DVD Rebuilder (CCE One-Click Beta v0.46) Comments and Suggestions

[kbello]

great job jdobbs, finally the stutter issues gone with 0.42 :D

[quantum]

Originally posted by Joergen
To titlesetblankers defence, I've used it on at least 15 discs that have been played on about 6 different players (Pioneer, Panasonic, Sony, Euroline) without problems :)

Vobblanker though can blank items inside a VOB too, so its more flexible. I don't see why a tmapti issue would matter on a blanked title. Personally I've found titlesetblanker rock solid on everything I've used, and I've used it a lot.

[Wimpy]

Hi,

Thanks to those of you who suggested VobBlanker and TitleSetBlanker, I can see that I will be making use of both to remove unwanted clutter from my ex-rental DVDs in order to boost what DVD-RB and QuEnc can do for me :-)

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by kbello
great job jdobbs, finally the stutter issues gone with 0.42 :D ;) On to other issues.

[jhmac]

I really hate to double post but I should have posted it here instead of new thread...

Convert LB 4:3 to 6:9
DVD-RB v.041
CCE Basic v2.67.01.19
Convert From LB 4:3 to 6:9


I tried this on "The Hunt For Red October" and although the movie did not need to be re-encoded it worked fine except the audio starts out fine but slowly as the movie progresses the audio gets out of sync the audio syncs up at each chapter point, but slowly gets out of sync again...

Thanks for all your hard work, and for an awesome program...

[Xitrum]

Hi Jdobbs,
If it's not too hard, could you please add in an option to have DVD-RB shutdown the computer when it completed all the tasks.

I often set DVD-RB running before I go to bed or work, it would be very useful if DVD-RB can shutdown my computer when it finished.

Thanks for the great tool.

[gopalkk]

DVD-RB gave me buffer overflow error at the end of
creating VOB files.

I tried to burn them in Nero 6 which complained
that "File size is not a multiple of logical block size (2KB)"
and says DVD-Video may not be playable, want to continue?

It seems to work well in WinDVD.

DVD-Shrink is unable to read these VOB files.

Is there a way to fix these files ?

TIA

[gopalkk]

I feel we should request Jdobbs to prioritize
making the tool accurate first than making
too many requests on making it all in one or
easy one click tool.

[robw]

Originally posted by Xitrum
Hi Jdobbs,
If it's not too hard, could you please add in an option to have DVD-RB shutdown the computer when it completed all the tasks.

I often set DVD-RB running before I go to bed or work, it would be very useful if DVD-RB can shutdown my computer when it finished.

Thanks for the great tool.

Why not use WINOFF? Its free and works like a champ. It monitors your CPU usage and when its idle for a user selected amount of time it can do a shutdown.

http://www.ampsoft.net/index.php?section=english/Utilities.php

[Xitrum]

Why not use WINOFF? Its free and works like a champ. It monitors your CPU usage and when its idle for a user selected amount of time it can do a shutdown.

Thanks for the info, I'll try it out tonight. :D

[dave88]

Sweet! no more 0004 error, on a disk that uses alot of stills. I just tried again with 042 and it worked great, you may have had it fixed in 041 (I missed that one) Nice Work jdobbs

Thanks, I guess it's about time to donate :D

[RB]

Sorry to bump this up, but I'd really like to know why it created so many segments... FYI, the entire VTS is interlaced frame pictures, nothing special.
Originally posted by RB
jdobbs, using v0.41 and considering the following VTS
Title Set (Movie) attributes:
Video: MPEG-2 720x576 (PAL) (PAL 625/50) (4:3) (not specified perm.display)
Audio 1: Not Specified (Dolby AC-3) 2ch 48Kbps DRC (ID: 0x80)

PGC_1 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 1] [00:01:41.20 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 1)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 1/ 1] : time: 00:01:41.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:41.10] [Frames: 2535]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 1/ 2] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:01:41.20] [Frames: 2545]

PGC_2 (program chain): [Title(TTN): 2] [00:02:19.23 / 25 fps] (Programs: 2) (Cells: 2) (uses VOB-IDs: 2)
[Ch 01] [Pg 01] [Cell 01] [V/C Id: 2/ 1] : time: 00:02:19.13 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:02:19.13] [Frames: 3488]
[Ch 02] [Pg 02] [Cell 02] [V/C Id: 2/ 2] : time: 00:00:00.10 / 25 fps [Pos: 00:02:19.23] [Frames: 3498]
what could cause DVD-RB to split this into 39 segments? The backup of this DVD worked just fine, there were no issues during the rebuild stage. Just wondering. Below is the D2V DVD-RB created for this VTS. I thought maybe you treated the single I-frames there as stills, but you do this only for the "real stills" here (V/C 1/2 and 2/2) and most AVS scripts are like this#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("E:\DVD2DVD-R\PROJECTS\MONDMANN\REBUILDER\D2VAVS\V04.D2V")
trim(0,13)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("E:\DVD2DVD-R\PROJECTS\MONDMANN\REBUILDER\D2VAVS\V04.D2V")
trim(14,26)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true)

#------------------
# AVS File Created by DVD Rebuilder
# VOBID:01, CELLID:01
#------------------
mpeg2source("E:\DVD2DVD-R\PROJECTS\MONDMANN\REBUILDER\D2VAVS\V04.D2V")
trim(27,195)
ConvertToYUY2(interlaced=true) Here are the first few lines from the D2V:DVD2AVIProjectFile
1
52 E:\DVD2DVD-R\PROJECTS\MONDMANN\VIDEO_TS\VTS_04_1.VOB

Stream_Type=1,0,0
iDCT_Algorithm=2
YUVRGB_Scale=1
Luminance=128,0
Picture_Size=0,0,0,0,0,0
Field_Operation=0
Frame_Rate=25000
Location=0,0,0,12347

7 0 0 2 2 2 2
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7 0 1550 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 162C 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
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7 0 1AF6 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
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7 0 1DFC 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
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7 0 213E 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
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7 0 2541 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
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7 0 2697 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
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7 0 2838 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 28ED 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
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7 0 2A81 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2B3F 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2C1F 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2CBA 2 2 2
7 0 2CEA 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2DAC 2
7 0 2DE1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2E90 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 2F41 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 300B 2
7 0 303F 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 30DA 2
7 0 310E 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 319E 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 3267 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 332A 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 33F6 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 34C2 2
7 0 34EB 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 3596 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 365A 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 3722 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 37E1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 38B7 2
7 0 38D1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 3981 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 3A3B 2
7 0 3A7E 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 3B0C 2
7 0 3B39 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 3BD1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 3CAF 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 3D43 2 2 2
7 0 3D7B 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 3E3A 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 3ED6 2 2 2
7 0 3F07 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 3FBF 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
7 0 4088 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
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7 0 47CB 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2
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7 0 4933 2

[Djuby]

Great job jdobbs,

I made a backup with 0.42 and the result was flawless, no stutter - just perfect. I was wandering, are you using the Robshot method for CCE encoding? And one more thing, I want to make a donation, how can I do that?

Djuby

[saltrats]

Great job!!!

I don't know if anyone has suggested this, but I'd love to see a "shutdown computer when finished" option when using the 1-click method. I know that I'm not the only one who starts DVDRebuilder before I leave for work, or before I go to bed...

I'm Getting ready to try v0.42. I have had the random video glitches, not just at chapter points, and LOTS OF TROUBLE with video glitches, jumping, jittery video, and sound dropouts with Spielbergs TAKEN series (which is a little bit of everything- progressive, interlaced, tff, bff...) Check these DVD's out... I have been trying to back up these dvd's since v0.18, and have seen measured improvement.. keep up the good work..

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Djuby
Great job jdobbs,

I made a backup with 0.42 and the result was flawless, no stutter - just perfect. I was wandering, are you using the Robshot method for CCE encoding? And one more thing, I want to make a donation, how can I do that?

Djuby Open the program, go to the "About" dialog and push the "DONATE" button.... Thanks for asking!

[jdobbs]

@RB,

From looking at the D2V it appears there are a lot of places that were interpreted as stills because an I-FRAME is followed immediately by another I-FRAME (the lines with a single item on it). I guess the question is why the AVS files don't reflect that...

[SAPSTAR]

Originally posted by Joergen
jdobbs: Here's a wild and fancy suggestion :D

Since you're encoding in segments.. would it be possible to distribute the encoding of separate segments over the LAN. All I think you'd need is for the source path to be accessible to the LAN puters (easy) and a "reserve" and "completed" function for the batch file where the "client" computers would mark the section they're doing as reserved and then complete (so other cliends would know to skip to the next one).

If you'd really stretch it you could have the server computer create a "dvd-rb droplet" executable and stream the data to the clients, the clients would then only need the same version of CCE and avisynth installed but not need to setup the source path or work path.. or something. :cool:

Just think.. harnessing a few friends' computers in the dorm or computer lab: 15 minute npass CCE DVD-RB copy!

I had the same idea, and there is an "easy" way to do it. run the prepare on several boxes. Then edit the ENCODER.ECL file, remove some cells on one box, leave them on the other one....then run the encode on both boxes. Then copy the m2v from one to another and then rebuild.....

It works !!!!

I'm thinking about a small program to do the splitting tasks.....Maybe trough shared disks...

[Wimpy]

Hi,

As a result of a question I asked earlier in this thread I got directed to VobBlanker which is an excellent tool for removing content from VTS and PGC. The source is also available, any chance it could be added as a integral feature so that it woud,be possible to rebuild and 'strip' during the Rebuild phase instead of having to create a blanked VIDEO_TS before pumping it into DVD-RB?

Get the current version and source from...

http://www.iespana.es/jsoto/

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by SAPSTAR
I had the same idea, and there is an "easy" way to do it. run the prepare on several boxes. Then edit the ENCODER.ECL file, remove some cells on one box, leave them on the other one....then run the encode on both boxes. Then copy the m2v from one to another and then rebuild.....

It works !!!!

I'm thinking about a small program to do the splitting tasks.....Maybe trough shared disks... One of the reasons I broke things out, made them available in the D2VAVS directory, and gave the 3 step option was to encourage creative thinking just like this!!!

[Fr4nz]

Jdobbs I have one question: if one movie is forced to show a certain subtitle stream, will DVD-RB keep this property?

For example if I have a movie with Japanese talking, I'll see subtitles which translate in english what the man is saying because the DVD will play them by default.

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
Jdobbs I have one question: if one movie is forced to show a certain subtitle stream, will DVD-RB keep this property? Yes.

[Fr4nz]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Yes.

Ok tnx. Because I tried to back up before Kill Bill Vol.I (I reauthored the DVD with DVD-Shrink, in order to keep only the main movie and then i started DVD-RB) and when I play back the backup on my standalone player it doesn't show up any subtitle. Maybe it's a DVD-Shrink fault. I'll try to force via DVD-Shrink the displaying of the italian subtitle stream and we'll see what happens.

[valnar]

jdobbs,
I didn't read this whole thread, so forgive me if this has been asked for previously.

Can you make the program specify the size of the outputted DVD instead of defaulting to 4.36Gb?

Since DVD Rebuilder works best with a whole DVD without anything removed (as you specified), it may be best to remove extras after the processing instead of before. That would mean transcoding it to slightly more than 4.36Gb to accomodate what you plan to remove later.

Just my 2 cents. Thanks for a great product!

-Robert

[berndy2001]

just search for "TargetSectors=" in this thread, you'll find your solution...

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by valnar
jdobbs,
I didn't read this whole thread, so forgive me if this has been asked for previously.

Can you make the program specify the size of the outputted DVD instead of defaulting to 4.36Gb?

Since DVD Rebuilder works best with a whole DVD without anything removed (as you specified), it may be best to remove extras after the processing instead of before. That would mean transcoding it to slightly more than 4.36Gb to accomodate what you plan to remove later.

Just my 2 cents. Thanks for a great product!

-Robert I've had several PM discussion with DDogg on this subject. What I probably eventually will do is allow the advanced user to input a minimum acceptable Q level they will accept for their main movie... DVD-RB will then do a sampled analysis and allocate what is necessary to meet that Q. It will probably also have a minimum Q acceptable on extras (to keep it from being totally useless). But that's down the road a bit.

[robw]

Originally posted by valnar
Since DVD Rebuilder works best with a whole DVD without anything removed (as you specified), it may be best to remove extras after the processing instead of before. That would mean transcoding it to slightly more than 4.36Gb to accomodate what you plan to remove later.

While I certainly understand jdobbs wish that bugs be reported for "original" DVDs only in order to minimize/eliminate issues associated with pre-processed files, I have found the program completely compatible with DVDs that have been preprocessed. So the real issue is one of beta testing not "works best with" in my opinion. I have routinely, and in nearly every case, stripped extras, not needed languages, short studio clips, etc. prior to running DVD-RB. No problems other than the same exact issue that would occur without preprocessing.

[Fr4nz]

Robw I have one question: if you *reauthor* a DVD with DVD-Shrink, will it keep the default stream forced or you manually have to force it?

[DDogg]

jdobbs, please give me a minute of your time to reply to what I think is a simple question.

1> How much work is it for you to half the average bitrate you have calculated and then apply that halved value to the 1/2D1 choices (non-main) and give that additional ABR to the main movie?

More elegant solutions have been discussed, but they are going to take a lot of your time.

I wonder if implementing this quickly would not provide a quick down and dirty solution for many, at least temporarily? Later, if you hang in with this project, you could go for a more robust and elegant solution.

[edited for clarity]

[robw]

Originally posted by Fr4nz
Robw I have one question: if you *reauthor* a DVD with DVD-Shrink, will it keep the default stream forced or you manually have to force it?

I generally do no reauthor using DVDShrink. I use it to rip the DVD to my HD using the full backup. Typically, I remove any languages I'm not interested in. Sometimes I shrink very large menus. Recall, that DVD-RB does not touch menus, so if you use DVDShrink on them, they won't be further compressed when DVD-RB runs. Once the DVD is ripped, I then use DVDReMake to take out anything I don't want ... generally I 'HIDE' things like the audio selection menu, often the extras, etc. I also 'HIDE' the buttons on menus that no longer apply.

Then, if the DVD files are still > 4488MB, I let DVD-RB do its thing.

[P3gasus]

@quantum and Joergen

Read this thread form this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71819&postid=462473#post462473) post on if you are interested in titlesetblanker issues.

@jdobbs Sorry for the interference.

@all

Bye

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by DDogg
jdobbs, please give me a minute of your time to reply to what I think is a simple question.

1> How much work is it for you to half the average bitrate you have calculated and then apply that halved value to the 1/2D1 choices (non-main) and give that additional ABR to the main movie?

More elegant solutions have been discussed, but they are going to take a lot of your time.

I wonder if implementing this quickly would not provide a quick down and dirty solution for many, at least temporarily? Later, if you hang in with this project, you could go for a more robust and elegant solution.

[edited for clarity] That's something I could probably do fairly easily. But it would have to be limited to entire VTSs -- in other words it wouldn't apply to extras that are included in a VTS with the movie. I don't think that's nearly as common as extras in separate VTSs.

[dvdRENEGADE]

jdobbs,
1/2 D1 is great. Will you add 1/4 D1 as well?
dvdRENEGADE

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by P3gasus
@quantum and Joergen

Read this thread form this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71819&postid=462473#post462473) post on if you are interested in titlesetblanker issues.

@jdobbs Sorry for the interference.

@all

Bye Interference???

[P3gasus]

Originally posted by jdobbs
Interference???

Sorry: maybe intermission is better :)

Bye

[DDogg]

Originally posted by Jdobbs
That's something I could probably do fairly easily. But it would have to be limited to entire VTSs -- in other words it wouldn't apply to extras that are included in a VTS with the movie. I don't think that's nearly as common as extras in separate VTSs. I don't think the few that are not separate would be a big deal to worry about. As you say, they seem to be rare. This, as a quick interim solution would take care of a large majority of people's needs, and move it much closer to the advanced manual methods(IMO).

[quantum]

Originally posted by DDogg
1> How much work is it for you to half the average bitrate you have calculated and then apply that halved value to the 1/2D1 choices (non- Why limit this to half-d1? I'd rather take the half bitrate and leave the video structure alone.

[Joergen]

Originally posted by quantum
Why limit this to half-d1? I'd rather take the half bitrate and leave the video structure alone.

I second that :) /or test and see whats good.

[slafe]

Remap Audio?

First i have to say...very nice program...i have done many movies with cce...the 3 big method.with your program it's very simple to do a real good movie...nice work and keep it up.

I have a question about audio remap

if you have 4 audio track and you remove 3 of then...and if you take away audio stream 0x80 and leave stream 0x81 and remove the other two. when the movie is done "rebuild" and you play it,it has no sound to play before it go to 0x80 stream.

It very simple to remap this audio to play right..I have done this with ifoedit and put up the audiostream 0x81 to 0x80 stream and get rid of the other numbers..and in the VTSI_MAT rename to right name on the audiostream.

can it`s be done in dvd-rb??

[DDogg]

Originally posted by quantum
Why limit this to half-d1? I'd rather take the half bitrate and leave the video structure alone.I can't imagine why you would want to do that. The halved bitrate applied to a 1/2D1 would only suffer slightly from the degradation of the stretch. In effect it would look near identical to how it would if normally encoded in DVD-RB. Why would you want to just half the bitrate and leave it full frame? That would look like crap most of the time, IMO.

[quantum]

Originally posted by DDogg
I can't imagine why you would want to do that. The halved bitrate applied to a 1/2D1 would only suffer slightly from the degradation of the stretch. In effect it would look near identical to how it would if normally encoded in DVD-RB. Why would you want to just half the bitrate and leave it full frame? That would look like crap most of the time, IMO. I don't get this. Near identical to the original? To me, half-d1 looks like an obviously softened version of the original. Certainly nothing that could be considered nearly identical. By retaining the resolution, you have a chance of near original sharpness on low motion scenes. And you can retain subtitles.

[Joergen]

Depends on the extras of course. Especially the PAL region sometimes (or often) gets blurry ntsc-converted betamax-tape extras that wont suffer much from a lesser horisontal resolution.

And extras are pretty one-time stuff, so a little blur prolly doesnt matter much. I'd like to have the lower bitrate option with both possibilities (full and half-d1) though. :)

[Wimpy]

Originally posted by DDogg
I can't imagine why you would want to do that. The halved bitrate applied to a 1/2D1 would only suffer slightly from the degradation of the stretch. In effect it would look near identical to how it would if normally encoded in DVD-RB. Why would you want to just half the bitrate and leave it full frame? That would look like crap most of the time, IMO.

I agree with DDogg, halving the bitrate for a full frame (full movie) source would look pretty poor. Half bitrate for half D1, does offer a really nice tradeoff for extras though and I would certainly take advantage of this feature if it were made available.

[DDogg]

quantum, note I said, "In effect it would look near identical to how it would if normally encoded in DVD-RB". I never said anything about "the original". Of course it will be 'soft', but to me that is much more desirable than massively pixelated.

[gopalkk]

"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort."

While copying (not transcoded VTS) last VTS VTS_03
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1

This is 3rd dvd title it happened.

Any Ideas?

[Joergen]

Originally posted by gopalkk
VTS VTS_03
This is 3rd dvd title it happened.


If thats the last VTS and is small, you can do it through DVDShrink and copy that over to the dvd-rb output (rebuilt) dir.

Though three in a row signals that you have something wrong in the settings.

[djan]

Originally posted by gopalkk
"DVD Rebuilder experienced a buffer overflow. Error #0004. Process must abort."

While copying (not transcoded VTS) last VTS VTS_03
- Rebuilding segment 0 VOBID:1 CELLID:1

This is 3rd dvd title it happened.

Any Ideas? Man, this is the "Comments and Suggestions" thread. Post in the right thread please. We have enough difficulties to follow all.

[onesoul]

Originally posted by DDogg
I can't imagine why you would want to do that. The halved bitrate applied to a 1/2D1 would only suffer slightly from the degradation of the stretch. In effect it would look near identical to how it would if normally encoded in DVD-RB. Why would you want to just half the bitrate and leave it full frame? That would look like crap most of the time, IMO. How about the choice, for example, between 1/2(=0.5), 3/5(=0.6), 3/4(=0.75) and 4/5(=0.8) of the calculated bitrate?

[jdobbs]

Originally posted by onesoul
How about the choice, for example, between 1/2(=0.5), 3/5(=0.6), 3/4(=0.75) and 4/5(=0.8) of the calculated bitrate? We're getting way too complicated. Make a program that you need a PhD to understand, and even PhDs will avoid it.

[robw]

Einstein once said

"make it as simple as possible but not simpler"

[DMagic1]

Originally posted by jdobbs
We're getting way too complicated. Make a program that you need a PhD to understand, and even PhDs will avoid it.

Hehe, do you have a book of those?