List of BD-Rebuilder Compatible Players (BD5\BD9 output)

[DVDIT]

Are you playing it back on funai players, with windvd 9/10 or from disc/image with powerdvd 7/8/9?

If so, don't use strict avchd. If not it probably doesn't matter if your audio is AC3, if it's DTS audio there might be some unknown problems with strict AVCHD.

Thanks. I use PS3, Pioneer BDP-51FD and Samsung 2550 players now. I might get a Denon in the future. I do have PowerDVD 8 and the burned disc would not play with PowerDVD. I don't watch any Blu-ray on my computer so playback problem with PowerDVD don't bother me but it would have been nice if it played back on PowerDVD.

[Capsbackup]

I can confirm turbojet's report that when strict AVCHD is set, I cannot play back an image from my hard drive with PowerDVD 7 or 8.
If not set, image plays fine.( using Virtual CloneDrive )
My Sony BDP-BX1 and S360 will play back either one though, which is mainly where I watch my backups.
I like to use PowerDVD to check playback and audio sync before burning to disc though!
My preference would be to leave BD-RB as is, and those who need to select strict AVCHD for there playback do as is now. :p
I guess when I get use to something, especially that I like, I prefer not to change! :)
SOF. ( stubborn old fart ):cool:

[hautem]

Just an FYI...

Firmware update posted today for the Sony BDP-N460 (UPDATE_BDPN460_VER123.EXE) has not affected it's inability to play BD-Rebuilder re-encodes full disc to BD9 with BD-J menus. Full disc to BD9 with HDMV menus (only) continue to work fine.

[DVDIT]

I made whole disc backup of TV series Damages - disc 1, to BD9 and the disc failed to play on all three blu-ray players I own PS3, pioneer 51FD and Samsung 2550. Burned it three different times but all three failed to play back. Full disc backups don't play back in any player ?

[jdobbs]

I made whole disc backup of TV series Damages - disc 1, to BD9 and the disc failed to play on all three blu-ray players I own PS3, pioneer 51FD and Samsung 2550. Burned it three different times but all three failed to play back. Full disc backups don't play back in any player ? They play on lots of players. But some players don't even support AVCHD, let alone BD on DVD-9.

[DVDIT]

They play on lots of players. But some players don't even support AVCHD, let alone BD on DVD-9.

All my players support AVCHD. Sony PS3, Smasung 2550 and Pioneer BDP-51FD. All three players recognize and play 4 backups of blu-ray movies I did on BD9 so far. Surely it is not a problem of AVCHD playback issue as movie only backup play fine. The problem is with full disc backups. Full backup shows up as data disc on my PS3, not recognized at all on the Samsung and plays fine on my Pioneer but freezes at the beginning of chapter 5. :confused:

[laserfan]

I made whole disc backup of TV series Damages - disc 1, to BD9...When you do get it to play, I would be interested to hear how your backup looks, assuming you made it w/BD-RB.

Just curious because this series has an unusually high number of scenes with some sort of heavy "artificial grain" feature applied, and I would expect it to wreak havoc on quality, especially trying to fit onto BD-9.

[DVDIT]

When you do get it to play, I would be interested to hear how your backup looks, assuming you made it w/BD-RB.

Just curious because this series has an unusually high number of scenes with some sort of heavy "artificial grain" feature applied, and I would expect it to wreak havoc on quality, especially trying to fit onto BD-9.

Yeah, I shrunk it to BD9 with BD-RB. I will let you know if I am able to find the problem. I bought a Pioneer 205BKS today in order to backup TV shows on BR25. Seems to be the safest (most compatible) way to backup whole movie discs.

[laserfan]

Yeah, I shrunk it to BD9 with BD-RB. I will let you know if I am able to find the problem.Assuming you burned it with ImgBurn, I can only suggest fiddling with "booktype", i.e. look at your ImgBurn logs to see how it was burned e.g. "Booktype: DVD-ROM" or "Booktype: DVD+R" and try to burn it the other way. When I've burned mine, they tend to work as DVD-ROM but dunno about your players.

There's an ImgBurn setting "Write, Auto 'Change Book Type'(*)" that's sometimes a gotcha too.

[DVDIT]

Assuming you burned it with ImgBurn, I can only suggest fiddling with "booktype", i.e. look at your ImgBurn logs to see how it was burned e.g. "Booktype: DVD-ROM" or "Booktype: DVD+R" and try to burn it the other way. When I've burned mine, they tend to work as DVD-ROM but dunno about your players.

There's an ImgBurn setting "Write, Auto 'Change Book Type'(*)" that's sometimes a gotcha too.

I have changed the book type to DVD-ROM for all DVD+R DL and DVD+R discs in ImgBurn. That is the settings I have used for years now.

[Brimstone]

An update to my earlier findings... Went to the mall, to a Hi-Fi shop where I know the manager, and tried a problem disc (Up BD25) on an LG BD350, which played absolutely fine... So either there's some kind of bug in the 370's firmware or what, I don't know...

The cheap LG BD270 plays the "full back-ups" just fine on a BD-25. Unfortunately, my Pany DMP-BD30K and DMP-BD55K would not the very same Bluray. They seem to only play the "movie-only" back-ups.

[drmih]

Can I add the praises of a Limit M100 (a £50 player from HMV) [I think it is also available as a momitsu 799 or F+H from ebuyer]. This has just had a firmware update which allows it to play avchd-5; bd-5; avchd-9; bd-9; bd-25; bd-re. Every disc I have done plays including those annoying universal titles which don't output the audio on bd-9 on the Sonys. The player also handles HD mkvs, avis, mp4s off disk or USB.

Oh, it;s also region free for DVD and Blu-ray.

It shows as £80 online but the £50 is in the shops. I have included a link so that you can try and match it to a clone brand in other countries.
http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=280;0;-1;-1;-1&sku=237140

[stinman]

I have watched 2 of my movie only rips that were around 7.50GB.I used the BDRebuilder on the BD9 setting.I used dual layer TDK I bought at Office Depot. They worked,I watched the Marine 2 with Ted Debiase that was done the same way and put it on a BD-RE and it played.Next time I will try movie only with the HD audio,not sure if BDRebuilder will leave the HD audio or not.I have it checked to do this but it always puts DTS at 1510,1536 and any AC3 based TrueHD at 640.
stin

[Capsbackup]

I have watched 2 of my movie only rips that were around 7.50GB.I used the BDRebuilder on the BD9 setting.I used dual layer TDK I bought at Office Depot. They worked,I watched the Marine 2 with Ted Debiase that was done the same way and put it on a BD-RE and it played.Next time I will try movie only with the HD audio,not sure if BDRebuilder will leave the HD audio or not.I have it checked to do this but it always puts DTS at 1510,1536 and any AC3 based TrueHD at 640.
stin

If you have Srict AVCHD Compliant checked, it will reencode the audio.
Try it with that unchecked and make sure you select BD-25.

[jdobbs]

If you have Srict AVCHD Compliant checked, it will reencode the audio.
Try it with that unchecked and make sure you select BD-25. Strict AVCHD doesn't apply to BD-25. BD-25 is never AVCHD in BD-RB (there is no reason). So the audio encoding is dependent on the settings.

[Capsbackup]

Strict AVCHD doesn't apply to BD-25. BD-25 is never AVCHD in BD-RB (there is no reason). So the audio encoding is dependent on the settings.

Yes I thought this is true, but wasn't sure if the OP was just burning his BD9 to BD-RE for a test.
I used dual layer TDK I bought at Office Depot. They worked,I watched the Marine 2 with Ted Debiase that was done the same way and put it on a BD-RE and it played.Next time I will try movie only with the HD audio,not sure if BDRebuilder will leave the HD audio or not.

Anyway, your input is more than welcome anytime. :cool:
Besides, I think you have first hand knowledge! :p

[jdobbs]

Yes I thought this is true, but wasn't sure if the OP was just burning his BD9 to BD-RE for a test. Understood. :cool:

[DK]

the Samsung 1600 did not like FULL movie BD9 backups until i used multiAVCHD to rewrite the material.

NOW full movie backups play fine when burned to a DVD-DL.

c.f. here: CLICK (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1374410&postcount=6903)

[jdobbs]

the Samsung 1600 did not like FULL movie BD9 backups until i used multiAVCHD to rewrite the material.

NOW full movie backups play fine when burned to a DVD-DL.

c.f. here: CLICK (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1374410&postcount=6903)I don't think multiAVCHD does full backups... but it can author menus.

[DK]

well i can only say that i imported the entire folder which your rebuilder gave me as output material and had multiavchd rewrite it and then burned the new data.

is there any kind of data/information i could provide as to the possible differences between the rb output and the material generated by multiavchd?

[datman]

Sorry to jump in here and not be adding anything to the current discussion.

You may have seen my hair-brained posts I am trying to figure out how to get lossless audio simply. Because of difficult to solve delay issues with MKV / Flac backups, I am now thinking a stand-alone player with 6 analog outs is my best bet. I have read these also have their share of problems so I’m in no hurry.

This would use my single 5.1 analog input and I can play BD25 backups as well as originals with full HD audio. I conveniently have 1 open HDMI input on the 3-way switcher. So I can still use my computer for all the BD5 & 9 backups using a optical input.

The player I need would have to play BD 5 & 9 discs and have analog outs. I would ecstatic if a model became available with media-player capabilities. So I could plug a drive in it and play them from it. I have seen a few that have usb inputs but I don’t think that is what they are used for. I would hold out for this option seeing how I will have to pay $4-5 hundred just to get analog audio.

[datman]

What about the LG BD-390?

[datman]

It looks like this one may be what I need. What I didn’t find out from skimming the thread is; If it will play BD5&9 backups, it looks like movie only will play and using the USB input if I convert my BP25 backups to MKV and keep HD-audio (not converting it to Flac) they can be played through the BD390. There may be a problem with NTFS vs FAT32 file. If it’s limited to fat32 there is a 4g limit.

If I can confirm that it will work I found it for $258. Most dealer no longer stock it because the 2010 models will soon be out and I may not find a dealer to demo the unit so if anyone know this player and if I’m correct in hoping that it will work Please let me know.

[dannotto]

There may be a problem with NTFS vs FAT32 file. If it’s limited to fat32 there is a 4g limit.

European LG BD370 it is limited to 4Gb file size (FAT32). LG BD390 have NTFS support.

[pkho]

I thought PS3 should have no problem playback full movie copy with BD25. I just compress two BD50 movies to BD25 (Transformers and Space Buddies). They both start fine in PS3, warning and menus. But when it reach the main movie it is black with sound. I can see the pop up menu but the movie itself is always black. I recently update my PS3 to 3.15. Is there a known issue for PS3 not playing backup BD-R or something else? The same disc works fine with my Sony S550.

[datman]

It looks like this one may be what I need. What I didn’t find out from skimming the thread is; If it will play BD5&9 backups, it looks like movie only will play and using the USB input if I convert my BP25 backups to MKV and keep HD-audio (not converting it to Flac) they can be played through the BD390. There may be a problem with NTFS vs FAT32 file. If it’s limited to fat32 there is a 4g limit.

If I can confirm that it will work I found it for $258. Most dealer no longer stock it because the 2010 models will soon be out and I may not find a dealer to demo the unit so if anyone know this player and if I’m correct in hoping that it will work Please let me know.

I ended up getting one and it will not play MKV files. The analog audio leaves much to be desired. The 7.1 analog only works when play off a disc all folders are 2ch. I think it was only included as a selling point for saps like me that won’t change their processor. I guess I understand "now" that when it comes to analog what I have is as good as it will "ever" get.

It plays all my BD5 discs, even wall-e my very first encode from 1.5 years ago and none of my BD25 discs, go figure.

It did integrate good with my modem and the netflix is nice. It will play all my BD5 folders so far not one BD25 folder. Using the spdif out the multichannel audio works.

Guess I got what I wanted a media player that plays BD discs

[SLOVEHEART]

Hi All:

I have looked over much of this thread and not much has been said about Oppo standalones - I have a friend who I sent two BD25 to DVD9 recodes (FULL backups) (one DVD-ROM - other DVD+R DL booktype) of Ocean's twelve and Thirteen; he has the OPPO BDP-83 and both played well in his player - I am thinking of getting an OPPO BDP-80 - I have a Sony BDP-S360 which works very well, but after 5 months of hard use - I had to send it in to the factory - they say they can't find anything wrong with it - but I made a copy of Beyond a Reasonable Doubt (2009 - Region A) decrypted with AnydvdHD and the Sony would stick every 4-11 minutes - this flick uses MKB v16 - I don't know if that has anything to do with the problem - but it played fine in a Panasonic BD80 - which usually spits out anything vaugely different - it is very picky.

My question here is about the talk concerning BD-J menus - are these the Universal Studio made discs - When I decrypt them with AnydvdHD - it states that Java signatures have been fixed...could someone explain more about BD-J menus and what discs have them - how to tell if they are present and why HDMV menus work well with BD-RB while the BD-J menu discs are causing trouble - I recently decrypted a Universal Studio disk and the Java signatures were "fixed" - then I ran it through BD-RB and made a BD25 copy - it played fine in the Sony BDP-S360 - I have read that this Sony will play the BD-J discs - while other players have trouble...

If I end up with an OPPO 80 - I will post my experiences with it - I would really like to know more about the BD-J issue - so that I could test the OPPO with regard to that situation and be able to relay the OPPO's performance with them... :)

[deank]

The easiest and fastest way to check if the disc has BD-J menus is to check JAR or BDJO folders. If you see *.bdjo or *.jar files it means the disc is java authored.

Another option is to start index.bdmv with BDedit and you'll see some of the titles marked as BD-J.

"Signatures fixed" means that anydvd opens the JAR files, changes some of the contents and then re-packs the jar, while updating the manifest and signature files. Otherwise the disc won't play at all.

Unless BD-Rebuilder changes something in these folders/files (which I doubt) there should be no reason for these discs not to work. Of course, some players won't even start a DVD5/DVD9 disc if there is something in the java folders or there are BD-J titles in the index file.

[dread]

I didn't watched development of a bd-rebuilder/x264 for a few months...

Is there some kind of fix for panasonic bd-players with 24p issue (blank screen when 24p function is on with x264 streams) ?

[jdobbs]

Has anyone tried the Sony BDP-370 yet? It looks really nice, and includes Netflix support. I was just wondering if it also plays back BD-5/9 full backups.

[Ch3vr0n]

Just adding that the Panasonic DMP-BD60 plays the BD25/50's from BDRB without a hitch. Dno bout the BD5/9's, don't really need those.

[raul124]

confirm panasonic DBP-30 BD do not play full copy to BD9 or BD5. Movie only: full copy to BD25 no problem:

[kshock]

I have a Sony BVD-E300 and use BD-RB as described in the top post of the bug thread, I have done STAR TREK and 2012 to Optical Quantum BD-25 and TDK DVD+R DL as BD/9 both run great. I did movie only english only sub strict AVCHD. About 20 hrs to do each. The only changes I have made is to check all in the Blu Ray audio. Love the Program and thanks for you hard work JDobbs!!

[user822]

Hi Guys

Does someone know if the BD-P1500 with Firmware 2.6 works?

Firmware 1.3 worked and 2.0 did not work for Full disc playback


Greetings
user

[Mark_Venture]

What about the LG BD-390?
My LG BD-390 has played every backup I've made with BD-Rebuilder (mix of BD5, BD9 and BD25, mostly movie only, but a few full disc backups too), as well as any 5 and 9 made by MultiAVHCD.

[deank]

Do you remember what output mode did you use with multiAVCHD when writing to DVD5/DVD9 and what version of multiAVCHD?

It is very important to me if you can share this information. If you used [Blu-ray] output it is the same as [Full mode] in BD-Rebuilder.

[Mark_Venture]

Do you remember what output mode did you use with multiAVCHD when writing to DVD5/DVD9 and what version of multiAVCHD?

It is very important to me if you can share this information. If you used [Blu-ray] output it is the same as [Full mode] in BD-Rebuilder.Are you asking me?

I used the default settings for both BD-Rebuilder, and MultiAVCHD.

In multiAVCHD, I add my video file (usually .MKV), then I click Start. I usually pick "AVCHD Compatible Players" because it mentions DVD R/RW or BD-R/RE and I'm burning to either +R or +R DL. Since "For all Blu-ray players" mentions only burning to BD-R/RE, I wasn't sure if I could burn that output to DVD-5/9 and use it.

[datman]

My LG BD-390 has played every backup I've made with BD-Rebuilder (mix of BD5, BD9 and BD25, mostly movie only, but a few full disc backups too), as well as any 5 and 9 made by MultiAVHCD.

what media are you using. I picked the wrong media:mad:

[Mark_Venture]

what media are you using. I picked the wrong media:mad:
I use Sony +R and Verbatim +R DL picked up at Best Buy. The last batch of the Sony's I got came from BJ's.

[datman]

I use Sony +R and Verbatim +R DL picked up at Best Buy. The last batch of the Sony's I got came from BJ's.

what about BD25 media. Any BD5 seems to play

[Mark_Venture]

what about BD25 media. Any BD5 seems to play
Verbatim BD-R 4x 3packs from Best Buy (box has Verbatim #96928 on it, made in Taiwan). And a single Sony 2x BD-RE picked up at Staples when I thought I had bad media.

Verbatim +R DL have #95310 on the side, made in Singapore.

Also some Verbatim +R (single layer) with #95037 on the side, made in Taiwan.

The sony's... I don't have the cover on the spindle anymore... but the old 1-8x were 50DPR47LSS (I still have a 50 pack of those), and the new ones are 1-16x and I think they might be 100DPR47RS4 but I think there is a new part number for them now.

[datman]

Thanks Mark that is good to know. I'll pick up the Verbatim BD-R 4x from BB and give them a try. :thanks:

what about Verbatim 25GB 4X BD-R 10 Packs Spindle Box Disc Model 96769 newegg has them for $35 free shipping too

[Mark_Venture]

Thanks Mark that is good to know. I'll pick up the Verbatim BD-R 4x from BB and give them a try. :thanks:

what about Verbatim 25GB 4X BD-R 10 Packs Spindle Box Disc Model 96769 newegg has them for $35 free shipping too

I believe that is the 10 pack version of the Verbatim 3pk I got.

[user822]

i just made a Network Update for my Samsung BD-P1500 and BD9 plays fine!

seems like blu ray structure on Dvd was re-activated

[The_Unknown]

Hello,

I have a question concerning BD25-playback on standalone players. In the first posting there is mentioned that BD25 will work on most of the standalone players. Is this really true? I read several posts on the internet saying that there are problems between BD-RB and standalone players.

I ask this because I plan to buy such a standalone player, for example the Samsung BD-P1600.

And does BD-RB work with ALL BDs on the market?

[DK]

I haven't had a single problem with any BD-R/RE 25 on my Samsung 1600.

Of course i can't speak for "all BDs on the market"

[The_Unknown]

And all these where shrinked by DVD-RB from BD50 to BD25?

[DK]

Yap - full movie as well as movie only.

[raul124]

Has anybody tested this Sony BDs570 with BD5/9 full backups? I have the Panasonic BD30 in witch is not compatible with BD5/9 and it pretty old now, I am looking for a newer model with Netflix streaming and wireless connection and see if someone here knows if this new model or any other new model will be compatible BD5/9 full copy backup. thanks in advance... Muchas Gracias!!

[Nerz]

I haven't noticed anyone writing anything about vizio players. I have a Vizio vbr110 and it works with BD-9. It also works well with LTH BD-25s.