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Paddington
24th September 2006, 10:48
... I had to insert carriage returns in the text to maintain the size (which is damned tricky in S.C. edit text mode by the way! Any keyboard shortcut for that?)
It turns out that in v2.0.5 the caret has disappeared when editing the subtitles (shortcut F2 - see the edit menu for shortcuts for the time fields), which I have restored in v2.0.6 (http://subtitlecreator.sourceforge.net).

In addition, Manusse has improved the SCSubtitleFilter (which does the subtitle overlay) to make it faster, and I have added his french manual to the release.

Paddington
24th September 2006, 10:54
hi,
now, would it be possible to draw a black subtitle box for AS LONG AS the movie running time? when subs are on, they'd be displayed. when subs are off, the black box would still be on. that'd be useful in case hardcoded or burn-in original sub timing does not match with translated sub timing, and you'd like to keep those ugly burnt-in subs out of sight!

i guess creating an empty sub to come up between two real text subs would work. but that'd mean creating twice as many subs! pointless...

I see the problem - this probably occurs mostly with DivX-->DVD movies (which I hardly ever use)... As you have already discovered, you can only have one subtitle turned on at all times, so whether SC can do it automatically or you insert the empty subtitles inside the srt file, that will be a similar result. Probably the easiest is to have a function that copies the original srt file, add empty subtitles automatically, and reload it again. That shouldn't be too hard to do, but I have little time at the moment.

In addition, <font color...> seems to become more popular, and they result in errors, so I first have to fix that. BTW, how would people want me to deal with those colors? I can add them automatically to the color palette, but this might overwrite some subtitles that have already been used elsewhere... Also, at the moment I can only use one foreground color (the DVD format allows multiple areas, but that wouldn't be so easy to implement at the moment), so any color code you would specify would affect the whole subtitle. Would that be OK?

derebo
24th September 2006, 14:14
paddington,

thanks for your beautiful piece of soft! yes, empty subs could be inserted by hand, but take a thousand subs. that'd be time-consuming! if a math function could do the calculation... that'd be great. of course, you decide and your time is yours.

concerning colors: imho, i take two options:
1.-import font colors from already existing subs so that all subs will have the same look
2.-choose my own colors but then all subs would have to have my chosen colors.

as you can see, i tend to standarize ;)

thanks and regards!

CoNS
27th September 2006, 14:02
derebo, you might be able to find inspiration in this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=110335).

xyncro
27th September 2006, 22:26
..what a pitty.. :(

i installed SubtitleCreator and a codec containing the clvsd.ax file which i also registered.. but still i'm gettting an error when trying to start SubtitleCreator..

i can't figur this one out.. i had it running once and now i'm only getting 'SubtitleCreator has encountered a problem and needs to close. bla bla bla'.. and now it won't start more then with this error message..

does anyone else have this problem and can advise..?

btw.. it looked like a great application..

thx..

Paulcat
28th September 2006, 15:37
Just so I am clear on a few things...

The primary text colour must be constant for each subtitle bitmap, but may be changed for different bitmaps in each subtitle "stream"?

And I assume this also applies to the subtitle position/size as well, in that each bitmap may be positioned in a different location from the previous one and need not be the same size?

That would be handy, but it would likely involve you having to save the subtitle as a "project", keeping the colours and the positions for each sub in a file. That would be nice, especially if one is called away from the computer during the middle of something..

Would it be technically possible to use, say, a secondary colour (like the AA colour) as a primary text colour for a second line of dialogue, to indicate a different speaker?

Paul

keep up the good work

manusse
28th September 2006, 18:31
Could you please give us more details about your problem.

i can't figur this one out.. i had it running once and now i'm only getting 'SubtitleCreator has encountered a problem and needs to close. bla bla bla'.. and now it won't start more then with this error message..


The "clvsd.ax file" is only for previewing your subs on top of the video so this should not be your problem.

So you are just opening SubtitleCreator and you get an exception?

It may be due to the fact that SubtitleCreator tries to open the last sub that you have open and that it has an error that causes an exception.

To check if it is the case, find the file named C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\Local Settings\Application Data\SubtitleCreator\MRU.txt and rename it to something else like MRUold.txt.

Try to open SubtitleCreator. If it is working, quit it, rename your file MRU.txt again and suppress its first line that points to a bad file.

If this doesn't solve your problem, you must give us more details like the whole text of the error message you get.

Cheers
Manusse

ElBoricua433
28th September 2006, 20:36
Okay Question, if a DVD came with no subtitles at all, like old DVD's, how do you add a subtitle for that DVD which never included Subtitles in the first place?

manusse
28th September 2006, 21:38
Hi,

I think this is a recurring question. There are many ways to do that. First you need to prepare a text file with your subtitles as text plus timings. Then you must convert these texts to bitmaps. And finally you must mux them with your DVD.

You can do those with many tools, freeware or not with different levels of automation.

The way I do it:
1°) Write a SRT file that corresponds to the audio track of the DVD: I use http://visualsubsync.corecodec.org/ that allows to enter text sentences corresponding to the audio slice of your DVD that you select with your mouse. It saves the result directly to a .srt file.
2°) Use SubtitleCreator's DVD Authoring Wizard that will allow you to create the bitmap stream and add it to your DVD with a very simple interface. It uses some other freewares that you must also install for demuxing the DVD, remuxing it and keeping the menus. (pgcdemux, muxman, vobblanker).

Let me tell you one trick of SubtitleCreator for DVD that have no subtitles. You must use the Format -> Use prefered subtitle colors when creating the SUP file (bitmap) because the original color palette of your DVD is probably set to all colors black.

Cheers
Manusse

xyncro
28th September 2006, 22:24
Hi manusse..

thx for your help, it worked by renaming the MRU file
now i was able to start SubtitleCreator again..

BUT.....

when i loaded a .srt file it happened again..
the application kinda looked so it won't start again
unless i rename the MRU file..

do i need to do this all the time i'm using SubtitleCreator..?

thx again for your help..

manusse
28th September 2006, 23:20
This means that SubtitleCreator has problems opening your subtitle file.
Could you send it to me (Private Message) so that I check.

Also you can tell SubtitleCreator not to load automatically the last opened file at startup.


Settings -> Automatically load...
Settings -> Save Settings

Cheers

EDIT : I've looked at your srt file. The problems comes from subtitle 1167: "Slut<!". When SubtitleCreator finds a '<', he expects the corresponding '>'. If possible just remove the '<' char and it will work. We will try to fix this in next version of SC.

Manusse

Mr Cool Span
30th September 2006, 15:28
Can some one plays help me?
I got this annoying problem
When I open a dvd in SubtitleCreator preview everything works fine except for the audio, I get no sound at all? And that makes sync of a subtile a little difficult
The SubtitleCreator ver I use is 2.0.5
Thanks

xyncro
30th September 2006, 23:32
Manusse.. thx for your help..

manusse
30th September 2006, 23:44
SubtitleCreator uses the default audio decoder that comes with your DVD decoder.

Do you have a DVD decoder installed?

Cheers
Manusse

Mr Cool Span
1st October 2006, 07:00
SubtitleCreator uses the default audio decoder that comes with your DVD decoder.

Do you have a DVD decoder installed?

Cheers
Manusse

Yes i got powerdvd and Nero showtime

manusse
1st October 2006, 13:41
Hi,

Could you first try to devalidate the overlay and play a DVD to see if it works or not:

Settings -> Check that "Overlay subtitles on DVD" is not checked.

Then Settings -> Save Settings.

Then restart SC and play your DVD. Check if there is sound or not. Tell me the result in this thread.

Cheers
Manusse

Mr Cool Span
1st October 2006, 14:04
Hi,

Could you first try to devalidate the overlay and play a DVD to see if it works or not:

Settings -> Check that "Overlay subtitles on DVD" is not checked.

Then Settings -> Save Settings.

Then restart SC and play your DVD. Check if there is sound or not. Tell me the result in this thread.

Cheers
Manusse
Sorry m8
I have fund the bug
It was the ff codec, after uninstall it all works just great
Thanx for the helpe and im sorry to take you time

vlada
4th October 2006, 07:33
Hello, I think there is quite a lot of confusion regarding AR of video in Subtitle Creator. I remember how I was completely lost before I did some tests and learned how subtitles on DVD work.

I have a suggestion on improving the way, how subtitle position should be displayed. I think the user should first select, if he has a 16:9 or 4:3 TV. Then he should select movie AR. The picture should be then displayed with correct AR and also the window for subtitle position should be adjusted according to the selected TV type.

If it is possible, the subtitles should be horizontally stretched if the users selects a 16:9 TV. Because they will be displayed so.

Currently the window which displays subtitle position is always 5:4. So if I select for example 16:9, the subtitle position is displayed absolutely wrong. If you don't understand what I mean, I can post some screenshots.

Also I don't understand, what should the switch Anamorfic/Letterbox do. I doesen't make to much sense for me.

Paulcat
4th October 2006, 17:40
What if you are watching a 16:9 dvd on a regular 4:3 television?

Paddington: Another thing I noted the other day, if I play a video file with a subtitle file in text (.srt) format with vobsub active, it allows a subtitle to remain on the screen and a second one to overlap if the start time of the second sub is earlier than the stop time of the first. For example:

001
00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,000
This is the first title which ends at 3 seconds

002
00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,000
This sub starts at 2 seconds, before the last one ends

Can subtitle creator be set to correct (or flag) the timing of subs in this case? And, as an aside, does the start time of sub #2 have to be 1 msec after the end of sub #1 or can the times be exactly the same?

---

I have also been working on some text subs in which some lines are quite long, I set the subtitle window to 700 pixels wide with a space of 10 on each side, and in the completed project, the start and end of some words were offscreen. Is there a "tv-safe" limit to the size of the window?

Paul

manusse
4th October 2006, 17:59
Hi Paulcat,

Could you just explain what you mean by "with vobsub active".

As SubtitleCreator doesn't use vobsub to overlay the subtitles I don't see your point?

[Edit] Also I've checked you example and it seems SC is fixing the srt file automatically!

Cheers
Manusse

vlada
4th October 2006, 22:02
Paulcat> If you are watcing 16:9 DVD on a 4:3 TV, the subtitles should look like this:

http://jech.webz.cz/obrazky/titulky3_m.png

What wasn't clear to you?

Paddington
5th October 2006, 10:12
Can subtitle creator be set to correct (or flag) the timing of subs in this case? And, as an aside, does the start time of sub #2 have to be 1 msec after the end of sub #1 or can the times be exactly the same?

---

I have also been working on some text subs in which some lines are quite long, I set the subtitle window to 700 pixels wide with a space of 10 on each side, and in the completed project, the start and end of some words were offscreen. Is there a "tv-safe" limit to the size of the window?
Paul
About the first point: doesn't SC already correct this if you turn it on - if I remember correctly (not guaranteed :-) the start frame of the next subtitle should at least be later than the end time of the previous subtitle.
About the difference of 1msec - since everything is frame based, it will take at least 3ms for each frame, so don't worry about that.

About the second question: Settings|Show Frame Markers allows you to show some safe areas.

Paulcat
6th October 2006, 17:10
Vlada:

I was being sarcastic, sorry! I think you mean that even with a widescreen film, the subtitle position changes depending if you are watching it on a standard or widescreen television, and when you are working with SC you cannot account for that.

How does your current dvd player play subs from commercial dvd's? If your dvd player is set up for a 16:9 television, doesn't the player automatically adjust the subtitle position beyond anyone's ability to adjust it in subtitle creator?

Manusse:

I often subtitle from avi files, and I use media player classic which will display .srt subtitles over the video (if vobsub is installed) to check the subtitle timing. Vobsub will not correct the start/end times and allow two subs to overlap, which won't happen on a dvd, so I was wondering what SC would do with a "nonstandard' srt file, but you've already answered that!

Paddington:

So that's what Show Frame Markers does...sheeit...now the question I have is why is there two? Is the inner one a safe area and the outer one a cautionary area? And I see what vlada is discussing more clearly too, if you could flip between 16:9 tv and 4:3 tv, you could see whether or not your subs look equally well positioned on both types of tv's (assuming you would be willing to lend out your dvd to people who have differently shaped televisions from you...!)


Paul

vlada
6th October 2006, 19:22
Paulcat> I don't own a standalone DVD player, but I create quite often DVDs for my friend. They have different types of TVs and of course I want to have perfect subtitles. I know how to create them in SC. But it is very confusing for an inexperienced user.

I created here a thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=110830) concerning subtitle positioning on PC. It might be interesting for you.

Anyway the fact is, that a standalone player uses (or at least should) different subtitle streams when it is connected to a 4:3 and 16:9 TV. So you need to create 2 subtitle streams for each language/size/colour etc., if you have a widescreen movie. If you don't the subtitles won't look correct. They will be deformed on one of the 2 TV types.

tomywong
12th October 2006, 05:19
Paddington :

Can you update CVS site too ? It is SC v2.04 at the moment. Thank you.

changjunk
12th October 2006, 08:32
Hi,

I would like to ask to support another type format rather than sup. I've enjoyed a custom Korean subtitled DVD with Muxmand and SC for a long time.

However sometime Muxman refuse to muxing due to high video bitrate. So I have to try another DVD authoring tool and faced on the troulble with subtile. There are a lot of tool that can make sst or son file format. However the quality of subtitle is poor compare with SC.

If SC can support sst or son file format in the future, I'll be VERY happy!

TIA.

Mtz
12th October 2006, 11:10
When muxman will not create some IFO because "high bitrate", it already created the all VOBs files needed for you.
Because you have the all vobs you just need the IFO. Use for this IFOEdit and "Create IFOs". IFOs will be created, but no information about languages used in the audio and subtitles tracks. I think you can add this info with IFOEdit or PGCEdit.

enjoy,
Mtz

manusse
12th October 2006, 21:28
@tomywong

Paddington has moved the files under SVN.
You will always find the latest version under Subversion as we use it to share source code.

http://svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/subtitlecreator/

@changjunk

I am preparing the compatibility (in and out) with sub/idx (i.e. vobsub files). Maybe it can help you.

Cheers
Manusse

tomywong
13th October 2006, 09:20
manusse :

Thank you, I got it. Now, SC mostly maintain by you ?

manusse
13th October 2006, 17:18
Hi tomywong,

No, SC is maintained by Paddington.

I've developped the DirectShow filter used by SC (>=2.0.0) for overlaying the subtitles. So I know SC a bit and I am trying to help when I think I know the answer.

Cheers
Manusse

BoJangles
16th October 2006, 19:51
@every1,

Hello there people, I'm from the Netherlands and I trying to use SubtitleCreator v.2.0.6. Everything is set up nicely but everytime when I try to replace a subtitle I get an error during the vobblanker part in the proces.

ERROR: ifo has more than one PGC: Unsupported

It drives me nuts. Does (or did) anybody have the same problem and knows where it is comming from. And, more important, know's how to fix it?

All the right program's are set and installed correctly. I even redid everything to make sure I did it right. I've had this problem now with the 4 dvd's that I tried to make and I have no idea what it is. I can't even find anything about it in the forums or with google.

Help me, please :thanks:

kle500
17th October 2006, 00:47
Hello people.
I am sorry if that has been answered befire, but i couldn't find the right answer to my problem.

I am trying to put subtitles on a DVD (it's not new, you will say), that doesn't have.
Ok, i have made my subs in Subtitle Workshop, and i am trying to put them into DVD (no synch errors).
But whatever i do, whatever color i choose for the fonts, the final DVD, has very very strange colors, but never the correct ones (White, with Black stroke).

My proccedure is like this:
I open the program, i choose video format (ntsc for example), i choose a profile (arial narrow), i correct the vertical, colors are (09,03,02,08), i save to sup.


Then i go to DVD Author wizard.
Choose video -> subtitle 1 (gr) -> browse sup subtitle.
That's it.

Now when the DVD is finished the subs are: RED(fill), YELLOW (anti-alias), WHITE (stroke).

If i choose USE PREFFERED SUBTITLE COLORS, the subs are total mess, with deep green, purple etc.

Do i do something wrong?
Is there any way i can fix this?


Regards
Kle500

Paddington
17th October 2006, 05:47
@kle500
You should use the DVD authoring wizard from the start, browse to your text based subtitle file, etc. Than it will work.
The problem you have occurs because you create the sup with the default IFO color palette, not with the one that is part of the DVD, and which will be loaded by the authoring wizard. Alternatively, you can (before creating the sup) open the main IFO file, i.e. the largest IFO file in your dvd, which allows SC to read the IFO color palette and PAL/NTSC.

@Bojangles
This seems to be a problem related to VB, not SC. Are you trying to subtitle a TV-Series, perhaps, which is not supported by SC? Can you open the VobBlanker project file (in the SC_TEMP directory) manually - and see how that looks like?

BoJangles
17th October 2006, 08:50
This seems to be a problem related to VB, not SC. Are you trying to subtitle a TV-Series, perhaps, which is not supported by SC? Can you open the VobBlanker project file (in the SC_TEMP directory) manually - and see how that looks like?

@Paddington,

No, I am not trying to sub a TV-Serie. In this case I am trying to replace an existing sub (the French and 2nd on the DVD) with a Dutch sub.

I am not sure wich 'project file' you ment. In de SC_Temp dir. I have a VobBlanker.ini file, a LogFile.txt and a muxmanlog. I Assume you ment the VobBlanker.ini in wich I didn't see any errors (but what the hell do I know) I will copy and past it below. Maybe you see anything unusual. If it is the wrong file, please let me know.

============== VobBlanker.ini =============

[General]
Version=2.1.0.0
InputPath=H:\[Movies]\_ Monster.House.2006\[Original]
OutputPath=H:\[Conversions]\SubtitleCreator\DVD_Final\VIDEO_TS\
nIFOs=21
CheckFolder=0
CheckMenu=1
CheckTitle=1
CheckVobPuops=1
CheckIfoPuops=1
[FixVOBPointers]
CheckFixTitlePointers=0
CheckFixMenuPointers=0
[Replace]
CheckElapsed=1
CheckFixVobsReplacing=0
CheckCopyPalette=1
CheckCopyAttrib=1
CheckCopyStatus=1
CheckSubsAR=1
[ScanVOBUs]
CheckAutoScan=0
ScanNVOBUs=4
[PGC options]
CheckPostPre=1
CheckPostPreForced=0
CheckNextMenu=1
CheckNextTitle=1
CheckPrevMenu=1
CheckPrevTitle=1
CheckAttrMenu=1
CheckAttrTitle=1
[Motion2Still]
CheckBlankNoB=1
CheckOneSecStill=1
MaxStillTime=4
MinStillTime=9
IFrameMode=1
[VobLayout]
CheckVobFill=0
CheckVobOrder=0
CheckVobMUnref=0
CheckVobLUnref=0
CheckVobRenumber=1
CheckClockDisc=1
[Backup]
CheckBckMul=0
CheckBckVts=0
[Replacing Cells]
nReplacedCells=0
[Cells to Still]
nStillCells=0
[Cells to Split]
nSplitCells=0
[VIDEO_TS]
ActionVTS=PROCESS
[VTS01]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_01=0
ActionT01_01=REPLACE
Replacing Title_01_01=H:\[Movies]\_ Monster.House.2006\[Original]\Remuxed\VTS_01_0.IFO
Replacing Size_01_01=4614957056
CutInfo_01_01=0 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1
[VTS02]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_02=0
[VTS03]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_03=0
[VTS04]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_04=0
[VTS05]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_05=0
[VTS06]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_06=0
[VTS07]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_07=0
[VTS08]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_08=0
[VTS09]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_09=0
[VTS10]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_10=0
[VTS11]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_11=0
[VTS12]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_12=0
[VTS13]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_13=0
[VTS14]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_14=0
[VTS15]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_15=0
[VTS16]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_16=0
[VTS17]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_17=0
[VTS18]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_18=0
[VTS19]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_19=0
[VTS20]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_20=0
[VTS21]
nPGCs=1
ActionVTS=PROCESS
VOBAlreadyScan_21=0

================ End of Message ==================

kle500
17th October 2006, 09:51
@kle500
You should use the DVD authoring wizard from the start, browse to your text based subtitle file, etc. Than it will work.
The problem you have occurs because you create the sup with the default IFO color palette, not with the one that is part of the DVD, and which will be loaded by the authoring wizard. Alternatively, you can (before creating the sup) open the main IFO file, i.e. the largest IFO file in your dvd, which allows SC to read the IFO color palette and PAL/NTSC.

Thank's, it worked fine.
All i had to do after i choose my subtitle (and profile), was to load the main movie IFO from my DVD, then all went correct, with White Font and Black Stroke.

Two questions:
1)Why when i choose DVD Author Wizard, the substream for the subtitle is Number 3 and Language to Romanian?
My DVD doesn't have any Sub.
Can we choose the Defaults to be 1 and (for example) English as language?

2) Is the subtitle we add to a DVD, enabled by default?
I mean, when i author a DVD from Scratch, i make a menu for Subtitles, with 2 selections, 1 ENABLE and another one OFF.
I have also enabled in my authoring program to have the subs allways eneble whenever you put it on DVD Player.

Does the Subs from SC, allways enebled ?

Thank you very much

Regards

iElectric
19th November 2006, 21:59
I get this error on wizard:

Win32 Version: 2.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///D:/programi/SubtitleCreator/SubtitleCreator.exe
----------------------------------------
System.Windows.Forms
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Windows.Forms/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Windows.Forms.dll
----------------------------------------
System
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.dll
----------------------------------------
System.Drawing
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Drawing/2.0.0.0__b03f5f7f11d50a3a/System.Drawing.dll
----------------------------------------
DShowNET
Assembly Version: 1.0.0.1
Win32 Version: 1.0.0.1
CodeBase: file:///D:/programi/SubtitleCreator/DShowNET.DLL
----------------------------------------
System.Xml
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.50727.42 (RTM.050727-4200)
CodeBase: file:///C:/WINDOWS/assembly/GAC_MSIL/System.Xml/2.0.0.0__b77a5c561934e089/System.Xml.dll
----------------------------------------
ListViewEx
Assembly Version: 1.0.2297.19690
Win32 Version: 1.0.2297.19690
CodeBase: file:///D:/programi/SubtitleCreator/ListViewEx.DLL
----------------------------------------
SubtitleCreator.resources
Assembly Version: 2.0.0.0
Win32 Version: 2.0.0.0
CodeBase: file:///D:/programi/SubtitleCreator/en/SubtitleCreator.resources.DLL
----------------------------------------

************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
<system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

manusse
19th November 2006, 22:42
Could you please explain how this exception occured. What were you doing?

Cheers
Manusse

iElectric
19th November 2006, 23:02
Trying to insert .srt into dvd through that wizard... On this error i click continue but later at demuxing i get some ifo0 error and it aborts. I will try again tomorrow and make a screenshot.

derebo
20th November 2006, 14:09
hey! I'm not the only one! i keep getting this error all the time and I thought I was the only one! :( I didn't try it many times so I just expected a new release to "magically" fix it. All I remember is I followed instructions, just as iElectric states.

regards,

manusse
20th November 2006, 19:20
I just expected a new release to "magically" fix it
Please if anybody encounters such an error, do post in this thread. There is no magic at all. We can only fix bug that we can reproduce. There is no other means.

Otherwise, regarding your problem:
One of the things you must pay attention to is to put your original files in a path that doesn't use accentuated chars (like é, ...). Also don't use spaces (My documents...).

So choose a simple path for your files like C:\MYDVD.

Hope this helps
Manusse

iElectric
20th November 2006, 21:42
Could not find a part of the path
'I:\blabla\SC_TEMP\The.Notebook.sup'

http://shrani.si/files/screenshot1104275.jpg

And then at demuxing at 64%:

http://shrani.si/files/screenshot1104408.jpg

manusse
20th November 2006, 22:43
Hi iElectric,

I've already seen this kind of error before and it was related to the path of the files as I've mentioned before. However your path doesn't have any space or accentuated char.

Clearly, the error text states that it can't open one file.
Maybe the problem is due to the name of your sup. Could you change it so that there is no extra '.' in it.

'I:\blabla\SC_TEMP\The.Notebook.sup'

-->

'I:\blabla\SC_TEMP\The_Notebook.sup'


Just to check.

[EDIT]: Check also that your path is not read-only and that there is enough free space on your harddisk.
[EDIT2]: I've looked carefuly at your message and could finally reproduce the bug. I will tell you what's happening ASAP.
[EDIT3]: Finally, I've got it. You can avoid the error by putting your .SRT file in the SAME directory as your original DVD files. This should work: "It's a kind of magic..."

Cheers
Manusse

Paddington
21st November 2006, 07:25
@Paddington,
No, I am not trying to sub a TV-Serie. In this case I am trying to replace an existing sub (the French and 2nd on the DVD) with a Dutch sub.

I am not sure wich 'project file' you ment. In de SC_Temp dir. I have a VobBlanker.ini file, a LogFile.txt and a muxmanlog. I Assume you ment the VobBlanker.ini in wich I didn't see any errors (but what the hell do I know) I will copy and past it below. Maybe you see anything unusual. If it is the wrong file, please let me know.


Hi BoJangles (BTW, I'm also Dutch)

Looking at your VB.ini file, I think it's due to your filenames: choose a path which doesn't start with a _ and space. You can also try to open the VB.ini file in VB manually - maybe it will complain in that case, indicating that the folders cannot be read.

Hope this helps.

Paddington
21st November 2006, 07:30
Two questions:
1)Why when i choose DVD Author Wizard, the substream for the subtitle is Number 3 and Language to Romanian?
My DVD doesn't have any Sub.
Can we choose the Defaults to be 1 and (for example) English as language?

2) Is the subtitle we add to a DVD, enabled by default?
I mean, when i author a DVD from Scratch, i make a menu for Subtitles, with 2 selections, 1 ENABLE and another one OFF.
I have also enabled in my authoring program to have the subs allways eneble whenever you put it on DVD Player.

Does the Subs from SC, allways enebled ?

Thank you very much

Regards
About 1: Probably the IFO file does contain a reference to two subtitles, which is why your DVD starts with #3. It might also be that my processing of IFO's is not perfect, though, but it should normally be OK.
The preferred subtitle language can be set and saved - select your language using the drop down menu, press the floppy disk to save it, and next time, your preferred language should appear. Note that when you do that, all other settings will be saved too.

About 2: SC allows the automatic enabling of a subtitle (or rather, I should say that muxman allows that). However, if you use VB to restore the menus, it doesn't work anymore. So you can choose - either restore the menus using VB, or don't copy the menus and enable subtitles by default.

iElectric
21st November 2006, 15:00
manusse, thank you! This should be put in FAQ or even better let the program warn you about it. Thanks again.

BTW: what would be the easiest way to change picture for subtitles in menu from Swede to Slovenian?

I still get that stat0.ifo error:

http://shrani.si/files/screenshot1104408.jpg

Any idea what's wrong there?

24.02.2005 01:08 98.929 TheNotebook.srt
21.11.2006 16:45 <DIR> VIDEO_TS
28.09.2006 16:37 20.480 VIDEO_TS.BUP
28.09.2006 16:37 20.480 VIDEO_TS.IFO
28.09.2006 16:37 157.696 VIDEO_TS.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 18.432 VTS_01_0.BUP
28.09.2006 16:37 18.432 VTS_01_0.IFO
28.09.2006 16:37 10.240 VTS_01_0.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 71.680 VTS_01_1.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 18.432 VTS_02_0.BUP
28.09.2006 16:37 18.432 VTS_02_0.IFO
28.09.2006 16:37 12.288 VTS_02_0.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 20.480 VTS_02_1.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 18.432 VTS_03_0.BUP
28.09.2006 16:37 18.432 VTS_03_0.IFO
28.09.2006 16:37 10.240 VTS_03_0.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 61.440 VTS_03_1.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 110.592 VTS_04_0.BUP
28.09.2006 16:37 110.592 VTS_04_0.IFO
28.09.2006 16:37 300.345.344 VTS_04_0.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 1.073.739.776 VTS_04_1.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 1.073.739.776 VTS_04_2.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 1.073.739.776 VTS_04_3.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 1.073.739.776 VTS_04_4.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 72.544.256 VTS_04_5.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 22.528 VTS_05_0.BUP
28.09.2006 16:37 22.528 VTS_05_0.IFO
28.09.2006 16:37 10.240 VTS_05_0.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 133.120 VTS_05_1.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 18.432 VTS_06_0.BUP
28.09.2006 16:37 18.432 VTS_06_0.IFO
28.09.2006 16:37 10.240 VTS_06_0.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 71.680 VTS_06_1.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 18.432 VTS_07_0.BUP
28.09.2006 16:37 18.432 VTS_07_0.IFO
28.09.2006 16:37 10.240 VTS_07_0.VOB
28.09.2006 16:37 10.240 VTS_07_1.VOB
37 File(s) 4.669.028.977 bytes

manusse
21st November 2006, 20:22
This should be put in FAQ or even better let the program warn you about it

Actually it's a bug that's been discovered thanks to your report. I will try to fix it for the next release 2.1.

[EDIT]: I've fixed it for version 2.1

About your current problem:
Could you please PM me the following files from your SC_TEMP directory:

LogFile.txt
muxmanlog
VobBlanker.ini

If you have question about changing the menu ..., I think this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/forumdisplay.php?f=61)is more appropriate.

Thanks
Manusse

iElectric
21st November 2006, 22:48
What version of vobblanker should i use?

Here are the files.
http://www.rarhost.com/download-tlpatn.html

manusse
21st November 2006, 23:14
I've looked at your files. I see no error message in the logs.

The authoring process involves:
1°) SC for creating the SUP file from your SRT
2°) pgcdemux for demuxing your DVD
3°) muxman for remuxing it
4°) vobblanker to recreate the menues.

It seems the problem is at the last step.

Does your harddisk hold enough free space (I think 3 times the DVD size is recommended)?

You could try the wizard and unclick the "Keep the menu by replacing ..." to see if it works. Then, if you need to keep the menus, try to finish the job by hand using Vobblanker.

I use version v2.1.1.0 RC1 of VB. The last one should also work although I didn't test it.

Cheers
Manusse

iElectric
21st November 2006, 23:19
I have plenty of space (250gb).

Yes, vobblaneker is the problem. I tried two different dvds, so the dvd isn't the problem. I will try as you said and will report it to you tomorrow.

PS: I did as you said. I used vobblanker extra after the authoring.. It worked well. But when i play the movie there are no slovenian subs that i inserted.

redia
24th November 2006, 14:46
I have 3 questions and 1 comment :

question 1 :
sorry if I missed it
but I would like to know what support you plan to implement for vobsub.

as you are probably aware no tools does exist to render multiple SRT languages to a vobsub file (idx/sub) while this would be pretty handy to a lot of standalone player owners who have to manually change the srt filename when they want to have a different subtitle....

right now I worked on 2 differents procedure to do that.
if you like full control :
SC : converting srt to sup
muxman : muxing a blank bmp (with a long duration) with the sup
vobsub or vsrip : to extract the idx/sub from the created VOB

if you like ease of use (but you need a blank/fake dvd file ready):
SC : dvdwizard tool to mux srt directly to the ifo
vobsub or vsrip : to extract the idx/sub

question 2 :
is there a possibility of batching the conversion ?
i.e. i have a bunch of SRT, I would like to convert them all in SUP.....


question 3 :
I saw on your sourceforge page that you had your first donation.. congratulation !!!
but I didn't know we can donate (checked on the soft help menu or everywhere else...)
I discovered your tools not so long ago, but from what I see it will very probably end-up beeing the only srt convertion tool I will use, therefore I would love to contribute somehow...


comments :
I am no subtitle expert.
but I have been trying to check everything I could find for srt to sup (to idx/sub as you understood from my first question) solution.
and yours is really great. or at least it fits my needs so I would like to really thank you for your great work...

Cheers,
Redia