DVD Rebuilder (One-Click Beta) Bug Reports - v0.30+

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by HanSolo00
Outstanding work, jdobbs, thanks for all the hard work you are putting into this great tool.

1. DVD-R Version: 0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

Chapter stutter--depends on which player I play the burned project in. It plays flawlessly on the DVD drive in my computer, but stutters at chapter breaks in my cheapo Norcent DVD player (though the Norcent has no trouble with other 1:1 or DVDShrink titles.) Also, of course, the original DVD does not stutter at chapters in the Norcent. Exact same thing happens in v0.29: plays fine on my computer, stutters at chapter breaks in my Norcent. All my testing has been with the same DVD title (The Last Starfighter.)

I had problems not encoding but playing back stills as well, but since they were all in one separate VTS, I just copied the VOB/IFO over instead of using the ones Rebuilder made and they work fine. When you say it stutters... does it do it for several frames, one frame... is it very noticable or do you have to look for it?

[HanSolo00]

The stutter is a single pause of about 0.2 seconds or so at each chapter break, so I'm guessing it is several frames but not sure. It definately is noticable when viewing the movie, I don't have to look for it. And it ONLY seems to happen on my Norcent DVD player; it plays fine on my computer's DVD drive. It can't be the media, because other 1:1 backups work fine.

Incidentally, I haven't noticed any of the audio sync problems others are having in the long chapters that I've checked so far.

Other than the chapter pauses, everything is perfect.

[Joergen]

jdobbs prolly has ideas for that pause thing but heres something to look at:

-The player jumping/freezing for the audio to come back and thus pausing the video till it does. (the audio gap problem reversed sort of)
-Too high bitrate causes pause
-Too low bitrate causes pause

btw what is the lowest bitrate allowed for a DVD?

[nwg]

The stutter is a single pause of about 0.2 seconds or so at each chapter break

I had the same thing with Matrix Revolutions PAL using 030. It only did it once while going from one chapter to another. It was chapter 3 to 4. This is where Sereph, Morpheus and Trinity open the door to the train and walk through. It stutters while the door begins to open and freezes for a fraction of a second and then plays normal to the end of the film.

It only did it on my cheap player but my decent player and computer played it fine. My Sony has played discs from every version of DVD-RB perfectly.

I am doing it again with 031 now.

[HanSolo00]

It pauses for a fraction of a second in my cheap DVD player on every single chapter of the title I converted with DVDRB 0.30. Other compressed titles done by release groups which I've tried on the same media in the same player have no such pauses... so it must be some minor little thing at chapter points that is causing some players hickups. Frustrating to debug though because it only seems to show up after you burn and test it in the player.

One other minor bug, which may have already been fixed by now, is in the settings dialog for CCE 2.50. I selected 6 pass VBR (and it's still there now as a default), but when I looked in the Rebuilder.ecl it has VBR_Pass=5 on every cell. No biggy, 5-pass is fine anyway, but just thought I'd point that out.

[tf]

The number 5 is correct. It will actually do one pass more than the number in the ecl file.

-tf

[loosenut]

Originally posted by loosenut
1. DVD-R Version: 0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y

4a. Stargate SG1, Vol 33, PAL
On a JVC and a Sony standalones: everything OK. No stutter whatsoever on chapter points. All chapters involve dissolve and background music continuing to next chapter. Not a single glitch. Yes!!
On a Philips standalone: Picture freezes on start of each episode - chapter. Arghhh!
Same thing that happens on the &^$&^$$#@@ Philips since day 1. :(

4b. Babylon 5, Season 3, disc 1, PAL.
Run-time error '9'
Subscript out of range
7.7% into rebuilding.
I tried rebuilding with 0.31, same thing.
Retrying from the start with 0.31 now.
Will report back in a ...uhm, a few hours.

you're getting there :)

I Re-did Babylon 5, Season 3, disc 1, PAL, with DVD-R 0.31 and same settings as before:
No chapter stutter
AND....
IT PLAYS PERFECTLY OK ON MY PHILIPS ALSO!!!!!!!
(This was a bug that only yours truly had reported a long time ago, was present in every otherwise perfect backup, and prevented me from actually keeping a backup.
From past experience, I am almost 99,999% sure that since it plays on the Philips, it can play anywhere.
Or at least, the structure is solid!
So you got rid of two bugs with one shot!!!!
Bravo!!
(Just to be absolutely sure, I'll re-do the Stargate DVD with 0.31, to confirm)

[HanSolo00]

Awesome, loosenut.

I'm redoing my project right now, with 0.31 instead of 0.30. I'll have an update on my chapter pause problem in about 4 hours (I didn't keep my project files.)

[Crawl]

Hello jdobbs....

Thanks for sharing your program with us.....

Just for feedback

Version = 0.31
Encoder = CCE 2.67.00.08 (but it nevers gets there)
Eclee = No

Roxette The Complete Collection.

DVD contains 4 VTS folders....
VTS02 contains 36 PGC...
When doing the preparing its stopped (in VTS02) at aprox. 75% saying

Runtime error 9
Subscript out of range.

Maybe this tiny little feedback will help you to get get your program to get even better.....

Crawl

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DMagic1
1. DVD-RB v0.30 and 0.29
2. ReJig 0.5e
3. Using eclCCE? N
4. Audio becomes out of sync near the end of the 1st chapter. At the start of the 2nd chapter it is corrected. I have done three movie and get the same thing. I'm not sure if it was there in 0.28 or not. I think this is only happening on ReJig... I just did a same DVD in ReJig and CCE -- I noticed audio drift on the ReJig version but not on CCE... gotta be related to some difference in the way I process them.

[HanSolo00]

More detail on the 'chapter pause' issue:

I checked both 0.29a and 0.30 DVDs in my Norcent player. The audio continues to play through the chapter end with no glitch at all, but it's at the end of each chapter that the video pauses for a fraction of a second. If I seek to the chapter starts they play fine. If I rewind slightly and let it play through, the video pauses for a fraction of a second before the next chapter starts. The audio stream plays uninterrupted however.

I'm about halfway completed redoing the project with DVD-RB v0.31 so I'll report my findings after I've finished and burned that one. Maybe it's just my cheap DVD player, but then I'd expect other compressed titles to have similar problems, which they don't.

[winny]

Oldeman, I'm getting the exact same problem with runtime 5.

DVD-RB : 0.31
Quenc : 0.45
Dynamic bit rate
DVD mounted with Daemon Tools

Prepare and encode work fine, then the rebuild phase copies the unmodified content to video_ts folder.

Processing vts_02
- Processing segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1

"Run-time error 5 - Invalid procedure call or argument"

Apologies in advance if ths anything to do with the stills issue, but I read elsewhere that RB would flag problematic content and give a warning, so not sure if this is worthy of a bug report.

Keep up the good work jdobbs, I'm amazed at your progress this far.

[Joergen]

1. DVD-RB v0.31
2. CCE 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. no bugs, absolutely perfect! :D

I redid the backup on [irrelevant] bonus disc R2 (7.2GB 180+ min) using 0.31 with 3pass CCE (on my romping AMD 64 3200+ rig) and the results are now flawless on a V7 sony PS2, panasonic dvd, sony dvd and a fourth cheapo dvd player (standalones of course).

Thank you jdobbs for making the impossible possible! Finally a reason to register a paypal account!

[StifflerStealth]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I think this is only happening on ReJig... I just did a same DVD in ReJig and CCE -- I noticed audio drift on the ReJig version but not on CCE... gotta be related to some difference in the way I process them.

I used CCE version 2.67.00.23 and I have the audio out-of-sync thing (Best word I can use when I'm tired :D).

Stiff

[sreemv]

DVD-RB: 0.31B
EclCCE: Yes
CCE: 2.67

Popup error:
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort"

Followed by another popup error:
"Stop statement encountered"

The source DVD ripped to HD using DVD decryptor - File mode - ALL files.
The error popped up during the "Rebuild" step.
Trying to backup "Harry Potter Sorcerers Stone".

I must be missing something(?) because this appears to happen with Jurassic Park and I have a feeling will happen with any movie. Please help!

[ELT]

Hello,

I'm trying to encode Minority Report the pal version. The prepare and encode phase go well but then at rebuilding phase at 95% i get the "Run-time error 5 - Invalid procedure call or argument". I'm using:

DVD-RB : 0.31
Quenc : 0.45
Dynamic bit rate
DVD mounted with Daemon Tools

Keep up the good work!

[Sir Didymus]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

Chapter stutter. It shows the problem at all chapter breaks in my cheap Medion DVD player. It is a pause of few frames (it is more or less noticeable, but it depend on the chapter).

I also noticed that in the display of the player, if you play the title normally, both the chapter number and the time elapsed is correct; on the other hand, if you play backward through the chapter breaks, the chapter number is not updated and the time elapsed shows a value that is affected by an offset which is exactly the twice of the right value... I hope it is more clear with an example...

Title: Donnie Brasco, PAL, R2

In the following table columns are:
- Chapter number;
- Chapter Start time;
- Time showed in normal play through the following chapter;
- Time showed in backward play through the previous chapter...

1 ... 0:00 .... 5:30 .... n.d.
2 ... 5:30 .... 12:39 ... 10:59 = (5:30 - 0:00) * 2 + 0:00
3 ... 12:39 ... 14:14 ... 19:48 = (12:39 - 5:30) * 2 + 5:30
4 ... 14:14 ... 17:45 ... 15:49 = (14:14 - 12:39) * 2 + 12:39
5 ... 17:45 ... 23:25 ... 21:16 = (17:45 - 14:14) * 2 + 14:14
6 ... 23:25 ... 28:57 ... 29:05 = (23:25 - 17:45) * 2 + 17:45

[Tironic]

I've tried to decrypt a DVD to M2V and AC3 with vobedit and rebuild from scratch with ifoedit. Sometimes the playlenght of my M2V file is just half the original length, maybe due to layerbreaks. The AC3 length is fine

Originally posted by Sir Didymus
I also noticed that in the display of the player, if you play the title normally, both the chapter number and the time elapsed is correct; on the other hand, if you play backward through the chapter breaks, the chapter number is not updated and the time elapsed shows a value that is affected by an offset which is exactly the twice of the right value... I hope it is more clear with an example...

Could this be a same sort of problem here? I'm not sure if this helps you anything. I hope it does.

Tironic

[Marcelw]

Hello,

I am watching already for a long time this topic. The tool is fantastic.
But still I want to mention a problem which exist since the start of this tool.
1. DVD-RB Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bugs encountered:


Untill sofar I have every time the same problem with the DVD of Queen live at wembley.(R2). In the phase of prepare I get the famous 9 error. I get annoyed about this error. However, on some other DVD's I don't get these error and on some other I do. I noticed that it should have something to do with stills. But still it is annoying. I would like to contineu with this DVD of Queen

[wmansir]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE 2.5
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered: Runtime Error '9': Subscript out of range.

I was using 1-click mode, testing overnight. For testing purposes I checked Half-D1 and Decomb, in addition to the normal settings I use AudioDub, and ConvertTOYUY2. Checking out the .avs files, everything appears to be setup according to my settings.

It appears that RB Generated this error near the very end of "Rebuilding Segment 19 VOBID:1 CELL:20". Before getting to the NAVPACKS update. Heres the .inf around VOBID:1 Cell:20, as you can see Cell 21 is a still at the end of the VOBID, if that matters.

[V01001900001020]
SCR=583760677.500
PTS=583787436.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=5397
Last_Sector=2769861
Reduction=48.6
[V01002000001021]
SCR=604020417.000
PTS=604045674.000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=1
Structure=3
Frames=9365
Last_Sector=2885220
Reduction=48.6
[V01002100002001]
SCR=.000
PTS=29707.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=1
Last_Sector=2885224
Reduction=48.6
[V02000000001001]
SCR=.000
PTS=25257.000
Frame_Rate_Code=4
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=13520
Last_Sector=144933
Reduction=48.6

[trebor]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

End result is way to small. Actually even the *.m2v-files i get during encoding are also to small. Las time i tried this they were all around 100mb somewhere but now they are only around 20mb...
And the end result is around 1.5gb.
Not really shure if this is a bug or if i have missed something :)

[nwg]

Las time i tried this they were all around 100mb somewhere but now they are only around 20mb.

I also just noticed that.

During a encode, a M2V that was done with 026 was 6MB is now 2MB 030/031. It is like that for all M2V files.

Does that number of CCE passes affect this?

[lab-one]

@bobwillis

The link appears to be working fine. (http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=469702)

[Sir Didymus]

1. DVD-R Version: 0.31
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.66
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

Error #0004.

DVD Title: TERMINATOR_2A, PAL, R2

DVD_RB terminates in the first VTS of the title, (containing title menus and extras) during the rebuilding of segment 7, Vob ID 8 Cell ID 1, nearby at the beginning of the rebuild step.

Please note it is the first still picture in the VTS and it is flagged as progressive (by Dvd2Avi), while all of the previous cells are flagged as interlaced. Also Dvd2Avi is not showing the frame rate for this still.

For all of the cells, the AVS scripts are including both of the statements FieldDeinterlace() and ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true).

Vob id . Cell id . Frames . Frame type .. Frame Rate . Trimming
1 ........ 1 ...... 725 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(0,724)
2 ........ 1 ...... 725 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(725,1449)
3 ........ 1 ...... 725 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(1450,2174)
4 ........ 1 ...... 725 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(2175,2899)
5 ........ 1 ...... 725 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(2900,3624)
6 ........ 1 ...... 225 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(3625,3849)
7 ........ 1 ...... 100 ... Interlaced .. Pal25fps ... trim(3850,3949)
8 ........ 1 ...... 1 ..... Progressive . Not showed . trim(3950,3950)

[KinhKha]

did Matrix revolution disk1 around 79%, 1 pass ~ 2hr (and also Blade2)
1. DVD-RB v0.31
2. CCE SP 2.67.0.10
3. Using eclCCE? Y 1.8b
4. no serious bugs
5. result's size: always get around 4.32 GB

checking:
Import result to Shrink: ok
Import to CloneDVD2 and slide the movie to the end, no Navigation Pack error
But I have to use IfoEdit to do "Get VTS sector" (with v 0.26 I did not have to do this)
PS: Play back ok on PC and standalone DVD player( before and after "get VTS sectors")

[jikchung]

1. DVD-RB Version: 0.30
2. Encoder being used: CCE-SP 2.50
3. Using eclCCE? Y
4. Bug encountered:

I get the same errors on playback as Sir Didymus, namely some chapter stutter, chapters not updated in display if rewind/FF is used, and wrong display of elapsed times.

DVD is Highlander Season 2 Disc 2. Otherwise the results are fantastic (except for that pesky ooo4 error on stills, hope that's worked out soon.)

My stand alone player is an Apex 5131 if that helps any.

[t1955feb]

DVD-RB: 0.31B
rejig

Popup error:
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort"

DVD ripped to hd using DVD decryptor - File mode - ALL files.
The error popped up during the Rebuild step.

[Toranaga]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Can anyone else confirm this slight stutter/pixelation? I was convinced it had to be the fix I just made...

I just ran Blade II using 0.28 and the audio stutters quite often :(

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by sreemv
DVD-RB: 0.31B
EclCCE: Yes
CCE: 2.67

Popup error:
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort"

Followed by another popup error:
"Stop statement encountered"

The source DVD ripped to HD using DVD decryptor - File mode - ALL files.
The error popped up during the "Rebuild" step.
Trying to backup "Harry Potter Sorcerers Stone".

I must be missing something(?) because this appears to happen with Jurassic Park and I have a feeling will happen with any movie. Please help! This is the known "stills" issue.

[lab-one]

@toranaga

I just ran Blade II using 0.28 and the audio stutters quite often

I think you need to run it through .31 to get a valid finished back-up. Many changes have been made since .28. Read about the changes/updates here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?postid=469702)

[brikin]

JDobbs

I am getting this error

"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort"

with .31 The m2v file this happens on is not a still though so there might be another problem out there causing this.

[Toranaga]

Originally posted by lab-one
@toranaga



I think you need to run it through .31 to get a valid finished back-up. Many changes have been made since .28. Read about the changes/updates here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?postid=469702)

Trying it now. This is an awesome product non-the-less.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Toranaga
I just ran Blade II using 0.28 and the audio stutters quite often :( You need to update to .31 -- there was a major bugfix related to this done between .29 and .30

Note added later: Whoops, I guess I answered this one too late...

[lab-one]

@jdobbs

Note added later: Whoops, I guess I answered this one too late...

Yeah, I can't seem to get motivated to do WORK so I'm avoiding the inevitable here...

[CeanD]

Still getting the buffer error.

Always happens at the same point, when it's rebuilding the compressed m2v's.

[sreemv]

Originally posted by jdobbs
This is the known "stills" issue.

And, this occurs with 90% of the movies? In my case its 100% so far
:( and I have just found this tool.

Is there a way to avoid it? Much appreciated.

[tf]

It's hardly 90%. I've done 15 movies now, and not one of them have had still-issues.

-tf

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by sreemv
And, this occurs with 90% of the movies? In my case its 100% so far
:( and I have just found this tool.

Is there a way to avoid it? Much appreciated. It's been at about 5% for me -- so I think there is something else wrong...

[nwg]

Originally posted by sreemv

And, this occurs with 90% of the movies? In my case its 100% so far
and I have just found this tool.

Is there a way to avoid it? Much appreciated.


For me about the 50% off the DVD's I wanted to try have still frames. The weird thing is Back to the Future (which has photo galleries in the menu) worked with CCE and Rejig but not QuEnc.

I have managed to get round it on some DVD's by using DVD Stripper and manually deleting the photos one by one.

[robw]

I hope this is a clue to the buffer problem. The movie Doctor Zhivago (DVD#1) has a long introduction (1 frame) with several minutes of music. During Rebuild, DVD-RB failed here. If I first run the DVD through DVDReMake 1.4.1 whithout removing the still, DVD-RB successfully processes the DVDReMake output.

[HanSolo00]

DVD-Decrypter = v3.2.1.0
DVD-RB = v0.31
CCE = v2.50
EclCCE = nope
Recorder = Nero 6.3.1.6

I redid my last project, burned and tested, & still get chapter break video stutter in my Norcent DVD player. To eliminate the possibility of an error introduced from my menu editing program (DVD Remake), I started a different project and did the whole thing in DVD-RB. After burning, I still get chapter stutter in my Norcent.

Although I don't get any such stutter in DVD-Shrink/Nero Recode 2/Nero Vision projects, I'm beginning to suspect my cheap DVD player, because the discs play fine on my computer.

Anyone else getting the slight video pauses on chapter breaks? If so, what make/model DVD player? Seems to only happen on the cheaper DVD players.

Otherwise, 0.31 works great for me.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by HanSolo00
DVD-Decrypter = v3.2.1.0
DVD-RB = v0.31
CCE = v2.50
EclCCE = nope
Recorder = Nero 6.3.1.6

I redid my last project, burned and tested, & still get chapter break video stutter in my Norcent DVD player. To eliminate the possibility of an error introduced from my menu editing program (DVD Remake), I started a different project and did the whole thing in DVD-RB. After burning, I still get chapter stutter in my Norcent.

Although I don't get any such stutter in DVD-Shrink/Nero Recode 2/Nero Vision projects, I'm beginning to suspect my cheap DVD player, because the discs play fine on my computer.

Anyone else getting the slight video pauses on chapter breaks? If so, what make/model DVD player? Seems to only happen on the cheaper DVD players.

Otherwise, 0.31 works great for me. I have no doubt that some of the stuttering problems are related to cheap players -- but that still means that DVD-RB is doing something incorrectly, but better players seem to be able to get around it. My goal is to create a DVD-R that is so solid that even a toaster will play it.;)

[robw]

Originally posted by jdobbs
My goal is to create a DVD-R that is so solid that even a toaster will play it.

I tried it out. Put the DVD in my toaster and got a lot of stuttering and pixelation when I grabbed the damn thing while it was still hot. Otherwise DVD-RB 0.31 is working great for me.

Back to the standalone player for now. Let me know if you get the toaster thing working!

[sreemv]

Originally posted by jdobbs
It's been at about 5% for me -- so I think there is something else wrong...

Umm...well I tried 2 movies so far [HP Sorcerer's stone and Jurassicpark] and both had issues - I guess I will try more to find out my %.

But is it posisble to save the first 2 stages [prepare and encode] and possibly use it later when the "still" bug is fixed perhaps?

Thanks for your help!

[chadp1a]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I have no doubt that some of the stuttering problems are related to cheap players -- but that still means that DVD-RB is doing something incorrectly, but better players seem to be able to get around it. My goal is to create a DVD-R that is so solid that even a toaster will play it.;)

maybe a microwave too ;)

[HanSolo00]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I have no doubt that some of the stuttering problems are related to cheap players -- but that still means that DVD-RB is doing something incorrectly, but better players seem to be able to get around it. My goal is to create a DVD-R that is so solid that even a toaster will play it.;)

My kind of programmer;)

If I had to guess, I'd suspect something happening at the end of the CCE M2V's... because other people have told me they've had similar problems on discs redone with CCE. Also, the audio is fine--only the video pauses for a fractional second, as if trying to resync to next chapter's start.

I was pondering deleting the chapter points in the IFO and then converting the main VTS in a single continuous CCE M2V, but adjusting the chapter pointers etc in the IFO and getting it all to work again afterwards would be a headache. Might be worth a try though.

[nwg]

Anyone else getting the slight video pauses on chapter breaks? If so, what make/model DVD player? Seems to only happen on the cheaper DVD players.


My Sony which cost me £380 plays perfectly. My Cyberhome which cost me £50 does not. However only Matrix Revolutions so far is affected.

I have just done it with Rejig rather than CCE to see if there is any difference.

[robw]

I did a small google search on stuttering/pixelation at chapter points. It looks like stuttering and pixelation could fill quite a volume. The following reference may be helpful:

http://www.puremotion.com/cgi-local/ikonboard/topic.cgi?forum=3&topic=152

Many reported cases using a wide range of hardware/software. There can be many causes especially the recording media, the DVD player or the DVD burning software; but special emphasis seems to go to the player in many cases. That is not to say that the encoding software does not play a crucial role. If you vary from the official DVD standard, problems may occur. In this case, players are not equal in terms of their error correction capabilities and stutter can occur during such times.

[Toranaga]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I have no doubt that some of the stuttering problems are related to cheap players -- but that still means that DVD-RB is doing something incorrectly, but better players seem to be able to get around it. My goal is to create a DVD-R that is so solid that even a toaster will play it.;)

My player is a Pioneer DV-545. I would not call that a cheap player.

[tf]

Odd, mine is a Pioneer DV343 - an earlier model - and it does not suffer from the stuttering on the backups I've done with 0.30 and 0.31.

-tf