Guide for adding a subtitle on a Blu-Ray Disc keeping the original menu [Archive] - Page 6

borivoje

4th July 2010, 03:02

If I don't use BDEdit to add the info on added subtitles, I can't use it because the player (Total Media Theatre or standalone) don't see the added subs. I have successfully used both fixmpls for fixing in_out time and chapter marks, and BDEdit for adding info on new subs a dozen times, but with these two Universal's titles I have problem. Also, I don't see how the in_out time and chapter marks of the main movie (which are fine in both situations - when using remuxed .clpi and playlist file or with the playlist file from the original after fixing it with fixmpls) have anything to do with the functionality of the extras.

crl2007

4th July 2010, 03:47

Have you used Apply to CLPI after you added those informations ?

borivoje

4th July 2010, 11:32

Have you used Apply to CLPI after you added those informations ?

Of course I have.

crl2007

4th July 2010, 13:59

Yes, that's curious. They should have nothing to do with the extras. The extras have completely different mpls and clpi files. Maybe you should adress this issue at BDEdit topic: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125903 It's clearly that something happens that the player does not like. Maybe Pelican9 can shed some light if you provide him with the original and the fixed mpls resulted after BDEdit edit.

You should try this 2 things also:

1. Skip fixmpls and use only BDEdit. You can edit the in time and BDEdit will edit the out time too and chapter marks. After that add the subtitle streams and click apply to clpi and then click save.

2. Add the streams with BDEdit first and after that use fixmpls.

It's worth a try.

borivoje

5th July 2010, 23:19

Hello

I was off for a few days and I'll try these 2 possible solutions as soon as I get a little time ... I'll let you know about results ...

THANKS

CHEERS

borivoje

7th July 2010, 01:22

I have tried both procedures and few more tricks (I tried updating two playlists, because BDInfo shows two identical playlists for the main movie (00000 and 00001), but it's not working ... It seems that information about new subtitle, added to the playlist either through remuxing with TSMuxer or by updating the original playlist with BDEdit messes up with the structure and disables the extras in case when the movie was played first. If anyone has any recent Universal title it would be helpful to try to add subtitles and see if the same problem occurs.

borivoje

9th July 2010, 23:28

I have ''solved'' the problem by replacing the last original subs with the new one ... But, it seems that any added subs (without removing original subs) somehow ruin the structure of these newer ''Universal'' titles ...

CHEERS

crl2007

9th July 2010, 23:32

Glad to know that you solved the problem.

iwao

11th July 2010, 13:13

Hi. I'm following applications for first page and I added sleepy hollow subtitle turkish Blu-ray Disc. iso file to my problem, works seamlessly with power dvd 10. BD-RE disc, but Blu-ray player will not open files when I transfer. predicts the menu, but the movie does not start. the sound is coming, I can see the subtitles, but no image. my sony blu-ray player BDP-s 360 region B. Where do you think could be problem. Thank you for your help.

crl2007

11th July 2010, 14:49

As far as I know, that Sony isn't so permissive with edited discs. I could be wrong, but try to find out more about the player.

x400

24th July 2010, 06:31

hey guys ive been doing a lot of searching and reading and i think i might not be good at it because i cant find an answer

how would i add subtitles to a bd disc with no original subtitles and menu is it roughly the same process described in here?

thanks

crl2007

24th July 2010, 10:05

It's the same process. Try and use multiAVCHD if you have no knowledge whatsoever about BD structure.

x400

24th July 2010, 11:16

cool thnx! :)

ps3z

30th July 2010, 22:53

hi,i replaced subtitle with clpi and playlist files,it works!but pop up menu deactivated,its not working,how i can resolve it?by the way,bd info no working for check the clpi and playlist files,just notifying as copy protected or files are damaged,i check it with bdedit,that was useful,thanks for nice subject and helps

"System is windows 7"

crl2007

30th July 2010, 23:01

You have all you need in the guide. If the pop-up does not work, do not REPLACE the mpls, just edit it with bdedit.

Capsbackup

31st July 2010, 00:14

I have noticed that on some original Blu ray discs, there is a pop-up chapter marker and / or timeline when fast forwarding/rewinding or chapter advances. On full movie backups with BD-RB, this is kept. However, if I want to use multiAVCHD and a custom menu, importing a movie only BD-RB AVCHD backup, or a reencoded file from another application or from multiAVCHD, this content is not preserved.
Is there a way to keep this on a multiAVCHD reencode compilation?
Is there a way to import it back into the backup?

deank

31st July 2010, 08:50

I have no idea what is it that you're describing. :)

laserfan

31st July 2010, 14:21

I have no idea what is it that you're describing. :)Seems pretty rare, but as Caps says, when you attempt a >>| (chapter advance) a graphic pops-up onscreen, with thumbnail images...

An annoying, ugly, awful thing that I can't imagine why anyone would want to retain, but then everyone's different thank heaven... :)

crl2007

31st July 2010, 14:34

@Capsbackup Keep the original mpls and just edit it with bdedit, to accomodate the IN_OUT times. So you will have the whole mpls structure, including those marks. This feature is quite common, but, as laserfan says, it's an ugly thing to be seen on screen. Like the ones that appear when you change audio or subtitle streams. But all these features can be kept by keeping the original mpls and just edit the IN_OUT times/PlaylistMarks with bdedit.

deank

31st July 2010, 14:46

I don't know what this feature is, where does it get info for these thumbnails and markers and how to 'keep' them.

I'll appreciate a sample to take a look at it. Is it a MENU element, BD-J feature or something else?

I guess in re-author mode it is kept, isn't it?

crl2007

31st July 2010, 14:53

BD-J feature, it's only present on BD-J menus.

deank

31st July 2010, 14:55

Then it means that it cannot be added as a feature in multiAVCHD in normal authoring mode, because it uses HDMV/IGS menus and not BD-J.

Capsbackup

31st July 2010, 15:29

Seems pretty rare, but as Caps says, when you attempt a >>| (chapter advance) a graphic pops-up onscreen, with thumbnail images...

An annoying, ugly, awful thing that I can't imagine why anyone would want to retain, but then everyone's different thank heaven... :)

:o:(
Feeling a little sheepish now!:p
I guess I am only one of the few, or only one, out there that thought some of these creative pop-ups on the main feature looked :cool:.
I am not comfortable with my capabilities using BDEdit, so I guess these will stay with full backups only.:)
Thanks for the info!

I guess in re-author mode it is kept, isn't it?
Yes, at least the several full backups I have done have kept it. :)

crl2007

31st July 2010, 15:39

I explained in the guide how to use BDEdit for this kind of editing in detail. With pictures too.

Capsbackup

31st July 2010, 15:50

I explained in the guide how to use BDEdit for this kind of editing in detail. With pictures too.

OK, I am feeling a little adventuresome! :)
I have a project on my HD now that has a full backup from BD-RB that retained this on the main movie.
I would like to:
Import that .mpls only into add video files, for the main movie.
Add my custom menu.
Add some bonus features, gag reel, making of, etc... into a new compilation with multiAVCHD.
After multiAVCHD completes this new backup, do I then substitute/replace the original mpls from BD-RB into the newly created backup from multiAVCHD?
Then use BDEdit?
Sorry if this has been discussed elswhere. :)

crl2007

31st July 2010, 16:09

Yes, exactly.

ps3z

31st July 2010, 16:17

hi,i did everything from guide,it works when i play it from menu but when i change chapters from pop up menu,playing with another language and subtitles,seems like sorting is corrupted,could exist another playlist?do you have an idea for solve it?

laserfan

31st July 2010, 16:22

:o:( Feeling a little sheepish now!:p
I guess I am only one of the few, or only one, out there that thought some of these creative pop-ups on the main feature looked :cool:.I did not mean to offend; we need people who "think different"! ;)

For my own part, when I make a backup, it's to get rid of all that stuff that IMO wastes bits, when all I want to do is enjoy the movie (though I do always retain chapter markes) with my custom subtitles, at an audio/video quality that is indistinguishable from the original.

If I want to see all the "fluff", then I can just rack-up the original BD (and suffer thru the trailers & warnings & logocrap thereon). :p

Capsbackup

31st July 2010, 20:34

I did not mean to offend; we need people who "think different"! ;)

No offense taken, and I definately fall into the category of one who "thinks differently" :p

Capsbackup

31st July 2010, 22:23

Yes, exactly.

Tried this, and though the movie plays just fine, no pop-up or timeline is displayed like the BD-RB full backup.
Even tried copying the BDJO and JAR contents from the original, since they are not copied over by multiAVCHD, but still no work.

Then it means that it cannot be added as a feature in multiAVCHD in normal authoring mode, because it uses HDMV/IGS menus and not BD-J.

Looks like you are correct deank!

crl2007

1st August 2010, 03:43

Capsbackup

1st August 2010, 06:28

Since you use a custom menu, the BD-J functionality can't be retained. That method only works if you keep the original menu and just edit it to accommodate the replaced streams. Until now I didn't read that you make a custom menu too.

I suspected this, but thought you may have a work around! Oh well!
Yes I do retain these when I use re-author mode to blank warnings and adverts, and this is what brought about my curiosity to retain them when using multiAVCHD and a custom menu and titles.

crl2007

1st August 2010, 08:08

No, once you replace the menu, the BD-J code is useless.

ps3z

1st August 2010, 22:00

hi,bd info no working on windows 7 64bit? while open bdmv folder gives an error " error occured while scanning playlist file"

bdinfo v.0.5.4

crl2007

1st August 2010, 22:30

Here it works. Windows 7 x64.

ps3z

1st August 2010, 22:38

Here it works. Windows 7 x64.

i tried but i getting erros,do u have any idea about it?

ps3z

3rd August 2010, 20:00

hi everboby,i replaced subtitle a movie,but cutting from the last 10min from movie,i manage out time as 10min longer,it works but page of federal is standing longer than original time,could you suggest anything about this? by the way some movies works perfect with this arrangement.thanks for everything crl2007

crl2007

3rd August 2010, 20:30

Don't cut the movie or cut 10 minutes from OUT time too with BDEdit.

ps3z

4th August 2010, 10:27

Don't cut the movie or cut 10 minutes from OUT time too with BDEdit.

i didnt cut,i mentioned it cuts itself,when i edit with tsmuxer and copy clipinf after finish all and while playing on tmt player,its happening at movie like this,and i adding 10min the last of movie in bdedit,it works well on tmt but not on ps3 as bdr media,so hard to explain it on net,thanks again

crl2007

4th August 2010, 12:18

It doesn't cut itself, you are doing something wrong when editing the original mpls or when inserting the original chapter marks in tsmuxer.

ps3z

4th August 2010, 13:06

It doesn't cut itself, you are doing something wrong when editing the original mpls or when inserting the original chapter marks in tsmuxer.

i checked manytime,jumping to next video as deluxe studios,i think this happening at this content of movie bcz of deluxe studios authoring no allowing to re-edit well ,movie started after than wait 10min. 1st shows fbi etc video after 10 min waiting even showing main movie,i have to wait 10 min allways,you can say maybe i did 10min intime etc,i didnt do nothing also it cuts around 10min from the last scene of movie and jumping to deluxe studios video file

by the way,i solve it like add 10 min last of movie for make continue the movie,its done but just fbi video standing 10min at the 1st of movie and after movie starting,normally shows this mpls file 10second in bdedit,thats all

Redited movie is Platoon

ps3z

4th August 2010, 17:15

by the way i didnt change any chapter marks from movie,i leave how i click to custom chapters in tsmuxer,i did right? that chapters timelines are origin of the movie?

crl2007

4th August 2010, 17:47

ps3z

4th August 2010, 18:44

To be honest, I can't really understand what you really want to say. Your english is bad. It's not the movie's fault, it's your own. You MUST edit just the MAIN MOVIE mpls, not the extras or warnings mpls. And if you have a second video in the playlist, you just let it's IN_OUT times unedited and edit the IN_OUT time just for the MAIN MOVIE. BDEdit sets the IN_OUT time for every PlayItem individually.

be sure buddy,i didnt do any mistake for get faults,if i could do that,that was how u explained in forum,that authored movie cuts 10min from the last scene,i added 10 min out time of movie and playing well on tmt and powerdvd but when i record to bdr,having some problems and wont playing well on ps3 and blu-ray player like in computer,sure so hard to explain it,anyway thanks for best concern:thanks:

Note:If u interesting,you can try the platoon movie and after re author it, record to 25gb bdr and check on some players,you will see what i mentioned alltime,thats happening mostly what deluxe studio company made it

deank

4th August 2010, 18:58

Why don't you try to re-author the disc with multiAVCHD?

ps3z

4th August 2010, 22:59

Why don't you try to re-author the disc with multiAVCHD?

hi dean,i will try mutiavchd,i didnt try longtime,i remember old version of mutiavchd didnt have re author mode before,bcz i wanna keep the original menu and all contents and would to replace a subtitle,thats all,i will check the new version of multiavchd,i wish will solve my projects,thanks