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hitbit
17th March 2005, 15:39
Perfect, thank you!
Mosu
17th March 2005, 15:43
Originally posted by MSlv
Is the site down or what? Where can I get the latest Haali Matroska splitter?
If I've understood Haali correctly he's in the process of switching DNS servers or sth like that. It should be ok later.
Kurtnoise
19th March 2005, 21:25
# 19/03/2005 Better handling of multichannel audio in mp4.
# 19/03/2005 Added wavpack support, vorbis in mp4 support.
# 17/03/2005 Added workarounds for broken and weird AVI files.
http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/
:)
Liisachan
20th March 2005, 01:29
Thanks for your great job again!
mkvtoolnix can eat Wavpack now too, but the next question is, where is "CoreWavpack"?
Wavpack is Muxable and allegedly Splitable, but not Playable in reality...?
multicone
21st March 2005, 23:21
Originally posted by Liisachan mkvtoolnix can eat Wavpack now too, but the next question is, where is "CoreWavpack"?
Check out matroska-devel mailing list on http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.multimedia.matroska.devel and equivalent post from Christian
Liisachan
22nd March 2005, 02:38
WV in MKV
OK, I'll post it here too. I tested with wavpack -hb160
> Only tested with 44100Khz 16bits stereo.
Apparently 48000/16 too worked for me.
- (XviD + WV 44100/16) YES, Worked!
- (XviD + WV 48000/16) YES, Worked!
- (XviD + WV 44100/24) _NOT_ worked
- (XviD + WV 48000/24) _NOT_ worked
Thank you and keep up a great job!!
@multicone, thx for the link, altho i'm subscribing that list
namchik
7th April 2005, 06:23
Playback of NeroDigital AVC mp4-files using VMR7 or VMR9 is jerky. Using Overlay Mixer is ok, but I don't like the colors...
opsis81
7th April 2005, 23:37
08/04/2005 Added timed text in mp4 (tx3g) support, text positioning is not supported yet.
I think this is so cool.Thanks Haali :)
Yong
8th April 2005, 18:06
I hope i'm wrong,
but i have performance issue with Haali matroska splitter...:(
first, i thought my system:
P4 2.4GHz
DDR266 512MB RAM,
Intel 845GRG motherboard,
System drive is Maxtor Diamond max plus 8 40 GB
Fireball 3 40 GB,(video file is inside this drive)
was too slow to decoding XviD(640x480 30fps) with ffdshow(20050303) with post processing filter
(Preset=max,automatic quality control;preocessing method:accurate deblocking + Nic's)
with blur/NR filter
(temporal smooth:4, process color
Denoise luma=4, chroma=3, time=6, HQ),
Media player claasic was become less responsive or hang...
after hang, calling the Task manager will taking sometime because MPC using full CPU usage...
(iirc audio stuttering or skip-frame will occured if decoding h264 or VP7 video files)
After swith back to old MPC buil-in matroska splitter,
no more slowdown or hang problem:D
Anyone have this experince?
JoeBG
9th April 2005, 10:37
Subtitles in mp4 work fine, but I don´t have any audio. Because Haali´s splitter does not split the chapters, they are lost too. But this is not the problem. The problem is, that I don`t have any audio
tedgo
9th April 2005, 15:35
@Yong
I had similar problems on my system (P4 1.5GHz "Williamette", 512MB SD-RAM), but its only with AVC in MKV/MP4. And its just a problem of my too slow system...
But i made a similar experience with MKVs included VobSubs.
Are there VobSubs in your MKVs?
I have no performance problems with MKVs and SRT-Subs.
@JoeBG
Have you installed the latest ffdshow?
Then you should enable AAC in its "Audio Decoder Configuration".
If you've unregistered the NeroParser neiter Video nor Audio in MP4 will be decoded by the Nero Decoders. So you have to set an other decoder to do the job.
Yong
9th April 2005, 15:54
Originally posted by tedgo
@Yong
I had similar problems on my system (P4 1.5GHz "Williamette", 512MB SD-RAM), but its only with AVC in MKV/MP4. And its just a problem of my too slow system...
But i made a similar experience with MKVs included VobSubs.
Are there VobSubs in your MKVs?
I have no performance problems with MKVs and SRT-Subs.
Most of my video clip(VP7, XviD and h264) just plain video stream, no audio and subtitle:)
For h264 and VP7 playback(no filter were used), the audio will become stuttering if reach high-motion scene.:(
tedgo
9th April 2005, 15:57
Maybe your system is still to slow for AVC/H264 or VP7.
You could try lowering the resolution (on my system most H264-encodings only works with resolutions up to 640*480)
But you have no problems with XviD in MKV/MP4?
Yong
9th April 2005, 16:03
Originally posted by tedgo
Maybe your system is still to slow for AVC/H264 or VP7.
But you haven't any problem with XviD in MKV/MP4?
May be,
I don't have slowdown problem with XviD in MKV,
if i don't use some CPU-hungry video filter(DenoiseHQ and Temporal smooth):)
EDIT: my system don't have problem with 800x600 res. h264 clips,
never try with VP7 :p(no chance to test the encoder and the 2-pass encodin is very slow...)
opsis81
10th April 2005, 12:12
10/04/2005 [MP4] Added AMR and h263 support. (3gp files)
JasonFly
10th April 2005, 16:12
I found something strange with this splitter. Nothing really important but I don't understand what's happenning:
When I try to load an matroska file into VirtualDub with the DirectShowSource() command of avisynth, that works but there are two Haali Media Splitter icon that are launched at the same time in the task bar. I'm wondering if this is normal.
That happen with files with maultiple audio tracks and multiple subtitles but also with only one audio track and no subtitle track.
The cool thing is that switching audio and subs in the tasks bar also switch them in virtualdub, i wouldn't have expected that.
I have just noticed something else. Maybe it's just due to VirtualDub because when I try to close this type of file in virtualdub with the close command, one icon disappear and the second disappear at the same time as the vdub preview window close.
BTW, this splitter fantastic, thanks for your work Haali.
pogo stick
11th April 2005, 10:09
Haali is wizard! Thanks a LOT! There are only 2 features in my "would be great" mp4 list are left: Nero chapters and aspect ratio reading from AVC.mp4 :)
kurt
13th April 2005, 15:58
13/04/2005 [MP4] Added nero chapters support. [AVI] Fixed reading DXN avis. [General] Fixed preroll handling.
http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/
planet1
13th April 2005, 16:00
Originally posted by pogo stick
Haali is wizard! Thanks a LOT! There are only 2 features in my "would be great" mp4 list are left: Nero chapters and aspect ratio reading from AVC.mp4 :)
seems that wishes come true :D
13/04/2005 [MP4] Added nero chapters support. [AVI] Fixed reading DXN avis. [General] Fixed preroll handling.
and with 10/04/2005 [MP4] Added AMR and h263 support. (3gp files)
both AMR NarrowBand and AMR WideBand are supported
(for H.263 video & AMR-NB audio - ffdshow is enough)
(AMR-WB might require a dedicated dshow filter)
Winterider
14th April 2005, 01:28
Hi guys,
First, congratulations for your very interesting alternative splitter...
But is it normal that it doesn't support the resize in post process when the display size is different that the pixel size ?
thanks.
clsid
14th April 2005, 22:06
Wow, development is going fast. Great work! What's next? Support for the Ogg container would be nice :D
What exactly are the pros (and cons) of the avi splitter compared to the default Microsoft one?
stephanV
14th April 2005, 22:33
you have build in stream switching for video, audio and subs. thats a big advantage i think :)
cons... im not sure... but maybe it does not handle files without index (if true not a big con)
of course, its not widely tested so there might still be some bugs, but im using it :)
niamh
15th April 2005, 07:31
im not sure... but maybe it does not handle files without index (if true not a big con)
No it doesn't :(
el_rico
15th April 2005, 10:50
Hello,
I dowloaded the latest version yesterday from Haali's site. I have tried different mkv files (xvid + chapters + subs), using Zoom Player, MPC (internal splitter disabled) or WMP, the result is the same : the CPU immediately goes to 100% and the only solution was to kill the process. It works with the internal MPC splitter and the one from Matroska Full Package (1.0.3, IIRC). Any hint?
Thanks!
niamh
17th April 2005, 21:22
New build today
# 17/04/2005 MPEG4 ASP and AVC pixel aspect ratio values in the bitstream are now replaced with Matroska DAR. Other containers are left as is.
Some backgound: I've spent this weekend dealing with aspect ratio issues due to (not so) recent decoder changes. DirectShow has a standard way of passing aspect ratio in the VIDEOINFOHEADER2 structure that is stored inside media type. Unfortunately, for this to work, these values need to passed right from the splitter down the filter chain. MPEG-2/4 bitstreams also have a way to store aspect ratio. Usually decoders simply passed on the AR info provided by the splitter and all worked fine. Buf recently some of them were changed to ignore media type AR info, and instead take AR from mpeg bitstream. This results in breaking playback for many existing matroska files, where PAR in bitstream is usually 1:1, and correct AR is in the container. To workaround this, I now modify mpeg bitstream on the fly and set PAR to values calculated from Matroska DAR.
bond
20th April 2005, 23:32
i noticed that haalis parser outputs wrong letters for special characters in mp4 chapters, like the german umlaute: ä, ö, ü etc...
it seems to happen no matter what tool i use to create the chapters (nero, 3ivx, mp4box)
the 3ivx mp4 splitter displays the chapternames on the same files fine
it seems thats an issue of the haali parser expecting utf or so, but i am not sure (and cant test the nero filters myself :( )
can anyone reproduce this? eg on mp4 files created with nero recode2 directly?
iapir
21st April 2005, 08:54
Nero chapters use a codepage ? Not UTF ??!!!
BlindWanderer
23rd April 2005, 09:57
I've got an imcompatability issue with MPC & haali when playing back files created with ASF2MKV (by Gabest). What happens is that when using the haali splitter for matroska it stalls on the initial opening of the file. To start playback the video first must be stopped (press the stop button), then started (press the play button).
this results in the video playing.
example file
http://home.comcast.net/~melkor/example.mkv
kurt
23rd April 2005, 12:20
jep, same problem with your file in zoomplayer too...
new build today:
03/05/2005 [Matroska] Improved ordered chapters support. Fix a bug when wrong frames were accidentally left in queue at file open, this could happen with some truncated files and files with unspecified segment length. [MP4] Add mp4a in qt support, so recent apple trailers play with audio.
http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/
@BlindWanderer: your problem seems to be fixed :)
BlindWanderer
5th May 2005, 02:27
yep it is :cool:
always fun to get a bug fixed :D
iapir
12th May 2005, 11:18
Haali's Media Splitter is now integrated in the new Matroska Pack.
There is a Release Candidate version available here : http://www.matroska.org/~robux4/pack/Matroska_Pack_Full_v1.1.0rc1.exe
update:
21/05/2005 [MP4] Added multiple sample descriptions for tx3g tracks support, added support for some more apple HD qt trailers. [Matroska] Map ARTIST tag to DS Author field.
http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/
update:
29/05/2005 [General] Don't show tray icon when called from explorer.exe, added mp4/avi on mode2 CDs support. [MP4] Register mp4 extension.
LeMoi
29th May 2005, 20:49
I'm looking for the old VSfilter 2.33 modded by Haali, because i have a lot of problems with Gabest's latest ones, is there a way i can find it ?
DonGato
29th May 2005, 20:59
Is this one?
http://dongato.dyndns.org/tmp/VSFilter.zip
here (http://www.free-codecs.com/Lazy_Man_MKV_download.htm)
233b is in the [ Lazy Man's MKV 0.92 - Stable ] download
LeMoi
29th May 2005, 22:59
Originally posted by DonGato
Is this one?
http://dongato.dyndns.org/tmp/VSFilter.zip
thanks, it's good :)
cheburashka
7th June 2005, 02:03
Clip encoded with the x264 CLI buil 253C using options -8 -A all
Playing it in ZoomPlayer with ND splitter and ffdshow-20050607 -- works perfectly. But if I use HAALI-20050527 splitter instead of ND, player is just closing.
Is it my problem or I need to wait for Haali splitter to support High Profile AVC stream in MP4 ?
Clip encoded with the x264 CLI buil 253C using options -8 -A all
Playing it in ZoomPlayer with ND splitter and ffdshow-20050607 -- works perfectly. But if I use HAALI-20050527 splitter instead of ND, player is just closing.
Is it my problem or I need to wait for Haali splitter to support High Profile AVC stream in MP4 ?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=664978#post664978
LeMoi
7th June 2005, 09:18
While i'm playing an mkv file, if explorer.exe crashes, the Haali splitter icon disapears and i cannot swith tracks and chapters any more :(
update:
07/06/2005 [General] Fixed avc sps parser to understand high profile.
http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/
helix
8th June 2005, 18:34
I'm getting an odd Graphedit graph when looking at a .mkv I muxed. Why does it say WMVideo Decoder DMO and not FFDshow? When it plays it the icons for VSFilter, FFDshow and Haali splitter come up, so I know everything that's suppost to be splitting and decoding is. Why the odd graph?
http://x4.putfile.com/6/15812315832.jpg
multicone
9th June 2005, 01:04
ffdshow has only support for WMV 7/8, so for your video containing WMV9 video the M$ DMO decoder is being used. All fine, nothing about this graph is odd.
helix
9th June 2005, 03:22
Ah, yes I see that that the video is encoded with WMV9. I should have stated that I didn't encode the video, I just muxed it with some audio. Perhaps if I had posted what the video format was, I would have solved my own problem. Thanks.
Kurtnoise
12th June 2005, 20:10
New version available :
12/06/2005 [General] Fixed a subtitle selection glitch inroduced in 07/06/2005 version. Removed AVI compatibility transforms from mp4 parser, and unified native mpeg-4 asp code in matroska and mp4 parsers. This was required for correct rendering of vfr streams and native mpeg-4 asp in Matroska. Native mpeg-4 asp is tested and works with ffdshow and nero decoders, xvid and divx decoders probably won't work due to a different format block. Warning: mkvmerge versions before 2005-06-12 have bugs in mpeg-4 asp processing.
http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/
kurt
25th June 2005, 10:09
update:
25/06/2005 [General] A bunch of small bugfixes and improvements. [MP4] Support AR correction for ASP video and nero decoder.
http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/
clsid
25th June 2005, 18:13
There is a bug in the 25/06 version.
When I have a file playing in MPC and I drag another file into it, a new instance of the haali trayicon appears, but the old instance stays active too. As a result there are also multiple active instances of the ffdshow audio and video decoders.
It happens with both mp4 and matroska files.
Palikrovol
25th June 2005, 18:30
There is a bug in the 25/06 version.
When I have a file playing in MPC and I drag another file into it, a new instance of the haali trayicon appears, but the old instance stays active too. As a result there are also multiple active instances of the ffdshow audio and video decoders.
It happens with both mp4 and matroska files.
No such a problem in my computer (at least with matroska files). I have WXP service pack2 installed.
pdanpdan
25th June 2005, 19:41
clsid: please check if you have enabled the registry hack to make available every dshow chain to graphedit (i think it's in girder)
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