DVD Rebuilder (One-Click Beta) Bug Reports - v0.30+

[quantum]

Originally posted by RB
That is, you also set "Path to MPEG2DEC3DG" in Rebuilder and ticked the "Add to AVS file" option? You shouldn't do this then because this actually loads Mpeg2Dec3Dg.dll twice which could cause problems. The first time it's auto-loaded because it's in the AVISynth plugins directory, the second time because of the LoadPlugin() in the AVS. I'm not sure how AVISynth reacts in this situation. What sort of problems do you think this could cause? Mine is auto loaded, so I don't check the "Add to AVS file" option, but I can see others could easily have done this thinking it was the right thing to do.

[mosher2k]

Hi,

tested v0.44 with LOTR 2 PAL-Version Disc 3 and 4
and both finished with buffer overflows error 0004
while rebuilding.

Disc 4 aborted while rebuilding segment 136 VOBID
137 CELLID 1.

I used cce-mode,one click mode without removing
anything.

Regards,
Mosher2k

[lab-one]

@quantum

What sort of problems do you think this could cause? Mine is auto loaded, so I don't check the "Add to AVS file" option, but I can see others could easily have done this thinking it was the right thing to do.

I have it in the AVISynth plug-ins directory and have it setup in DVD-RB to add to avs file. I...don't have any problems?

Maybe I should uncheck the add to avs option?

[CeanD]

Originally posted by CeanD
Trying .43b now :D

Also, upgraded to CCESP 2.67.00.23 from .11, just to see if that'd do it.

/me crosses fingers.

Still got it(Runtime 9), although on a different VTS during rebuild.

[imd_man]

Hey jdobbs! I've successfully used DVD-RB for about 6 of my DVDs now. It's worked just great! However, they've all been quite simple DVDs (simple structures, no forced subs). So I was just curious, does DVD-RB work with forced subs?

Thanks!

Best

[DDogg]

imd_man, that's not a bug report. There is a comments and suggestions thread. :)

[imd_man]

crap! I'm so sorry! Totally fogot which thread I was in! Too many about this program :) But hey, when it's this cool :)

[wmansir]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.5
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: cce_encode_init() failed
5. Extra info:

I found a setting, at least in one case, which fixes the problem. It had to do with using non_linear=1 on very short, Half-D1 cells.

There is already a thread on this here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74901).

This problem seems to only occur with mutli-pass encoding of Half-D1 clips that are only a few dozen frames long, the longest I encountered it on was 33 frames. I tracked down the problem in the item.ecl and found that by switching non_linear=1 to non_linear=0 the error went away. It also doesn't occur with CBR encodes and it doesn't seem to be a problem for Full-D1 clips.

[jdobbs]

I've found the cause of the previous "Runtime error '9'" and more recent "...no I-Frame for 51 frames" errors. It is related to a DVD Decrypter bug that only occurs when using ISO mode. Which explains whey I had such a hard time repeating it -- I've always used "file" mode until recently. MAKE SURE YOU ARE USING DVD DECRYPTER VERSION 3.2.1.0 or above...

BTW, while I'm on the subject... DVD Decrypter is a GREAT piece of software and deserves donations...

I found this in the DVD Decrypter update log for 3.2.1.0:

Fixed: Big bug in ISO Read mode where files following 0 bytes files weren't decrypted

I went back and checked, and indeed, the problem I encountered was due to the fact that it followed a zero length file. If anyone gets this error UPGRADE YOUR VERSION OF DVD DECRYPTER TO V3.2.1.0.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
OK, now processed two other (PAL) DVDs with 0.41 and again, subtitles work only in a software player, not in my standalone (JVC XV-S300BK).

Could some others (maybe it just happens with PAL?) please try to verify this?

Also, v0.41 didn't remove the layer break from the IFO. jdobbs, what algorithm do you use to identify the true dual-layer break? I looked at a couple of DVDs and it appeared that "Layer Break" seemed to be indicated by the first byte of the cell playback information table being set to "0" indicating a lack of seamless playback but without SCR discontinuity. So I looked for those and set them to 0x8 (seamless playback) -- it fixed it on the test discs. I've since seen that there are also mid-disc "Layer Breaks" that are set to "2" indicating a lack of seamless playback accompanied by SCR discontinuity. I'm not catching these, and am wondering how I can... as there may be many of these that are "legitimate" (it should be set like this every time the SCR goes back to 0 -- which happens all the time...)

Do you have an algorithm you use?

Thanks.

[nwg]

I have also seen many PAL R2 DVD's set to "2".

In the past, I have been usng ifoedit to take these out. I add 8 to the 2 and put in 10. Ones set to 0 then becomes 8.

The ifoedit procedure is -

1. Open the movie's IFO, usually VTS_01_0.IFO, with IFOEdit
2. Note the cell number where the layer break occurs.
3. Note the PGC number, usually PGC_1
4. Expand VTS_PGCITI and select the PGC noted at (3)
5. Scroll down until you find the cell number noted at (2)
6. The very first entry for that cell - cell type - will have some value other than 8.
7. Double click this line and change the value by adding 8 to whatever's there now. Thus, if it's 2 make it 10, if it's 0 make it 8.
8. Save the file.

Every DVD has worked 100% using this method.

Is there anyway to look for this 0 or 2 and just add 8 to it. I hope I have explained it ok, I am not very technical in these aspects compared to other people.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by nwg
I have also seen many PAL R2 DVD's set to "2".

In the past, I have been usng ifoedit to take these out. I add 8 to the 2 and put in 10. Ones set to 0 then becomes 8.

The ifoedit procedure is -

1. Open the movie's IFO, usually VTS_01_0.IFO, with IFOEdit
2. Note the cell number where the layer break occurs.
3. Note the PGC number, usually PGC_1
4. Expand VTS_PGCITI and select the PGC noted at (3)
5. Scroll down until you find the cell number noted at (2)
6. The very first entry for that cell - cell type - will have some value other than 8.
7. Double click this line and change the value by adding 8 to whatever's there now. Thus, if it's 2 make it 10, if it's 0 make it 8.
8. Save the file.

Every DVD has worked 100% using this method.

Is there anyway to look for this 0 or 2 and just add 8 to it. I hope I have explained it ok, I am not very technical in these aspects compared to other people. That works great if you can intuitively look at it and decide which one is the "Layer Break" that needs to be removed. But making a program intuitive is very difficult. Are there any signs, settings, etc. that you look for that show it is the correct cell... The reason I ask is to prevent problems associated with removing true STC discontinuities.

[nwg]

I just look for the layer break that appears through the film's VTS then remember the cell number. There are often lots of other layer breaks shown in the other VTS files, I ignore these. I haven't seen more than one in Ifoedit in the film VTS.

I can see why it is more diffcult for program to do it.

[bobrap]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE basic
3. Using eclCCE? N
4. Bug encountered: cce encoding failed: MPVA VBV ovf frame# 0 (00:00:00:00) I 3956(1.$) rel 3956.00 1.#J qsv 112.00->112.00

After pressing OK:

vinfi_open() failed: Bad data frames=0<C:\KILLBILL_VOL1\D2VAVS\V03000300004001.vaf

Image file is mounted with Daemon tools. One click mode. Dynamically assign cell bitrates and Half D-1/Half Space for extras checked.

Rebuild phase ok. Final size 4.23GB with CCETargetSectors=2286000.

To be honest, I haven't a clue what this means. Just thought I would post in case it is something that someone might need to see.

:thanks:

[daxab]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67
3. EclCCE: 1.7b
4. Bug encountered: Run-time error '9': Subscript out of range
5. Extra info:

Appears during rebuild phase. Would like to post log here, but the program bailed out, and the log was lost.

Source = Kill Bill v1 ISO.

[wmansir]

@bobrap
That's a VBV (video Buffer Verifier) error message. It's usually the result of CCE trying to encode a very complex scene with too small a bitrate. By very complex I'm talking about video "snow" or "static" most of the time, like HBO's opening logo, although I have encountered it with other complex material if I'm using a particularly low bitrate.

Search the CCE forum for VBV error and you'll get a dozen threads on this. Unfortunately there is no quick fix. You can try a newer version of CCE, or try to "tame" the offending section with filters. As a last resort you can cut out the problem section.

[dancis]

I have made my first working copy YES !!!! but subs doesn't work on all stand alone players. Had this problem from the begining i think i have to live with this or i will buy a new dvd player.

[quantum]

You're not the first to have problems with subs. It looks like there may be a problem with subs that does not appear on every player.

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I looked at a couple of DVDs and it appeared that "Layer Break" seemed to be indicated by the first byte of the cell playback information table being set to "0" indicating a lack of seamless playback but without SCR discontinuity. So I looked for those and set them to 0x8 (seamless playback) -- it fixed it on the test discs. I've since seen that there are also mid-disc "Layer Breaks" that are set to "2" indicating a lack of seamless playback accompanied by SCR discontinuity. I'm not catching these, and am wondering how I can... as there may be many of these that are "legitimate" (it should be set like this every time the SCR goes back to 0 -- which happens all the time...)

Do you have an algorithm you use?
I have written a batch file that I use to demux DVDs, and the algorithm I use to identify the layer break is more like an educated guess :) If there's a "layer break", I check whether it's in the largest VTS and therein in the largest PGC. Then if it's the only "layer break" in the PGC (ignoring "layer break" at first or last cell), I decide that this is the dual-layer break :) Not bullet proof, but has worked so far.

The bullet proof method would require access to the original DVD or a mounted ISO. You would send the DVD drive a IOCTL_DVD_READ_STRUCTURE command via DeviceIoControl() API and request return of a DVD_LAYER_DESCRIPTOR structure. The structure has a EndLayerZeroSector member that can be matched against the sector numbers in the IFO. Not sure this call is valid for Win9x.

I'd recommend contacting DVDShrink and Lightning UK! about this.

[RB]

Originally posted by quantum
You're not the first to have problems with subs. It looks like there may be a problem with subs that does not appear on every player. jdobbs is aware of the problem, see http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=479320#post479320 . I'm sure it will be fixed along the way.

[quantum]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I looked at a couple of DVDs and it appeared that "Layer Break" seemed to be indicated by the first byte of the cell playback Or just forget about it. So what if you have a slight pause at the layer break? I never noticed it on my players anyway. I'd rather have that than some work-around that could introduce intermittent side effects.

[Sir Didymus]

Originally posted by TheGame7
I "CCE'd" a DVD and just got round to checking it today and found that it stutters a fair bit - during camera flashes in particular.

The original DVD does not suffer from this problem, nor does the DVD Rip (done via DVDDecrypter).

Any ideas to what could be causing this?

I am using a Bias of 20 and a QP of 16.

Everything else looks like a great encode except for these stutters.

Can I remind you that its happening ON the PC, not been burned to DVD yet nor put in a player..

May I suggest to burn it in any case on a good quality rewritable media, in order to check what happen with a standalone player ?

Lot of factors in a PC may lead to have a poor play of a good DVD...

I know it is time consuming, but if you want to be sure the problem is really there, I would recommend to verify the presence of the problem on a standalone...

[robot1]

DVD-RB 0.44
Encoder: Rejig
Using EclCCE: N
Bug: I've got an error 9 during rebuild phase. It happens at the end of the "rebuilding segment" phase, (before the updating nav-packs one).
I think it could be related to the gop structure of the source: if I encode that segment with Qenc or the demo of CCE the rebuilding finishes without problems.
Every version of DVD-RB I've tried with that DVD (using Rejig) shows this error in the same place.
Let me know if I can give you further informations.
Sorry for my English...

[wmansir]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: TargetSectors= is ignored in .ini

Even though the Readme states that TargetSectors= will still work, it is ignored. I ran a few tests and TargetSectors= did not affect the bitrates used. I also tried CCETargetSectors= and it worked.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by wmansir
1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: TargetSectors= is ignored in .ini

Even though the Readme states that TargetSectors= will still work, it is ignored. I ran a few tests and TargetSectors= did not affect the bitrates used. I also tried CCETargetSectors= and it worked. Are there any conflicting entries in the INI? If there is a "TargetSectors=" and (e.g.) "CCETargetSectors=" both in the INI, the "TargetSectors=" is overridden by the specific one if you are using that encoder.

[jurij]

jdobbs:
1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.023
3. Using eclCCE? Y

Hi, i would like to report a bug win dvd-rb 0.44:
i backuped "the blues brothers" and the bonus material was 1.8 GB.
i decided to do resize bonus to "half D1".
now when i watch the bonus with subtitles, the subtitles are twice as width and the don't fit on screen. i can see only 50% of the subs.
Is there a workaround?

Is there a way to give less bitrate to the extras (trailers...) compared to the default bitrate dvd-rb calculates to use?
Thanx for the good job

edit:
I just noticed the option: "half D1 and half bitrate 4 extras".
Does that mean i still have to choose which VTS to use half D1 and for each of the VTSs i select DVD-RB also halfs the bitrate?

[Paced]

Originally posted by jurij
jdobbs:
1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.023
3. Using eclCCE? Y

Hi, i would like to report a bug win dvd-rb 0.44:
i backuped "the blues brothers" and the bonus material was 1.8 GB.
i decided to do resize bonus to "half D1".
now when i watch the bonus with subtitles, the subtitles are twice as width and the don't fit on screen. i can see only 50% of the subs.
Is there a workaround?

Is there a way to give less bitrate to the extras (trailers...) compared to the default bitrate dvd-rb calculates to use?
Thanx for the good job

Have you tried playing it in your standalone? My subtitles look way off when I use a software player to play back the DVD (when using half D1), but when I put it in my standalones, the subtitles look just like they did on the original.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jurij
jdobbs:
1. DVD-R Version: 0.44
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.023
3. Using eclCCE? Y

Hi, i would like to report a bug win dvd-rb 0.44:
i backuped "the blues brothers" and the bonus material was 1.8 GB.
i decided to do resize bonus to "half D1".
now when i watch the bonus with subtitles, the subtitles are twice as width and the don't fit on screen. i can see only 50% of the subs.
Is there a workaround?

Is there a way to give less bitrate to the extras (trailers...) compared to the default bitrate dvd-rb calculates to use?
Thanx for the good job I have no current plans to resize Half-D1 subtitles. I do plan to, however, provide a method of reducing bitrates of full sized extras.

[jurij]

of course:
Subs are messed up only in that "backup" i made using the "resize half D1" option in the Extras......
subs in the movie are ok and also in the 30 other "backups" i made so far

[jurij]

jdobbs:
so you mean "large subs in half D1" it's a known issue and there is no workaound right?

you already made possible to reduce (half) the bitrate of extras, haven't you?

[Joergen]

Why would a hardware player that uses 720x576/480 at all times need to toy around with the subtitle resolution? I mean, a hardware player has all sorts of GRAPHICS displayed over the video when you press buttons (subs info, angle info, audio etc displays) that are NOT resized to fit any special resolutions (VCD, SVCD etc). Which means the rez on playback is always full and the video itself is scaled, which in turn means subtitles of 720x576/480 should work just fine.

And if they dont, the dvd consortium sure did a sloppy job implementint half-d1 in the first place. :angry:

But it doesnt surprise me if software players (especially PowerDVD) poop themselves with anything but 720 width video.

Has anybody had problems with half-d1 extras and their subs on a STANDALONE? And if so, what make?

[fusion007]

dvd-rb v0.44 cce v2.6 first attempt went ok till near the end where i got an error on kill-bill r2,so i went and got the new version of ecl and avsyinth etc..i started it all again and now as soon as cce opens i get a 1088x56 not supported only 720x576 message any ideas?

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by fusion007
dvd-rb v0.44 cce v2.6 first attempt went ok till near the end where i got an error on kill-bill r2,so i went and got the new version of ecl and avsyinth etc..i started it all again and now as soon as cce opens i get a 1088x56 not supported only 720x576 message any ideas?

That's an avisynth problem. Just download mpeg2dec3dg.dll. Then in RB->Options->Setup set mpeg2dec3dg.dll path and check the add to avs file option.

That should solve your problem.
Bye

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jurij
jdobbs:
so you mean "large subs in half D1" it's a known issue and there is no workaound right?

you already made possible to reduce (half) the bitrate of extras, haven't you? Yes, but only when they have been reduced to Half-D1

[fusion007]

@P3gasus,thanks for your reply u solved my problem what i did wrong was use the MPEG2Dec3dg.dll installed under dvd2vcd presuming it would work which it didnt so i just d/l it and installed sorted!

[dancis]

i made a backup of tomraider2 R2 and got an buffer overflow error 0004 , when i watch the file causing the error , it is a telecine version of deleted scenes

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by fusion007
@P3gasus,thanks for your reply u solved my problem what i did wrong was use the MPEG2Dec3dg.dll installed under dvd2vcd presuming it would work which it didnt so i just d/l it and installed sorted! Now that makes you wonder... does dvd2vcd have a modified version of MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL? It really shouldn't matter.

[alanuk]

DVD Rebuilder v0.44 Beta
CCE Basic Ver.2.67.01.19
eclCCE: No

Bug: At the end of the "rebuilding segment" phase I'm regularly getting an error 9.

[DirtyAbdul]

here are 2 minor "cosmetic" bugs:

1. when you click on the menu "help > readme," the lower part of the readme is cut off. of course, you could just open the rebuilder.txt file directly, but that's why i call it a "cosmetic" bug -- no big deal, just want to report it.

2. CCE basic was minimized at the beginning while encoding, but since i opened it to read the progress report, even the "minimize" option keeps the CCE window open all the time!?! :confused: any suggestion? and again, not a big deal, just wondering.

progs used:
1. DVD-RB v0.44
2. CCE Basic v2.67.01.19

yeah, we'll keep ya busy with all the bug reports, but you're doin' a hell of a job! another $10 is already on the way! :D

DA

[CeanD]

Changed it to 4 passes on a tip. And it fails still, but, at a different point during the rebuild....

Originally posted by CeanD
Still got it(Runtime 9), although on a different VTS during rebuild.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DirtyAbdul
here are 2 minor "cosmetic" bugs:

1. when you click on the menu "help > readme," the lower part of the readme is cut off. of course, you could just open the rebuilder.txt file directly, but that's why i call it a "cosmetic" bug -- no big deal, just want to report it.

2. CCE basic was minimized at the beginning while encoding, but since i opened it to read the progress report, even the "minimize" option keeps the CCE window open all the time!?! :confused: any suggestion? and again, not a big deal, just wondering.

progs used:
1. DVD-RB v0.44
2. CCE Basic v2.67.01.19

yeah, we'll keep ya busy with all the bug reports, but you're doin' a hell of a job! another $10 is already on the way! :D

DA 1. I purposely cut the bottom off the internal readme so it only goes back a certain period. After beta I will probably start the timeline over again.

2. I'll check that out, not sure why...

3. Thanks for the support!

[EddieTH]

DVD-RB 0.44

I was looking at AVS files for my first project with any resizing (LB 4:3 to 16:9) and I noticed that interlaced video is being resized without separating fields first.

[Mr Magic]

Originally posted by Joergen

But it doesnt surprise me if software players (especially PowerDVD) poop themselves with anything but 720 width video.

I just tried it with the R2 version of Oceans's 11. The subs on the extras look a bit 'crushed' when in PowerDVD, but still very well readable. In WinDVD however, the subs are all screwed.


Has anybody had problems with half-d1 extras and their subs on a STANDALONE? And if so, what make?

On my standalone (cheapo Hiteker HE-1800) they work perfectly. In my Xbox the subs look similarly 'crushed' as in PowerDVD, but again very well readable.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by EddieTH
DVD-RB 0.44

I was looking at AVS files for my first project with any resizing (LB 4:3 to 16:9) and I noticed that interlaced video is being resized without separating fields first.

Yep its covered in another thread. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74646&perpage=20&pagenumber=2

[EddieTH]

Originally posted by Joergen
Yep its covered in another thread. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74646&perpage=20&pagenumber=2
Okay, never mind then.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by Mr Magic
[B]

On my standalone (cheapo Hiteker HE-1800) they work perfectly. In my Xbox the subs look similarly 'crushed' as in PowerDVD, but again very well readable.

Good that they work in the cheapo player like they should. The Xbox should be taken as a software player as I believe the video decoding is done by the CPU and video adapter, not a dedicated MPEG2 chip built to handle the standard.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by EddieTH
DVD-RB 0.44

I was looking at AVS files for my first project with any resizing (LB 4:3 to 16:9) and I noticed that interlaced video is being resized without separating fields first. It's been fixed and will be included in v0.45

[jhmac]

Has anyone else had a problem with audio going out of sync when using "Convert LB 4:3 to 16:9"? I posted this before but but got no reply. I did "The Hunt For Red October" and the audio was fine at first but would slowly go out of sync, it would re-sync up at chapter points only to go out of sync again. Any Ideas?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by jhmac
Has anyone else had a problem with audio going out of sync when using "Convert LB 4:3 to 16:9"? I posted this before but but got no reply. I did "The Hunt For Red October" and the audio was fine at first but would slowly go out of sync, it would re-sync up at chapter points only to go out of sync again. Any Ideas? That's an ongoing problem that seems to happen with only certain movies. I am making some changes in 0.45 that may have an affect on that.

[borgraf]

Hiya,

I might've run into a small bug here. I'm not sure if this has been discussed before, maybe it's a "feature"..

When using the "Convert from LB 4:3 to 16:9" option on my latest project "John Carpenter's The Thing" (PAL), only the first subtitle on the list worked. Selecting any of the following subtitles would still display the first one, in this case English. Deactivating worked, and activating any sub worked.. it just displayed english on all of them.

I ran the project again from the same source and with the same settings except for the 4:3 to 16:9 conversion, and then the subtitles worked fine.

Just for the heck of it I ran the project once more with the conversion, and again it would display english no matter what sub was selected.

oops, almost forgot..

0.44
2.67
1.81

Added: DVD-RB is usually very close to target size, except when using the half D1/half bitrate for extras option. I've been getting a steady 4.32-4.35 GB with CCETargetSectors=2251760 (thank you quantum), but when using the mentioned option I get as low as 4.03 GB

Added #2: where are my manners :confused: I love making backups with this prog, thanks for working so hard on it jdobbs!