TsRemux v0.21.2: Transport Stream De/Re-muxer

[n0mag!c]

I have a Panny BD30K that will play all my discs authored with ULead, CyberLink, and Roxio, but the files are transcoded and lose quite a bit of quality. I tried writing the Blu Ray structure from tsReMuxer, but it won't play. Does anyone know how to get tsReMuxer BD structure to play in a set-top?

are sure that you burn bluray structure from tsremux as UDF2.50?
P.S. i'd like to buy this BD30 player, so can you please answer me, do it have "variable zoom" function as panasonic's dvd-players?

[Atak_Snajpera]

P.S. i'd like to buy this BD30 player, so can you please answer me, do it have "variable zoom" function as panasonic's dvd-players?

Instead of some crapy bluray player buy PS3. 399euro and you have very good console as well :)

[Bigmango]

Instead of some crapy bluray player buy PS3. 399euro and you have very good console as well :)

Yep I second that, its one of the best if not the best blu-ray player, the only future proof player with no limit on firmware updates it will support the BD 2.0 specs when they come out. It's also the best dvd upscaller and a nice media center :)

[Thunderbolt8]

does someone know exactly whats the current status on seamless branching movies with audio delay regarding .mkv remuxing (not with tsremux .mkv funtions, but mkvmerge etc.)? when you demux video & audio with xport from the .m2ts file, which was created by joining all the single files with copy /b, there will be a bit too much audio e.g. on average ~2.5ms for LPCM tracks or ~16ms for eac3 tracks for each joined .m2ts file (which can add up depending on their number). does someone know whether this would be the same when the with copy /b joined file is processed with tsremux 1st?

[Rectal Prolapse]

Thunderbolt8, I asked drmpeg (in PM) about the seamless branching issue. I hope he gets back to me about it one day.

My question is: Is the additional audio packet at the end of each m2ts segment repeated in the next audio segment? If so, is there a way to detect this additional audio packet and delete it, or does the audio need to be re-encoded?

[hkazemi]

Having been inspired by Pelican9's and DrMpeg's work, I decided to write a transport stream re-muxer similar in functionality to EvoDemux. Some of the features currently implemented:

Ability to demux elementary streams as well as subtitle streams compatible with SUPreader (right click the selected stream with the mouse)

Current Version 0.20

Hi dmz01,

First, thanks for working on this tool! Here are a few questions/notes/observations/suggestions:

1.) Does TsRemux include or get periodically updated to include all of the demuxing fixes that are added to xport.exe?
(According to http://www.w6rz.net/ , xport was "Updated 11/25/2007 - current version is 1.00" ).

2.) Is TsRemux at least as robust at demuxing .ts as xport?
(This is important for handling potentially broken broadcast ATSC streams, and I'd like to use whichever tool is a better ATSC stream demuxer in my scripts.)

3.) Can TsRemux functionally replace xport (i.e. does TsRemux have all of xport's features) (assuming a command line version of TsRemux is created)?

4.) How about TsRemux vs Evodemux ... is there anything Evodemux can do that TsRemux cannot?

5.) Have you considered adding GaveUp's AC3 bitrate header fixing code (from AC3 Cutter) as an AC3 processing option? This changing of the bitrate headers is important for maintaining sync when transcoding broadcast ATSC streams that switch between multiple different AC3 bitrates all in the same program. A common example is 384 kbps 5.1 AC3 for the main program and 192 kbps 2.0 stereo AC3 for the commercials. The source code for the last version (AC3 Cutter 0.3) is available in the zip file package:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=92325&page=2
http://www.64k.it/andres/data/a/AC3_Cutter_v0.3.zip

6.) Any thoughts about a command line version? This has been requested several times:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1091937&highlight=command+line#post1091937
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1077931&highlight=command+line#post1077931
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1070483&highlight=command+line#post1070483
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1012089&highlight=command+line#post1012089
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1008821&highlight=command+line#post1008821
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1001708&highlight=command+line#post1001708

If anyone is thinking of creating a command line wrapper for TsRemux, let me suggest the GPL open source tool AutoHotKey from http://www.autohotkey.com/. For Linux users, it works fine under WINE per http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=8043.

[n0mag!c]

Instead of some crapy bluray player buy PS3. 399euro and you have very good console as well :)

i've already bought PS3. :) and I was disappointed that it didn't upscale DVD's to 1080i/p, as my good old dvd-player does. so I'm still looking for UNcrapy bluray player to replace dvd-player. :)

[Bigmango]

i've already bought PS3. :) and I was disappointed that it didn't upscale DVD's to 1080i/p, as my good old dvd-player does. so I'm still looking for UNcrapy bluray player to replace dvd-player. :)

My PS3 upscalles DVDs perfectly to 1080p on my TV, and the same goes for all the people I know who have 1080p TVs.

Furthermore, the PS3 has been reported all over the web to be the best DVD upscaller; it outputs a better upscalling quality than other upscalling DVD players. Due to its cell processor it has more power for picture quality processing.

But of course for DVD upscalling to actually take place you need to enable 2 things in the PS3 settings:

- DVD upscalling (under DVD options)
- and 1080p (under supported screen sizes)

My guess is that you haven't enabled "DVD upscalling" :rolleyes:

[dmz01]

Answers: :)

Hi dmz01,

First, thanks for working on this tool! Here are a few questions/notes/observations/suggestions:

1.) Does TsRemux include or get periodically updated to include all of the demuxing fixes that are added to xport.exe?
(According to http://www.w6rz.net/ , xport was "Updated 11/25/2007 - current version is 1.00" ).


It doesn't since it was written from scratch and not from that code base.


2.) Is TsRemux at least as robust at demuxing .ts as xport?
(This is important for handling potentially broken broadcast ATSC streams, and I'd like to use whichever tool is a better ATSC stream demuxer in my scripts.)


It can tolerate some issues. I believe xport is better.


3.) Can TsRemux functionally replace xport (i.e. does TsRemux have all of xport's features) (assuming a command line version of TsRemux is created)?


I don't think so. Ron (DrMpeg, Dr1394 etc.) has a lot more experience in this area, and I'm but a newbie, so his product will be more stable - as the versions indicate. :)


4.) How about TsRemux vs Evodemux ... is there anything Evodemux can do that TsRemux cannot?


Yes - remux MPEG2 program streams (EVO, VOB, etc.)


5.) Have you considered adding GaveUp's AC3 bitrate header fixing code (from AC3 Cutter) as an AC3 processing option? This changing of the bitrate headers is important for maintaining sync when transcoding broadcast ATSC streams that switch between multiple different AC3 bitrates all in the same program. A common example is 384 kbps 5.1 AC3 for the main program and 192 kbps 2.0 stereo AC3 for the commercials. The source code for the last version (AC3 Cutter 0.3) is available in the zip file package:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=92325&page=2
http://www.64k.it/andres/data/a/AC3_Cutter_v0.3.zip


I could if there is a demand, or someone else can add that too.


6.) Any thoughts about a command line version? This has been requested several times:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1091937&highlight=command+line#post1091937
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1077931&highlight=command+line#post1077931
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1070483&highlight=command+line#post1070483
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1012089&highlight=command+line#post1012089
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1008821&highlight=command+line#post1008821
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1001708&highlight=command+line#post1001708

If anyone is thinking of creating a command line wrapper for TsRemux, let me suggest the GPL open source tool AutoHotKey from http://www.autohotkey.com/. For Linux users, it works fine under WINE per http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=8043.

It's on a to do list, are you volunteering? :D

[jamos]

i've already bought PS3. :) and I was disappointed that it didn't upscale DVD's to 1080i/p, as my good old dvd-player does. so I'm still looking for UNcrapy bluray player to replace dvd-player. :)

my ps3 upscales my dvds to 1080 do you have the 60 gig version?

[jamos]

i've already bought PS3. :) and I was disappointed that it didn't upscale DVD's to 1080i/p, as my good old dvd-player does. so I'm still looking for UNcrapy bluray player to replace dvd-player. :)

best bd player out there currently is the SONY BDP-S500, I have it. It supports dts-hd and true hd as well as AVCHD. it upscales dvds also.

[jamos]

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But of course for DVD upscalling to actually take place you need to enable 2 things in the PS3 settings:

- DVD upscalling (under DVD options)
- and 1080p (under supported screen sizes)

My guess is that you haven't enabled "DVD upscalling" :rolleyes:

it upscales to 720p and 1080i as well too.

[Atak_Snajpera]

It's on a to do list, are you volunteering?
I have a better idea. Command line app only for BluRay structure.
e.g.
BlurayStructure.exe "video.m2ts" "c:\bluray"

That's all we need :)

[hkazemi]

Answers: :)

It doesn't since it was written from scratch and not from that code base.

That's what I wasn't clear on...if TsRemux was a code derivative of xport and/or Evodemux, or instead a derivative just in spirit and ability. You've clarified it as the second (which is fine).

I'm hoping that someone will be able to combine the best of all these tools into an uber .ts handling tool. Presently, corrupt stream handling capabilities are being incrementally added to various tools, whereas a fix-them-all stream handling tool would be wonderful. (If wizziwig/mwilczyn changes his mind on releasing the source code to mpeg2repair, that would probably become a important part of the combined code.)


Re: xport vs tsremux handling of damaged .ts streams
It can tolerate some issues. I believe xport is better.

Re: AC3 bitrate header fixing
I could if there is a demand, or someone else can add that too.

Re: command line version
It's on a to do list, are you volunteering? :D

AutoHotKey is the tool I would use to create a command line wrapper for any app. Since you said xport is probably a more robust demuxer (and I'm looking for the most robust tools for broadcast ATSC content), I don't think I need to create a wrapper at this point. In fact I feel a wrapper is not the right way to do it anyway, since the TsRemux source code is available from you...real command line access is the way to go. It's good to know that this is on a to do list. :)

Have you given any thought to what license, if any, that you're releasing your tools under? Should they be considered to be public domain, GPL, Creative Commons (some version), BSD, etc? I didn't see anything about its license status posted anywhere (or in the source code). Some coders sensitive to this issue may be concerned about re-using your code without knowing the license type.

If you haven't given it much thought, my suggestion is to pick a GPL or GPL-compatible license, like many other open source tools have done. This page has a list of compatible and incompatible licenses: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html One of my reasons for suggesting a GPL or GPL-compatible license is to make it a possibility to use the code in other GPL video projects that handle .ts streams, including MythTV with a digital tuner.

Thanks for all your contributions!

[n0mag!c]

But of course for DVD upscalling to actually take place you need to enable 2 things in the PS3 settings:
- DVD upscalling (under DVD options)
- and 1080p (under supported screen sizes)
My guess is that you haven't enabled "DVD upscalling" :rolleyes:
when I bought PS3 week ago, I went through ALL menu settings. Yesterday read you message, thought what a lamer I am, and walk through all menu items again but didn't find such a menu item "DVD upscaling". :eek:
I have 60Gb european PS3 v1.52 and 1080i tv connected via hdmi. please help me find this magic menu item! :)
Jamos says that PS3 can upscale to 720p and 1080i too.

[zeroprobe]

when I bought PS3 week ago, I went through ALL menu settings. Yesterday read you message, thought what a lamer I am, and walk through all menu items again but didn't find such a menu item "DVD upscaling". :eek:
I have 60Gb european PS3 v1.52 and 1080i tv connected via hdmi. please help me find this magic menu item! :)
Jamos says that PS3 can upscale to 720p and 1080i too.

Upgrade your firmware were on 2.1 now.

[Bigmango]

please help me find this magic menu item! :)


It's in the settings menu, under Blu-ray/DVD settings.

But as zeroprobe says, your old firware probably doesn't have this option, you need to update it. You are missing several features that are available in the newer firmware (divx playback and more).

[n0mag!c]

Upgrade your firmware were on 2.1 now.
yes! that was it! thanks a lot! a lot features were added in 2.10 firmware! including 'DVD-upscale'! continuing to test new version 'tsremux' on PS3...

[Thunderbolt8]

Thunderbolt8, I asked drmpeg (in PM) about the seamless branching issue. I hope he gets back to me about it one day.

My question is: Is the additional audio packet at the end of each m2ts segment repeated in the next audio segment? If so, is there a way to detect this additional audio packet and delete it, or does the audio need to be re-encoded?
im not sure whether its repeated, at least it would be so small you wont notice it when watching. im not that much familiar with the technical side of this :S I only know there is too much audio and therefore the video needs to be slowed down accordingly.

[Rectal Prolapse]

Depends on the audio format - if it is AC3, you will be off by an AC3 frame - 32 milliseconds, per segment! That is a lot! :O

For LPCM it is almost negligible - which explains why I didn't have any issues with audio sync when playing Ratatouille as I was using the LPCM track. :)

[WarlordBB]

Pardom me for being "the noob" - I just used TSremux for the first time. I processed an R5000 recording off my Dish STB of a movie on StarzHD. The orginal file was 18GB (2 hours and change).

I used TSremux with all default options and just trimmed the beginning and ending few minutes.

The resulting file plays exactly as the original (minus the trimmed sections) - same PQ and audio, however, the file size is 3.8GB.

I haven't watched the entire thing from beginning to end yet but this is not was I was expecting.

I thought TSremux was just a way to "fix" some issues, easily trim beg/end, and in some cases (like moving to a Blu-ray structure) restructure the resulting output.

How did it shrink my filesize 14GB?

I'm not complaining, I just don't quite understand.

Sad that I'm a professional programmer by trade but when it comes to this video stuff I feel like a nooblet. :)

[jamos]

One thing I have noticed is the BD format remux has issues with ff/rw recorded to disk AVCHD or BD. It seems to pause after a bit and you have to stop/start to get it to play again. It happens with all my h264 sources so sending a source to you wouldn't matter. Using commercial remux software I do not have this issue with the same h264 sources (ie ff/rw work fine).

[jamos]

Pardom me for being "the noob" - I just used TSremux for the first time. I processed an R5000 recording off my Dish STB of a movie on StarzHD. The orginal file was 18GB (2 hours and change).

I used TSremux with all default options and just trimmed the beginning and ending few minutes.

The resulting file plays exactly as the original (minus the trimmed sections) - same PQ and audio, however, the file size is 3.8GB.

I haven't watched the entire thing from beginning to end yet but this is not was I was expecting.

I thought TSremux was just a way to "fix" some issues, easily trim beg/end, and in some cases (like moving to a Blu-ray structure) restructure the resulting output.

How did it shrink my filesize 14GB?

I'm not complaining, I just don't quite understand.

Sad that I'm a professional programmer by trade but when it comes to this video stuff I feel like a nooblet. :)


well if your original container was mpeg2 source (ie vob, etc.) mpeg4 significantly reduces size compared to a mpeg2.

[Exiton]

Hey guys,

I love the GUI of TsRemux compared to Xport, but whenever I try to process a Lossless PCM elementry stream (Blu-Ray) from TsRemux, eac3to cannot read it. The process I use is right clicking on the audio and choosing the elementary stream. When I input the same stream demuxed by Xport, it picks it up fine. I tried a PES stream as well, but got the same error in eac3to. Is there something I'm doing wrong?

Thanks

[nekrosoft13]

great tool thanks!!

[dmz01]

Source code released under GPL

dmz

[jamos]

Source code released under GPL

dmz

nice! you still going to work on this correct?

[dmz01]

Yes. and now people can officially help me as well. Their names will simply be added to the copyright :)

[Chumbo]

Source code released under GPL

dmz
Nice. Have you considered hosting the project at codeplex.com? It'd be easier for other developers to get in on the fun and collaborate. :) Just an idea.

[Gujs]

Hello,

I have a problem with loading TS file made with mediacoder. I get this error:
See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

************** Exception Text **************
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at TsRemux.TsRemux.EnableCbxMlp()
at TsRemux.TsRemux.backgroundWorker2_RunWorkerCompleted(Object sender, RunWorkerCompletedEventArgs e)
at System.ComponentModel.BackgroundWorker.OnRunWorkerCompleted(RunWorkerCompletedEventArgs e)
at System.ComponentModel.BackgroundWorker.AsyncOperationCompleted(Object arg)


************** Loaded Assemblies **************
mscorlib
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
CodeBase: file:///c:/WINDOWS/Microsoft.NET/Framework/v2.0.50727/mscorlib.dll
----------------------------------------
TsRemux
Assembly Version: 0.0.20.0
Win32 Version: 0.0.20.0
CodeBase: file:///C:/Share/Video/Editor/TSRemux/tsremux.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.1433 (REDBITS.050727-1400)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.





If you want I can upload it to some place to take a look. It has 35MB of size.

[dmz01]

Hello,

I have a problem with loading TS file made with mediacoder.

If you want I can upload it to some place to take a look. It has 35MB of size.

Yes please do

[Pelican9]

Is the subtitle stream inmux work in TsRemux?
I cannot try myself, because I'm not home and no any BD stuff in my laptop. I'm just curious, because I've just finished the BD stream export in SUPread.

[dmz01]

I didn't test it fully. It should, but I'm sure there are bugs.

[lance79]

U can remux a stream tht already has a .sup file in it.U cant add a supread .sup to an existing m2ts without subtitles.
Gives me errors like, no valid input format... Would be great if this could be fixed.

[Pelican9]

U can remux a stream tht already has a .sup file in it.U cant add a supread .sup to an existing m2ts without subtitles.
Gives me errors like, no valid input format... Would be great if this could be fixed.

And what about to change an existing subtitle stream to a new one made by SUPread?

[lance79]

When i load a sup into supread(0.47b4) it doesnt extract the new sup.It says it does but there is no file in selected output folder.Also i cant select blu-ray output, only hd-dvd.

And what about to change an existing subtitle stream to a new one made by SUPread?

[wgc_]

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Gujs]

Yes please do

I uploaded it to http://www.zshare.net/download/7952802dad5905/

[Pelican9]

When i load a sup into supread(0.47b4) it doesnt extract the new sup.It says it does but there is no file in selected output folder.Also i cant select blu-ray output, only hd-dvd.

You have to delete the registry keys of SUPread manually.
It's in HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Pelican Software/HDSUP
You can delete the whole folder.

[lance79]

Okay Supread works now, but tsremux still doesnt accept it.

You have to delete the registry keys of SUPread manually.
It's in HKEY_CURRENT_USER/Software/Pelican Software/HDSUP
You can delete the whole folder.

[survivant001]

there is another way to add subtitle in m2ts ?

[dmz01]

I uploaded it to http://www.zshare.net/download/7952802dad5905/

Loads and works fine here. What's the exact issue you see?

[lance79]

Yeah, u can use Subtitle Workshop 4 to create scenarist subtitle format and mux with it.Its possible to generate from srt this way

there is another way to add subtitle in m2ts ?

[jamos]

Yeah, u can use Subtitle Workshop 4 to create scenarist subtitle format and mux with it.Its possible to generate from srt this way

can you explain this, would love to get subtitles working for my guide.

[lance79]

Its explained by XolocoTuxmaster in a earlyer thread.I could not get sync correct with that version of Subtitle Workshop but they say problems are fixed in latest(beta 2), haven't tested myself.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1095653#post1095653

I think u can skip this part:

SUP:
Quote:
1. Use Supread's option 'Save bitmaps' to get the .png and .scn-sst files
2. Use the .scn-sst to create the .bdn (Sorry, I don't know the details)



can you explain this, would love to get subtitles working for my guide.

[Pelican9]

Its explained by XolocoTuxmaster in a earlyer thread.I could not get sync correct with that version of Subtitle Workshop but they say problems are fixed in latest(beta 2), haven't tested myself.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1095653#post1095653

I think u can skip this part:

SUP:
Quote:
1. Use Supread's option 'Save bitmaps' to get the .png and .scn-sst files
2. Use the .scn-sst to create the .bdn (Sorry, I don't know the details)

The newest version (0.49b) of SUPread can export BDN directly...

[jamos]

The newest version (0.49b) of SUPread can export BDN directly...

nice is the link in your sig ver. .49b??

[lance79]

Output to BDN when inporting sup seams to work but i cant load srt files with this version.
On load it gives me error:

abc.png not found!
You cannot import .srt files without it.

How hard is it to let supread create sup from bdn or srt directly?

The newest version (0.49b) of SUPread can export BDN directly...

[Pelican9]

Output to BDN when inporting sup seams to work but i cant load srt files with this version.
On load it gives me error:

abc.png not found!
You cannot import .srt files without it.

How hard is it to let supread create sup from bdn or srt directly?

You can download abc.png (http://pel.hu/down/abc.png) from my site. (RTM :))
As I wrote in SUPread's topic:

You can do the following now:
Import HD DVD subtitle stream -> export .srt subtitle
Import HD DVD subtitle stream -> export BD subtitle stream
Import HD DVD subtitle stream -> export bitmaps (BMP, PNG)
Import BD subtitle stream -> export .srt subtitle
Import BD subtitle stream -> export bitmaps (BMP, PNG)
Import BD subtitle stream -> export HD DVD subtitle stream
Import .srt subtitle -> export BD subtitle stream
Import .srt subtitle -> export bitmaps (BMP, PNG)
Import .srt subtitle -> export HD DVD subtitle stream

You can do also BD to BD or HD DVD to HD DVD but it doesn't make sense.

If you enable Scenarist export in Options, it creates subtitles.scn-sst and subtitles.bdn.xml also during bitmap saving.

I didn't understand exactly what other function do you need.

[lance79]

Well looks like all functions are there now, thanks alot for the work u put in.
You can download abc.png (http://pel.hu/down/abc.png) from my site. (RTM :))
As I wrote in SUPread's topic:

If you enable Scenarist export in Options, it creates subtitles.scn-sst and subtitles.bdn.xml also during bitmap saving.

I didn't understand exactly what other function do you need.