EVOB De/Multiplexers

[Deckard2019]

PDVD performs this conversion. Really no chance to do it out of the player ?

[Pelican9]

Not on HD-DVD. The bitstream must be at least partially decoded and re-encoded to create a normal AC-3 stream.
Thanks!
So, that's why nothing can play the demuxed audio streams...

[superx]

this is more of a question then anything,

my computer isn't fast enough to play back these file I have backed up from my 360 addon, anyway to stream it, or even better get it on my ps3 and try and play it back this way.

Maybee some clues to help you guys. Warner uses the same vc-1 encode for hd-dvd and blu-ray, I believe they just strip the flags from the blu-ray version.

anyway to get this to play on the ps3?

Thanks.

[Phluxed]

Been following this thread along for a while now, page 3 or so. Haven't done much testing on my own, but the progress thus far has been outstanding. You guys are very close to some solutions it would seem.

[Pelican9]

I've just created a beta version of my EVO demuxer.
It can 'rebuild' the original EVO to a smaller one which contains only one video and one audio streams.
(If I finish this, you can choose which and how many streams...)
Is it a useful feature?
I don't want to waste my time with developing this if nobody wants it.
Download: http://pel.hu/down/EVOdemux.exe

[russegb]

Pelican9,

I just tested the .53 version (EVOdemux0.53.exe, note the missing "b") and it worked like a charm on my HD-DVD backup of Miami Vice.

Without editing the VPLST000.XPL file the original .EVO won't play correctly in Powerdvd 7.2, but the remuxed/rebuilt version (just the VC-1 nd main DD+) I made using your tool plays perfectly:D .

One quick point--you may want to either update your link or your filename on your server as I had to use http://www.pel.hu/down/EVOdemux0.53.exe, note the lack of a "b", to get a successful download, but the date of the .exe was from today, Feb 1st, so I suspect it was at least a recent if not the latest version.

Please keep up the great work and let me know if there's any other feedback/test results that I can help with.

russegb

[LOGiC]

Great work Pelican, thank you very much. I think this is very useful for a lot of people here.

By the way, as question to all. Is there any known way yet to "split" a HD-DVD to let's say 3-4 DL Discs? I would like to do it the following way: Buying a HD-DVD, demuxing it, syncing another language to it (just a normal DD5.1 ac3 track), rebuilding the evo editing the xpl to have a fully compliant structure and THEN bringing this to several DL discs.

Is this possible ?

Thank you in advance.

[Pelican9]

http://pel.hu/down/EVOdemux.exe

It's still beta, but you can choose the streams now.
I think it works well only if you check the video 0 and audio 0.
I will change the stream ids to solve this problem.
To be continued...

[Deckard2019]

Still looking for a conversion method for DD+ to DD.
If I use ffmpeg (http://arrozcru.no-ip.org/ffmpeg_builds/) on the source file :
FFmpeg version SVN-r7760, Copyright (c) 2000-2006 Fabrice Bellard, et al.
configuration: --enable-memalign-hack --enable-gpl --cpu=i686 --enable-swscaler --enable-pthreads
--enable-avisynth --enable-mp3lame --enable-xvid --enable-x264 --enable-libnut --enable-libogg
--enable-vorbis --enable-libtheora --enable-faad --enable-faac --enable-libgsm --enable-dts
--enable-a52 --enable-amr_nb --enable-amr_wb
libavutil version: 49.2.0
libavcodec version: 51.29.0
libavformat version: 51.8.0
built on Jan 29 2007 19:58:47, gcc: 3.4.6
Input #0, ac3, from 'FEATURE_1.DD+.stream.00.ac3':
Duration: 01:51:53.9, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 1535 kb/s
Stream #0.0: Audio: ac3, 48000 Hz, 5:1, 1536 kb/s


Information about the stream seem to be ok but when I try to convert to DD@640kbps, many decoding errors occur :

[ac3 @ 008FDF50]ac3dec: AC3 Source channels are less than specified: output to 3 channels.. (frmsize: 320)
[ac3 @ 008FDF50]Error decoding frame
[ac3 @ 008FDF50]ac3dec: AC3 Source channels are less than specified: output to 4 channels.. (frmsize: 1792)
[ac3 @ 008FDF50]Error decoding frame
[ac3 @ 008FDF50]ac3dec: AC3 Source channels are less than specified: output to 4 channels.. (frmsize: 576)
[ac3 @ 008FDF50]Error decoding frame
[ac3 @ 008FDF50]ac3dec: AC3 Source channels are less than specified: output to 4 channels.. (frmsize: 698)
[ac3 @ 008FDF50]Error decoding frame
[ac3 @ 008FDF50]ac3dec: AC3 Source channels are less than specified: output to 3 channels.. (frmsize: 1024)

[Pelican9]

Still looking for a conversion method for DD+ to DD.
If I use ffmpeg (http://arrozcru.no-ip.org/ffmpeg_builds/) on the source file :
...
Information about the stream seem to be ok but when I try to convert to DD@640kbps, many decoding errors occur :


ffmpeg doesn't recognize the correct stream type (it's not ac3, it's e-ac3)

Is there any sw which can record the spdif-in?
Because the pdvd reencode the dd+ stream to dd during the playback and it can send the audio to spdif.

[CptAlex]

it would be nice if we can choose the mpa + the mpv directly on the computer, (i've delete the original evo... and i no longer have the HDdvd to have a new one) ?
It'll be very great :D
(possible to have batman working with sound with this method ? :S)

[Pelican9]

it would be nice if we can choose the mpa + the mpv directly on the computer, (i've delete the original evo... and i no longer have the HDdvd to have a new one) ?
It'll be very great :D

Yes, it's a good idea, but I'm a newbie.
Give me a couple of weeks...

[CptAlex]

Take your time :), it's good i've refind the evo , but i'm still interested but what i said ^^, moreover i've remux batman, and no problem with the frame ! very good !, i've also chosen an audio track but can't hear any sound..., i think i've chosen the french track and it's not the default track... so if you can put in your program the possibility to change the default track, u are a champion ;)

I confirm what i said, i've now chosen the audio track 0 and it work fine !, i'll try with a playlist to watch i can choose the french track... but can you watch if it's possible to change an audio track to a default track ?
i'll tell you more in few hours about my tests ;)

[Pelican9]

o if you can put in your program the possibility to change the default track, u are a champion ;)


I've uploaded the new version which can renumber the streams
Download from here: http://pel.hu/down/EVOdemux.exe
Please test it.

[CptAlex]

when i launch the program, i have an error : rtl70.bpl is missing (in french : cette application n'a pas pu démarrer car rtl70.bpl est introuvable...)

[Pelican9]

Sorry, I'll upload it later.
Here it is: EVO demux (http://pel.hu/down/EVOdemux0.53b.exe)

[tonyp12]

You need to add a 'b' after 53

Pelican, could you included an option to slice output to 4.7GB or 8.5GB?

And the default destination should not be what the XPL file is at,
as sometimes I just read it from the dics directly.

[Pelican9]

You need to add a 'b' after 53

There was, I swear... :)

Pelican, could you included an option to slice output to 4.7GB or 8.5GB?
You can split the files with many software, (e.g. total commander).

And the default destination should not be what the XPL file is at,
as sometimes I just read it from the dics directly.
default destination: Options/Output folder

[tomos]

i've been trying this with varying degrees of success since this thread started. i've been able to demux avc video (equilibrium) and mux to mp4, then to mkv as seen here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=935396#post935396). . this plays back perfectly in mpc with coreavc (fps specified in yamb)

vc1 vids (e.g supes returns) i have to re-encode due to probs with sonics codecs (with them being registered i cant play back avc video as they mess other codecs around). i tried microsofts vc1 decoder (linked to in another thread - no joy, back to sonics). this works (after some messing around due to a lack of a frame count). the main issue is getting sound. the method in the link above works but can result in getting the soundtrack or a commentary.

i figured demuxing all would be the best bet. now the problem is still the sound. video, whether avc or vc1 i can control to a point, but nothing will let me deal with the audio tracks. graphedit wont even recognise the dd+ file and wont let my try to set it up to be played with the sonic codecs.

anyone else in the same position?

[mixanobios]

@tomos: me, exactly in the same position :D, also tried equilibrium but couldnt find a way to decode dd+

[Deckard2019]

anyone else in the same position?
All of us. As written in previous posts ...

[Pelican9]

Has anybody tried the Rebuild feature of EVOdemux (0.53b)?

[LOGiC]

@Pelican9,

not yet as I have been quite busy all the week, but I will do some intensive testing this weekend and give you feedback. Thanks again for this functionality.

[CptAlex]

i can't renumber the stream...
I have rebuilt the evo of batman, now i have a .evo file of 18go, with the english track by default (i can't have the french track by default...) and it work well. (video and english sound perfect)

[LOGiC]

@all,

I know, this is not exactly the topic of this thread, but I am desperately looking for some answers and really beg for your help. What exactly is a fully hd-dvd compliant structure ? I am asking because,

I would like to do the following:

1) Demux .evo file
2) Bring a normal DD5.1 audio track lipsync
3) Rebuild the .evo file
4) Split the .evo file to 8,5GB parts to fit on DVD-DL
5) Reauthor every 8,5GB part as an independent HD-DVD
6) Watch the backup on XBox360 HD-DVD drive

Any chance this would be possible ?

Thank you all very much in advance.

[tomos]

the furthest i've gotten so far with the audio (thanks to windvd) is to be able to play it back in graphedit and play via avs in mpc. problem is, whether the source is an evo file or the demuxed audio track - the length is 24 minutes roughly.

the same for the uncompressed wav written in an attempt to extract a usable audio track.

bizzare

[CptAlex]

@all,

I know, this is not exactly the topic of this thread, but I am desperately looking for some answers and really beg for your help. What exactly is a fully hd-dvd compliant structure ? I am asking because,

I would like to do the following:

1) Demux .evo file
2) Bring a normal DD5.1 audio track lipsync
3) Rebuild the .evo file
4) Split the .evo file to 8,5GB parts to fit on DVD-DL
5) Reauthor every 8,5GB part as an independent HD-DVD
6) Watch the backup on XBox360 HD-DVD drive

Any chance this would be possible ?

Thank you all very much in advance.

I think you can't... and if the 360 can read evo on a dvd, you will have to change the playlist, and i think there'll be a problem with the .map... watch the movie on ur pc ;)

[Pelican9]

i can't renumber the stream...
I have rebuilt the evo of batman, now i have a .evo file of 18go, with the english track by default (i can't have the french track by default...) and it work well. (video and english sound perfect)
If you check only the french audio (uncheck the others) and then rebuild the evo, you can get an evo with (renumbered) french audio only. It's working for me.
Do you have the latest version?

EVOdemux 0.54b makes a .pts file for every subtitle (It contains the timing information for the subtitle stream).

I've made another tool to process the demuxed subtitles (it's need the .pts file too).
It can make an .srt file, looks like this:
0:01:14,046 --> 0:01:18,608
line 1

2
0:01:18,684 --> 0:01:21,210
line 2

3
0:01:21,286 --> 0:01:24,586
line 3

...

[enantiomer]

Long time lurker, first time poster. I have solved the E-AC3 audio problem for now by using this graphedit flow:

FEATURE_1.EVO -> Intervideo Demultiplexer -> Intervideo Audio Decoder

Then I use bepipe.exe, which calls an avisynth script that does a Directshowsource() on the .grf; the 2 channel wav output is piped into aften.exe and re-encoded as normal AC3.

So, it's only 2 channel for now, but the sound quality is very good, and if you setup the Intervideo Audio Decoder correctly I believe it will Pro Logic encode the surround sound. Note that the Intervideo demultiplexer retrieves the primary audio stream, which generally is the one you want. You can also substitute in the Sonic Demux and it will usually demux the audio commentary track. It will be nice to have Pelican9's stream re-numbering in the EVO since there is no direct control over which audio is demuxed in Graphedit, and there is no way to decode a demuxed E-AC3 file directly.

[CptAlex]

i've the 0.53b not the 0.54b, and no link to download it...

[Pelican9]

i've the 0.53b not the 0.54b, and no link to download it...
That's good.
Try to download again, there was 2 or 3 versions with the same version number...

The 0.54b not yet released, but coming soon... :-)

[CptAlex]

ok, i'm trying with batman, i'll tell you more next.
but i've an another problem with other movie (equilibrium, pitch black and riddick), i've only the english track in the evo. However, i've those movies in dvd in french, i've taken the french track, but unfortunately, the frame for the movies aren't the same (i think in the .evo frame is around 30fps correct me if i'm wrong) and my french movies are around 25fps, so when i lauch the sound at the same time of the .evo, it's faster, if anyone as a solution ?
the problem is that i can't reduice the frame of the evo. and i don't know how reduice the speed of the audio track...

ok : batman works in french nowwww... yeah ! ;)

[tonyp12]

You can split the files with many software, (e.g. total commander).

I want a split so each splitted evo is still playable.
If you have a PC with two DVD drives, you could put
both DL disc in and play movie from start to end with powerdvd playlist.
No need to merge files to HD from discs first.


default destination: Options/Output folder

How about using the folder Read EVO instead of XPL

[ArcticFox]

Long time lurker, first time poster. I have solved the E-AC3 audio problem for now by using this graphedit flow:

FEATURE_1.EVO -> Intervideo Demultiplexer -> Intervideo Audio Decoder

Then I use bepipe.exe, which calls an avisynth script that does a Directshowsource() on the .grf; the 2 channel wav output is piped into aften.exe and re-encoded as normal AC3.

So, it's only 2 channel for now, but the sound quality is very good, and if you setup the Intervideo Audio Decoder correctly I believe it will Pro Logic encode the surround sound. Note that the Intervideo demultiplexer retrieves the primary audio stream, which generally is the one you want. You can also substitute in the Sonic Demux and it will usually demux the audio commentary track. It will be nice to have Pelican9's stream re-numbering in the EVO since there is no direct control over which audio is demuxed in Graphedit, and there is no way to decode a demuxed E-AC3 file directly.
Doesnt work for everyone, ive been messing with different decoders for days, ive not been able to get those combination of filters working.

[enantiomer]

Slightly off topic, but I feel your pain. Imagine trying to re-encode VC-1 from a Blu-ray title. There is simply no working filter path for this. For starters, I'm not even sure if VC-1 is being demuxed properly (using TSReader). I'm hoping Drmpeg can modify his xport script to deal with BDMV encapsulated VC-1. Maybe someone can punch through, but it won't be me. I've wasted too much time in Graphedit.

Back to HD-DVD, I've only done the Intervideo filter trick on a few titles. I will show my bepipe and avisynth scripts when I'm posting from the right machine.

[Pelican9]

EVOdemux 0.54b (http://pel.hu/down/EVOdemux.exe)

Change for v0.54

- Write PTS information to .pts file(s) for subtitle streams

Change for v0.53

- Renumber the streams during the Rebuild

Change for v0.52

- New feature: Rebuild. Make another .EVO file which contains only the selected streams


I want a split so each splitted evo is still playable.
If you have a PC with two DVD drives, you could put
both DL disc in and play movie from start to end with powerdvd playlist.
No need to merge files to HD from discs first.
I'm trying to figure out something...

How about using the folder Read EVO instead of XPL
What? I don't understand. What do you want with the folder?
(Sorry, my English is not perfect.)

[tomos]

cant believe the speed of development of these tools versus original dvd ripping software.

i remember having to use some prog to take snapshots of a movie with power dvd and then record the audio in realtime

is HD-DVD/BD easier for you to write for? or is it dvd software did the goundwork?

anyways - appreciated :)

[drmpeg]

For starters, I'm not even sure if VC-1 is being demuxed properly (using TSReader). I'm hoping Drmpeg can modify his xport script to deal with BDMV encapsulated VC-1.
Can do. A short sample stream would be nice.

Ron

[TNHitokiRi]

great work Pelican9, now im just waiting for the subtitle decoder program you were talking about.. :D

[mosb3rg]

Hey fellas, thanks again for all the great information i have been able to read up on over the last month or so here its been invaluable for sure. However, I have a question reguarding the framecount=000000 option in directshowsource() loading function in avisynth. Now, first i tested loading the hd dvd (.vc1) file through the graphedit application, and im able to see the video perfectly fine using avisynth 2.55 and virtualdubmod 1.5.10 to view but obviously the time line and the frame count are completely inaccurate, so i read what some of you suggested about adding the frame count into the directshowsource() function. Unfortunately, this avs wont work with the framecount option. This is the .avs i attempted to load and view once i gathered the correct frame count.

DirectShowSource("feature.grf",fps=23.976,framecount=269586)

Upon loading in virtualdubmod 1.5.10 I noticed the error "frame count isnt a valid direct show source function", so i figured maybe the latest avisynth is needed, specifically avisynth 2.57 well sure enough it seems after i switch over to the latest. the same .grf file even without framecount=??? will not load. The Error i see now is "you must have only 1 audio or video file present for this graph to work". Obviously its still just the video being fed through the graph. Can anyone share any ideas as to why this might be. Its the only reason i cannot encode another format. The frame count is 100% wrong and so is the time line, which i read in previous posts is normal, but there has to be a way to get this working so i can encode directly from the .avs file in any app i feel like using without having to convert to a raw format first. lossless or not its an extra step i would like to avoid if at all possible, clearly some of you have worked this out, can you share the combination of applications/filters used to make this happen. I figured out the math to determine the frame count based on exact time, not that its incredibly difficult.

Once i figure this small hang up out hopefully thanks to you guys, I'll ask a friend of mine to post a simple tool which will allow you to enter the exact time line (which you can get from powerdvd or windvd when you load the .vc1 file) and receive the correct frame count value so anyone can very easily without the need to encode to huffyuv or some other lossless codec just to get the accurate frame count. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide me and also again for all the work you guys have put into this format in its short existence your all invaluable to the cause.

Lastly, if i may make a suggestion to DRMPEG and Pelican, if the EVO demux command line/GUI application can rebuild an .evo again, is it possible for you to enable the tool to allow us to select the individual files we would like to remux because i have myself be attempting to downsample the hd dvd movies and redo them to fit on DVD9 media, now the debate here isnt weather or not thats a good idea, or worth doing, its just something im anxious to be capable of doing, and i read that alot of others are interested in some fashion of using dvd-9 media well a step in that direction would be enabling us to make new .evo files based on us choosing the elementary streams we would like to use. if this is possible let me know, it would greatly improve the speed in which we can begin reproducing HD DVD movies in the future.

Thanks again fellas,

Mosb3rg

[drmpeg]

Hey fellas, thanks again for all the great information i have been able to read up on over the last month or so here its been invaluable for sure. However, I have a question reguarding the framecount=000000 option in directshowsource() loading function in avisynth. Now, first i tested loading the hd dvd (.vc1) file through the graphedit application, and im able to see the video perfectly fine using avisynth 2.55 and virtualdubmod 1.5.10 to view but obviously the time line and the frame count are completely inaccurate, so i read what some of you suggested about adding the frame count into the directshowsource() function. Unfortunately, this avs wont work with the framecount option. This is the .avs i attempted to load and view once i gathered the correct frame count.

DirectShowSource("feature.grf",fps=23.976,framecount=269586)

Upon loading in virtualdubmod 1.5.10 I noticed the error "frame count isnt a valid direct show source function", so i figured maybe the latest avisynth is needed, specifically avisynth 2.57 well sure enough it seems after i switch over to the latest. the same .grf file even without framecount=??? will not load. The Error i see now is "you must have only 1 audio or video file present for this graph to work". Obviously its still just the video being fed through the graph. Can anyone share any ideas as to why this might be. Its the only reason i cannot encode another format. The frame count is 100% wrong and so is the time line, which i read in previous posts is normal, but there has to be a way to get this working so i can encode directly from the .avs file in any app i feel like using without having to convert to a raw format first. lossless or not its an extra step i would like to avoid if at all possible, clearly some of you have worked this out, can you share the combination of applications/filters used to make this happen. I figured out the math to determine the frame count based on exact time, not that its incredibly difficult.

Once i figure this small hang up out hopefully thanks to you guys, I'll ask a friend of mine to post a simple tool which will allow you to enter the exact time line (which you can get from powerdvd or windvd when you load the .vc1 file) and receive the correct frame count value so anyone can very easily without the need to encode to huffyuv or some other lossless codec just to get the accurate frame count. Thanks in advance for any information you can provide me and also again for all the work you guys have put into this format in its short existence your all invaluable to the cause.

Lastly, if i may make a suggestion to DRMPEG and Pelican, if the EVO demux command line/GUI application can rebuild an .evo again, is it possible for you to enable the tool to allow us to select the individual files we would like to remux because i have myself be attempting to downsample the hd dvd movies and redo them to fit on DVD9 media, now the debate here isnt weather or not thats a good idea, or worth doing, its just something im anxious to be capable of doing, and i read that alot of others are interested in some fashion of using dvd-9 media well a step in that direction would be enabling us to make new .evo files based on us choosing the elementary streams we would like to use. if this is possible let me know, it would greatly improve the speed in which we can begin reproducing HD DVD movies in the future.

Thanks again fellas,

Mosb3rg

Would a demuxed frame count help? As it turns out, I've already written the code based on a request from the OP.

http://www.w6rz.net/evob_demux_frames.zip

Give it a try. It will report the the number of encoded frames. So for HD-DVD titles, the encoded frame rate is 23.976 fps.

If this works for you, it can be extended to report the exact running time based on repeat_first_field flags.

Ron

[mosb3rg]

Tested this version (unfortunately only on feature_1.evo of king kong, i dont understand how note i want both files muxed together for one large movie, if you could in your response please fill me in on that so i can test properly on the entire movie, at least until the gui is updated) it provided me the frame count of 157806 now if there split right down the center like i assume they are exactly half of the time line then the frame count should be "315612" now the question is, why do i get a much lesser frame count when i encode an .avi (picvideo v3 m-jpeg) at first glance i would assume its due to the noting of the frame rate to 23.976 when its actually a 29.970 fps would be the reason for the for the following value i came up with to differ in my output. Heres an example of what I'm using:

DirectShowSource("feature.grf",fps=23.976,framecount=269586) *again this framecount loading doesnt work for me so im mainly trying to show thats the framecount i get when i load the .grf this way.*

Again i am open to the avisynth script opinions of others here. if theres a better way to do this i would love to know it because something about the method of loading for me isn't correct.

Mosb3rg

[mosb3rg]

I have got the .grf to load in the latest avisynth now, but again that frame count concept doesnt work properly, it still tries to do it from a non-timestamped .vc1 without the frame count noted in the demuxed file whatsoever, it appears that when run through direct show source theres just honestly no way to note the correct frame count, and if there is it just completely eludes me, please feel free to give any input. but just incase its helpfuly to some who dont know heres the working method of loading the video in avisynth 2.57:

DirectShowSource("feature.grf",fps=29.970,framecount=324001,audio=false)

now again even if the frame count was slightly off, that total value is what i was provided by demux 0.5 with newly added frame count. when i combined both total frame values from the feature1 and feature2 that were individually demuxed. this method for some reason just counts on its own scale, i assume the same scale that is used even if you don't note the frame count, which right now is just disapointing. In any event anxious to hear any results fellas, later.

Mosb3rg

[Pelican9]

Is this framecount feature useful or not?
Do you want it in the GUI version or not?

Edit: It's too late. I've done. :)
EVO demux 0.541 (http://pel.hu/down/EVOdemux.exe)

[Neo Fagin]

ed: never mind, mistake on my end

[holzi]

Thanks for the framecout option. This is very usefull.

JFYI:
http://ffdshow-tryout.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/ffdshow-tryout/trunk/?view=log


Revision 871 - Directory Listing
Modified Sat Feb 3 14:42:14 2007 UTC (58 minutes, 47 seconds ago) by drevil_xxl

added ms vc-1 codec

Revision 867 - Directory Listing
Modified Fri Feb 2 23:02:27 2007 UTC (16 hours, 38 minutes ago) by drevil_xxl

added libavcodec vc-1



Don't know if this changes are enough for playback yet but we get close I hope :)

[mosb3rg]

i love this forum i wake up and you guys apply the changes to the gui and ffdshow very cool, well im gonna give it a whirl now on the entire movie and see if the frame count is identical to the split i attempted last evening should be the same hopefully. Either way the problem is still not being able to use the frame count effectively in avisynth as of right now. its most likely ffdshow that is not properly reading the time line and frame count as it should be read, if there was a way to get that happening, i believe this would all work perfectly, thanks for updating ffdshow though im going to try that aswell maybe it changes something :)

Mosb3rg

[Warren]

The framecount is one frame too many because of the information frame (first frame in the VC-1 stream)

[mosb3rg]

It seems its way more than 1 frame to many bud, i get like quadruple the correct amount of frames, if i negate noting any frame count. but again that doesn't work alone as we all now know. it is strange that someone posted that it was working, when it clearly does not, not sure what that was all about, but we can rest assure something else will be needed.

DRMpeg/Pelican, can you guys implement the ability to select individual streams video and audio i guess at first, so we can rebuild an .evo file with our elementary streams that would be fantastic and allow us to pretty much right away begin reproducing HD DVDs on whatever media we want, i've already tested CD/DVD/DL media in the 360 addon drive toshiba makes, and they all worked fine aslong as the file structure was properly setup. so thats great news definately. HD.DVD9 is possible once we can rebuild.

By the Way, if theres anything at all i can post to better assist you in your project to do anything were requesting please dont hesitate to ask, i am more than happy to produce whatever you need.

Lastly, anyone out there who can provide a .prx file used in windows media encoder, which has been set to the proper specs used on HD DVD that would be excellent i think a lot of us, are aware of how we need to get the VC1 files encoded but are unaware of how the settings need to be exactly to be able to pass all checks scenarist might look for, or any other authoring application for that matter

Mosb3rg

[holzi]

xxl put a new ffdshow build only.
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=214245

But I'm not able to build a graph. I think libavcodec still needs some work :(