DVD Rebuilder (CCE One-Click Beta) Bug Reports

[jdobbs]

All,

The purpose of this thread is to try and organize the rather large traffic that is being posted (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72691) for DVD-RB since it started beta testing. In this thread please post any bugs you may encounter. It would be nice if you used the format below -- but if you don't want to waste the time, just use whatever format you want.

1. DVD-R Version: x.xx
2. Encoder being used: CCE X.XX, ReJig X.XX, or QuEnc X.XX
3. Using eclCCE? Y or N
4. Bug encountered: Description of the bug, with any detail that might make it clearer and easier to fix.
5. If you think it might help, use the "Copy Status to Clipboard" feature of v0.19 and above -- and post it with the bug report.

I will also attempt to keep the link below up-to-date so you can always come to the first page of this thread to get the latest version of the beta.

The latest version can be found here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75452)

You can find brief installation and usage instructions on this post/page. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=73051&postid=485191)

Again my thanks to all the beta testers. Your constructive inputs are really helpful in making this a useful product.

jdobbs

[DMagic1]

0. NTSC
1. DVD-RB v18
2. Rejig and CCE
3. N
4. Fast Forward / Rewind crashes or freezes some stand alone playes. Also fails using IFOEdit DVD player.

jdobbs have you tried your output in IFOEdit DVD player?

[DDogg]

I found a silly one with 19. I had an iso of 2010 mounted and tried RB on it with rejig. I didn't even notice it needed no compression. hehe, Rejig choked on a re-compression factor of 107.4. :) Perhaps you need to check for user idiocy.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DDogg
I found a silly one with 19. I had an iso of 2010 mounted and tried RB on it with rejig. I didn't even notice it needed no compression. hehe, Rejig choked on a re-compression factor of 107.4. :) Perhaps you need to check for user idiocy. Oh, man. That happened to someone earlier and I forgot to put that check in. That'll be in the next version. You want to know what is even funnier -- if you use CCE it will actually reencode at a bitrate higher than the original! Now that's a waste.

[DMagic1]

no oversize problem after all.

[jdobbs]

If the files are still in the D2VAVS directory, could you do a little comparing between the .MPV (original) and the .M2V (transcoded) files? Does it match the percentage that DVD-RB calculated? I just want to see if it is my calculation or the actual ReJig resizing that is off.

Thx.

[DMagic1]

Sorry I already deleted them.

I was testing v.019 and I just got an error.

Run-time error 5:
Invalid procedure call or argument

This was during Rebuilding, as it stated on segment 0.

[StifflerStealth]

@DMagic1,

Damn. I'm also NTSC and can't get it to repeat this - I was hoping it was something simple like a computation issue with PAL when figuring out the contents of the Data Search Informatin (DSI) packet.

In the DSI, which is in the NAVPACK there are SRIs that point to VOBUs in a forward and backward direction. If your FF and RW aren't working properly it would tend to indicate that this table is populated incorrectly. Unfortunately this table isn't enumerated by VOBEdit (except in Hex mode) making it difficult to review it. It makes it even worse when the FF and REW work fine for the discs I've tried (at 1.5x, 5x, and 20x on my standalone(s) and also using PowerDVD)

I'll go back over the code that fills the table and see if there are any anomalies...

@All,

Are there others who are experiencing problems with FF and RW?

I just mux a DVD using v0.19:
In Nero Showtime, setting the play rate faster than 1x is like pressing the stop button. Showtime doesn't crash, it just stops playback. On the other hand, I can use InterVideo WinDVD and faster play rates. The image is still burning for me to test the stand alone.

On a good note, the DVD can now be opened in Nero ReCode, so I am running it on the re-encoded DVD with everything set at 100%. This might be a temparary fix to get the fast forward stuff to work right.

EDIT: Nope, recode didn't fix it. It might just be a problem with Show time itself since it worked in WinDVD. Still burning at 1x to test on my Stand alone.

Stiff

[jdobbs]

Could you try something for me? Using IFOEdit go into the IFO file of the offending VTS and under VTSI_MAT, change the value of VTS_TMAPT to "0". Make sure you write the original value down -- and don't run "Get VTS Sectors"

Then try and run it and see if it behaves any differently.

Thx.

[DMagic1]

Still the same thing.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by jdobbs
If the files are still in the D2VAVS directory, could you do a little comparing between the .MPV (original) and the .M2V (transcoded) files? Does it match the percentage that DVD-RB calculated? I just want to see if it is my calculation or the actual ReJig resizing that is off.

Thx.

no over size after all

[JvD]

Tried the 0.18 version and got the same error again, runtim error 9. Same movie (Breakfast at Tiffanys) and same setup. CCE seems to stop when it errives to one of those still pictures. At least if I play the avs-file it looks like some kind of still. Can You Tell DBDRB to skip those files?

BUT when using Rejig (as transcoder) everything runs OK, without a glitch. (on the same movie)

Hope this EclCCE/CCE bug can be removed. Without it, it makes this app my sweet little darling ;-)

[acido]

I tried with 3 differend PAL DVD but i still cannot produce a playable copy of them on my standalone (elta 8882).
1. DVD-R Version: 0.16
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.0023 trial
3. Using eclCCE v 1.7b
4. Bug encountered:
- DVD takes longer to be recognized as a DVD format
- starts playing not from menus, then jumps back to them after some time.
- Selecting chapters from menus the dvd starts skipping between chapters.
- Looking the film from the beginning and pressing NEXT chapter i got the same results, the DVD starts skipping quickly between chapters.
.
DVD has single PGC titlesets.
.
Playing back in powerDVD gives no problems, so it may be related to my standalone, but never had a similar problem before with other programs ( clonedvd - dvdshrink - Pinnacle ic8 ...) . :confused:
.
Can someone outline program limitations and bugs in a single page for reference? e.g what type of DVDs can actually be backed-up an what not
.
TIA

[jdobbs]

ALL:

Okay, the good news is I've been able to repeat the Navigation problem (FF, RV). It's 4:50AM, I just got up, and I've started the coffee. This will be my number one priority today. I'll post as soon as I find resolution.

jdobbs

[DMagic1]

Thankyou!! :)
Hope you get it resolved.

Its the same time here and I'm just going to bed. See ya in 5 hours.

[SLA]

If i perform CRC check on both .bup and .ifo it says that they differ, but they should/must be same. so i guess the tmapti time table transfer is only performed for the .ifos and the .bups are left untouched?

btw. great tool

[hypo20]

@jdobbs

0. DVD: Bruce Almighty PAL
1: DVD-BR v.019 (but this problem I have from beginning)
2: CCE-SP 2.67.0.23 (no trial)
3: using last available eclCCE
4: audio is not working on re-encoded DVD in standalone player (only in menus, which are not re-encoded). In PC everything works fine, but in player...no. ;o) I'm testing it on 4xDVD+R but the player is working with it for sure. I've tested it with others transcoders. :)
Can you check it plese? I'm going mad. :) I want to use yours app. :)

Right now I'm trying some fixes. I will post report. :)

EDIT:
Maybe de-multiplexing a video stream from re-encoded video and running it through IfoEdit with Correct NAV-Packs, Correct Original IFO's and ReMux options enabled, the stream will be re-multiplexed and IFO re-written, so maybe this the way. :) I'll test everything.

[robot1]

@hypo20
Have you already tried a moch strip (select strip stream and keep all stream) in ifo-edit?

@all
Am I the only one who gets undersized results?
Two test: 3,30 and 3,32 GB.

[Abnormal1]

@hypo20
Bruce Almighty PAL is the next DVD i am going to try ReBuilder on. Anyway have have you had a look at the dvd in IFOEdit and checked that the audio streams are referenced in VTSI_MAT and VTS_PGCTI. Maybe compare it with the original.

Abnormal

[jdobbs]

All:

FOUND IT!! The problem with navigation (FF/RW) that was being experienced has been found and corrected. It was not in the TMAPTI table (although I did find a bug in which my updates sometimes weren't being written :( ) For the Geeks who care: In the Data Search Information (DSI) table of each NAVPACK I was setting an incorrect bit (used a bad mask value).

Anyway I tested the instance in which I could repeat this using the IFOEdit player -- and the problem went away.

A new Version of DVD Rebuilder (v0.20) is attached. The changes are listed below:

- Fixed the nagging navigation error that was causing some players to hang up when fast-forwarding or rewinding

- Added an option to SETUP that will change the background color (for those of you who just can't stand blue-green)

- Implemented code that warns and stops when attempting to reencode information that will already fit on a DVD-5 (without additional compression)

NOTE: ADDED ONE MORE FIX AND UPDATED TO 0.21

- Corrected an error in which the TMAPTI updates were being made to the .IFO file but not to the corresponding .BUP

ATTACHMENT DELETED AFTER 2112 DOWNLOADS. LOOK AT THE FIRST PAGE OF THIS THREAD IF YOU WANT THE MOST CURRENT VERSION.

[lighty]

Originally posted by jdobbs
- Added an option to SETUP that will change the background color (for those of you who just can't stand blue-green


THANK YOU !!! :cool: :cool: :cool:

[jdobbs]

Just a note to those who are experiencing the navigation issues. If you want to test the new version and you still have the files on your hard drive, you don't have to reencode (it can take a long time). You can switch from 1-Click mode to 3-Click mode and only run the "Rebuild" phase. Make sure, though, that none of your settings have changed...

[t1955feb]

Tested 3 dvd's always getting the runtime error 9 subscript out of range and it's occuring in the prepare status can't copy to clipboard dvd builder is shutting down..

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by t1955feb
Tested 3 dvd's always getting the runtime error 9 subscript out of range and it's occuring in the prepare status can't copy to clipboard dvd builder is shutting down.. This is bothering me because its another that I can't repeat. Could you post or PM me with your exact configuration? It would help if you just cut-and-pasted the entire contents of the Rebuilder.ini file. I'd also like to see a listing of the directory contents (source and working) if possible.

[t1955feb]

Hello Jdobbs how can i insert a file in pm sorry dont know...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by t1955feb
Hello Jdobbs how can i insert a file in pm sorry dont know... Is it something (text) you can just cut and paste?

[quantum]

I still get a path/file access error when I try to rebuild if the source path is a read-only drive. It starts with "copying ifo, bup and menu files". Seems to get through 100% of that according to status bar, then I get the error.

[acido]

Hi jdobbs,
i've made another try with DVD-RB 0.21 but i'm still having big problems playing back to my standalone DVD ( elta 8882 ).
1. DVD-RB Version: 0.21
2. Encoder being used: Rejig 05e ( to save encoding time )
3. Using eclCCE v 1.7b
4. Bugs encountered:
- DVD takes longer to be recognized as a DVD format
- starts playing not from menus, then jumps back to them after some time.
- Selecting chapters from menus the dvd starts skipping between chapters.
- Looking the film from the beginning and pressing NEXT chapter i got the same results, the DVD starts skipping quickly between chapters.
.

Playing back in powerDVD/IFOEDIT gives no problems.
.
I have a working copy of the same dvd, and the failing one. Both obtained from the same stripped source, if you tell me how i can try to compare them or if interested i can send you some bup/ifo files should you need them.

[DnGermany]

First of all thanks for the program!
1. Dvd is Xmen-2 ntsc.
2. DVD-RB 0.20
3. Using QuEnc 0.41
4. During the start of the rebuild phase i get run time error '5' invalid procedure call or argument.

Anyone else have this problem? The thread was getting to long to read through everything again.

[hypo20]

Originally posted by Abnormal1
@hypo20
Bruce Almighty PAL is the next DVD i am going to try ReBuilder on. Anyway have have you had a look at the dvd in IFOEdit and checked that the audio streams are referenced in VTSI_MAT and VTS_PGCTI. Maybe compare it with the original.

Abnormal

Everything is the same. Except of cell start/end sectors of course. Trying stripping streams with IfoEdit.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
Hi jdobbs,
i've made another try with DVD-RB 0.21 but i'm still having big problems playing back to my standalone DVD ( elta 8882 ).
1. DVD-RB Version: 0.21
2. Encoder being used: Rejig 05e ( to save encoding time )
3. Using eclCCE v 1.7b
4. Bugs encountered:
- DVD takes longer to be recognized as a DVD format
- starts playing not from menus, then jumps back to them after some time.
- Selecting chapters from menus the dvd starts skipping between chapters.
- Looking the film from the beginning and pressing NEXT chapter i got the same results, the DVD starts skipping quickly between chapters.
.

Playing back in powerDVD/IFOEDIT gives no problems.
.
I have a working copy of the same dvd, and the failing one. Both obtained from the same stripped source, if you tell me how i can try to compare them or if interested i can send you some bup/ifo files should you need them. I think I know what part of this is and its related to still frames and/or button over video... have you tried more than one DVD?

[acido]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I think I know what part of this is and its related to still frames and/or button over video... have you tried more than one DVD?
Yes, i've tried with 3 different DVDs for example:
"U2 go home" and "Crime shades" the 3rd is an italian/french film .
All the 3 ripped DVDs were stripped before using DVD-RB in order to shrink only what i really need, you can try to reproduce by :
- rip with dvddecrypter ISO mode removing all protections
- mount the image with daemon tools
- strip from the virtual drive using clonedvd v.2 to remove unneded titlesets/menus without compressing vobs ( size = 9999 ). Think you could also use ifoedit (as i was used in the past).
- compress with DVD-RB ( either using CCE or Rejig )
.
hope this helps
:)

[quantum]

I remember someone else reporting this. Processed Matchstick Men r1 ntsc and video and navigation is okay. Audio plays in Zoom Player but not in my Pioneer standalone. First time I've ever seen this happen. The audio for the menu works, but not for the main movie. I tried switching through all the audio channels. Again, main movie audio plays correctly in Zoom Player.

edit: My Pioneer standalone is the DV 260

[hypo20]

Originally posted by quantum
I remember someone else reporting this. Processed Matchstick Men r1 ntsc and video and navigation is okay. Audio plays in Zoom Player but not in my Pioneer standalone. First time I've ever seen this happen. The audio for the menu works, but not for the main movie. I tried switching through all the audio channels. Again, main movie audio plays correctly in Zoom Player.

Got the same prob Quantum.
Now testing with new version and some modifications done by IfoEdit. I'll post results maybe in one hour.

[2COOL]

I downloaded 0.21 and unzipped it but is it just me or is the file I got v1.0.0.0? :eek: Just put your cursor over your Rebuilder.exe in Explorer to check the version in ToolTip pop-up. Of course, it's the same for previous beta too. April Fool's came a little early. :p :p

[oCe]

posted this in the original -big thread- too, but will copy & paste here aswell, since it's a bug-report:

@jdobbs:

Well, tested your new version 0.21: same results. Nero burns the dvd fine now though, no more errors in the .bup-files. Problems that remain:

* my Pioneer DV-360 plays the first title, then displays 'STOP', no other titles can't be played. Manual skip (during that 1st title, which is the movie-company's logo) to the 2nd title or menu has no effect.
* on my Pioneer DV-360 no sound at all, just like I read about the DV-430 somewhere in this topic from another user. (the DV-360 and DV-430 are basicly the same)
* on my Philips DVD-625 no problems with playback, all audio channels (dolby digital 5.1 and 2.0 and dts) work without problems. Audio & video are sync, image quality is good (4 pass, CCE 2.67) only interlaced parts (some titles) are totally screwed up. Anyway to indicate or analyze chapters for interlaced mpeg's?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
Yes, i've tried with 3 different DVDs for example:
"U2 go home" and "Crime shades" the 3rd is an italian/french film .
All the 3 ripped DVDs were stripped before using DVD-RB in order to shrink only what i really need, you can try to reproduce by :
- rip with dvddecrypter ISO mode removing all protections
- mount the image with daemon tools
- strip from the virtual drive using clonedvd v.2 to remove unneded titlesets/menus without compressing vobs ( size = 9999 ). Think you could also use ifoedit (as i was used in the past).
- compress with DVD-RB ( either using CCE or Rejig )
.
hope this helps
:) Have you tried doing any DVDs without stripping out title sets with Clonedvd or some other package? I can't predict what might happen when the source isn't original

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
I remember someone else reporting this. Processed Matchstick Men r1 ntsc and video and navigation is okay. Audio plays in Zoom Player but not in my Pioneer standalone. First time I've ever seen this happen. The audio for the menu works, but not for the main movie. I tried switching through all the audio channels. Again, main movie audio plays correctly in Zoom Player. Odd for sure. I don't actually do any processing on the audio portion of the disc. About the extent of what I do is merge the original stream into the video stream as I'm rebuilding and modify the time stamps. I also leave the audio information in the IFOs intact.

[JvD]

jdobbs, you got PM!
I sent you some detaild info about thw runtime 9 problem. Hope it can help you. Yes, this is on a stripped movie (se my PM) but the same arises on the original movie as well, at least on this movie.

[DMagic1]

Thanks for all you efforts. Movie works fine now. No fforward problems at all.

[trebor]

I still get that runtime 9 error as well even with v0.21
It comes right away when i click the prepare button and it says:
- VTS_01.0.IFO: 3 349 897 sectors
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
And then... poff, runtime error '9' Subscript out of range
I'm using cce 2.50, avisynth 2.54, EclCCE, MPEG2Dec3.dll
Movie is a PAL movie and so was 2 other i did yesterday. Those 2 worked perfectly but this 3'rd one seems imposible

Oops, missed this...
1. 0.21
2. CCE 2.50
3. Y
4. See above ^^
5. Can't use since program crashed

Oh, and thanks for a VERY promising proggie :D

[DMagic1]

1. DVD-RB v.021
2. Rejig
3. no
4. During playback, at the beginning of every chapter the video skips and pixilates. Sometimes it shows green blocks or lines. This is only visable on a stand alone player.

This is something I notice back before the latest version but I assumed it was related to the fforwared problems. It appears its a sperate problem.

Probably becaus of this problem, PowerDVD will not let you rewind past the start of some chapters.

[quantum]

Originally posted by DMagic1
4. During playback, at the beginning of every chapter the video skips and pixilates. Sometimes it shows green blocks or lines. This is only visable on a stand alone player.I noticed this too on my standalone. It looked so odd I figured it must have been a media problem or something so I didn't mention it.

[=coDec=]

@jdobbs

Firstly, thank you for sharing :)

1. DVD-RB v.021
2. CCE V2.67.0.23
3. Yes
4. During fast forward playback freezes at the start of every new chapter. Pressing play resumes play, until next chapter when the freeze ooccurs again. This repeats throughout the film. Playback suffers the same symptoms.

Menu functions perfectly.

Film: Serpico Region 2 (PAL)

Thanks again.

Standalone player: Alba DVD108 - no problems with other proggies-
DVDShrink, CloneDVD2 trial, etc.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by =coDec=

4. During fast forward playback freezes at the start of every new chapter. Pressing play resumes play, until next chapter when the freeze ooccurs again. This repeats throughout the film. Playback suffers the same symptoms.


Thats one test I hadn't tried yet. I tested this and yes I have similar problems. When I fforward it skips one chapter at the start of the next chapter.

[DMagic1]

@jdobbs

BTW, these two chapter problems seem to be related. Once again these problems are not visiable on my Toshiba but are visible on the other 4 dvd players I have. That means you probably wont see them on your standalones. I think the best way for you to come close to seeing the problem is to try to rewind in PowerDVD past chapter points. You can get past a few points but most of them will freeze.

[hypo20]

@jdobbs

I really appreciate your work, but after "testing weekend" (poor DVD+RW, erased and recorded soooo much) I must say DVD-BR is not usable for me at this time because of:

- audio in compressed titlesets is not working in standalone for me
- there's big problem with stills, standalone is stopping after 1st title

Nothing against your work, it's a GREAT tool indeed. You want help with something, just tell me. :)

GRRRRRRRRRREAT WORK from YOU.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by hypo20
@jdobbs

I really appreciate your work, but after "testing weekend" (poor DVD+RW, erased and recorded soooo much) I must say DVD-BR is not usable for me at this time because of:

- audio in compressed titlesets is not working in standalone for me
- there's big problem with stills, standalone is stopping after 1st title

Nothing against your work, it's a GREAT tool indeed. You want help with something, just tell me. :)

GRRRRRRRRRREAT WORK from YOU.

You have to remember this is still a very early beta. Its hasnt even been a full week yet. Problems are getting resolved everyday he works on this. You have to give it more time. Rome wasnt built in a day. ;)

[oCe]

Originally posted by hypo20
@jdobbs

I really appreciate your work, but after "testing weekend" (poor DVD+RW, erased and recorded soooo much) I must say DVD-BR is not usable for me at this time because of:

- audio in compressed titlesets is not working in standalone for me
- there's big problem with stills, standalone is stopping after 1st title

Nothing against your work, it's a GREAT tool indeed. You want help with something, just tell me. :)

GRRRRRRRRRREAT WORK from YOU.

Now that you mention it... what I've posted earlier, that in my Pioneer DV-360 only the 1st title of the tested dvd was played... the 2nd title is a still image! So my guess would be that something goes wrong with stills then, perhaps worth a look?

to add the asked questions:

1. 0.21
2. cce v2.67
3. yes
4. bugs described in quoted parts

[jdobbs]

Thanks for all the help, guys. I'm a little burned out so I'm going to take a break for the rest of tonight. Tomorrow evening I'll go back to the code and find out:

1. Why the audio seems to not work on some players.
2. Why the FF and RW over chapter points isn't working correctly
3. Why some folks are getting the '9' errors

I will also look at:

1. Add proper support for still frames, interleaving, and button over video.
2. Better bit allocation algorithms for cells
3. Automatically recognizing and adding (interlaced=true)

Again, thanks. If I can get past the remaining bugs above I think I'll be close to the first real release of this thing.