Old RealAnime discussion

[Sirber]

RealAnime is pretty stable if you don't use non-numeric values :o

Sorry, nothing to report here :confused:

[damrod]

i'm encoding now...still no problem for the second file....very weird...

the error was about memory.... :(

btw i found how to pause/resume the encoding...hope it will work ;)

[Sirber]

I'm gonna add VP6 (VFW codec only) to the NSIS installer. I got on2 approval. About XviD, is it "legal" to use the DLL?

[damrod]

i wonder...it's opensource/gpl so you can distribute source

but the dll is a compiled binary so you msut ask the author of the binary i think...if not legally, you'll be polite :)

[Sirber]

XviD source is GNU, but compiled it's not legal since no one paid for the licenses.

[Latexxx]

Originally posted by Sirber
XviD source is GNU, but compiled it's not legal since no one paid for the licenses.

Of course you can buy a license, but I must warn you. The price is per distributed encoder, no flat-rate, and if you'll acquire a license, it only covers the versions which you distribute. :D

[Sirber]

If I include xvidcore.dll and xvifvfw.dll in RealANime, I'm then illegal?

[lunaticmoon]

Continuation about AFS + RV10 frontend ...

I tried on some frontends this time.
All setting is modeled as long as it could do. (ex. Ellysian turns off, VBR 2-pass, on Windows2000 Professional SP3 ...)

Since there may also be a cause of my poor environment, I want you to stop this result by reference. :devil:

If it collects...

RealAnime2.20CR2+:
RMVB reproduced by rapid traverse was done as a result.

RealAnime2.10;
RMVB reproduced by rapid traverse was done as a result.

RealAnime1.91:
RMVB is reproduced satisfactory.
(However, the unusual end was carried out at the last of processing. It became impossible and to use again.)

RealBatch1.50b:
RMVB is reproduced satisfactory.

RealBatch1.42:
RMVB is reproduced satisfactory.

Easy Real Media Producer 1.8:
RMVB is reproduced satisfactory.

Batch Real Producer 1.5:
It does not progress from 1% of processings.

AutoRV9 1.3:
It cannot choose a lossless middle AVI file as an input.


It seems that something has changed on the Reloaded version at RealAnime if it guesses from a result. :(

In the present condition, in order to obtain smooth RMVB file from hybrid material Anime, it good to use RealBatch or ERMP, I think.

The end of report.
Thanks. ;)

[Sirber]

Can you post a jobfile produced by RealAnime 2.20+ and one produced by one GUI that works?

:logfile: :thanks:

[lunaticmoon]

I am sorry as interrupted in the important place.

XviD has two restraints, GPL and MPEG-LA.

In the country which is incidentally under the influence of MPEG-LA, it is related with XviD ...


Although contents are MPEG-4, since the patent license is not connected, distribution of Japan of a binary is prohibition. However, acquisition and individual use can be performed.


Therefore, in plan of the present Sirber, I think that it will become impossible to distribute RealAnime as "legal" in the country under the influence of MPEG-LA.

[Sirber]

ok, what about your jobfiles? ;)

[lunaticmoon]

@Sirber

Please wait a moment.

Since 2.20RC2+ was erased in order to put in 1.91, it is under re-encoding now... :(

[Sirber]

still waiting ;)

[lunaticmoon]

@Sirber

A log is not found although encoding finished. Can't it take, unless it encodes in command line mode ? Although it may be FAQ, please teach me the acquisition method of a log.

An output result is raised instead. It is with a password. Please ask by IM etc. about a password.

http://br4.bestreseller.com/~cyberlan/dearrv10devs/KG%20%2300%20afs%2060%20with%20RealAnime2.20RC2+.rar

[Sirber]

You need to choose the commandline encoder. SDK don't produce logs.

[lunaticmoon]

Keep you waiting.
commandline mode producer.log is follows.
the reasult RMVB have same problem.


Diagnostic Command Line 2004/09/11 17:55:13 0 "C:\Program Files\RealAnime\producer.exe -j C:\Program Files\RealAnime\temp\anime.rpjf -lc e,i,d" command line being run
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 17:55:13 8050 --------- Input File Properties from rn-avfile-directshow
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 17:55:13 8051 Input Filename: C:\Program Files\RealAnime\temp\anime.avs
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 17:55:13 8052 File Size: 1KB
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 17:55:13 8053 Total Duration: 04:49.355
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 17:55:13 8080 Video Track
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 17:55:13 8081 Dimensions: 640 x 480
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 17:55:13 8082 Frame Rate: 59.940 FPS
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 17:55:13 8083 Format: RGB32
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 17:55:13 8084 Duration: 04:49.355
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 17:55:13 8054 --------- End Input File Properties
Diagnostic SDK Configuration 2004/09/11 17:55:13 10405 Audience RealAnime written to memory
Diagnostic SDK Configuration 2004/09/11 17:55:13 10409 Audience RealAnime loaded from memory
Diagnostic SDK Configuration 2004/09/11 17:55:13 10405 Audience RealAnime written to memory
Diagnostic SDK Configuration 2004/09/11 17:55:13 10409 Audience RealAnime loaded from memory
Informational SDK Encoding 2004/09/11 17:55:13 15000 Starting encode
Diagnostic SDK Encoding 2004/09/11 17:55:13 0 FilteredLoadHeadings: Reference Time, Stream Time, Delay, Interval Load, Average Interval Load, Processing Load, Stream Interval, Reference Interval, Accrued Delay, Average Delay, Load Level
Diagnostic SDK Encoding 2004/09/11 17:55:13 0 Using RealAnime Audience
Diagnostic SDK Encoding 2004/09/11 17:55:13 0 Using video codec: rv10 (600000 bps)
Informational SDK Encoding 2004/09/11 17:55:13 15004 Starting analysis pass
Diagnostic Video Codec 2004/09/11 17:55:13 20049 Setting video packet size to 15000
Diagnostic SDK Encoding 2004/09/11 18:06:47 0 FilteredLoadHeadings: Reference Time, Stream Time, Delay, Interval Load, Average Interval Load, Processing Load, Stream Interval, Reference Interval, Accrued Delay, Average Delay, Load Level
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 18:06:47 8050 --------- Input File Properties from rn-avfile-directshow
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 18:06:47 8051 Input Filename: C:\Program Files\RealAnime\temp\anime.avs
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 18:06:47 8052 File Size: 1KB
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 18:06:47 8053 Total Duration: 04:49.355
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 18:06:47 8080 Video Track
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 18:06:47 8081 Dimensions: 640 x 480
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 18:06:47 8082 Frame Rate: 59.940 FPS
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 18:06:47 8083 Format: RGB32
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 18:06:47 8084 Duration: 04:49.355
Diagnostic File Reader 2004/09/11 18:06:47 8054 --------- End Input File Properties
Diagnostic SDK Encoding 2004/09/11 18:06:47 0 Using RealAnime Audience
Diagnostic SDK Encoding 2004/09/11 18:06:47 0 Using video codec: rv10 (600000 bps)
Informational SDK Encoding 2004/09/11 18:06:47 15005 Starting encoding pass
Diagnostic Video Codec 2004/09/11 18:06:47 20049 Setting video packet size to 15000
Diagnostic File Output 2004/09/11 18:23:36 7040 Finished Writing Volume ID 1.
Diagnostic File Output 2004/09/11 18:23:36 7042 Finished writing RealMedia File.
Informational Statistics 2004/09/11 18:23:36 19010 Out: Total Audio Video Avg Avg Pre- Audience Name
Informational Statistics 2004/09/11 18:23:36 19011 Aud kbps kbps kbps FPS QI roll
Informational Statistics 2004/09/11 18:23:36 19013 S1: 1:1 632 n/a 632 30.0 85 2 RealAnime
Informational Statistics 2004/09/11 18:23:36 19020 Out: Min Min Min Min Audience Name
Informational Statistics 2004/09/11 18:23:36 19021 Aud FPS FPS Time QI QI Time
Informational Statistics 2004/09/11 18:23:36 19022 S2: 1:1 30.0 00:00:02 60 00:00:06 RealAnime
Informational Statistics 2004/09/11 18:23:36 19002 Total Bitrate = 632 kbps
Informational Command Line 2004/09/11 18:23:36 10535 Encoding successful!


regards.:cool:

[Sirber]

Can I see the jobfile?

[lunaticmoon]

After encoding, it did not remain.
This ?


<?xml version="1.0" encoding="US-ASCII"?>
<job xmlns="http://ns.real.com/tools/job.2.0" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:schemaLocation="http://ns.real.com/tools/job.2.0 http://ns.real.com/tools/job.2.0.xsd">
<enableTwoPass type="bool">true</enableTwoPass>
<clipInfo>
<entry>
<name>Author</name>
<value type="string">Encoded with RealAnime</value>
</entry>
</clipInfo>
<parInputs>
<input xsi:type="avFileInput">
<filename type="string">C:\Program Files\RealAnime\temp\anime.avs</filename>
<prefilters>
</prefilters>
</input>
</parInputs>
<parOutputs>
<output>
<destinations>
<destination xsi:type="fileDestination">
<pluginName type="string">rn-file-realmedia</pluginName>
<filename type="string">C:\Capture\Rah\KG #00 afs 60 HY.rmvb</filename>
</destination>
</destinations>
<mediaProfile>
<audioMode type="string">music</audioMode>
<disableAudio type="bool">false</disableAudio>
<disableVideo type="bool">false</disableVideo>
<outputWidth type="uint">0</outputWidth>
<outputHeight type="uint">0</outputHeight>
<resizeQuality type="string">high</resizeQuality>
<videoMode type="string">sharp</videoMode>
<audioResamplingQuality type="string">high</audioResamplingQuality>
<audienceRefs>
<audienceRef>RealAnime</audienceRef>
</audienceRefs>
</mediaProfile>
</output>
</parOutputs>
<audiences>
<audience>
<avgBitrate type="uint">600000</avgBitrate>
<maxBitrate type="uint">3000000</maxBitrate>
<name type="string">RealAnime</name>
<streams>
<stream xsi:type="videoStream">
<pluginName type="string">rn-videocodec-realvideo</pluginName>
<codecName type="string">rv10</codecName>
<codecProperties type="bag">
<noisyEdgeFilter type="bool">true</noisyEdgeFilter>
<firstPassComplexity type="uint">65</firstPassComplexity>
<encoderComplexity type="uint">100</encoderComplexity>
<customPacketSize type="uint">16000</customPacketSize>
<patternAdaptivity type="uint">0</patternAdaptivity >
<inloopCutOffQuant type="uint">9</inloopCutOffQuant>
<inloopCutOffCompatible type="bool">false</inloopCutOffCompatible>
<inloopCutOffBUseRefQuant type="bool">true</inloopCutOffBUseRefQuant>
</codecProperties>
<encodingType type="string">vbrBitrate</encodingType>
<quality type="uint">65</quality>
<maxStartupLatency type="double">60</maxStartupLatency>
<maxFrameRate type="double">60</maxFrameRate>
<maxKeyFrameInterval type="double">10</maxKeyFrameInterval>
</stream>
<stream xsi:type="audioStream">
<codecFlavor type="uint">0</codecFlavor>
<codecName type="string">racp</codecName>
<pluginName type="string">rn-audiocodec-realaudio</pluginName>
<streamContext type="bag">
<audioMode type="string">music</audioMode>
<presentationType type="string">audio-video</presentationType>
</streamContext>
</stream>
</streams>
</audience>
</audiences>
</job>

[Sirber]

Wierd... I don't see anything wrong with it.

[damrod]

Diagnostic SDK Configuration 2004/09/11 17:55:13 10405 Audience RealAnime written to memory
Diagnostic SDK Configuration 2004/09/11 17:55:13 10409 Audience RealAnime loaded from memory
Diagnostic SDK Configuration 2004/09/11 17:55:13 10405 Audience RealAnime written to memory
Diagnostic SDK Configuration 2004/09/11 17:55:13 10409 Audience RealAnime loaded from memory


can someone explain why producer sdk load twice in memory the audience...seems to me a bug no?

[lunaticmoon]

A little report of follow-up.

RealAnime2.20CR2+ with uncheck "Use DirectShow":
still RMVB reproduced by rapid traverse was done as a result.

Weird. :(

[Sirber]

"Double speed in clip with half black screen" would be a better description. What's the FPS of the input?

[vermaccio]

the site
http://www.detritus.qc.ca/
is offline.
it's impossible downloading this application.

what's the problem?

some mirror?

[Sirber]

My ISP has been bought, I lost internet and now they block TCP port 80. I will move the web server to my work. No mirror yet :(

[damrod]

need help sirber???

i have some 100Mo free account so i ca upload your website on one of them ;)

btw pm me you ftp and i will do it :)

oh encoding seems to work again...reinstall directx 9c...
(no problem of directshowsource....will see in some minutes for producer crash ;))

[Sirber]

My website is 3 GB and generate 8GB bandwith / month :D

[damrod]

??????

i was talking about your main webpages about realanime and the exe/src....

[Sirber]

That is around 60MB, and generate 8 GB / month of traffic :D

[edit]

Site with correct IP: http://sirber.no-ip.com/

Lame zoneedit :devil:. Other URL should be ok soon. I'm still gonna switch my web server at work on a dedicated box for maximal uptime.

[damrod]

so much???!!!!

you put what on your server?

[Sirber]

my main site (60MB) and my trip pictures (2.6GB). We could discuss about all that on MSN you know... :p

[lunaticmoon]

About "Double speed in clip with half black screen" problem.

@Sirber

Inputed AVI file have 59.94fps.

It is good to observe the portion changed with the Reloaded version as compared with 1.91, I think.
It is because the problem has not occurred in 1.91.

A certain degrade from 1.91 can be considered.

Please do your best... if there is the time.:)

[Sirber]

Nothing much has changed since 1.91 about file handling. The main chamge is the new producer, new rate control, rv10, new audio codecs. It would be best if you could provide me your source so I can test it myself.

About my host, here was the problem:

Me --> ADSL --> ISP's proxy --> Internet

My IP updater was getting the proxy IP :angry:

[lunaticmoon]

Hmm...

If it is it, I will stand a FTP server by emergency.
And account of Sirber will be published by emergency.

you <-- ADSL <-- ISP's proxy <-- The Internet <-- FTTH <-- me

However, it does not know how many effective speed come out in the condition of a course, and The HuffYUV AVI source is GigaByte order.

Moreover, setting up FTP tonight here may take time for a while.

Shall a fine thing let's contacts by IM ?

[Sirber]

You can contact me by IM. How fast can you upload?

[lunaticmoon]

On domestic FTTH peer, the upload from me is 2000 KByte/sec about.

However, when it tied with the man of max logical speed 256Kbps ADSL of Brazil, only 60 KByte/sec came out about.

That is, it does not become clear unless it does. :D

[Sirber]

I thoeicly have a 3mbps ADSL, but I rarely do more then 1mbps. I mailed my ISP about that...

[lunaticmoon]

About "Double speed in clip with half black screen" problem.

@Sirber,damrod

Is this problem related to the version of Producer?

I am using the default of each frontend.
Is Default Producer the same in RealAnime220RC2+ and RealBatch150b?

[Sirber]

I do not think so. I have the lastest milestone. I think RealBatch is a little older. Gonan test once I get your file. Upload faster!!!

[Sirber]

I plan to add RealVideo G2 and RealAudio ATRAC3 to RealAnime.

[Sirber]

@lunaticmoon

Could you try your source with The G and see if it has problems too? I conclude that the error is producer related. It seems to cut frames badly and add blank ones at the end :confused:

[damrod]

realbatch 1.5b is based upon latest activx before the elysium features
realanime si more recent ;)

[Sirber]

k. gonna update sticky.

[lunaticmoon]

@Sirber

The G 1.0RC2:
RMVB is reproduced satisfactory.
However, the motion of the gradation of a title looked strange.
(Probably it is the characteristic of Ellysian.)

I don't like Curve Compression. :(

[Sirber]

Your file is being send to RN for further analisis. I don't think it's a bug with avisynth or RealAnime, but a bug with producer and 30+ FPS.

[lunaticmoon]

BTW,
Although it thinks that it is not necessary to stand a new thread,

I was investigating the thing of "Extermination RV Organization" in Japanease video community (side of gray zone).

I thought that ERO might have the gathering and relation of a fanatic which are going to set all videos to WMV9.

How should it correspond ? :devil:

thanks.

[Sirber]

You do what you want to :)

RC3 will be out soon:

New:
* Bitrate calculator
* OGM --> MKV
* MKV Stream Selector

Fixed:
* Max framerate set to 60 FPS

Todo:
* Add RealVideo G2 and RealAudio 8 (ATRAC3)
* Add VP6 codec to installer
* Add XviD 1.0.2 codec to installer
* Add more defaults for the resizers
* Add DC Alt. Curve

Known bugs:
* Input at 60FPS may get corrupted
* Leaking memory using AVISynth
* Bitrate calculator may integer overflow :D

[edit]

RealAnime 2.20RC3 is avalible for download on my web site. Have fun!

[DarkNite]

You've made great progress with this project. One thing I always wondered was whether you were doing this project for educational reasons, general amusement (which could be an indicator of masochistic tendencies), or both?

[damrod]

i think he's masochist............


btw sirber you ogm->mkv....does it means you convert ogm to mkv directly with mkbmerge but what happens with multiple audio tracks or subtitles?

[Sirber]

@DarkNite

I started RealAnime first for my personnal uses, then for the public. With more than 2000 download per month, I can say RealAnime is popular :D

@Damrod

OGM converter keeps everything. Then you use MKV sream selector to keep 1 audio stream. Usualy there are only 1 sub track so there are no options to choose one. Then you use DirectVobSub (autoload) to play the sub in the video stream while encoding. Those tools are usualy to manage:

OGM (video, audio english, audio japanese, sub english)

Producer cannot treat that correctly.

[lunaticmoon]

About "Double speed in clip with half black screen" problem.

The evasion measure was found in general in my near problem.

However, I have a question still about whether it is only the problem which are 60fps truly.

It is because the source which I offered is Fake VFR containing NULL frames (60fps accuracy).
It is not certain what becomes supposing it inputs true 60fps source.

Don't anyone have source of true 60fps?

A next thing will be O.K. if Mr.Karl is left ? Do we have the necessity for a supplementary examination? :confused: