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robot1
27th March 2004, 23:21
Now testing with rejig... Really nice speed: the encoding seems disk limited. Somebody already asked for two working paths, for systems with 2 (or more) HardDisks.
Could you launch rejig minimized?
Thanks.

flaystus
28th March 2004, 01:54
Well I need to finish reading through this thread, about half done right now I think. But how about from scratch (aka freshly setup machine with no other programs installed) setup instructions. My one attempt using the info from a few days ofter it came out causes it to just do nothing when I hit encode.

djan
28th March 2004, 06:07
Originally posted by wmansir

2.) If/When Jdobbs implements bitrate scaling according to the original cell's bitrate, that won't be much of an issue. Can each cell have a different bitrate ? I didn't know. I thought it was the same bitrate for the entire movie.

djan
28th March 2004, 06:10
Originally posted by StifflerStealth
FYI, DVD-RB has a current score of 9.5 at dvdrhelp.com (Click here (http://www.dvdrhelp.com/tools.php?tool=565#comments)). More ppl need to vote and comment.:D Maybe we can make that score higher.

Stiff Need to be registered. :angry:

jdobbs
28th March 2004, 10:55
Originally posted by djan
Can each cell have a different bitrate ? I didn't know. I thought it was the same bitrate for the entire movie. Yes each cell can be encoded at a different average bitrate.

jdobbs
28th March 2004, 12:36
INSTALLATION AND USAGE INSTRUCTIONS

Ok. I've added the text below to the Readme.txt file that is included with every copy of DVD-RB. Some of it is unneeded for we who are regular DOOM9ers but -- the text is there anyway. I'm hoping that this information will alleviate some of the configuration related problems that some are experiencing with DVD-RB:

INSTALLATION:

Note: Where and how you load software is, of course, your business. I've found, however, that creating a directory under "C:\Program Files" called "DVD-RIP" is a good way to organize my ripping related software. Just specify that directory as the installation path for software mentioned below.

1. Download and install AVISYNTH. It is available at www.doom9.org -- at that site click on "Download" on the left navigation bar. AVISYNTH is available under "Support Utils" -- at the time of this writing the most current version was v2.54 which has been tested and is completely compatible with DVD-RB.

2. From the same link, download and install DVD Decrypter. Follow the instructions. At the time of this writing the current version was 3.2.1.0 -- and it has been tested and works great with DVD-RB.

3. Next, you must have a copy of MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL installed on your computer. At the Doom9 site, download DVD2AVI dg. It (at this writing) is contained in a ZIP file DECODEFIX100.ZIP. Open that zip and within you will find a file called MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL. Copy that file into a directory called "PlugIns" under the AVISYNTH directory (created in step 1). Putting it there could save you lots of possible headaches later!

4. There -- that's all the support software needed -- but you need one more thing. You have to have (your choice) an encoder. My top recommendation is Cinemacraft Encoder Basic for the best quality output imaginable. This software is available at a cost of $59 from:

http://www.cinemacraft.com/eng/ccebasic.html

But -- that isn't the only choice! To keep the cost at zero, DVD-RB supports two additional software packages. Both were developed by Nic, based upon publicly available sources. They are ReJig and QuEnc. As they are under development you will find them at the two links listed below, but expect them to show under the DOOM9 download page reasonably soon.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=72827
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66777

5. Last, but not least, install DVD-RB. All you need to do is create a directory somewhere (as I mentioned earlier, possibly in C:\Program Files\DVD-RIP) and copy Rebuilder.exe into that folder. You may also want to create a shortcut on your desktop.

USAGE:

Before starting: Click on "Options" on the menu bar and then "Setup." Make sure you find the path of the software you will be using. You can also set the default for audio streams you like to keep/delete in you processing. You may also want to take the opportunity to go through the available menus and familiarize yourself with the program.

Enought small talk, here's how it works:

1. First, use DVD-Decrypter to rip the entire DVD, not just the movie to your hard drive. Use file mode and take note of the output directory. You will need it for DVD-RB.

2. After you've ripped the DVD run DVD-RB. Use the browse button to point the "Source Path" to the directory you've just ripped into.

3. Select a working directory. It can be anywhere -- but make sure there is plenty of room for processing. The working directory will need as much as twice the space of the Ripped DVD (depending upon the mode -- discussed later). The working directory will be overwritten when processing occurs, so be careful.

------------------ METHOD ONE ---------------

4. If you are using ReJig, QuEnc or CCE Version 2.66 or above, you can select "One Click" under the "Options Menu" -- by doing so all actions will occur automatically with the push of one "Transcode" button. If you are using CCE 2.50 or a Trial Version you may want to consider using ECLCCE available at:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=46664

In order to work in "One Click" mode with CCE, DVD-RB requires a version of CCE that supports command line options. ECLCCE includes a capability to add command line options to Trial and older (v2.50) versions.

5. As actions are performed you will see status updates in the DVD-RB Status box. Please note that CCE can take some time to encode -- so you may want to come back later. I like to let movies run overnight. Timing depends upon a lot of parameters including processor speed and number of passes.

6. When completed -- simply use any burning package (such as B's Recorder Gold, RecordNow Max, or Nero) -- there is usually a package provided with your DVD Burner. You must write two directories (AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS), that will exist in the "Working Path" you specified in step 3.

------------------ METHOD TWO ---------------

For those who like to keep control, you can use the "Three Click" method that is the default. It let's you hold the keys to all actvities.

4. Press the "Prepare" button (about 4-5 minutes). Heres what happens:

-- All the VTSs in the source directory are scanned and .D2V files are created -- all automatically
-- AVS files are also created automatically all in \D2VAVS under the "Working Path"
-- All .AVS files represent the VTSs divided into "segments" -- each segment typically represents an individual cell (VOBID/CELLID). It can also represent portions of a cell (e.g. in interleaving)
-- All parameters are optimally calculated (including bitrate) and are stored in an .ECL (CCE Project File)

5. When preparation is complete you can either open the ECL file with CCE and modify as you see fit, or press the "Encode" button. Remember, though, that command-line options must be supported for this to work. I've tested the program extensively with Cinema Craft Encoder Basic. This can take anywhere from two-four hours depending upon your processor, hard drive, and the size of the DVD.

6. After encoding is completed, you get to see where DVD-RB's real magic comes in. Push the "Rebuild" button and the video you've just created is merged and multiplexed with the original audio and subtitle streams. A new VIDEO_TS directory is created in the "Working Path".

7. Burn that baby.

Oldeman
28th March 2004, 20:36
When using the one button method....
Can you either have a config option to automatically clear the outyput directory without prompting? OR
ask when the button is pressed, don't wait until rebuild phase to prompt for clearing output directory..

This kind of spoils the one touch concept when you have to respond after ab hour or so....

Great program by the way. Can't wait for next version...

djan
28th March 2004, 20:56
Go to Mode and check "Suppress Warning Prompts" option.

jdobbs
28th March 2004, 21:57
NEW VERSION LOADED

All,

Attached is the latest update to DVD Rebuilder (v0.26) -- this one has some important fixes and enhancements included... so bug reports on any earlier versions will go unheeded. A summary of changes is provided below:

- Corrected an error that was causing skipping and pixelation at chapter points when fast-forwarding and rewinding through chapters. This fix may also correct other problems that may not have been as apparent related to chapter points and navigation. Much thanks to the beta testers for pointing me in the right direction on this one.

- The bitrate calculating algorithm can now examine the original allocation by Cell and assign bitrates to each cell consistent with that of the original DVD. This essentially uses the original DVD as a "first pass" and gives more bandwidth to cells that need it. This could (theoretically) result in better quality. This "dynamic" bitrate allocation can be enabled by selecting "Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates" from the "Modes" menu.

- Added a flag accessible through SETUP that lets you force encoders to be run in a minimized, no-focus state. This may-or-may-not work (depending upon versions) when using eclCCE as an interface with CCE.

- Fixed an issue in which a NAVPACK reference frame could be off by one when the next PICTURE_START_CODE begins on a sector boundary. Not sure what impact it might have, but I noted it when investigating the pixelation/jumping problem that some have said they experience.

- Fixed an overflow problem that is the source of at least some of runtime error '9's that have been received during the REBUILD phase of DVD-RB. Not the only one, though.

- Made a few other minor bug fixes and changes for efficiency.

THE ATTACHMENT HAS BEEN DELETED
A newer version (v0.27) is now available here. (http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?s=&postid=466693)

GooglyBear
29th March 2004, 00:40
is it a no-no to use DVDShrink first before using DVDRB?
I got a brand new dvd I'm going to back-up and I'm wondering what's best.. I usually run it through dvdshrink and remove unwanted audio streams and reduce unwanted/extras..

will that cause problems to dvd-rb or just run the entire dvd through dvdrb since it's using CCE anyhows and the quality will be better regardless if I run it through Shrink first?

:sly:

jdobbs
29th March 2004, 00:45
Originally posted by GooglyBear
is it a no-no to use DVDShrink first before using DVDRB?
I got a brand new dvd I'm going to back-up and I'm wondering what's best.. I usually run it through dvdshrink and remove unwanted audio streams and reduce unwanted/extras..

will that cause problems to dvd-rb or just run the entire dvd through dvdrb since it's using CCE anyhows and the quality will be better regardless if I run it through Shrink first?

:sly: My recommendation is not to run "pre-passes" with another product before running DVD-RB. Too many unknowns left behind by the first program through... But there is only one way to find out.

robw
29th March 2004, 00:46
No it should not cause any problems; however, keep in mind, DVD-RB is a beta product. If you run into any problems and want to let the author JDOBBS know, you need to be running DVD-RB with a minimum amount of preprocessing. Also, DVD-RB will let you remove unwanted audio tracks directly within the program.

robw
29th March 2004, 00:47
sorry! I agree with JDobbs and don't want to confuse. I was typing at the same time!

jdobbs
29th March 2004, 02:45
Has anyone tried the new "Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates" feature yet? I was wondering if there were any DVD that showed a measurable range. In the tests I did there were usually only a few hundred kilobits difference between cells.

StifflerStealth
29th March 2004, 03:09
Originally posted by jdobbs
Has anyone tried the new "Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates" feature yet? I was wondering if there were any DVD that showed a measurable range. In the tests I did there were usually only a few hundred kilobits difference between cells.

I tried it out. I haven't clicked the encode button yet, though. There is a reange of numbers. I went through a film one time and noted the difference in bitrates. This did a pretty good job at allocating different averages to cells.

edit: whant me to post the averages?

Stiff

djan
29th March 2004, 03:22
Originally posted by jdobbs
Has anyone tried the new "Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates" feature yet? I was wondering if there were any DVD that showed a measurable range. In the tests I did there were usually only a few hundred kilobits difference between cells. Hi Jdobbs, again great program, it rulez. Here are my average bitrate values :

vbr_brate_avg
--------------

3259
2766
3179
2971
3311
3125
3204
3262
4375
3064
2883
2573
2660
4057
3185
3002
4512
3024
2692
2605
2926
2594
3306
2628
3960
3278
2985
4539
3818
3392
3113

It seems to work pretty well. Don't you think ?

Edit : Typo correction.

jdobbs
29th March 2004, 03:25
Yeah. I think it was a good idea after all. I will probably eventually make it the only method for allocating. I just wanted to compare the two first.

nwg
29th March 2004, 05:56
I just done the first LOTR film with "Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates" and Quenc. The total file size was 4.13GB.

I forgot how long it was so it took a while. Is it worth doing it again but with CCE or will the file sizes be the same? or just do a different shorter film.

I chose it as I wanted a DVD with just menus and film (no photo gallery).

gvittoz
29th March 2004, 10:55
Yes Great
I tried with RejiG no problems
But when I want to try with QuEnc 0,45
I've got the problem
"AVS File is not outputing
(Use ConvertToYV12()at end of script)"

It's probably my fault but I don't understand
Thanks for all your work but please Help me

emistral
29th March 2004, 11:33
@jdobbs:
Great job
I am just starting to use DVD rebuilder and I followed the instructions in the readme file
I used to backup my dvds with reauthorist, CCE, doitfast4u, etc...
So I removed all of them plus avisynth, etc..
Then i reinstalled what was suggested:
avisynth 2.5.4
dvd decryptor latest version
dv2avi dg version

I am using CCE 2.5 so I also installed EclCCE 1.8

I setup DVD RB as described and then loaded my DVD (after using DVD decryptor).
I am starting with Whale Rider, PAL version
I am in Australia so everything is PAL
I decided to use method 2
I press Prepare. DVD RB processed the VTSses, build the AVS files and ECL files.
I did not checked the content of the ECL files neither the AVS ones.
Anyway when I pressed the Encode button, I had a serie of number - sort of an error code - in the processing gauge.
I can't remember the number
Encoding should last hours but mine lasted 1s.
Obviously it did not do a thing
I tried to press rebuild but I had a warning/error "nothing to do"

Then I tried the one click method
Same problem
The onl difference is that I did not see the error code but I had the "nothing to do" warning

I am suspecting my CCE version because according to ECL manual, I should have an ECL option menu in CCE and I don't have this one

Any idea ?
thanks

onesoul
29th March 2004, 11:39
@emistral

Did you run once the eclcce alone to point cce executable?

nwg
29th March 2004, 14:36
I just thought of a simple suggestion.

Would it be possible to have a pause/resume button next to the abort button or make it pause after the current segment encoding is finished.

Thanks.

jdobbs
29th March 2004, 15:08
Originally posted by nwg
I just thought of a simple suggestion.

Would it be possible to have a pause/resume button next to the abort button or make it pause after the current segment encoding is finished.

Thanks. That's easily doable.

nwg
29th March 2004, 15:15
That's easily doable.

That would be great. :)

robw
29th March 2004, 15:30
I am using CCE 2.5 so I also installed EclCCE 1.8

EclCCE 1.8 has a problem, go back to 1.7b

gvittoz
29th March 2004, 16:05
Originally posted by gvittoz
Yes Great
I tried with RejiG no problems
But when I want to try with QuEnc 0,45
I've got the problem
"AVS File is not outputing
(Use ConvertToYV12()at end of script)"

It's probably my fault but I don't understand
Thanks for all your work but please Help me

Noone see something for my problem ???

Master Jdobbs please ...
I would like explain in french fotr other people and it's just
what is wrong

GooglyBear
29th March 2004, 16:10
Originally posted by jdobbs
Has anyone tried the new "Dynamically Assign Cell Bitrates" feature yet? I was wondering if there were any DVD that showed a measurable range. In the tests I did there were usually only a few hundred kilobits difference between cells.

I have.. I backed up "Glengary Glenross" and it came out beautifully!
Also, Backup speed seems faster..

it takes 24 hours (yes, i said 24) on my Duron 800 128MB pc..

it took less than 12 on my Athlon 1Ghz 512MB one :p I kicked it off at 9PM and when I woke up it was done! Quality-wise.. I ran it using 4 passes (which means 3) and I'll test the actual PQ on my LCD RPTV HDTV tonight when I get home.. this set simply reveals any flaws on dvd backups.. :sly:

ps: I have been running my dvd's through shrink first with the "logical remapping of enabled streams" option and it's been working marvelously.. I think people encounter bugs with the shrink-option first because they simply omit streams and whatnot without remapping it..

keep up the great work jdobbs! Once you throw in that ROBA integration I'd definitely help support the cause :)

edit: btw i obviously know that the stronger machine will do a faster backup, what i left out was that from the same machine it seemed to do a faster backup :p

jdobbs
29th March 2004, 16:11
Originally posted by gvittoz
Noone see something for my problem ???

Master Jdobbs please ...
I would like explain in french fotr other people and it's just
what is wrong When you do this, are you starting over again? My guess is not. If you change the Encoder type (like from ReJig to QuEnc) you have to do the "Prepare" function again (that is when the ConvertToYV12() is added). In the next version I will do a sanity check when you start to make sure these issues are avoided.

Abnormal1
29th March 2004, 17:09
Hi,
I finally had a chance to try ReBuilder properly and all I can say is Wow! Excellent program.

Anyway to My question.

How do you calculate the bitrate. Do you use the percentage value that ReBuilder Displays in the status panel and apply that compression percentage to each Cell.
If you do then would it be possible to have the option to increase the compression percentage for extras and reduce the percentage to the Movie buy a centain amount.

e.g Reduction Level for DVD-5: 50.6% could become 60.6% on extras and 40.6% on movie.

I dont think the difference in percentage between the Extras and Movie would not need to be much and the final size should be the same.

Thanks
Abnormal

jdobbs
29th March 2004, 17:30
I calculate by using the number of frames and frame-rate to determine the length-of-time of the cell. I then calculate how much space it needs to take (using the reduction percentage), and between the two can get a resulting bitrate.

You can't just split the percentage value and reduce based on the result... as extras usually take a lot less space than the movie. So if you have 75% of the DVD real estate dedicated to the movie and only 25% in extras -- every 1% reduction in bitrate of an extra only gives a .33% increase to the DVD (I hate doing math in public)...

rayvt
29th March 2004, 17:30
Hmmm, you said both:
"...It really wouldn't matter if the distribution is made based upon the original stream. I think it is safe to make the assumption that the studio that created the DVD performed VBR on the stream and the appropriate number of bits were applied to each section to keep a constant quality level. "
and
"... but when the going gets tough and bits are at a premium (which is often the case with full-DVD recompression) you really need to spread the available bits across a large VBR consideration area."

I think the latter is more likely to be correct than the former. Also, as far as the bit-distribution decisions made by the original studio, these decisions were made in the context of <b>that</b> overall (higher) bitrate. The distributions may well not be optimal for a lower overall bitrate. Consider, for example, a non-varying cell next to a high-movement cell. If you cut the overall bitrate in half, you would probably prefer to cut the non-varying cell a lot so that you can give a higher bitrate to the high demand cell. You can only do this if the encoder is doing both cells in the same job.

That said, as long as the size reduction isn't very large, there is probably little visible difference between the two alternative methods. And we don't want to let the perfect be the enemy of the good. A good, free, fast tool is better than a perfect tool that nobody will make because it's too much work.

Oh, duh! Just read about the new "dynamic allocate" feature. You could probably do a passable job at intra-cell bit re-allocation by making the new bitrates a non-linear function of the original bitrates--reduce the high bitrate cells less than the low bitrate ones. Again, though, this is based on the presumption that the original source distributed the bitrates optimally. And I would guess that this is probably a valid assumption---they probably didn't do it manually but rather used a very high quality (= very expensive) encoder with many passes.

jdobbs
29th March 2004, 18:37
@rayvtHmmm, you said both:
"...It really wouldn't matter if the distribution is made based upon the original stream. I think it is safe to make the assumption that the studio that created the DVD performed VBR on the stream and the appropriate number of bits were applied to each section to keep a constant quality level. "
and
"... but when the going gets tough and bits are at a premium (which is often the case with full-DVD recompression) you really need to spread the available bits across a large VBR consideration area."Yes, but they were on two different subjects... there is a point at which the pay-off you get for additional frames in the VBR consideration domain starts diminishing. There is a big difference between a domain consisting of a single GOP and the one represented in an entire cell. The GOP or single-pass VBR buffer area would probably fall below the curve, and the typical cell probably falls above the curve...

e1miran
29th March 2004, 23:07
This may be dumb newbie question, but why the command to resample audio in AVS to 44.1k? Isn't 48k the DVD standard? Will resampling cause audio not to play in some standalones?

RobertR
29th March 2004, 23:19
I believe it's a trick to stop CCE from leaking memory on AMD processors. AddAudio snippet does the same but in newer versions of Avisynth.
DVD Rebuilder does not reencode any audio stream.

emistral
30th March 2004, 00:18
@Onesoul:
Yes I ran EclCCE once to point the CCE executable.
So EclCCE is pointing to the right executable.

But I still have this problem
It is not reencoding at all

Anybody out there with a suggestion ?

emistral
30th March 2004, 00:20
Also somebody mentioned EclCCE 1.8 is bugged so I reverse to 1.7b if I can find it

emistral
30th March 2004, 00:23
Sorry, last post.

DVD RBV has been developed for NTSC system I presume. Is there any specific settings so that it can work on PAL system ?
I know that with the big 3 I used to use, I had to check the type of movie (progressive, etc...) and adjust some parameters in the AVS files.
@jdobbs: if I follow the same method I used to use in big 3 (modifying AVS files) will it have any impact on DVD RBV and make it behave stranglely in the rebuild process ?
I am guessing not since the AVS scripts are used by CCE but better to ask the expert

Thanks

nwg
30th March 2004, 00:30
DVD RBV has been developed for NTSC system I presume. Is there any specific settings so that it can work on PAL system ?

I have been using it with PAL discs just fine.

jdobbs
30th March 2004, 01:17
Originally posted by e1miran
This may be dumb newbie question, but why the command to resample audio in AVS to 44.1k? Isn't 48k the DVD standard? Will resampling cause audio not to play in some standalones? It isn't actually doing anything. It is a way to get around a known bug that occurs when using CCE 2.50.

jdobbs
30th March 2004, 01:45
NEW VERSION v0.27 ATTACHED

All,

Attached please find a new version (v0.27) of DVD ReBuilder. Sorry for the continual updates -- but I'm trying to stay up with the bug reports in this beta stage. The changes are listed below:

- Fixed an error in which SCRs resetting within a VTS could cause buffer overruns and "Runtime error '9'" errors. This should fix a majority of the overrun problems.

- Code has been added to include audio selections when saving/opening project files.

- Changed the range of values in CCE "Quality_prec" dropdown so it now accepts values of 0-64 (to be compliant with newer versions). When used with version 2.50 the value is multiplied by 1.56 (range 0-100) to get comparable output.

Newer version available -- see the first post in this thread.

nwg
30th March 2004, 01:49
Attached please find a new version (v0.27) of DVD ReBuilder. Sorry for the continual updates -- but I'm trying to stay up with the bug reports in this beta stage. The changes are listed below:


Don't be sorry. You are awesome getting this much work done so quickly.

Take a rest.

onesoul
30th March 2004, 02:59
Originally posted by jdobbs
You can't just split the percentage value and reduce based on the result... as extras usually take a lot less space than the movie. So if you have 75% of the DVD real estate dedicated to the movie and only 25% in extras -- every 1% reduction in bitrate of an extra only gives a .33% increase to the DVD (I hate doing math in public)...

0.33% increase to movie size and 0.25% increase to dvd size but I think it was what you meant. (I just hope I am not making a fool out of myself *sigh*)

rayvt
30th March 2004, 04:38
DDVRebuilder conversion time comparisons.
Italian Job WS 159007 frames, 1:50:24, 6624 seconds
Reduction=81.8
Main movie only, ripped with smartripper, converted to DVD with
IFOEdit.
Rebuilt with DVDRebuilder v0.23 on AMD2400+, 1024MB ram

Times in seconds
CCE2.66.01.07
Prep....157
Encod...6389
Rebld...1218
Total...7764


Rejig 0.5e
Prep....797
Encod...892
Rebld...1191
Total...2880


QuEnc 0.45
Prep....156
Encod...8231
Rebld...905
Total...9292

DVDShrink 3.1.7.6
Total...3420

Comments: After a brief look at the converted movies I didn't see any
noticable difference in the video quality between any of the encoders.

Conclusions:
The rejig alternative looks pretty fast, except for the prep step.
This is longer probably because the prep stage creates both MPV and
AVS files. For the other two, the prep only creates the AVS files.
If rejig could use the AVS instead of needing the MPV, it would be
a lot faster.

StifflerStealth
30th March 2004, 05:08
Originally posted by rayvt
Reduction=81.8

That is why the transcoders look good. Try the entire disc and not just the main movie to see how the quality compares. I waiting for another transcoder shootout that actually has rejig in it. There are several of those out there. Doom9.org has codec shootouts.

Stiff

CiViC
30th March 2004, 05:26
Originally posted by nwg
Don't be sorry. You are awesome getting this much work done so quickly.

Take a rest.

I concur..spend some time with your wife before she gets pissed and kicks your ass :)

DDogg
30th March 2004, 05:38
Jdobbs - Just an FYI: I had my first successful use of your program using rejig, via an Alcohol mounted ISO, after I enabled RMPS in the Emulation Options menu. Maybe this was just a fluke, but I wanted to at least suggest that other alcohol users with problems try this and report back if it helps them also. (after doing this, I no longer got the subscript 9 thing which started up in .26)

As said, maybe just a fluke on my machine, but it will not hurt for a few to try.

djan
30th March 2004, 06:06
Hi jdobbs,

Is it possible to add MEncoder support ? Thx.

Nedfu
30th March 2004, 07:03
Quality-wise.. I ran it using 4 passes (which means 3)

Does this mean that if I set the CCE option to do "4" passes it really does just 3? Picking 2 would be only 1 pass?

2COOL
30th March 2004, 08:09
@Nedfu

Welcome to the forum!

I just wanted to point out to you about quoting etiquette. When you quote someone, please ensure that the username of the person you are quoting is inserted. The DVD-RB threads can easily build up on alot of threads and others will be confused on who you were quoting for a reply. I actually found who you were quoting on the previous thread. Can you imagine if it was on the first page?

Originally posted by GooglyBear
Quality-wise.. I ran it using 4 passes (which means 3) and I'll test the actual PQ on my LCD RPTV HDTV tonight when I get home.. this set simply reveals any flaws on dvd backups.. :sly:Don't know if your intention was to get a reply from GooglyBear or from others but anyways, I can't confirm your question but just wanted to know who you were quoting. ;)

gvittoz
30th March 2004, 08:59
Originally posted by jdobbs
When you do this, are you starting over again? My guess is not. If you change the Encoder type (like from ReJig to QuEnc) you have to do the "Prepare" function again (that is when the ConvertToYV12() is added). In the next version I will do a sanity check when you start to make sure these issues are avoided.

Thank you for the answer Master Jdobbs
but I try many possibilities
I reinstall all and always the same thing
"AVS File is not outputing
(Use ConvertToYV12()at end of script)"

I don't understand what is wrong

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way that Pay pal ???