EVOB De/Multiplexers

[orbitlee]

It does, when it comes out of AC3Filter or the Cyberlink Audio Decoder. But that file out of dtscore had all sorts of problems, including (but not limited to) a very subtle "beep" (for lack of a better word) in the left main channel.

S.


That's really weird. I asked one of my friend to check U-571 HD DVD again. The DTS audio track in U-571 is just plain DTS, not DTS-HD. The original size of DTS audio track is 1,314,614,644 bytes, we can get correct runtime(116min) from this size. After processed by dtscore, still same size, since there is no DTS-HD extension at all. And I also asked my friend to binary compare the input and output, 100% match. So I have no idea why you will get poor quality output. Maybe your source is corrupted?

[MichalHabart]

That's really weird. I asked one of my friend to check U-571 HD DVD again. The DTS audio track in U-571 is just plain DTS, not DTS-HD. The original size of DTS audio track is 1,314,614,644 bytes, we can get correct runtime(116min) from this size. After processed by dtscore, still same size, since there is no DTS-HD extension at all. And I also asked my friend to binary compare the input and output, 100% match. So I have no idea why you will get poor quality output. Maybe your source is corrupted?

Orbitlee, btw how are thing going on with newer version of your filter? will it support also truehd decoding? ;)

[madshi]

@orbitlee, I hope I don't get on your nerves, but honestly, I'd much prefer a version of your DD+ filter which wouldn't connect to conventional AC3/DTS at all. I'd prefer that even over a totally fixed and completely working DD+/AC3/DTS filter. Why? Because having a DD+ only filter would give me the choice to use whatever (other) filter I want to use for AC3/DTS. More choices are good. And there are plenty working AC3/DTS filters. Hope you'll consider that. Thanks for your work!! :)

[orbitlee]

@MichalHabart: do we have a working truehd decoder filter now? :rolleyes:

@madshi: To disable something is easier than to make something work. So here it is, the DD+ only source filter. :)

updated, see post #1207

[MichalHabart]

@MichalHabart: do we have a working truehd decoder filter now? :rolleyes:


Unfortunately not even cyberlink or sonic are able to play TrueHD at the moment :( we have to wait :(

[madshi]

@MichalHabart: do we have a working truehd decoder filter now? :rolleyes:

@madshi: To disable something is easier than to make something work. So here it is, the DD+ only source filter. http://www.sendspace.com/file/lwvvmi :)
Thanks so much!!!!!!!!

[orbitlee]

Thanks so much!!!!!!!!

madshi, I want to confirm your requirement and my understanding. Currently this DD+ only source filter will refuse to open any AC3/DTS audio files, it only open DD+ audio. But it may connect to any downstream audio decoder filter, including ac3filter(not working of course) or sonic audio decoder 4.2(will work), unless you raise sonic audio decoder's merit or force DD+ source filter to connect to sonic audio decoder. I still don't know how to query the name of downstream audio decoder.

Here is another update, I included both version, DD+ only and full functiontional DTS/AC3/DD+. If you want to compile by yourself, use preprocessor macro DDPLUS_ONLY.
For the full functional version, I tested ac3filter and sonic audio decoder, with the following samples: AC3 192K, 384K, 448K, 640K, DTS 768K, 1536K, and some DD+. All samples work, and the runtime are also correct, at least on my system.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ce77vr

[ACrowley]

THX

Nice, the new "Full" Source Filter works perfect.
Opens AC3/DTS/EAC3 with correct Runtime

In MKV too. With previous Version i had a Problems with AC3 and EAC3 in mkv. i had Acces violations when i switch from EAC3 to AC3.
Now its perfect

THX!

[Momber]

load the m2ts into gdsmux, mux it to mkv with gdsmux
But how? The Haali Muxer doesn't accept DTS-HD either.
I want to keep my DTS-HD, not throw anything away outside of "the core", not reencode the audio. At some time in the near future we may be able to make use of the full information contained in DTS-HD, it would be a shame to discard that.
All I want to do is to join the two m2ts files (which play nicely in ZoomPlayer with Cyberlink demux and AC3Filter btw) into one continuous file.

S.

[Momber]

I also asked my friend to binary compare the input and output, 100% match. So I have no idea why you will get poor quality output. Maybe your source is corrupted?
Of course I can't rule that out. After all, U-571 was one of those titles that EVOdemux failed on with /rebuild. So I used /demux and that's how I got my DTS. If that is "regular" DTS (and you're right - I just confirmed it) and was demuxed correctly, I shouldn't have had any trouble playing it, or even remuxing it, and I wouldn't have seen the need to try dtscore. That is weird indeed.

Anyway, the "experts" write that the DD+ track of U-571 bests the DTS so I'll just patiently wait for an improved version of EVOdemux that can handle rebuilding this title (and a few others like it - I just heard "Happy Feet" is another addition to the list).

S.

[madshi]

madshi, I want to confirm your requirement and my understanding. Currently this DD+ only source filter will refuse to open any AC3/DTS audio files, it only open DD+ audio. But it may connect to any downstream audio decoder filter, including ac3filter(not working of course) or sonic audio decoder 4.2(will work), unless you raise sonic audio decoder's merit or force DD+ source filter to connect to sonic audio decoder. I still don't know how to query the name of downstream audio decoder.

Here is another update, I included both version, DD+ only and full functiontional DTS/AC3/DD+. If you want to compile by yourself, use preprocessor macro DDPLUS_ONLY.
For the full functional version, I tested ac3filter and sonic audio decoder, with the following samples: AC3 192K, 384K, 448K, 640K, DTS 768K, 1536K, and some DD+. All samples work, and the runtime are also correct, at least on my system.

http://www.sendspace.com/file/ce77vr
Thanks again for the update... :)

I still don't know how to query the name of downstream audio decoder.
Hmmmm... The filter has a "CheckMediaType" method now. I guess you'd need to add a "CheckConnect" method. In that method you'd receive the Ac3Filter input pin as a parameter and could reject the connection for E-AC3. Just guessing, though. I've not much experience in DirectShow programming.

[misdecrypt]

Any chance EVO Demux could output a chapter file that I could use with megui/mkvmuxer? Thanks.

[Jasch]

Hello ,first of all thanks for this great thread, and tools you created.

I have tried a lot around and so far HDDVD(h264) to Mkv is solved for me.
Plays fine with bsplayer ore any directshowplayer.(Coreavc+ac3filter+sonic audio decoder)
MKV includes orig. h264,dd+,AC3 german Stream.

My steps

Demux with evodemux.
h264 stream mux to mp4 with yamb(set framerate)
mp4 + ddp +ac3 german(had to make 25to23fps and a little bit syncing with delaycut )
mux with mkvtoolnix(ddp track has to set as default).

(Reencode dd+ to ac3 or dts also works, but i stay with dd+ maybe later is an option for this)

Now i wanted try VC1, but im stuck in remux to mkv, tried the solution from page 7 get only mkv a few KB big.
(Playback VC1 in Graphedit is fine).
Im using Elecard 1.0.77 build 60823 and haali muxer 1.7.100.18.

IF someone has an idea, it would be nice.

(Sorry for my wired englisch)

[madshi]

Now i wanted try VC1, but im stuck in remux to mkv, tried the solution from page 7 get only mkv a few KB big.
(Playback VC1 in Graphedit is fine).
Im using Elecard 1.0.77 build 60823 and haali muxer 1.7.100.18.
Use the latest Haali Media Splitter instead of Elecard.

[Jasch]

thanks seems to be working ,have to try full evo.

[Jasch]

Ok full evo is working, but did not go to avi, because mkv is full playable(and seekable(much faster than x264)) through ffdschow(WMC1 =WMV9).

So plays fine in bsplayer.

Thanks so far for you help so x264 +vc1 is ok for me now, now i can look after bluray.

[_xxl]

Ok full evo is working, but did not go to avi, because mkv is full playable(and seekable(much faster than x264)) through ffdschow(WMC1 =WMV9).

MS WVC1 is multithreaded and DXVA.Libavcodec h.264 decoder is not.That's why it is slow.

[Jasch]

Yes but for x264 i dont use ffdschow i use Coreavc pro wich is MT.
When i seek there ist takes a while before its playing.
With VC-1 plays instandly.

[ACrowley]

i have a DTS HD 1536kbps 5.1 Track from IceAge2 BlueRay

Must be "real" DTS HD...the demxed File (dgmpeg) is 2.48Gb and shows Runtime 3.h55min

After dtscore extraction i get a 5.1 1536kbps plane DTS .
Runtime 1h31min04sek and 982MB

I also tried Besliced fixing. Bescliced can extract the DTS core too? Because i get a working 1536kbps 5.1 out from bescliced.
Also 982Mb .Runtime is little bit different 1h3058min

mhhh...

[MichalHabart]

i have a DTS HD 1536kbps 5.1 Track from IceAge2 BlueRay

Must be "real" DTS HD...the demxed File (dgmpeg) is 2.48Gb and shows Runtime 3.h55min

After dtscore extraction i get a 5.1 1536kbps plane DTS .
Runtime 1h31min04sek and 982MB

I also tried Besliced fixing. Bescliced can extract the DTS core too? Because i get a working 1536kbps 5.1 out from bescliced.
Also 982Mb .Runtime is little bit different 1h3058min

mhhh...

And delaycut is also able to do this. But i would trust dtscore.

[Chumbo]

...xport -h2 movie.m2ts 1 1 2...


Just curious, is the 2 in -h2 a typo or is the 2 a hidden feature? I tried it just to see and it's an unsupported function.

[drmpeg]

Just curious, is the 2 in -h2 a typo or is the 2 a hidden feature? I tried it just to see and it's an unsupported function.
It's a feature of the latest version (0.94).

http://www.w6rz.net/xport.zip

The -2 option demuxes just the left and right channels for Blu-Ray LPCM audio.

Ron

[yonta]

@drmpeg
Is there any way to set output dir when demuxing with xport?
and output filenames if possible?

[tomos]

unless drmpeg has changed something, the only way to do this is to put the executable in your win\sys32 folder. you can then call it from wherever.

i.e, your transport stream is say on your C drive. in a dos prompt, go to wherever you want the demuxed files to go and then run xport from there. the files end up wherever you run the command from.

so:

d:\ > xport -h c:\whatever the ts file is 1 1 1

files are demuxed to the D drive

[yonta]

aha, that's the trick!
xport outputs to the current dir wherever the source file is!
thank you, tomos.

[ACrowley]

And delaycut is also able to do this. But i would trust dtscore.


Video (23.976) and sync DVD Audio is 1h30m36sec

I tried to extract the DTScore from the IceAge 2 BlueRay DTS HD 5.1
Results :

dtscore : 1h31m4sec
bescliced:1h30m58sec
delacut : 1h12min3sec

And all extracted dts 1536kbps 5.1 are "asnyc" ...strange
DVD Audio ,DTS and AC3 ,is 100% sync


Must be coming from dtscore Or dgindex demuxing ?!
I try to demux it with latest xport

EDIT:
No, the same Problem with Xport demuxed DTS.
DTScore.exe outputs a 1h31min04sec instead of 1h30min36sec

The m2ts Mpeg2 Stream has 23.976fps!
Also strange is ,that sample cut from the middle of the Movie is sync .
Anyone here with the same Problems with the DTS HD Track?

[tomos]

aha, that's the trick!
xport outputs to the current dir wherever the source file is!
thank you, tomos.

no worries :)

[Chumbo]

It's a feature of the latest version (0.94).

http://www.w6rz.net/xport.zip

The -2 option demuxes just the left and right channels for Blu-Ray LPCM audio.

Ron
Aha, I thought I had the latest version. Doh!

May I request the version number be included in the blurb that displays the usage? Many thanks. :)

[EDIT] I thought I'd help out and do the easy stuff for you if you decide to use it. :)
fprintf(stderr, "xport version 0.94\n\n");
fprintf(stderr, "Usage:\n");
fprintf(stderr, "\txport <-pavtdszgh2> <infile> <program number> <video stream number> <audio stream number>\n\n");
fprintf(stderr, "The output files are always named bits0001.mpv for video and bits0001.mpa for audio\n");
fprintf(stderr, "(note that bits0001.mpa can be an AC-3 file). Unless the -n option is used, the demuxer\n");
fprintf(stderr, "will time align the beginning of the two elementary streams so that a remux to PS or back\n");
fprintf(stderr, "to TS will have correct A/V sync.\n\n");
fprintf(stderr, "Options:\n");
fprintf(stderr, "\tp = parse only, do not demux to video and audio files.\n");
fprintf(stderr, "\ta = dump audio PTS.\n");
fprintf(stderr, "\tv = dump video PTS.\n");
fprintf(stderr, "\tt = GOP timecode mode, count repeated fields/frames.\n");
fprintf(stderr, "\td = dump all PID's (useful for debugging muxers, but tons of output).\n");
fprintf(stderr, "\ts = suppress TS rate dumping (useful when piping output to a file).\n");
fprintf(stderr, "\tz = demux to PES streams (instead of elementary streams).\n");
fprintf(stderr, "\tg = dump ATSC PSIP information.\n");
fprintf(stderr, "\th = input file is in HDMV (AVCHD and Blu-ray) format (192 byte packets)\n");
fprintf(stderr, "\t2 = only extract 2 channels of HDMV LPCM audio from multi-channel tracks.\n");

[Chumbo]

@drmpeg
Is there any way to set output dir when demuxing with xport?
and output filenames if possible?
Why do you keep asking the same question over and over when it was answered once already here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=971606#post971606).

Now another person has to give the same answer and waste resources. If you ask a question, come back and check for an answer.

[IanD]

Unfortunately not even cyberlink or sonic are able to play TrueHD at the moment :( we have to wait :(
That's interesting: I played a bit of Harry Potter GOF HD-DVD with PDVD 6.5 and the assistance of AnyDVD HD and was able to cycle through the audio tracks. I left it on Dolby TrueHD for a while and was getting what seemed to be 5.1 audio with a variable speed of between 1500kbps and 2000kbps according to the PDVD info onscreen. I was definitely hearing a different soundtrack as the volume went up a little when toggling from DD5.1 to TrueHD.

Also curious is that attempting to select the TrueHD soundtrack via the disc menu, I got a warning dialogue saying the player was not compatible with TrueHD.

If PDVD 6.5 is not decoding TrueHD, then what is it doing and which soundtrack is it using?

[zgx]

That's interesting: I played a bit of Harry Potter GOF HD-DVD with PDVD 6.5 and the assistance of AnyDVD HD and was able to cycle through the audio tracks. I left it on Dolby TrueHD for a while and was getting what seemed to be 5.1 audio with a variable speed of between 1500kbps and 2000kbps according to the PDVD info onscreen. I was definitely hearing a different soundtrack as the volume went up a little when toggling from DD5.1 to TrueHD.

Also curious is that attempting to select the TrueHD soundtrack via the disc menu, I got a warning dialogue saying the player was not compatible with TrueHD.

If PDVD 6.5 is not decoding TrueHD, then what is it doing and which soundtrack is it using? I have experienced the same thing. I get the warning message but then you get the audio and the variable bitrate (often very high). The way I see it there are two possibilities:

1. That PDVD does not play TrueHD (as the warning message would suggest) and you are listening to some other soundtrack and the bitrate displayed is bugged.

2. You are indeed listening to the TrueHD soundtrack. Sounds most likely.

[MichalHabart]

I have experienced the same thing. I get the warning message but then you get the audio and the variable bitrate (often very high). The way I see it there are two possibilities:

1. That PDVD does not play TrueHD (as the warning message would suggest) and you are listening to some other soundtrack and the bitrate displayed is bugged.

2. You are indeed listening to the TrueHD soundtrack. Sounds most likely.

The only audio tracks that have variable bitrate are TrueHD and DTS-HD. But unfortunately PowerDVD does not have public filter to be used in graphedit :(

[MichalHabart]

Shit. I have no idea what went wrong but i was able to use eac3to.exe without any problem. But now i always receiver this error: Parsing of Dolby Digital headers failed.

Any ideas what is wrong?

[madshi]

Shit. I have no idea what went wrong but i was able to use eac3to.exe without any problem. But now i always receiver this error: Parsing of Dolby Digital headers failed.

Any ideas what is wrong?
It means that the E-AC3 track either isn't a E-AC3 track or that it's not beginning with a valid E-AC3 header. Do you have this problem with one specific movie, only? Or with all movies you're trying now? And can you actually play those E-AC3 tracks?

[MichalHabart]

It means that the E-AC3 track either isn't a E-AC3 track or that it's not beginning with a valid E-AC3 header. Do you have this problem with one specific movie, only? Or with all movies you're trying now? And can you actually play those E-AC3 tracks?

No, i can't play it and it is about one movie, Harry Potter 4 hddvd.

Edit: ddp track seems to be fine and i am also having problems to play any other ddp tracks. And if i put them into graphedit in chain dd+ source--sonic audio decoder 4.2--dump i will have dump with 0 bytes. I remember something similar happened before to someone, does anzone know how to fix it?

[madshi]

No, i can't play it and it is about one movie, Harry Potter 4 hddvd.

Edit: ddp track seems to be fine and i am also having problems to play any other ddp tracks. And if i put them into graphedit in chain dd+ source--sonic audio decoder 4.2--dump i will have dump with 0 bytes. I remember something similar happened before to someone, does anzone know how to fix it?
I'm confused: You say "ddp track seems to be fine", which seems to contradict everything else you're saying. Anyway, if "dd+ source -> sonic audio decoder 4.2 -> dump" gives you 0 bytes, I can at least say that my eac3toac3 tool is not at guilt... :)

[MichalHabart]

I'm confused: You say "ddp track seems to be fine", which seems to contradict everything else you're saying. Anyway, if "dd+ source -> sonic audio decoder 4.2 -> dump" gives you 0 bytes, I can at least say that my eac3toac3 tool is not at guilt... :)

Yes, definitely. problem seems to be in sonic decoder. i am not able to set cinepack to Dolby Digital 5.1 :(

[ACrowley]

Shit. I have no idea what went wrong but i was able to use eac3to.exe without any problem. But now i always receiver this error: Parsing of Dolby Digital headers failed.

Any ideas what is wrong?

I had some Problems with demuxed eac3 from evodemux.

On KingKong EAC3 1536kbps 5.1 for example

The Full Lenght demuxed EAC3 wasnt recognized by EAC3to.

The fix was easy.
I demuxed the Audio seperatly only from Feature1.evo and from Feature2.evo
Both single Parts works fine

[MichalHabart]

I had some Problems with demuxed eac3 from evodemux.

On KingKong EAC3 1536kbps 5.1 for example

The Full Lenght demuxed EAC3 wasnt recognized by EAC3to.

The fix was easy.
I demuxed the Audio seperatly only from Feature1.evo and from Feature2.evo
Both single Parts works fine

This is not problem of evodemux but sonic decoder pack. i am not able to play even those DD+ tracks i have already trancoded to AC3. But at least intervideo audio decoder is working instead of sonic audio decoder. Hopefully the result will be good.

[Chumbo]

I found for reliable audio decoding, using the filter chain with the Sonic HD Muxer always works w/out any problems. Give that a try.

- load graphedt
- use File Source (Async) to load the ddp file
- add Sonic HD Muxer and connect file output to muxer input
- add Sonic Audio Decoder and connect muxer output to decoder input

That should work perfectly for you. :)

[ACrowley]

This is not problem of evodemux but sonic decoder pack. i am not able to play even those DD+ tracks i have already trancoded to AC3. But at least intervideo audio decoder is working instead of sonic audio decoder. Hopefully the result will be good.

Intervideo outputs only "real" 2ch !!

When Intervideo Audio Decoder is at 5.1 its a kind of upmix.
There are postings about in this Thread

[MichalHabart]

Intervideo outputs only "real" 2ch !!

When Intervideo Audio Decoder is at 5.1 its a kind of upmix.
There are postings about in this Thread

Unfortunately, i know that too. But dd+->sonic audio decoder->dump is not working for me, even directsound is not working. I think i will need to restore my OS :(

[woah!]

or use the DirectShow Filter Manager here: http://www.softella.com/dsfm/index.en.htm

and maybe raise the merit of the filters you need and lower the ones that might be set now. its a use at your on risk app but i find it very handy..

[ACrowley]

or use the DirectShow Filter Manager here: http://www.softella.com/dsfm/index.en.htm

and maybe raise the merit of the filters you need and lower the ones that might be set now. its a use at your on risk app but i find it very handy..


yes, sure. but in graphedit youre selecting the Decoders/Filtesr manually, so the Merit plays no Role.

Sometimes a fresh OS installation is the last Way

@MichaleH
Are you sure your using Sonic 4.2 Decoder ?

[MichalHabart]

yes, sure. but in graphedit youre selecting the Decoders/Filtesr manually, so the Merit plays no Role.

Sometimes a fresh OS installation is the last Way

@MichaleH
Are you sure your using Sonic 4.2 Decoder ?

I have solved my little problem. I had to uninstall Sonic Decoder 4.2 and install Sonic Scenarist 4.1 (with decoder 4.1) and then install again Sonic decoder 4.2. Now i am able to decode dd+ tracks again. But still Harry Potter DD+ is refusing to be decoded after it demuxed from evo file with evodemux. But it can be decoded when i join both evo files and extract raw dd+ directly from it.

[ACrowley]

sadly i have Problems again with DTS HD

The DTS core 1536kbps is async sometimes and again with wrong runtime after dtscore processing.

Runtime should be 2h27mmin.33sec
But its 4 sec to short

[tomos]

this may have been posted before (this thread is a little long now with various sub topics going on).

anyone else found that when demuxing the extras, that the audio is identified as DDP but if it's paired with mpeg-2 video then it is really AC3? if the vids VC-1 then it's DDP

there were a few extras in some movies that i wanted to recompress and the usual way wouldnt work. renamed the extension to ac3 and threw the track into belight and there we go!

[tomos]

Perfect lossless LPCM 5.1 to FLAC conversion
It's really easy but has taken me quite a few hours to get it all right.

Programs needed:
xport by drmpeg @doom9
http://www.w6rz.net/xport.zip

sox v13.0.0
http://sourceforge.net/projects/sox

Wavewizard 0.45b
http://www.rarewares.org/wavewiz/wavewizardv0.54b.zip

MediaCoder 0.5.1
http://mediacoder.sourceforge.net/download.htm

flac 1.1.4
http://flac.sourceforge.net/download.html


Step 1 - Extract the LPCM stream from Blu-ray
xport -h movie.m2ts 1 3 2

Explaination:
"1 3 2" selects program 1, video stream 3 and audio stream 2.
Since video stream 3 does not exist you will only demux audio (change to 1 if you want video as well).
The LPCM stream should most often be number 2.


Step 2 - Map channels
sox -B -r48000 -t .raw -c 6 -2 -s bits0001.mpa file.wav

Start Wavewizard and enter channel mapping (F2).
- Create a new mapping "0 1 2 5 3 4".
- Select your new mapping.
- Click "Enable channelmapping"
- Click "Convert" and create a new file.

Explaination:
The channels in the LPCM file are mapped "L,R,C,BL,BR,LFE" as opposed to "L,R,C,LFE,BL,BR". This is corrected with Wavewizard but in order for it to accept the file you need to use sox first.


Step 3 - Encode your FLAC
- Install MediaCoder 0.5.1. Make sure you replace "flac.exe" under the "codecs" directory so you get version 1.1.4.
- Drag and drop your file(1).wav to the MediaCoder window.
- Under Audio select "FLAC" as Encoder and press F5 to start the encode.

Explanation:
FLAC doesn't like 4+ GB wave files but somehow it works with MediaCoder.


Step 4 - Enjoy your FLAC
Enjoy your new FLAC!

May I sugest using mkvmerge (http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/) to mux your FLAC with your video stream to a Matroska container.

tried this just now. the wav file made by sox is playable but wavewizard wont accept it

error - This file is not recognized by wavewizard.

copied and pasted the commands just in case too :(

[yonta]

tried this just now. the wav file made by sox is playable but wavewizard wont accept it

error - This file is not recognized by wavewizard.

copied and pasted the commands just in case too :(

same here. so, I tried this and it worked.

after converting to .wav using SOX, wrote a script like this:

DirectShowSource("file.wav")
GetChannels(1,2,3,6,4,5)

then, I fed the script to BeHappy.

[zgx]

tried this just now. the wav file made by sox is playable but wavewizard wont accept it

error - This file is not recognized by wavewizard.

copied and pasted the commands just in case too :(I wrote a guide on Blu-ray to MKV remuxing.. there is a chapter on FLAC in there with some improvments.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=124080