DVD Rebuilder (One-Click Beta) Bug Reports - v0.30+

[quantum]

It's been brought up before, and I agree. The deinterlacing option is newbie bait and likely to generate ambiguous questions due to lack of knowledge. I think it should be buried deeper or removed.

[imd_man]

Hello jdobbs. Just wanted to say thank you for the time you put into this program. I used it on my copy of Seven last night, and it's just great! The subs came through and everything...it was sweet!

I did have a couple of quick questions though. Please excuse them if they're bad or if they've been answered already. Firstly, in the setup area where you can check all the audio that you want/don't want...does CHECKING them mean that they will NOT be on your final DVD backup? Or does it mean that they WILL show up? Stupid question I know...
Second, as I have spent hours reading through posts around here about "best" quality settings for VBR_Bias and Quality_Prec, I still don't know what a good setting to leave it on...so just out of curiosity, what do you personally do? I know you are much more knowledgeable on this stuff than I am and so your settings are probably way better than mine :)

And lastly (thanks if you're still reading), the "Add to AVS file" check box in options...should that be checked? I'm not quite sure what it does.

Thank you very much.
Best.

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by DMagic1
1. v0.33
2. Rejig
3. N
4. The sound dropout is gone. No pixelation on chapter points. The only small problem I still see is ffwd/rwd thru chapters. This still causes it to skip over chapters on the standalone.

I will test the CCE project I just did.

I did not see the same skip over thing with CCE. The CCE was done on a different movie. I dont know if that could be the reason or not.

[Joergen]

I didnt notice any ffwd problemns on the standalone so I tried in windvd4 and rather amusingly, if you rewind over where the chapter changes and hit play, windvd will start playing at the start of the next chapter.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
It's been brought up before, and I agree. The deinterlacing option is newbie bait and likely to generate ambiguous questions due to lack of knowledge. I think it should be buried deeper or removed. I think you're right. I'm trying to make this simple and that one is likely to cause me headaches. Maybe I should come up with an "Advanced Options that you probably will never need so don't look here unless you're an expert" dialog?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by imd_man
Hello jdobbs. Just wanted to say thank you for the time you put into this program. I used it on my copy of Seven last night, and it's just great! The subs came through and everything...it was sweet!

I did have a couple of quick questions though. Please excuse them if they're bad or if they've been answered already. Firstly, in the setup area where you can check all the audio that you want/don't want...does CHECKING them mean that they will NOT be on your final DVD backup? Or does it mean that they WILL show up? Stupid question I know...
Second, as I have spent hours reading through posts around here about "best" quality settings for VBR_Bias and Quality_Prec, I still don't know what a good setting to leave it on...so just out of curiosity, what do you personally do? I know you are much more knowledgeable on this stuff than I am and so your settings are probably way better than mine :)

And lastly (thanks if you're still reading), the "Add to AVS file" check box in options...should that be checked? I'm not quite sure what it does.

Thank you very much.
Best. Question 1: Checking them in Setup is a way to make remove them by default.

Question 2: Leave them at the defaults and they should be fine. If you've changed them and aren't sure what the default was, edit the REBUILDER.INI file and remove them. They will go back to the default.

Question 3: That checkbox affects only the "MPEG2DEC3DG" path. Normally, if AVISYNTH is set up properly, you don't even need to worry about it. You just load MPEG2DEC3.DLL in the AVISYNTH plugin directory and it's all magic. But, unfortunately, some 3rd party software changes the registry path to "Plugins" -- so I added that path (and the checkbox) so you can force AVISYNTH to load it at the known location. I'm debating whether to just put MPEG2DEC3.DLL into my zip, get rid of that option, and force the path to the DVD ReBuilder directory. But... I'm not sure what the rules are for that -- I think I can't distribute it without the source and notices and... well it's just too complicated for me right now. :)

[jdobbs]

These threads are getting too big to bear... I got a post (somewhere from somebody) that mentioned what appears to be "forever loop" when using ReJig... and after looking for the message for a while I've decided to give up and just post a response.

I just wanted you to know that I found that error... in fact it will prevent ReJig from working at all for encoding as it will get to the second or so file and keep doing it over-and-over...

I've fixed it and will post later today.

Thanks!

[Bacardi_AVT]

I have tried every version since 0.16 to do a back-up of Chicago Reg 2 PAL, but I get an error every time.

I used this the last time I got the error:
1. 0.34
2. CCE 2.50
3. Yes
4. I get a "Run-time error '9': Subscript out of range" when re-build is scanning and building the .avs and .d2v files. When I check the work dir I can see three .avs files that seams to be complete and on that is obnly created with nothing written. I have tried to do this back-up in two different ways: in the first I use DVDdecrypter to rip an image that I then mount in daemon tools, the seconf way is that I use DVDdecrypter to ripp all the files on the DVD to a specific directory insted. either way I still get the error at the exact same place when running rebuilder. Strange since all other DVDs I have tried have worked like a charm.

Thanks jdobbs for all the work you put in to this program.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Oldeman
DVD-RB .33
Rejig
Options:
Supress warning
One click
Dynamic bit rate

Movie: Tora Tora Tora NTSC R1
Hid extras with DvdReMake.
Removed 2-channel audio tracks with DVD-RB

Run time 9 during rebuild-> Seg 24 Vob 17 Cellid 1
#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:17, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("D:\DVD_RB_WORK\D2VAVS\V07.D2V")
trim(117237,125540)
ConvertToYUY2()
AudioDub(BlankClip())

Do I need AVS options with ReJig???

I have done other movies with DVD-RB sucessfully.

System AMD 750, 256Mb, Win98SE Well this runtime '9' has to stop... I didn't have a copy of "Tora Tora Tora" -- so I'm off to the store to buy one... I like that movie and should have owned it anyway!

[dancis]

I don't know if this is my fault but i have this problem.

When i want to transcode tombraider the cradle of life R2 from the harddrive (ripped with dvd decrypter) i get runtime error '9' : subscript out of range when i hit the transcode button in one or 3 click mode.

I am using version 0.34 , cce sp 2.67 trail and eclcce 1.8b

But when i transcode it directly from the dvd there is no problem.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dancis
I don't know if this is my fault but i have this problem.

When i want to transcode tombraider the cradle of life from the harddrive (ripped with dvd decrypter) i get runtime error '9' : subscript out of range when i hit the transcode button in one or 3 click mode.

I am using version 0.34 , cce sp 2.67 trail and eclcce 1.8b

But when i transcode directly from the dvd there is no problem. Something isn't copying right.

[KungFuCow]

Ive had the same thing happen with movies done with DVD Decrypter.. usually a rerip fixes the problem but it can be frustrating.

[dancis]

Now preparation goes oke , but when it wants to start to decode i get the next error , this one i never had before..........

Gdiploadimage failed : 3

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by dancis
Now preparation goes oke , but when it wants to start to decode i get the next error , this one i never had before..........

Gdiploadimage failed : 3 What the hell is that?

[dancis]

I don't know :p

But i will install everything again , and then see if the problem still comes up!

[KungFuCow]

Originally posted by dancis
I don't know :p

But i will install everything again , and then see if the problem still comes up!

What are you using as a source? The actual DVD, ripped files or some sort of image mounted on a virtual drive?

[Stive]

Originally posted by Stive
V33
CCE2.5
ECL yes, 1.7
Default settings except, one-click, dynamic, suppress, CCE2.5, 3pass
Lotrings2, NTSC
Used DVDDecrypter 321 full disc

I was in the middle of the process with v33 when I saw v34 come out. Not sure v34 would be any help with the picture stutter at chapters. Original plays fine. I have burned this onto a DVDRW to play on my standalone. I don't recall ever getting any other errors since v1X, except that I can't get rid of this stutter (kind of a freeze for a split second, then restarts). Anyway, keep up the good work. I'll try version 34 and hopefully, you've cracked this nut.

Update: Just finished the same backup with v34, no improvement in chapter stutter.:( Has anyone found a workaround? Other than the stutter, the tool and results are amazing. Thanks jdobbs.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Stive
Update: Just finished the same backup with v34, no improvement in chapter stutter.:( Has anyone found a workaround? Other than the stutter, the tool and results are amazing. Thanks jdobbs. Is it audio, picture, both? This drives me crazy... especially since I have yet to have seen it. I even went to other people's houses and tried it on their players...

[dancis]

Gdiploadimage failed : 3 problem solved , i re-installed cce again and now it works fine.

:D

[insanescape]

Stive and anyone else with chapter skips:

Please list your DVD player, whether or not you've tried the disc in another player, PC, or PS2/Xbox, and finally, is DVDRebuilder the first time you've ever made an "authored" DVD - meaning, not transcoded/copied a disc?

It seems like the people having issues haven't ever made their own DVD, but have probably dvddecrypted/shrink'd a movie instead.

My take on the whole thing is it is the PLAYER that can't handle authored dvds. Doesn't seem to matter the burning program, the media, or the authoring program - chapter skips on some (usually cheap) players. When you take the same disc and put it on a toshiba, sony, playstation 2, a JVC, an Apex, and various PCs and the only one having chapter skips is the apex - it's probably the player.

Edit: These "issues" are not unique to DVDRB, which leads me to believe even more so that it's not a problem with jdobb's code.

[Stive]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Is it audio, picture, both? This drives me crazy... especially since I have yet to have seen it. I even went to other people's houses and tried it on their players...


It is only in the video. For a written visual, it is like you see a still picture, then it kinda jumps as though it is catching up and runs as normal. All of this happens is a split second. The audio does not appear to be affected whatsoever. My DVD player is a Mintek 1600...I know...cheapie!:D

[Stive]

Originally posted by insanescape
Stive and anyone else with chapter skips:

Please list your DVD player, whether or not you've tried the disc in another player, PC, or PS2/Xbox, and finally, is DVDRebuilder the first time you've ever made an "authored" DVD - meaning, not transcoded/copied a disc?

It seems like the people having issues haven't ever made their own DVD, but have probably dvddecrypted/shrink'd a movie instead.

My take on the whole thing is it is the PLAYER that can't handle authored dvds. Doesn't seem to matter the burning program, the media, or the authoring program - chapter skips on some (usually cheap) players. When you take the same disc and put it on a toshiba, sony, playstation 2, a JVC, an Apex, and various PCs and the only one having chapter skips is the apex - it's probably the player.

Edit: These "issues" are not unique to DVDRB, which leads me to believe even more so that it's not a problem with jdobb's code.

My DVD player is a Mintek 1600
It does play dvd's using DVDShrink, IC, and other one clikers.
It has played DVD's using DVD2SVCD (dvd settings).
I do not have another standalone dvd player to test.
The reauthored dvd plays fine in the pc (using Nero Showtime).


I do have DVD2DVDR and will try that overnight(or maybe longer)to see if stutter occurs.

I agree that it appears to be player specific from reading through the threads. I don't know that I read anywhere that a high dollar DVD player was stuttering. But, if I recall what jdobbs has said before, his program is to be all inclusive (including cheapies).

[elmokiddo]

Hey,
I'm using the latest version of everything and the lastest CCE SP trial, and I'm getting an audio out of sync problem, I'm not sure but it specially seems prominent when I Fast forward or rewind.

As well, I seem to be getting some tiny audio dropouts periodically at what seems to be chapter breaks.

This is occuring on my Samsung 951HD and with Matrix Revolutions.
after more testing ill post some more results.

Thanks!
Elmokiddo

[wfiguero]

DVD-R Version: 0.33
CCE 2.67.00.11
eclCCE Yes
NTSC
Bug encountered: Player Apex stutter in chapter change and sometimes several times in the same chapter

My DVD player is a Apex AD-1500
Play dvd's using DVDShrink, DVD95Copy, and other one clickers
Played DVD's using DVD2SVCD (dvd settings) without problems.
Played DVD's authored with DVDLab without problems

My other dvd player a Panasonic A310 show much less stutter but it's show some.

My PC Liteon DVD player does not show any shutter.

Thanks

I will also like to add that the FF/REW is not working correctly. It will go to the next chapter instead of current position. The same situation that Alex Z

[Alex Z]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Is it audio, picture, both? This drives me crazy... especially since I have yet to have seen it. I even went to other people's houses and tried it on their players...

@jdobbs

V .34
CCE 2.67
ECL yes, 1.8
DVDDecrypter -> iso full disc.
Tested on "What women want", NTSC. Using Windvd 4. (Time line 0:13:03-0:13:07)


First, the stuttering problem may occur at any point not just chapter brake. Tested from RB .16-.34. Made me believe mpeg2dec3dg.dll (dated 10/2/03) is responsible. I did the same movie but with mpeg2dec3.dll (dated 07/28/03). No stuttering so far. What are the disadvantages using mpeg2dec3 instead of mpeg2dec3dg?

Second, FF/REW is still not working correctly. It will go to the next chapter instead of current position.

az

.

[candsh]

AMD 1400mhz
Promise Raid-0
1 Gig Ram
Radeon 7500 64 MB DDR
CCE- Basic
Movie: Cast Away
DVD-RB v.34

Made a copy of this movie way back with version 14.....16 with Rejig. Came out movie only and was perfect. Ordered a CCE-Basic and encountered every problem known to mankind. Lock-up, Blue Screen. Errors 004, 0009 and others I can't remember.

I remembered that with Instant Copy it would ask for a different screen resolution so I decided to try that here. Changed from 800 x600 to 1152 x 864. Sat and watched it go through all the moves expecting to see a crash or something at any second. Went through the entire process flawlessly!! Loaded the files into Nero 6 and it loaded without complaint, burned and played back on Win DVD. Tried the FFwd and Rew everything was perfect..... menu's, warnings, Audio perfect and no stuttering, no skips in the video or audio.

Will play back tomorrow on the stand alone (Pioneer DV-C36) but if it plays on the computer I am confident it will play thru an 8' screen projector. It will show any flaw and I will be watching to see if anything is there.

Right now I am very excited again over this program!!

[nwg]

Alex Z wrote,
First, the stuttering problem may occur at any point not just chapter brake. Tested from RB .16-.34. Made me believe mpeg2dec3dg.dll (dated 10/2/03) is responsible.

This is the second time I have heard this.

I am going to try it with Matrix Revolutions to see if the stutter goes away.

[acido]

1. DVD-R Version: .34
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23, ReJig 0.5e
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.8b)
4. Bug encountered: encode process looping on VTS_01 segment 01 with Rejig
.
As you can see below something is broken with Rejig:
Phase I, PREPARATION started at 12:36:24
- VTS_01: 2,867,188 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Video demultiplexing...
-- Processed 186,266 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 65.8%
- Overall Bitrate : 3,527Kbs
- HIGH/LOW Cell Bitrates: 4,118/819 Kbs
Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 9 minutes.
Phase II ENCODING started at 12:45:23
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Now Encoding with CCE and don't have this problem.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
1. DVD-R Version: .34
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.67.00.23, ReJig 0.5e
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.8b)
4. Bug encountered: encode process looping on VTS_01 segment 01 with Rejig
.
As you can see below something is broken with Rejig:
Phase I, PREPARATION started at 12:36:24
- VTS_01: 2,867,188 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Video demultiplexing...
-- Processed 186,266 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 65.8%
- Overall Bitrate : 3,527Kbs
- HIGH/LOW Cell Bitrates: 4,118/819 Kbs
Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 9 minutes.
Phase II ENCODING started at 12:45:23
- Reducing filesize for VTS_01 segment 00
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Now Encoding with CCE and don't have this problem. Bad mistake on my part. I cut and pasted some code into the loop when working on Pause/Resume and (sigh...) reset the loop controlling variable in the middle of the loop.

Bottom line: I screwed it up and have since fixed it. You'll see a fix posted in the next few minutes.

[jdobbs]

A new version (0.35) has been posted with a couple of bug fixes. See the first message of this thread.

Please also note, that per a suggestion, I am changing the title of the "Comments and Suggestions" thread each time I post an update so you can easily see it from the "One Click DVD backup solutions" page.

[acido]

Originally posted by jdobbs
A new version (0.35) has been posted with a couple of bug fixes. See the first message of this thread.


Sorry but that link isn't working, it says "invalid attachment specified" :(

[jurij]

u sure the link works?

"Invalid attachment specified. If you followed a valid link, please notify the webmaster"

[brikin]

I am still getting the 004 buffer overflow error with .34 in the Rebuild phase. The m2v this is happening on is a still frame opening up the avs file shows the trim (5677,5677) command.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by acido
Sorry but that link isn't working, it says "invalid attachment specified" :( It works for me. What browser are you using?

[SteveV]

Same error here using IE6

[jurij]

we all use explorer

[jdobbs]

DOH!!! Sorry, dumb-ass mistake. I hadn't validated the attachment yet. I guess it was working for me because I'm a moderator. It should work now.

[SteveV]

Thank you it works now
Gonna test a title right away with it.

[jikchung]

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.33
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y (v 1.7)
4. Bug encountered:

Just did Highlander Season 2 disc 2 again with version 0.33 and got no video stutter this time. Reprocessing it now with different CCE settings, so we'll see if it comes out good again. Still getting improper display of elapsed times/chapter # not updated with RW/FF.
My Player is an Apex 5131, never encountered this issue before with any DVD and I have personally authored many (home movies, instructional videos, etc.) as well as using Shrink, DVD2SVCD and others with no issues.

[lab-one]

@jdobbs

Q4. I set everything up -- but nothing seems to happen and/or I get video that is a black screen with orange/red lines at the bottom.

A4. You probably are having a problem with the location of MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL. In the installation instructions (see the REBUILDER.TXT file) it tells you to put that file in the AVISYNTH Plugins directory. That should work. But some 3rd party software designers (bless their hearts) have decided to change the AVISYNTH registry entry to another location... You fix that by entering the setup dialog of DVD-RB and pointing directly to the MPEG2DEC3.DLL file -- also, click on the "Add to AVS File" checkbox.



This is somewhat confusing because of the 2 different file names used. It has come up a couple of times and I recall in early testing stages I personally was using MPEG2DEC3.DLL and then later changed it to MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL once the option was added to DVD-RB setup. Please calrify, which file is it exactly that I should point DVD-RB to? (If memory serves me correctly, MPEG2DEC3.DLL is used in apps such as gordianknot...also, when looking through cce forums I see much reference to MPEG2DEC3.DLL but not MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL. However, this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=63593&highlight=MPEG2DEC3.DLL) post seems to say the contrary.) It appears that MPEG2DEC3.DLL first came up here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=458729&highlight=MPEG2DEC3.DLL#post458729) in regards to DVD-RB.

Would having the wrong file cause problems? (IE. stuttering since that is the ONLY problem I am having and would love to get beyond it ). This may be the wrong thread as this is not a "bug" perse. I just need help/clarification/guidance....

Thanks.:)

[JvD]

Originally posted by brikin
I am still getting the 004 buffer overflow error with .34 in the Rebuild phase. The m2v this is happening on is a still frame opening up the avs file shows the trim (5677,5677) command.

But, shouldnt this stills frame problem be removed by now Rdobbs? Doom9s first page states "DVD Rebuilder 0.34 can handle still frames (thus most if not all 004 errors should be gone)". Is it true or is the info wrong on the first page?

[Stive]

Originally posted by Alex Z
@jdobbs



First, the stuttering problem may occur at any point not just chapter brake. Tested from RB .16-.34. Made me believe mpeg2dec3dg.dll (dated 10/2/03) is responsible. I did the same movie but with mpeg2dec3.dll (dated 07/28/03). No stuttering so far. What are the disadvantages using mpeg2dec3 instead of mpeg2dec3dg?

az

.

I just tried a quick transcode and burn using the mpeg2dec3 instead of the mpeg2dec3dg and I still get the stutter.:( Audio appears ok. To be fair, I did not do the whole disk and just stripped out three chapters. Anyway, this change was not the answer for me.

jdobbs...thanks for the change to use dvdrb if the output is already to small. It makes it easier for me to test anyway.

[insanescape]

While being a solution for EVERY player, despite ones with obviously flaws, is an ideal to strive for, I worry that it may be beyond the scope of what one person can accomplish. Not knocking jdobb's skills at all (especially since mine can be compared to that of a one-armed monkey with severe brain damage), just that certain players seem to not be able to handle authored from scratch chapter breaks no matter what.

Perhaps there is a way that the chapter code is inserted into vob files from scratch opposed to how it is inserted when you bring that DVD home from the store. Maybe it's something that can be fixed with some scrutiny, maybe it isn't. Even using a different mpeg2dec3 is going to solve very little since chapter stutter is caused by other programs that don't even use it. It's probably at the vob/ifo level at this point. If anyone feels like it, take a CCE'd reauthored DVD vs a dvdshrink one and see if the way the chapter points are inserted is different, even though it should be at the exact same timepoint of the movie.

Again, I ask if anyone's had chapter stutter problems on anything else they have made from scratch. I'm talking about converting 175MB tv shows to a DVD. Or taking a 700MB xvid file and encoding it to MPG2 and throwing it on a DVD with chapter breaks. I'm going to guess that if you have, you probably have chapter stutters with those as well on the player. Also, it certainly seems like the common theme of chapter stutters has been cheap players. Sure someone's thrown out a pioneer or so, but even the big players probably have some flaws here and there.

Remember that self-authored content is relatively new in the world of DVD with regards to available to the masses. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if some of these manufacturers never even tested authored DVDs on their machines - if they had they clearly would've seen the chapter problems.

The solution, though not a pretty one, may very well be to fork over 70 bucks for a new player. I'd love to be wrong, but I'm not optimistic.

[Joergen]

People, dont sound so demanding. It says in the readme that still frames need testing and so does everything.

1. DVD-RB Version: .34
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Y (1.8b)
4. Bug encountered: none

I just did [snip] R2 which is flagged as true progressive and the results are absolutely flawless. Compression ratio was 68% which is under what any transcoder can do satisfactory and DVD-RB once again flexes its muscles.

edit: Now tested with an age-old Panasonic DVD-A350, Sony PS2 V7, an Euroline cheapo player, Sony NS430 and some new Panasonic player the model of which I cant remember. Now, if there exists some dodgy Samsung player that would still have problems, its no concern of mine cause I dont know a single person with a Samsung player.

edit: tested with windvd4 and PowerDVD and again only problems encountered is windvd skipping to the beginning of the chapter FROM WHERE you rewind from over the chapterpoint. ie. if you're in chapter 2 and you rewind to chapter 1 and hit play it just starts to play from chapter 2 beginning instead of where you were when you hit play.

[lab-one]

@insanescape

The solution, though not a pretty one, may very well be to fork over 70 bucks for a new player. I'd love to be wrong, but I'm not optimistic.

Out of curiosity, what do people consider cheap players? For example, a Sony DVPNS725P, retails at $140. It's a single disc player that I purchased from CircuitCity. The price falls in their mid to upper range for single disc players that support DVD+R and have progressive scan capabilities. I guess I personally didn't think it was cheap when I could have went to Wal-Mart and spent $29 on an apex player.

I'm deffinetely not discouting that it could be my player that is causing the skipping. My previous Sony (I don't remember the model) wouldn't play transcoded DVD's, it was about 2 years old...possibly 3. So, maybe the new sony can handle the transcoded DVD's but can't handled authored DVD's. Hell, I don't know. This "stuttering" problem is the only issue I have right now. I am hoping that I don't need to purchase a new player. (Translation: I can't justify another new DVD player to the wife...)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by JvD
But, shouldnt this stills frame problem be removed by now Rdobbs? Doom9s first page states "DVD Rebuilder 0.34 can handle still frames (thus most if not all 004 errors should be gone)". Is it true or is the info wrong on the first page? If you read it -- it says "most if not all of the 0004 errors" -- also the name is jdobbs. As for "shouldnt this stills frame problem be removed by now Rdobbs" -- I would suggest that if you are impatient, you should write your own program and give it away for nothing.

[jdobbs]

On the stuttering issue. My personal opinion is that there is a timing issue located somewhere in DVD-RB that shows on sensitive players... it isn't the player's fault.

I have to fix it -- and will. DVD's should play on ALL drives. It's a matter of when... which is made more complicated by the fact that I can't repeat it.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I have to fix it -- and will. DVD's should play on ALL drives. It's a matter of when... which is made more complicated by the fact that I can't repeat it.

Have you tried windvd4? It's the only tool I have that will show some kind of problem (the skip-to-original-chapter on rewind). Hope you can use it to test.

[insanescape]

rdobbs.. ronnie dobbs? :D

Anyway, I say we all pitch in an extra buck or two so j can buy an apex player and see the stutterring on the DVDs, it might be the only way :)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by insanescape
rdobbs.. ronnie dobbs? :D

Anyway, I say we all pitch in an extra buck or two so j can buy an apex player and see the stutterring on the DVDs, it might be the only way :) I actually have an Apex 1200 and a relative's Apex 1500 that I've tested on. No stutter for me.