TsRemux v0.21.2: Transport Stream De/Re-muxer [Archive] - Page 5

colinhunt

9th June 2007, 18:21

Did you try to play it on your Panasonic player? If you can let me know what happens. :thanks: Also if anybody can try PS3 and tell me what happens I would be grateful too. :)
I'll do a test burn and will let you know how the players reacted.

kabanero

9th June 2007, 21:01

kabanero, that error might not be caused by remuxing. PS3 seems to be incredibly picky about how the disc was burned.
Yes, I know that PS3 is very picky, but it was the same BD-RE disk burned the same way both times with Nero using UDF 2.5.
After remuxing with version 11 disk played on PS3, but without video and audio. After remuxing with version 12 I got that error.

Pelican9

9th June 2007, 21:03

You don't need any titles in the loop if you have first playback title set. Notice that the first playback title is never in the title loop. I put the main feature in the first playback and that's why it starts automatically. :)

I could put the same title in both places, but that could confuse some players and could be "less compatible" than having no titles in the loop, which does follow the spec.
OK. That's good if it works.
I've changed BDedit to work with it.

colinhunt

9th June 2007, 22:23

Yes, I know that PS3 is very picky, but it was the same BD-RE disk burned the same way both times with Nero using UDF 2.5.
After remuxing with version 11 disk played on PS3, but without video and audio. After remuxing with version 12 I got that error.
The funny thing is that I've burned the exact same data on two discs, using the same version of Nero and same settings... and one of the discs played on PS3 and the other one didn't.

colinhunt

9th June 2007, 22:35

OK. Managed to finally burn a BDMV created with version 12. Disc plays fine in PS3, I can see a picture but there's no sound. Exactly the same results as with the previous version; PS3 reports nothing about audio etc.

Panny BD10 again recognizes the disc as BD and tries to play it. After a couple of seconds of black screen player display reads STOP and playback stops.

I seem to remember that PC-burned BD-REs used to work on the Panny, but that was before I updated its firmware to v2.0. Maybe that disabled non-AACS BD-RE support?

colinhunt

9th June 2007, 22:39

FYI, my burn process is as follows:

1) remux with TsRemux to "Blu-ray"
2) select Blu-ray Disc (UDF) compilation type in Nero 7 Premium (v7.9.6.0), switch file system manually to UDF 2.50 and drop the BDMV directory into compilation
3) select Image Recorder as destination and write a .NRG disc image on HDD
4) use the latest ImgBurn to burn the image on BD-RE disc

Oddly enough one of my PCs burns discs at 1x speed only. Another PC burns happily at 2x - same burner, same media. Weird stuff.

colinhunt

9th June 2007, 22:42

Update on the Panny BD10 issue. Found an older BD-RE which worked on the Panny (luckily I had written that on the label as a reminder) and placed it in the player. Works fine!

So, TsRemuxed BDMVs not working on the Panny is not Panny's fault.

kabanero

10th June 2007, 02:01

OK. Managed to finally burn a BDMV created with version 12. Disc plays fine in PS3, I can see a picture but there's no sound. Exactly the same results as with the previous version; PS3 reports nothing about audio etc.

YEAAAAAAAH!!! I got the video too, but no sound.
I also have chapters every 5 minutes and can skip between chapters.

So, TsRemuxed BDMVs not working on PS3 is not PS3's fault. Probably Nero producing inconsistent results with burning Blu-ray disks.

My burn process is as follows:

remux with TsRemux to "Blu-ray" option.
select Blu-ray Disc (UDF) compilation type in Nero 7 (v7.7.5.1), switch file system manually to UDF 2.50 and drop the BDMV and CERTIFICATE directories into compilation.
burn directly to BD-RE disk.

colinhunt

10th June 2007, 09:35

I don't burn the CERTIFICATE directory. As far as I know it's not necessary.

dmz01

10th June 2007, 17:38

I don't burn the CERTIFICATE directory. As far as I know it's not necessary.

CERTIFICATE and CERTIFICATE\BACKUP are necessary even if they're empty. I wouldn't have created them otherwise. :D

colinhunt

10th June 2007, 18:07

CERTIFICATE and CERTIFICATE\BACKUP are necessary even if they're empty. I wouldn't have created them otherwise. :D
Hmm... I've got plenty of BD-RE backups that don't have it, and they all work perfectly. Why is it necessary?

dmz01

10th June 2007, 18:17

Hmm... I've got plenty of BD-RE backups that don't have it, and they all work perfectly. Why is it necessary?

BDROM specifications require it. It is part of the bare minimum set for a compliant disk. Non-compliant structure disks will probably work on a lot of players, but you can't guarantee them to work on all.

colinhunt

10th June 2007, 18:35

BDROM specifications require it. It is part of the bare minimum set for a compliant disk. Non-compliant structure disks will probably work on a lot of players, but you can't guarantee them to work on all.
Ah, thank you.

Keeping this in mind, I dug out that BD-RE which works in the Panny BD10 v2.0. I burned it quite some time ago,way before the Panny 2.0 firmware was released.

I thought the missing CERTIFICATE could be the reason why my TsRemuxed test burns aren't working in the Panny... but that's not the cause. The older BD-RE that works in the Panny doesn't have CERTIFICATE either; only BDMV.

Hey, maybe I should rip that discs' BDMV directory for you to check?

colinhunt

10th June 2007, 18:46

Here's the BDMV (sans STREAM, naturally) from the BD-RE which works in the Panasonic:
http://www.box.net/shared/jiupl9nurt

Icemaan

10th June 2007, 21:00

Here's the BDMV (sans STREAM, naturally) from the BD-RE which works in the Panasonic:
http://www.box.net/shared/jiupl9nurt

I want test TsRemux but i everytime get the Problem

Not enough System Resources to Start.Any Idea whats goes Wrong

Icemaan

colinhunt

10th June 2007, 21:26

I want test TsRemux but i everytime get the Problem Not enough System Resources to Start.Any Idea whats goes Wrong
I think post #197 in this thread answers your question. Come on, it's on the previous page, man.

Icemaan

10th June 2007, 21:45

I think post #197 in this thread answers your question. Come on, it's on the previous page, man.

Oh man i am so stupid i read and read but not found thanks a lot for your Tip

icemaan

BBugsBunny

10th June 2007, 23:00

dmz01:
Version 0.0.12 works very well for me! Some problematic transport streams I recorded with media portal tv server 3, now are fully playable with MPC+Haali+CoreAVC, after I passed (and trimmed beginning/end) it through TSRemux.
I do use .ts as output format.

Thanks a lot!

karollt

11th June 2007, 10:34

colinhunt

11th June 2007, 10:40

At last I can reply :)
Hi all. I have a problem, I need, to convert DVD to mpeg, but I need to leav all sound traks, and titles, how I can do it? I tried with TSRemux, but VLC doent play anithing ... :(
TsRemux is most likely the wrong tool for that job, sorry. Also, I don't think MPEG supports titles and multiple sound tracks like DVD does.

K40

11th June 2007, 10:55

Can a Evob with VC1 and DDplus be remuxed in a m2ts file ?
Would a PS3 play this m2ts file from a BDRE ?

colinhunt

11th June 2007, 11:09

Can a Evob with VC1 and DDplus be remuxed in a m2ts file ?
Would a PS3 play this m2ts file from a BDRE ?
I don't see why not. VC1 is a mandatory codec for Blu-ray and while DDplus is Optional, I'm quite certain PS3 supports it. It's just a question of writing a demuxer for EVOB and making sure the streams are properly "tagged" during remuxing. That's a gross simplification, naturally. I'm not a programmer, but I'm sure the actual development of this is much harder than it sounds.

I'd love to be able to remux EVOBs for PS3 viewing, too :)

karollt

11th June 2007, 11:34

so, maybe you know right tool for me?

karollt

11th June 2007, 11:37

colinhunt

11th June 2007, 11:53

I need in one file to have some soundtracks, sometitles, and video ofcourse:), to translate like in tv, the clients via VLC could sweach languages and so on, like DVD...I dont know, how to solve my problem...:(
What if you simply decrypt the DVD contents (IFO, VOB etc.) into a directory, and play them with VLC? Just select "Open File" in VLC and point it to the directory where you have the DVD data. Works fine for me.

But honestly, since you wish to use VLC, I suggest you head on over to a VLC-related thread, if you have further questions. This thread is for TsRemux.

karollt

11th June 2007, 12:17

I need, to get one file...I tought, that it myght be .ts, the video will watch clients, not me, so everithing should be very simple for them.
Thanks for ansers...

trilko

11th June 2007, 14:03

What if you simply decrypt the DVD contents (IFO, VOB etc.) into a directory, and play them with VLC? Just select "Open File" in VLC and point it to the directory where you have the DVD data. Works fine for me.

I already tried that, but I lose the subtitles that way. It seems that VLC cannot deal with subtitles... Do you know for any solution?

colinhunt

11th June 2007, 14:36

I already tried that, but I lose the subtitles that way. It seems that VLC cannot deal with subtitles... Do you know for any solution?
Again, this is not a correct thread for this. Take it to a VLC-related thread, k?

jagaskywalker

11th June 2007, 14:37

...

My burn process is as follows:

remux with TsRemux to "Blu-ray" option.
select Blu-ray Disc (UDF) compilation type in Nero 7 (v7.7.5.1), switch file system manually to UDF 2.50 and drop the BDMV and CERTIFICATE directories into compilation.
burn directly to BD-RE disk.

Has anybody tried burning that into a DVD and playing it on a PS3 ?

What is the level of compatibility wrt different video/audio codecs ? (AVCHD is just AVC/H264 + AC3, but it would be interesting to know if MPEG2 + AC3 is also playable....o VC1...)

Thanks

J

karollt

11th June 2007, 14:53

ok, I need, that Motorola VIP1900 series would play this file...

dmz01

11th June 2007, 14:54

Can a Evob with VC1 and DDplus be remuxed in a m2ts file ?
Would a PS3 play this m2ts file from a BDRE ?

I don't see why not. VC1 is a mandatory codec for Blu-ray and while DDplus is Optional, I'm quite certain PS3 supports it. It's just a question of writing a demuxer for EVOB and making sure the streams are properly "tagged" during remuxing. That's a gross simplification, naturally. I'm not a programmer, but I'm sure the actual development of this is much harder than it sounds.

I'd love to be able to remux EVOBs for PS3 viewing, too :)

Did you try TsRemux? What was the result?

colinhunt

11th June 2007, 15:03

Did you try TsRemux? What was the result?
No, I didn't, not yet. I don't have any EVOBs ready on HDD, need to rip a disc first.

dmz01

11th June 2007, 15:10

As per title of this thread TsRemux does support EVOB/VOB/MPG streams as input :D

Let me know what you find. :thanks:

colinhunt

11th June 2007, 15:19

As per title of this thread TsRemux does support EVOB/VOB/MPG streams as input :D
Heh, yeah, I noticed that about 5 seconds after I replied to the EVOB question :)

Anyways, I did a really quick rip of Paramount logo animation from a HD DVD. It's got VC-1 for video and DDPlus for audio.

If I drop the resulting .m2ts from STREAM directly into PDVD... PDVD goes insane and needs to be put down.

BUT if I use the "Open movie file on HDD" option, the clip plays! PDVD reports video as VC-1 and bitrate looks realistic. Audio is reported as DDPlus, but there's no mention of channels or bitrate, and there's no audio playing. (Originally the clip has DDPlus 5.1 at 1.5mbit/s.)

It's pretty much the same audio bug that plagued my earlier AVC/DD remux attempts.

dmz01

11th June 2007, 15:23

Yep, still working on the audio bug. Would it be possible for you to try a VOB from a regular DVD as well? I believe in regular DVD/VOB case the audio should be correct.

:thanks:

colinhunt

11th June 2007, 15:57

Yep, still working on the audio bug. Would it be possible for you to try a VOB from a regular DVD as well? I believe in regular DVD/VOB case the audio should be correct.
Did you mean remuxing a DVD VOB into "Blu-ray"?

Well, I did that. Same audio bug again. PDVD displays the correct audio codec (the disc had PCM stereo and 5.1 DTS), but only the codec name, no # of channels or bitrate.

I'll try a disc with Dolby Digital next.

colinhunt

11th June 2007, 16:10

That's a no go with DD also.

I then tried dropping the m2ts from STREAM into PDVD. The file with DD audio worked, PCM and DTS showed picture but there's no audio.

Nero Showtime played DD and DTS files perfectly, but PCM played without sound.

Rectal Prolapse

11th June 2007, 17:13

DD+ and TrueHD tracks from HD-DVDs are not compliant with the Blu-ray spec - the file format is different. At least, that's what I heard from people trying to author BD-REs from HD-DVD video and audio streams.

So just be careful if you want to use this tool to convert formats. :)

colinhunt

11th June 2007, 19:00

DD+ and TrueHD tracks from HD-DVDs are not compliant with the Blu-ray spec - the file format is different. At least, that's what I heard from people trying to author BD-REs from HD-DVD video and audio streams.
Ah, indeed. DDplus uses different frame sizes. TrueHD has different bitrates, so it also differs in some way.

dmz01

12th June 2007, 03:26

New version: lucky number 0.0.13
-fixed sound issues in TS->Blu-Ray
-fixed DD/DTS (E)VOB->TS/M2TS/Blu-Ray
-DD+ EVOB->TS/M2TS/Blu-Ray may or might not work depending on the stream.
-MLP/LPCM EVOB->TS/M2TS/Blu-Ray will not yet work.
-Blu-Ray output is now beta.

kabanero

12th June 2007, 04:55

dmz01,

I just tried 0.0.13 and I still didn't get the sound. Video plays great.

dmz01

12th June 2007, 05:41

dmz01,

I just tried 0.0.13 and I still didn't get the sound. Video plays great.

Need a sample. :)
:thanks:

colinhunt

12th June 2007, 09:37

0.0.13 mirrored here:
http://www.box.net/shared/gvzemysl6o

kabanero

12th June 2007, 11:33

Need a sample. :)
:thanks:

Do you need the whole thing including M2TS file, or just everything except that?
The whole thing is 1GB, without that it is just 7KB.

colinhunt

12th June 2007, 11:37

kabanero

12th June 2007, 11:48

First test with 0.0.13.

Source:
HDTV Broadcast Transport Stream
1080i MPEG-2
Dolby Digital 2.0 448kbps

Remuxed into "Blu-ray".

Results:
.m2ts from STREAM dropped into Nero Showtime - OK!
.m2ts from STREAM dropped into PDVD 7.3 Ultra - OK!
BDMV opened with PDVD's "Open movie file on HDD" - Image OK, no audio. Exactly as before; only audio codec name is shown in PDVD OSD.

I think it's a valid testing process to first try the data out with PDVD, and to burn a BD-RE only when PDVD plays the data OK. What do you reckon?

My test with 0.0.13.

Source:
HDTV Broadcast Transport Stream from cable co.
1920x1080i MPEG-2
Dolby Digital 5.1 384kbps

Remuxed into "Blu-ray".
.m2ts file from STREAM folder play great in MPC and ShowTime.
Don't have PDVD. And it only takes couple minutes to burn 1GB to BD-RE..

colinhunt

12th June 2007, 11:51

Second test with 0.0.13.

Source:
HDTV Broadcast Transport Stream
1080i MPEG-2
Dolby Digital 5.1 384kbps

Remuxed into "Blu-ray".

Results:
exactly the same as from first test.

colinhunt

12th June 2007, 11:56

And it only takes couple minutes to burn 1GB to BD-RE..
Certainly, but my point is that PDVD is *supposed* to be Blu-ray compatible. It means that if the data won't play properly in PDVD, there's very little point in burning a BD-RE. Iow, PDVD can be used to test compliancy.

dmz01

12th June 2007, 13:42

Do you need the whole thing including M2TS file, or just everything except that?
The whole thing is 1GB, without that it is just 7KB.

I need a sample of the source (pre-remux). By sample I mean around 100MB or so of the file.