic
DVDDecrypter (write)
Latest back-up: Ripleys Game NTSC
Sony DVPNS725P stand alone
Verbatim DVD+R
AMD Athlon XP 2400+ / 512mb RAM

Is there something you would suggest changing? I can re-run this tonight if you have a suggestion.

Thanks.
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Could you try running it through IFOEDIT's VOB Extras with only "Correct VOB Unit" checked -- also in the VOB Expert area check "Adjust Vob-Unit pointers" and "Adjust Audio/subp pointers" and see if the problem goes away?


@jdobbs

Just wateched the first hour of Ripleys Game and although the "stuttering" is faint....almost unrecognizable it does exist and it is only occuring at chapter breaks. I don't know that it's my stand alone as I have no problems with back-ups I have done with other software.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by lab-one
quote:
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Originally posted by lab-one
@jdobbs

Just wateched the first hour of Ripleys Game and although the "stuttering" is faint....almost unrecognizable it does exist and it is only occuring at chapter breaks. I don't know that it's my stand alone as I have no problems with back-ups I have done with other software. Can't have that... all st.. st..stuttering must cease. I'm working it. Unfortunately I have yet to have seen it for myself.

[DMagic1]

I just did Tombstone. I could see the chapter stutter easily with PowerDVD. I used v.031 and CCE.

[lab-one]

@jdobbs

Can't have that... all st.. st..stuttering must cease. I'm working it. Unfortunately I have yet to have seen it for myself.

Well, after getting the 6 month old off my lap and looking closely at the last half of the movie I noticed something that I should have let you know earlier. The "fluttering", as I will now refer to it (because it truly isn't a "stutter"), occurs throughout the movie...NOT JUST AT CHAPTER BREAKS. I apologize for misleading you prior to this and hope that I have not wasted a lot of your time looking at how chapters are put together. What I noticed were brief....maybe measured in MS changes in speed. Example, the character is walking or turning and his/her movement speeds up for a brief moment. Funny thing is, I really don't see any changes in the audio (or should I say hear any changes).

So, could this be something to do with how bitrates are being spread across cells and nothing to do with your coding? Excuse me for being ignorant, I am deffinetely a newbie when it comes to CCE Encoding. I never could get through the big3 and settled for movie only back-ups with Shrink or AVI's with Gknot. Until this app, I've never learned about whats really happening...

Maybe it is my dvd player. I don't know that I would call it "cheap" perse, however $130 isn't top-of-the-line either. I realize that. Again though, my rips from shrink always play without any problems.

This is long winded and my point is, maybe it's the way I am doing the encoding (using decomb, CCE settings are not "right"....etc.). Hell, I don't know. I will keep trying.

On a positive note, I am blown away by the quality of the back-ups. I have had goodluck with shrink doing movie only and watching AVI's through my pc to the tv has been less than desirable. So, even with the "flutters", being able to back-up my DVD collection this way is awesome.

[ffroms]

Hi all!
I just wanted to say great work jdobbs!
Last night I've tried E.T. PAL and everything went beautiful.
First I've used DVDReMake 1.3.1 to delete what I don't want and run it through DVDRebuild. Here what I've set
Deactivated all extra lines in AVS (like AddAudio() or any ConvertTo...) so my AVS looks something like
mpeg2source("C:\test.avs")
Trim(0,1234)

I've used CCE SP 2.66.0.26 (I think) with 2 pass. Done some viewing tests on PC with 3 different players and my stand alone player and had no stuttering at all. I've given disk to friend to test it on PS2 and his stand alone player to see is there any problems.

FFS

[Sir Didymus]

Originally posted by DMagic1
I just did Tombstone. I could see the chapter stutter easily with PowerDVD. I used v.031 and CCE.
My experience is different...

I have to say I truly understand the difficulties of replicating the "stuttering effect" if your hardware player is not assisting in the job: maybe it depends on the specific configuration of the PC, or on the installed codecs, or on something else, but I never was able to see it on my PC.

With Donnie Brasco, PAL, R2, I used PowerDVD, WinDVD and the IfoEdit Player, staring at the monitor very carefully, and the play has been every time perfect and fluent on the PC.

Just playing the burned title on my "cheap" hardware player the effect is immediately visible at each chapter change...

All the best
SD

[wmansir]

I just wanted to add that my cheap (apex) player also has this slight stuttering problem, but it is not at every chapter point. It is fairly rare (every 2-3 minutes) and it isn't really a stutter. The audio seems to play fine, as I don't hear any distortions, but the video seems to just randomly jump ahead a fraction of a second. If I reverse back and play over the same section, it doesn't happen though. So I assume it isn't something wrong at that particular point in the stream, but a 'resyncing' or some other problem which develops over time.

I can definitely say it isn't just at chapter points or Cell merger points, as it will happen in the middle of a scene and sometimes a couple of times within a 10-15 seconds. It is almost like a max-bitrate too high problem, but the points that it happen don't appear to be high bitrate shots.

BTW, this happened with a .30 rebuild. I haven't had a successfully .31 rebuild yet.

[HanSolo00]

Originally posted by lab-one
Well, after getting the 6 month old off my lap and looking closely at the last half of the movie I noticed something that I should have let you know earlier. The "fluttering", as I will now refer to it (because it truly isn't a "stutter"), occurs throughout the movie...NOT JUST AT CHAPTER BREAKS. I apologize for misleading you prior to this and hope that I have not wasted a lot of your time looking at how chapters are put together. What I noticed were brief....maybe measured in MS changes in speed. Example, the character is walking or turning and his/her movement speeds up for a brief moment. Funny thing is, I really don't see any changes in the audio (or should I say hear any changes).

I've been playing with one of my projects I finished with DVD-RB v0.31 and I think I'm inclined to agree with you. When I play it back in PowerDVD, the video doesn't seem as 'smooth' as it should be, yet doesn't show the glaring stutter at chapter breaks. On my Norcent DVD player though, the video does seem smooth until you hit the chapter break where it jumps a fraction of a second. My guess is the two players are handling the video syncing differently and thus the problem (if it is syncing) is materializing in a different manner.

Maybe it's just my eyes but it seems as if it is a video syncing issue that the different players deal with in different ways. Anyhow, since jdobbs is already armpit deep on his way to fixing this I'm not sure if this observation is of any help, so I'll just wait patiently for the next release.

[ffroms]

OK. ET is definitely good. Tested on 3 different players. now I have other question. What is minimum VOB size limit to be done in DVDRebuild. Here is the situation. I have James Bond disk and it have 19 VTS. I've used DVDReMake to clean what I don't want and there was 8 VTS to process. VTS1,2 and 3 are done OK but VTS 11,12,13,14 are around 30MB in size and they where skipped. Did I missed something or...?
I've tried to work with ReJig0.5e and everything works except produced m2v file is 0kb for all chapters. Is that bug or I'm doing something wrong (I've used ReJig manually and it works)? I'm using DVDRebuild 0.31

FFS

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by ffroms
OK. ET is definitely good. Tested on 3 different players. now I have other question. What is minimum VOB size limit to be done in DVDRebuild. Here is the situation. I have James Bond disk and it have 19 VTS. I've used DVDReMake to clean what I don't want and there was 8 VTS to process. VTS1,2 and 3 are done OK but VTS 11,12,13,14 are around 30MB in size and they where skipped. Did I missed something or...?
I've tried to work with ReJig0.5e and everything works except produced m2v file is 0kb for all chapters. Is that bug or I'm doing something wrong (I've used ReJig manually and it works)? I'm using DVDRebuild 0.31

FFS I've inserted code to not reencode VTSs that are under 50MB because I figured they were insignificant (and often have stills or BOV -- hence, why I am skipping them until they is supported).

[Toranaga]

I tried Blade II again like I said with 0.31 and stutter is still there, and it is not related to chapters. It is audible when playing with Nero Showtime but not so much in PowerDVD5. But it is clear on my Pioneer DV-545 player. Would it be helpful if someone uploaded a small piece of the movie wich includes the stuttering?

[nwg]

I don't know if this a bug or not.

DVD-RB 031
CCE 2.50 (4 passses)
eclCCE 1.8

I have Master and Comander PAL. Shrink with just DD 5.1 shows 75% compression of the original and ended at 4.34GB

I did it in DVD-RB. After prepare the best it could do was 64.5%. I encoded anyway and it ended up just 3.87GB.

I tried to use the targetsectors trick and put the maximum sectors but it didn't matter.

Is it just the way DVD-RB works?

Edit.

I thought this was the 030+ bug thread sorry.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Toranaga
I tried Blade II again like I said with 0.31 and stutter is still there, and it is not related to chapters. It is audible when playing with Nero Showtime but not so much in PowerDVD5. But it is clear on my Pioneer DV-545 player. Would it be helpful if someone uploaded a small piece of the movie wich includes the stuttering? Are we talking about a video or an audio stutter?

[Toranaga]

Mostly audio, but the video also has slight stutter.

[ffroms]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I've inserted code to not reencode VTSs that are under 50MB because I figured they were insignificant (and often have stills or BOV -- hence, why I am skipping them until they is supported).

THX for replay. I was thinking it is something like that but wasn't sure. What about ReJig0.5e? I'm getting 0kb files no matter what I do.

FFS

[psdos]

With Peter Pan animation in rebuilding process "DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort".

Another thing that i see is problem with interleaved video, the picture flick (decomb.dll option is marked). When i do cloned films with scenarist at the extras i process with two filters in avs,

LoadPlugin("C:\Archivos de programa\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2DEC3dg.DLL")
mpeg2source("C:\peli.d2v")
Bob <----
SelectEven <----
ConvertTOYUY2()

[WndrBr3d]

@jdobbbs

I did some trouble shooting re: the suttering video while backing up Star Trek Voyager: Season 1 Disc 1

I think it's an issue with MPEG2Dec3dg.dll

I tried to replicate the issue while using VirtualDubMod to encode the AVS file generated by DVD-RB into DivX. The DivX output suttered just as it did with the CCE output (during encode, you could see it go frmae #222,223,224,222,223,224 -- like it was going back a frame or two).

I then tried to encode the M2V using VirtualDubMod's built in MPEG2 decoder/reader. The file encoded without any stuttering but the audio/video were out of sync.

Hope this helps! :D

[nwg]

Does Rejig use MPEG2Dec3dg.dll?

I have had the stuttering with both CCE and Rejig.

[jurij]

I Used dvd rebuilder 0.33
1. DVD-R Version: Pal
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. The DVD has 5 audio channels:
-English
-German
-French
-Spanish
-Italian
I chosed to keep only English and Italian audios
After encoding everything the result was a DVD with only English and Spanish Audio.
If i select Italian audio on dvd playback i hear nothing.
Can you do anything? Thanx for the nice job anyway
5. -----------------
Phase I, PREPARATION started at 10.32.12
- VTS_02: 3.483.252 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 169.451 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_03: 62.413 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 3.525 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 63,3%
- Overall Bitrate : 4.416Kbs
- HIGH/LOW Cell Bitrates: 0/9.999 Kbs
Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 3 minutes.
Phase II ENCODING started at 10.36.03
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 00
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 01
- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 02
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- Creating M2V for VTS_02 segment 18
- Creating M2V for VTS_03 segment 00
Phase II ENCODING completed in 153 minutes.
Phase III, REBUILD started at 13.09.19
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
- Processing VTS_02
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1
- Updating information in NAVPACKS...
- Rebuilding segment 1 VOBID:2 CELLID:1
- Updating information in NAVPACKS...
- Rebuilding segment 2 VOBID:2 CELLID:2
- Updating information in NAVPACKS...
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- Updating information in NAVPACKS...
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- Rebuilding segment 17 VOBID:2 CELLID:17
- Updating information in NAVPACKS...
- Rebuilding segment 18 VOBID:2 CELLID:18
- Updating information in NAVPACKS...
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_02_0.IFO
- Processing VTS_03
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1
- Updating information in NAVPACKS...
- Updated VTS_C_ADT.
- Updated VTS_VOBU_ADMAP.
- Updated IFO: VTS_03_0.IFO
Correcting VTS Sectors...
Phase III, REBUILD completed in 10 minutes.

Done.

[jurij]

i decided to rebuild the dvd a second time:
i have selected spanish audio instead of Italian and the output was a dvd with english and italian.
i managed to solve the problem this time, but what if the next movie won't have spanish audio LOL?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jurij
i decided to rebuild the dvd a second time:
i have selected spanish audio instead of Italian and the output was a dvd with english and italian.
i managed to solve the problem this time, but what if the next movie won't have spanish audio LOL? I'm scratching my head and wondering... I use the 2 letter codes to determine the language... I'll go back and see if my code is confused.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jurij
i decided to rebuild the dvd a second time:
i have selected spanish audio instead of Italian and the output was a dvd with english and italian.
i managed to solve the problem this time, but what if the next movie won't have spanish audio LOL? Do the menus work correctly for the Italian output? Or do you have to pick Spanish?:eek:

[jurij]

after i used dvd rebuilder choosing spanisch audio, the dvd works ok (i chose italian audio from menu and it plays italian)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jurij
after i used dvd rebuilder choosing spanisch audio, the dvd works ok (i chose italian audio from menu and it plays italian) I think I found the cause. Was there a missing VTS number in the selection window? (for example it may have had VTS_01, VTS_02, VTS_05, VTS_06) -- I found a bug in which the selected streams in either of VTS_05 or VTS_06 (in the example) might not select audio streams properly...

It's already fixed and will be in v0.35.

[jurij]

In the "Video Title Sets" frame I only have 2 lines:
VTS_02
VTS_03

The Dvd actually has 4:
VTS_01
VTS_02
VTS_03
VTS_04

Is that suppose to be a bug?
VTS_01 only has copiright infos and
VTS_02 movie
VTS_03 trailer
VTS_04 has the Paramount LOGO intro

As you can see in my 1st post, the log shows it only compressed VTS_02 and VTS_03

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jurij
In the "Video Title Sets" frame I only have 2 lines:
VTS_02
VTS_03

The Dvd actually has 4:
VTS_01
VTS_02
VTS_03
VTS_04

Is that suppose to be a bug?
VTS_01 only has copiright infos and
VTS_02 movie
VTS_03 trailer
VTS_04 has the Paramount LOGO intro

As you can see in my 1st post, the log shows it only compressed VTS_02 and VTS_03 DVD-RB sees the other two as insignificant and doesn't process them -- so they aren't available to resize or aspect_ratio change.

[jurij]

Will there be a feature to compress more the trailers, and compress less the movie for example?
Or a feature that compress the pcm audio of a live concert to stereo ac3? that would be very useful!!!

[JDay]

I tried Battle Royale II (HK, NTSC, reauthored, movie only with dvd shrink) again with .34 and was pleasantly suprised. The jerky video and audio losing sync (during ff/rw) that I had experienced previously were gone. However, I still get an error when burning with nero (reallocation failed, video_ts.vob not referenced) and the subtitles wouldn't appear (were selectable, but didn't show up) on 3 different standalone players I tried (or on my modded xbox with dvdx, but thats more of a software player). They did make it through, though, as they show up when played on my computer under media player classic.

[tf]

Battle Royal II worked fine with 0.31 here, apart from the missing subtitles. But that's because the subtitles are Closed Captions, and DVD Rebuilder doesn't support those - yet. Actually, I did that movie using the Big Three Method (and did check CC in DIF4U), but Closed Captions didn't work in it either. Neither did it in Shrink, Recode, Instant Copy or anything else. Oh well.

-tf

[JDay]

I'm not doing the Japanese version, but the Hong Kong version, which does have "real deal" english subs. They did come through and show up in MPC, but not in any hardware players that I tried...

[tf]

Uhm... I have the Hong Kong version. It does have Closed Captions. Check the back of the cover, table for Disc A. It says "Dolby Digital", "CC", "DVD-9" etc.

CC means Closed Captioning.

Of course you might have a different version, mine has 3 sets of subtitles/closed captions: Chinese (Traditional), English and Chinese (Simplified).

-tf

[Joergen]

Originally posted by JDay
I still get an error when burning with nero (reallocation failed, video_ts.vob not referenced)

That's an error with the original disc, and you should remove the file in nero template if its not referenced.

[JDay]

Originally posted by Joergen
That's an error with the original disc, and you should remove the file in nero template if its not referenced.

Oh, wow, it does do that on the original disc. Never had that problem before when reauthoring with DVD Shrink, very odd...

I'll try running the original through dvd shrink and try it on my standalones, to see if the subtitle issue is related to the source or dvd-rb.

[Joergen]

Nero is just very picky for standard compliance. After months of people blasting nero for alleged incompliance.. it now makes sure in every way that its good. And the funny thing is, the so called "good burning tools" dont even check for these things. In many burning software you can shove JPG and MP3 files inside the VIDEO_TS folder and it doesnt care :D

[JDay]

I must have a different version of BRII than tf. It DEFINITELY has actual subs, not captions. However, I shrunk my source with dvd shrink and burned and got the same results on my players - no subs. The problem was most likely rooted in the reauthoring with dvd shrink, not dvd-rb. It made a perfect backup of my botched source material! :)

[Jail]

DVDR Version 0.34
CCE SP Trial: 2.66.01.07
EclCCE: yes
Bug: Using one-click encoding.
Processing a dvd with only one titleset VTS_01.
During Phase I, "Scanning and writing .D2V file",
after 80-90% DVDR reports
"Runtime error '9':
Subscript out of range"

I can only press "ok" and DVDR quits after that ..

I don't know which additional information to give you to be able to hunt down the bug.
The DVD I'm re-encoding is a Danish one, so I don't think you have access to it :-)

Thanks for a very nice program anyway - donation has been given :)

/Jail

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Jail
DVDR Version 0.34
CCE SP Trial: 2.66.01.07
EclCCE: yes
Bug: Using one-click encoding.
Processing a dvd with only one titleset VTS_01.
During Phase I, "Scanning and writing .D2V file",
after 80-90% DVDR reports
"Runtime error '9':
Subscript out of range"

I can only press "ok" and DVDR quits after that ..

I don't know which additional information to give you to be able to hunt down the bug.
The DVD I'm re-encoding is a Danish one, so I don't think you have access to it :-)

Thanks for a very nice program anyway - donation has been given :)

/Jail Well, I picked up "Tora Tora Tora" yesterday which has been reported to cause this same error -- I will try it later today. Maybe I can repeat it and nail this thing.

[tf]

Jail: I'm Danish, which movie is it? I might have it and can check it out.

-tf

[jdobbs]

A new version (0.35) has been posted with a couple of bug fixes. See the first message of this thread.

Please also note, that per a suggestion, I am changing the title of the "Comments and Suggestions" thread each time I post an update so you can easily see it from the "One Click DVD backup solutions" page.

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Well, I picked up "Tora Tora Tora" yesterday which has been reported to cause this same error -- I will try it later today. Maybe I can repeat it and nail this thing. I also reported doing "Tora Tora Tora" without errors so don't get your hopes up too high that you'll get the error.

[Jail]

TF: It's the first "Kasper og Mandrilaftalen" DVD.
Uncompressed size 7,84 GB.

/Jail

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Well, I picked up "Tora Tora Tora" yesterday which has been reported to cause this same error -- I will try it later today. Maybe I can repeat it and nail this thing. I did "Tora Tora Tora" -- I got no runtime '9' errors, and it looks very good.

"Tora Tora Tora"
NTSC Region 1

CCE 2.50/ECLCCE 1.7b
DVD-RB 0.35
AVISYNTH 2.54
MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL
AMD 2400+ Processor
ASUS Motherboard
MAXTOR 160GB Drive 8MB cache


What can I say? This movie doesn't cause any problems?

[DVD Maniac]

First of all I would like to congratulate Mr dobbs on developing such a great tool, donation on its way!

I have now done four successful backups with zero error and excellent quality results.

I have now encountered the runtimne error 9 problem myself. Despite the fact that my source is not "clean" I am posting results as it may aid tracking down the problem.

Original

8 Titlesets with episodes in VTS 5-8
First 3 titlesets were junk trailers / assorted rubbish

Titlesets 1 -3 were single PGC's/vob's which I replaced with single frame vob's and stripped out audio (video only) - MackernX method

Rebuilder crashes with "Runtime error 9" immediateley after Prepare is clicked (three step mode).

Feeding the original, unstripped version results in no error. However, Rebuulder has worked fine with others that I have pre-stripped using the same method - odd

Hope this helps in tracking down the problem

[Joergen]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I did "Tora Tora Tora" -- I got no runtime '9' errors, and it looks very good.

"Tora Tora Tora"
NTSC Region 1

CCE 2.50/ECLCCE 1.7b
DVD-RB 0.35
AVISYNTH 2.54
MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL
AMD 2400+ Processor
ASUS Motherboard
MAXTOR 160GB Drive 8MB cache


What can I say? This movie doesn't cause any problems?

Good to hear. To get the most out of your purchase, can you try it with CCE 2.66 and 2.67 also please?

btw. how many passes did you do? Perhaps CCE 2.5 is bombing out with the CRC check error for some.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by DVD Maniac
Titlesets 1 -3 were single PGC's/vob's which I replaced with single frame vob's and stripped out audio (video only) - MackernX method

Why use "methods" when you can use TitleSetBlanker. I havent had any problems with that tool and it succesfully removes play from any titleset.

[DVD Maniac]

Just to add that I was using v0.35 of Rebuilder

Also, just done disc 3 of the same series with a MackernX style pre-strip - no problems

[DVD Maniac]

Why use "methods" when you can use TitleSetBlanker. I havent had any problems with that tool and it succesfully removes play from any titleset.

I have not come across this tool. Does it handle titls-sets with multiple PGC's with single or multiple vob's?

[Joergen]

It can cleverly blank anything that doesnt require user-interaction (menus). So you can even blank the movie titleset itself. I've used it on many dvd's so far without problems (to blank out copyright warnings that usually are in multiple languages, studio animations, extras titlesets).

Only thing to watch out for is when you load up a video_ts.ifo the video_ts.vob is checked automatically.. you need to uncheck it if you dont want to remove it.

For instance take any Disney DVD, blank out the "coming to dvd" commercials that are multiple in one vob, and your player will show a black screen for a short while and move on to what comes after the commercials. It's great.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
Good to hear. To get the most out of your purchase, can you try it with CCE 2.66 and 2.67 also please?

btw. how many passes did you do? Perhaps CCE 2.5 is bombing out with the CRC check error for some. Possibly... I'm only doing 3 passes. But I don't see how that could result in a Runtime '9' error during REBUILD. Anyway -- these errors don't worry me nearly as much as the elusive stutter.

[quantum]

Originally posted by Joergen
It can cleverly blank anything that doesnt require user-interaction (menus). So you can even blank the movie titleset itself. I've used Something not mentioned is you can only blank an entire VTS. So if you have several PGCs such as trailers and want to retain one and delete the others, you can't do it with this tool. With that said, it's still very handy and well designed. I use it myself regularly.

[nwg]

So if you have several PGCs such as trailers and want to retain one and delete the others, you can't do it with this tool.

DVD Stripper will do that. It is more powerful than Titleset Blanker but, takes a lot more time to do (plus it needs DVD Decrypter and Ifoedit).

[three_dee]

if this has been posted before, forgive me, but there's like a gazilion posts to search through.

1. DVD-R Version: 0.35
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Yes
4. Bug encountered: when using the new 4:3 letterboxed -> 16:9 anamorph conversion, the 16:9 flag isn't set in the ifo (can be easily fixed in IFOedit, however)


no bug, but a suggestion: make the other conversion possible too (from amaporph 16:9 to letterboxed 4:3) then ppl have - in my opinion - a better alternative to save bits on long encodes, rather than using half D1 which obviously causes problems for many ppl.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Possibly... I'm only doing 3 passes. But I don't see how that could result in a Runtime '9' error during REBUILD. Anyway -- these errors don't worry me nearly as much as the elusive stutter.

I do 3 passes myself aswell and havent run into problems yet.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by nwg
DVD Stripper will do that. It is more powerful than Titleset Blanker but, takes a lot more time to do (plus it needs DVD Decrypter and Ifoedit).

Does DVD Stripper "remove play" like titlesetblanker does? So if say a #1 Studio animation is in the same VTS as a #2 copyright warning. If I remove #2 will the player "skip" the warning or hang cause it isnt there (as if you stripped the vobid with ifoedit)?

[nwg]

You can strip anything out with DVD Stripper. It creates a folder of the decrypted DVD using DVD Decrypter in cell id mode. It will just skip anything you take out (video or menu items).

It is even possible to take out the menus language and just keep English. I did this with Matrix Revolutions prior to DVD-RB and took out the German menus.

[Joergen]

Cool thanks. I had some problems using ifoedit to just strip vobid's from a multilanguage menu, I'll be sure to use dvdstripper next time.

[zeus163]

I finally got back and tried this again, but on a different title. I did my Great Teacher Onizuki vol 1 DVD. The quality is great, but it suffers from a field order problem. There is shimmering and weird motions (that I notice when I accidentally set that wrong when encoding). I'm going through all the files right now with restream and working on them. I will then try the remerge and see if that works.

Is there a way to set that or automate that setting so that doesn't happen?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by zeus163
I finally got back and tried this again, but on a different title. I did my Great Teacher Onizuki vol 1 DVD. The quality is great, but it suffers from a field order problem. There is shimmering and weird motions (that I notice when I accidentally set that wrong when encoding). I'm going through all the files right now with restream and working on them. I will then try the remerge and see if that works.

Is there a way to set that or automate that setting so that doesn't happen? Is anyone else experiencing this?

[The_Flash]

I was just going to post that v0.36 was crashing while writing the .d2v, and along came v0.36a...fixed! Thanks!

[robw]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Is anyone else experiencing this?

Not here, all is working well for me.

[Rombaldi]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Is anyone else experiencing this?

yes,very similar (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=474470&highlight=bizzare#post474470)

[digidragon]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Is anyone else experiencing this?
Yes, I posted in the motion blur thread.

[zeus163]

Sorry. I didn't realize there was a motion blur thread. I ran resteam on all the files and retagged the field order, but that didn't seem to work. So, I'm not sure where the problem is, but there is definitely a shimmering field order effect going as I just watched the original again to make sure that wasn't happening!

It's still a great package. I just hope I can find out what I did wrong!

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by zeus163
Sorry. I didn't realize there was a motion blur thread. I ran resteam on all the files and retagged the field order, but that didn't seem to work. So, I'm not sure where the problem is, but there is definitely a shimmering field order effect going as I just watched the original again to make sure that wasn't happening!

It's still a great package. I just hope I can find out what I did wrong! Did you restream the VOB files or the .m2V files? Changing the .M2V files is ineffective -- as the flags are reset when during REBUILD.

[RB]

Restream can only process MPEG2 elementary streams, no VOBs.

[bodhead]

yea i got the same pro,with THE OMEN pal,just extras.
and red dwarf pal series 5 disc 1,not tried any others till theres a fix,if poss.fingers crossed.

[zeus163]

I ran restream on the .m2v files that CCE produced. I guess I did not realize that the flags are reset during the rebuild process. I guess I could have demuxed my .vob files from the finished rebuild process. That might have worked. I've deleted it and will try again later.

[Paced]

Originally posted by bodhead
yea i got the same pro,with THE OMEN pal,just extras.
and red dwarf pal series 5 disc 1,not tried any others till theres a fix,if poss.fingers crossed.

I just did my copy of The Omen (PAL) with DVD-RB and the extras turned out fine for me (DVD-RB detected the extras were interlaced and TFF, and set top_first=0 accordingly).

For me, DVD-RB has been flawless ever since 0.33 - these are the problems I used to get:

- stuttering at chapter points
- interlaced video not being detected properly

From 0.33 onwards, DVD-RB has been doing any DVD I throw at it (except for ones that contain multi-angles and seamless branching of course). The resulting DVDs play flawlessly in all of my DVD players, including my PS2. Once again, great work jdobbs.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by zeus163
I finally got back and tried this again, but on a different title. I did my Great Teacher Onizuki vol 1 DVD. The quality is great, but it suffers from a field order problem. There is shimmering and weird motions (that I notice when I accidentally set that wrong when encoding). I'm going through all the files right now with restream and working on them. I will then try the remerge and see if that works.

Is there a way to set that or automate that setting so that doesn't happen? Take a look at this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=474961#post474961) thread. I've posted a patched version to see if it fixes this. Let me know whether it works.

[zeus163]

Thanks! I was just checking threads at work during my planning time and noticed this. I'll have to try this when I get home and report back later. I think it took 5-6 hours on 3 pass to complete this. I'll try it then.

Thanks for continuing to update this fine software.

[PINOBIRD]

DVD-RB 0.37a
CCE 2.50
Eclcce Y
Hi, I try to back up my Roger Waters in the flesh music DVD
The problem is when ether I check or uncheck the LPCM audio stream the overall bit rate stays at 1035Kbs.
This is far to low to get acceptable quality.
The 2 ch LPCM Stream of this DVD is 2.2 gigabyte .
So if I use the 5.1 AC3 Stream I can use 2.2 gigabyte more to get a better bit rate for video.
DVD-RB isn’t calculating the LPCM stream when you uncheck it .

The Eagles Hell Freezes Over went perfect
Pink Floyd live at Pompeii went perfect

Many thanks to jdobbs for this fantastic program



Sorry for my bad English

[jdobbs]

Happy to do it. There is apparently a problem with LPCM -- but I don't know what it is yet.

[DrVenkman]

Everything runs fantastic, but I got one little problem...

Chapter Points;

Basically there is a slight pause on picture only(The audio continues to play uninterupted) when I play it back on my cheaper 'Pacific' player, but when played on my Panasonic player there were no problems at all. I tired a few things (Played it back on PowerDVD and FF/RWD through chapters points with no problems and I ran it through DVDSrink and still the problem was there.

So would this be a disc problem (I'm using Ritek discs that play all my other backups fine), a DVD-RB problem or more likely - A Player problem?

[psdos]

with RB v0.34 to 0.38 and the film "Enemy at the gate" to one second to start Rebuilder "Error 9".

[Joergen]

Originally posted by DrVenkman
Everything runs fantastic, but I got one little problem...

Chapter Points;



It's a known problem and jdobbs is working on it feaverishly. 0.38 fixed another type of stutter so did you use 0.38 to do your backup?

[djan]

Originally posted by psdos
with RB v0.34 to 0.38 and the film "Enemy at the gate" to one second to start Rebuilder "Error 9". The same for me, go to see there : http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=73853&goto=lastpost

[jdobbs]

Could you check and see what type of picture this is:

Is it interlaced?
Is it FRAME or FIELD based?

I know this is Greek to some folks (as it should be) but for those that run into this problem and know, this could help me find the '9' error.

[djan]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Could you check and see what type of picture this is:

Is it interlaced?
Is it FRAME or FIELD based?

I know this is Greek to some folks (as it should be) but for those that run into this problem and know, this could help me find the '9' error. Hi, the movie is not interlaced but is tagged interlaced. How can I know if the picture is FRAME or FIELD based ? Thx.

[jdobbs]

I do it by looking at it with VOBEDIT. Each PICTURE_START_CODE (I, P, or B Frame) is accompanied by an extension -- the extension tells you the picture_structure. It will say one of TOP_FIELD, BOTTOM_FIELD, or FRAME_PICTURE. I think Bitrate Viewer can also tell you.

The reason I ask is that I think I've found a problem associated with non FRAME based streams. Luckily they aren't that common (at least here in Region 1).

[onesoul]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Happy to do it. There is apparently a problem with LPCM -- but I don't know what it is yet. Did you see my post in the other thread? About the ID being 0xa0. Could I provide more information?

[Toranaga]

I just ran The Last Temptation of Christ PAL, and it seems to have come out ok :D

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by onesoul
Did you see my post in the other thread? About the ID being 0xa0. Could I provide more information? No I missed it... that is probably the problem then... I should be able to fix that pretty easily.

[PINOBIRD]

Originally posted by onesoul
Did you see my post in the other thread? About the ID being 0xa0. Could I provide more information?


My LPCM ID is being at 0xa1

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by PINOBIRD
My LPCM ID is being at 0xa1 Thanks. This should be fixed in the next version (v0.39)

Added: You know, I should have known that. I'm already recognizing it when scanning for languages and types -- sometimes the memory just goes.

[Djuby]

jdobbs, GREAT job. You really made an awesome utility.
Just wanted to report an undersizing problem. I made a backup of Schindler's list Disk 1/R1, kept DTS sound only, and the output was 3.58 GB. Any ideas?

Djuby

P.S. Once again great job.

[PINOBIRD]

The LPCM Stream is still not calculated when ether I check or uncheck it in version 0.39.
The overall bit rate is sill 1035 Kbs.
If you wish i could provide more information

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Djuby
jdobbs, GREAT job. You really made an awesome utility.
Just wanted to report an undersizing problem. I made a backup of Schindler's list Disk 1/R1, kept DTS sound only, and the output was 3.58 GB. Any ideas?

Djuby

P.S. Once again great job. Which encoder were you using? QuEnc seems to be undersizing.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by PINOBIRD
The LPCM Stream is still not calculated when ether I check or uncheck it in version 0.39.
The overall bit rate is sill 1035 Kbs.
If you wish i could provide more information :angry: Off I go to fix this -- and I was really feeling proud of myself. Can you tell me which VTS and which stream number (0-7) it is when shown in the DVD-RB listbox (cut and paste a screen shot of that area if possible)?

Sorry for the continuing problem.

[Fr4nz]

Hey is this a bug?

LoadPlugin("H:\MPEGDecoder.dll")
mpeg2source("H:\DIO\D2VAVS\V01.D2V")
trim(0,7184)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) <===== !!!!
AudioDub(BlankClip())

Why DVD-RB sets interlaced=true all the times? I'm working on progressive DVDs, so it shouldn't set interlaced=true in the AVS scripts! Or am I wrong?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
Hey is this a bug?

LoadPlugin("H:\MPEGDecoder.dll")
mpeg2source("H:\DIO\D2VAVS\V01.D2V")
trim(0,7184)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) <===== !!!!
AudioDub(BlankClip())

Why DVD-RB sets interlaced=true all the times? I'm working on progressive DVDs, so it shouldn't set interlaced=true in the AVS scripts! Or am I wrong? That line is only inserted on material that is interlaced. I would have to guess that the first 7185 frames (in a single cell) of this VTS are flagged as interlaced rather than progressive.

If you are convinced they are progressive and are flagged wrong you can set the option for removing "interlaced=true" under Options/AVS Options. That has been reported as happening in PAL.

[Fr4nz]

Yes I'm sure it's progressive.

So I have three questions:

1- if I let interlaced=true, will be the whole movie encoded as if it is interlaced or only the first 7185 frames?

2- Is it dangerous to leave interleaced=true for the final quality of the encoded movie?

3- Is it possible with PAL DVDs to understand if they are really interlaced or progressive?

Thanks for any answer!

EDIT: I just found that not all PAL DVDs fool DVD-RB. For example "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" fools DVD-RB, but "Gladiator" not.

[gunga]

Hello Jdobbs,

I have made a backup of the movie Haute Tension(NTSC-Interlaced-Top Field) and in the first twenty minutes, I noticed at three separate times on viewing, a stuttering/pause effect ocurred in both video and audio on my JVC DVD player. It lasts only 1 to 2 seconds each time. Everytime the stuttering/pause occurs, I noticed my birate on my player goes above 9Mbps and into 11Mbps and 12Mbps. Once it comes back down, audio and video are fine. I know DVD players don't like birates above 9Mbps, but what would be causing this problem? I'm using CCE 2.67.0.23 trial with eclcce and have the dynamically assign cell birates selected. I have not done any special tweaks either. I believe all other setting are fine. Keep you the great work.

Thanks.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
Yes I'm sure it's progressive.


EDIT: I just found that not all PAL DVDs fool DVD-RB. For example "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" fools DVD-RB, but "Gladiator" not.

I did the latter and it is progressive and CCE was compressing about 0.5 faster than if it was interlaced, so DVD-RB did recognise it as progressive properly.

[Fr4nz]

Yes it recognizes Galdiator correctly. Now I'm trying to see what happens with "The Matrix", stay tuned.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
Yes I'm sure it's progressive.

So I have three questions:

1- if I let interlaced=true, will be the whole movie encoded as if it is interlaced or only the first 7185 frames?

2- Is it dangerous to leave interleaced=true for the final quality of the encoded movie?

3- Is it possible with PAL DVDs to understand if they are really interlaced or progressive?

Thanks for any answer!

EDIT: I just found that not all PAL DVDs fool DVD-RB. For example "Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon" fools DVD-RB, but "Gladiator" not. 1. According to RB, who is very knowledgable and I tend to agree with, if it is marked as interlaced -- it is interlaced. But others say that sometimes progressive sources are marked as interlaced. I'm in NTSC land and can't verify one way or the other. You'd have to look at the other .AVS files to see if they were marked as interlaced...

2. Some say no. Others say yes... Try it and see.

3. There is a flag in the picture_coding_extension header that accompanies each picture_start_code that tells you whether the source is progressive. That flag is what DVD-RB uses to to determine whether it is interlaced or progressive. If 90% of the pictures in a cell are flagged as progressive, then it is assumed to be progressive. Most of the time they are 100% one way or the other.

My belief it that it would be silly for the original author to take a progressive source and mark it interlaced, so why assume they did? But stranger things have happened.

[luphy]

Just a small suggestion, but these bug report threads are getting long. How about creating separate threads for each of the encoders - CCE, QuEnc, Rejig.

Quite an enormous task jdobbs, creating a program to use 3 different encoders, and trying to debug all of them!

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by gunga
Hello Jdobbs,

I have made a backup of the movie Haute Tension(NTSC-Interlaced-Top Field) and in the first twenty minutes, I noticed at three separate times on viewing, a stuttering/pause effect ocurred in both video and audio on my JVC DVD player. It lasts only 1 to 2 seconds each time. Everytime the stuttering/pause occurs, I noticed my birate on my player goes above 9Mbps and into 11Mbps and 12Mbps. Once it comes back down, audio and video are fine. I know DVD players don't like birates above 9Mbps, but what would be causing this problem? I'm using CCE 2.67.0.23 trial with eclcce and have the dynamically assign cell birates selected. I have not done any special tweaks either. I believe all other setting are fine. Keep you the great work.

Thanks. I assume you used CCE to encode. I was afraid something like that might happen when I accepted someone's advice to not set the "DVD Compliant" flag... I'll change this in version 0.40 (except for Half-D1). Please note, however, that the number you are seeing is not the VIDEO bitrate, but the TOTAL bitrate (audio,video, and anything else).

Here is a quote from the DVD FAQ5:

"Maximum video bit rate is 9.8 Mbps...After error correction the user data stream goes into the track buffer at a constant 11.08 Mbps...After system overhead, the maximum rate of combined elementary streams (audio + video + subpicture) is 10.08 Mbps."

[Axlemar]

Using Quenc and the same settings on a dvd I had backed up fine before, I got a dvd that stutters non-stop throughout the entire disc causing the audio to skip and break and the video to be jumpy and in slow motion. The REBUILDER.inf shows:
[Status]
mode=2
Progress=2
CCEType=2
Encode_Progress=33
[V01000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=21021.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=2865
Last_Sector=31325
Reduction=54.5
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0

DVD2AVI says that the video type is NTSC and the frame type is Progressive and the video looks interlaced.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Axlemar
Using Quenc and the same settings on a dvd I had backed up fine before, I got a dvd that stutters non-stop throughout the entire disc causing the audio to skip and break and the video to be jumpy and in slow motion. The REBUILDER.inf shows:
[Status]
mode=2
Progress=2
CCEType=2
Encode_Progress=33
[V01000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=21021.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=2865
Last_Sector=31325
Reduction=54.5
Aspect_Ratio=2
HalfD1=0 Backed up before with DVD-RB? What version before and after?

[Fr4nz]

Also The Matrix (Italian-PAL) is recognized as Interlaced :( :(

Jdobbs can we do something about it? Maybe I could provide you some files of these DVD?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
Also The Matrix (Italian-PAL) is recognized as Interlaced :( :(

Jdobbs can we do something about it? Maybe I could provide you some files of these DVD? If you have a way of getting me one cell I can look at it. Usually they are too big for EMail.

[Axlemar]

I had backed it up before with version .33a I believe, much older than the newest version now. And then I used .39 and got problems. Also, DVD2AVI says that the video type is NTSC and the frame type is Progressive and the video looks interlaced. Is it being labled wrong or something?

[DDogg]

IMO, QuEnc, nic's front-end to FFMPEG, while showing great progress seems very experimental to be included in dvd-rb at this stage. I do realize it is free, but I would just suggest it is premature to use it in a process based application that needs accurate size control. nic is dependent on the FFMPEG folks so their is not much he can do about it.

[Fr4nz]

Originally posted by jdobbs
If you have a way of getting me one cell I can look at it. Usually they are too big for EMail.

Okay, I'm on the way to extract one cell with DVD-Decrypter. Then I'll try to put it on-line.

[PINOBIRD]

Originally posted by jdobbs
:angry: Off I go to fix this -- and I was really feeling proud of myself. Can you tell me which VTS and which stream number (0-7) it is when shown in the DVD-RB listbox (cut and paste a screen shot of that area if possible)?

Sorry for the continuing problem.

No problem.

No problem

VTS_01 [539 MBytes, 16:9] Audio_01 2Chan, AC3, Lang: English

VTS_02 [7.310 MBytes, 16:9] Audio_01 6Chan, AC3, Lang: English

Audio_02 2Chan, LPCM, Lang: English

[Fr4nz]

Hey Jdobbs I managed to put on-line one cell of "Crouching Tiger,hidden Dragon", one of the two progressive films which were recognized as interlaced by DVD-RB! Here's the link: http://web.rossoalice.it/g.lettich/Crouching%20tiger%20hidden%20Dragon%20CELL%20(PAL%20-%20Italian).zip (54 Megs).

It is not the first cell of the movie because I've choosed the one which took less space. I hope it's ok for you :)

PS: I've tried Saving private Ryan (PAL-ITA) and it's recognized correctly (progressive) by DVD-RB. So it seems that not all PAL DVDs are recognized wrongly as interlaced. I hope you can understand where is the problem.

[Djuby]

Originally posted by jdobbs

Which encoder were you using? QuEnc seems to be undersizing.


Thank you for the reply. I am using 5 pass VBR CCE SP 2.67.00.23 with EclCCE 1.8b. I also have the Dynamic Assign Cell Bitrates checked. The version of DVD-RB is 0.39.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
Hey Jdobbs I managed to put on-line one cell of "Crouching Tiger,hidden Dragon", one of the two progressive films which were recognized as interlaced by DVD-RB! Here's the link: http://web.rossoalice.it/g.lettich/Crouching%20tiger%20hidden%20Dragon%20CELL%20(PAL%20-%20Italian).zip (54 Megs).

It is not the first cell of the movie because I've choosed the one which took less space. I hope it's ok for you :)

PS: I've tried Saving private Ryan (PAL-ITA) and it's recognized correctly (progressive) by DVD-RB. So it seems that not all PAL DVDs are recognized wrongly as interlaced. I hope you can understand where is the problem. I just looked at the file you provided, and not a single one of the 2,385 frames is marked as progressive.

[Doom9]

to continue my bugreport, here's the DVD-RB status:

[Status]
mode=2
Progress=2
CCEType=2
However, all files have been encoded and DVD-RB definitely was in rebuild state (I'd thought that would make mode=3). All menu files have already been copied, same for the IFOs, and VTS_02_1.VOB was in rebuilding phase as it's the latest one to be written, but it was never completed. Not sure this is of any use, but if more info is required, just ask.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Doom9
to continue my bugreport, here's the DVD-RB status:


However, all files have been encoded and DVD-RB definitely was in rebuild state (I'd thought that would make mode=3). All menu files have already been copied, same for the IFOs, and VTS_02_1.VOB was in rebuilding phase as it's the latest one to be written, but it was never completed. Not sure this is of any use, but if more info is required, just ask. I have the error '5' fixed, I just haven't posted yet. The "mode" tells which encoder (CCE, ReJig, QuEnc) was used. The "Progress" says what has been completed. It never gets incremented above 2 because it's only there to make sure the previous phase was completed before attempting the current one.

[Paced]

Originally posted by Djuby
Thank you for the reply. I am using 5 pass VBR CCE SP 2.67.00.23 with EclCCE 1.8b. I also have the Dynamic Assign Cell Bitrates checked. The version of DVD-RB is 0.39.

You should also take note that Schindler's List is black and white, which means it is highly compressible; this may be the reason why you are getting under-sized results.

[Fr4nz]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I just looked at the file you provided, and not a single one of the 2,385 frames is marked as progressive.

Incredible...now I'll extract a cell of "the matrix" which I know for sure that is progressive. Then I'll upload it so you can check it out. Stay tuned.

Anyway, how's it possible that a progressive title is marked as interlaced?

[Fr4nz]

Okay, I've put on-line the first cell of The Matrix (PAL-ITA): http://web.rossoalice.it/g.lettich/Matrix%20PAL-ITA%20First%20Cell.zip (20Megs.)

As I said some posts ago, also this title is recognized as interlaced. I Hope this will be more useful. :)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
Incredible...now I'll extract a cell of "the matrix" which I know for sure that is progressive. Then I'll upload it so you can check it out. Stay tuned.

Anyway, how's it possible that a progressive title is marked as interlaced? It probably actually is interlaced, but is stored as frames. I've found on NTSC that almost nothing is stored as field based interlaced -- it is marked as interlaced but the two fields have been combined into a frame that is stored on disc. But when I play them back they are interlaced.

There was a lot of discussion on this topic a few days ago. The option now known as "Disable Interlaced" is there specifically for these titles. I've been told that you can treat a lot of interlaced PAL sources as progressive. But I don't do a lot of PAL work.

When using AVISYNTH they are all being presented to the encoder as a combined frames anyway (unless you use commands to separate them).

[PhAtfiSh]

An error report for you using v0.40 & rejig.

I got a 'run-time 9, Subscript out of range' when in the re-building phase.

Source was 4:3 interlaced. (It was a simple extras disc)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
Incredible...now I'll extract a cell of "the matrix" which I know for sure that is progressive. Then I'll upload it so you can check it out. Stay tuned.

Anyway, how's it possible that a progressive title is marked as interlaced? By the way, I just encoded the cell you sent me with and without setting the "Disable Interlace" flag and to me they look identical (they look fantastic, actually). I'm not sure this is even an issue.

NOTE ADDED: I only reviewed them on the PC.

[Fr4nz]

Originally posted by jdobbs
By the way, I just encoded the cell you sent me with and without setting the "Disable Interlace" flag and to me they look identical (they look fantastic, actually). I'm not sure this is even an issue.

Let's hope so Jdobbs. :)

If you'll need anything in the future for PAL titles just ask me :)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
Let's hope so Jdobbs. :)

If you'll need anything in the future for PAL titles just ask me :) Just looked at the last cell also... every frame is individually marked as interlaced (progressive_flag = 0) as well.

[Fr4nz]

Yes, I noticed the same thing with vobedit too.

Anyway I could try to encode matrix as a progressive source, put it on a DVD-RW, and see what happens on a normal television.

Tell me if you need that I do that.

[PINOBIRD]

Sorry , jdobbs but I think you missed the post about The VTS and stream number of the LPCM audio track .
I couldn't find nothing about it in the last version.
If so ,here it is again.

VTS_01 [539 MBytes, 16:9] Audio_01 2Chan, AC3, Lang: English

VTS_02 [7.310 MBytes, 16:9] Audio_01 6Chan, AC3, Lang: English
Audio_02 2Chan, LPCM, Lang: English



There are a lot of music DVD which have a LPCM track.

I Know that you are very busy with other important issues so don’t hurry.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by PINOBIRD
Sorry , jdobbs but I think you missed the post about The VTS and stream number of the LPCM audio track .
I couldn't find nothing about it in the last version.
If so ,here it is again.

VTS_01 [539 MBytes, 16:9] Audio_01 2Chan, AC3, Lang: English

VTS_02 [7.310 MBytes, 16:9] Audio_01 6Chan, AC3, Lang: English
Audio_02 2Chan, LPCM, Lang: English



There are a lot of music DVD which have a LPCM track.

I Know that you are very busy with other important issues so don’t hurry. I'm still looking. I haven't been able to find a reason why it wouldn't remove it. Was the final product oversized by an amount equal to the LPCM?

[PINOBIRD]

I haven't encoded the video yet because the overal bitrate was 1035 kbs with the LPCM checked but also unchecked.

I think if i encode the video it wil be 2,2 gig undersized .

I can try with rejig if you like

[PINOBIRD]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'm still looking. I haven't been able to find a reason why it wouldn't remove it. Was the final product oversized by an amount equal to the LPCM?

I have done Roger Waters In The Flesh with rejig.
I unchecked the LPCM stream .
The VIDEO_TS folder comes out at 5.34 GB.
When playing the movie the LPCM stream is still present.



DVD-RB 0.40

[nwg]

I have done Roger Waters In The Flesh with rejig.


I have the same DVD. I will try it as well, as I am interested in this.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by jarvis1781
using DVD-RB 0.40
I tried to backup Matrix Revolutions and at the Rebuild stage I get the "runtime error 75" file not found error

how do I fix this?

Did you unmount the iso you had as the source or something similar? Jdobbs recommends using DVD Decrypter in file mode, not iso mounting.

[DDogg]

jarvis1781, and you were using a mounted ISO, correct? If so, you may be able to save yourself some time by recreating the source using dvddecryptor's file mode. Open dvd-rb and change to the filemode source and restart rebuild. Darn, Joergen beat me to it :)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by PINOBIRD
I have done Roger Waters In The Flesh with rejig.
I unchecked the LPCM stream .
The VIDEO_TS folder comes out at 5.34 GB.
When playing the movie the LPCM stream is still present.



DVD-RB 0.40 I know I've asked this before but can you confirm (using VOBEDIT) that the ID for the LPCM is somewhere in the 0xA0-0xA7 range? I just went through the audio selection and removal end-to-end and can't find the flaw. I know its there -- so I have to be missing something on the LPCM. Is another audio stream being removed instead?

[DDogg]

Jdobbs, since I got the same error on the same title with 0.40 you should be able to replicate it on your end. That should make you happy :)

[m3taPT]

Movie: Two Weeks Notice PAL
Dvd-rb v0.40
rejig

VTS_01 5416 Mbytes 16:9
VTS_02 755 Mbytes 4:3

deselected spanish and catalan audio tracks


All seemed to work fine, until Nero said that rellocation failed, because "VTS_02_0.VOB is not referenced, and should not be present".

[Joergen]

Originally posted by m3taPT
Movie: Two Weeks Notice PAL
Dvd-rb v0.40
rejig

VTS_01 5416 Mbytes 16:9
VTS_02 755 Mbytes 4:3

deselected spanish and catalan audio tracks


All seemed to work fine, until Nero said that rellocation failed, because "VTS_02_0.VOB is not referenced, and should not be present".

Then delete it in the nero template and burn. Do what nero says.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by m3taPT
Movie: Two Weeks Notice PAL
Dvd-rb v0.40
rejig

VTS_01 5416 Mbytes 16:9
VTS_02 755 Mbytes 4:3

deselected spanish and catalan audio tracks


All seemed to work fine, until Nero said that rellocation failed, because "VTS_02_0.VOB is not referenced, and should not be present". That's an argument for Nero and the original DVD author to have... DVD-RB just calls 'em like it sees 'em. I'd tell it to write anyway (if you can)... I don't use Nero myself (I quit after the first few versions had problems -- I understand they've been fixed).

[m3taPT]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That's an argument for Nero and the original DVD author to have... DVD-RB just calls 'em like it sees 'em.

So, shall i burn anyway?

[Joergen]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That's an argument for Nero and the original DVD author to have... DVD-RB just calls 'em like it sees 'em.

jdobbs: I'm not sure but I think dvdshrink removes unreferenced or 0byte .vob's so thats why people are baffled when they get such an "error" with dvd-rb.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by m3taPT
So, shall i burn anyway?

You shall hit delete on that unreferenced vob in the nero template, then burn. I wouldnt recommend burning DESPITE an error. But if you DELETE IT there WILL BE NO ERROR. :D

[m3taPT]

Originally posted by Joergen
You shall hit delete on that unreferenced vob in the nero template, then burn. I wouldnt recommend burning DESPITE an error. But if you DELETE IT there WILL BE NO ERROR. :D

Indeed. Burning now.

Stupid Nero. (oops disregard that sentence) ;)

Thanks guys, "problem" solved in 4 mns. Amazing :)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
jdobbs: I'm not sure but I think dvdshrink removes unreferenced or 0byte .vob's so thats why people are baffled when they get such an "error" with dvd-rb. Yeah, but you also don't get a true copy of the original. I'll look at this and see if it makes sense to delete unreferenced or zero-length VOBs.

[nwg]

PINOBIRD wrote,
I have done Roger Waters In The Flesh with rejig.

I have just done it as well and told DVD-RB to remove the LPCM track (R1). The end result was 5.15GB and the LPCM is still there.

I didn't have enough space on the HDD so I decrypted straight of the DVD.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by jarvis1781
using DVD-RB 0.40
I tried to backup Matrix Revolutions and at the Rebuild stage I get the "runtime error 75" file not found error

how do I fix this?

I just got the same error on Matrix Reloaded but on the encode stage. It wasn't an ISO and I was using CCE2.66. When I went with CCE2.50 the error wasnt there.:confused:

[Trahald]

Originally posted by m3taPT
So, shall i burn anyway?

I leave it there and have had no problems... this happens with big3 backups too.. since its on my origional i leave it so its a truer backup.. just a persoonal thing i guess :D

[Joergen]

Originally posted by Trahald
I leave it there and have had no problems... this happens with big3 backups too.. since its on my origional i leave it so its a truer backup.. just a persoonal thing i guess :D

Yes, its true to the authoring error/junk files of the original :D

hmm I wonder what happens if you rename a ~70MB file to a random VOB and feed it to dvd-rb? New revolutionary anti-dvd-rb copy protection :devil:

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
Yes, its true to the authoring error/junk files of the original :D

hmm I wonder what happens if you rename a ~70MB file to a random VOB and feed it to dvd-rb? New revolutionary anti-dvd-rb copy protection :devil: Hmm... You know I've seen a lot of strange things. I once saw a DVD that had about 10 minutes of unreferenced video as a cell at the beginning of a VTS.

I guess I could just ignore unreferenced cells (but copy them). That would fix the copy protection!;)

[m3taPT]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I guess I could just ignore unreferenced cells (but copy them). That would fix the copy protection!;)

Is that a preview of a new feature of v0.41? ;)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by m3taPT
Is that a preview of a new feature of v0.41? ;) I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

[m3taPT]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

Fair enough, we're sure you won't forget it. :D

[gunga]

Hello Everyone,

Does anyone know why when I try to encode the movie Haute Tension,(NTSC-Interlaced-Top Field) the bitrate goes above 10.08Mbps at certain segments of the movie. I only had to watch it for twenty minutes when I get numerous stuttering/pausing in the video/audio because of this. Why is this happening with the DVD compliance flag enabled?

Using:
DVDRB 0.40
CCE 2.67.00.23/ECLCCE 1.7b
Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates selected
Decomb Selected

Thanks.....

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by gunga
Hello Everyone,

Does anyone know why when I try to encode the movie Haute Tension,(NTSC-Interlaced-Top Field) the bitrate goes above 10.08Mbps at certain segments of the movie. I only had to watch it for twenty minutes when I get numerous stuttering/pausing in the video/audio because of this. Why is this happening with the DVD compliance flag enabled?

Using:
DVDRB 0.40
CCE 2.67.00.23/ECLCCE 1.7b
Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates selected
Decomb Selected

Thanks..... Well... it shouldn't be possible. Can you identify the offending VTS and then go back to the original DVD and tell me how large the VTS is? Also, could you peruse the rebuilder.ecl file and make sure all the values for vbr_brate_max are set to 9000?

As a last resort you can try using the INI command max_bitrate=8000 (or less) in the [Options] area of rebuilder.ini (located in the same directory as the executable).

[jdobbs]

Actually I guess it could be possible if you had an audio stream that was LPCM and set to some really high bitrate as a result of multiple channels... any of that seem likely? But they'd have to be up around 2Mbs to get you as high as you've reported.

[PINOBIRD]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I know I've asked this before but can you confirm (using VOBEDIT) that the ID for the LPCM is somewhere in the 0xA0-0xA7 range? I just went through the audio selection and removal end-to-end and can't find the flaw. I know its there -- so I have to be missing something on the LPCM. Is another audio stream being removed instead?

Jdobbs I have opened the VTS_02_0.VOB in vobedit and I can't find the LPCM Stream
but when I open the track in VTS_02_1.VOB ~ VTS_02_7.VOB it's present at 0xa1.
This is the only stream i remove.

I am not so familiar with vobedit,but i think this is what you want to know.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by PINOBIRD
Jdobbs I have opened the VTS_02_0.VOB in vobedit and I can't find the LPCM Stream
but when I open the track in VTS_02_1.VOB ~ VTS_02_7.VOB it's present at 0xa1.
This is the only stream i remove.

I am not so familiar with vobedit,but i think this is what you want to know. That's right. The VTS_nn_0.VOB files are normally menus.

[jurij]

jdoobs:
Hi, since i have a few movies with multiple angles or interleaved sectoring , i would like to know if that is a "hard to support" feature of you plan to add it soon.
Thanx :)))))))))))))))

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by gunga
Hello Everyone,

Does anyone know why when I try to encode the movie Haute Tension,(NTSC-Interlaced-Top Field) the bitrate goes above 10.08Mbps at certain segments of the movie. I only had to watch it for twenty minutes when I get numerous stuttering/pausing in the video/audio because of this. Why is this happening with the DVD compliance flag enabled?

Using:
DVDRB 0.40
CCE 2.67.00.23/ECLCCE 1.7b
Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates selected
Decomb Selected

Thanks..... One way to answer this conclusively if you are using one of the SP versions of CCE and you still have the directory created by DVD-RB (after phase II)...

First find out which .AVS has the offending section of the movie in it and remember the name

1. Open up a new text file with notepad.
2. Open the REBUILDER.ECL file.
3. Cut and past the first 3 lines (the header and one blank line) into the text file.
4. Go down through the entries (each starts with [Item] and ends just before the next [Item]) and select the entry that represents the offending section of the movie.
5. Cut and paste that section into the text file.
6. Save the text file at "test.ecl"
7. Drag and drop "test.ecl" into CCE.
8. Double-click on the file in CCE and encoder settings will come up.
9. Click on the "Advanced" or "Bit Allocation" button (it depends on the version.
10. The tables at the bottom will tell you the maximum bitrate applied, you can also scroll through the entire stream and see the relationship of bitrate and Q

[onesoul]

Originally posted by jdobbs
:angry: Off I go to fix this -- and I was really feeling proud of myself. Can you tell me which VTS and which stream number (0-7) it is when shown in the DVD-RB listbox (cut and paste a screen shot of that area if possible)? Sorry for the delayed feedback, here are 2 screenshots, one from dvd-rb and other from vobedit.
http://pwp.netcabo.pt/onesoul/lpcm_rb.jpg
http://pwp.netcabo.pt/onesoul/lpcm_edit.gif

Hope this helps.
edit: forgot to say that the process went like before the fix, dvd-rb didn't remove the lpcm track and final size was accurate.

[m3taPT]

Second link is not working.