EVOB De/Multiplexers

[SeeMoreDigital]

A question to all: Should we move the "eac3to" talk to another thread?Yes... Without doubt ;)

[dchard]

Now I'am transcoding the Perfume - Story of a murderer, to x264, but I don't know the FPS of the DTS-HD soundtrack (or the movie). This is a german HD-DVD.

Thanks for the help.

Dchard

[Pelican9]

Now I'am transcoding the Perfume - Story of a murderer, to x264, but I don't know the FPS of the DTS-HD soundtrack (or the movie). This is a german HD-DVD.

Thanks for the help.

Dchard

EVOdemux?

[Revgen]

i am finding its nothing to do with the audio needing changing like that at all. i am finding the PTS for the 1st and 2nd EVO files have delays set in both. these delays are different for every disc, heres my take on the sync issues which have given me perfect results on every disc i have :

King Kong disc:

FEATURE_1.EVO
VC-1 video stream 0 found!
First PTS = 00000DBF = 3519 / 90000 = 0.0391 ms or 39ms <-- delay

Dolby Digital Plus audio stream 0 found!
First PTS = 00016DA9 = 93609 / 90000 = 1.0401 ms or 1040ms <-- delay


so the first evo has a delay of 1001ms which can be added to your ac3 / aac / whatever you want the end result to be.

same process with the 2nd EVO:

VC-1 video stream 0 found!
First PTS = 1C41C432 = 474072114 / 90000 = 5267.4679 ms

Dolby Digital Plus audio stream 0 found!
First PTS = 1C4198A9 = 474060969 / 90000 = 5267.3441 ms

5267.3441 audio - 5267.4679 video = -0.1238 ms or -123ms delay


so the 2nd evo has a -123ms delay


1st evo = 1001ms delay
2nd evo = -123ms delay


once the audio files have been adjusted with these delays it runs perfect for me anyways. i go to ac3 448 6ch and use delaycut to add the delays myself.

anyways thats my take on the sync issues people are having but i could be wrong....

For the record, I've never had to do this with King Kong. I just combined FEATURE_1 and FEATURE_2 with EVODEMUX (626 beta 5), demuxed the EC3 file, converted to AC3 using EC3to, used Delaycut to adjust the file by +1001MS and it was fine.

[MichalHabart]

Now I'am transcoding the Perfume - Story of a murderer, to x264, but I don't know the FPS of the DTS-HD soundtrack (or the movie). This is a german HD-DVD.

Thanks for the help.

Dchard

All HD-DVDs and Bluray should be 23.976fps no matter what country they are from.

[stdu]

Hi,
I'm trying to convert the rip of posseidon to avi and I have a problem :
I demux the 2 evo and using Graphedit and VDub I'm converting it to avi using the Sonic demuxer and converter but when I'm playing the avi (or even during preview in graphedit) the movie restart after 30 min.
So I have the begin of the movie and after 30 min the movie restart so never see the end.
Could someone have any clue ?
Thx
Stdu

[Neo Fagin]

f:\eac3toac3\eac3to.exe "f:\dda\feature_1_feature_2.DD+.stream.00.eac3" f:\dda\out.ac3 -192
E-AC3, 1/0 channels, 2:04:39, 64kbit/s, 48khz
This channel format is currently not supported.

Dog Day Afternoon

Someone with more talent than I can perhaps patch it?

[madshi]

I've created a new thread for eac3to here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125966

Please post questions, problems, suggestions or other comments about eac3to on the new thread and no longer here in this thread. Thank you!

eac3to can now decode 5.1 TrueHD audio tracks!! *)

*) needs the Nero HD-DVD/Blu-Ray plugin to be installed

Follow up discussion on this please on the new thread.

[twan69666]

Anyone got their hands on a copy of the Matrix hddvd's yet? Once I get the files on my cpu, there's like 50 files and 10.evo's in there. I tried to demux the 2 larger evo's and play the file but I had no luck.

Im going to get the newest version of evodemux and try again, but Im at work and wont be able to try again until tonight. Just wondering if anyone had seen a dumuxed hddvd with so many files?

[Taktaal]

Anyone got their hands on a copy of the Matrix hddvd's yet? Once I get the files on my cpu, there's like 50 files and 10.evo's in there. I tried to demux the 2 larger evo's and play the file but I had no luck.

Im going to get the newest version of evodemux and try again, but Im at work and wont be able to try again until tonight. Just wondering if anyone had seen a dumuxed hddvd with so many files?

Those are all the extras. You shouldn't have to demux the evos, just throw it into Graphedit and if it doesn't connect then you're missing some filter.

[twan69666]

I give it a shot later tonight, thanks!

[twan69666]

Well no luck. Using the latest evodemux, I can only open each main .evo individually. Once I reubuild them or dumux them, haali's will not take them in my graph. Actually I cant get any program to take them, let alone play the demuxed/rebuilt evo's. Ive had 0 problems with any other movies so far. ideas?

[The_Keymaker]

Seems to be an issue with EVOdemux and the movie "The Fountain".

EVOdemux will properly rebuild the EVO (after I rename them) but upon playing, the rebuilt EVO has the wrong running time (Zoom Player shows 50min vs 1:36).

Any ideas?

EDIT: Are there any other programs which can rebuild or join EVOs so I can help isolate the problem??

[ACrowley]

Now I'am transcoding the Perfume - Story of a murderer, to x264, but I don't know the FPS of the DTS-HD soundtrack (or the movie). This is a german HD-DVD.

Thanks for the help.

Dchard


All HDDVD andBluRAys are at 23.976fps. So the Audio is too

Or Your Problem is that the DTS HD has wrong Runtime ?

Note :
The single extracted DTS core has wrong runtime and is async. Its normal ,dont know why....

After muxing in mkv its sync

When youve Problmes with a cracking Sound in the DTScore ,demux the DTSHD with Graphedit and use it to extract the 1536kbps 5.1 core

[Taktaal]

The weird thing is that chapter information in the XPL seems to be stored based on a 24 fps movie. Because if you mux chapters into an mkv file, they constantly start 0.1% too early.

i.e. in Children of Men chapter 19 is supposed to start at 01:34:43.550 according to the exported chapter list. And if you play the movie from disc in PowerDVD, it actually starts at that time too. But if you recode it to a MKV, the chapter mark is almost 6 seconds before the actual scene cut.

Yet Evodemux clearly says
VC-1 video stream 0 found!
First PTS = 00000DBF
Substream id = 55
Profile = Advanced
Level = 3
Chroma Format = 4:2:0
Size = 1920x1080
Display size = 1920x1080
Aspect ratio = 1:1 (square samples)
Frame Rate = 23.976 (24000/1001)

I'm going to try to reencode the movie at AssumeFPS(24) just on a hunch.

[cwm9]

The weird thing is that chapter information in the XPL seems to be stored based on a 24 fps movie. Because if you mux chapters into an mkv file, they constantly start 0.1% too early.

I think the problem you are bumping into is the NTSC drop frame issue. HDDVD does not allow 30 fps, they only allow 29.97FPS. The video is actually stored at 23.976fps and a pulldown flag is set to pull down the video to 29.97fps. (If you look in Scenarist, 30fps is not an option, and it is easy enough to look up the HDDVD spec.)

NTSC time codes do not run in real time.. they are nominal. (To be clear: nominal means "in name only.") "NTSC 30" video "defines" a frame as 1/30 sec, even though it is really 1/29.97 seconds. (The use of 29.97 fps is for really nasty technical and historical reasons. It was done to make color TV transmission backwards compatible with B/W TVs way back when.) They do this so every thirty frames the time code goes up by one second. Otherwise timecodes would look like "00:00:10.00.3003003003003003003003003003" at frame 300 instead of just "00:00:10.00".

If you let NTSC video run for a while, it slowly becomes "mis-synced" from real time. If you just let that happen, it's known as "non-drop". To make the two match, they use what's known as "drop frame". Drop frame is badly named because you don't actually drop any frames, you just drop time codes. Every minute you skip time codes x:x:x:00 and x:x:x:01, unless it's an even ten minutes. This fixes the drift by letting the NTSC time code "catch up" to real time.

The PTS (presentation time stamp) stored in the subtitles, and I assume the xpl, are real times. Thus the "time stamp" of the video when encoded with a pulldown flag and interpreted at NTSC non-drop (which is pretty typical) runs too slowly (after 30 frames it thinks the time is 1 second instead of what it really is, 30/29.97 seconds.), while the PTS runs in real time. The HDDVD player understands drop-frame timecodes, and has no problem converting back and forth.

There are a few solutions to this. You can either use software which understands NTSC drop-frame timecode (but you have to convert the PTS time stamps to NTSC drop frame by assuming 29.97 fps but adding two frames if the timestamp is on an even minute, unless it's on an even 10 minute boundary), or (easiest) you can simply multiply every PTS by 29.97/30 so that the PTS time codes line up with their NTSC non-drop counterparts which is what most software is going to expect anyway.

If you actually try to encode the video as 24fps it will no longer line up with the audio, because the audio has been encoded at 23.97fps. Alternatively, you could change the playback rate of the audio so that it "becomes" 24fps and lines up with video encoded at 24fps.

Blame NTSC and the transition from B/W to color.

[IanD]

Blame NTSC and the transition from B/W to color.
Thanks for that historical explanation. However, was there any point in dragging that archaic arrangement into a completely new format, which uses new players, new encoders, new displays (to get the best compatibility with native format) and theoretically is divorced from NTSC? I don't see why it was made backward compatible.

[kornesque]

for those having problems rebuilding EVOs...i forget where i read it, but many EVOs seems to rebuild correctly if you simply don't read XPL. in other words, load EVO, read XPL, pick out what you want/don't want, reload EVO, don't read XPL and repick video/audio/subpicture based on what you know from the XPL. happy feet and smoking aces worked for me so far. please try and post if it works for you.

[Pelican9]

for those having problems rebuilding EVOs...i forget where i read it, but many EVOs seems to rebuild correctly if you simply don't read XPL. in other words, load EVO, read XPL, pick out what you want/don't want, reload EVO, don't read XPL and repick video/audio/subpicture based on what you know from the XPL. happy feet and smoking aces worked for me so far. please try and post if it works for you.

Read XPL is absolutely not necessary for demux or rebuild. It's do nothing, except reads the names of the streams.
It's good to check the streams recognized by Read EVO when you use fast EVO checking.

[twan69666]

for those having problems rebuilding EVOs...i forget where i read it, but many EVOs seems to rebuild correctly if you simply don't read XPL. in other words, load EVO, read XPL, pick out what you want/don't want, reload EVO, don't read XPL and repick video/audio/subpicture based on what you know from the XPL. happy feet and smoking aces worked for me so far. please try and post if it works for you.


OMG Im trying this tonight. The Matrix HDDVD's have been driving me crazy! I will let you know.

[mlansell]

Read XPL is absolutely not necessary for demux or rebuild. It's do nothing, except reads the names of the streams.

But doing a "Read XPL" does modify the stream lists under the video, audio and subtitle tabs - it seems to remove the last entry from each list.

You can't then uncheck those streams, so I think they may then be included in the rebuilt evo, causing it not to play back properly.

[Pelican9]

But doing a "Read XPL" does modify the stream lists under the video, audio and subtitle tabs - it seems to remove the last entry from each list.

You can't then uncheck those streams, so I think they may then be included in the rebuilt evo, causing it not to play back properly.

It's never happened for me.
It would happen if you create an xpl, which is not match with the EVO file.

[cwm9]

...was there any point in dragging that archaic arrangement into a completely new format...and is divorced from NTSC? I don't see why it was made backward compatible.

It was made backward compatible so HDTV could coexist with SDTV. If you want to be able to downconvert from HDTV to SDTV for broadcast to old televisions, the two standards must have the same framerate. (ugh.) Since 23.976 is so close to 24, it hardly seems worth it to go about fixing this.

There's no pretty way to convert from 24fps to 23.976fps without dropping a frame now and then, and that wouldn't be pretty. Can you imagine trying to design simulcast equipment that can broadcast 24fps video on one channel for HDTV digital and 23.976fps video for SDTV analog?

Maybe once analog TV transmissions have been dead and gone for 10 years we can finally do away with that stupid framerate. Once EVERYONE is digital it shouldn't be hard to switch to 24fps.

[Rectal Prolapse]

You can't then uncheck those streams, so I think they may then be included in the rebuilt evo, causing it not to play back properly.

This should be easy to test - do two rebuilds with and without XPL, and then do a binary compare (you can use the DOS prompt command "comp").

[twan69666]

And sure enough, my rebuild Matrix HDDVD's now work! I rebuilt without reading the xpl's and now Haali's will accept the evo, where before it wouldnt. Kinda strange, but now I have an easy solution if a rebuild doesnt work. :thanks:

[chros]

@Pelican9: Thanks for the xpl chapter extractor.
1 question: can you make it work if only the xpl file is present, so there's no evo files (in this case the Write Chapters button is disabled now) ?

[Pelican9]

@Pelican9: Thanks for the xpl chapter extractor.
1 question: can you make it work if only the xpl file is present, so there's no evo files (in this case the Write Chapters button is disabled now) ?

The program searches the filename in the xpl, that's why it have to be filled.
But, you can make a dummy, zero size EVO file (e.g PEVOB_1.EVO, the file name depends on your xpl).

[mlansell]

It's never happened for me.
It would happen if you create an xpl, which is not match with the EVO file.

I finally got a few minutes to test this, using the UK edition of Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire.

Opening the pevob_1.evo file, EvoDemux shows two video, 5 audio and 4 subpicture streams. If I then read the XPL, I lose the last video and audio streams (even though they are listed in the XPL)

The rebuilt evo (without reading the XPL) is ~15Gb. If I read the XPL it is ~20Gb. That difference is about the size of the second video stream.

The XPL is attached.

[Pelican9]

Opening the pevob_1.evo file, EvoDemux shows two video, 5 audio and 4 subpicture streams. If I then read the XPL, I lose the last video and audio streams (even though they are listed in the XPL)

Interesting. I'm waiting for the XPL.
The rebuilt evo (without reading the XPL) is ~15Gb. If I read the XPL it is ~20Gb. That difference is about the size of the second video stream.

I don't understand why bigger the second (less stream, less size), but I'll check it.

[chros]

The program searches the filename in the xpl, that's why it have to be filled.
But, you can make a dummy, zero size EVO file (e.g PEVOB_1.EVO, the file name depends on your xpl).
Thanks...

[mlansell]

Interesting. I'm waiting for the XPL.

I don't understand why bigger the second (less stream, less size), but I'll check it.

For the first evo, I selected just the first video and audio streams (and no subtitles). This is the version that plays back ok.

After reading the XPL, the last video and audio streams are missing, so I can't uncheck them. The file is bigger presumably because it now contains two video and two audio streams (the first one that I checked, and the last one that had vanished from the list). That's why it won't play, and why it is 5Gb bigger.

If you PM me with an email address, I can send you the XPL directly.

Mal

[Pelican9]

For the first evo, I selected just the first video and audio streams (and no subtitles). This is the version that plays back ok.

After reading the XPL, the last video and audio streams are missing, so I can't uncheck them. The file is bigger presumably because it now contains two video and two audio streams (the first one that I checked, and the last one that had vanished from the list). That's why it won't play, and why it is 5Gb bigger.

If you PM me with an email address, I can send you the XPL directly.

Mal
Turn on PMs or send the XPL to my mail (you can find on my site). Thanks.

[starkhouse33]

Hi
first I wanted to say thanks for evodemux.
Im having a problem with evodemux and the film The Fountain. Its the same problem another person had a few posts back but never got resolved. The two evos im trying to rebuild are feature_fountainn6ff1_hd.EVO
feature_fountainn6ff1_hd_Divide.EVO
evodemux will only rebuild one at a time unless I rename them to PEVOB_1.EVO and PEVOB_2.EVO which gives me a rebuilt evo but the running time is wrong and only 50 minutes long. Help please
Thanks

[Pelican9]

Hi
first I wanted to say thanks for evodemux.
Im having a problem with evodemux and the film The Fountain. Its the same problem another person had a few posts back but never got resolved. The two evos im trying to rebuild are feature_fountainn6ff1_hd.EVO
feature_fountainn6ff1_hd_Divide.EVO
evodemux will only rebuild one at a time unless I rename them to PEVOB_1.EVO and PEVOB_2.EVO which gives me a rebuilt evo but the running time is wrong and only 50 minutes long. Help please
Thanks
Read the evos and copy the text of the status window to here.

[starkhouse33]

This is first evo for the fountain

Opening file feature_fountainn6ff1_hd.EVO
Reading...
File size: 6974 Mbytes.
VOB number 0 contains 1 video , 2 audio and 4 subpicture streams.
PTM of first video frame = 00001603
PTM of last video frame = 0ED4AE00
Duration = 0:46:04.595
VC-1 video stream 0 found!
First PTS = 00001603
Substream id = 55
Profile = Advanced
Level = 3
Chroma Format = 4:2:0
Size = 1920x1080
Display size = 1920x1080
Aspect ratio = 1:1 (square samples)
Frame Rate = 23.976 (24000/1001)
Dolby Digital Plus audio stream 1 found!
First PTS = 00001603
Substream id = C1
Stream 1 is Dolby Digital Plus
frame size = 1280 bytes, number of blocks per frame = 3
Sampling frequency = 48 kHz
Transmission bitrate = 640 kbit/s
Channel arrangement = L + R + C + Ls + Rs, bsid = 16
LFE channel = present
Dolby Digital Plus audio stream 0 found!
First PTS = 00001603
Substream id = C0
Stream 0 is Dolby Digital Plus
frame size = 1280 bytes, number of blocks per frame = 3
Sampling frequency = 48 kHz
Transmission bitrate = 640 kbit/s
Channel arrangement = L + R + C + Ls + Rs, bsid = 16
LFE channel = present
Subpicture stream 3 found!
First PTS = 002F8EC7 (+34567ms)
Substream id = 23
Format = 8bitRLE
Subpicture stream 2 found!
First PTS = 00324E9B (+36569ms)
Substream id = 22
Format = 8bitRLE
Subpicture stream 1 found!
First PTS = 00A68313 (+121187ms)
Substream id = 21
Format = 8bitRLE
Subpicture stream 0 found!
First PTS = 00A68313 (+121187ms)
Substream id = 20
Format = 8bitRLE
Done.

66307 counted frames (0:46:05.554) in video stream 0.
66284 calculated frames in video stream 0.


this is second evo

Opening file feature_fountainn6ff1_hd_Divide.EVO
Reading...
File size: 7149 Mbytes.
VOB number 0 contains 1 video , 2 audio and 4 subpicture streams.
PTM of first video frame = 000029EB
PTM of last video frame = 10410B22
Duration = 0:50:29.860
VC-1 video stream 0 found!
First PTS = 000029EB
Substream id = 55
Profile = Advanced
Level = 3
Chroma Format = 4:2:0
Size = 1920x1080
Display size = 1920x1080
Aspect ratio = 1:1 (square samples)
Frame Rate = 23.976 (24000/1001)
Dolby Digital Plus audio stream 1 found!
First PTS = 00000CAE (+47721775ms)
Substream id = C1
Stream 1 is Dolby Digital Plus
frame size = 1280 bytes, number of blocks per frame = 3
Sampling frequency = 48 kHz
Transmission bitrate = 640 kbit/s
Channel arrangement = L + R + C + Ls + Rs, bsid = 16
LFE channel = present
Dolby Digital Plus audio stream 0 found!
First PTS = 00000CAE (+47721775ms)
Substream id = C0
Stream 0 is Dolby Digital Plus
frame size = 1280 bytes, number of blocks per frame = 3
Sampling frequency = 48 kHz
Transmission bitrate = 640 kbit/s
Channel arrangement = L + R + C + Ls + Rs, bsid = 16
LFE channel = present
Subpicture stream 2 found!
First PTS = 00095FBE (+6706ms)
Substream id = 22
Format = 8bitRLE
Subpicture stream 3 found!
First PTS = 00097734 (+6773ms)
Substream id = 23
Format = 8bitRLE
Subpicture stream 1 found!
First PTS = 0012A14C (+13446ms)
Substream id = 21
Format = 8bitRLE
Subpicture stream 0 found!
First PTS = 0012A14C (+13446ms)
Substream id = 20
Format = 8bitRLE
Done.

72664 counted frames (0:50:30.694) in video stream 0.
72644 calculated frames in video stream 0.

here is the xpl

<Title id="feature" titleNumber="2" type="Advanced" selectable="true" titleDuration="01:36:51:55" onEnd="black" alternativeSDDisplayMode="letterbox" >
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" clipTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" titleTimeEnd="00:46:01:50" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/feature_fountainn6ff1_hd.MAP" seamless="false" description="" >
<Video track="1" mediaAttr="1" />
<Audio track="1" streamNumber="1" mediaAttr="1" />
<Audio track="2" streamNumber="2" mediaAttr="1" />
<Subtitle track="1" streamNumber="1" mediaAttr="1" />
<Subtitle track="2" streamNumber="2" mediaAttr="1" />
<Subtitle track="3" streamNumber="3" mediaAttr="1" />
<Subtitle track="4" streamNumber="4" mediaAttr="1" />
</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="00:46:01:50" clipTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" titleTimeEnd="01:36:28:40" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/feature_fountainn6ff1_hd_Divide.MAP" seamless="true" description="" >
<Video track="1" mediaAttr="1" />
<Audio track="1" streamNumber="1" mediaAttr="1" />
<Audio track="2" streamNumber="2" mediaAttr="1" />
<Subtitle track="1" streamNumber="1" mediaAttr="1" />
<Subtitle track="2" streamNumber="2" mediaAttr="1" />
<Subtitle track="3" streamNumber="3" mediaAttr="1" />
<Subtitle track="4" streamNumber="4" mediaAttr="1" />
</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="01:36:28:40" clipTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" titleTimeEnd="01:36:51:55" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/Interpol_16x9.MAP" seamless="false" description="" >
<Video track="1" mediaAttr="1" />
</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
<ChapterList>
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:06:58:00" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:10:17:00" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:14:39:10" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:20:03:40" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:23:19:00" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:27:23:30" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:30:16:00" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:35:04:30" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:37:52:00" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:43:45:30" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:46:01:50" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:50:21:40" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:53:29:30" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="00:59:10:40" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="01:01:37:10" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="01:06:37:00" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="01:10:11:10" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="01:14:56:20" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="01:19:48:30" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="01:23:31:10" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="01:26:54:20" />
<Chapter titleTimeBegin="01:29:59:00" />
</ChapterList>
<TrackNavigationList>
<AudioTrack track="1" selectable="true" langcode="en:00" />
<AudioTrack track="2" selectable="true" langcode="fr:00" />
<SubtitleTrack track="1" selectable="true" forced="false" langcode="*:00" />
<SubtitleTrack track="2" selectable="true" forced="false" langcode="*:00" />
<SubtitleTrack track="3" selectable="true" forced="false" langcode="*:00" />
<SubtitleTrack track="4" selectable="true" forced="false" langcode="*:00" />
</TrackNavigationList>
</Title>

[Pelican9]

This is first evo for the fountain

Opening file feature_fountainn6ff1_hd.EVO
Reading...
File size: 6974 Mbytes.
VOB number 0 contains 1 video , 2 audio and 4 subpicture streams.
PTM of first video frame = 00001603
PTM of last video frame = 0ED4AE00
Duration = 0:46:04.595

66307 counted frames (0:46:05.554) in video stream 0.
66284 calculated frames in video stream 0.


this is second evo

Opening file feature_fountainn6ff1_hd_Divide.EVO
Reading...
File size: 7149 Mbytes.
VOB number 0 contains 1 video , 2 audio and 4 subpicture streams.
PTM of first video frame = 000029EB
PTM of last video frame = 10410B22
Duration = 0:50:29.860

72664 counted frames (0:50:30.694) in video stream 0.
72644 calculated frames in video stream 0.

here is the xpl

<Title id="feature" titleNumber="2" type="Advanced" selectable="true" titleDuration="01:36:51:55" onEnd="black" alternativeSDDisplayMode="letterbox" >
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" clipTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" titleTimeEnd="00:46:01:50" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/feature_fountainn6ff1_hd.MAP" seamless="false" description="" >
</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
<PrimaryAudioVideoClip titleTimeBegin="00:46:01:50" clipTimeBegin="00:00:00:00" titleTimeEnd="01:36:28:40" src="file:///dvddisc/HVDVD_TS/feature_fountainn6ff1_hd_Divide.MAP" seamless="true" description="" >
</PrimaryAudioVideoClip>
</Title>

As you can see these are two independent EVOs. The PTS values in the second EVO started again from zero not continued from the last PTS of the first EVO.
You cannot merge these files without adjusting all PTS/DTS values in all PES headers of the second EVO.
I have to figure out something...

[mlansell]

Turn on PMs or send the XPL to my mail (you can find on my site). Thanks.

I sent you mail (so I hope you got it!)

Mal

[Zagolski]

Perfect lossless LPCM 5.1 to FLAC conversion
It's really easy but has taken me quite a few hours to get it all right.

Programs needed:
xport by drmpeg @doom9
http://www.w6rz.net/xport.zip

sox v13.0.0
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sox

Wavewizard 0.45b
http://www.rarewares.org/wavewiz/wavewizardv0.54b.zip

MediaCoder 0.5.1
http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/download.htm

flac 1.1.4
http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html


Step 1 - Extract the LPCM stream from Blu-ray
xport -h movie.m2ts 1 3 2

Explaination:
"1 3 2" selects program 1, video stream 3 and audio stream 2.
Since video stream 3 does not exist you will only demux audio (change to 1 if you want video as well).
The LPCM stream should most often be number 2.


Step 2 - Map channels
sox -B -r48000 -t .raw -c 6 -2 -s bits0001.mpa file.wav

Start Wavewizard and enter channel mapping (F2).
- Create a new mapping "0 1 2 5 3 4".
- Select your new mapping.
- Click "Enable channelmapping"
- Click "Convert" and create a new file.

Explaination:
The channels in the LPCM file are mapped "L,R,C,BL,BR,LFE" as opposed to "L,R,C,LFE,BL,BR". This is corrected with Wavewizard but in order for it to accept the file you need to use sox first.


Step 3 - Encode your FLAC
- Install MediaCoder 0.5.1. Make sure you replace "flac.exe" under the "codecs" directory so you get version 1.1.4.
- Drag and drop your file(1).wav to the MediaCoder window.
- Under Audio select "FLAC" as Encoder and press F5 to start the encode.

Explanation:
FLAC doesn't like 4+ GB wave files but somehow it works with MediaCoder.


Step 4 - Enjoy your FLAC
Enjoy your new FLAC!

May I sugest using mkvmerge (http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/) to mux your FLAC with your video stream to a Matroska container.

Help!
I did everything as here napimano, but at pressure on the button Convert an error is given out in Wavewizard, that pizdets (step 2) - this file is not recognized by wavewizard... :(

[tebasuna51]

Help!
I did everything as here napimano, but at pressure on the button Convert an error is given out in Wavewizard, that pizdets (step 2) - this file is not recognized by wavewizard... :(

Yes, seems sox have a little bug writing the WAVE_FORMAT_EXTENSIBLE header:
D:\Programa\Audio\0\file.wav 11520080 bytes
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ChunkID .....: RIFF
ChunkSize ...: 11520060 Error: must be FileLength - 8 = 11520072
Format ......: WAVE
...

But, don't worry, WaveWizard can be instructed to ignore the error:
Edit -> Preferences -> Ignore size in header -> Always

[Zagolski]

tebasuna51
Thanks!


If to play one file .m2ts, the choice of DTS is inaccessible... Why does it take place? How to do, that was DTS accessible? Help!

[qubic]

Hi

I have a strange problem.

I'm rebuilding the Manchurian Candidate, under Linux. That meens EVOdemux (v.0.262) under wine. And use Mplayer.
So fare, there is only DTS(-HD), but no DD+ codec for Linux. VC-1 is fine too.

If I play the full movie (all sub-streams), I hear the Commentary track (which should be DD+ acording to XPL).
If I remove everything in EVOdemux, except VC-1 and the first english track (DD+). I get the usual sound glitches, when there is no DD+ codec(it tries the incompatible DD codec).
If I remove everything but VC-1 and the second english track (DTS-HD). I get this error:

[root@dhcppc0 film]# mplayer FEATURE_1_FEATURE_2.rebuilt.EVO
MPlayer dev-SVN-r23390-4.1.1 (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team
CPU: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor 3400+ (Family: 15, Model: 44, Stepping: 2)
CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 1 3DNow2: 1 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 3DNow 3DNowEx SSE SSE2

Playing FEATURE_1_FEATURE_2.rebuilt.EVO.
MPEG-PS file format detected.
Searching for VC1 sequence header... found
VIDEO: VC-1 1920x1080, 29.970 fps, header len: 33
==========================================================================
Requested video codec family [wmvvc1dmo] (vfm=dmo) not available.
Enable it at compilation.
Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
Selected video codec: [ffvc1] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg M$ WVC1)
==========================================================================
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 6 ch, s16le, 1536.0 kbit/33.33% (ratio: 192000->576000)
Selected audio codec: [ffdca] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg DTS)
==========================================================================
AO: [oss] 48000Hz 6ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
Starting playback...
[dca @ 0xe16f20]Not a valid DCA frame
[dca @ 0xe16f20]Not a valid DCA frame
[dca @ 0xe16f20]Not a valid DCA frame000 1/ 1 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
VDec: vo config request - 1920 x 1080 (preferred colorspace: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
Movie-Aspect is 1.78:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
VO: [xv] 1920x1080 => 1920x1080 Planar YV12
[ASPECT] Warning: No suitable new res found!
[ASPECT] Warning: No suitable new res found!
[ASPECT] Warning: No suitable new res found!
[dca @ 0xe16f20]Not a valid DCA frame001 2/ 2 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
[dca @ 0xe16f20]Not a valid DCA frame000 3/ 3 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
[dca @ 0xe16f20]Not a valid DCA frame000 4/ 4 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
[dca @ 0xe16f20]Not a valid DCA frame000 4/ 4 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
[dca @ 0xe16f20]Not a valid DCA frame000 4/ 4 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
.
.
[dca @ 0xe16f20]Not a valid DCA frame000 4/ 4 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
[dca @ 0xe16f20]Not a valid DCA frame000 4/ 4 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
[dca @ 0xe16f20]Not a valid DCA frame000 4/ 4 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
[dca @ 0xe16f20]Not a valid DCA frame000 4/ 4 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
A: 0.5 V: 0.1 A-V: 0.349 ct: -0.000 4/ 4 ??% ??% ??,?% 0 0
Exiting... (Quit)
[root@dhcppc0 film]#

Which just continous, with counting frames.

Has anybody seen this before???


regards qub

[qubic]

Hi again

I went into WinXP and tried to remove everything, except vc-1 and the first english track.
I don't see anything in PowerDVD 6.5 (I guess the parser in PDVD is not good enough), but I hear the Commentary, which should be the fifth track?!?!?

I parse the rebuilded .EVO file in EVOdemux, but can't (un)select anything. Everything is grey, with no checkmark.
Is this normal?

regards qub.

[Badness]

Is there a filter to load a eac3 file directly into a avisynth script without using graphedit?

[SpAwN_gUy]

Is there a filter to load a eac3 file directly into a avisynth script without using graphedit?I guess not..
well.. i think no .dll, that reads eac3-fileand decodes it internally..

if your DShowFilters are installed correctly,.. you can try DirectShowSource()
you can test that in graphedit ( ;) ) .. by "Render Media file" option. if the proper chain of filters will connect automatically and you will hear Sound ... so then.. you have installed everything right :)
i think..

[Warren]

Hi

I have a strange problem.

I'm rebuilding the Manchurian Candidate, under Linux. That meens EVOdemux (v.0.262) under wine. And use Mplayer.
So fare, there is only DTS(-HD), but no DD+ codec for Linux. VC-1 is fine too.

If I play the full movie (all sub-streams), I hear the Commentary track (which should be DD+ acording to XPL).
If I remove everything in EVOdemux, except VC-1 and the first english track (DD+). I get the usual sound glitches, when there is no DD+ codec(it tries the incompatible DD codec).
If I remove everything but VC-1 and the second english track (DTS-HD). I get this error:



Which just continous, with counting frames.

Has anybody seen this before???


regards qub

FFMPEG's VC-1 decoder is not ready for primetime yet.

Requested video codec family [wmvvc1dmo] (vfm=dmo) not available.
Enable it at compilation.

Recompile mplayer with the referrred codec enabled and it might work.

[qubic]

FFMPEG's VC-1 decoder is not ready for primetime yet.



Recompile mplayer with the referrred codec enabled and it might work.

Sorry, if I didn't explain myself well.

VC-1 is working fine. I was talking about the sound.
It just depends which sound type I use. Which I think is strange.

And what is a DCA frame??

--qub

[Warren]

Sorry, if I didn't explain myself well.

VC-1 is working fine. I was talking about the sound.
It just depends which sound type I use. Which I think is strange.

And what is a DCA frame??

--qub

Just so you know, you will get artifacting with FFMPEG's VC-1 decoder, generally in the form of incorrect macroblocks (you'll know what I'm talking about when you see it).

As for audio, there are no opensource decoders for the codecs commonly in use on HD DVDs and BLU Ray discs (Dolby TruHD, Dolby Digital Plus aka E-AC3, and DTS HD)

[akatitan]

first of all hi to everyone as this is my first post.

Pelican9,

Can you help me? when i use evodemux to demux .vob files it will only demux the first two .vob files. i have tried renaming the files, and even renamed them .evo files. i am using the latest build .626.

[starkhouse33]

any updates for the issues with evodemux and the fountain.
thanks

[qtx999]

Hello,


I reencoded the DTS HD into AC3 using tranzcode and Sonic Foundry.


can you describe this method? I am trying to convert a dts-hd track to ac3 without much success...
I used tsremux to isolate the dts-hd track (it was around 4GB when done), then tranzcode which recognized the stream and extracted 6 separate wavs all around 1.1GB...The resultant data doesn't seem like it's correct, when I convert these to ac3 (I have several methods, sonic foundry, wav to ac3) all I get are squeeks and static...did I miss a step?

TIA!