List of BD-Rebuilder Compatible Players (BD5\BD9 output)

[archaeo]

Fully Compatible (Menu + advanced Menus including BD-J\Movie both play perfectly)

Sony BDP-S300\S350\S500\S550
...more feedback from Sony BDP-SXXX owners appreciated)



Does anyone have any feedback on the S-300 series? I've read in some forums and reviews that the player seems to have some freezing issues, and requires frequent firmware updates in order to play newer BR discs.
I'm wondering if this translates into it having issues with playback of BD Rebuilder generated backups, which could be mistaken as bugs?

[GaPony]

jdobbs uses the BDP-S301... Since he's the author, I would guess that he's getting pretty good results for that player.

[jdobbs]

I can tell you that the Sony BD-S301 is going to be the best debugged player in the world for the output of BD-RB... :) I have no freezing issues -- but I can say that it is not the fastest loading player in the world. Discs with BD-J can sometimes be annoying with their "Loading..." and graphical "I'll be with you when I get around to it" animations on the S300 series.

On the plus side -- it seems to play just about any format you can throw at it. I didn't realize just how resilient it was until I started getting reports from the other players. I can tell you that if I spent good money on a player that rejects simple AVCHD discs --- I'd be taking it back. I hate rewarding a manufacturer who failed to think ahead.

I've never found a commercial disc that wouldn't play. I updated the firmware once shortly after I bought it.

[archaeo]

I can tell you that the Sony BD-S301 is going to be the best debugged player in the world for the output of BD-RB... :) I have no freezing issues -- but I can say that it is not the fastest loading player in the world. Discs with BD-J can sometimes be annoying with their "Loading..." and graphical "I'll be with you when I get around to it" animations on the S300 series.

On the plus side -- it seems to play just about any format you can throw at it. I didn't realize just how resilient it was until I started getting reports from the other players. I can tell you that if I spent good money on a player that rejects simple AVCHD discs --- I'd be taking it back. I hate rewarding a manufacturer who failed to think ahead.

I've never found a commercial disc that wouldn't play. I updated the firmware once shortly after I bought it.

Good news :D
Yeah, I had heard about the loading times :eek:, but also have heard about it's reliability - in one forum, they nicknamed the S300 as the 'tank'. Slow, but sturdy and reliable.

I'm going to go ahead with the S300 primarily because of the reason you mentioned - you're testing with it! :) but it doesn't hurt that they seem to be very well priced right now.

[GaPony]

jdobbs should buy a truckload of S301s on the cheap and sell them at a profit...including a free copy of BD-Rebuilder. His recession (if he has one) could be over very quickly. :)

I thought buying the S-301, but have had good success with my S550, and it loads all my movies in a reasonable time.

[Furiousflea]

jdobbs should buy a truckload of S301s on the cheap and sell them at a profit...including a free copy of BD-Rebuilder. His recession (if he has one) could be over very quickly. :)

I thought buying the S-301, but have had good success with my S550, and it loads all my movies in a reasonable time.

The S550 is equal to the S301 as far as BD backups playback go. Better in most other ways. You can still pickup the 301 for cheap, I think the S350 replaced it but it doesn't have onboard analogue outputs. Would have gone for the 301 myself if it wasn't for the atrocious BDJ playback. In hindsight prolly should have done and saved £100 but there we go eh.

[Furiousflea]

Good news :D
Yeah, I had heard about the loading times :eek:, but also have heard about it's reliability - in one forum, they nicknamed the S300 as the 'tank'. Slow, but sturdy and reliable.

I'm going to go ahead with the S300 primarily because of the reason you mentioned - you're testing with it! :) but it doesn't hurt that they seem to be very well priced right now.

It's thought of as a better overall package than the S350, if you can handle the slow loading of BDJ discs then go for it. I wouldn't worry about compatibility with any sony SXXX player though, they all seem to play backups at an equal level. I haven't read jdobbs clarifying of some discs with no audio on the main feature but I would hazard a guess his player will exhibit the same behaviour.

[jdobbs]

I've done a LOT of discs (all NTSC), and haven't had one with a silent audio track yet.

[Furiousflea]

I've done a LOT of discs (all NTSC), and haven't had one with a silent audio track yet.

Thats interesting to know, did you get round to doing the "The Matrix" in the end and checking if that gave you the no audio\subs for main feature scenario on your player. I remember a few days ago you were about to try it (full disc) then you got sidetracked with the x264 bug and put it on hold?

Thanks, Rob

[drmih]

I think I was the main person who reported being unable to play the audio track on some universal discs - it is there but you can't select it on the sony. I have done The Matrix and that was okay. The titles are the ones with True HD only audio, which is about 11Gb when demuxed.

The titles I have tried are:

The Mummy
Bourne Identity
Bourne Supremacy
Bourne Ultimatum

All to bd-9

[jdobbs]

I think I was the main person who reported being unable to play the audio track on some universal discs - it is there but you can't select it on the sony. I have done The Matrix and that was okay. The titles are the ones with True HD only audio, which is about 11Gb when demuxed.

The titles I have tried are:

The Mummy
Bourne Identity
Bourne Supremacy
Bourne Ultimatum

All to bd-9My system is a Sony also. I have yet to have seen an issue. Can you list some more titles -- I don't have any of these. Are you using the tracks that are demuxed by BD-RB or are you using something else, because 11GB doesn't sound right for a BD-RB demux?

[Wombler]

The S550 is equal to the S301 as far as BD backups playback go. Better in most other ways. You can still pickup the 301 for cheap, I think the S350 replaced it but it doesn't have onboard analogue outputs. Would have gone for the 301 myself if it wasn't for the atrocious BDJ playback. In hindsight prolly should have done and saved £100 but there we go eh.

Plus the S350 doesn't have onboard decoding of DTD-HD Master Audio whereas the S550 does which is an important factor for those of us with older AV amps.


Wombler

[Furiousflea]

Plus the S350 doesn't have onboard decoding of DTD-HD Master Audio whereas the S550 does which is an important factor for those of us with older AV amps.


Wombler

:)....

[drmih]

My system is a Sony also. I have yet to have seen an issue. Can you list some more titles -- I don't have any of these. Are you using the tracks that are demuxed by BD-RB or are you using something else, because 11GB doesn't sound right for a BD-RB demux?

These are the only ones I've had this with. I did try to do one of them again but selected not to process the audio and although set to bd-9 the images came in at over 12Gb.

As i said it must be something confusing the Sony as the audio is definitely there and the discs play fine on a pc with powerdvd.

[jdobbs]

There has to be something strange about those particular titles or how you are processing on your system. I'm not getting other reports of oversizing like that.

How long is the content as seen by BD-RB for those discs?

[jdobbs]

Plus the S350 doesn't have onboard decoding of DTD-HD Master Audio whereas the S550 does which is an important factor for those of us with older AV amps.


Wombler After this thread reminded me that I hadn't updated in a while, I noticed on the Sony site that support for internal decoding of TrueHD and Dolby Digital Plus have been added in the latest firmware for the S301, so I downloaded and updated.

[drmih]

There has to be something strange about those particular titles or how you are processing on your system. I'm not getting other reports of oversizing like that.

How long is the content as seen by BD-RB for those discs?

I will check it out later when I'm home but I only tried again on one disc to leave the audio untouched when it was 12GB. All of them were processed perfectly and if I only had a pc I wouldn't even know there was an issue.

[Wombler]

After this thread reminded me that I hadn't updated in a while, I noticed on the Sony site that support for internal decoding of TrueHD and Dolby Digital Plus have been added in the latest firmware for the S301, so I downloaded and updated.

Ohh that's interesting.

I must check and see if that's the case for the S350 as well as it would be on my shortlist otherwise.

I haven't got a blu-ray player yet but have been checking them out recently as I'm thinking of buying one (if I can get a good enough deal).


Wombler

[deank]

(just a bit off-topic) I'm a small step away of buying a BD player. Here we have in store SONY BDP-S300B for 200EUR and it includes:

1. 1x SONY BDP-S300B
2. 1x SONY 21 BR DISK BUNDLE
3. 1x SONY CASINO ROYAL BR DISK BUNDLE
4. 1x SONY MADE OF HONOR BR DISK BUNDLE (probably misspelled MAID of honor)
5. 1x SONY OPEN 1 BR DISK BUNDLE

Does anyone has any idea what 2 and 5 are?

I'd like to buy one that I need to know will work with BD-RB output on :) any :) media. And what is this "B" in the 300B name?

edit: I just thought a bit and may be these are "21 Grams" and "Open season 1"...

[drmih]

(just a bit off-topic) I'm a small step away of buying a BD player. Here we have in store SONY BDP-S300B for 200EUR and it includes:

1. 1x SONY BDP-S300B
2. 1x SONY 21 BR DISK BUNDLE
3. 1x SONY CASINO ROYAL BR DISK BUNDLE
4. 1x SONY MADE OF HONOR BR DISK BUNDLE (probably misspelled MAID of honor)
5. 1x SONY OPEN 1 BR DISK BUNDLE

Does anyone has any idea what 2 and 5 are?

I'd like to buy one that I need to know will work with BD-RB output on :) any :) media. And what is this "B" in the 300B name?

edit: I just thought a bit and may be these are "21 Grams" and "Open season 1"...

I think it's the region - B for Europe. The only other possibility is that it specifies the colour - black.

[deank]

Thanks. I think of going there and try the player with a backup and see what happens.

[turbojet]

21 I'm guessing stars Kevin Spacey (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478087/)

[Furiousflea]

21 I'm guessing stars Kevin Spacey (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0478087/)

Correct....

I loved it, but then I love kevin spacey and he should be a god.:p

[Wombler]

Ohh that's interesting.

I must check and see if that's the case for the S350 as well as it would be on my shortlist otherwise.

I haven't got a blu-ray player yet but have been checking them out recently as I'm thinking of buying one (if I can get a good enough deal).


Wombler

@jdobbs

Nope!

It seems that those updates haven't filtered through to the European firmwares yet.

If it's possible on the S301 then hopefully the S350 will eventually be capable of doing this as well.

At least you're sorted though.


Wombler

[GaPony]

Correct....

I loved it, but then I love kevin spacey and he should be a god.:p

He did play an alien once... I'm not so sure about a god. :D

[DrKajun]

LG BD300 Blu-Ray Player:
DVD9 (Movie Only) - Tested Good on RiData
DVD9 (BD-J Movie) - Failed on RiData
BD-R (BD-J Movie) - Tested Good on RiData
BD-R RW (BD-J Movie) - Tested Good on RiData

Question:
I tried to do a Full with BD-J menus on DVD9 and the player quicky stated it was a BDMV then posted an error. For giggles I removed the AuxData folder seeing it helped other players. It then stated the disc was a AVCHD disc and looks like it was reading the disc only to post an error that the regions between the player and Disc where different. AnyDVD says the disc has no Region. In ImgBurn I can't find a place to specify a Region to make the disc .. All my burns seem to have no Region (but the BD-R's work) ... so I guess I am confused. Should I be burning with like a Region A, and if so who do I set it up?

[Furiousflea]

LG DB300 Blu-Ray Player:
DVD9 (Movie Only) - Tested Good on RiData
DVD9 (BD-J Movie) - Failed on RiData
BD-R (BD-J Movie) - Tested Good on RiData
BD-R RW (BD-J Movie) - Tested Good on RiData

Question:
I tried to do a Full with BD-J menus on DVD9 and the player quicky stated it was a BDMV then posted an error. For giggles I removed the AuxData folder seeing it helped other players. It then stated the disc was a AVCHD disc and looks like it was reading the disc only to post an error that the regions between the player and Disc where different. AnyDVD says the disc has no Region. In ImgBurn I can't find a place to specify a Region to make the disc .. All my burns seem to have no Region (but the BD-R's work) ... so I guess I am confused. Should I be burning with like a Region A, and if so who do I set it up?

I can't answer your question but thanks for posting the information will update OP. Only thing I can say is that the behaviour you witnessed of non-playback\disc being detected as AVCHD is typical with reports from other people.

I don't think setting any region etc is going to make any difference and the player reporting this as a problem is just a red herring for - it's not reading it properly due to it being on DVD9

[DrKajun]

I can't answer your question but thanks for posting the information will update OP. Only thing I can say is that the behaviour you witnessed of non-playback\disc being detected as AVCHD is typical with reports from other people.

I don't think setting any region etc is going to make any difference and the player reporting this as a problem is just a red herring for - it's not reading it properly due to it being on DVD9

Thanks for the reply, I made a typo :). Its a "LG BD300" sorry. Should have never sold my Sony BDP-S301 to my neighbor .. lol oh well.

[sype]

Is this thread for stand alone players only, or can we discuss PC software compatibility,
I do movie only backups onto verbatim DVD9,
All work perfectly in my PS3.
None work on my Sony vaio using Intervideo WinDVD BD. Untill i changed the setting, Stricter AVCHD compliance for movie only.
This has solved my problems but i cant get any backups to play in my friends acer laptop using acer arcade software.
Sorry if im in the wrong thread.

[treeboy]

I have a Philips BDP 7200 that has been able to play ever movie-only (BD-5 & BD-9) backup I have done with BD-RB with the exception of one, that being 40 Year Old Virgin. 40 YOV has multiple M2TS files and I assume this is the reason for failure as all the rest of the movies have been single M2TS's and as stated earlier all have been successful. I haven't tried a complete backup yet as I haven't purchased any BD-25's but perhaps I'll try it to a BD-9 just to see.

[Furiousflea]

Is this thread for stand alone players only, or can we discuss PC software compatibility,
I do movie only backups onto verbatim DVD9,
All work perfectly in my PS3.
None work on my Sony vaio using Intervideo WinDVD BD. Untill i changed the setting, Stricter AVCHD compliance for movie only.
This has solved my problems but i cant get any backups to play in my friends acer laptop using acer arcade software.
Sorry if im in the wrong thread.

Standalones only, there's always a way to get things working on a computer with a bit of work. On the other hand that isn't the case with a bluray player. Thanks for posting in the thread though.


I have a Philips BDP 7200 that has been able to play ever movie-only (BD-5 & BD-9) backup I have done with BD-RB with the exception of one, that being 40 Year Old Virgin. 40 YOV has multiple M2TS files and I assume this is the reason for failure as all the rest of the movies have been single M2TS's and as stated earlier all have been successful. I haven't tried a complete backup yet as I haven't purchased any BD-25's but perhaps I'll try it to a BD-9 just to see.

Thanks, will add info to the list :) Would be great if you could check compatibility with BD9 full movie too if you don't mind wasting a DL disc on ot ;)

...Also your 40 yov can be solved though by extracting the streams you want to keep with eac3to and then creating bd output in tsmuxer (pretty much just follow the hd dvd -> bluray guide I've written in the BACKUP guide thread, it works on the same principle of extracting all the stuff you want and eac3to can fix and dodgy m2ts synching errors and give you full raw video\audio streams for muxing in tsmuxer)


(it's very easy! ;))

[alluringreality]

The is a thread for listing known compatible and incompatible Bluray players with regards to playback of BD-ROM video structure on a DVD+R\-R\DL, also known as BD5 and BD9.

It is NOT a thread for listing players that are capable of AVCHD\Patched BD9\Anthing Else.

Like previously stated, the above quote is not consistent with the following.

PS3 does NOT support full movie discs currently but DOES support movie only discs, apologies for the confusion and changing of catergory

It's well-documented that the PS3 needs the AVCHD info in index.bdmv to play like other movie discs. The Movie Only output must be using the AVCHD info if the PS3 will play it outside file mode. If you are not familiar with the AVCHD info then run a true Blu-ray file (not tsMuxer or TsRemux) through AVCHD-Patcher to see the added information. There isn't necessarily much difference between Blu-ray and AVCHD file structure, but Blu-ray files never actually include the AVCHD information at the end of the index file. My main point is just that the Movie Only section of the post is basically documenting how to get AVCHD files to play on different players, which is worthwhile but not exactly in line with the stated intent.

[Furiousflea]

Like previously stated, the above quote is not consistent with the following.



It's well-documented that the PS3 needs the AVCHD info in index.bdmv to play like other movie discs. The Movie Only output must be using the AVCHD info if the PS3 will play it outside file mode. If you are not familiar with the AVCHD info then run a true Blu-ray file (not tsMuxer or TsRemux) through AVCHD-Patcher to see the added information. There isn't necessarily much difference between Blu-ray and AVCHD file structure, but Blu-ray files never actually include the AVCHD information at the end of the index file. My main point is just that the Movie Only section of the post is basically documenting how to get AVCHD files to play on different players, which is worthwhile but not exactly in line with the stated intent.

edit - see GaPony's post below, I was incorrect as I also assumed the ps3 needed AVCHD patching but it does not.

[GaPony]

Just set BD-Rebuilder for Movie Only and the PS3 will see it and play it as an AVCHD disc... no patches, or structural changes required. I think we may have confused this issue early on with the AVCHD discussion and what was needed on various players.

[Furiousflea]

Just set BD-Rebuilder for Movie Only and the PS3 will see it and play it as an AVCHD disc... no patches, or structural changes required. I think we may have confused this issue early on with the AVCHD discussion and what was needed on various players.

lol yep "not this again" I hear you thinking ;)

Good, I'm pleased that's thase I do hope "the case is closed" so to speak :)

[GaPony]

You must be a mind reader... :)

[alluringreality]

Just set BD-Rebuilder for Movie Only and the PS3 will see it and play it as an AVCHD disc... no patches, or structural changes required.

The PS3 requires the AVCHD item at the end of index.bdmv to play as a video disk. BD-Rebuilder does currently include the information associated with AVCHD files when Movie Only is selected, so it will play on the PS3. My comment is simply that the Movie Only output doesn't appear completely in line with "BD-ROM video structure".

[GaPony]

When I did my first Movie Only copies (back with version 17.11 & 17.13) BD-Rebuilder didn't have that additional setting. All my movie only copies played great on the PS3. They didn't play on my Samsung BDP-2500... however after using the AVCHD specific settings in later versions they played on the BDP-2500 and PS3.

You are correct that a Movie Only copy doesn't conform to the standard BD-ROM structure. Many players are forgiving enough to play them as AVCHD with no additional help, others need the "Stricter compliance for AVCHD" setting to be enabled. I'm not 100% sure even all PS3s work the same after discussing this with someone who has a PAL version of the PS3. Its become one of those "Try it and see what happens, things". Blu-Ray manufacturers would be well advised to come up with some common standard for Blu-Ray, in a similar way to those adopted by DVD manufacturers. If they did, we wouldn't need to be compiling a compatibility list. :)

[Furiousflea]

The PS3 requires the AVCHD item at the end of index.bdmv to play as a video disk. BD-Rebuilder does currently include the information associated with AVCHD files when Movie Only is selected, so it will play on the PS3. My comment is simply that the Movie Only output doesn't appear completely in line with "BD-ROM video structure".

Technically the list might be wrong. But if what you say is true and has GaPony has said in the post after yours with the Samsung player needing this info too...Where are we supposed to find users knowledgeable and with the inclination to bother finding out if their players needs this extra info.

I gueess maybe the thread title and text in op could do with changing to imply BD5\BD9 with BD-Rebuilder. But I suppose the fact I'm mentioning "movie only" and "full disc" in the op and it being in the DVD Rebuilder forum should assume people are using BD-Rebuilder.

Futhermore the list was only intended as help for jdobbs and to stop the forum being swamped with "does xxx player support xxx" and be as concise as possible. Still...I see your point but not a lot I can do as it could well be that ALL those "movie only" players need the AVCHD information?

[Furiousflea]

When I did my first Movie Only copies (back with version 17.11 & 17.13) BD-Rebuilder didn't have that additional setting. All my movie only copies played great on the PS3. They didn't play on my Samsung BDP-2500... however after using the AVCHD specific settings in later versions they played on the BDP-2500 and PS3.

You are correct that a Movie Only copy doesn't conform to the standard BD-ROM structure. Many players are forgiving enough to play them as AVCHD with no additional help, others need the "Stricter compliance for AVCHD" setting to be enabled. I'm not 100% sure even all PS3s work the same after discussing this with someone who has a PAL version of the PS3. Its become one of those "Try it and see what happens, things". Blu-Ray manufacturers would be well advised to come up with some common standard for Blu-Ray, in a similar way to those adopted by DVD manufacturers. If they did, we wouldn't need to be compiling a compatibility list. :)

I *think* there is a standard for BD playback on BD9 like HD DVD "3x" playback on dvd. It's just the manufacturers (most) don't follow it as there are no DVD-ROM releases officially so no need to as far as they are concerned.

[GaPony]

I'm sure there is a standard... stuffed away in some dusty file drawer. It appears that nobody has read it. You're even having a hard time getting 10 players confirmed as being able to play anything the same. It gets to be a bit frustrating. I have 3 different players that all act quite differently from one another. The only thing they all have in common is that they all play original Blu-Ray movies. :(

You took on quite a challenge...

[jdobbs]

I think you nailed the real issue here. Standards set certain things, and then manufacturers implement what they see is compliant -- but they all do it different ways. It took DVD a while to get all players fairly common too. Right now we're still in the infancy of BD and the "standard" is interpreted differently by lots of different OEM firmware developers. They probably pass everything in the BD certification software -- but it's in they gray areas that we run into issues.

While the basics of any standard are set in specs -- the unclear fringes of stardards are all established de-facto.

[laserfan]

I *think* there is a standard for BD playback on BD9 like HD DVD "3x" playback on dvd. It's just the manufacturers (most) don't follow it as there are no DVD-ROM releases officially so no need to as far as they are concerned.As I mentioned in the BD-RB thread, some players appear to treat DVD-ROM discs (the book-type, not the content) as "1x only" thus in order to get discs to spin at >1x (e.g. for BD-5 or 9) you need to burn them as DVD+R or DVD+R DL.

[jdobbs]

I *think* there is a standard for BD playback on BD9 like HD DVD "3x" playback on dvd. It's just the manufacturers (most) don't follow it as there are no DVD-ROM releases officially so no need to as far as they are concerned. Definitely 3x for BD-5/9. Not sure about AVCHD, but I seem to recall 2x from somewhere.

[kilbowie54]

New to the forum but I’ve been a long time lurker and learned a huge amount from everyone that posts on here.
PC is Intel Q6600 quad core, 3GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD2600 PRO, Vista 32 bit.
I want to say “thanks” to Jdobbs for all his hard work in developing BD Rebuilder.
I’ve been using it for a few weeks and I’ve successfully backed up several of my blu-ray discs to BD9 & BD5 using versions 1809, 1904 & 1906. The results always played well on an older Sony BDP-S300 but wouldn’t play at all on my Denon DVD2500BT. I don’t have a Playstation so I can’t comment.
I then downloaded version 2001 and followed the following procedure:
· Decrypt original disc using AnyDVDHD.
· Use eac3to to identify main movie m2ts file.
· Use tsMuxeR_1.8.18(b) to remux the file to a new m2ts, removing unwanted subtitles & audio.
· Use tsMuxeR_1.8.18 (b) to create BDMV & CERTIFICATE folders from the new m2ts file.
· Use BD-RBV02001 to “shrink” to either BD9 or BD5. Let it run overnight.
· Use ImgBurn to create .iso from the result and burn to Verbatim 8XDVD+R DL.

This method produces a BD9 or BD5 that plays without any problem on the Denon 2500BT.

[Furiousflea]

New to the forum but I’ve been a long time lurker and learned a huge amount from everyone that posts on here.
PC is Intel Q6600 quad core, 3GB RAM, ATI Radeon HD2600 PRO, Vista 32 bit.
I want to say “thanks” to Jdobbs for all his hard work in developing BD Rebuilder.
I’ve been using it for a few weeks and I’ve successfully backed up several of my blu-ray discs to BD9 & BD5 using versions 1809, 1904 & 1906. The results always played well on an older Sony BDP-S300 but wouldn’t play at all on my Denon DVD2500BT. I don’t have a Playstation so I can’t comment.
I then downloaded version 2001 and followed the following procedure:
· Decrypt original disc using AnyDVDHD.
· Use eac3to to identify main movie m2ts file.
· Use tsMuxeR_1.8.18(b) to remux the file to a new m2ts, removing unwanted subtitles & audio.
· Use tsMuxeR_1.8.18 (b) to create BDMV & CERTIFICATE folders from the new m2ts file.
· Use BD-RBV02001 to “shrink” to either BD9 or BD5. Let it run overnight.
· Use ImgBurn to create .iso from the result and burn to Verbatim 8XDVD+R DL.

This method produces a BD9 or BD5 that plays without any problem on the Denon 2500BT.

Are you saying "movie only" doesn't work on your Denon 2500BT and the tsmuxer bluray output does. Or are you saying that they both work. Or are you saying that you haven't tested "movie only" with your Denon and you only tried "full disc" with the Sony BDP-S300.

Thanks :)

[jdobbs]

I can't imagine how the first steps have any effect on the last ones... :confused:

[Furiousflea]

I can't imagine how the first steps have any effect on the last ones... :confused:

That's my thinking and why I asked for some clarification. It sounds like he hasn't tried "movie only" and just a straight remux through tsmuxer. Wanted to be sure as it could be a potential bug in BD-Rebuilder.

[kilbowie54]

That's my thinking and why I asked for some clarification. It sounds like he hasn't tried "movie only" and just a straight remux through tsmuxer. Wanted to be sure as it could be a potential bug in BD-Rebuilder.

My first attempts to use BD-Rebuilder on its own wouldn't work at all on the Denon DVD2500BT (this is my main machine - the older Sony isn't used now). I tried several times to create a BD25 and a BD9 using just BD-Rebuilder and nothing would play on the Denon. It was only usuing the method I outlined in my post that I could get a BD9 to play on the Denon so I stuck with that!

[Furiousflea]

My first attempts to use BD-Rebuilder on its own wouldn't work at all on the Denon DVD2500BT (this is my main machine - the older Sony isn't used now). I tried several times to create a BD25 and a BD9 using just BD-Rebuilder and nothing would play on the Denon. It was only usuing the method I outlined in my post that I could get a BD9 to play on the Denon so I stuck with that!

Did you try movie only mode in BD-Rebuilder at BD9 size on your denon?