DVD Rebuilder (CCE One-Click Beta v0.46) Comments and Suggestions

[DDogg]

jdobbs, suggested test sources:

ISpy - silly movie, but has both wide-screen and normal movie, plus some trailers. Some menu problems that may help your diagnostics.

Xmen2 - seems near a worse case scenario. Long movie plus a zillion trailers - reduction is 28% so the projected bitrate is approx 1450 for movie.
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Another subject -Originally posted by jdobbs
If I did this I'd have to have percentages or something to that effect entered... if I let someone pick bitrates directly you can bet the output would never fit. Ah, I think this could be automated much easier than you think [bad phrasing - lot of assumptions on my part]. Here are two variants:

1> Easiest - User, or you, sets a minimum acceptable quality for main movie, i.e., like 38. Run ONE 1% sample of the main movie (under 2 minutes)using OPV set for 38 (0-9000). The resulting sample size X 100 is the filesize. Extrapolate the needed bitrate and feed that back to multipass which will deliver an approximate quality in a known space (exactly). Since you now know (in advance of real encode) how much space the main movie will take, just give what is left to everything else. This method is the regular Multipass you are using except it takes the source complexity/compressibility into effect automatically. Deadly quality prediction and deadly file size accuracy all for a total cost of a whopping 2 minutes. :)

2> Set minimum quality acceptable to the user for everything but main movie. Do variation of above. Give balance to movie.

/add: ah, no way this method could co-reside with the dynamic bitrate allocation method. Sorry for bringing it up.

[U977]

In response to RB,

Last movie I noticed it on: Spirited Away, zone 2 (it's an anime)

And I'm currently doing "K-19" taht way, too. Exactly the same conditions:
Frame type= progressive
DCT type= field
(will have results tomorrow evening)

Here is one of the thread I looked at, regarding this issue:
Original thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=70225&perpage=20&pagenumber=1)

RB, you participated to that thread. Erm, did I understand in the wrong way what was said? Yet, I didno't meet a problem encoding as Interlaced. But I did if encoding as progressive.

I'm lost again lol

But I refer to what Kika said:
Although the source video was progressive, it will be handled as interlaced while decoding if you use interlaced Mode while encoding.
So my first statement is wrong. We have to use Interlace=true to get the correct decodet Video.

However, what i wrote about the Scan order was correct. It does not have a direct influence to the Colors.

If the source is an interlaced encodet progressive Video, you should use interlaced=true on any colorspace conversion.

I just realized he speaks about color space, though, not about pic structure...
So, now, I wonder if my color spaces are messed up. It's a nightmare.

[RB]

Right, DCT type has nothing to do with chroma AFAIK, also confirmed by Kika in that thread.

But again that's really odd, because according to various sources on the web (for instance, see http://www.bretl.com/mpeghtml/fldfrm.HTM), progressive sequences can have Frame DCT only. I wonder what encoder they are using that uses field DCT for progressive frames??

So are you saying for this type of video you are using ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) and when you then encode as progressive, it looks wrong in some places? Have you tried ConvertToYUY2() instead?

Also, if you wouldn't mind, please download http://home.t-online.de/home/340044300675/dvd2avirb.zip. That's a modified version of DVD2AVIdg I created that when saving a project, also creates a log file (d2vname.log) in the same directory with several statistics. Can you run that against these VOBs and post the log file? I'm mostly interested in the numbers for "Progressive" and "FrameDCT". AFAIK BitrateViewer examines only the first I-Frame but this DVD2AVI version examines all the pictures. Thanks.

[wmansir]

Originally posted by RB
Also, if you wouldn't mind, please download http://home.t-online.de/home/340044300675/dvd2avirb.zip. That's a modified version of DVD2AVIdg I created that when saving a project, also creates a log file (d2vname.log) in the same directory with several statistics.
Thanks for posting that RB. I meant to ask you about it when you mentioned it earlier, but either forgot or didn't want to bother you.

[huesage]

Originally posted by Joergen
If your PC cannot stay up all night encoding without crashing, fix the PC first.. it has serious problems.

Yes, you are absolutely right, and I have been working on narrowing down the problem and replacing the parts for about a week now, I just received my new RAM from OCZ today and I am running:

- DVD Rebuilder 0.31
- CCE SP Trial 2.66 ;-)
- EclCCE 1.8b
- Big Lebowski NTSC (has both Full and Widescreen versions)

And so far all is going well. I will post my results once i burn it onto DVD-RW and play it on my Philips DVD727.

[Rombaldi]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Why not? I can imagine an occasional glitch -- but none? Yes, that's not a bad idea.

I was going to sugges that myself... basically a 'Suspend' button. Press it and DVDRB saves the current state of encoding and won't
start another encode process, so you can come back later.

[Joergen]

For people wanting to choose the compression ratios etc I'd like to suggest:

You can use dvdshrink to reauthor the main movie with no compression and the desired tracks and subs, and then dvd-rb to work its magic for the compression. This is a great option for really long movies if you dont want to split. And jdobbs doesnt ever need to add a reauthor/movie only option to his tool cause shrink already does it all.

Should produce pretty solid backups each time with the dvd-rb betas too since you eliminate problematic menu and stills in vobs when you reauthor just the main movie.

[jdobbs]

I will probably not do a movie-only version, but I do plan to make it possible to apply different compression factors to each of a DVD's VTSs.

[Axlemar]

This may not directly apply, but everytime I use DvdRemake 1.4 along with DVD ReBuilder (any version), I always get an overflow message and if I use DvdRemake then dvdshrink the chapter points lock up and I have to press next to continue. Does anyone else have these kind of problems with DvdRemake and is there any other software that can remove almost any section from a dvd and can be used with DVD Rebuilder? Sorry that this isn't really a suggestion and keep up the good work on DVD Rebuilder!

[robw]

DVDReMake works fantastic for me.

[Axlemar]

DvdRemake gives me this in its log file.
DvdReMake 1.3.1 started - Sun Apr 04 16:31:35 2004

Read DVD from:E:\VIDEO_TS
Read VMG
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_01_0.IFO
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
E:\VIDEO_TS\VTS_02_0.IFO
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Warning! PGC Commands Table size is incorrect.
Close project: stop parser...ok

any ideas on a fix?

[Joergen]

Originally posted by jdobbs
but I do plan to make it possible to apply different compression factors to each of a DVD's VTSs.

That will certainly be a great option for many dvds.

There was some discussion about vob titles (that arent the _0.vob) containing menu items and menu compression:

I wish you could find the time to look at either detecting if a vob title has menus in it (and then just copy as-is) or true menu compression. If you want to do some tests I noticed the THX optimizer in many discs (like indiana jones trilogy) is in a _1.vob and contains lots of menus and stills).

Although it's rarely that a menu can or should be compressed (often they turn out horrible cause they're already low bitrate). And again we can use dvdshrink to compress some menus or butcher out unwanted bits with other tools.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
That will certainly be a great option for many dvds.

There was some discussion about vob titles (that arent the _0.vob) containing menu items and menu compression:

I wish you could find the time to look at either detecting if a vob title has menus in it (and then just copy as-is) or true menu compression. If you want to do some tests I noticed the THX optimizer in many discs (like indiana jones trilogy) is in a _1.vob and contains lots of menus and stills).

Although it's rarely that a menu can or should be compressed (often they turn out horrible cause they're already low bitrate). And again we can use dvdshrink to compress some menus or butcher out unwanted bits with other tools. That's coming. In fact I've already done a significant amount of the programming to prepare for it. But first I want to have a stable baseline that generates consistently good DVDs without major bugs.

[robw]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That's coming. In fact I've already done a significant amount of the programming to prepare for it. But first I want to have a stable baseline that generates consistently good DVDs without major bugs.

You are certainly getting there. I have very few problems. I'm very thankful that some of the people on this board are very "picky" because it does help in getting the program even better. But its already very good!

[U977]

@RB,

I will do a run with your posted version od DVD2AVI.

I can already say that I played with bitrate viewer on K-19 this morning (before going to work). More exactly, on K-19 files "decrypted" by DVDDecrypter.

Depending on the VOB file that I select (main movie only, I did not do the mistake to select extras), I get different results in Bitrate viewer. Sometimes it says frame type = interlaced, other times it says frame type = progressive. Even DCT type is changing, and scanning order. Such changes on the same movie, just by checking anotehr VOB file from the main movie.

My conclusion: something is wrong with bitrate viewer, and I would not trust it anymore.

Here is what I did until now: using bitrate viewer on one of the VOB files of the main movie to manually choose CCE settings. Most of the time, I was using the first file, and that's where I get DCT type = field while frame type = progressive.
Then I reauthor and burn on a rewritable, and check on a standalone player. Checking on a computer is never enough: it seems that computer players are able to correct mistakes such as encoding as interlaced when it's progressive and so on.
I'm never able to spot any mistake on my computer, when watching a video stream. Maybe that's why I don't trust my eyes to determine if video is interlaced or not when previewing in DVD2AVI. I never noticed any interlaced content in a DVD2AVI preview.

Then, according to what I observe with the "temporary" rewritable DVD that I just burned above, i.e. if there are artifacts in the final encoded video when watching on my standalone player, I would change settings in CCE.

So, RB, I can't honestly say if in final I worked on real interlaced content or not. I need to check everything from start again, if I want to be sure. But how can I be, if I can not trust Bitrate viewer, and if I can't find any interlaced lines when previewing in DVD2AVI?
I only did about 8 titles manually encoded (I mean choose CCE settings myself), so my real experience with such encodes is not really representative of the average situation met by most of people here.
However, I examined a lot more more than 8 with bitrate viewer, and almost always got "frame type = progressive" and "DCT type = field", when selecting the 1st VOB file of the movie (i.e. VTS_XX_1, not VTS_XX_0).

And I think I certainly messed the color spaces of my encodes, since I always applied the colorspace conversion with interlaced=false: I used the default of Avisynth (i.e. when we do not specify), and I wrongly thought that not specifying this parameter is interlaced=true. Why? Because it was the default advised by someone to EyesOnly for DOCCE4U, and what can be found in the AVS script created by DOCCE4U is that the parameter is not specified. I made wrong assumptions by thinking that the advice (from FMalibu, if I remember well) was followed by EyesOnly.
You know, sometimes, I did tests encoding some video as interlaced, or as progressive, and I could hardly tell if there were noticable differences in quality. Sometimes, I was not able to find artifacs, even on standalone players. Those times, I used to rely on bitrate viewer.

Very final conclusion: I thought I knew what I was doing, and yet, I realize it's not the case, and... I feel lost.

[U977]

RB,

I've read all the old posts once again, and understood that the progressive/interlaced type of frame does not apply to all the frames of a video stream: both types of frames could be found in a complete video stream, as this is a "per frame" (per GOP?) flag.

However, I really wonder what encoder they would have used to handle hybrid content like this.

But this may explain why bitrate viewer does not necessarily give us the same analysis results on different VOB files of the same movie.
And so, bitrate viewer is not wrong, but then is it useful for us?

This also implies that whatever we do, there will be some issues with colours.

Well, if you want to know my deep thoughts, I wonder what's the most important now: the gain of quality when using CCE, or keeping the original structure (and avoid all those problems) when using a transcoder like DVDShrink.

BTW, who has ever noticed a colour problem when conversion to proper colour space (proper usage of ConvertToYUY2) was forgotten? Not me.
Yet, I can hardly live with the idea that I can't find a solution to handle this colour space issue in the best, perfect way :-)
And I can hardly live with the idea that I won't use CCE anymore to backup DVDs.

[SAPSTAR]

Originally posted by Axlemar
This may not directly apply, but everytime I use DvdRemake 1.4 along with DVD ReBuilder (any version), I always get an overflow message and if I use DvdRemake then dvdshrink the chapter points lock up and I have to press next to continue. Does anyone else have these kind of problems with DvdRemake and is there any other software that can remove almost any section from a dvd and can be used with DVD Rebuilder? Sorry that this isn't really a suggestion and keep up the good work on DVD Rebuilder!

FYI : I'm using MenuEdit without any problem ! ....

[SAPSTAR]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That's coming. In fact I've already done a significant amount of the programming to prepare for it. But first I want to have a stable baseline that generates consistently good DVDs without major bugs.

You're close to the stable baseline...I succeeded in Rebuilding my first DVD yesterday without having to modify anything ....just by pressing Transcode. (LOONEY TUNES BACK IN ACTION), it worked like a charm, not yet burned but it's playing perfectly in Ifoedit.

jdobbs, I'm to donate !!!!

[loosenut]

Q:
Does a 1 frame mpv count as a "still" frame?

[Hicky]

First off all....Great app :D ...Testing out my first dvd now...

To emistral:
I struggeled some time with the same issue as you ...Solved it when I discovered that you have to point CCE SP 2.50 in setup to EcICCE.exe instead of cctsp.exe..

Originally posted by emistral
@jdobbs:
Great job
I am just starting to use DVD rebuilder and I followed the instructions in the readme file
I used to backup my dvds with reauthorist, CCE, doitfast4u, etc...
So I removed all of them plus avisynth, etc..
Then i reinstalled what was suggested:
avisynth 2.5.4
dvd decryptor latest version
dv2avi dg version

I am using CCE 2.5 so I also installed EclCCE 1.8

I setup DVD RB as described and then loaded my DVD (after using DVD decryptor).
I am starting with Whale Rider, PAL version
I am in Australia so everything is PAL
I decided to use method 2
I press Prepare. DVD RB processed the VTSses, build the AVS files and ECL files.
I did not checked the content of the ECL files neither the AVS ones.
Anyway when I pressed the Encode button, I had a serie of number - sort of an error code - in the processing gauge.
I can't remember the number
Encoding should last hours but mine lasted 1s.
Obviously it did not do a thing
I tried to press rebuild but I had a warning/error "nothing to do"

Then I tried the one click method
Same problem
The onl difference is that I did not see the error code but I had the "nothing to do" warning

I am suspecting my CCE version because according to ECL manual, I should have an ECL option menu in CCE and I don't have this one

Any idea ?
thanks

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by loosenut
Q:
Does a 1 frame mpv count as a "still" frame? Yes. But that usually isn't where the problem is. The more typical problem that causes the overflow is when you have a group of stills together (and a whole lot of audio).

[loosenut]

I see...
Well, as you may have imagined, I found a still frame that 0.31 had breezed over and I thought that the problem was gone. (sigh)

[huesage]

Just to let you know:

- DVD Rebuilder 0.31
- CCE SP 2.66 Trial
- EclCCE 1.8b

- STOMP record Now MAX
- Toshiba SD-R5112 (Maxell DVD-RW)

- Philips DVD727

This was a perfect error free, glitch free backup of "The Big Lebowski" NTSC 1:1 including extras and both versions (full & wide) on the movie with 5 passes on CCE.

Just thought i would post the sucess!

@jdobbs:

I know you are planning on allowing percentage change for different VTS but will you include stripping functions? say if I want to remove "The making of the big lebowski" which is an extra, or is the purpose of this tool to make 1:1 backups?

thanx again!

[U977]

logfile for K-19:

T01=AC3 0x80 3_2 448 0
T02=AC3 0x81 3_2 448 0
T03=AC3 0x82 2_0 192 0
GOPWarn=0
MPVBytes=4623620882
MPVMegaBytes=4409
AudioTracks=3
D2VFrames=198628
FramePictures=198628
FrameRate=25000
Width=720
Height=576
Bitrate=4655
Progressive=191470
FrameDCT=191482
TFF=198628
ZigZag=191470
PercentFilm=0

As a test, I encoded this one as progressive, with ConvertToYUY2() (thus interlaced=false).

I examined the resulting stream closely, did not find any artifact nor colour problems.

I will look at older work and let you know.

[RB]

Very interesting, about 5 minutes of interlaced video in there. Hmm, is this a multi-PGC VTS? Probably you ran DVD2AVI over all the VTS VOBs but it has maybe two PGCs where one is some interlaced stuff like a trailer? That would explain the difference.

Also, think we are getting a little OT here :) If you want to discuss this further, let's do so in the "old" interlaced encoding thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70225) in the CCE forum. If you want to get even more confused, read http://groups.google.de/groups?hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&frame=right&th=93a377a5d1fdc627&seekm=34541c9e.0%40news1.mid-ga.com#link7 :)

Originally posted by U977
I've read all the old posts once again, and understood that the progressive/interlaced type of frame does not apply to all the frames of a video stream: both types of frames could be found in a complete video stream, as this is a "per frame" (per GOP?) flag.

However, I really wonder what encoder they would have used to handle hybrid content like this.
Yes, an encoder can decide on a per-frame basis whether to encode that particular frame as progressive or interlaced. So if you are really seeing intermixed content like this, then ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) and encoding as interlaced is probably the best advice.

Oh, and here is an example of how incorrectly using ConvertToYUY2() on an interlaced coded streams looks like: http://forum.gleitz.info/attachment.php?attachmentid=66315

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by huesage
Just to let you know:

- DVD Rebuilder 0.31
- CCE SP 2.66 Trial
- EclCCE 1.8b

- STOMP record Now MAX
- Toshiba SD-R5112 (Maxell DVD-RW)

- Philips DVD727

This was a perfect error free, glitch free backup of "The Big Lebowski" NTSC 1:1 including extras and both versions (full & wide) on the movie with 5 passes on CCE.

Just thought i would post the sucess!

@jdobbs:

I know you are planning on allowing percentage change for different VTS but will you include stripping functions? say if I want to remove "The making of the big lebowski" which is an extra, or is the purpose of this tool to make 1:1 backups?

thanx again! I want to add every feature that any of the users find useful. But 1:1 is the first priority.

[Joergen]

I've used TitleSetBlanker (great tool) to remove some extras and animations that reside in their own titlesets (duh) prior to compressing with shrink. Sadly TitleSetBlanker cannot yet remove(play) based by VobID, and this could be a great feature for dvd-rb at some stage.

It could be extended to menus to remove different languages from the menus (some dvds have 500MB+ menus where half or more is unwanted languages) like on most disney dvds R2. Or if not remove, then super-destruction compression that outdoes even the still-picture system of dvdshrink. ;)

[tf]

You could use DVD Stripper for what you want. I use it all the time and it's rather neat :-)

-tf

[Joergen]

I attempted DVD Sripper but it seems to just use ifoedit and I can do the same manually (use menuedit to see which vobid to remove in a menu) but target just the stuff I want instead of the whole disc being recompiled. I'll give it another try some day.

[GizmoDerMokwai]

Hi, I've used DVDRB for the first time and had a problem with it. I used CCE in one click mode, avs and d2v settings as defaults. while "transcoding", cce (2.5) down't pop up and transcode in any way...


Transcoding...
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Phase I, PREPARATION started - Time: 00:58:09
- VTS_06: 1.601.642 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 108.851/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_07: 98.764 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 6.643/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_08: 166.190 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 11.197/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_09: 76.898 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 5.178/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_10: 183.121 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 12.379/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_11: 137.323 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 9.186/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_12: 75.946 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 5.093/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_13: 372.425 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 24.891/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_14: 26.832 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 2.607/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_15: 92.102 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 6.157/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_16: 148.411 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 9.946/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_18: 105.445 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 7.043/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 67,7%
- Overall Bitrate : 4.729Kbs
Phase I, PREPARATION complete - Time: 01:05:36
Phase II ENCODING started. Time: 01:05:36
- Creating M2V for VTS_06 segment 00
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Phase II ENCODING complete. Time: 01:05:38
Phase III, REBUILD started - Time: 01:05:38
- Copying IFO, BUP, and unaltered files...
Remerge aborted.


Failue Notice says, that working directory is empty...

[Hicky]

Originally posted by GizmoDerMokwai
Hi, I've used DVDRB for the first time and had a problem with it. I used CCE in one click mode, avs and d2v settings as defaults. while "transcoding", cce (2.5) down't pop up and transcode in any way...


Transcoding...
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Phase I, PREPARATION started - Time: 00:17:13
- VTS_06: 1.139.261 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 108.851/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_07: 70.313 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 6.643/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_08: 117.725 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 11.197/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_09: 54.711 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 5.178/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_10: 130.509 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 12.379/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_11: 97.556 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 9.186/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_12: 53.693 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 5.093/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_13: 264.818 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 24.891/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_15: 65.169 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 6.157/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_16: 105.378 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- 9.946/0 FRAMES/RFFS
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_18: 89.757 sectors.
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I struggeled some time with the same issue as you ...First, you have to install EcICCE (if you havent allready), run it and "show" it where cctsp.exe is, then setup DVD RB and point CCE SP 2.50 in setup to EcICCE.exe instead of cctsp.exe..

[GizmoDerMokwai]

ok, thx, i'll try it up...

[dancis]

I have a quistion about dvd-rb. I did 2 movies with dvd-rb and everything goes fine until i burn it.

On my samsung dvd player i can't select any subtitle and on a cheap dvd player their is no problem and all subtitels work.

Has this something to do with my samsung dvd player or is it a setting in one of the programs wich i should turn on or off?

I hope someone can help me!!

[Joergen]

You cant select a sub through the menu of the dvd itself? With dvdshrink backups I have a similar problem: If I remove the #1 sub track (usually english) I absolutely cannot choose a sub using the remote DURING the movie.. it just says OFF.. but I can still choose the right sub through the menu of the movie. So I never remove the #1 sub track.

[dancis]

I can select them with my remote , but they just don't work. when i turn a subtitle on with my remote they just don't show.... and when i select them in the menu it is the same.

And on a cheap player everything works fine and there is no problem.

[Joergen]

ok dancis there's something jdobbs can take a look at after he fixes the chapter stutter. Give as much info about the disc, how you compressed it and your player model etc. PM jdobbs if you dont want to say it in public.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
You cant select a sub through the menu of the dvd itself? With dvdshrink backups I have a similar problem: If I remove the #1 sub track (usually english) I absolutely cannot choose a sub using the remote DURING the movie.. it just says OFF.. but I can still choose the right sub through the menu of the movie. So I never remove the #1 sub track. If there is a sub missing it wasn't removed by DVD-RB -- I leave all subs intact. SO anytime a sub problem comes up I wince... most of the time it means someone has been preprocessing with another program before running DVD-RB...

[gvittoz]

Yes...
Sleepy Hollow made with QUgenc now it's running and the result is very good. Thanks very...
BUT... the movie is interlaced and DVDrb find it but the bonus is progressive and DVDrb didn't found...
thats the only one probleme I have too tell you...

Thanks for all and keep going on

[U977]

@RB,

Just a note that I continued the discussion in the old post. Thanks! :-)

Sorry for others about going OT. I hope It also was of interest for you.

[Hicky]

Is this a AMD cpu issue?
I have tried several times to encode my first dvd now..
I have AMD Athlon 1.4GHz installed..

Played around a bit with different settings..
When I uncheck "AudioDub(BlankClip())", it certainly crashes at the end of the vaf pass, when I leave it checked it either freezes or crash later on, maybe the third or fourth AVS it encodes...I use differnt drives as source and working path..
My DVD RB settings:

Mode (checked):
CCE
Verbose Stutus Window
Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates

Options:
D2V Options - Autodetect Film
AVS Options - Convert ToYUY2()
- AudioDub(BlankClip())

Setup:
I have checked the box Path MPEGDEC3DG Add to AVS File


I use:
DVD RB 0.31
Avisynth 2.54
CCE SP 2.67.00.11
EcICCE 1.8b
DVD2AVIdg
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W2K SP4
Athlon 1.4GHz
256 Meg RAM
Abit KT7A Raid

If its an AMD issue, is it a workaround for this?...

Oh I almost forgot. I´m trying to encode Forrst Gump PAL..

[HarryM]

How is best to set DVD-Rebuilder (with CCE 2.66) for reencoding of pure PAL DVDs (non-interlaced streams)?

Is line "ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)" in AVS script necessary at this case?

[Paced]

Originally posted by HarryM
How is best to set DVD-Rebuilder (with CCE 2.66) for reencoding of pure PAL DVDs (non-interlaced streams)?

Is line "ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)" in AVS script necessary at this case?

DVD-ReBuilder will set the appropriate command for you automatically; it will most likely leave out the 'interlaced=true' part for your progressive material. But, it doesn't really matter anyway, I always use ConverToYUY2(interlaced=true) even if my material is progressive.

[RobertR]

Originally posted by Joergen
[B]I've used TitleSetBlanker (great tool) to remove some extras and animations that reside in their own titlesets (duh) prior to compressing with shrink. Sadly TitleSetBlanker cannot yet remove(play) based by VobID, and this could be a great feature for dvd-rb at some stage.
Please do search for VobBlanker by jsoto on DVD related forum and you might just find what you need. I must admit i'm yet to test it but users opinions are great :D

[dancis]

@jdobbs

I leave everthing intact , so i don't remove any subs and i had set everything like you said in the readme.

[Joergen]

Thanks RobertR, I'll try it out soon!

[RonnyJ]

Nice program... just have a couple of requests, if they're possible.

It'd be nice to have a 'pause/resume' button, although I think this has been requested already. Also, would it be possible to have an option to launch CCE at a lower task priority than normal?

Thanks :)

[rayvt]

If you use eclccl (sp?), it'll run CCE at lower priority. You need to set it up first. Open ecl, which opens cce. The go to options/ecl, and click the low priority button. It'll remember it from then on.

[djan]

Originally posted by RonnyJ
Nice program... just have a couple of requests, if they're possible.

It'd be nice to have a 'pause/resume' button, although I think this has been requested already. Also, would it be possible to have an option to launch CCE at a lower task priority than normal?

Thanks :) To all people that want CCE to be launched in low priority, I found something interresting. Just make DVDRB low priority and all CCE launches will be low priority too.

[jdobbs]

I've noted the "pause" request and will implement it.

Also, while I'm typing I apologize to all for not posting a version since the morning of the 5th. I am spending a considerable amount of time going back through the code and revamping some sections to try and eliminate some of the current weaknesses. I should have another version posted in the next couple of days -- and I think (or at least hope) you'll be pleased with the result.

[kbello]

Please jdobbs take all time you need. Thanks for your hard work.

I found a little bug, if in the source don't exist VIDEO_TS.VOB (like as in Matrix Revolutions NTSC) the rebuilding stuck and give error 'no path' or something like that. My solution was create a 0 byte file of VIDEO_TS.VOB, but you need 'get vts sectors' with ifoedit if not you get 9 error in rebuilding.

Regards.