DVD Rebuilder (One-Click Beta) Bug Reports - v0.30+

[wmansir]

Originally posted by Gunner-GoNad
How do I change this. When I click on it IFOEDIT says Item not editable.

You can do this on the main "VTS overview" page that IFOEDIT displays upon opening an .IFO.

It is right near the top under "Title Set (movie) attributes", just double click on the "VIDEO: MPEG-2 720x480 ...." line and a window will pop up.

[Gunner-GoNad]

Originally posted by wmansir
You can do this on the main "VTS overview" page that IFOEDIT displays upon opening an .IFO.

It is right near the top under "Title Set (movie) attributes", just double click on the "VIDEO: MPEG-2 720x480 ...." line and a window will pop up.

Thanks wmansir. Once I changed those settings in the IFO and made the ISO image everything played perfect at the correct aspect ratio.


@jdobbs
I guess it's not updating the IFO correctly. Other than that the conversion works perfect. Looks great and works perfect for my 16:9 TV. Job well done. Thanks again for the support.

-Gunner-GoNad!

[jdobbs]

@Gunner-GoNad,

What version of DVD-RB did you use to make the conversion? There was a bug fix in v0.34.

[Centurione]

Hi, this is my first post and so hello everybody and thank you for all the useful information I got from this forum.

Now a special thanks to jdobbs for its application and for all the works he puts in it.

Now to the subject.
I started using DVD RB since version 0.21, but I always found a problem with subtitles on my standalone, not present when playing on the PC (WinDVD or PowerDVD)

So my last backup
Film: "The Monk", region R2 (PAL)
Encoder: QEnc 0.45
RB version v0.31 ( the problem was present also before )

Everything went fine, no problem at all (except an undersize, probably due to QEnc).
Seen on the PC everything was fine, I checked also subtitles (I am not an english speaker, but I like to listen films in original language, 90 % of what I see is in english, and switch on english subtitle to avoid loose too much, slang, etc ...).
Then I burnt on a DVD-RW disk and checked on my standalone ( a budget AMSTRAD 2320, that till now was able to display almost everything), and I found that I was able to select subtitles, the player showed them as present, but nothing was visibile.

Then I tried another backup with DVD-Shrink (quality was obviously inferior) but when burnt and played in this copy the subtitle were visible.

Then I made another trial ( I do not know how much valid ) and I took some of the VOB from the DVDShrink backup and inserted them into the DVD RB backub, I then used IfoEdit to correct VTS Sectors and burn this copy. Everything worked (perhaps I was lucky) and on the VOBs from DVDShrink the subtitles were present, not on the one from DVD-RB ( the IFos were the ones from the DVD-RB backup).

I am now in the process of doing another backup with 0.35 (it will take a while with my PIII/600) and now I am at work, I will check if the problem is still present.

The question is just to understand if this problem is just for my standalone (and so I will leave with that) or is present also for other people and other kind of standalones.

Thank you for the attention (and also for my poor english).

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Gunner-GoNad
Thanks wmansir. Once I changed those settings in the IFO and made the ISO image everything played perfect at the correct aspect ratio.


@jdobbs
I guess it's not updating the IFO correctly. Other than that the conversion works perfect. Looks great and works perfect for my 16:9 TV. Job well done. Thanks again for the support.

-Gunner-GoNad! Thanks for the excellent test and feedback. I just found the bug that caused it not to update. It's fixed and will be in 0.36. This is what betas are all about. But, that's twice I've had to fix that one... I'm getting a little sloppy in my old age.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Centurione
Hi, this is my first post and so hello everybody and thank you for all the useful information I got from this forum.

Now a special thanks to jdobbs for its application and for all the works he puts in it.

Now to the subject.
I started using DVD RB since version 0.21, but I always found a problem with subtitles on my standalone, not present when playing on the PC (WinDVD or PowerDVD)

So my last backup
Film: "The Monk", region R2 (PAL)
Encoder: QEnc 0.45
RB version v0.31 ( the problem was present also before )

Everything went fine, no problem at all (except an undersize, probably due to QEnc).
Seen on the PC everything was fine, I checked also subtitles (I am not an english speaker, but I like to listen films in original language, 90 % of what I see is in english, and switch on english subtitle to avoid loose too much, slang, etc ...).
Then I burnt on a DVD-RW disk and checked on my standalone ( a budget AMSTRAD 2320, that till now was able to display almost everything), and I found that I was able to select subtitles, the player showed them as present, but nothing was visibile.

Then I tried another backup with DVD-Shrink (quality was obviously inferior) but when burnt and played in this copy the subtitle were visible.

Then I made another trial ( I do not know how much valid ) and I took some of the VOB from the DVDShrink backup and inserted them into the DVD RB backub, I then used IfoEdit to correct VTS Sectors and burn this copy. Everything worked (perhaps I was lucky) and on the VOBs from DVDShrink the subtitles were present, not on the one from DVD-RB ( the IFos were the ones from the DVD-RB backup).

I am now in the process of doing another backup with 0.35 (it will take a while with my PIII/600) and now I am at work, I will check if the problem is still present.

The question is just to understand if this problem is just for my standalone (and so I will leave with that) or is present also for other people and other kind of standalones.

Thank you for the attention (and also for my poor english). Somewhere in the conversion process there must be a unique and rare set of circumstances that causes this. It doesn't happen often -- but it does happen. I also notice a strange anomaly when I first did "Pirates of the Caribbean." The subtitles came up in French when something with text was shown on the screen ("Beware Pirates...") -- but only then.

[puddy]

Using version .35 with CCE 2.50.
Movie is Brother Bear Disc 2 NTSC.

I chose to do everything as Half D1 except for
the main movie. Main movie turned out great but
all the half height stuff is scrambled.

Here's a screen shot:
http://stuff.wso.net/images/forum_pics/bb_half_d1.jpg

The screen shot was taken with WinDVD v5.3
Platinum. Any ideas?

Awesome utility, thank you! :)

EDIT: I posted this first by mistake as its own
thread and the system wouldn't let me remove it. Now
somebody has replied to that thread. Sorry. :(

[djan]

It is exactly the same problem I have.

[Alex Z]

Originally posted by jdobbs
No, the GOPs shouldn't. The timestamps shouldn't match either (they couldn't unless it was an identical GOP structure) -- it is newly authored from scratch. But the frame count should match in each cell -- and the TFF/RFF pattern should be identical.

@jdobbs

Observation:

Comparing source .vob files and RB's in dvd2avi shows the following:

(Comparing the same timeline. Somewhere 12-13min from the start of the movie. Movie: What women want. R1 NTSC)

Source 23.976 (Film)
RB's output is 98%-99% film.

Could this be a reason for stuttering?

[Joergen]

Could that be an overlay problem with the lines? I remember from the DivX days that some cards couldnt handle a rez. Take a screenshot in DVD2AVI in RGB MODE (so its not using overlay.. choose RGB inside DVD2AVI).

[Alex Z]

Originally posted by djan
It is exactly the same problem I have.


Maibe resolution in .ecl file does not match with resolution in .avs?

[dancis]

I tried terminator 2 last night and i still get the buffer overflow errors 003/004 with v0.35

Can someone tell me what i am doing wrong ?

this is my config:

[Paths]
Source=H:\VIDEO_TS\
Working=E:\FILM\
CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\EclCCE.exe
MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
[Options]
DynamicBitrate=1
CCE=1
[CCEOptions]
VBR_bias=30
Quality_prec=24
eclPasses=5

i removed all old lines in regedit and then reinstalled everything again.

[dvdRENEGADE]

jdobbs,
I looked over the .ecl being created by DVD-RB. I'm using CCE cce2.67.00.23 trial with eclcce. The biggest thing I notice in .ecl creation is using the old "top_first" instead of the new "offset_line=0" to set field order. Also, missing from the created .ecl's [item] section was "panscan=0" and "uscc=0". In the [file] section, it was missing "type=0".
Hope this helps,
dvdRENEGADE

[onesoul]

@jdobbs

I tried at last DVD-RB and I think it is beautiful.
One thing I detected is that LPCM audio I deselected doens't go away, I rebuilded with that mistake, the output size went fine. Then to verify I noticed that bitrate wouldn't change at process stage if I selected/deselected the LPCM but it would change if the AC3 was removed. DVD-RB can't handle LPCM for now?
The way you handle source film now is brilliant :)
I agree with ddogg to be able to insert some filter(s) if you wish, the undot() doesn't hurt for example (don't think the same about temporalsoften though but it would be user's choice anyway).

Cheers

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by puddy
Using version .35 with CCE 2.50.
Movie is Brother Bear Disc 2 NTSC.

I chose to do everything as Half D1 except for
the main movie. Main movie turned out great but
all the half height stuff is scrambled.

Here's a screen shot:
PICTURE WAS HERE

The screen shot was taken with WinDVD v5.3
Platinum. Any ideas?

Awesome utility, thank you! :)

EDIT: I posted this first by mistake as its own
thread and the system wouldn't let me remove it. Now
somebody has replied to that thread. Sorry. :( That appears to be an error message from AVISYNTH. It gets skewed because the framerate is not correct. Open one of the converted AVS files directly with Windows Media Player and see what message it is giving.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Alex Z
@jdobbs

Observation:

Comparing source .vob files and RB's in dvd2avi shows the following:

(Comparing the same timeline. Somewhere 12-13min from the start of the movie. Movie: What women want. R1 NTSC)

Source 23.976 (Film)
RB's output is 98%-99% film.

Could this be a reason for stuttering? That definitely isn't right. They should match exactly. What DVD-RB version are you using? I'm all over this... if it can point me toward the stuttering I'll be overjoyed.

[djan]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That appears to be an error message from AVISYNTH. It gets skewed because the framerate is not correct. Open one of the converted AVS files directly with Windows Media Player and see what message it is giving. Hi, I have the same problem. When I open the avs file, it's played fine.

[Alex Z]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That definitely isn't right. They should match exactly. What DVD-RB version are you using? I'm all over this... if it can point me toward the stuttering I'll be overjoyed.

The latest... .35
CCE 2.67
Source: unmodefied iso
dvd2avi 1.76.

Let me know if more info is needed.

[mosher2k]

Hi,

i have tested RB 0.35 with the PAL DVD Wacken Open Air.
I noticed that the subtitles are missed after all.
It is interesting to see that if you use the subtitle button
of the remote while playing the video the player recognizes the language of the two possible subtitles but doesn't show them.

Thanks for your big efforts to develop this great tool !

Mosher2k

[djan]

Hi,

I'm using DVDRB since the beginning and it's the first time I'm getting the run-time error '9'. It appears in the beginning of the prepare process before doing anything. I can take a shot if you wish. I'm using DVDRB 0.35 with CCE 2.50 and the movie is HERO.

Thx.

EDIT : Prepare process and not rebuild. Sorry.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by onesoul
@jdobbs

I tried at last DVD-RB and I think it is beautiful.
One thing I detected is that LPCM audio I deselected doens't go away, I rebuilded with that mistake, the output size went fine. Then to verify I noticed that bitrate wouldn't change at process stage if I selected/deselected the LPCM but it would change if the AC3 was removed. DVD-RB can't handle LPCM for now?
The way you handle source film now is brilliant :)
I agree with ddogg to be able to insert some filter(s) if you wish, the undot() doesn't hurt for example (don't think the same about temporalsoften though but it would be user's choice anyway).

Cheers I don't think I have a DVD with LPCM to test. But I thought it packetized with a private stream header just like AC3 -- and assumed I could select and remove it..

Does anyone know of any special consideration I have to give a LPCM stream? Maybe its ID is in an odd format (like DTS)?

[dancis]

Originally posted by mosher2k
Hi,

i have tested RB 0.35 with the PAL DVD Wacken Open Air.
I noticed that the subtitles are missed after all.
It is interesting to see that if you use the subtitle button
of the remote while playing the video the player recognizes the language of the two possible subtitles but doesn't show them.

Thanks for your big efforts to develop this great tool !

Mosher2k

I have the same problem , and i still haven't found what is causing it.
Maybe it is a player issue , because on my samsung they don't show and on a cheap player their is no problem and everything works

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dancis
I have the same problem , and i still haven't found what is causing it.
Maybe it is a player issue , because on my samsung they don't show and on a cheap player their is no problem and everything works I have an idea as to what might be causing it -- a shortcut I took. I've put it on my list.

[Joergen]

Keep up the good work.

See, how many tools deserve their OWN forum at doom9? Not many!

[CiViC]

just fyi, CCE crashes with a still frame on the Fushigi Yuugi Season 1 and 2 dvd's...

[Rombaldi]

@jdobbs

ok, found something bizzare here. As I said, I've used RB to 'fix' (both black level and 'oversize') some homemade discs that were recorded with both a Panasonic and Philips DVD Recorder and sat down to watch some today and see a problem..

it APPEARS that either RB isn't reading or the original MPEG streams aren't setting/indicating the Top/Bottom field first properly. On all that I've done, there is the distinctive 'flicker' of a field order wrong on panning scenes. This is NOT present in the original.

if you PM me, I'll send you both an original and an RB's of an example (since these are homemade's, I see no issue with that).

[dvdRENEGADE]

Originally posted by Rombaldi
@jdobbs

ok, found something bizzare here. As I said, I've used RB to 'fix' (both black level and 'oversize') some homemade discs that were recorded with both a Panasonic and Philips DVD Recorder and sat down to watch some today and see a problem..

it APPEARS that either RB isn't reading or the original MPEG streams aren't setting/indicating the Top/Bottom field first properly. On all that I've done, there is the distinctive 'flicker' of a field order wrong on panning scenes. This is NOT present in the original.

if you PM me, I'll send you both an original and an RB's of an example (since these are homemade's, I see no issue with that).

What version of CCE are you using? I've noticed that the .ecl created by DVD-RB is using the old "top_first" instead of the new "offset_line=0" used by newer versions of CCE to set field order. I'm not sure if that is responsible for the flicker problem or not.
dvdRENEGADE

[Rombaldi]

Originally posted by dvdRENEGADE
What version of CCE are you using? I've noticed that the .ecl created by DVD-RB is using the old "top_first" instead of the new "offset_line=0" used by newer versions of CCE to set field order.

2.50

[Gunner-GoNad]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Thanks for the excellent test and feedback. I just found the bug that caused it not to update. It's fixed and will be in 0.36. This is what betas are all about. But, that's twice I've had to fix that one... I'm getting a little sloppy in my old age.

Hey No prob. Thanks for making the best DVD 9 to DVD 5 tool out there. You're tool makes all others crawl on thier knees and beg for mercey! Hahaha.

One more thing. When it does convert from 4:3 to 16:9 does it change the res from 704x480 to 720x480? Cause when I manually changed it in IFOEDIT I changed it to 720x480 because the other way looked a little strange.

Thanks Again.
Gunner-GoNad!

[quantum]

Regarding the subtitles issue, for the first time I noticed what appeared to be subtitles out of position. They were too low on the screen and the last line was almost cut off. I'm unsure if this is a dvdrb issue but thought I'd post it in case it may be helpful.

[tf]

Regarding subtitles:

I just did a backup of my newly bought Black Books Season 2 (PAL R2), and it all turned out wonderfully, much like it should. Subtitles were working fine and not placed wrong. The first episode originally had subtitles both in the upper and lower half of the picture (in order not to obscure view of other text), and they worked like they should.

-tf

[Joergen]

About subtitle shifting. I remember dvdshrink being accused of the same thing, but it only happened with some specific player using the 4:3 setting (vertical squeeze). And I would imagine it is more prone to happen using the 4:3 setting than the "native" 16:9 on an anamorphic disc. At least I've never seen subs shifted and I always use an 16:9 tv.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Gunner-GoNad
Hey No prob. Thanks for making the best DVD 9 to DVD 5 tool out there. You're tool makes all others crawl on thier knees and beg for mercey! Hahaha.

One more thing. When it does convert from 4:3 to 16:9 does it change the res from 704x480 to 720x480? Cause when I manually changed it in IFOEDIT I changed it to 720x480 because the other way looked a little strange.

Thanks Again.
Gunner-GoNad! I was't changing it. But since the output of the LanczosResize() command is 720 wide, I guess I should.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by tf
Regarding subtitles:

I just did a backup of my newly bought Black Books Season 2 (PAL R2), and it all turned out wonderfully, much like it should. Subtitles were working fine and not placed wrong. The first episode originally had subtitles both in the upper and lower half of the picture (in order not to obscure view of other text), and they worked like they should.

-tf Subtitles go through DVD-RB untouched.

[tf]

Apart from Closed Captions not being supported, and the strange problem with "The Eye" (PAL R2) in which subtitles disappeared when it changed from chapter 10 to 11 (a restart of the chapter worked), I've had no probs at all with subtitles :-)

-tf

[Knocks]

I just tried the .35 build and it still gives me the same problem, #0004 Buffer Overflow, as the previous versions. This occurs at Stage III, Processing VTS_01, Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1. I use CCE SP 2.67.

[nwg]

0.36 isn't working.

As soon as click on prepare it comes up with stop statement encountered and exits. It still works with previous versions.

[Paced]

Originally posted by nwg
0.36 isn't working.

As soon as click on prepare it comes up with stop statement encountered and exits. It still works with previous versions.

Same.

[onesoul]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I don't think I have a DVD with LPCM to test. But I thought it packetized with a private stream header just like AC3 -- and assumed I could select and remove it..

Does anyone know of any special consideration I have to give a LPCM stream? Maybe its ID is in an odd format (like DTS)? I checked in ifoedit 0.95, the Linear PCM (2 channel 48Kbps, 16bps quantization) ID is 0xa0. Is there anything else I could check? (I am an ifoedit noob). The DVD is (PAL) Robin Williams Live on Broadway (so damn funny :D ), the LPCM is over 1GByte, lol.
A question, the same DVD has a Jacket_P folder with 3 *.mp2 files of 56 Kb size, I managed to open one and appeared a picture (menu?). What is it?

[Italbar]

Originally posted by nwg
0.36 isn't working.

As soon as click on prepare it comes up with stop statement encountered and exits. It still works with previous versions.

Same here as well.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by onesoul
A question, the same DVD has a Jacket_P folder with 3 *.mp2 files of 56 Kb size, I managed to open one and appeared a picture (menu?). What is it?


It's the Jacket Picture that some players show in their background when you hit stop, or a disc-changer uses it as thumbnails to select a movie.

[kbello]

Originally posted by Paced
Same.

same :(

[onesoul]

Originally posted by Joergen
It's the Jacket Picture that some players show in their background when you hit stop, or a disc-changer uses it as thumbnails to select a movie. My player doesn't show it. Thanks for the enlightenment :)

@jdobbs
I verified in ifoedit the rebuilt dvd and the layer break is still there (didn't check at player), shouldn't it be removed? (It's frustrating to watch a disk with a pause due to layer change when it is single sided, don't you think?). I don't mean to annoy you :)

[brikin]

JDobbs do I need to do all the steps over again with 0.36 or can I just rebuild with files I encoded with 0.35? I am just asking because I am still getting my 004 buffer overflow error by just rebuilding.

Thanks
Brik

[DDogg]

yep, ditto the "stop statement" a few seconds after it starts the prepare sequence. This happens whether source is mounted ISO or file mode, cce or rejig. Should be easy to replicate.

[jdobbs]

My humble apologies to everyone. I hastily loaded the wrong executable into the zip file, uploaded, and went on my merry way. The version that was loaded was used for debugging. Please download Version 0.36a which I've just posted.

Again -- sorry. :(

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by brikin
JDobbs do I need to do all the steps over again with 0.36 or can I just rebuild with files I encoded with 0.35? I am just asking because I am still getting my 004 buffer overflow error by just rebuilding.

Thanks
Brik I made no changes that might affect the 0004 error.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by onesoul
My player doesn't show it. Thanks for the enlightenment :)

@jdobbs
I verified in ifoedit the rebuilt dvd and the layer break is still there (didn't check at player), shouldn't it be removed? (It's frustrating to watch a disk with a pause due to layer change when it is single sided, don't you think?). I don't mean to annoy you :) I'll have to think about that. The term "layer break" that you see in IFOEDIT actually refers an STC discontinuity -- a point at which the clock is reset (usually to 0). It just happens that this sometimes occurs on DVDs at the point where it changes to the other layer. The problem is that if you actually do have a discontinuity, you'll get playback problems (stutter) by removing the flag.

Unlike some other methods that use CCE, I duplicate the form and settings of the original DVD -- including the clock resets when they happen. In order to remove the discontinuity flag I'd have to also make the clock continuous.

[DDogg]

There are two anomalies I noticed in 36a

1> With rejig clearly checked, prepare phase completed. The encode button was pressed and threw an error:"The current selected mode does not match the mode used during "Prepare" - cannot continue."

2> The encode would start if CCE was checked. However, I'm sure due to the above, when I did start encoding the abort button was borked and it threw an error. Even with dvd-rb was killed, instances of CCE kept appearing, so I had to kill rebuilder at a TM level.

Nice to see that length and aspect, thanks much, plus I replied to you on that other thing.

[DMagic1]

1. v.035
2. QuEnc
3. N
4. I got my FIRST runtime error.
Runtime error 5 during rebuilding on the last segment. The m2v was only 1k and was unplayable. The rest of the m2v files were playable. This was on a movie I've done maybe 8 times with DVD-RB with no error. I've used Rejig and CCE on this movie with v.035 with no errors before.