EVOB De/Multiplexers [Archive] - Page 14

enantiomer

27th February 2007, 20:27

TSReader shows me only 2 audio tracks and 2 video tracks. I assume that the second video is in fact LPCM track but how to extract this whole track to one file?

Yes, the 2nd "video track" should be LPCM. I'm not sitting in front of a PC with TSReader, so this is only a rough outline from memory:

1. Choose file.dll as your source, and open the m2ts file.
2. Choose File -> Stop Source. This will cause TSReader to stop playing the m2ts file.
3. There is a pulldown menu to Record PIDs. Choose the PIDs you want to record, select the option to record to separate files, and it will prompt you for a folder to demux the PIDs into.
4. Choose File -> Restart source, and TSreader will demux your PIDs starting from the beginning of the m2ts file.

Beyond that, I'm not sure how to manipulate the binary LPCM file. It probably is NOT raw LPCM but will likely be in some kind of elementary stream container with PTS, etc.

toxik

27th February 2007, 20:35

edit: n/m, i fixed it by muxing it to mkv

tomos

27th February 2007, 21:22

you have to enable wvc1 decoder in ffdshow.
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/3261/ffdshowpj1.th.jpg (http://img243.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ffdshowpj1.jpg)
( http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941 , get the latest one )
Both decoder work for me. Don't know which one is better.

I don't have the cpu to test playback anyway :)

tried it but it doesnt work for me. i checked the filters used in mpc and its always sonics. if i unregister those then i get no playback at all.

tried choosing libavcodec and wmv9 in both vfw and video decoder configs - no joy.

Jan2001

27th February 2007, 23:42

you have to put the movie in a mkv container. Like written few posts up :)

Thanks, works fine now. I'd say wmv9 decoder is better as libavcodec still can't decode artifactfree.

All we need now is a way to decode DD+.

idamien

28th February 2007, 05:22

@holzi

Thanks, working fine now...

MichalHabart

28th February 2007, 07:28

Yes, the 2nd "video track" should be LPCM. I'm not sitting in front of a PC with TSReader, so this is only a rough outline from memory:

1. Choose file.dll as your source, and open the m2ts file.
2. Choose File -> Stop Source. This will cause TSReader to stop playing the m2ts file.
3. There is a pulldown menu to Record PIDs. Choose the PIDs you want to record, select the option to record to separate files, and it will prompt you for a folder to demux the PIDs into.
4. Choose File -> Restart source, and TSreader will demux your PIDs starting from the beginning of the m2ts file.

Beyond that, I'm not sure how to manipulate the binary LPCM file. It probably is NOT raw LPCM but will likely be in some kind of elementary stream container with PTS, etc.

Yes, this worked and i now have 4GB file that can not be played :) It seems to be some sort of binary PCM but what to do with it now it's mistery to me :(

drmpeg

28th February 2007, 07:38

Yes, this worked and i now have 4GB file that can not be played :) It seems to be some sort of binary PCM but what to do with it now it's mistery to me :(
You should be able to use Goldwave to play the samples, but you can only play 2 channels at once. I have a tool to extract a channel pair, but a short (50 to 100 MB) sample of a .m2ts with LPCM would be good to test with.

I've also updated xport to demux LPCM streams:

http://www.w6rz.net/xport.zip

Ron

MichalHabart

28th February 2007, 09:32

You should be able to use Goldwave to play the samples, but you can only play 2 channels at once. I have a tool to extract a channel pair, but a short (50 to 100 MB) sample of a .m2ts with LPCM would be good to test with.

I've also updated xport to demux LPCM streams:

http://www.w6rz.net/xport.zip

Ron

Hi, thnaks for fast respond. I tried your newest version of xport but i still get only 2 audio tracks, LPCM is missing. Is there any tool to show me if this track is really in there and what number he has?
Or if you have something that can split m2ts file, i can send you this sample

Edit: I used your head tool and now i have 50MB of sample file. Where do you want me to upload it?

idamien

28th February 2007, 10:35

Hi again,

I had some free time the last few days and I decided to write my first guide: a very simple and short guide to backing up HD-DVD VC-1 discs (video only for now) to x264 using only free software under Windows Vista (it might work on XP)... Mainly for people who want to backup their HD-DVDs but don´t have the time to browse and/or read the forums...

Can I put it up here on Doom9? How do I go about doing that?

Thanks...

foxyshadis

28th February 2007, 10:41

Put it in a zip and attach it to a post, or upload it to free webspace (like googlepages) and offer a link. Uploading it saves waiting time for attachment approval, makes it easier to browse, and makes it indexable by search engines, though.

idamien

28th February 2007, 11:00

Is there a specific thread to post the .zip file to or should I post it here with a request to be put on the Guides section?

Thanks.

MichalHabart

28th February 2007, 11:07

Is there a specific thread to post the .zip file to or should I post it here with a request to be put on the Guides section?

Thanks.

I think you can post it here.

drmpeg

28th February 2007, 11:26

Hi, thnaks for fast respond. I tried your newest version of xport but i still get only 2 audio tracks, LPCM is missing. Is there any tool to show me if this track is really in there and what number he has?
Or if you have something that can split m2ts file, i can send you this sample

Edit: I used your head tool and now i have 50MB of sample file. Where do you want me to upload it?
Can you try this one?

http://www.rogepost.com/

Ron

idamien

28th February 2007, 11:37

OK...

Here it goes: HD-DVD to x264 (video only) using free software under Windows Vista. Written by idamien.

Can someone please post this guide on the "Guides" section???

Thanks a lot.

MichalHabart

28th February 2007, 11:38

Can you try this one?

http://www.rogepost.com/

Ron

OK, sample is here:
http://www.rogepost.com/n/1781324427

Hopefully it will be usefull for you. According to info there should be 3 audio tracks, 1 LPCM and 2 DD.

idamien

28th February 2007, 11:40

Sent the file to "Roge Post" with address http://www.rogepost.com/n/7035144398
...

Is this right?

MichalHabart

28th February 2007, 11:40

OK...

Here it goes: HD-DVD to x264 (video only) using free software under Windows Vista. Written by idamien.

Can someone please post this guide on the "Guides" section???

Thanks a lot.

And what about that zip file? I can't see any attachment ;)

idamien

28th February 2007, 11:43

Were you able to download it???

Please advise...

MichalHabart

28th February 2007, 11:51

Were you able to download it???

Please advise...

Yes and i've already went thru :)
Probably would be good for Vista user (if there are any)

idamien

28th February 2007, 11:55

Can it be posted in the Guides section???

Daodan

28th February 2007, 12:05

For me, xport worked well on all titles with LPCM I tried. The not so well part is that I am unable to play it or otherwise open it with anything. Is it because of the fact it's 24 bit or some missing header etc? (hmm, tried only on samples, maybe I should try on a full title).

foxyshadis

28th February 2007, 12:25

Can it be posted in the Guides section???

Only if it's vetted by Doom9 first, you'll need to PM him. Presumably the community can edit and expand/improve if necessary beforehand.

Pelican9

28th February 2007, 13:05

Were you able to download it???

Please advise...
Good work!

Is this the right folder name?

C:\Movie\Rip\HDDVD_TS\ (or C:\Movie\Rip\HVDVD_TS\)

The last pic is missing. I mean, I see only a word 'pic' .

kuklitis

28th February 2007, 13:14

Were you able to download it???

Please advise...
>>>>>>>>
I also went through the guide and can say that it's decent job for the starter !
but I think that usage proportion Vista vs. XP right now is like 1:20, so the guide for XP is much more necesary ! :)
Anyway I think there are very minor changes in XP considering this guide if there is some at all ...
And we can get out stereo sound already and it is only wise to show how to incorporate this stereo together with video, cause there will be around 20% (my vague estimate :rolleyes: ) that would be satisfied with stereo only and no need for 5.1 or better ...

agentusa

28th February 2007, 13:58

Stereo sound would be very useful. I'm sure I'm not the only one that's going to be converting my HD-DVD's into 720p x264 with 2 channel audio so they can be played by an Apple TV.

MichalHabart

28th February 2007, 14:10

Stereo sound would be very useful. I'm sure I'm not the only one that's going to be converting my HD-DVD's into 720p x264 with 2 channel audio so they can be played by an Apple TV.

I have to disagree with you. i am also converting HD-DVD to 720p but i would love to have also 5.1 sound (DTS would be the best choice)

idamien

28th February 2007, 14:36

Hi again...

Sorry, insomnia caught up with me and I had to crash for a few hours... I´m on holidays here in my country and thus the spare time.

Yes, you are right, there is a pic missing... I´ll fix it and post the .zip file again... About the audio conversion: has anyone been able to extract 5.1 sound out of the DD+ tracks? I think that only stereo from and HD-DVD won´t be very satisfying for most people... Then again, I may be wrong...

About putting the guide in the Guides section, how do I go about getting Doom9 to approve of it? Do you guys have any suggestions for adding or changes other than sound? I was thinking about already uploading the guide with instructions for the subtitle tracks, but I can´t get SUPRead to work withouth giving Memory Access Violation errors in Vista, so...

What do you think? Thanks...

Pelican9

28th February 2007, 14:49

idamien

28th February 2007, 15:20

Hi Pelican9 and thanks for the great work with EVODemux and SUPRead!!!

Yes, it´s HDDVD_TS (not HVDVD_TS)... I´m fixing it now... thanks!

As for pic 5: are you referring to the pic with the "Read EVO" button highlighted??? Do you really think it´s not necessary?

agentusa

28th February 2007, 15:29

I have to disagree with you. i am also converting HD-DVD to 720p but i would love to have also 5.1 sound (DTS would be the best choice)

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that 5.1 sound would not be useful. But for now, if we can convert DD+ to stereo, I would like to see it in the guide. Thanks.

drmpeg

28th February 2007, 15:42

OK, sample is here:
http://www.rogepost.com/n/1781324427

Hopefully it will be usefull for you. According to info there should be 3 audio tracks, 1 LPCM and 2 DD.
Very useful. Here's the latest version of xport with tested LPCM demuxing. For now, it creates a 2-channel raw audio file that can be read (and played) by Goldwave.

http://www.w6rz.net/xport.zip

This is version 0.93 (I just started counting at 0.9).

For the sample file:

C:\xfer>xport -h head.m2ts 1 1 2
xport Transport Stream Demuxer 0.93
program = 1, video channel = 1, audio channel = 2
Program Number = 0 (0x0000), Program Map PID = 31 (0x001f)
Program Number = 1 (0x0001), Program Map PID = 256 (0x0100)
program descriptor = 0x05, 0x04, 0x48, 0x44, 0x4d, 0x56
program descriptor = 0x88, 0x04, 0x0f, 0xff, 0xff, 0xfc
Video PID = 4113 <0x1011>, type = 0x02
ES descriptor for stream type 0x02 = 0x05, 0x08, 0x48, 0x44, 0x4d, 0x56, 0xff, 0
x02, 0x61, 0x3f
ES descriptor for stream type 0x81 = 0x05, 0x04, 0x41, 0x43, 0x2d, 0x33
ES descriptor for stream type 0x81 = 0x81, 0x04, 0x06, 0x48, 0x0e, 0x00
Audio PID = 4353 <0x1101>, type = 0x80
ES descriptor for stream type 0x80 = 0x05, 0x08, 0x48, 0x44, 0x4d, 0x56, 0xff, 0
x80, 0x61, 0x7f
ES descriptor for stream type 0x81 = 0x05, 0x04, 0x41, 0x43, 0x2d, 0x33
ES descriptor for stream type 0x81 = 0x81, 0x04, 0x06, 0x48, 0x0e, 0x00
Sequence Header found
0 frames before first Sequence Header
Horizontal size = 1920
Vertical size = 1080
Aspect ratio = 16:9
Frame rate = 23.976
Sequence header bitrate = 30000000 bps
Progressive Sequence = 1
First Video PTS = 0x000ffff0
LPCM Audio Mode = 3/2+lfe
LPCM Audio Bits/sample = 16
LPCM Audio Sample Rate = 48000
ts rate = unspecified, video rate = 15194822
packets for pid 0 <0x0000> = 205, first = 1, last = 259620
packets for pid 31 <0x001f> = 22, first = 3, last = 254928
packets for pid 256 <0x0100> = 205, first = 2, last = 259621
packets for pid 4097 <0x1001> = 214, first = 4, last = 259429
packets for pid 4113 <0x1011> = 180949, first = 5, last = 260315
packets for pid 4352 <0x1100> = 8688, first = 246, last = 260283
packets for pid 4353 <0x1101> = 61446, first = 248, last = 260417
packets for pid 4354 <0x1102> = 8688, first = 251, last = 260285
coded frames = 456, video frames = 456

C:\xfer>

You should be able to listen to bits0001.mpa in Goldwave. When it asks you for the raw file format, choose "PCM signed 16 bit, big endian, stereo" and 48000 Rate(Hz).

For multi-channel audio, we'll have to decide what the best raw file format is. Either one file wit all channels, or multiple files with a pair of channels each.

Ron

PurpleMan

28th February 2007, 16:19

Suppose I demux the EVO to VC1/AC3/SUP files, then I reencode the VC1 into an h264 HD-DVD compliant file.

My goal would be to then reauthor (or remux) the h264 to replace the demuxed VC1 and remux h264/AC3/SUP back to a .EVO file to replace the original on the disc.

Hopefully this would mean I could reburn the HDDVD content, only with my reencoded h264 to a DVDR-DL.

the big question is -

how can we generate .MAP file for the new authored/muxed EVO, I managed to make a .EVO with scenarist 4.1, but it only builds it in IFO-based structure, so no .MAPs.

MichalHabart

28th February 2007, 16:40

Very useful. Here's the latest version of xport with tested LPCM demuxing. For now, it creates a 2-channel raw audio file that can be read (and played) by Goldwave.

http://www.w6rz.net/xport.zip

This is version 0.93 (I just started counting at 0.9).

For the sample file:

C:\xfer>xport -h head.m2ts 1 1 2
xport Transport Stream Demuxer 0.93
program = 1, video channel = 1, audio channel = 2
Program Number = 0 (0x0000), Program Map PID = 31 (0x001f)
Program Number = 1 (0x0001), Program Map PID = 256 (0x0100)
program descriptor = 0x05, 0x04, 0x48, 0x44, 0x4d, 0x56
program descriptor = 0x88, 0x04, 0x0f, 0xff, 0xff, 0xfc
Video PID = 4113 <0x1011>, type = 0x02
ES descriptor for stream type 0x02 = 0x05, 0x08, 0x48, 0x44, 0x4d, 0x56, 0xff, 0
x02, 0x61, 0x3f
ES descriptor for stream type 0x81 = 0x05, 0x04, 0x41, 0x43, 0x2d, 0x33
ES descriptor for stream type 0x81 = 0x81, 0x04, 0x06, 0x48, 0x0e, 0x00
Audio PID = 4353 <0x1101>, type = 0x80
ES descriptor for stream type 0x80 = 0x05, 0x08, 0x48, 0x44, 0x4d, 0x56, 0xff, 0
x80, 0x61, 0x7f
ES descriptor for stream type 0x81 = 0x05, 0x04, 0x41, 0x43, 0x2d, 0x33
ES descriptor for stream type 0x81 = 0x81, 0x04, 0x06, 0x48, 0x0e, 0x00
Sequence Header found
0 frames before first Sequence Header
Horizontal size = 1920
Vertical size = 1080
Aspect ratio = 16:9
Frame rate = 23.976
Sequence header bitrate = 30000000 bps
Progressive Sequence = 1
First Video PTS = 0x000ffff0
LPCM Audio Mode = 3/2+lfe
LPCM Audio Bits/sample = 16
LPCM Audio Sample Rate = 48000
ts rate = unspecified, video rate = 15194822
packets for pid 0 <0x0000> = 205, first = 1, last = 259620
packets for pid 31 <0x001f> = 22, first = 3, last = 254928
packets for pid 256 <0x0100> = 205, first = 2, last = 259621
packets for pid 4097 <0x1001> = 214, first = 4, last = 259429
packets for pid 4113 <0x1011> = 180949, first = 5, last = 260315
packets for pid 4352 <0x1100> = 8688, first = 246, last = 260283
packets for pid 4353 <0x1101> = 61446, first = 248, last = 260417
packets for pid 4354 <0x1102> = 8688, first = 251, last = 260285
coded frames = 456, video frames = 456

C:\xfer>

You should be able to listen to bits0001.mpa in Goldwave. When it asks you for the raw file format, choose "PCM signed 16 bit, big endian, stereo" and 48000 Rate(Hz).

For multi-channel audio, we'll have to decide what the best raw file format is. Either one file wit all channels, or multiple files with a pair of channels each.

Ron

Thanks for that, i will definitely try. Now the only thing is to find out to what file put multichannel, as you said. I think best will be 6 mono wavs or 1 multiwav, if possible.

Jack-Bauer

28th February 2007, 16:44

I have to disagree with you. i am also converting HD-DVD to 720p but i would love to have also 5.1 sound (DTS would be the best choice)

Hello everybody,

I am surprised that nobody in this forum noticed that the so-called 2.0 output delivered by the IntervideoAudioDecoder is in fact a Dolby Prologic II signal containing all the information needed for channel routing.

Starting from that evidence, it is easy to upmix to 5.1 channels with very good results, see:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57736

I have personally reencoded a couple of HD-DVDs DD+ tracks into AC3-5.1 using this technique.
As the IntervideoAudioProcessorFX is an active filter using patented software from Dolby, the output is like to be the best for such an upmix.

You will be surprised by an excellent centering of the voices as well as excellent surrounding effects. Even did I notice actual stereo in the rear channels. Friends of mine have been completely mistaken by the result ("whouah....such a sound!". No comment...)

Of course, the DirectX 2GB limit can be overcome by splitting the 2.0 track into 50-minute parts prior to upconverting, giving smaller-than-2GB 6-channel wav files. The split 5.1 files are then reassembled in VEGAS, using the 2.0 track for synchro.

Why dont you give it a try?

Pelican9

28th February 2007, 16:59

Yes, it´s HDDVD_TS (not HVDVD_TS)... I´m fixing it now... thanks!

backwards :)

As for pic 5: are you referring to the pic with the "Read EVO" button highlighted??? Do you really think it´s not necessary?

No. pic 5 = 0005.jpg with the Cancel button.

MichalHabart

28th February 2007, 17:05

Hello everybody,

I am surprised that nobody in this forum noticed that the so-called 2.0 output delivered by the IntervideoAudioDecoder is in fact a Dolby Prologic II signal containing all the information needed for channel routing.

Starting from that evidence, it is easy to upmix to 5.1 channels with very good results, see:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57736

I have personally reencoded a couple of HD-DVDs DD+ tracks into AC3-5.1 using this technique.
As the IntervideoAudioProcessorFX is an active filter using patented software from Dolby, the output is like to be the best for such an upmix.

You will be surprised by an excellent centering of the voices as well as excellent surrounding effects. Even did I notice actual stereo in the rear channels. Friends of mine have been completely mistaken by the result ("whouah....such a sound!". No comment...)

Of course, the DirectX 2GB limit can be overcome by splitting the 2.0 track into 50-minute parts prior to upconverting, giving smaller-than-2GB 6-channel wav files. The split 5.1 files are then reassembled in VEGAS, using the 2.0 track for synchro.

Why dont you give it a try?

I tried but what filetype are you using as source for graphedit? and i can't see any filter called IntervideoAudioProcessorFX in my graphedit even if i have intervideo windvd installed :( can you please paste here some sort walkthrought how you actually did this?

MichalHabart

28th February 2007, 17:23

And one more thing, what is MLP audio track? It should some sort of lossless audio, right? Is there some way to decode it to something playable, for example DTS or DD?

Jack-Bauer

28th February 2007, 17:39

I tried but what filetype are you using as source for graphedit? and i can't see any filter called IntervideoAudioProcessorFX in my graphedit even if i have intervideo windvd installed :( can you please paste here some sort walkthrought how you actually did this?

I will be posting a tutorial on BinnewZ (french) by the end of the week and will translate it as soon as possible.

For the intervideo filter, you probably need to get this rev:
Binsearch: Windvd.8.Hd-Dvd.Blu-Ray

In the meanwhile:
http://www.binnewsgroup.com/binnewz/index.php?act=tutorial&CODE=03&id=92
Last part "ENCODAGE AUDIO" to get the 2.0 wav file.

Then the upmix:

FileSource(async) "in-2ch.wav" => WaveParser => IntervideoAudioProcessorFx => WAVdest => FileWriter "out-6ch.wav"

I will provide you with a hard-wired "upmix.grf" file which takes c:\track2.wav and outputs c:\upmix6.wav

This patched GRF file will prevent you from having to HEXedit the output file as required in:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57736

Jack

Darth Pinous

28th February 2007, 17:44

I will be posting a tutorial on BinnewZ (french) by the end of the week and will translate it as soon as possible.

Jack

Merci pour le guide sur Binnews, Jack.
That's good to finally here something out of a DD+ track !

Do you know if it's possible to feed Scenarist Nav Filter directly with a DD+ track (like a ddp file) ?
Does it work for Dolby TrueHD audio tracks too ?

zgx

28th February 2007, 17:53

From what I understand every E-AC-3 stream contains a 640Kbps "AC-3 core" that can be extracted by DD+ capable software.

Most of the DD+ soundtracks on HD DVD movies that I have seen have been at 640Kbps (only a few have been higher).

Am I correct when I assume that audio information found in a 640Kbps E-AC-3 stream is identical to the "AC-3 core" of the same stream?

Pelican9

28th February 2007, 17:54

What about DTS? Why nobody wants to make DTS audio track (where avaiable)?

Pelican9

28th February 2007, 17:55

Am I correct when I assume that audio information found in a 640Kbps E-AC-3 stream is identical to the "AC-3 core" of the same stream?

Shortly: No.
It needs a partially re-encode to get a normal ac3 sound.
PowerDVD can do it during playback...

zgx

28th February 2007, 17:57

And one more thing, what is MLP audio track? It should some sort of lossless audio, right? Is there some way to decode it to something playable, for example DTS or DD?"Meridian Lossless Packing" a lossless compression technique for audio that is the base for Dolby TrueHD. For more information see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_Lossless_Packing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_TrueHD

orbitlee

28th February 2007, 18:22

Well, another DD+ decoder. So we know Intervideo audio decoder outputs 2.0 instead of 5.1.
asasadad_1 mentioned that Sonic decoder pack can work with EVOB/VC1/DD+ at http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=962436#post962436

I tried sonic decoder pack on two PCs, works on one PC, does not work on another PC. No idea what's wrong.

Anyway, I modified DTS/AC3/DD+ source filter which can work with sonic audio decoder. The source filter I posted a few pages eariler does not work(need small tweak). I'm pretty sure the output is real 5.1. You may want to give it a try
http://www.sendspace.com/file/knvhiz

For the sonic decoder pack, PM me please.

Jan2001

28th February 2007, 18:58

Then the upmix:

FileSource(async) "in-2ch.wav" => WaveParser => IntervideoAudioProcessorFx => WAVdest => FileWriter "out-6ch.wav"

Thanks for your ideas, but that connecting filesource and waveparser crashes graphedit. Any idea why?
Furthermore I do not have a filter called wavdest? Where to get from?

MichalHabart

28th February 2007, 19:01

What about DTS? Why nobody wants to make DTS audio track (where avaiable)?

I always use DTS track if it is available.

And thatswhy i am interested how to decode MLP or LPCM because it can be passed into DTS :)

Jack-Bauer

28th February 2007, 19:22

Thanks for your ideas, but that connecting filesource and waveparser crashes graphedit. Any idea why?
Furthermore I do not have a filter called wavdest? Where to get from?

Try loading your 2.0 wav into filesource(sync), then click-right on the output pin and render it. Just keep the first two filters and delete the rest. Then try to connect the leftover output pin to the IntervideoAudioProcessorFx filter.

WAVdest.ax is part of the graphedit pack. You just have to register it in a DOS-like window:
regsvr32.exe wavdest.ax

Jack

zgx

28th February 2007, 19:31

What about DTS? Why nobody wants to make DTS audio track (where avaiable)?I think that 1,509 Mbps DTS is the best sounding multichannel signal that can be sent over an S/PDIF interface (please correct me if I'm wrong here). If that is the case it's what I would like on most backups if the source has a lossless audio track.

Hwindu

28th February 2007, 19:34

"Meridian Lossless Packing" a lossless compression technique for audio that is the base for Dolby TrueHD. For more information see:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_Lossless_Packing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_TrueHD

I’ve been looking into MLP track, it’s not a regular MLP as it was in DVD- Audio.

A bunch of DVD Audio authoring software out there wouldn’t recognize the MLP extracted with EVODemux. I think it’s encapsulated into Dolby TrueHD format somehow and as we know, there is no Dolby TrueHD software decoder yet.

If we’ll be able somehow decode this track, we would be able to encode it to another lossless multichannel codec like FLAC or WMA and add it to a new container, and play on computer without HDMI.