DVD Rebuilder (One-Click Beta) Bug Reports - v0.30+

[candsh]

AMD 1400GHz
1 Gig RAM
RAID 0

CCE 2.67 (Basic)
RB .42
Master and Commander NTSC 7.54 Gig
Final Size 4.27Gig

Process froze 3 times during CCE encode but resumed after restart without problem. Picture excellent, no stutter on Pioneer DV-C36 in progressive playback. Did have definite "layer break" pause. Used all default settings and default installation procedures according to your instructions. I really think the freezing is my computer's problem. Shut down the network, antivirus and all other apps that I could and finished the encode with no other problems. Rebuild was smooth as silk and Nero had no complaints upoon loading for burn. Playback is through a Sony HD Video Projector (component/ RGB inputs) and projecting an 8' image.

Don't really know anything else to tell you but would kind of like to see the final size up in the 4.3's but no complaints at all about the end results.

Might add that I did not remove DTS and kept all English Audio

[Tobytl]

DVDRB .41 & .42
CCE 2.67
eclCCE 1.8b

Two out of the four dvds I have made with these versions have a strange problem right when the disc comes to the layer break on two of my dvd players. The problem is, right the point where the layer break used to be (well, ifoedit says it still is there) the video becomes very jerky, starts stops speeds up slows down, and sometimes the audio cuts out intermittenly (I know I spelled that wrong...). It will keep on doing this right through till the end of the movie, unless I somehow stop the playback and start it again (puase/play, stop/resume, hell even ffw/play). But if I rewind right to the point of the 'break' and play over it again, the playback gets jerky again.

I only know the model number from one of the glitching players, GE 5803P. I have two of these, both have this problem, neither has hacked firmware. The other player is an old phillips, model number is not displayed and it was a hand me down so no manual.

So far:
Matrix Revolutions - DVD-RB .41 all defualts (except bias and such), layer break stuttering
Kill Bill Vol1 - DVD-RB .41 all defualts (same cce settings changes), no layer break stuttering
Die Hard 2 - DVD-RB .42 all defualts, no layer break stuttering
Die Hard With a Vengance - DVD-RB .42 converted VTS2 to 16:9, has layer break stuttering

Both of the movies when completely redone with .40 have absolutely no problem on any of my players. Methinks this is related to the new code to handle layer breaks that was added in .41, but honestly it could be anything for all I know...

Im running several tests now, rerunning them through with rejig, with disable interlace checked/unchecked for main movie vts, different versions of cce, etc. I'll get back with results.

EDIT: Well, no luck. Rejig and CCE 2.5, with combinations of various options, still stuttering right at the layer break. Also confirmed that Die Hard 3 when run through .40 works great.

Anyway, im setting it up to run another movie through overnight. Even with this slight problem, this is still the best tool I have seen come out in a long time.

[RB]

Originally posted by RB
Hmm, am I the only one having problems with subs in a standalone? Just trying again with v0.41.
As a reminder, so far with every DVD-RB backup I had the problem that subtitles worked only in a software player, not in my standalone.

What I did in an attempt to track down the problem was extracting the raw subtitles from both original and rebuilt VOBs (v0.42) with VsRip. VsRip creates a *.SUB file which is basically a VOB containing only subpicture packets plus headers. Since in theory DVD-RB doesn't touch the subs, the .SUB files should be identical, unless I'm missing something. Anyway, they are not. File size is the same but there are differences in every PACK_HEADER. For example:

Original DVD-RB
-------- ------

Offset Value Offset Value
00000000 00 00 01 BA 44 15 F6 64 00000000 00 00 01 BA 44 15 F6 8F
00000008 5D AF 01 89 C3 F8 00 00 00000008 4C 5D 01 89 C3 F8 00 00

So the differences are in the lower 12 bits of SCR and possibly SCR_Ext. jdobbs, is this normal?

[tf]

RB: Every title had non-working subs? That seems odd, I've done 20-odd rips with DVD-RB, and subtitles have worked fine on: My Pioneer DV343, my Euroline 6588 (or smt), my friends Sony and a buddy's Scott player. Only those movies with Closed Captions had problems with subtitles, but that's natural, since it's not supported yet.

Out of curiousity, what player do you have?

-tf

[RB]

Yes, really odd, I tried 5 or 6 different DVDs so far. Player is a JVC XV-S300BK. I can switch through all the subtitle streams with the remote, they are all there and the OSD shows the selected stream as active, it's just that the subs are never displayed. The original discs work just fine, of course.

[Fr4nz]

RB try other players and see what happens. Maybe it's just a JVC issue.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
As a reminder, so far with every DVD-RB backup I had the problem that subtitles worked only in a software player, not in my standalone.

What I did in an attempt to track down the problem was extracting the raw subtitles from both original and rebuilt VOBs (v0.42) with VsRip. VsRip creates a *.SUB file which is basically a VOB containing only subpicture packets plus headers. Since in theory DVD-RB doesn't touch the subs, the .SUB files should be identical, unless I'm missing something. Anyway, they are not. File size is the same but there are differences in every PACK_HEADER. For example:

Original DVD-RB
-------- ------

Offset Value Offset Value
00000000 00 00 01 BA 44 15 F6 64 00000000 00 00 01 BA 44 15 F6 8F
00000008 5D AF 01 89 C3 F8 00 00 00000008 4C 5D 01 89 C3 F8 00 00

So the differences are in the lower 12 bits of SCR and possibly SCR_Ext. jdobbs, is this normal? Yes, the SCR (System Clock Reference) has to be changed when authoring so you can keep sync. The PTS may also change.

[walkistalki]

RB,

have had a similar issue (last version I tried was .36 though, so will try again)

movie: the mission, pal r2

this movie has default subtitles on.

when playing in my standalone, when i select the subtitles to be off, they continue to be shown.

on pc it works fine

[digitlman]

ive been trying the Eagles Hell freezes over dvd and with the last several versions CCE crashes after finishing segment 6. i can hit close on the error window it it will start on the next segment and finish the dvd. but the rebuild stage will crash rebuilder when it gets to that point.

im running dual p4 xeons with xp sp1
cce sp 2.67.0.23

i made a pic of the windows i will try to ul it, i thought i could but i dont have a http website to put the image on. i will try to find one and edit this i guess.

[RB]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
RB try other players and see what happens. Maybe it's just a JVC issue.
Well, since with the original disc subs work fine, I'd rather call it a DVD-RB issue :). jdobbs, anything I can do to help identifying the problem?

[quantum]

Originally posted by RB
Well, since with the original disc subs work fine, I'd rather call it a DVD-RB issue :). jdobbs, anything I can do to help identifying the problem? You never know what might give some clues till you try it. I'd suggest trying both the original and dvdrb copies in a different player. Then a Shrink version in the JVC.

It would be helpful to know if your output does not display subs on anything, or just your JVC.

[jikchung]

@jdobbs,
I can also confirm that the stuttering is gone for me as of v0.42. Still gettig the elapsed time/no chapter # update with FF/RW. That's not an issue for me though, just for your info.
Thanks for a great product.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RB
Well, since with the original disc subs work fine, I'd rather call it a DVD-RB issue :). jdobbs, anything I can do to help identifying the problem? I know I had a wierdness associated with subs that was on my "when I get to it list"... it is associated with the NAVPACK's subpicture sync table. It appeared to be working ok -- so it stayed down the list...

[Centurione]

Hi all,
from some RB posts, now I see that he has my same identical problem, I signalled several posts ago.
Also for me in all my backups the subs are only visible in SW players not in standalone players ( I have a budget AMstrad 2320 player, so I do not think it is only related to JVC).
On a couple of title I solved the problem extracting the subtitles from the original with VsRip, converting to sup, and remixing everything with ifoedit (very tedious job), but at the end everything worked, so also for me there seems to be something in the way DVD RB mixes the subtitles, something that appears only on certain players (seems very few), unfortunately mine, and the RB on that list.
For all the other aspects I got no particular problem in doing backups.

[Paced]

I just tried 0.43a with Apocalypse Now (Redux) mainly to see how the new "1/2 D1 1/2 Space for Extras" worked. After preparation, I checked my AVS files, and the main movie was also being resized down to 1/2 D1.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by Paced
I just tried 0.43a with Apocalypse Now (Redux) mainly to see how the new "1/2 D1 1/2 Space for Extras" worked. After preparation, I checked my AVS files, and the main movie was also being resized down to 1/2 D1.

AFAIK It only works if the extras are in a separate VTS (like on about 80% of DVDs from my experience)

[Paced]

Originally posted by Joergen
AFAIK It only works if the extras are in a separate VTS (like on about 80% of DVDs from my experience)

The extras are in a separate VTS.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Paced
I just tried 0.43a with Apocalypse Now (Redux) mainly to see how the new "1/2 D1 1/2 Space for Extras" worked. After preparation, I checked my AVS files, and the main movie was also being resized down to 1/2 D1. I'm looking at it. I'll try to get a fix up.

[Paced]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I'm looking at it. I'll try to get a fix up.

Great, and thanks again for all the work you've done.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Paced
Great, and thanks again for all the work you've done. I just posted the fix as 0.43b... dumb-ass mistake.

[Paced]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I just posted the fix as 0.43b... dumb-ass mistake.

I can confirm 0.43b works as it should now, thanks again jdobbs.

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I've also got another question for you, and sorry if it's been asked before - I don't know much about this subject, but:

When you resize (down to 1/2 D1) an extra that is interlaced, is the use of BilinearResize(352x480/576) correct? I was always under the impression that it should look something like this when processing interlaced video

SeparateFields()
BilinearResize(352x240/288)
Weave()

? Or am I being paranoid, and it works out the same either way?

[Joergen]

Half-D1 only removes from the horizontal rez so you can still have 50/60 fields per second just like the original. You just squeeze the picture sideways, and then stretch it back again on playback.

DVB (digital TV, terrestial or satellite) uses this to help streams work with lower bandwidth.

[Paced]

Originally posted by Joergen
Half-D1 only removes from the horizontal rez so you can still have 50/60 fields per second just like the original. You just squeeze the picture sideways, and then stretch it back again on playback.

DVB (digital TV, terrestial or satellite) uses this to help streams work with lower bandwidth.

Thanks :)

[dave88]

Dang, I had another 0004 buffer overflow error, this one happened after encoding during the rebuild process, the disk is the chappelle show season 1 (funny stuff)

dvdrb 042
eclcce 181
cce sp 2.67.00.23

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I know I had a wierdness associated with subs that was on my "when I get to it list"... it is associated with the NAVPACK's subpicture sync table. It appeared to be working ok -- so it stayed down the list...
OK, thanks. Is it a little up the list now? :)

[RobertR]

Hi!
DVD-RB 0.43b
CCE SP Trial 2.67.00.9
Finding Nemo extras disc R2 Polish edition

Some avs'es have only one frame in them and CCE crashes on those avs'es. DVD-RB goes on encoding rest of avs but than it bombs out at rebuild stage (most probably due to missing mpv)
This is still frame problem, right? I was under impression that it's gone (lately i had no time to follow those huge threads on DVD-RB)

Big sorry if this is known problem at this stage of developement (once again: i thought that still frame issue was fixed not-so-long-ago)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by RobertR
Hi!
DVD-RB 0.43b
CCE SP Trial 2.67.00.9
Finding Nemo extras disc R2 Polish edition

Some avs'es have only one frame in them and CCE crashes on those avs'es. DVD-RB goes on encoding rest of avs but than it bombs out at rebuild stage (most probably due to missing mpv)
This is still frame problem, right? I was under impression that it's gone (lately i had no time to follow those huge threads on DVD-RB)

Big sorry if this is known problem at this stage of developement (once again: i thought that still frame issue was fixed not-so-long-ago) I am aware of a possible problem with QuEnc and single frame encodes, and there is a (fairly) well known issue with CCE 2.50 (that I've inserted code to bypass). But I wasn't aware of any single frame issues with 2.67. I'm becoming more-and-more convinced that I should probably just roll stll frames over into the output unmodified. I looked at it quickly the other day, however, and it would require some considerable recoding.

[RobertR]

Good to know i've been helpfull in some way.
I'm still impressed by speed of developement of this awsome app.
As soon as Poland will be covered by PayPal (I hope this will happen soon after May, 1st when we will join EU) i'll make donations to You and some other authors of great little tools i use :D

[RB]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I am aware of a possible problem with QuEnc and single frame encodes, and there is a (fairly) well known issue with CCE 2.50 (that I've inserted code to bypass). But I wasn't aware of any single frame issues with 2.67.
I have no issues with single frame encodes and CCE-SP 2.67.00.23 and 2.67.00.27.

RobertR, make sure your AVS scripts actually use Mpeg2Dec3DG.dll, not some other Mpeg2Dec3 plugin. Can you play the AVS in MediaPlayer without crashing?

[DDogg]

Jdobbs, I have a replicatable "Runtime 9 - subscript out of range" on title "Italian Job". Please let me know if I can provide any further information. Also, are there any methods to work around this?

[RB]

DDogg, do you get this during prepare or rebuild?

[cptshamrock]

Since I've switched to .43b I got a buffer overflow error #0003. It happens during rebuild. Ive never had this problem with earlier versions and i tried the interlaced disabling as suggested in another post and that did not work.
CCE 2.67.00.23
ecl 1.8b
the dvd im re-building is full metal jacket

[CeanD]

Trying .43b now :D

Also, upgraded to CCESP 2.67.00.23 from .11, just to see if that'd do it.

/me crosses fingers.

[RobertR]

Originally posted by RB
I have no issues with single frame encodes and CCE-SP 2.67.00.23 and 2.67.00.27.
hmm maybe they fixed something in between?

RobertR, make sure your AVS scripts actually use Mpeg2Dec3DG.dll, not some other Mpeg2Dec3 plugin. Can you play the AVS in MediaPlayer without crashing?

This almost fresh W2K install. I've put Mpeg2Dec3DG.dll into plugin subdir of Avisynth 2.54 and am sure that i've pointed DVD-RB to right Mpeg2Dec3 plugin (there's either no other or eventually one that comes with DIF4U -- can't check atm as i'm away from that computer). I didn't try to play it in MPC or Media Player -- didn't thought of it. Will try in the morning.

BTW QuEnc looks like it's not having any probs with this particular dvd. Will see how it comes when i press ReBuild

One more info about my bug report: i get a habit of making ISO image of dvd i'm working on. May this cause crashes of CCE ? (i've seen some posts about some difference when using mounted ISO image and files ripped to hdd when using DVD-RB). Due to space limits i can't realy test this aspect at this moment.

[elmokiddo]

I'm also getting error "Runtime 9 - subscript out of range" on Kill Bill, I did this sucessfully with .39 (or mabye .40) in the past

DVD-RB .43b
CCE 2.67.00.23 trial with EclCCE

This is during the rebuild stage on VTS2
1/2 Space Extras are enabled

[nwg]

This is during the rebuild stage on VTS2

I am rebuilding it right now and about to get to VTS 2 with Kill Bill R2. It worked.

DVD-RB 043b
CCE 2.50 (3 passes)
eclCCE 1.81
Extras set to Half D1.

I reduced the extras a bit more with DVD Shrink prior to DVD-RB.

[DDogg]

Originally posted by RB -
DDogg, do you get this during prepare or rebuild?Sorry, RB, just noticed your message. Yes, it happens on rebuild.

[elmokiddo]

How do I check what revision it is? Kill bill r1? or r2?

[nwg]

How do I check what revision it is? Kill bill r1? or r2?

As in regions - R1 (USA/Canada) or R2 (Europe/Japan).

[elmokiddo]

Ohh!, thanks, I've always thought that meant revisions!

My Kill Bill is R1 btw :)

Elmo.

[wmansir]

Originally posted by DDogg
Jdobbs, I have a replicatable "Runtime 9 - subscript out of range" on title "Italian Job". Please let me know if I can provide any further information. Also, are there any methods to work around this?

I just got that error. I tried re-encoding the problem segment with CCE (just cut out the job from the .ecl and created a temp .ecl to load into CCE) and re-ran the rebuild and it worked. It could be a problem with the originally encoded segement (I encountered an error in the segment after the one that caused the error 9, CCE init() failed see this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=74901), and did that one it manually), or it could be because I restarted DVD-RB, or something else. Just something to try.

I wish I had saved the original .mpv file so I could compare them, but I didn't know if it would work and was just trying it out.

[wgw]

FYI @JDOBBS

Version 0.42 fixed the run-time error 9 I got with the Fawlty Towers disc and v0.41. V0.43b also worked. I'm suprised to see that others are getting the same error now.

[dinobike]

i think i found something when dvd-rb make a 4:3 --> 16:9 conversion.
The title i tried is Armagedon, region 4, and came 4:3 letterboxed so i try the conversion to 16:9 and worked great but the subtitle were gone. Th eversion i use were 0.37 to 0.40. I don't know if the new ones correct the ifo files for the subtitles ( that i supossed its the problem). With nothing else to say but, Jdobbs keep the good job!!, cause this is the best software out there!! ( and anywhere)

i´m using cce 2.5 with eclcce

[RB]

Originally posted by RobertR
This almost fresh W2K install. I've put Mpeg2Dec3DG.dll into plugin subdir of Avisynth 2.54 and am sure that i've pointed DVD-RB to right Mpeg2Dec3 plugin (there's either no other or eventually one that comes with DIF4U -- can't check atm as i'm away from that computer).
That is, you also set "Path to MPEG2DEC3DG" in Rebuilder and ticked the "Add to AVS file" option? You shouldn't do this then because this actually loads Mpeg2Dec3Dg.dll twice which could cause problems. The first time it's auto-loaded because it's in the AVISynth plugins directory, the second time because of the LoadPlugin() in the AVS. I'm not sure how AVISynth reacts in this situation.

[RobertR]

Originally posted by RB
That is, you also set "Path to MPEG2DEC3DG" in Rebuilder and ticked the "Add to AVS file" option? You shouldn't do this then because this actually loads Mpeg2Dec3Dg.dll twice which could cause problems. The first time it's auto-loaded because it's in the AVISynth plugins directory, the second time because of the LoadPlugin() in the AVS. I'm not sure how AVISynth reacts in this situation.
I've put path to Mpeg2Dec3dg but i did not tick "Add to AVS file". I've just searched my disk and found three instances of Mpeg2Dec3dg (one in plugin dir, DIF4U one and NuMenu4U one). I do have also Mpeg2Dec3.dll but they are outside plugin dir (DIF4U and NuMenu4U ships them) and thus should not be found by AviSynth.
I checked also if those 1 frame avs file play in Windows Media Player and they do open up without any problems. However this avs where created for QuEnc not for CCE, i'm almost sure that they look exactly the same in both cases. I'll regenerate avs'es in a few minutes and see if i'm not mistaken.
All in all it looks like either bug in CCE or in my instalation of CCE (this was first CCE encode on this machine) (the latter is not likely cause on avs that have more than 1 frame CCE is doing great)

[RobertR]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I am aware of a possible problem with QuEnc and single frame encodes, and there is a (fairly) well known issue with CCE 2.50 (that I've inserted code to bypass). But I wasn't aware of any single frame issues with 2.67. I'm becoming more-and-more convinced that I should probably just roll stll frames over into the output unmodified. I looked at it quickly the other day, however, and it would require some considerable recoding.
To cheer You up a bit i'll say that
DVD-RB 0.43b
QuEnc 0.45
Finding Nemo Extras Disc R2 Polish Edition
rebuilded without any probs. No crashing, no errors, no problems with single frame encodes. Superb!
Disc doesn't work tho but it's my fault.. I didn't check it earlier.. this dvd has menu in VTS_01_1.VOB! :( It uses BOV i suppose (is there any other way of doing menu in _1.VOB ?) so it won't work with DVD-RB.
Stupid me :)

[RB]

Originally posted by RobertR
It uses BOV i suppose (is there any other way of doing menu in _1.VOB ?)
A menu is BOV is a menu :)

[RobertR]

Originally posted by RB
A menu is BOV is a menu :)
ermm.. i meant _1.VOB not _0.VOB :D well yeah BoV is a menu is a BoV ;)
anyway at this stage DVD-RB just stripped subpic and/or navpacks that where needed. I've never looked into backuping BoV dvds so i'm just that little bit scared...

[dancis]

Hi

I am still getting error buffer overflow error 0003 with v0.44 and ecc 2.5 with eclcce 1.81
I can watch it in windows mediaplayer , and this file is the DTS intro with the piano this is giving the rebuild problem.

[V03012200002001]
SCR=,000
PTS=5400,000
Frame_Rate_Code=3
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=450
Last_Sector=19824
Reduction=39,1
Aspect_Ratio=3
HalfD1=0

I hope this helps or do you need other info?

[samuraijack]

Originally posted by elmokiddo
I'm also getting error "Runtime 9 - subscript out of range" on Kill Bill, I did this sucessfully with .39 (or mabye .40) in the past

DVD-RB .43b
CCE 2.67.00.23 trial with EclCCE

This is during the rebuild stage on VTS2
1/2 Space Extras are enabled \

Same thing exactly except for Im using 2.50 with EclCCE 1.8
Did Master and Commander with .42 the previous night with no problems. Used a copy of the ini from .42 for .43b

A thing that makes you go Hmmmmmmmm...