List of BD-Rebuilder Compatible Players (BD5\BD9 output)

[Furiousflea]

LG BD300
LG BH300 (may need to use strict AVCHD option OR delete CERTIFICATE/AUXDATA/BDJO/JAR/META directories)

it's really BH300

and you forgot to remove the unnecessary info attached to the phillips player

no problem

I dunno, that was posted by someone in this forum a page or two back. Are you sure it will play "movie only" backups like WallE\Ratatouille?

BDRB doesn't join m2ts....or does it...If it does then obviously it will go.....


Thanx for your time.

[turbojet]

It joins them in movie only mode (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1272045#post1272045) which is the section it is under.

[Furiousflea]

It joins them in movie only mode (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1272045#post1272045) which is the section it is under.

Cool cheers for clarifying.

[drmih]

I have just done Twilight to BD-9 and have the audio issue on a Sony 550. There is no pip from what I can see but what does seem to be in common with the titles I've had before (universal primarily) is that the main english language track is HD_MASTER.

[turbojet]

Seems like Samsung BD-P1500 and BD-P2500 can be put in full backup category accoding to this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144399) but the AUXDATA directory has to be deleted.

[yonexsp]

The Samsung BD-UP5000 does NOT work for anything

[Furiousflea]

Thanks peeps, updated :)

[deank]

The Samsung BD-UP5000 does NOT work for anything

Did you try to update to FW 1.4? (http://www.samsung.com/us/support/download/supportDown.do?group=&type=&subtype=&model_nm=BD-UP5000/XAA&language=&cate_type=all&dType=D&mType=FM&vType=&prd_ia_cd=&disp_nm=BD-UP5000&model_cd=&menu=download)

[yonexsp]

Did you try to update to FW 1.4? (http://www.samsung.com/us/support/download/supportDown.do?group=&type=&subtype=&model_nm=BD-UP5000/XAA&language=&cate_type=all&dType=D&mType=FM&vType=&prd_ia_cd=&disp_nm=BD-UP5000&model_cd=&menu=download)


It's my mates machine, I believe he did

[Furiousflea]

It's my mates machine, I believe he did

In that case it's coming off the list. Please verify first hand that it doesn't work for any writeable media. Thanks :)

[drmih]

I have just done Twilight to BD-9 and have the audio issue on a Sony 550. There is no pip from what I can see but what does seem to be in common with the titles I've had before (universal primarily) is that the main english language track is HD_MASTER.

For information, I have now re-done Twilight but leaving the audio untouched to bd-25. Everything is perfect so I'm leaning towards something to do with the audio.

[zem]

Oh ok there was another report awhile ago of a european first gen PS3 playing full backups with hdmv menu (empty bdjo directory) but still definitely worth a try of latest firmware in other regions.

edit: It would also be interesting to see if first gen european players play BDJ menus (bdjo directory is not empty)

Hey guys, sorry for not getting back sooner. Ok, there's no BDJO directory at all on this disc (It's not my rip, dunno if it was there on the original disc). I did another reencode of a movie with BDJO data which didn't work in the ps3. So it's probably not related to the firmware. I'm doing another full backup of another movie with empty BDJO and let you know the result...

[turbojet]

FuriousFlea: I gave you some wrong information on the Samsung 2500/2550. Apparently the 2500 region B player does play full backups but the 2550 region A player only plays movie only with strict avchd set.

Also I think it's safe to mention that first generation EU PS3's play full backups while every other PS3 doesn't.

[Furiousflea]

FuriousFlea: I gave you some wrong information on the Samsung 2500/2550. Apparently the 2500 region B player does play full backups but the 2550 region A player only plays movie only with strict avchd set.

Also I think it's safe to mention that first generation EU PS3's play full backups while every other PS3 doesn't.

Cheers, updated OP. :)

[GaPony]

FuriousFlea: I gave you some wrong information on the Samsung 2500/2550. Apparently the 2500 region B player does play full backups but the 2550 region A player only plays movie only with strict avchd set.

Also I think it's safe to mention that first generation EU PS3's play full backups while every other PS3 doesn't.

I would pretty much agree with this assessment. (So far as BD5/BD9 are concerned)

[zem]

Cheers, updated OP. :)

You guys are a bit fast... :) So far only one disc with no BDJO directory worked, and another with BDJO didn't. I have another empty BDJO disc reencoding right now. I'll let you know as soon as I have some result.

[ironleg1963]

I am very confused about blu ray players stand alone and computer. I have not bought a drive yet because Im not sure what to get. I am looking at getting a settop bx for the tv, one for the computer and one for a laptop. I want it to do the avchd, full movies, hi def read write, everything andbe compatable with almost all media. with the computers I plan on updating to windows 7 when it is final.
Any help is appriciated, I have been using the 123 ver of dvdrebuilder pro because I just have regular dvd drives for now until I can find out what to purchase that will work with anything thrown at it.

thanks!

ironleg1963

[drmih]

I am very confused about blu ray players stand alone and computer. I have not bought a drive yet because Im not sure what to get. I am looking at getting a settop bx for the tv, one for the computer and one for a laptop. I want it to do the avchd, full movies, hi def read write, everything andbe compatable with almost all media. with the computers I plan on updating to windows 7 when it is final.
Any help is appriciated, I have been using the 123 ver of dvdrebuilder pro because I just have regular dvd drives for now until I can find out what to purchase that will work with anything thrown at it.

thanks!

ironleg1963

Computer wise there isn't an issue (and this isn't about pc solutions) as I think that most drives with current firmware and in conjunction with a product like Anydvd will handle original discs, ripping and play nearly any variation of content put on disc.
The thread deals with which standalone blu ray players can handle blu-ray content put on to writeable media, whether it be bd-re, bd-25, dvd-9, or dvd-5. Very basically, Sony players are the best solution at the moment for compatibility.

[Bundy00]

Hi there,

I have a problem with this constellation:

I've re-encoded Hellboy2 (full) without any errors with latest Rebuilder version, lastest TsMuxeR version.
(I get around the problem with VC1 interlaced by using the INI para MIN_M2TS_SIZE=460).

When I try to play it with my Pana BD35 (Firmware 1.4) I get the Universal trailer and then the main menu.

If I choose the language (no matter if german or english) nothing happens and player just stops. (It really shows STOP in the panel menu).

Some days ago I did a full rebuild of Quantum of Solace.
Here I ran into the Pana 24p issue - plays fine with 24p disabled but only sound with 24p enabled. (During rebuild I had an older TsMuxeR in place).

But why is Hellboy2 just stopping in the main menu??

Any idea?

Thanks in advance...

[Bundy00]

Sorry - I accidently choosed the wrong thread... :o

I added this to the bug report.

[Furiousflea]

Tsmuxer 1.9.9 is NOT compatible with my Sony BDP-S550 :scared:

turbojet if you read this, just to confirm my earlier post about having problems with a newer version than 1.8.35.

Anyway, I've tried on 2 seperate discs (Ghost Town and The Illusionist). Both refuse to even boot on the S550 and have been fully verified as working\readable.

They are recognised by powerdvd jusr for reference.

maybe it's something to do with BDRB not passing along the correct commandline to select the new modes (bd\avchd) that have been introduced in recent versions.

[turbojet]

1.8.35 was the first version to change --bluray the switch BD-RB uses.
It's also why I suggest 1.8.34 for those that need to mux TrueHD but I remember someone writing 1.8.35 works but 1.8.34 doesn't which is very strange.

Was that movie only or full backup?

[Furiousflea]

1.8.35 was the first version to change --bluray the switch BD-RB uses.
It's also why I suggest 1.8.34 for those that need to mux TrueHD but I remember someone writing 1.8.35 works but 1.8.34 doesn't which is very strange.

Was that movie only or full backup?

Full backup mate to a BD25

Yes I was using 1.8.35 before but decided to upgrade after (i think it was you) mentioned about the backups not working on many SAPs. It worked with my S550 but I think that is one of the few along with the other Sony players that will play anything near enough...

[turbojet]

I can't imagine suggesting to use 1.8.35+ with BD-RB but I'm not sure 1.8.34 is safe either but looking at the changelog I'd assume it would be fine.

As far as I can tell full backup's only use m2ts and clpi files from tsmuxer but I could be wrong about this. The clpi files in both outputs of 1.9.x builds is identical but it varies a little from 1.8.4 - 1.8.34 builds. This might be a huge headache for jdobbs and it might mean using 1.8.30 - 1.8.34 for some time or writing his own muxer.

[Furiousflea]

I can't imagine suggesting to use 1.8.35+ with BD-RB but I'm not sure 1.8.34 is safe either but looking at the changelog I'd assume it would be fine.

As far as I can tell full backup's only use m2ts and clpi files from tsmuxer but I could be wrong about this. The clpi files in both outputs of 1.9.x builds is identical but it varies a little from 1.8.4 - 1.8.34 builds. This might be a huge headache for jdobbs and it might mean using 1.8.30 - 1.8.34 for some time or writing his own muxer.

lol no it wasn't you who recommended to upgrade, I shouldn't have used the word upgrade, more like "not use version 1.8.35" for above reasons. :)

Well, I'll be going back to that for now it looks. Shame since it really looked like 1.9.9 was the first fully non beta proper release with virtually all problems ironed out.

Thanks for posting your thoughts.

[deank]

In full-backup mode BD-RB uses the original index.bdmv so there is no difference if you use older or newer tsmuxer.

Also tsmuxer versions won't affect any BD-25 backups (with current BD-RB version).

[yonexsp]

In that case it's coming off the list. Please verify first hand that it doesn't work for any writeable media. Thanks :)

I doesn't, verified

[Furiousflea]

I doesn't, verified

Thanks, just wanted to be sure as we can be. :)

[Furiousflea]

In full-backup mode BD-RB uses the original index.bdmv so there is no difference if you use older or newer tsmuxer.

Also tsmuxer versions won't affect any BD-25 backups (with current BD-RB version).

Well, there's some weird stuff going on here...

I just did another backup, this time burnt to a BD-RE and it read fine (using tsmuxer 1.9.9). Burnt same files to a BD-R and it won't read it...

OK, you may say "cheap media" etc, and I'd say the same usually but the disc is 100% playable with no errors whatsoever in PowerDVD9. Also done full verify in image burn against the image with a perfect reading curve up to 6x at the end.

I will test another disc tomorrow, but I reckon that the way tsmuxer is working now by writing proper bluray structure is making everything choke...

Anyways, I know this all sounds doubtful and I'd dismiss posts like this as someone not knowing what their doing if I were you too...

Will post again tomorrow as I only just got out of bed for a fag n aint got nothing on so aint practical to be messing around encoding stuff :p

[GaPony]

You're saying that because txmuxer IS writing proper Blu-Ray structure, its creating a problem?

So when txmuxer isn't doing what's its supposed to do, everything works correctly? A bit counter-intuitive, I would think... :)

[turbojet]

In full-backup mode BD-RB uses the original index.bdmv so there is no difference if you use older or newer tsmuxer.

Also tsmuxer versions won't affect any BD-25 backups (with current BD-RB version).

I thought the same but BD-RB uses clpi files from TSMuxer and they changed a little bit from the known working one in 1.8.18.

Also the mpls files aren't a direct copy but I'm not sure how it changes those but they differ from TSMuxer 1.8.18 output.

[Furiousflea]

You're saying that because txmuxer IS writing proper Blu-Ray structure, its creating a problem?

So when txmuxer isn't doing what's its supposed to do, everything works correctly? A bit counter-intuitive, I would think... :)

Pretty much. I want to be certain so will do a couple more discs.

[deank]

I thought the same but BD-RB uses clpi files from TSMuxer and they changed a little bit from the known working one in 1.8.18.

Also the mpls files aren't a direct copy but I'm not sure how it changes those but they differ from TSMuxer 1.8.18 output.

I think BD-RB rewrites all clpi and mpls files - after all it is the most important thing and it's what BD-RB does to make full-backups (aside from the encoding).

Of course once jdobbs returns he'll shed more light.

[meatwad]

FuriousFlea: I gave you some wrong information on the Samsung 2500/2550. Apparently the 2500 region B player does play full backups but the 2550 region A player only plays movie only with strict avchd set.

Also I think it's safe to mention that first generation EU PS3's play full backups while every other PS3 doesn't.

turbojet, did you have to delete the auxfolder on the 2500 for full disc playback? I'm only asking because I've tested a few BD25 full disc backups on a friend's 2550 region A and they played fine without deleting it. If your full disc backups are BD9's then just ignore my post. I haven't tested any full disc backups on BD9 or 5. He wasn't sure about his firmware revision. BD-RE media was used. No TrueHD or DTS tracks. If they had them they were removed or converted.

Also, he tested a full disc backup with DTS on it burned with Ritek 2X BD-R media (I'm skeptical about the media even though it was verified) and it wouldn't play. The disc plays fine on my PC with the latest PowerDVD. I'm going to put the backup on a BD-RE to try to rule out if wouldn't play due to the media used. I used the stock version of BD-RB and I've read that the TSmuxer version included has issues with TrueHD and DTS so that too is in question.

[turbojet]

I didn't test it but the people that did were referring to deleting AUXDATA on BD5/9 and it's not part of AVCHD standard which is all the player claims to support on DVD.

It makes sense that BDR can play with it as retail BD's have that folder too and it's requred for bluray. I wouldn't be surprised if removing the directory would break playback on a BDR.

[zem]

You guys are a bit fast... :) So far only one disc with no BDJO directory worked, and another with BDJO didn't. I have another empty BDJO disc reencoding right now. I'll let you know as soon as I have some result.

guys, remove the ps3 from the full backup category. I did 2 other backups which had empty BDJO directories and they show up as data disc. So I don't know what happened with this copy of 13 ghosts I got. I need to investigate :P. 13 ghosts shows up as AVCHD and has menus and extras. I don't get it...

[turbojet]

guys, remove the ps3 from the full backup category. I did 2 other backups which had empty BDJO directories and they show up as data disc. So I don't know what happened with this copy of 13 ghosts I got. I need to investigate :P. 13 ghosts shows up as AVCHD and has menus and extras. I don't get it...

Hmm can you see if AVC-HD Patcher (http://v2pwpg.blu.livefilestore.com/y1pjbPR46gFDXFpZxe0_J9m4T6YN3dqy0Xq1ICRdjKwlvZgqWJiVZA5GjdO3Ggz9Pjajye6G0sCz_GqjDUsXtj7Qw/AVCHD-Patcher_1.06.rar?download) or goBD (http://212.36.7.36/sub/new/goBD-tool.exe) changes anything?

[deank]

Full-movie will work on BD-R disc not on DVD. Probably with goBD it will work, but it proved that not all PS3s will work.

[Furiousflea]

guys, remove the ps3 from the full backup category. I did 2 other backups which had empty BDJO directories and they show up as data disc. So I don't know what happened with this copy of 13 ghosts I got. I need to investigate :P. 13 ghosts shows up as AVCHD and has menus and extras. I don't get it...

Yeah will do...I suspected this might be the case.

[jdobbs]

I've been out for awhile and I'm not familiar with goBD... what does it do?

[GaPony]

I've been out for awhile and I'm not familiar with goBD... what does it do?

Its the little program Deank was working on to make full movie copies to BD5/BD9 work on the PS3... but it only seems to work for non-US versions of the PS3... I'm sure you commented on this before when he was first releasing it. :)

[shearer69]

Seems like Samsung BD-P1500 and BD-P2500 can be put in full backup category accoding to this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144399) but the AUXDATA directory has to be deleted.

If it has previous firmare (dont upgrade to 2.3) you dont need delete anything I've backed 30+ bdr full backup to bd9 with no playback problems

[Furiousflea]

Enough is enough...

The PS3 obiously doesn't support BD5\BD9 (certainly not with latest firmware on BDJ discs), even then it's only the first EU versions right?

There hasn't been one report to my knowledge of any definate "THIS DOES WORK" with no doubts.

Removing until someone credible can catergorically state what does\does not work. Then we can never talk about it again :cool:

,,,well sorry you know what I mean though. No point constantly reporting contradictory information.

We need to know what does work and what doesn't from someone who has tried everything, what fw\region version etc.

[zem]

just for info, AVCHD patcher did the trick. My BD9 now work with menu and extras on the PS3. Thanks for the tip turbojet.

[DK]

Because the Samsung BD-P1600 I bought 3 weeks ago does not play any AVCHD/MINI BD material burned to Verbatim DVD+R DL (with almost any kind of structure this thread suggests), I contacted Samsung support by phone and email.

I was told the player should play AVCHD according to the specs (which I knew beforehand and because of which this new modell was chosen) and Samsung advised me to return the player.

Today I went to the store where I bought it w/OUT the player but with three different DVD+R DL with Movie-only AVCHD content and tested another Samsung BD-P1600:
again it completely failed!


I then tested LG 370, Samsung 4610 xeg + Pansonic BD 60

- LG 370 did play one (I did not test more than this one DVD) tested media absolutely fine.
The disc tested with the LG contained these subfolders:
-BDMV
--CLIPINF
--PLAYLIST
--BACKUP
--STREAM

Same disc also played fine with:
- Samsung BD-P4610 XEG
- Panasonic BD 60

Both player also played another disc with this structure:
- BDMV
--CLIPINF
--BACKUP
--BDJO
--JAR
--META
--PLAYLIST
--STREAM
- Certificate

- Sony 350 played this structure fine (did not test any other):
-BDMV
--CLIPINF
--PLAYLIST
--BACKUP
--STREAM


All titles are movie only 9gb burned with Imgburn on Verbatim DVD+R DL

[jdobbs]

Its the little program Deank was working on to make full movie copies to BD5/BD9 work on the PS3... but it only seems to work for non-US versions of the PS3... I'm sure you commented on this before when he was first releasing it. :)Ohh... yeah I'm familiar with DeanK's good work on compatibility... guess I forgot the name. When I get back to serious work on BD-RB (only had a couple of free days to fix a couple of bugs last weekend) I'll try to work with him to integrate it.

[prenz]

@DK: What Booktype has your BD9 set? Samsung BD-P 1600 won't play any AVCHD/BD-content off a DVD booktyped as 'DVD-ROM'. Change the Booktype to 'DVD+R' or 'DVD+RW' and the disc will play fine (even with VC1 and EAC3!) as long as you use strict AVCHD structure. Haven't tested this with BD9 though, only BD5.

[DK]

hello prenz,

i actually have set the default booktype to -rom and most if not all of my tests were done with this booktype.

i would have returend the player today had you not posted this piece of information.

will test this after work and get back to you here.

maybe it will save me quite some money but i am more than p%&§ed off that the Samsung support which i have contacted THREE times is not able to provide this kind of information.

all those sucker told me was the 1600 DOES play avchd when no single disc i created so far did not play on two different 1600 models.

incredible if booktype settings could actually change this.

thanx a ton for this advice! :thanks:

[deank]

Don't be so quick to blame samsung for what they've told you because you need to test real AVCHD first.

Download this sample, burn it to DVD and test. (http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AVSEO5G0)

You may want to leave only BDMV folder and remove AUXDATA/BDJO/JAR/META.

[DK]

Of course you're right not to jump to conclusions too fast but it is annoying that the discs I have done so far run fine on Samsung 1500, 2500 and 4610.

So I still consider this a case of inpropriate firmware management or quality control.

At least the "support" should be able to provide customers with decent information as to what runs fine according to their testing procedure.

And by the way I have already removed those subfolders you name and i did burn many many discs with different structure and none of them run on the bd-1600 so far.

But i will download the file you link and test the booktype later today.


Thanx everyone for your comments and suggestions!