DVD Rebuilder (CCE One-Click Beta v0.46) Comments and Suggestions

[DrChair]

@jdobbs

I don't know if it has been suggested before (no time to read all the topics).

When doing a backup with half D1 for extra's, could you perhaps split up the "HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates" stats into 2 pieces?
One line for half D1 content and one for full D1 content.

This way it's easier to see at what average bitrate the main-movie is done.

[BBWoof]

Originally posted by jdobbs
I think the last 3 significant errors are all in REBUILD and result in #0003, #0004, and '9' subscript out of range. I am working hard to exterminate them. I have important features (BOV and interleaving) waiting in the wings.

Hey, until it works with yours I've still got the big three method.

But taking out the Scenarist step definitely saves a bunch of effort.

Good Luck

BBWoof

[mpennel]

Like I've said before, I *LOVE* this program, and am very excited about what you're putting together for all of us! Many thanks!

One thing I'd love to see added is a PAUSE feature. For instance, I started a One click conversion before I left to run some errands a couple of hours ago. I just came home, and it's a little over 50% done. I'd love to have the ability to PAUSE the encoding process (using CCE 2.50 here) between different .m2v conversions, and continue it later. I wouldn't necessarily need to have it save out a file to load back into Rebuilder later or anyting to conitune (but that would be even better), but I'd love to have the ability to PAUSE rebuilder, and just leave the program open, while I use the computer to do other things like play Far Cry or something, and then when I'm done, I could CONTINUE with the encoding process from where I left off. Does this sound unreasonable/doable?

Thanks again for all of your hard work!

Mark

[Joergen]

Originally posted by mpennel

I'd love to have the ability to PAUSE the encoding process



Just hit ABORT in one-click. Then switch to three-click and hit encode, and it will ask if you want to resume, say YES. The Pause feature is already in there (for the encoding phase). You can even shutdown your PC over the night or the WEEK and continue where you left off. Just remember to re-check the audio channels you want to remove each time (jdobbs has not yet included this fix).

[mpennel]

Originally posted by Joergen
Just hit ABORT in one-click. Then switch to three-click and hit encode, and it will ask if you want to resume, say YES. The Pause feature is already in there (for the encoding phase). You can even shutdown your PC over the night or the WEEK and continue where you left off. Just remember to re-check the audio channels you want to remove each time (jdobbs has not yet included this fix).

Wow! I didn't know that. I guess I've been too squeamish to try to stop the encoding process mid-stream, especially like now when it's something like 58% done! Thanks for the tip! I'll give it a shot!

[dinkel]

Could you add functionality to the program so that we can minimize to systray? With cce being able to to be minimized to the systray, the processing can take place all in the background. just a thought.

[jdobbs]

NEW VERSION OF DVD-REBUILDER (v0.45)

Attached please find a new version of DVD-RB. This version includes some significant fixes -- including the infamous "Error #0004". For all of you QuEnc users -- this version of DVD-RB requires that you upgrade QuEnc to v0.47 or above. You can get it here. (http://nic.dnsalias.com/QuEnc.exe)

Once more I'd like to say "Thank You" to all the beta testers. I've gotten some really helpful feedback from very insightful folks.

Some of the changes/improvements included in this version are listed below.

Note: Do not attempt to do a REBUILD using 0.45 against sources that were prepared using previous versions. It will result in errors.

- IMPORTANT NOTE: Ensure you are using DVD Decrypter version 3.2.1.0 or above. Version 3.2.0.0 (and possibly below) in ISO mode can cause "illegal input stream", "no I-Frame for 51 frames", and "Runtime Error '9'" due to a bug in it's ISO mode processing.

- Corrected Error Code #0004. Rebuilt the NAVPACK decision engine so it handles large streams of non-video data that is sometimes associated with STILLs.

- Modified the 4:3->16:9 output for interlaced sources so fields are separated prior to resizing and weaved back together after resizing. It should make for a more accurate representation of the source material.

- Found a error that could cause DVD-RB to exit with Runtime Error '9' when it encountered an illegal input stream. The error is now properly recognized and DVD-RB gracefully aborts the PREPARE process.

- IF YOU ARE GOING TO USE QUENCODE WITH DVD REBUILDER -- YOU MUST UPGRADE TO QUENCODE V0.47 OR ABOVE. Download it here. (http://nic.dnsalias.com/QuEnc.exe)

- Added an option under QuEnc that enables single-pass encode as an option.

- Modified the source to take advantage of the new QuEnc version Nic has released (v0.47). This version that supports better DVD-RB control over options -- they can now be reset after setting (Trellis, KVCD, and 2-pass).

- Added a "Shutdown at One Click Completion" mode item. The state of this flag is not kept between program runs. It will do a Windows Shutdown at the completion of the next One-Click execution. A 10 Second warning window enables cancellation before shutdown.

- Numerous other minor changes, enhancements, and bug fixes including modified handling of some sound and still images.

The latest version can be found here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75452)

[nwg]

Excellent, I will try it now.

Added an option under QuEnc that enables single-pass encode as an option.

Thank you for very much for this option. :)

[quantum]

Nice work. Should we expect BOV in v0.46? :scared: ;)

[Joergen]

Great job again jdobbs! It's always exciting to refresh the forum and see a new number posted :)

One question though:

- Modified the Half-D1 output for interlaced output so fields are separated prior to resizing

Is this needed for half-d1 since it resizes only horizontally and doesnt affect interlacing (which is also horizontal). Field separation is needed for vertical scaling (LB to anamorphic) or am I missing something? :o

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by quantum
Nice work. Should we expect BOV in v0.46? :scared: ;) Very likely.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
Great job again jdobbs! It's always exciting to refresh the forum and see a new number posted :)

One question though:



Is this needed for half-d1 since it resizes only horizontally and doesnt affect interlacing (which is also horizontal). Field separation is needed for vertical scaling (LB to anamorphic) or am I missing something? :o I stated it wrong and will go back up and fix it... it is 4:3->16:9 conversion that uses this.

[Joergen]

Ok good, thanks for the clarification :cool:

[DDogg]

I'm running that problem 'ItalianJob' tonight. I'll let you know first thing if the '9' is gone on rebuild.

[JDay]

Could you automatically set the -interlaced and -nointerlaced options for QuEnc? It seems to just leave the settings as they were on the last run.

[oddwunn]

Hi jdobbs,

I just started using DVD-RB today (ver 0.44) and every title I have tried came up with the "error #0004" problem (using CCE), so I tried rebuilding my encoded project files tonight with the newly released 0.45 beta - I'm sorry to report that the error still exists. Maybe I have to encode them from scratch again? Please read here for details:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=481764#post481764

Thanks!

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by oddwunn
Hi jdobbs,

I just started using DVD-RB today (ver 0.44) and every title I have tried came up with the "error #0004" problem (using CCE), so I tried rebuilding my encoded project files tonight with the newly released 0.45 beta - I'm sorry to report that the error still exists. Maybe I have to encode them from scratch again? Please read here for details:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=481764#post481764

Thanks! This is confusing to me. I didn't think it was even possible to get a #0004 any more. I'm at the "real job" right now, but will look at this tonight.

[jdobbs]

A note to everyone. You cannot continue jobs started with a previous version (e.g. just do a REBUILD) on ANY job with 0.45 -- there is an additional INF entry that is now inserted during PREPARE that is essential. I'm going to modify the notice for 0.45 to clarify that fact.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by JDay
Could you automatically set the -interlaced and -nointerlaced options for QuEnc? It seems to just leave the settings as they were on the last run. Will do, I almost put it into 0.45, but I wanted to test it first.

[brikin]

JDobbs you are the man.........Did a complete rebuild last night with the DVD giving me the 0004 error and everything worked perfectly. Thanks for all the hard work.

[uiucgrad]

It sounds like I am having the same '9' problem as DDogg only with the the movie 28 Days Later. I have tried every version of DVD-R and none of them have worked yet. Please let me know if there is any information that I can provide to help track down this bug.

I just tried 0.45 with ReJig 5e witn no luck.

[Xitrum]

Hi,
I tried DVD-RB v0.45 last night on 2 DVDs that been giving me troubles.
The hounted mansion, which used to give me error #004 was successfully done without error.
The ABBA music DVD stil gime this error "Runtime Error '6' Overflow'

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by uiucgrad
It sounds like I am having the same '9' problem as DDogg only with the the movie 28 Days Later. I have tried every version of DVD-R and none of them have worked yet. Please let me know if there is any information that I can provide to help track down this bug.

I just tried 0.45 with ReJig 5e witn no luck. Have you tried any other movies?

[PINOBIRD]

jdobbs al my LPCM problems are passed.
For now I have backed up 7 dvds succesful at 100% score.
Thanks for the great work.

[oCe]

Tried v0.45, with CCE v2.67.00.23; did three movies without any problems with this version. All region-2, extra's encoded with Half D1, kept all audio-tracks and used dynamic bitrate adjustment. So far, so good, my compliments! All problems I had with previous versions on standalone (Pioneer) and with still-images seem far gone now. Though, 4th movie I did was Kill Bill vol 1, region 2. Preparation: perfect. Encoding: perfect. Phase III, rebuilding: runtime error '75': path/file-acces error.

EDIT! Forget it... for some strange reason the whole harddisk I was reading the original dvd from stopped functioning. After a reboot it was ok again, weird enough. Rebuilding goes without a hitch now! :)

[unplugged]

I have rebuilt "Random Hearts" with DVD-RB 0.45 (CCE), all went fine but main movie gets marked 4:3 when it's originally 16:9, so output ratio is distorted.
? :(

[zarovka]

Hi,
Thank's for this GREAT program !

I have small req, can you add Anti Noise option in Advanced settings for CCE ?

In ECL:
use_filter=1
filter_val=x

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by unplugged
I have rebuilt "Random Hearts" with DVD-RB 0.45 (CCE), all went fine but main movie gets marked 4:3 when it's originally 16:9, so output ratio is distorted.
? :( That is really odd. Do you mean it is marked as 16:9 in the video stream or in the IFO? Usually if it show up incorrectly on playback it is the IFO (I know you can create 4:3 sources that playback as 16:9 just by modifying the IFO).

The only time that IFO entry is modified is when you choose 16:9 -> 4:3 and that modification is in the other direction??? Anything significantly different about this DVD and any other?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by zarovka
Hi,
Thank's for this GREAT program !

I have small req, can you add Anti Noise option in Advanced settings for CCE ?

In ECL:
use_filter=1
filter_val=x I don't see why not.

[DDogg]

I did 'ItalianJob' again last night without 1/2D1 using 2.67.00.27. It rebuilt ok. With 1/2D1 it throws a '9' on rebuild.

[unplugged]

Originally posted by jdobbs
That is really odd. Do you mean it is marked as 16:9 in the video stream or in the IFO? Usually if it show up incorrectly on playback it is the IFO (I know you can create 4:3 sources that playback as 16:9 just by modifying the IFO).

The only time that IFO entry is modified is when you choose 16:9 -> 4:3 and that modification is in the other direction??? Anything significantly different about this DVD and any other?
I think video is encoded perfectly, it's a matter of bad setting (flag in IFO I think...).
Original video is 16:9 whether is marked in IFO or stream, the DVD-RB result is set as 4:3. I haven't checked where is set, but PowerDVD displays correcly the original and badly the rebuilt version.
That option you meant isn't touched. (default)

[wmansir]

jdobbs,

I was just updating the settings guide and I had a quick question about the new "shutdown after 1-click" option.

The readme states the shutdown will occur "after the next 1-click execution". 1. How does this effect Batch mode? does it wait for all jobs to finish? and 2. I assume it only shuts down on a successful completion, right?

[lab-one]

@jdobbs

Put this request at the bottom of your mounting stack of things to do...

Would it be possible or reasonable to add a mouse-over type of status message to the dvd-rb task bar button? I personally would find this handy when I have the app minimized.

Your consideration is appreciated.

lab-one

edit: by status I mean, current progress eg. VTS_06 - 63% - Prepare (or something to that effect). During the encode process it would be more basic since CCE displays this information. Overall - 23% - Encode. Etcetera.

[SAPSTAR]

Originally posted by DDogg
I did 'ItalianJob' again last night without 1/2D1 using 2.67.00.27. It rebuilt ok. With 1/2D1 it throws a '9' on rebuild.

I did some experiments, and I noticed there are errors when the avg bitrate of a cell fall under 1000 bps, with the half space option it's frequent, but it can also happen without the option.

For example, on Saving Private Ryan, I had the '9' on rebuild (even without 1/2D1), I checked and the cell where there was an error was 983 bps, I changed the ECL file to 1500 bps....and it worked !!!

[Paced]

@jdobbs

Is it possible to add a 16:9 - 4:3 conversion option? Whenever I use half D1 on a 16:9 stream, one of my standalones does not like it at all - it looks like a 'pixelated column' is running down the middle of the screen, and anything in that column is unwatchable, whilst everything on the left/right of that column is fine. That probably doesn't make sense :)

[sofa_2004au]

Dear DVD Rebuilder

Would you please include an option for

* CCE Constant Bitrate encoding

rather than only using Variable bitrate

Regards Sofa

[jesinka]

DVDremake is great soft.Your soft is no.1 !! He is 100000x better than all.GREAT JOB .You can try writte in your DVD RB this ? click on right button mouse in extras and use button hide all block? its function built in DVDReMaKe.Its great future in DVD RB.try it pls....You can use too preview button on DVD RB ? thx jdobbs ----- you are big man !!

[jesinka]

:-)

[DDogg]

Originally posted by SAPSTAR
For example, on Saving Private Ryan, I had the '9' on rebuild (even without 1/2D1), I checked and the cell where there was an error was 983 bps, I changed the ECL file to 1500 bps....and it worked !!! I'll try to check this tonight on IJob. We are also testing the final RC of the new D2S/D so its hard to get enough time, but will try my best to verify your observations. Thanks.

[robot1]

@SAPSTAR and DDog
I've done a backup with half D1-half space, with no problem (and there were many cells with bitrate under 900).
Anyway, if I have an error 9 on rebuild I'll try to change the bitrate.

[tf]

I tried backing up Spiderman, half d1, half space too. When CCE 2.50 were 91% done, it froze on a sub 900kbit part. First freeze I've ever had in CCE.

This was with DVD Rebuilder 0.45.

-tf

[CiViC]

just out of curiosity..is multiangle/interleaved cell support gonna be thrown in any time soon?

[Le_Zouave]

Originally posted by jesinka
DVDremake is great soft.Your soft is no.1 !! He is 100000x better than all.GREAT JOB .You can try writte in your DVD RB this ? click on right button mouse in extras and use button hide all block? its function built in DVDReMaKe.Its great future in DVD RB.try it pls....You can use too preview button on DVD RB ? thx jdobbs ----- you are big man !!

I think it's better to leave all the "hidding" process to DVDremake, personnaly before using DVD-RB I use DVDremake to hide unwanted part of a DVD and edit the menu according to it. For example I hide all the warning screen and unneeded bonuses then edit the menu and finaly I edit the menu to hide the button in audio menu that will be stripped with DVD-RB, the combination of DVD-RB and DVDremake is great.

There is just one thing that anoy me in DVD-RB is that when I use half/d1 half bitrate for bonuses I always get a result around 4.20 Gb and without this option around 4.31 Gb. I use CCE SP and as you know, bitrate control with it is really acurate so it may need some optimisation to get a good 4.35 Gb.
Finaly it's just my opinion but I think that encoding the entire movie give better result than encoding by chapter but I already red that it's because of CCE basic that don't give I-Frame between chapter. And I only experienced it with DVD2DVD-R but using a minimum bitrate of 0 and a max bitrate of 9800 minus all the audio and sub-picture stream give a great result as this take advantage of simple picture as credit, for example on 2001 a space odysey there is a lot of black screen and the bitrate go as low as 0.3 MB and it help for more complex scene.

Anyway this is the only soft that alow to use CCE SP and keep the menu. Thanks for this awesome soft.

[RobertR]

Originally posted by Le_Zouave
There is just one thing that anoy me in DVD-RB is that when I use half/d1 half bitrate for bonuses I always get a result around 4.20 Gb and without this option around 4.31 Gb. I use CCE SP and as you know, bitrate control with it is really acurate so it may need some optimisation to get a good 4.35 Gb.
If it happens all the time than maybe You should try fiddling with CCETargetSectors? This might get You closer to 4.35GB target.
Anyway this is the only soft that alow to use CCE SP and keep the menu. Thanks for this awesome soft.
Well. There is also Big3 :D

[Le_Zouave]

Originally posted by RobertR
If it happens all the time than maybe You should try fiddling with CCETargetSectors? This might get You closer to 4.35GB target.

Well. There is also Big3 :D

Yeah I'll try modify it in the ini. But for Big 3 it's not A soft, it's 3 frontend and event if it's less complicated than doing without them, it's way more complicated than DVD-RB. Yeah I admit it, I'm too stupid for the big 3 method.

[jesinka]

i have same problem with DVD size after usin CCE with DVD RB.My all dvd have 4.21 gb. :(((

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by CiViC
just out of curiosity..is multiangle/interleaved cell support gonna be thrown in any time soon? Yeah. Unfortunately my full-time job has kept me fully employed (plus some) all this week and I haven't had much time to work on this. Given the response I've had to donations so far -- I don't think I'll be giving it up any time soon;) I used my vacation last week to kill a lot of bugs -- so in the meantime nights and weekends are all I have to work with, and I haven't had a lot of nights this week.

[Joergen]

Keep up the great work 'dobbsy! ;)

Suggestion: I was preparing a project and it was already half through when I thought "hmm did I uncheck that option" and I aborted it to see that all was okay (wasted some time cause I'm dumb).

Perhaps you could post some of the features that are enabled in the status screen when you hit rebuild, like:

---------------
-Remove DTS enabled
-Dynamic allocation enabled
-Removed GER, FRA, SPA audio
---------------
Phase I, PREPARATION started at 00:00:00
....

That way you can just scroll up and down to see what is going on, while Preparation is in progress.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Joergen
Keep up the great work 'dobbsy! ;)

Suggestion: I was preparing a project and it was already half through when I thought "hmm did I uncheck that option" and I aborted it to see that all was okay (wasted some time cause I'm dumb).

Perhaps you could post some of the features that are enabled in the status screen when you hit rebuild, like:

---------------
-Remove DTS enabled
-Dynamic allocation enabled
-Removed GER, FRA, SPA audio
---------------
Phase I, PREPARATION started at 00:00:00
....

That way you can just scroll up and down to see what is going on, while Preparation is in progress. That's a good idea! I've run into that myself.

[SAPSTAR]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Yeah. Unfortunately my full-time job has kept me fully employed (plus some) all this week and I haven't had much time to work on this. Given the response I've had to donations so far -- I don't think I'll be giving it up any time soon;) I used my vacation last week to kill a lot of bugs -- so in the meantime nights and weekends are all I have to work with, and I haven't had a lot of nights this week.

He guys, those who haven't donate....just press the button, I saw the number of downloads for DVD-RB, by now jdobbs should be a richguy !!!

Don't be dumb, and donate !