Guide for adding a subtitle on a Blu-Ray Disc keeping the original menu

[crl2007]

Guide for adding a subtitle on a Blu-Ray Disc keeping the original menu and its functions

Necessary software and codecs:

Codecs:

Before installing these codecs, uninstall all codecs that you may have installed on your computer.

ffdshow (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/ffdshow-tryouts-project-x86-x64/) + haali (http://multiAVCHD.deanBG.com/haali_MatroskaSplitter_11-01-2009.exe)

For Windows 7 users: Preferred Filter Tweaker for Windows 7 (http://www.codecguide.com/windows7_preferred_filter_tweaker.htm) - it's free and straight forward

FOR HAALI: TAKE ONLY THE VERSION LISTED HERE.

Always take the latest version.

Software:

1. tsMuxer GUI (http://smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html) - free
2. ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre 3 Platinum (http://www.arcsoft.com/public/software_title.asp?ProductID=362) or PowerDVD 9 (http://www.cyberlink.com/products/powerdvd/overview_en_US.html) - not free
3. BDInfo (http://www.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/tools/bdinfo) - free
4. Bluray.bat (http://fbx.ro/ykpf2efwywwt2qbi) - free It's a file that will make the BD structure compatible for creating the .iso file, so the file can be played with PowerDVD.
5. ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/) - free
6. Clown BD (http://www.clownbd.com/) - free ( Only for BD's with video split across multiple *.m2ts files )
7. BDEdit (http://pel.hu/bdedit/) - free

Let's begin. DON'T SKIP ANY STEP. READ CAREFULLY AND DON'T RUSH IT.

Choose a partition with at least 100 GB free. Create a folder called "Workspace". In this folder, create other two folders, called "Original" and "Remuxed". In the folder called "Original" copy the original disc, the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders. The "Remuxed" folder is for the results coming further below.

1. Open BDInfo and look for the folder containing the Bluray or, if it is a disc, the corresponding letter of the drive it's inserted in.

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You can see which mpls in the PLAYLIST PLAYLIST contains the movie.

2. Open tsMuxer and press the ADD button, choosing that mpls file, in our case 00003.mpls.

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Identify the subtitle you want to replace. Press the Remove button in order to delete it.

3. Add, again with the ADD button, the .srt file you have prepared on your hard drive.

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With the UP button take it on to the 10th position, initially occupied by the subtitle deleted at the second step.

Select RON ( Romanian ) from the language menu. ( You can do it for your native language )

4. Now do the following settings:

GENERAL:

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Blu-Ray:

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Don't make any changes in the "Custom chapters list", as that information is taken directly from the mpls. At the "First MPLS file" choose 3, since we have 00003.mpls, the playlist containing the movie. If we had 00100.mpls containing the movie, we would have chosen 100. At "First M2TS file" choose 3, as well, following the same idea. Uncheck "Add blank playlist for cropped video" as it has no use. It's no problem should you forget it checked, it doesn't bother with anything.

Split & Cut:

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Leave everything as it is.

Subtitles:

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Press "Font" and choose the following settings: http://thumbnails25.imagebam.com/5999/9bac3759983614.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/9bac3759983614) Press OK and you'll get the result in the screenshot above.

5. Select "Blu-ray disk" as Output and choose the folder where you want to have the remuxed version. That is X:\Workspace\Remuxed. X is the letter of the partition where you do the work.

6. Press "Start muxing" and wait. It should take a pretty long time, depending on your computer's preformance.

7. After tsMuxer finishes the work, stop it and open the "Remuxed" folder. Now, we will replace the files in the original folder with the modified ones. Before doing that, create a BACKUP folder, where you should save the files that you will replace in the Original folder. Go to the X:\Workspace\Remuxed\BDMV\STREAM folder and CUT the 00003.m2ts. Go to the X:\Workspace\Original\BDMV\STREAM folder and PASTE that file here. Press OK for replacing and wait for it to copy.

8. Go to X:\Workspace\Remuxed\BDMV\CLIPINF and CUT the 00003.clpi file. Go to X:\Workspace\Original\BDMV\CLIPINF and PASTE this file here. Press OK for replacement.

9. Open your "Original" folder in BDEdit. Go to PLAYLIST Tab and find the main movie mpls. After you find it, do the following:

http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/7820/8c4aec78193602.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/8c4aec78193602) If a Blu-Ray has 2 mpls for the main movie, do the same for both of them. For discs to work with TMT 5 you have to copy the IN_OUT Times and chapters from the mpls created with tsmuxer in the one you edit with BDEdit.

Additional information for the BDs with the movie split in several m2ts files: The same method applies for them as well. Write in tsMuxer the number of the playlist and, then, the number of the first m2ts contained. For these discs you will have to skip step 9 and copy the remuxed mpls in your "Original" folder. Go to X:\Workspace\Remuxed\BDMV\PLAYLIST and CUT the 00003.mpls file ( example ). Go to X:\Workspace\Original\BDMV\PLAYLIST and PASTE this file here. Press OK for replacement.

10. After finishing steps 1-9, copy the file bluray.bat in the folder "Original", next to BDMV and CERTIFICATE. Play it and wait to finish. After it's done its work (complete the disc files in order to have a proper iso file) delete it from the "Original" folder.

11. Open ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre 3 Platinum and drag and drop the "Original" folder. TMT reads from folder, PowerDVD 9 does not, that is why you must use TMT in order to ensure that everything is functional: the menu, the chapters, the subtitle.

12. After you make sure everything is all right, open ImgBurn and follow these steps:

12a) Choose to make ISO from files and folders.

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12b) From the folder "Original", drag and drop the BDMV and CERTIFICATE folders and make the following settings in ImgBurn:

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After the iso file is done, load it in Daemon Tools or in the Virtual Drive you prefer and test it once again with TMT and PowerDVD 9. Someone told me it also runs perfectly on PowerDVD 8. But keep the software up to date.

ATTENTION:

1. Some discs have 2 video tracks. Like this: http://thumbnails22.imagebam.com/5999/3e44c359983657.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/3e44c359983657) One 1080p, which is the movie, and one 480p, which is a bonus, or part of an extra. Should this be the case, to succesfully insert the subtitle and for the movie to run, with the UP button, move the video track from the second position to the first position and it will run correctly. DO NOT DELETE THE 480p TRACK, ONLY MOVE IT ON THE SECOND POSITION.

2. Some discs have the video split across multiple *.m2ts files. This discs are containing the Rated and Unrated version, or some extra titles. When you come across one of them, DO NOT USE tsMuxer directly, because tsMuxer does not handle well seamless branched discs. First demux the streams with CLOWN BD ( it's a pretty intuitive program ) and then feed them into tsMuxer. You'll find the demuxed streams in "eac3to output" folder. For chapters, copy the text from chapters.txt that results after demuxing with CLOWN BD, only the time values. Like this: http://thumbnails25.imagebam.com/5999/5e8a1059983645.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/5e8a1059983645) The rest remains exactly the same. Be sure to insert the streams in the correct order.

3. Sometimes, with discs that are having the video split across multiple *.m2ts, you will find out that some of your streams are duplicated after the remux. This is not a problem. Feed the *.mpls from the "Remuxed" folder in tsMuxer, remove the duplicated entries and start muxing again. The same settings as before apply here too. Just don't set the "Subtitles" tab again. It's redundant, as now the subtitles are already in the stream.

4. It's a problem on certain blu-ray discs. tsMuxer isn't reading correctly the playlist and the chapters get screwed up, as well as the end time of the movie. The fix for this is to open the original BD in BDEdit, go to Playlist TAB, choose the movie playlist and then click save chapters. This will save a list of chapters, the correct list and you paste it in tsmuxer, in Custom Chapters List.

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ADDING SUBTITLE TO A SERIES BLU-RAY KEEPING THE ORIGINAL MENU

After prolonged tests, I've developed a method for series discs too.

Let's say that we have a series blu-ray disc with 3 episodes.

1. In the "Remuxed" folder we will make 3 new folders, "Episode 1", "Episode 2", "Episode 3".

2. We follow the 1-6 steps from the tutorial above. We will do these operations for all 3 episodes. In most cases, the structure is this: 1 big mpls that contains all 3 episodes and 1 or two mpls files for each individual episode. WE WILL NOT INSERT THE BIG MPLS IN TSMUXER. NEVER ! You will see with BDInfo which playlists are containig the individual episodes.

3. After tsMuxer finishes and we have all 3 episodes edited in our "Remuxed" folder, we will replace the m2ts + clpi files from the "Original" folder with the ones from "Episode 1", "Episode 2", "Episode 3" folders.

4. Open your "Original" folder in BDEdit and edit the IN time for the individual episodes playlist + the big mpls that contains all episodes. You can see these playlists number in BDInfo:

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Edit the IN time as in the picture below for all of them ( individual episodes playlists and the big mpls containing all episodes )

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Some discs will have in the big mpls some extra credits, like this:

http://thumbnails20.imagebam.com/7820/978ce578195541.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/978ce578195541) They are depicted with blue. For those DO NOT edit the IN time. Edit the IN time only for the episodes.

The same method applies for discs containing both Theatrical and Extended versions. The same steps, only that you'll repeat them for 20+ m2ts files.

Enjoy and I'll wait for feedback from you. Should something not succeed from your first attempt, don't give up. The guide will be completed as new editing methods appear. In some cases, not all the extras can be kept. This method was made by me, after testing several BDs, with various structures. If you have something useful to add, feel free to do so. There are many variables to a blu-ray disc. Recently I've had one where I had to modify a *.xml file in order to run the movie to the end and select the correct playlist for all the regions. There are so many variables, that any input from you is extremely useful. Thank you very much.

[Mtz]

Nice. After the DVD Guide (made by TheMatrix), now the Blu-Ray Guide made also in Romania.
Congratulations. :goodpost:

enjoy,
Mtz

[deank]

NOTA BENE: I also succesfully edited the menu.

PROOF:

...
I will not include that in the guide. For now, there isn't a unique method. When I'll find one method for all discs, I'll return with details.

It would've been really impressive if you really succeeded in editing the menu. Looking forward for more info about the subject.
Of course, we should be talking about editing m2ts menu files with IGS (not some JAVA referenced PNG/BMP images used in BD-J).

[crl2007]

Menus with IGS are very rare these days. IGS was used in the past, now BD-J is used for almost all BD's. Those with IGS only have a Pop-Up menu. I see that this section of BD editing software is kind of dead, not even BDEdit is not updated anymore. And not all menus have referenced png/bmp, some of them, like the one in my example, has another way of editing it. One far more easy than anything. Others require editing the java code, etc. In this domain, only IGS menus are something that I can't do, and this because they are encrypted. When a suitable renderer will be available, those will be edited too. As for "It would've been really impressive if you really succeeded in editing the menu.", I think I already did that. A menu edited is a menu edited. So you can say that at DVD's the menu isn't really edited, just because you edit a bmp file. What would be really impressive is if someone could make an app like VobBlanker for BD's.

[deank]

May be you're right about IGS... I don't have any Blu-ray titles nor I follow what are the latest implementations of menus. Since BD-J is not supported in AVCHD I gave up on java menus earlier this year and I was hoping you got that figured out somehow :)

IG streams are not encrypted - just RLE encoded like PGS. The problem is that there is no muxer to mux IGS with H264+AC3.

[crl2007]

No, IGS are still a problem. I couldn't open them with anything known till today. RLE streams could be open somehow. That's why I concluded that they are encrypted somehow. The only BD with an IGS menu that I saw recently was a CEE one. And another problem, despite the non-existence of a muxer, is that there is no demuxer either. And the worst thig is that these menus are a PNG/BMP file encoded as *.m2ts. That's really an irony, not to be able to edit the most easy menus. I have an idea to modify this kind of menus, but it's too expensive. Considering that it's only a simple menu, a picture, you could re-author with Adobe Encore CS4. Keep the original movie and extras ( no re-encoding ), and do a menu yourself. It's a working method, but time consuming and expensive. Adobe Encore is not cheap. Now, IGS should be edited for PiP extra features on BD discs. Like Cine-Explore on the UP BD and the timeline feature on Public Enemies BD.

[deank]

You can extract/demux IGS with tsRemux. The stream describes all buttons, HDMV navigational commands to be executed when buttons are activated/clicked, sounds, menu pages and in the end, RLE encoded representations of all button/popup graphics. There is no difference between menu IGS and pop-up IGS.

[crl2007]

tsRemux always says "stream is not supported". That's why I said that there's no demuxer either. I've tried. This are the simplest menus and imposible to edit.

[deank]

tsRemux (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125447) - do not confuse it with tsMuxeR.

Anyway, menu discussion is off-topic, because you posted a guide for subtitles.

[crl2007]

With the sources that I've tried, tsRemux said that they are unsupported. Maybe with some sources it works, but then it remains the muxer problem. Any way we take it, IGS works against us. :)

It's not so offtopic, maybe we can figure something out. You have an excellent application, but it doesn't keep the original menu, this way you can keep the original menu too. Maybe, in the future, if you will have the occasion and the software necessary, you could develop a muxer for these kind of files too and include it in multiavchd.

[deank]

Yep, multiAVCHD is kind of an 'authoring' software. I believe jdobbs is much closer to implementing the feature you described in the guide, since BD-Rebuilder (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716) already handles stream changes/removal, while keeping the original menu/pip/popups...

[crl2007]

I received feedback from some of my BD discs testers and they said that after running it through BD Rebuilder it could be seen on standalone players. I received feedback from NMT owners too. If BD_Rebuilder could support insertion of an external subtitle stream and keep the IGS features in the process, with original menu, it would be trully awesome. Because the menu could be modified after that.

I think that, for the moment, the only viable method for that kind of IGS menus is the one with Encore CS4.

That's my end goal, to replace a subtitle stream, to modify the menu and keep the original movie, without re-encoding it. Point 1 and 3 are solved, 2 only 98% solved, and that because of IGS. Lucky for us that these BD's are very rare these days and BD-J is preferred.

[deank]

The way I implemented it in multiAVCHD it may be possible to replace menu background (the static picture) with any background - just the way you mentioned DVD menus or replacing/editing images in BD-J.

I'll give it a try later and will post back... I didn't think of it until now (muxing h264 stream with an existing m2ts file) :)

Furthermore, it is possible to extract the MENU, export as BMP, edit and reimport in the menu m2ts. :)

On the other hand, it is possible to automate your GUIDE with a simple tool that will do everything that you described.

edit: btw, why do you need avisynth?

[crl2007]

If you export it as BMP, it will be excellent. Some menus have the highlights depending on java. This might be tricky.

Avisynth doesn't play any role in this guide, but it's good to be in everyone's PC. That's my opinion. :D

I'm glad that I gave you an idea. Maybe it could work.

And if you could create a tool to automate my guide, it woud also be AWESOME.

[pio011]

Where are your screenshots? :eek:
It would be nice, if you could re-post the screenshots, because I am trying to use your guide. With screenshots it's much easier :thanks:

[crl2007]

For the time being the image host is down for maintenance. It will be up again in a few days. If not, I will find another host.

[pio011]

I don't understand the steps 10-12. Why not check the disc with TMT from folders and burn the folders directly with imgburn without the steps 10-12??

[crl2007]

At step 10, the bluray.bat file is a command line that will create various bd folders if they don't exist. It is possible that some folders are missing.

Steps 11-12 are describing the use of ImgBurn to make a compatible BD ISO.

[pio011]

There are some Blu-Ray Discs that have a popup menu directly linked to the video stream. They have only one m2ts file that contains the movie. In order to keep the menu functional, it is no longer necessary to rewrite the *.mpls and *.clpi files. Keep the original ones and rewrite only the *.m2ts containing the movie.[/b]

Well, I don't think that is true: I have replaced two streams (audio and subtitle) in the way your guide describes it. The whole Disc (menus, new streams etc.) works well, BUT: I cannot open the pop-up menu which shows up while the movie is running. But if I do not replace the original *.mpls and *.clpi files with the new ones (like you said in the quote), the movie won't play at all! That means: If I try to start the movie from the main menu, nothing happens. Do you know why?

[crl2007]

I don't understand your question. That situation described by me is only for discs with IGS menus. This movies are having only that pop-up, they don't have a main menu, and if they have, they only start the mpls of the main movie, so this shouldn't be a problem. Everything I've stated in my guide are situations encountered by me, that's why I said at the end of the guide that if someone encounters another situation and finds a solution, should post the solution and I will include that situation in the guide. There are so many variables with bd discs, that you can't think of all of them untill you encounter one. You must be doing something wrong if the main menu doesn't play your mpls. You can try replacing only the mpls, leaving the clpi intact, or the other way around.

[pio011]

Thanks for your quick answer. Hey, my question wasn't an offence, sorry!:o

I don't know what an IGS menu is?
Basically I was hoping to keep both menus: the main and the pop up menu.
But like I said: If I keep the original *.mpls and *.clpi, the remuxed movie does not start. If I replace the *.mpls and *.clpi, everything is fine, but if I press Pop-Up Menu on my PS3 Remote, nothing happens. I have to go to the main menu to change something or jump to the extras.
I will try to replace only the mpls opr the clpi and will then post my experience.
One more question: What exactly are the mpls and the clpi files for? For what are they needed? What Information do they contain? I am really trying to understand the blu ray structure a bit more :-) Thanks!

Edit:
Maybe I am also doing something wrong: Since your screenshots are missing, maybe I have overlook an important information or setting? Do you have the screenshots somewhere else?

Edit 2:
Where is the information for the pop-up menu stored? Maybe that could help to solve my problem? Maybe it is stored in the stream (.m2ts) file and tsmuxer is messing that up?

[crl2007]

No, tsmuxer is not interfering with them. I've tried personally that part, keeping the original clpi and the original mpls.

You can extract/demux IGS with tsRemux. The stream describes all buttons, HDMV navigational commands to be executed when buttons are activated/clicked, sounds, menu pages and in the end, RLE encoded representations of all button/popup graphics. There is no difference between menu IGS and pop-up IGS.

But there is no muxer to put them together again.

As for your problem, can you post screenshots of the entire BD structure that you have ? Listed, not pictures of folders. Maybe I can see where the problem lies.

Some more information here (http://www.mania.com/aodvb/archive/index.php/t-56349.html) and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc).

[dulejov]

One question.
Is this work with series, and how if does.
I did not try yet, I wait for pictures in guide.
Sorry for my English

Thanks in advance

[crl2007]

It works with series too, only if they are not branched. If each episode has a separate playlist it's ok, but if they all play from the same playlist it's not ok.

PS: If the current image host isn't up in a few days, I'll change the host.

[borivoje]

If I understood it right, this guide is only for replacing the existing subs with the new one. Is there a way I can add the new subs, while leaving the existing ones?

Also, I'm not sure is this the right thread for this question, but is there any tool for synchronizing BD subs, like Subtitle Creator was for DVD's?

[pio011]

As for your problem, can you post screenshots of the entire BD structure that you have ? Listed, not pictures of folders. Maybe I can see where the problem lies.

Ok, I will. What tool can I use to give you a useful Structure overview of the disc?

[crl2007]

@borijove You can add as many stream as you like, but you won't be able to select them from the menu.

@pio011 BDInfo.

LE: I've changed the host of the pictures. Now they are available.

[mamaki]

First thank you for the great tutorial. I'm having problems with it. Don't know if any of you watched the movie after keeping the menus with the custom added subtitles but the last 2 minutes of the movie disappear. If i just add subtitles all's ok but when keeping the menus the last minutes won't play. One other thing, in my case when adding portuguese subtitles by replacing them with the english ones; in the movie i have to choose the en stream to watch my custom pt ones, and i mean in the movie itself not the menus. Can you give me a hand on this? Thanks

[crl2007]

It's a problem on certain blu-ray discs. tsMuxer isn't reading correctly the playlist and the chapters get screwed up, as well as the end time of the movie. The fix for this is to open the original BD in BDEdit, go to Playlist TAB, choose the movie playlist and then click save chapters. This will save a list of chapters, the correct list and you paste it in tsmuxer, in Custom Chapters List.

http://thumbnails25.imagebam.com/6031/1bfcdc60309101.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/1bfcdc60309101)

As far as your second problem goes, that's because you didn't replace the original clpi and mpls with the edited ones.

[mamaki]

Well, you're my guru man!!

[pio011]

HI crl2007!

As you asked before, here is the Report of my Disc. I have replaced the original english monio audio track with a custom language and also replaced one subtitle track with a new one. This disc runs fine, but the movie does not have the pop-up menu anymore. Maybe you have an idea, why this doesn't work? Also, I have tried to use the origins mpls and/or the clpi files: If I use one or both of the original files, the movie won't play at all. Thank you for you effort!!

This is the BDinfo Report (Part I):

Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00003.MPLS AVC 1:32:59 0 22.878.071.932 0,00 0,00 DTS-HD Master 7.1 (48kHz/16-bit)




DISC INFO:

Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22.878.071.932 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00003.MPLS
Length: 1:32:59 (h:m:s)
Size: 0 bytes
Total Bitrate: 0,00 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS-HD Master Audio English 0 kbps 7.1 / 48 kHz / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio German 448 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 448 kbps / DN -4dB

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics German 0,000 kbps
Presentation Graphics Spanish 0,000 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00005.M2TS 0:00:00.000 1:32:59.274 0 0

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
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7 0:35:22.078 0:05:16.315 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
8 0:40:38.393 0:04:04.119 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
9 0:44:42.513 0:04:31.186 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
10 0:49:13.699 0:04:41.281 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
11 0:53:54.981 0:08:25.755 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
12 1:02:20.737 0:07:47.216 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
13 1:10:07.953 0:09:31.070 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
14 1:19:39.024 0:06:21.672 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
15 1:26:00.697 0:05:31.413 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000
16 1:31:32.111 0:01:27.163 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00005.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 0 0 0 0
00005.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x81 AC3 deu (German) 0 0 0 0
00005.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x86 DTS-HD MA eng (English) 0 0 0 0
00005.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS deu (German) 0 0 0 0
00005.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 0 0 0 0
00005.M2TS 4610 (0x1202) 0x90 PGS spa (Spanish) 0 0 0 0




Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00004.MPLS AVC 0:09:30 0 22.878.071.932 0,00 0,00 DTS 2.0 768Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)




DISC INFO:

Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22.878.071.932 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00004.MPLS
Length: 0:09:30 (h:m:s)
Size: 0 bytes
Total Bitrate: 0,00 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080i / 29,970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS Audio English 768 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
Presentation Graphics English 0,000 kbps

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00006.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:09:30.002 0 0

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:09:30.002 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00006.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 0 0 0 0
00006.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x82 DTS eng (English) 0 0 0 0
00006.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 PGS eng (English) 0 0 0 0




Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00005.MPLS AVC 0:04:08 0 22.878.071.932 0,00 0,00 DTS 2.0 768Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)




DISC INFO:

Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22.878.071.932 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00005.MPLS
Length: 0:04:08 (h:m:s)
Size: 0 bytes
Total Bitrate: 0,00 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080i / 29,970 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS Audio English 768 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00007.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:04:08.281 0 0

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:04:08.281 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00007.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 0 0 0 0
00007.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x82 DTS eng (English) 0 0 0 0

[pio011]

Total Video
Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track
----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ ---------------------
00007.MPLS AVC 0:03:20 0 22.878.071.932 0,00 0,00 DTS 2.0 768Kbps (48kHz/24-bit)




DISC INFO:

Disc Title:
Disc Size: 22.878.071.932 bytes
Protection: AACS
BD-Java: No
BDInfo: 0.5.3

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name: 00007.MPLS
Length: 0:03:20 (h:m:s)
Size: 0 bytes
Total Bitrate: 0,00 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
DTS Audio English 768 kbps 2.0 / 48 kHz / 768 kbps / 24-bit

FILES:

Name Time In Length Size Total Bitrate
---- ------- ------ ---- -------------
00009.M2TS 0:00:00.000 0:03:20.283 0 0

CHAPTERS:

Number Time In Length Avg Video Rate Max 1-Sec Rate Max 1-Sec Time Max 5-Sec Rate Max 5-Sec Time Max 10Sec Rate Max 10Sec Time Avg Frame Size Max Frame Size Max Frame Time
------ ------- ------ -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- -------------- --------------
1 0:00:00.000 0:03:20.283 0 kbps 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 kbps 00:00:00.000 0 bytes 0 bytes 00:00:00.000

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File PID Type Codec Language Seconds Bitrate Bytes Packets
---- --- ---- ----- -------- -------------- -------------- ------------- -----
00009.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B AVC 0 0 0 0
00009.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x82 DTS eng (English) 0 0 0 0

[crl2007]

Yeah, it should work as I described in the tutorial.

[pio011]

Well, but it doesn't. And I don't know why :confused:
But let me know one thing: Is the pop-up menu still available in your edited discs? If yes, maybe this is a problem only with this particular disc?!

[crl2007]

None of the discs with this type of menu made problems. They all worked like a charm.

[pio011]

I have re-authored an other disc (added new audio track). Again, everything works fine, but there's no pop-up menu while the main movie is playing. Again, I have used you guide, regarding every little step - but no pop up, just the main menu. :mad:

Obviously I must be completely dumb, or what?!? @crl2007 and @all others: Can you actually open the pop-up menu while movie is running?

[crl2007]

Yes, while the movie is playing, I and everyone else are able to start the pop-up menu. Regularly, movies with IGS menus are having only the pop-up menu and a menu that starts when you call it, regularly just one picture to select certain extra features.

As you can see here:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

The menu is not in the same container as the movie. Before starting this guide I've tested on this movie that I have in my personal collection: Wedding Crashers 2005 Theatrical and Uncorked version.

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
VC-1 Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / Advanced Profile 3

As you can see, the same principle applies. I wouldn't have written that in the guide if the method wasn't tested.

I will borrow a BD with an IGS menu and I'll test some more to see if I can replicate your lack of pop-up menu. It will help me if I know the name of the movie you are trying to edit. Maybe I have it, or a friend has it and I can do further tests. Also it would help me to know if it is the US or EU version.

Later edit: As I promised, I've done some further tests. Everything is functional, I even replaced the clpi file ( normally it isn't done ) for you to see that is possible to have a pop-up menu. With the java discs is even more easier. In this test I've removed all audio streams and left only one subtitle. So there can be no doubt that is a real test.

Original: http://thumbnails6.imagebam.com/6081/54547b60803012.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/54547b60803012)

Edited: http://thumbnails8.imagebam.com/6081/ee0c9c60803011.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/ee0c9c60803011)

As you can see, they both have the pop-up menu while the movie is running. Sorry for the quality of the pictures.

[pio011]

@crl2007: Thanks for your effort! It's really appreciated!
I cannot play blurays on my computer, it's probably too old (TMT says something with my overlay is wrong) So I can only test the discs on my ps3.
Yet I have edited: Halloween (US-Version: Removed 1 Audio-Track and added 1 Audio Track (custom/german). And: New York Ripper (Again removed one audio and subtitle track and added one custom audio and one subtilte track). Both did not work (well, the worked, but no pop-up).
Here's the way I did it:

- I opened the (main movie) .mpls in tsMuxerGui 1.10.06 and replaced the tracks. I have made all changes the way you described it (e.g. in "Bluray" with Halloween: first mpls = 1; first m2ts = 3)
- after remuxing is finished I have replaced (in the original disc) the files: m2ts, mpls and clpi
- burn with imgburn
- played with ps3

What did I mess up? Or is the ps3 not able to read these discs?
And: Where/in what file is the pop up menu actually stored?

Thanks!

[pio011]

I have taken a closer look to the (new) mpls file with BDedit: Obviously TsMuxer is messing something up! As you can see in the picture, compared the two (original and new) mpls file of the main movie: the new one is lacking some information!! Especially the "subpath" type "IG Menu" section is missing. I think that this is the link to the pop-up menu!

[B]Original[\B]
http://thumbnails10.imagebam.com/6082/668c2360810881.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/668c2360810881)

[B]New[\B]
http://thumbnails16.imagebam.com/6082/55750560810888.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/55750560810888)

How can I prevent tsmuxer from ignoring this information?

[crl2007]

I'll ask for help from a colleague here, he knows more than me about PS3 limitations.

[pio011]

Thanks. But what do you think about the changes in the mpls files? I think this is the reason for the missing pop-up.

[crl2007]

No, the pop-up menu is not included in the same mpls or in the same m2ts as the movie, but it's linked to it.

[pio011]

No, the pop-up menu is not included in the same mpls or in the same m2ts as the movie, but it's linked to it.

Yes it is! It's linked within the same mpls! Or at least, I am quite sure. Take a look here to the "White paper Blu-ray Disc Format", found here:

http://www.blu-raydisc.com/Assets/Downloadablefile/2b_bdrom_audiovisualapplication_0305-12955-15269.pdf

On Page 13 it says:

2.2 Mechanism to realize “Browsable Slideshow”, “Pop-up Menu” and “Text subtitle” applications
BD-ROM provides a framework to realize “Browsable Slideshow”, “Pop-up Menu” and “Text subtitle” applications by providing a mechanism called “sub-path”.
The sub-path is a structure that enables the author to easily add a separate (out-of-mux) stream to the main Clip on the main-path.
Figure 2-5 shows the relation between the main-path and the sub-path in case of Text subtitle application. As shown in the figure, a SubPlayItem is logically added to the PlayItem in the PlayList to associate a separate Clip (SubPath) to the PlayItem on the Main path. The text subtitle presentation path using the SubPlayItem is synchronized with the main path using PlayItems in the PlayList.

The question is now: How to edit the .mpls and re-link the subpath to the m2ts/pop up menu? BDedit only gives very limited access... :(

[crl2007]

I've showed you that you can have the pop-up menu if you edit the disc correctly. If you don't replace the original mpls and the original clpi, then you should have a fully working menu. Maybe with the clpi file there can be exceptions, cases in which you can replace them, but the mpls must remain the same. As I said to you, these kind of menus are linked to the main movie, so, implicitly, they are linked to the original mpls. As you can see in your main movie playlist that you posted here, you don't have a second video stream assigned to it. Now I'm gonna ask you to try on your ps3 the same disc, but the original one. To see if you have pop-up menu on the original one. It's impossible to have main menu and not pop-up, because it is the same principle when it comes to IGS menus. The informations are stored in the same place.

[pio011]

The original disc has a pop-up, and it works! If I leave the original mpls, the disc starts and the main menu works also, but the main movie does not start at all (only the time counter shows, as if the movie is playing). Maybe its because I am also replacing an audio-track with a different coding (new: ac3 / old: lpcm)? But then again, I have edited the orignal mpls of the main movie in BDedit and changed the (expected) audio tracks in it to make it fit to the new audio in the new m2ts. Still, nothing plays... :confused:

[crl2007]

It has nothing to do with this. You have to keep the original mpls, so it's impossible for the movie not to start. The errors would be from chapters, if they were any. There is no way that the video won't start, unless you are doing something wrong with the names of original and edited disc. Every single BD worked, only you have this problem from all the forums where I've posted my guide. People replaced subtitle streams, audio streams, removed streams, everything.

[pio011]

Hmmmm...strange: I have analyzed the discs: The Chapters differ from each other - allthough I have copied the chapters from BDedit. The new start from 10 minutes later?!? In tsMuxer the chapters were exactly the same as in the original. After muxing...10 minutes later. But only in the "new" mpls...or are the chapters in the m2ts also wrong???

Thank you for you patience ;)
and merry x-mas,
pio

[deank]

It happens because tsMuxeR uses different base IN_TIME (00:00:11.650 or something like this, I can't remember). Chapters set in mpls files and fine/coarse tables in clpi files are based on it... in other words, all packets in the remuxed m2ts carry different PTS stamps compared to the original m2ts file... That's why I find it strange that it even works if one keeps the original clpi+mpls files.

[laserfan]

I wonder if it's possible to ID the specific offset, then use BDEdit to adjust the times. Probably a lot of work!?

I've been using the basic technique of substituting tsMuxeR .clpi and .mpls (and .m2ts) files into a menu structure made by MovieFactory, and while they work-and-play from MF's main menu, and the chapters seem to be alright, they don't return to the main menu properly following an episode.

Been meaning to try multiAVCHD instead for this but have found it intimidating and just haven't gotten 'round to it yet (is very easy w/MF to make such a disc).

[Capsbackup]

Been meaning to try multiAVCHD instead for this but have found it intimidating and just haven't gotten 'round to it yet (is very easy w/MF to make such a disc).

MultiAVCHD is really pretty simple and straight forward once you try it a few times. I think you should give it a shot, and then give some feedback on your experience laserfan.

[deank]

I wonder if it's possible to ID the specific offset, then use BDEdit to adjust the times. Probably a lot of work!?

You can see the IN TIME in BDEdit, and you can change it via HEX editor. I posted about this some time ago here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=147516).

MultiAVCHD is really pretty simple and straight forward once you try it a few times.

It became a bit tough to use, but usually works with all set to default :)

[crl2007]

@deank It's a surprise for me too that it works with the original clpi and mpls, but that's the only way to keep the pop-up menu on this discs.

As I said, he should have had problems with chapters, IN-END Time, but not with the pop-up in this style.

Yeah, multiavchd is very useful, but it does not keep the menu. Maybe deank will do a miracle and puts together a remuxer for IGS components. :D

Or you can leave it w/o menu, and zapp through chapters directly from your player's remote control.

[deank]

Yeah, multiavchd is very useful, but it does not keep the menu. Maybe deank will do a miracle and puts together a remuxer for IGS components. :D

Extending multiAVCHD's options is limitless, so it is a task for 2010... A lot of things are to come with the next major version, it is that it takes a bit more for a one-man-team :) like mine.

[laserfan]

You can see the IN TIME in BDEdit, and you can change it via HEX editor. I posted about this some time ago here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=147516).
In this picture the marker is at the start of the in-point and the out-point is in red (019BFCC0 - 01C5D266) = 60.926 seconds. Blanking it from 60sec to 1sec would require to add 0xAFC8 (which is 1000ms or 45kHz clicks/s) to 0x019BFCC0 (which is the in_point), resulting in out_point= 019CAC88
Thanks, I remember that thread, and I'm afraid your comments are at least several meters over my head! ;)

I'm gonna look real hard at multiAVCHD over the holidays...

[deank]

@deank It's a surprise for me too that it works with the original clpi and mpls, but that's the only way to keep the pop-up menu on this discs.

As I said, he should have had problems with chapters, IN-END Time, but not with the pop-up in this style.

I was really mistaken about tsMuxeR IN_TIME.. it is 10minutes, not 11.650 seconds... I don't know what confused me earlier... Like in the quote above:

0x019BFCC0 / 0xAFC8 = 600 seconds = 10 minutes.

Most commercial discs have IN-TIME of 00:00:11.650 (0x07FFFF), that's why the guide doesn't really work with all discs without HEX editing.

***

I ripped my first Blu-ray disc today (Ghost Rider), using my Playstation3's Yellow Dog Linux and decrypted it with the trial of AnyDVDHD...

The disc is purely HDMV authored (no Java) and by using the 'transcode' in multiAVCHD I got the movie only AVCHD version in just 2 hours :) in 1280x720 ~ 4.4GB to play it in my PS3 with the external HDD, without the need of the blu-ray disc. Although it is a function of multiAVCHD for almost an year - it was the 1st time I tried it :)

Then with some playlist tweaks I got the original POP-UP/MAIN menu working in my FAT32 AVCHD compilation :) It is not really easy to automate the process in multiAVCHD when multiple titles are used, but for one-title-compilation it may be much easier.

Here is what happened (you can see that the ripped disc is now converted to 1280x720:) ):

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_popUP.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_popUP2.jpg

[Capsbackup]

Very nice deank, this looks encouraging!
Is there a procedure/tutorial you can share as to how to go about this?

[deank]

Basically it is down to using the original blu-ray disc files and replacing the main movie with the reencoded one, editing the original .mpls file to set new in/out times and chapter points. Of course this works when the menu is in a separate m2ts file and the main movie is in one m2ts file.

***

Sadly, pop-up menu doesn't work in AVCHD mode (tested in Playstation3). It works in TMT and Nero, but not in PS3. The original main menu works just fine.

***

Now the cool part... as a by-product of my attempts I successfully created MOTION MENU + AUDIO in multiAVCHD!

[crl2007]

Basically it is down to using the original blu-ray disc files and replacing the main movie with the reencoded one, editing the original .mpls file to set new in/out times and chapter points. Of course this works when the menu is in a separate m2ts file and the main movie is in one m2ts file.

Just as I said in my guide, but I am for keeping the original ones with IGS and replacing them with java based menus. It is much easier to replace than hex edit, especially if you don't know jack about hex. The functionality remains the same I see. In AVCHD mode the pop-up doesn't work either way.

Sadly, pop-up menu doesn't work in AVCHD mode (tested in Playstation3). It works in TMT and Nero, but not in PS3. The original main menu works just fine.

So this was pio's problem all along.

Now, I have an idea, if it's possible of course:

To implement something like this in multiavchd. Open bdmv folder - goes to streams ( video + audio + subtitles ) - replace whatever you want, the chapters to be read directly from bdedit, all the replacing to be done automatically and in the end to have a fully functional BD with a fully functional menu.

[Blinky7]

Hi there. I am pretty much testing the same stuff as you. I wanted to replace some useless (to me) subs with Greek ones while keeping the menus, and I started with the simple idea to ask TSmuxer to give an m2ts file as an export file, and get that file to replace the original movie file in the BD folder. Very simploe and it actually worked for a movie. But failed the next 3 I tried..... so I understood that the CLPI and MPLS files are linked with the M2TS file and are important too, and while searching I gound your guide.

Well, my own testing has given me these results :
If the movie has Java popup menu (my test movie was Dodgeball) then you can replace all 3 files (m2ts-clpi-mpls) and you are fine. If the popup is not Java, then replacing only the m2ts file didnt work for either of my 2 test movies (Wedding Crashers and Notebook). After trial and error I found out you need to keep the original mpls file, but replace both the m2ts and the clpi file for it to work. This way it worked for both. Because I want to find a universal method that workes for both BDjava menu movies and the rest, I then tried Dodgeball again, this time keeping hte original mpls file (to see if changing the clpi and m2ts is enough for ALL movies to work OK and then this could be considered a universal approachm, something good for a guide, even if a step is unnecessary for some movies).
Well, it worked, but I noticed the chapters were not working correctly. I initially thought about the advice you gave to Mamaki earlier in this thread, about TSmuxer reading the chapter times incorrectly. But that was not the case. Then I thought it could be a problem with BD-java movies because before I replaced the clpi file they worked great, but going to check Wedding crashers and Notebook, I saw the same problem existed there too. So it didnt have to do with the type of movie, it was just introduced when changing the CLPI file, something that was necessary for non-java movies.

What is the problem you ask? Well, whenever you go to a point in the movie between 0 and 10mins, it always starts the movie from the begining. The chapter info is correct, but simply going to the first 2 chapters (which are typically below 10mins) you get the movie begining. Even if I press with my mouse on the bar of powerdvd at any point below the 10min mark I see the movie from the begining. The timing on powerdvd is not affected mind you....for example if I press on the 7th minute, the timing will go to 00:07:00/01:34:42 and move up from there on, but the video being played will be the start of the movie.

By the above trial and error procedure, it's clear that it has to do with the CLPI file and that there is this magical limit of 10mins up to which it does not work correctly....

Does this happen to you? Any ideas?

[deank]

In AVCHD mode the pop-up doesn't work either way.

So this was pio's problem all along.

Now, I have an idea, if it's possible of course:

I wanted to say that it doesn't work in AVCHD played from USB drive. It is possible that it will work if burned to a DVD disc, but I'll test it later.

Hi there. I am pretty much testing the same stuff as you. ... What is the problem you ask? Well, whenever you go to a point in the movie between 0 and 10mins, it always starts the movie from the begining. The chapter info is correct, but simply going to the first 2 chapters (which are typically below 10mins) you get the movie begining.

Does this happen to you? Any ideas?

It is caused by the default IN_TIME which tsMuxeR uses (00:10:00.000) and it is different than the one from the original blu-ray disc. To get it working correctly, you need to change the values in the .mpls file.

[crl2007]

This could be a good method, but who knows hex ? :) All the discs I're reauthored ( 70 discs ), all worked fine with replacing or keeping the original mpls and clpi. I believe it to be much easier to replace them or to keep them there than editing in hex.

[Blinky7]

It is caused by the default IN_TIME which tsMuxeR uses (00:10:00.000) and it is different than the one from the original blu-ray disc. To get it working correctly, you need to change the values in the .mpls file.

And how to change that?
Also, how is it that the mpls file needs changing, when actually the original one is kept? I dont get this problem when using the new mpls-clpi files, only when keeping the original mpls but using the new clpi file form tsmuxer...

[Blinky7]

OK, actually, checking the original MPLS file and hte one generated by TSmuxer I did notice this 10min difference. It's as if all chapters have been moved to +10mins in the tsmuxer output. Problem is, I am using the original MPLS anyway that is correct.....so the problem lies with the M2TS output file from TSmuxer that is created to be compatible with this +10min delay. It is my understanding, that the M2TS file needs to be tinkered with in order to work with the original MPLS (and possibly the CLPI too?).....is there some way to change the timmings in the m2ts?

[Blinky7]

Since tsmuxer screws this by adding 10mins to every chapter, I tried to fix this by manually setting chapters to -10mins in the chapter list before muxing. Unfortunately it didnt recognize negative numbers, so the first 2 chapters were wrong in the final file (as in, it took -10mins , understood it as 10 and so it set the first chapter to 20mins). From chapters 3 and on they are correct, but the first 2 and the time_in/out are stil incorrect.

[crl2007]

The easiest fix is to replace the original mpls with the remuxed one. How many times do I have to repeat myself ? Except IGS movies, in order to have pop-up menu you have to keep the original one. If the first 2 chapters are wrong, you just simple get the chapters raported by bdedit. This is the easiest method.

This is how tsMuxer reads chapters from playlist:

00:00:00.000
00:05:28.494
00:12:13.941
00:14:57.146
00:18:43.205
00:22:30.515
00:27:36.029
00:32:04.631
00:37:48.224
00:44:48.352
00:49:31.760
00:54:55.375
01:00:00.305
01:03:09.660
01:05:57.161
01:09:13.691
01:14:00.102
01:21:09.781
01:26:31.477
01:33:37.403
01:39:57.324
01:43:16.273
01:48:24.748
01:52:30.118
01:56:53.673
02:02:11.741
02:08:33.539
02:15:00.300
02:19:08.048
02:23:54.125
02:33:30.659


And this is how BDEdit reads them:

00:00:00.000
00:00:05.005
00:01:16.993
00:02:02.956
00:02:39.993
00:02:58.011
00:04:31.980
00:04:55.003
00:05:28.494
00:05:31.956
00:06:41.192
00:07:08.928
00:07:35.246
00:08:33.095
00:09:39.954
00:11:20.262
00:11:51.419
00:12:13.941
00:12:14.400
00:13:37.983
00:14:32.997
00:14:57.146
00:15:10.951
00:16:19.937
00:17:13.323
00:17:38.891
00:18:43.205
00:18:46.291
00:19:04.643
00:19:17.447
00:20:44.159
00:21:22.990
00:22:30.515
00:23:16.603
00:26:16.950
00:27:06.916
00:27:36.029
00:28:46.975
00:29:13.752
00:30:22.779
00:31:01.609
00:32:04.631
00:32:08.968
00:32:23.983
00:34:11.966
00:37:48.224
00:38:45.990
00:39:42.671
00:41:02.042
00:41:21.979
00:42:30.047
00:44:48.352
00:47:53.996
00:49:31.760
00:50:07.587
00:50:24.730
00:51:05.729
00:51:47.020
00:52:38.989
00:53:44.012
00:54:55.375
00:55:35.540
00:56:35.975
00:58:26.920
01:00:00.305
01:00:01.973
01:01:55.002
01:03:09.660
01:03:43.110
01:04:04.966
01:05:57.161
01:06:02.917
01:09:13.691
01:11:24.196
01:12:58.957
01:14:00.102
01:14:22.958
01:18:10.602
01:19:03.905
01:19:26.970
01:20:47.008
01:21:09.781
01:25:01.012
01:26:31.477
01:31:56.010
01:32:50.022
01:33:37.403
01:37:29.927
01:39:57.324
01:42:42.489
01:43:16.273
01:43:22.988
01:44:15.332
01:46:13.367
01:46:29.966
01:48:24.748
01:48:43.975
01:52:30.118
01:54:30.989
01:56:53.673
01:57:11.941
01:59:37.962
02:01:14.976
02:02:07.403
02:02:11.741
02:03:02.041
02:07:06.994
02:07:41.654
02:08:33.539
02:09:38.604
02:10:21.522
02:15:00.300
02:15:12.104
02:15:47.055
02:17:31.952
02:18:17.914
02:19:08.048
02:21:51.711
02:23:54.125
02:33:30.659

As you can see, you can't go wrong when it comes to bdedit. Comparisons are made on the same mpls.

[Blinky7]

I don't think you understood the problem.
Let's see some facts :

1) TSmuxer reads the chapters correctly
2) I DO keep the original MPLS because I want pop-up menu, I only replace the m2ts and clipinf files.
3) The resulting bluray has working menu but the timing problem mentioned.

Since the mpls is the original one! the problem lies with the m2ts file exported from TSmuxer I believe. The mpls and the m2ts are somehow connected in how chapters are handled, so using the NEW m2ts with the original mpls does not "sync" as far as chapters go.

Using the new mpls kind of works, because I guess the timming screw-up TSmuxer does to the m2ts file, is also done to the mpls, so they sync....but hten you get no menu....

So, the way I see it, the solution is not to tinker with the mpls, since its the original one anyway, its to tinker with the resulting M2TS filr from tsmuxer so it comes out "correctly".

Here is the example of my movie testing. The movie is Wedding Crashers Uncorked edition.

I ran the mpls files through a program that reads them and here is the result :

Original MPLS :

File Size: 586 bytes


Time_IN 00:00:11.651
Time_OUT 02:07:12.431
Duration 02:07:00.780

CH 0 00:00:11.651
CH 1 00:03:51.203
CH 2 00:15:36.616
CH 3 00:23:58.451
CH 4 00:39:22.416
CH 5 00:44:12.873
CH 6 00:49:31.733
CH 7 00:53:02.694
CH 8 00:59:24.241
CH 9 01:06:34.296
CH 10 01:12:12.968
CH 11 01:19:16.808
CH 12 01:22:07.729
CH 13 01:26:31.158
CH 14 01:29:04.604
CH 15 01:35:30.239
CH 16 01:41:19.170
CH 17 01:48:06.536
CH 18 01:53:30.776
CH 19 02:01:01.268
CH 20 02:07:12.180

TSMuxer output MPLS :

File Size: 530 bytes


Time_IN 00:10:00.000
Time_OUT 02:17:00.768
Duration 02:07:00.768

CH 0 00:10:00.000
CH 1 00:13:39.552
CH 2 00:25:24.965
CH 3 00:33:46.800
CH 4 00:49:10.765
CH 5 00:54:01.221
CH 6 00:59:20.082
CH 7 01:02:51.042
CH 8 01:09:12.590
CH 9 01:16:22.645
CH 10 01:22:01.317
CH 11 01:29:05.157
CH 12 01:31:56.077
CH 13 01:36:19.507
CH 14 01:38:52.952
CH 15 01:45:18.587
CH 16 01:51:07.519
CH 17 01:57:54.885
CH 18 02:03:19.125
CH 19 02:10:49.617
CH 20 02:17:00.529

My understanding is, that the treatment done from tsmuxer to the output mpls, is also done to the output m2ts file and thus when those 2 are used together they work fine. But using the new m2ts with the old mpls that has correct timmings obviously does not work...

[laserfan]

@deank you were successful replacing a re-encoded main movie into the original BDMV structure? And that re-encoded feature was output as .m2ts by tsMuxeR?

Basically it is down to using the original blu-ray disc files and replacing the main movie with the reencoded one, editing the original .mpls file to set new in/out times and chapter points. Of course this works when the menu is in a separate m2ts file and the main movie is in one m2ts file.

Am I correct in assuming that the editing you did on the "original .mpls file" was to ADD 10 minutes to the original's IN and OUT times, and each of the Chapter start points? And did you also copy-over from tsMuxeR's output the new clpi files?

I finally sat down and figured-out your HEX math and am going to try this myself...

[deank]

@deank you were successful replacing a re-encoded main movie into the original BDMV structure? And that re-encoded feature was output as .m2ts by tsMuxeR?



Am I correct in assuming that the editing you did on the "original .mpls file" was to ADD 10 minutes to the original's IN and OUT times, and each of the Chapter start points? And did you also copy-over from tsMuxeR's output the new clpi files?

I finally sat down and figured-out your HEX math and am going to try this myself...

You're right... But it is not by adding 10mins, but for example:

original in time is: 00:00:11.650
tsmuxer in time is: 00:10:00.000

so you need to add 00:10:00.000 - 00:00:11.650 = 00:08:48.350 = (8x60 + 48 + 0.350) * 1000 * 45 = 23775750 = 0x016ACA06

or in other words, HEX add 0x016ACA06 to all chapters and change original in/out times in the original mpls file.

[Blinky7]

I found this little program that can help you avoid the HEXing. I used it and set the IN time of my original MPLS file to 10mins (600 seconds as it asks in seconds) and my movie and hcapters and popup menu work great now!
Check it out, it will help you too I believe avoid HEX editing :

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41722

[crl2007]

Again, why is this easier than replacing the original mpls ? Or putting the chapters from bdedit in tsMuxer if the chapters get screwed ?

readmpls.exe crashed when it started to read the chapters in this mpls from above. And it starts the chapters from that in time.

Orig TimeIN: 01:09:58.000 This is the original in time on this mpls. The edited mpls holds the same information as the original one. Only with IGS menus you have to keep the original mpls, but it's ok because if the chapters get screwed up, you can put them from bdedit directly. But if it is easier for you to do lots of unnecessary operations, feel free.

[Blinky7]

It's not easier. But
1)Replacing the original mpls makes my popup menu not work
2)TSmuxer reads the chapters perfectly fine, inserting them from BDedit would do nothing, they are exactly the same. It's the output files you get that are screwed by being +10mins and you can do nothing about that

[crl2007]

Where exactly doesn't your pop-up work ? In a standalone player ? PS3 ? Because on TMT and Nero works fine the way I do it. If it works for standalone players, feel free to write a few words in what people should do if they have standalones and I will introduce that in the guide.

As you can see above, the original mpls has Orig TimeIN: 01:09:58.000. And after I have edited the disc, the edited one has 10:00.000, but the chapters are playing fine and the pop-up the same. On software players like PowerDVD 9, TMT and Nero. If you discovered this glitch for standalone players, let's put it in the guide. But if it is for software players too, I'm afraid that is an extra hassle.

[Blinky7]

I am not using TMT anymore, although I was using it for the past year, I want bitstream HD audio now and only powerdvd can do that. So I am using Powerdvd 9 and in all those tests I am forced to create an ISO after I finish editing to be able to run the bluray with powerdvd. So I am not using a standalone player, but maybe because of the way powerdvd works (ISO loading) it emulates the situation better than TMT?

Bottomline is, I tested, and with Wedding Crashers and Notebook, if I replace the original MPLS file, there is no popup menu. If I edit the timings on this original file, then everything works great. It's as if this original MPLS has some extra info about the menu that are lost if you use the TSmuxer exported one.

I also tried this with Dodgeball that has a Java menu (and was working OK even if original MPLS was replaced) and it worked great too. So I see this as a good universal approach :
Steps :
1) Read bluray folder with BDinfo to find your movie m2ts/mpls
2) TSmuxer this mpls to bluray output
3) Replace movie m2ts and clpi with the remuxed ones
4) Edit movie mpls adding 10mins to the timming
5) IMGburn to ISO and load

For BD Java movies, replacing the mpls with the new one is good enough and there is no need for editing the existing one. But it's not that much more of a hassle, and having a universal way is important when writing a guide.
Did this for all my 3 movies and the result is terrific. Gonna go try some more now.

If you want, try using PowerDVD and turning your folder to ISO....I think this is where the difference lies and why I cant get menu without the original MPLS. And if this turns out true, then it could probably be the reason also for standalone players not viewing the menu...

[crl2007]

I believe that this coud be a great approach for IGS menu blu-rays. It could be a unique solution. Wedding Crashers and Notebook I know they have IGS menu and it's great if it works like this. I'll put thit method in my guide right now, but only for IGS menus. If you have java and other stuff related in the same m2ts, tsmuxer will not keep them in the m2ts, and therefore replacing is the best way. I'll make some screenshots. Please stay around about half an hour and tell me if how I present the method is ok.

[laserfan]

I found this little program that can help you avoid the HEXing. I used it and set the IN time of my original MPLS file to 10mins (600 seconds as it asks in seconds) and my movie and hcapters and popup menu work great now!
Check it out, it will help you too I believe avoid HEX editing :

http://forums.sagetv.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41722
When I try their link, I get a "Slow Down!" message and it won't let me download it. Tried two browsers...maybe you have to be a member & logged-on? Does anyone know the magic, or another location for this util?

[Blinky7]

When I try their link, I get a "Slow Down!" message and it won't let me download it. Tried two browsers...maybe you have to be a member & logged-on? Does anyone know the magic, or another location for this util?

I am not a member and I downloaded it fine a few hours ago. I even tried the link again now and it started the download.....u were probably unlucky with server traffic or something, try again...

[crl2007]

Done, included in the guide. There is something that I forgot ?

@laserfan The download worked great here too.

[laserfan]

Bah, my ISP must be causing the problem; just can't get it for some reason. :(

[deank]

When I try their link, I get a "Slow Down!" message and it won't let me download it. Tried two browsers...maybe you have to be a member & logged-on? Does anyone know the magic, or another location for this util?

Here you go: http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/MPLS_Tools_v0_2.zip

[laserfan]

Here you go: http://multiAVCHD.deanbg.com/MPLS_Tools_v0_2.zip
Thank you!!! You are a gentleman as well as a scholar! ;)

You're right... But it is not by adding 10mins, but for example:

original in time is: 00:00:11.650
tsmuxer in time is: 00:10:00.000

so you need to add 00:10:00.000 - 00:00:11.650 = 00:08:48.350 = (8x60 + 48 + 0.350) * 1000 * 45 = 23775750 = 0x016ACA06

or in other words, HEX add 0x016ACA06 to all chapters and change original in/out times in the original mpls file.
It's actually a 9:48.350 difference but I get your drift! I'll try it! :)

:thanks:

[Blinky7]

Done, included in the guide. There is something that I forgot ?

@laserfan The download worked great here too.

looks great ;)

I am going to try fixing a movie with multiple m2ts files. Obviously the result of TSmuxer will be one big M2TS, and the movie should play fine using the tsmuxer generated mpls (which shouldnt be a problem as the IGS menu movies all use 1 large m2ts file right? so it cant be IGS...). However, if you want to retain both the Rated/Unrated versions playable, I see this failing, unless you fix each seperately.....but then you will end up with 2 big M2TS files that probably ownt even fit in a BD-50...

Is there any way we can make tsmuxer output the M2TS files as they are in the source (with added subs of course) and not as a single big file?

Messing with Jennifer's Body right now...

[crl2007]

@deank Why the 11 seconds difference ? tsMuxer uses 10:00.000, the original discs INTime varies from 11.650 to anything.

@Blinky7 Those discs are seamless branched. You can't keep both versions or Maximum Movie Mode ( not that someone is interested to see the movie with actors commentaries ) for that mather too. It's extremely tough to edit a seamless branched dvd, not to mention a full blu-ray. So, it's impossible. Yes, the ones with IGS menu linked directly to a m2ts are on a single m2ts. Sadly, blu-ray authoring, demuxers, remuxers are scarse, only a few people continue to do something in this direction, deank is one of them and the guys at smartlabs too.

[deank]

@deank Why the 11 seconds difference ? tsMuxer uses 10:00.000, the original discs INTime varies from 11.650 to anything.

Most blu-rays have intime of 00:00:11.650... once you remux with tsmuxer and keep the original mpls you will have the media file (m2ts) with new PTS (presentation time stamps) starting from 00:10:00.000. Each 192 byte packet in the m2ts file starts with a PTS, so you either have to change ALL packets inside a m2ts file or the easier way - to change the mpls file. Taking into account the original blu-ray disc's IN-TIME and the well known NERO/tsMuxeR in-time of 10mins you do the math... you substract 11.650s from 10mins and you get 9mins 48secs 350ms ( :) 10x laserfan ) to add to all chapters/in/out times in the original mpls file.

And about branched discs... Playlist files ARE the thing. You can do virtually anything by creating/editing movie playlists (mpls). It is tough to do it with a HEX editor, but it is fun :)

[crl2007]

I understand what you want to do with that substraction, to get it to 10 minutes from 11.650, and this is correct, but when we have an INTime of 1 hour, those 10 minutes are ok to add. But with 11.650, you shouldn't transform in 10:11.650 ? Going on the same principle. Blinky's test shows exactly this.

[deank]

...with 11.650, you shouldn't transform in 10:11.650 ? Going on the same principle. Blinky's test shows exactly this.

I'm pretty good at math I think...

You would've been right, if tsMuxeR's in_time was 00:10:11.650, then you'd have 10mins difference, but that's not the case.

If original in_time is more than 10mins (like you said 1 hour?!) then you do the same math and ADD.

[Blinky7]

You are correct Deank in your math.
However, If using the FixMPLS program mentioned earlier, there is no need for math because it only asks you when you want to set the IN_Time and then it does the math by itself to adjust every chapter accordingly. So you just need to enter 600seconds (10mins) because this is the IN_Time TS_Muxer enforces.
BTW I've noticed the program does some miscalculations and misses a couple miliseconds here and there, which is weird, but negligible anyway in the result...

[deank]

You are correct Deank in your math.
However, If using the FixMPLS program mentioned earlier, there is no need for math...

Yep... I know about the tool for some time now, but never used it, because I was planing to publish a full featured MPLS editor... Sadly, I had too much other things to do.

About the 'miscalculations' - in/out times are not that precise (~ 100ms), so it is unavoidable. :)

Dean

[crl2007]

If the in time is over an hour, why should I do the same 11.650 math ? What you are saying is to modify the in time of the original mpls to 10 minutes. Anyway, you can't add 59 minutes. It's simply too much.

By your math: 1:00:00.000 - 10:00.000 = 50:00.000 And it would mean -50:00.000 and negative values aren't supported. Or maybe I'm a little bit slow at the moment, it's 3 AM here.

@Blinky7 When those discs that you've tested worked, you put there 600 seconds ? Or you add those 600 seconds to the existing INTime? Because if you put 600 seconds, you modify the INTime of the original mpls to 10 minutes, the same as the edited one. In this case, deank is right. The differences are accordingly. In the guide, I wrote that you add those 600 seconds, but maybe I made a mistake and should have written that you change the INTime to 10 minutes.

@deank An MPLS editor with all features would be incredible. That would be really awesome. The posibility to set in time, out time, to change language streams, etc... AWESOME. Maybe a full branched disc could be reauthored with a fully functional menu. Obviously, IGS parts won't be kept as long as tsmuxer does not support them.

[Blinky7]

@Blinky7 When those discs that you've tested worked, you put there 600 seconds ? Or you add those 600 seconds to the existing INTime? Because if you put 600 seconds, you modify the INTime of the original mpls to 10 minutes, the same as the edited one. In this case, deank is right. The differences are accordingly. In the guide, I wrote that you add those 600 seconds, but maybe I made a mistake and should have written that you change the INTime to 10 minutes.

I change the in_time to 10minutes. No adding and stuff. After all, the utility just asks you for a new IN_time. Then it calculates itself and adjusts the chapter timmings accordingly.

I compared the resulting MPLS times with the one created from tsmuxer and they are almost the same....1-3 miliseconds lost here and there, nothing important. That's why it works good then with the chapters

[crl2007]

So I've been arguing with deank for nothing. He was right all along.

4) Edit movie mpls adding 10mins to the timming

I understood from you that you added those 600 seconds to the existing INTime. I will modify this in my guide.

LE: I've modified the guide too, look on the first page and see if I overlooked something.

[laserfan]

I ripped my first Blu-ray disc today (Ghost Rider), using my Playstation3's Yellow Dog Linux and decrypted it with the trial of AnyDVDHD...

The disc is purely HDMV authored (no Java) and by using the 'transcode' in multiAVCHD I got the movie only AVCHD version in just 2 hours :) in 1280x720 ~ 4.4GB to play it in my PS3 with the external HDD, without the need of the blu-ray disc. Although it is a function of multiAVCHD for almost an year - it was the 1st time I tried it :)

Then with some playlist tweaks I got the original POP-UP/MAIN menu working in my FAT32 AVCHD compilation :) It is not really easy to automate the process in multiAVCHD when multiple titles are used, but for one-title-compilation it may be much easier.

Here is what happened (you can see that the ripped disc is now converted to 1280x720:) ):

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_popUP.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_popUP2.jpg

I haven't had time to test this myself yet, so please indulge me one more question: When you re-made (converted to 1280x720 then remuxed) the feature here, did you also retain all the subs, or did you strip some out? Just wondering if this can be done and the thing still plays, or if the playback chokes cuz it's missing subs (or audios).

Seems to me one could replace any number of m2ts files with "blanks" (e.g. 1 second of blank video) and then modify the mpls' as discussed here, and end-up with a disc that's got menu and chapters but no other unwanted extras...?

@crl2007 sorry this is slightly off-topic but your technique is exposing other opportunities!

[Capsbackup]

Seems to me one could replace any number of m2ts files with "blanks" (e.g. 1 second of blank video) and then modify the mpls' as discussed here, and end-up with a disc that's got menu and chapters but no other unwanted extras...?

@crl2007 sorry this is slightly off-topic but your technique is exposing other opportunities!
This would certainly get my attention too! ( and also sorry crl2007)

[crl2007]

@laserfan I don't mind, as long as we all find ways to better and easier edit our disc collection. If you remove tracks, the rest of them are automatically "upped" and you need to modify the mpls accordingly. You need to remove them from mpls too. For now, this operations can only be made from hex edit. And if you are not a programmer, hex edit is extremely tough. Although, you can replace those tracks with 1 second dummies and it's fully functional. As for other effects, there are none, except this stream order.

And yes, you can replace any m2ts with a 1 second video and modify the mpls with fixmpls. There is no choke. I tried something like this a long time ago, but with the original extras m2ts split.

I used DGSplit to split those m2ts in 1 MB sections. The disc reads through them and the trailers etc. are gone.

[deank]

@laserfan:

I extracted the subtitles I need (English and Bulgarian), resized them to 720p and used the files (as .sup/PGS) in the remuxed blu-ray. I also removed all audio streams (except english) and all subtitle tracks (and added external).

Since English is #1 and Bulgarian is #2 (in the language/popup menu) - the disc works perfectly, switching subtitles and playing the audio. I had no time to completely edit the playlist to remove all 'broken' links to missing audio/subtitle streams, but it does not affect the playback in any way.

Seems to me one could replace any number of m2ts files with "blanks"

I described this in the other thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=147516) and it is simply done by using the original mpls with edited in/out times and new (1 second blank) m2ts/clpi.

[crl2007]

@deank Man, you know hex edit, we can see there just a bunch of numbers and letters. :) If you could make a tutorial for the rest of us who are idiots when it comes to hex, it would be great. Honestly, when you say something about hex, we just see a bunch of numbers written but with no meaning for us. :)

[deank]

I will, scout's promise :)

[Capsbackup]

@deank Man, you know hex edit, we can see there just a bunch of numbers and letters. :) If you could make a tutorial for the rest of us who are idiots when it comes to hex, it would be great. Honestly, when you say something about hex, we just see a bunch of numbers written but with no meaning for us. :)

Agree completely here! May as well be another language :confused:( haha, it is! )

[laserfan]

I had no time to completely edit the playlist to remove all 'broken' links to missing audio/subtitle streams, but it does not affect the playback in any way.That's what I was curious about, thanks for confirming.

FWIW I made a spreadsheet to convert HEX to H:M:S.MS and back again. It's still tedious to find/fix entries; I use/like HxD:

http://mh-nexus.de/en/

[crl2007]

I've been thinking a little about branched discs and the ones with IGS elements. I don't think that it is possible to keep both theatrical and Uncut version or Maximum Movie Mode ( IGS elements ) by editing the mpls. First of all, every m2ts has it's very own INTime and sometimes, they have only a few seconds. You can't add 10 minutes INTime to a 10 seconds m2ts. Second you'll have to determine the chapters for every m2ts and there can't be multiple m2ts files with the same INTime. Third you'll have to split subs for every single m2ts and sync for each part. There is no remuxer for IGS elements.

Maybe, in the future, tsMuxer will be able to keep the original structure of a playlist, editing every file by its own and not as a whole. Or maybe multiavchd will be able to do that. And that bmp exporting/importing that we've discussed.

LE: @deank If you agree, I'll do all the work when it comes to a branched disc and you just hexedit the mpls. It is worth a try, maybe we can reauthor tv series if our little experiment is a succes. But when I'll find one an I'll have a little time off. Do you think it's worth it ? The work I mean.

[Blinky7]

For the time being, I think keeping both versions of a movie (theatrical/extended) can be done by working the same way for both versions and just putting both new m2ts/mpls/cli files int he existing BD structure. Assuming you delete the m2ts files that are now contained in the 2 huge M2TS files, and assuming there is no more than 2 versions of the movie, you should be able to keep it under 50gb most times, to be able to fit in a BD-50.
It would be tricky though if both versions start with the same m2ts file (00003.m2ts for example, and there are differences later on teh playlist). I guess you could keep the original mpls names (00003 and 00004 lets say....) and when you export the 2nd version from tsmuxer ask it to load 00004.m2ts instead of 00003. Since we will be using the new mpls files it should work I guess.

Well, I just did Hannah Montana the movie (BD-java single m2ts) and it worked great again. Now I am experimenting with Jennifer's Body which is multi-m2ts structure. The first tries didnt work. It's a tricky movie because the BDinfo shows 2 versions, one with 1.47mins and one with 1.42 mins but in the menu there is nowhere the choice to choose version...
Then, looking at the m2ts file order of being played from mpls, it's really weird. I expected both playlists to be about the same with the larger one having 2-3 more m2ts files added in some points. But the 1.47min version playlist has one extra m2ts file between each original file....its weird.
Its like playlist 1 is :
00411
00412
00413
00414
...
00421
00422

and playlist 2 is :
00411
00390
00412
00391
00413
00392
00414
00393
...

Do you make any sense out of it?

Also, I used clownBD to demux the files and received one large m2ts and all the other audio-subtitle files. I loaded them in the same sequence in tsmuxer and added my own subs but the result didnt work as expected. Dunno why......gonna go experiment more now...

[crl2007]

These are branched discs. The 1:47 minutes is the UNCUT version. It can't be done as these ones, only with clown BD and replacing the original clpi and mpls. This is what I was saying in my previous post. You only get to keep one. Some discs have 2 large m2ts, one for each version of the movie, but the majority are branched. So, clown BD + tsMuxer + replacing.

Most often the choice to select the version is when you hit the play button. It will open a submenu with : Theatrical, Unrated etc. When I wrote the guide, I wrote to replace the original mpls with some reason. I've tested about 100 discs ( 70+ ) before I dared to write a line in here. So I think it's pretty documentated. So, in majority of cases is best to replace the mpls. In cases of IGS menu, is best to keep them, or to edit the original mpls with 10 minutes INTime.

LE: You have 2 mpls, so you'll have to replace them both. You will rename 0000x.mpls resulted from tsmuxer to 0000y.mpls and replace the mpls with the theatrical version. This thing is done so that the disc won't choke or stop if you hit by mistake theatrical version button in the menu. You will have to delete the remainin m2ts files, aswell as the corresponding clpi files. This is just for BDInfo purposes. If you don't do that, the disc won't be recognized by bdinfo. And for space for that reason, you can't have all those unuseful m2ts files lying around.

[Blinky7]

ye, I am just curious as to the way those playlists are. I actually wrote it wrong before.
Its like :

Version 1

1
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9

Version 2
21
2
23
4
25
6
27
8
29

....does it make any sense? its not like version2 has some added files that would be like edited/cut scenes. It's liek every other file it uses a different one...does not make much sense to me. Right now I am making an ISO of the original BD just to watch is and see which version it auto-plays and if there is any choice in the menu/popup menu to change version that I missed...

[crl2007]

Yes, it makes sense, those extra m2ts are the extended scenes. As you see, instead of seven is 27, an extended cut of the same scene. That's why they are called branched.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seamless_branching To understand better what seamless branching is.

[Blinky7]

well, I watched the origina\l bluray and there is no way to access the version2.....unless there is an easter egg or something....

I also watch the first m2ts of each version and it seems its almost the same stuff (5secs difference) but arranged a little differently. For example,version 1 starts with a scene in a house and showing the name of the movie, actors etc, and after 3 mins it goes to a scene in a clinic. In version 2 it starts from the clinic and later on it goes to the same scene in the house.....
Weird stuff, what's the point if you can't access version2 from the menus anyway? whatever, I'g gonna work with version1 since it seems the intended one to play and the one I got subs for.

[deank]

After I'm done with the animated menu in multiAVCHD I'll try to post a tool (which will be included in multiAVCHD's package) remuxBD - it should be able to do all discussed in this thread + blanking unwanted features (for Blu-ray HDMV only with IGS/POP-UP menus muxed as a separate m2ts or for Blu-ray BD-J with java menus).

I created a small pcopy.exe (partial copy) tool yesterday, which allows me to create 100% copies of original blu-ray discs (using just 2-3 mins of the actual blu-ray video files) and thus suitable for performing quick tests (getting a 50GB disc down to 1GB).

I also believe that it is possible to convert Blu-ray HDMV discs to Playstation 3 FAT32 limited USB storage (avchd) by splitting the main movie in 4gb chunks and recreating playlist and clipinfo files. :eek: But that will be something to play with further down the road. The idea is to keep everything 100% the same, but apply the changes only to playlists/clipinfo files linked to media files (m2ts) bigger than 4GB. :)

[crl2007]

@deank Maybe that tool can include this guide too, to be one click mode, so to speak. A few weeks ago you said that it would be possible to automate this guide. It would be excellent ( and I think I am not the only one who thinks this ) that remuxBD to incorporate this method of remuxing discs. It is possible for tsmuxer to split to 4 GB files and create the corresponding mpls/clpi. It will be just a thing of replacing the original ones.

http://thumbnails27.imagebam.com/6190/f9c9ae61898024.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/f9c9ae61898024) I have a BD that I was going to remux after the holidays, to add my subtitle and I'll try this and report mpls/clpi mode of creation. Maybe I'll try it even tomorrow, if I'm not too drunk after New Year's eve. :)

[deank]

@deank Maybe that tool can include this guide too, to be one click mode, so to speak. A few weeks ago you said that it would be possible to automate this guide.

I'm not really sure what your request is. I'll either publish remuxBD or add the functionality to multiAVCHD (which has most of the things ready to use - like adding/removing streams).

It would require user to remove unwanted streams, add external if desired and one will get a new folder with the newly remuxed blu-ray structure, ready to burn (without any changes to the original folder).

For example while testing, I got my Ghost Rider Blu-ray from 40+GB to 23GB (with original menus and popups and all), suitable for burning to BD25 and all in less than 30mins.

[crl2007]

With that tool incorporated in mutiavchd to be a new TAB, only for re-authoring blu-ray discs, to make use of tsmuxer with the same sets of operations described in this guide. So people can:

Replace subtitle streams;
Replace audio streams;
Remove unwanted trailers and other commercials;
Set as first play the menu;
The subtitle stream to be converted by the same system tsMuxer uses.
Change IN_OUT tine of mpls and calculate for the rest of the chapters.
Set the number of mpls and m2ts to be created and linked in the mpls and clpi.

Basically, a new section of multiavchd called Disc Re-Authoring.

Or, better yet, the standalone tool to do all that.

On the other hand, it is possible to automate your GUIDE with a simple tool that will do everything that you described.

LE: I've tested the split function in tsMuxer. Works like a charm. The way I did it:

1. Inserted original mpls in tsmuxer.
2. Replaced the subtitle stream I wanted.
3. In Split & Cut I chose Split by size every 4 GB.
4. In Blu-Ray Tab I chose the number of the original mpls, in my case 10 and ( this is very important so the m2ts name files won't overlap ) as first m2ts file a number that I don't have in my stream folder ( 800 ).
5. It resulted from a 11 gb m2ts: 3 m2ts files ( 00800, 00801, 00802 ), one mpls ( 00010 ) and 3 clpi files ( 00800, 00801, 00802 ).
6. I deleted the original m2ts, mpls and clpi file and I've replaced them with the resulted ones.
7. The disc works like a charm, everything is functional, menus, pop-ups, chapters, everything.

The only limitation that I see is that pop-up menus won't work anymore for IGS menu discs, because with splitting we will be forced to replace the original mpls and clpi. Here, maybe you will find an easier way to copy the pop-up information from the original mpls to the edited one without the need of hex editing. So I dare to say that it can be done for PS3 too, with this little IGS problem. Java menus will work either way.

[deank]

Okay :) Let's go further... Send me the original mpls file and the new one and I'll try to send you an edited one, which should make pop-up work.

[crl2007]

That you will have to wait till I'll get my hands on an IGS menu disc. This one was a java one. I'll search one these days and I'll send the edited and original mpls for you to do hex magic on them. :D

[deank]

Well it is not just HEX is such cases, but still :)

Don't worry - I'll try it on my blu-ray title... I just have ~10GB free space left in all of my drives and am not able to do a complete remux at the moment...

Surely I'll find some more space tomorrow and will give it a try, then will let you know. I think it will all work :) anyway.

[crl2007]

If you do succeed with your IGS title, then you must continue these steps



JAVA BASED MENUS:

1. Inserted original mpls in tsmuxer.
2. Replaced the subtitle stream I wanted.
3. In Split & Cut I chose Split by size every 4 GB.
4. In Blu-Ray Tab I chose the number of the original mpls, in my case 10 and ( this is very important so the m2ts name files won't overlap ) as first m2ts file a number that I don't have in my stream folder ( 800 ).
5. It resulted from a 11 gb m2ts: 3 m2ts files ( 00800, 00801, 00802 ), one mpls ( 00010 ) and 3 clpi files ( 00800, 00801, 00802 ).
6. I deleted the original m2ts, mpls and clpi file and I've replaced them with the resulted ones.
7. The disc works like a charm, everything is functional, menus, pop-ups, chapters, everything.

IGS BASED MENUS:

@work by deank


And we'll have a simple method for PS3 owners too. That's why I like doom9 forum, everybody works together.

[deank]

It will work, because I already did it with the re-encoded to 1280x720 main title/movie...

I decided to try it now with the original video before going out... But that's even easier than the one I posted about few days ago :) The problem is that pop-up won't work in PS3 when AVCHD mode is engaged (but it will work if you burn to a BD25/BD50 disc).

[crl2007]

Yeah, that's the goal, to re-author it as a BD5/BD9 and not as AVCHD. In order to do that ( after achieving the desired size ) the steps I wrote are the easiest way to do it. Of course, it is for you to fill the hole for mpls editing, to copy the pop-up information from the original mpls in the edited one. And, ofc, to teach us all how to transfer that information.

[deank]

Oh, no... We're not going for BD5/BD9. There is a great application already - BD-Rebuilder. What I'm trying to accomplish is to get an original Blu-ray disc reauthored with blanked features to fit a BD25 without any re-encoding and just in few minutes *plus* the ability to transfer it to a USB HDD for Playstation3.

***

edit: Yep, it worked just fine and the POP-UP menu appeared just fine after I edited the new mpls :)

In fact, I did it in reverse :) - just used the original full-movie playlist, split @4GB, edited the mpls to get the IGS popup, and copied menu m2ts+clpi. This way I got a pure movie-only version of Ghost Rider with stripped unwanted streams, but with functioning menu (pop-up in this case, which is full featured main menu minus features selection) :)

[Capsbackup]

Oh, no... We're not going for BD5/BD9. There is a great application already - BD-Rebuilder. What I'm trying to accomplish is to get an original Blu-ray disc reauthored with blanked features to fit a BD25 without any re-encoding and just in few minutes *plus* the ability to transfer it to a USB HDD for Playstation3.

***

edit: Yep, it worked just fine and the POP-UP menu appeared just fine after I edited the new mpls :)

In fact, I did it in reverse :) - just used the original full-movie playlist, split @4GB, edited the mpls to get the IGS popup, and copied menu m2ts+clpi. This way I got a pure movie-only version of Ghost Rider with stripped unwanted streams, but with functioning menu (pop-up in this case, which is full featured main menu minus features selection) :)

Excellent deank, this is certainly a feature I find interesting and curious to try out. I will be watching ( and reading :p ) , waiting patiently ( :rolleyes: ) to test!

[crl2007]

That MPLS edit is a great achievement. I hope you will release the mpls editor and remuxBD as standalone applications. And if it works on PS3, it is clear that it will work on every standalone bd player. Maybe, until you post the app, you will complete those steps started by me with the method to edit the mpls for split @ 4 GB ( for IGS menu ). Of course, everybody should know that all that has been discussed here is for separate m2ts menu, not for menu included in the same m2ts as the movie.



JAVA BASED MENUS:

1. Inserted original mpls in tsmuxer.
2. Replaced the subtitle stream I wanted.
3. In Split & Cut I chose Split by size every 4 GB.
4. In Blu-Ray Tab I chose the number of the original mpls, in my case 10 and ( this is very important so the m2ts name files won't overlap ) as first m2ts file a number that I don't have in my stream folder ( 800 ).
5. It resulted from a 11 gb m2ts: 3 m2ts files ( 00800, 00801, 00802 ), one mpls ( 00010 ) and 3 clpi files ( 00800, 00801, 00802 ).
6. I deleted the original m2ts, mpls and clpi file and I've replaced them with the resulted ones.
7. The disc works like a charm, everything is functional, menus, pop-ups, chapters, everything.

IGS BASED MENUS:

8. ... Feel free to fill in the gaps. :D

LE: I've tried on a java based disc to copy: menu m2ts, menu playlist and clpi, java scripts ( as you did with IGS ), but turns out that isn't working for java based discs. Java calls for specific playlists to be played and if these mpls aren't played, it doesn't skip to the next one. To be able to skip them, you'll have to edit the java code, to set as first play the menu mpls, or modify the IN_OUT time of every trailer, advertisement or warning mpls. Turns out that IGS menu based are more permissive ( although the menu can't be edited ) than java ones. I'll try later to make a trio for replacement ( blank m2ts, blank mpls and blank clpi ) and see if it works correctly.

HAPPY NEW YEAR! :D

LLE: I report success.

This is how my BD looks like after my try:

http://thumbnails23.imagebam.com/6198/b1cbaa61976411.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/b1cbaa61976411) http://thumbnails20.imagebam.com/6198/30d4b161976414.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/30d4b161976414) http://thumbnails23.imagebam.com/6198/710f7761976416.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/710f7761976416)

I have a fully functional BD without annoying trailers and warnings and extras. I replaced all the mpls files, because I don't want for it to stop when I accidentally play an extra or the movie has warnings after play. The blank video has 458ms. I've added my 11111 m2ts file and clpi and it is like a dream, all works fine. If I play an extra while watching the movie, this blank video enters for 458ms and then the movie returns. Just like the original behavior. It is important to keep the correct mpls sequence because if a mpls has no video correspondent, then the playback stops, it doesn't skip to the next mpls.

I uploaded here (http://fbx.ro/sxdjx8scbhsldsvj) an archive with blank m2ts and the clpi+mpls files for everyone to use on their java BD's. The size is about 6 kb. The original BD had 33.75GB and mine has 10,7GB ( it's a 30 minute cartoon ).

[crl2007]

Sry, double post.

[deank]

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_rea1.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_rea2.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_rea4.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_rea3.jpg

It was easier to implement it in multiAVCHD. User can alter all playlists (adding/removing audio/subtitle streams or editing chapters) or transcode some of them or blank playlists (like trailers, warnings, etc...) I guess I'll release a test build next week for you guys to check it.

:)

[Capsbackup]

This looks Great!! Very simple, straight forward. I will be happy to test and report my experience. Looking forward to it! :)

[crl2007]

Looking forward to it too. :D I'm glad you are not like other programmers and you like to experiment with new things. This fact will make multiavchd one of the greatest software on the market.

PS: Have you had any luck with the part that we've discussed over private messages ?

[deank]

Well I did few tests and it seems the 'blanking' feature now works perfectly :) I have limited video material to test with, so I'd appreciate your input once I upload the test version (later).

I know that it is not possible to make a bug-free blanking/re-authoring tool in just 3 or 4 days but it is a start (and it works in my PS3, Nero and TMT).

:rolleyes:

[crl2007]

Yes, I, personally, will test with every single disc that cames in my hands and will report eventual bugs.

As for what we've talked on PM, those are the files that need editing, hcf ones. I deleted a sequence and the letters in the menu started to shift. English was SHFTRSDF, etc. This is a new kind of java menu that calls strips of fonts. Have you tried something ? In that archive sent by me you will find a fully working menu.

[deank]

I'm ready with the 'transcoding' part, too... So now user can blank features and even transcode playlists (resize from 1920x1080 to 1280x720 or else...) or reencode features to lower bitrates.

One thing left is the IGS subpath and I guess it will be ready later today :)

At the moment all m2ts, mpls and clpi files are correctly processed, numbered and everything... Original chapters are preserved, too.

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[15:49:53] Selected output mode: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)


[15:49:53] Entering Blu-ray re-author mode...
[15:49:53] *** Transferring structure...
[15:49:54] *** Processing media files...
[15:49:54] *** Remuxing playlist [00052.mpls]
[15:49:54] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[15:49:54] M2TS stream split set at 30MiB...
[15:49:55] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[15:49:55] Detected resolution: 1920x1080
[15:49:55] Detected video: V_MPEG-2 (TID#4113)
[15:49:55] Only this video track will be kept!
[15:49:55] Detected media file: 00053.m2ts
[15:49:55] Using audio: A_LPCM (ID#4352 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[15:49:55] Using audio: A_LPCM (ID#4353 / language: spa / delay: 0)
[15:49:55] Using audio: A_LPCM (ID#4354 / language: spa / delay: 0)
[15:49:55] Using audio: A_LPCM (ID#4355 / language: cat / delay: 0)
[15:49:55] Using audio: A_LPCM (ID#4356 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[15:49:55] Using audio: A_LPCM (ID#4357 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[15:49:55] Using subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[15:49:55] Using subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: spa
[15:49:55] Using subtitles: ID#4610:S_HDMV/PGS Language: por
[15:49:55] Using subtitles: ID#4611:S_HDMV/PGS Language: spa
[15:49:55] Using subtitles: ID#4612:S_HDMV/PGS Language: spa
[15:49:55] Using subtitles: ID#4613:S_HDMV/PGS Language: por
[15:49:55] Using subtitles: ID#4614:S_HDMV/PGS Language: por
[15:49:55] Using subtitles: ID#4615:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[15:49:55] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[15:50:09] *** Remux completed!

[15:50:09] *** Remuxing playlist [00065.mpls]
[15:50:09] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[15:50:09] M2TS stream split set at 30MiB...
[15:50:09] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:03:00
[15:50:09] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[15:50:09] Detected resolution: 1920x1080
[15:50:09] Detected video: V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC (TID#4113)
[15:50:09] Only this video track will be kept!
[15:50:10] Detected media file: 00066.m2ts
[15:50:10] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4352 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[15:50:10] Using subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[15:50:10] Using subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: bul
[15:50:10] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[15:50:31] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[15:50:31] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[15:50:31] *** Initiating video encoding:
[15:50:31] *** Original : 1920x1080
[15:50:31] *** Crop : 0
[15:50:31] *** Resize : 1280x720
[15:50:31] *** Uncrop to : 1280x720
[15:50:31] *** Sharpen : 0
[15:50:31] *** Bitrate : 5173 kbps
[15:50:31] *** Level : 4
[15:50:31] *** Quality : One pass (insane)
[15:50:31] *** SAR : 1:1
[15:50:31] *** DAR : 1280x720
[15:50:31] *** Profile : Blu-ray

[15:50:31] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:03:00]
[15:54:32] *** Speed : 17.94 fps (elapsed: 00:04:00 - Realtime x 0.75)

[15:54:32] *** Transcoding successful!

[15:54:33] Detected frame reference count: 0 (max:9).
[15:54:33] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 1280x720, fps=23.976, ref=0
[15:54:33] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4352)
[15:54:33] Detected subtitles: ID#4608:S_HDMV/PGS Language: eng
[15:54:33] Detected subtitles: ID#4609:S_HDMV/PGS Language: bul
[15:54:33] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[15:54:33] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:03:00
[15:54:33] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[15:54:33] Media split set at 30MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@4.0 Resolution: 1280:720p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
H264 bitstream changed: insert SPS/PPS units
Decoding PGS stream (track 3): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 4): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Processed 4316 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 29 sec
===============================================================================
[15:55:02] *** Remux completed!

[15:55:05] *** Remuxing playlist [00068.mpls]
[15:55:05] Generating meta file for tsMuxer...
[15:55:05] M2TS stream split set at 30MiB...
[15:55:05] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:00:10
[15:55:06] SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
[15:55:06] Detected resolution: 1920x1080
[15:55:06] Detected video: V_MPEG-2 (TID#4113)
[15:55:06] Only this video track will be kept!
[15:55:06] Detected media file: 00070.m2ts
[15:55:06] Using audio: A_AC3 (ID#4352 / language: eng / delay: 0)
[15:55:06] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[15:55:07] This title is marked for reencoding / uncropping...
[15:55:07] Encoding process may take 10 min to 10 hours, so be patient...

[15:55:07] *** Initiating video encoding:
[15:55:07] *** Original : 1920x1080
[15:55:07] *** Crop : 0
[15:55:07] *** Resize : 720x480
[15:55:07] *** Uncrop to : 720x480
[15:55:07] *** Sharpen : 0
[15:55:07] *** Bitrate : 1994 kbps
[15:55:07] *** Level : 3
[15:55:07] *** Quality : One pass (insane)
[15:55:07] *** SAR : 40:33
[15:55:07] *** DAR : 853x480
[15:55:07] *** Profile : Blu-ray

[15:55:07] *** Encoding : One pass - content: [00:00:10]
[15:55:25] *** Speed : 17.15 fps (elapsed: 00:00:17 - Realtime x 0.57)

[15:55:25] *** Transcoding successful!

[15:55:25] Detected frame reference count: 0 (max:16).
[15:55:25] Detected video: ID#0:V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC 720x480, fps=29.970, ref=0
[15:55:25] Display properties: 853x480 (AR:1.78)
[15:55:25] Adding AC3 audio track (ID#4352)
[15:55:25] Total of 2 tracks found in this file.
[15:55:25] Title is trimmed: 00:00:00 - 00:00:10
[15:55:25] Creating clip and playlist info (tsMuxeR)...
[15:55:25] Media split set at 30MiB point...

tsMuxeR (Version 1.10.6) output:
===============================================================================
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@3.0 Resolution: 720:480i Frame rate: 29.9701
H.264 manual setted fps not equal stream fps. Change H.264 fps from 29.9701 to 29.97
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 192Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
Processed 299 video frames
Creation of Blu-ray playlist
Creation of Blu-ray stream info and seek index
Mux successful complete.
Muxing time: 2 sec
===============================================================================
[15:55:27] *** Remux completed!


[15:55:44] Re-authoring completed...
[15:55:44] Setting FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[15:55:45] Done!

Compilation summary:
Format: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)
Name : multiAVCHD
===============================================================================
===============================================================================
Output size : 625 MiB (0.61 GiB)

[15:55:47] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_123 folder created (AVCHD/Blu-ray output)!
[15:55:47] Rename D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_123 to AVCHD and copy it to root of USB stick/disk or to X:\PRIVATE\ of SDHC/SD/MMC card.
[15:55:47] You may now remove temp folder (D:\_TEMP\).
[15:55:47] Your compilation contains 0hrs 0min 0sec of video material.

[15:55:47] multiAVCHD finished in 353 seconds (00:05:53)!

[15:55:47] End of log.

Plus it does the cool thing of 4GB split for Playstation3 :) (in the example above the split is set to 30mb so the original playlist is split into 10-15 small m2ts files)

[crl2007]

Excellent news. Looking forward to test it.

[deank]

Download multiAVCHD_724RC.rar (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_724RC.rar) (Mirror #2) (http://92.247.11.202/sub/multiAVCHD_724RC.rar) (166KB) and extract it in your multiAVCHD folder. Start it and do not update if asked.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_rea724-1.jpg

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_rea724-2.jpg

1) Drag/Load a Blu-ray disc folder and answer to the prompt with OK to enter "Blu-ray re-author mode".
2) Wait for the initial scan to complete (a good idea is to 'save' the project once the scan is done - this way you won't have to wait the next time you want to load the folder)
3) Open "Properties" of one of the playlists
4) Re-author your disc by doing at least one of the following:

* Blank 'fbi warnings', extras, intros, etc... (do not change the trim_end value of 1.033 - it has special meaning for blanking)
* Add/remove tracks to your main movie or features
* Cut/Trim END of a feature/main movie
* Transcode main movie or a feature

In Re-author mode it all depends on the changes you will make. In other words - if you don't change anything you will get 1:1 copy of your original blu-ray disc.

You cannot add titles (files, playlists, etc) or remove existing playlists in re-author mode. Once in this mode you can't go back to normal authoring mode and you'll need to restart multiAVCHD.

When you browse the playlists (Compilation box) you will see information if one is marked for blanking, if it contains IGS menu as a main playitem [menu MP], or as a subpath [menu SP]. In the "Playlist" tab you should see information about main playitems, sub playitems and sub-path types and their corresponding files (for IGS and TextST).

You can't blank playlists which contain menu links, but if such a playlist is the main movie or a feature then you can 'remux' it. It will be marked as [ remux ] once you change any of its properties (i.e. cut end or add/remove tracks or transcode). If you need to blank a playlist which is linked to a menu or textST subtitle m2ts - enter 1 as trim-end. Be careful what you blank, because you may break the main menu.

Once you're done, close "Title properties", click "START" and choose:

* PLAYSTATION 3
* AVCHD disc (for DVD or BD-R)
* Blu-ray

In PS3 mode you'll get output suitable for USB HDD - it means that multiAVCHD will remux all playlists which contain playitems (m2ts) files larger than 4GB.

In AVCHD mode you will get output suitable for burning to DVD or BD-R disc. You may need to remove some folders, depending on your player specific requirements.

In Blu-ray mode you will get the same as AVCHD but with the original index.bdmv file.

Introducing such feature to multiAVCHD aims mainly to make Blu-ray discs playable in Playstation3 using USB HDD (Blu-ray disc to USB HDD) without loosing any features (except the pop-up menu, which is not supported while playing from USB). If the disc is BD-J authored, Playstation 3 will not play the USB output. If you use Blu-ray mode and burn to BD-R/RE it will work.

multiAVCHD's re-author feature is in no way replacement of or can be compared to BD-Rebuilder's great features and reliability, and is also not added with an idea for competition. It should be possible to use multiAVCHD re-authored output with BD-Rebuilder, but if you do and have problems state that you used a re-authored copy, but not the original (which would usually mean a problem within multiAVCHD, but not BD-Rebuilder).

Should your re-authored copy is bigger than 25GB BD-R disc you will need to transcode the main movie. Transcoding has the same functions as in normal authoring mode. Bitrate calculations in re-author mode may not be correct (showing higher MB/GB requirements). Transcoding to lower resolution will not resize internal PGS subtitles to the new resolution.

In re-author mode features as PIP (Picture-in-Picture) are not supported (yet). Blu-ray titles, featuring alternate endings with branched playlists may or may not work as expected (either one branch will work or you will get huge oversize, having both/all versions in the final compilation). I don't have such titles to test with. TextST (subtitles) should work.

In re-author mode you can add/remove audio tracks, convert HD audio to AC3 or use the SD core of HD streams (to save space). You can add SRT/SUB/SUP/ASS/SSA subtitles, too.

Always make sure you have enough free space and that you are using NTFS partitions for TEMP and destination folders (except when using PS3 mode - then destination can be FAT32).

That's about it.

Have in mind that I coded this feature in just 2-3 days, so it may not work as expected, but please test it with all of your Blu-ray titles and get back to me with the results.

Yours as always,
Dean :)

[Capsbackup]

I will give it a try soon, looks good! I will let you know my experience too. :)

[crl2007]

Good work man, excellent in fact. I will give you reports every time I use it.

In re-author mode features as PIP (Picture-in-Picture) are not supported (yet). It will be awesome when you will can add this feature.

[k-c-ksum]

just tried this on the bluray Bolt. Starts scanning playlist then throws up an error

"(RT) Invalid array index (50256) Valid Range (1-10000) - line 6774"

is there a log file generated that might be of help?

[alimao]

it is possible to add an audio? this new version of multiavchd? replacing an existing audio?
subtitles be possible! and audio?

[crl2007]

Same here on cloudy with a chance of meatballs. When it reaches the movie playlist gives this error.

@alimao Yes, you can do anything.

[deank]

Yep... just redownload (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_724RC.rar)the file and try again. :) There will be more failures I guess, that's why it is a RC build.

There was this stupid limit of last mpls file 10000.mpls :)

***

My latest test was to re-author (remove one LPCM audio track and use DTS Core of DTS-Master of another + blanking a 30min feature to 1 second) 40GB blu-ray title with IGS attached to all playlists, directly to FAT32 USB HDD for Playstation 3 and it took ~50mins for both processing and transferring. HDD to HDD re-authoring should take less than 20 minutes.

[k-c-ksum]

cool, trying it now. Scanning playlist fine

[crl2007]

@deank Now I will ask you again, do you think that the menu sent by me through pm can be edited ? Those hcf files contain all the information. A yes or no answer is enough.

[deank]

I'm sorry I missed that one... I wasn't able to download the file. Will try again now.

** Downloading: it says 2hrs :)

[crl2007]

Yeah, it's from Romania. :) Do you have a host where you download faster ? I will put it there.

[k-c-ksum]

(RT) stack overflow (PUSH) - line 17435"

after selecting checking out some of the playlist videos

[alimao]

not understand! to use the multiavchd? I remade a bluray, animation menu frezze .tested transformers 2
problem solved. remux the animated menu



remaining doubts. French audio for Portuguese.frances is written in streaming audio. selecting French seems Portuguese , you can not change the written menu?


DEANK, the programming genius; great program and good union crl2007 and DEANK

[deank]

(RT) stack overflow (PUSH) - line 17435"

after selecting checking out some of the playlist videos

Just click slower. Probably the preview fails when you change playlists so fast - it is not related to the reauthor mode, but I changed something, so you can re-download.

@alimao: It's been just couple of hours since I published this feature. Have more patience.

[crl2007]

@alimao At the moment, only certain types of menu can be modified. And you have to do it manually, because there are so many variables that no one can code a program for re-authoring the menu.

LE: Tested with both java menus and igs menus. everything works as it should. Pure genius. even the split function for ps3 works like a charm and keeps the menu functional. Good work, deank.

[alimao]

:)Just click slower. Probably the preview fails when you change playlists so fast - it is not related to the reauthor mode, but I changed something, so you can re-download.

My server is kind of down at the moment, so you can download it from here (http://rapidshare.com/files/331364988/multiAVCHD_724RC.rar).

@alimao: It's been just couple of hours since I published this feature. Have more patience.

Yes, I have patience. just thought could not or was not knowing how to
nothing to complain! great job!

crl2007 ok now I get it! is complicated! does a wonderful job now
you two !! :)

:thanks:

[k-c-ksum]

not sure if it my system but going through each video takes anything upto a minute to refresh and load the next segment. Ram related? i only have 2gig

[deank]

No, it is related to the splitter for m2ts files.

Uninstall HAALI SPLITTER and then install it again, but make sure you check the boxes for MPEG-TS and MPEG-PS processing.

Let us know if this fixes it.

[k-c-ksum]

tried that, its still really slow. Its quicker for me to preview a bunch of m2ts im media player classic while multiavchd is opening 1. Is there any way to blank a bunch of segments rather than open them 1 at a time, blank, open next blank and instead highlight a selection and blank multiply segments at once instead as ive already previewed the segments im media player classic.

[deank]

You can disable the preview in SETTINGS tab. I guess you're not using a network copy of your BD or reading it directly from the bd-rom drive... Such problem as yours is usually related to a really slow computer or a bad chain of filters/splitter for the video graph via directshow.

[cwh060]

@deank,

Tried the new version with Harry Potter 6.

First I ran the movie through BDRB to resize it down to 23G.

I blanked out four titles, 3 warnings and a commercial trailer. Removed one of the 2CH audio tracks from the main movie. I checked each title and 1.033 was added properly to each blanked title. Set the output to AVCHD, MultiAVCHD went through the process of creating the folder structure and sized the m2ts files properly (4G). Everything looked correct in the output folder.

Copied the AVCHD folder to my USB (32G). Started playback on my PS3 player, it played the Warner logo fine, then it stoped with "Cannot play back this video, press O". This is the point where the commercial trailer is supposed to be played.

I am going to try this again, will report back any findings.

cwh

[Capsbackup]

Yep... just redownload (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_724RC.rar)the file and try again. :) There will be more failures I guess, that's why it is a RC build.
There was this stupid limit of last mpls file 10000.mpls :)


Unable to download, this link is not working. Anyone else having this issue?

[alimao]

good news. remade the bluray of Transformers 2 and adding audio in Portuguese instead of French. burned in a BR-R DL 50giga and running perfect on my device sony S360 and Sony PS3

[deank]

Unable to download, this link is not working. Anyone else having this issue?

Mirror #2 (http://92.247.11.202/sub/multiAVCHD_724RC.rar)

good news. remade the bluray of Transformers 2 and adding audio in Portuguese instead of French... running perfect on my device sony S360 and Sony PS3

Thanks for the test.

@cwh060: The error may be caused by the way blanking is applied. Try without blanking all, but just some of the warning videos. Does the compilation play in your PC/Nero/TMT? Re-download the .rar before you try again. Also try not to 'blank' a title, but to use Trim End: 1. There were some important changes/fixes in the last few hours, so please re-download the application.

[crl2007]

@k-c-ksum At my end everything works with the speed of light. Every playlist is analyzed in a few seconds, even less and the whole process ( blanking, adding an external subtitle ) took about 26 minutes. As deank said, your problem originates from filters/splitters or a slow computer.

http://thumbnails20.imagebam.com/6270/2d4f9c62698726.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/2d4f9c62698726) As you can see, on another disc, 25 gb = 14 minutes to blank unwanted trailers, intros and to add a subtitle stream.

@deank solved with the preview too. Installed K-lite. I was running on minimal filters ( ffdshow + haali + coreavc ).

[k-c-ksum]

You can disable the preview in SETTINGS tab. I guess you're not using a network copy of your BD or reading it directly from the bd-rom drive... Such problem as yours is usually related to a really slow computer or a bad chain of filters/splitter for the video graph via directshow.

ripped to hd with anydvd. using 2.4 core2 quad. the segments play fine in multiavchd but take a long time for the next clip appear, pc becomes very unstable at this time.

[k-c-ksum]

getting this error on the bluray rebuild

RT) Invalid array index (50173) Valid Range (1-10000) - line 13753

[deank]

Ok, redownload (http://92.247.11.202/sub/multiAVCHD_724RC.rar). It is another 10000 restriction.

[k-c-ksum]

went back and started from scratch., uninstalled codec pack as it was an old install from before i upgraded to windows 7. Now i can fly through the blanking preview :) rebuild is going well also :)

[crl2007]

I finished a guide to go with this new version. It will be posted when the official build will be released.

[Capsbackup]

Tested my first title, both with blank and Trim End: 1, but neither method would remove/eliminate the playback of the warning and another advert. Tried several times, and though the interface is straight forward, I could not seem to achieve success.
With blanking and Trim End 1, the .m2ts file size was reduced, but the original picture/warning is still present in the .m2ts, not a black/blank picture .m2ts. Thus, when playing back the movie, the warning and advert was still visible, though for what appeared to be a shorter period of time than the original.
I will try another movie and see if I can have better results.

[deank]

With blanking and Trim End 1, the .m2ts file size was reduced, but the original picture/warning is still present in the .m2ts, not a black/blank picture .m2ts. Thus, when playing back the movie, the warning and advert was still visible, though for what appeared to be a shorter period of time than the original.

This is intentional and the original m2ts is not replaced with black-video, but such blanked playlists are cut to 0.062 (0.033 in latest exe) seconds and this is really short. For how long these warnings/adverts played?

I'm more interested if the re-mux part works and if the disc plays after the changes. I'll change the blanking method once I'm sure other things work.

Make sure to download the exe (http://92.247.11.202/sub/multiAVCHD_724RC.rar)before each test.

[jefrey]

i did the "Le Doberman" full BD remux and added dts audio to disc, and it works like a charm :devil:

[deank]

In the latest (http://92.247.11.202/sub/multiAVCHD_724RC.rar)update you have 2 more features added:

* Reorder PGS streams (subtitle) - use it when you replace internal subtitles with external to keep menu functionality

For example if you have playlist with 4 subtitle tracks:

1 ENG
2 FRA
3 DEU
4 BUL

and you want to replace FRA subtitles with external, add external .srt/.sup file and go to "PGS order" tab, then move the external file UP in 2nd place to have 3 DEU and 4 BUL...

* Blank internal audio tracks - it will save a lot of space and will keep menu functioning. At the moment audio is replaced with short 'welcome' sound (~5 seconds AC3).

[cwh060]

Ok, so I've completed a number of tests using version 724 (both the older and newer versions all along).

Source = BDRebuilder output at 23G - Movie - Harry Potter 6.

The good news, all versions of multiAVCHD work fine when using BluRay output and then burning to a BD-RE. Playback works fine trailers and warning are all skipped as they should be and the main menu comes up. I've looked at the structure with BDEdit and the time_in and time_out values are applied.

The bad news (at least for me) is that every version when processing an AVCHD folder for PS3 comes up with "This video cannot be played" once it reaches title 05. I have tried, blanking, remuxing and even a straight through without any blanking or remuxing. Each try aborts on title 05. It is one of the warning titles, not the trailer as I suspected.

There is nothing special about this title, it looks exactly the same as the other warnings. 23.022 time, 1920x1080p and 23.976fps.

cwh

[deank]

Without remuxing and it fails?

In PS3 mode m2ts files from 4GB+ playlists are numbered differently (not as in the original)... I tried 2 titles and they both play in my PS3 without any error. "Video cannot be played" - broken file... Can you play it in your computer?

Since PS3 functionality is important for me - I'll try to investigate more. Please try another disc and let me know. I just don't have much to test with. I don't have blu-ray burner and the only way to watch blu-rays is by using multiAVCHD re-author to transfer them to USB HDD.

Also - can you try to import this BDMV folder and process it in normal mode (answer with NO at the prompt for re-authoring mode).

[cwh060]

Sure, I will try and process it normally. Takes a bit to process and then transfer to my 32G USB.

Unfortuneately, I don't have any playback software on my computer. I simply use Media Player Classic x64 if I need to watch anything and select the MTS/M2TS file.

After my last post I went back and tried a couple more things. The current AVCHD folder on my USB stick has the unedited output. I replaced the MTS file with a 1sec blank video file (same characteristics) and then HEX edited the MPL adding AFC8 to 019BFCC0. The result was the same, so I'm thinking this has something to do with a BDJ object than an HDMV?

When playing the BluRay disc, the screen comes up with a picture of a disc playing before it hits the main menu. This is probably where it's failing. The 05 title might be after this. I'm not great with BDEdit reading the command structure, but this BDJ object appears to be called after some of the inital playback titles (warnings, trailer etc.)

cwh

[deank]

In PS3 mode you'll get output suitable for USB HDD - it means that multiAVCHD will remux all playlists which contain playitems (m2ts) files larger than 4GB.

...

Introducing such feature to multiAVCHD aims mainly to make Blu-ray discs playable in Playstation3 using USB HDD (Blu-ray disc to USB HDD) without loosing any features (except the pop-up menu, which is not supported while playing from USB).

If the disc is BD-J authored, Playstation 3 will not play the USB output. If you use Blu-ray mode and burn to BD-R/RE it will work.


******

Java (BD-J) is not supported in AVCHD playback mode in Playstation3 (be it DVD or USB).

I guess I'll add a warning and/or will disable PLAYSTATION 3 button if multiAVCHD detects that the disc has BD-J titles.

[cwh060]

Sorry, I should have looked at the structure first. I knew BD-J wasn't available in USB output! My own fault.

...a warning followed by the only avaialbe options to process the disc using the menu creation tool in multiAVCHD and then AVCHD output.

cwh

[deank]

Sorry, I should have looked at the structure first. I knew BD-J wasn't available in USB output! My own fault.

...a warning followed by the only avaialbe options to process the disc using the menu creation tool in multiAVCHD and then AVCHD output.

cwh

Yes... It is added in the latest update. There will be a prompt if the disc is BD-J and if the user intends to use it in PS3 USB HDD mode.

[cwh060]

Yes... It is added in the latest update.

Hm, I just tried this version. In the latest update you have 2 more features added:


And it started processing the Playstation 3 structure. Thank goodness you added Break/Stop! Although processing is very fast on my machine.

Did I miss one, or hasn't it been posted yet?

cwh

[deank]

The .exe link is always the same - just redownload, extract and replace multiAVCHD_724RC.exe (http://92.247.11.202/sub/multiAVCHD_724RC.rar).

The prompt for PS3 will appear only if the disc contains BD-J titles and we're talking only for the Re-author mode, not the normal authoring mode.

[Capsbackup]

This is intentional and the original m2ts is not replaced with black-video, but such blanked playlists are cut to 0.062 (0.033 in latest exe) seconds and this is really short. For how long these warnings/adverts played?

I'm more interested if the re-mux part works and if the disc plays after the changes. I'll change the blanking method once I'm sure other things work.

Make sure to download the exe (http://92.247.11.202/sub/multiAVCHD_724RC.rar)before each test.

I did not burn to BD-RE, but only tried playing back with PowerDVD and TMT3, and it all worked well. It was fast too! Original disc was 19.5GB. Reauthored was 17.6GB. Time to finish was less than 10 minutes. :)
I'll try a few more titles.
If the goal is for BD-R/RE burn/playback on my Sony S360 standalone, do I need to be concerned with Java (BD-J) type movies?

EDIT:
Sorry, just tried the latest build, message warning came up regarding PS3, clicked NO, and it is running now.

[cwh060]

Ok, I had Loaded the project rather than using the AVCHD/BDMV/DVD button, so it did not go through the scan again.

This time I used the AVCHD/BDMV/DVD button and the warning came up and indeed it will not let me blank anything. I answered YES to everything and it's now letting me Create a Playstation AVCHD output, but it did not resize down to 4mb? I hit stop, but it's still pushing through copying the m2ts files...might be a while.

[10:22:45] Checking for available space and drive types (FAT32/NTFS)...
[10:22:46] Destination [F:]: NTFS, 671169.7 MiB (655.439 GiB) free space
[10:22:46] Temp folder [C:]: NTFS, 381466.86 MiB (372.526 GiB) free space

[10:22:46] Log started for multiAVCHD v3.0 (build 724)
[10:22:46] Selected output mode: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)

[10:22:46] Processing 22 titles...
[10:22:46] Existing F:\multiOutput\AVCHD\ cannot be used as destination folder!
[10:22:46] Output will be written to: F:\multiOutput\AVCHD-20100108-102246
[10:22:46] Processing imported AVCHD/Blu-ray playlist...

[10:22:46] "Move transitional files" option is ignored!
[10:22:46] Input folder contents will be copied instead.
[10:22:46] Media transfer: 00011 -> 00000.m2ts
[10:22:47] Processing playlist...
[10:22:47] Title #1 added: "HARRY POTTER 6 "
[10:22:47] Verifying title...
[10:22:47] *** Detected main-path : [ID#0, IN: 00:10:00.000]
[10:22:49] Title has: 0 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

[deank]

@Capsbackup: No, BD-J is a concern only for people like me :) who want to backup to USB HDD for PS3.

Redownload and try the same compilation (or another). Blanking is changed and playitems are shortened more than in the previous version.

@cwh060: I'm not sure what your question is... If it is related to the normal authoring mode - please use multiAVCHD's thread. Your compilation will work in PS3 and files will be split properly at the size set in AUTHOR tab.

[cwh060]

Ok, I was just testing the import of a movie with BD-J titles, which worked fine, the warnings came up.

I then went through the process of letting multiAVCHD process a Playstation 3 AVCHD folder. The author size is set at 4000, but the output m2ts eventually came out at 22G, the spitting to 4G did not take place.

The log clearly shows output at [10:22:46] Selected output mode: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS) but the split isn't applied. Maybe I have another setting wrong somewhere.

cwh

[Capsbackup]

@Capsbackup: No, BD-J is a concern only for people like me :) who want to backup to USB HDD for PS3.

Redownload and try the same compilation (or another). Blanking is changed and playitems are shortened more than in the previous version.

Tried same title again, with new version, and everything works/plays back fine on TMT3. The warning is displayed, for approx 1 sec or less.
Perhaps playback would be different on a standalone? I could try it if you think there is a benefit.

[deank]

Ok, I was just testing the import of a movie with BD-J titles, which worked fine, the warnings came up.

I then went through the process of letting multiAVCHD process a Playstation 3 AVCHD folder. The author size is set at 4000, but the output m2ts eventually came out at 22G, the spitting to 4G did not take place.

The log clearly shows output at but the split isn't applied. Maybe I have another setting wrong somewhere.

cwh

You need to reload the folder and not use the saved project. Upon loading large playlists will be marked for full-processing with split applied. The log you posted doesn't show such thing. You can't use re-author project for normal authoring.

In normal mode titles are marked with [f] [p] [m]... in reauthor [s] [r].

Tried same title again, with new version, and everything works/plays back fine on TMT3. The warning is displayed, for approx 1 sec or less.
Perhaps playback would be different on a standalone? I could try it if you think there is a benefit.

One second is too much... All my tests (both in TMT and PS3) skip through blanked playlists really fast.

If you have BD-RE you can try and see what will happen. It is not possible to have 1 second video in these 240kb blanked m2ts files. Even mediaplayer won't play a second of them.

[Capsbackup]

One second is too much... All my tests (both in TMT and PS3) skip through blanked playlists really fast.

If you have BD-RE you can try and see what will happen. It is not possible to have 1 second video in these 240kb blanked m2ts files. Even mediaplayer won't play a second of them.

It may not be a full second, I have no way to time it, but it is definately visible on the screen for this short burst. Not really a big deal, I have been living with them on my backups now anyway, but I guess I was expecting to see nothing that is blanked. I will burn to BD-RE later, see if there is a difference on the standalone.

[deank]

I'll do something else and will try to blank these with real blank m2ts file... It is that I'm worried that the more files are changed - the greater the chance something will break - that's why I wanted to keep the original mpls/clpi/m2ts files from the blanked features, but simply cutting the video to 1 frame + adjusting mpls and clpi files. There is a blank m2ts inside multiAVCHD's package and I'll enable it.

Let me do some testing and will get back to you.

Even with that, I think the re-authoring mode works okay and I can publish it as an official 725 build.

***

Blank m2ts will not work for complex discs, so I will not enable this method.

@Capsbackup: Give it another try after you redownload (http://92.247.11.202/sub/multiAVCHD_724RC.rar)it and let me know if there is any difference. Original m2ts files are cut to ~40ms and I doubt that you would see much of the blanked stuff. At least here it is okay.

[k-c-ksum]

currently reencoding in bdrb. Dean you app managed to stip out 6 gig of un needed bloat. Top job. Now how do i edit the menus so it doest have a Sneek Peek option? :) is that possible as some menus just use text overlayed onto video

[deank]

@k-c-ksum: I'm glad it worked :)

For menu editing you'll need to wait another year I guess :) Or buy Sonic Re-Author :rolleyes: oooor... just use multiAVCHD as it is.

[deank]

multiAVCHD_724RC.exe is no longer available.

Update your regular multiAVCHD application to build 725 - RE-AUTHOR mode is now available in the official build.

Thanks to crl2007 for the guide posted here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=151925) and for the suggestions and tests during the last week. Please post your comments and problems in the guide thread, but limit only to re-author capabilities of multiAVCHD, not standard ones.

Dean

[deank]

It may not be a full second, I have no way to time it, but it is definately visible on the screen for this short burst. Not really a big deal, I have been living with them on my backups now anyway, but I guess I was expecting to see nothing that is blanked. I will burn to BD-RE later, see if there is a difference on the standalone.

Caps, did you have a chance to test with the latest (725++) build of multiAVCHD?

I added a lot of additional checks and now playlists are processed properly (I think :))

[Capsbackup]

Caps, did you have a chance to test with the latest (725++) build of multiAVCHD?

I added a lot of additional checks and now playlists are processed properly (I think :))

I did not try that version, but the previous one did shorten the warnings displayed to a quick flash with TMT3. The backup worked properly while playing back on the computer, but the burned BD-RE, while playing back on the Sony S360 standalone, would not. Well, it played thru the menu and let me select the movie, and then played the movie fine, but would not return to the main menu after completion of the movie. It just appeared to not continue, but did not stop either. It sort of "hung" in that position
I did not think I blanked anything menu related, but I may have.:o I will try that one again with the newest version.

[Capsbackup]

@deank;
I tried this same title again, this time with 726, and made certain to only blank the 3 visible warning .m2ts files. Play back was on TMT3, and there was still a noticeable warning on the screen, but it only displayed approx. 1/3 of the screen within TMT3, and only for a fairly quick moment, perhaps 1/2 second.
I tried it on another title, but I am finding it rather difficult to find all the warnings to try and blank. Apparently, some are not displayed in your preview screen, or at least some titles do not show a preview at all in the preview screen. It can be quite tedious trying to open each small .m2ts file with MPC, and then try to find the associated .mpls.
Honestly, the warnings are not that big of a deal to me, just a bit annoying. It would appear, with my limited experience, to be necessary to have a simpilar procedure to identify for certain which titles are safe to blank, and which titles are the warnings ( visible in the preview ), so as to not corrupt the original structure. ( by me :p )

[crl2007]

If a title has java, it is safe to blank all features under one minute, even if they don't have a preview. Extras will all have previews, so it is not a risk. And if those features you try to blank are important for other playlists, multiAVCHD will warn you.

[Capsbackup]

If a title has java, it is safe to blank all features under one minute, even if they don't have a preview. Extras will all have previews, so it is not a risk. And if those features you try to blank are important for other playlists, multiAVCHD will warn you.

That is good to know, but when I tried that, the BD-RE, when played back on a standalone, would not return to the main menu. TMT3 would play it back fine though. But since I dont watch movies on the computer, this is a problem.
I plan to experiment with a few other movies that I have. The problem for me is that play back from TMT3 or PowerDVD is not my ultimate goal. I burn to BDR/RE, and my burner is only 2x speed, so testing can take quite some time( approx. 45min for 25GB). And just because TMT3 or PowerDVD seems to work does not mean the same success on my standalone.;)

[Capsbackup]

Tried a completely different title, and I went thru each .m2ts/.mpls to make sure I found every warning on this disc. Blanked 7 warnings and 1 short Deluxe Digital Studios advert, and tried playing back on both TMT3 via BD folders and PowerDVD 7.3 via .ISO. Both played back with no problems, everything working perfectly. However, the warnings are still displayed on just a portion of the screen, and are visible and present for several seconds.
This is the third different movie with these results.
My thoughts are that the program/feature does seem to work and not break the disc playback, but that replacing the warning .m2ts files with a black blank one may be the only way to remove the warnings from being visible on playback.:confused:

EDIT:
Burned to BD-RE and the disc would not even start playing on my Sony S360. Only after waiting several minutes and pressing Top Menu on my remote could I get the disc to display the main menu.
After selecting play movie, the warning was displayed, though very garbeled and hardly legible, but visible for approx. 7 seconds. ( this is comparable to the original time wise. ) The movie did seem to play thru fine, and when finished, it did return to the main menu.
Again, though TMT3 and PowerDVD seem to work properly, playback on the standalone was corrupted.

[crl2007]

Try using the guide on the first page and then multiAVCHD. And put here the original, edited through this guide and edited through multiAVCHD mpls files. But be sure to blank only one feature ( the same feature ) on both discs.

This (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1358535#post1358535) is the way for manual blanking.

Maybe this way deank can see what goes wrong. Although the same blanking method is in multiAVCHD too.

[deank]

Ok, I'll try to re-write the code for blanking...

[deank]

Ok... all blanking is done by using black video... I hope this will fix the problem...

@caps: I also added another attempt to generate preview for menu/warnings m2ts files smaller than 1MB (usually one-two frames of video).

[Capsbackup]

@deank;
I tested two of the previous titles that were not working on my standalone, but did work fine with TMT3 and PowerDVD, with your latest release 726+ and I am pleased to report both work perfectly. Play back with TMT3 and PowerDVD was fine, and more important, ( at least to me :cool: ) the BD-RE playback on my Sony S360 for both was flawless! :)
No more warnings, no player hangs, beautiful.
Congrats on this accomplishment. An excellent addition to an already very good program.
I have also been testing your program with some of my TV recordings, and just recently backed up the three Lord of the Rings, HD broadcasts 1080i pulled from my Comcast HD DVR box via firewire. I did use MeGui to reencode to BD9, due to my being familiar with it, but used MultiAVCHD to compile a custom XMB menu and burned to BD media. Again, I was very pleased with the outcome.( It's just too bad TNT has to advertise and flash logos all over the screen :( )
I like the XMB style menu, and have learned how to change the location of the thumbnails, but it would be nice to be able to have them placed horizontally along the bottom or the top of the screen, to avoid overlapping with a custom menu picture.
Again great work, and it's a pleasure to test and learn some of the many features of your program. :thanks:

[deank]

Good news indeed :) Thank you for testing it!

About XMB - it is possible to add such option - I'll look into it. You can use Slide or Carousel menu styles. They have chapters at the bottom.

(I added the option.. check multiAVCHD thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1363998#post1363998))

Dean

[crl2007]

After prolonged tests and many and annoying failures, I finally devised a method for re-authoring series disc keeping the original menu. Check the first post. You can also replace audio streams, etc, all the things you want. If you want to blank trailers, warnings, insert the edited disc in multiAVCHD and check this tutorial (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=151925).

l.e. I've added a small hex edit tutorial at the end of the guide, so everyone can modify their mpls files. It is not something advanced, it's something I picked up after a day of googling and trying my ass off to understand the mechanism.

[BlackJack1]

Hi,
Tried to change subs according to guide but...
tsmuxer does not make m2ts main file like oryginal (00003.m2ts fro example) but always 00000.m2ts so it's not possible to simply replace oryginal one! The same thing is with mpls file: always 00000.mpls and not 00003.mpls as in example on the first site.
Please advice.

[crl2007]

In the Blu-Ray Tab you have First MPLS file and you choose the original mpls number and underneath you have First M2TS file and you choose the original m2ts number. It is written in the guide too.

[BlackJack1]

I'm adding mpls file contains main movie for ex. 00001.mpls to tsmuxer. Main m2ts file is 00011.m2ts. After tsmuxer done his job I've got 00000.mpls file and 00000.m2ts file !!

[crl2007]

http://thumbnails22.imagebam.com/5999/491d1059983636.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/491d1059983636) Instead of 3 and 3 you put 1 and 11.

[BlackJack1]

Thank you for help. Remuxing it's work now! :)
Last question: the number of *.clpi file to copy and paste into oryginal folder corresponds to number of mpls or m2ts file (in my example I have 00001.mpls and 00011.m2ts with main movie). Must I copy 00001.clpi or 00011.clpi? BTW in guide both have the same name :)

[crl2007]

It will make only one clpi file, 00011.clpi for the 00011.m2ts.

[k-c-ksum]

trying the remux new subtitle track for the first time, followed the guide up to a point were im not sure what to input. in your example you set first mpls 3 first m2ts 3.

if the playlist is 00001.mpls and the corresponting m2ts is 00037.m2ts then i take it i set it it to first mpls 1 first m2ts 37?

edit - should have read above :)

[k-c-ksum]

set font to cyrilic but it wont work, is there a special font set that i can use to add russian subs?

[dulejov]

I try to replace subtitle in Defiance region B, and here is some error in tsMuxer:

SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
VC-1 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding VC-1 stream (track 1): Profile: Advanced@3 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 448Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 448Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 448Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 5): Bitrate: 192Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
Decoding AC3 stream (track 6): Bitrate: 192Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
Decoding PGS stream (track 7): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 8): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 9): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 10): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding PGS stream (track 11): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:09,984. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 48Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 4
AC3 stream (track 3): bad frame detected at position00:00:09,984. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 128Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 3
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:09,984. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 3
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,016. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 32KHz Channels: 4
AC3 stream (track 3): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,018. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 112Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 4
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,018. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 128Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 4
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,050. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 512Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5
AC3 stream (track 3): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,053. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 448Kbps Sample Rate: 32KHz Channels: 2
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,064. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 192Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 5
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,082. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 56Kbps Sample Rate: 32KHz Channels: 5
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,098. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 32KHz Channels: 3
AC3 stream (track 3): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,101. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 128Kbps Sample Rate: 32KHz Channels: 3
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,130. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 160Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 3
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,146. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 64Kbps Sample Rate: 32KHz Channels: 4
AC3 stream (track 3): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,149. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 40Kbps Sample Rate: 22KHz Channels: 3
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,162. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 64Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,194. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,194. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 192Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 1
AC3 stream (track 3): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,219. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 512Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 1
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,226. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 32Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 3
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,229. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 128Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
AC3 stream (track 3): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,254. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 192Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 3
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,258. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 384Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 5
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,261. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 80Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 5
AC3 stream (track 3): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,288. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 128Kbps Sample Rate: 32KHz Channels: 5
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,293. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 112Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 3
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,293. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 32KHz Channels: 3
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,325. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 320Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 1
AC3 stream (track 3): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,336. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 48Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 3
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,341. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 96Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,360. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 160Kbps Sample Rate: 32KHz Channels: 2
AC3 stream (track 3): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,371. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 40Kbps Sample Rate: 32KHz Channels: 4
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,373. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 256Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 5
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,408. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 32Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 3
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,408. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 256Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 2
AC3 stream (track 3): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,419. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 3): Bitrate: 256Kbps Sample Rate: 44KHz Channels: 3
AC3 stream (track 2): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,443. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 2): Bitrate: 128Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 4
AC3 stream (track 4): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,443. Resync stream.
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 160Kbps Sample Rate: 16KHz Channels: 4
AC3 stream (track 3): bad frame detected at position00:00:10,454. Resync stream.

Can somebody help me, please.
Sorry for my English.
Thanks in advance

[crl2007]

It's a bug in AnyDVD HD as far as i know that corrupts some AC3 audio files. Use this tool (http://www.videohelp.com/tools?toolsearch=besplit&Submit=Search&s=&orderby=Name&hits=50&convert=&dvdauthorfeatures=) to check audio for bad streams. I recommed you to use IsoBuster to backup your discs.

[dulejov]

It's a bug in AnyDVD HD as far as i know that corrupts some AC3 audio files. Use this tool (http://www.videohelp.com/tools?toolsearch=besplit&Submit=Search&s=&orderby=Name&hits=50&convert=&dvdauthorfeatures=) to check audio for bad streams. I recommed you to use IsoBuster to backup your discs.

Thanks for Your tip. I will download IsoBuster and try.
I replace subtitle in fifth element and tomorrow will try in defiance. So, earlier You say that You can edit blu-ray menu. Can You post some guide, because I want to try this also. It is much better with edited menu.
Sorry for my English.
Thanks in advance

[rick090]

Thanks for this lovely guide. i didnt understand how do i insert a subtitle track to a seamless branching titles thu.
if someone know please help me. i got T2 Skynet edition with 3 versions!!!
Thanks :thanks:

[crl2007]

The same principle as on series discs applies. The same steps for every m2ts file.

[rick090]

The same principle as on series discs applies. The same steps for every m2ts file.

OK But those need a subtitle file for every episode. for a seamless branching movie i will need to cut the subtitle file to match every m2ts file?? or there is another method?
Thanks.

[crl2007]

Yes, you will have to cut the subtitle to match the m2ts files.

[doffot]

change english for chinese how???

http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/6644/97c1e966432080.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/97c1e966432080)

how modify menu???

[crl2007]

That is an original disc. It is sold in China.


But if you want to modify a menu, you should look in the JAR folder and edit the png files. Some of them are having png files, some a *.txt file, some of them are having all the files inside a *.jar file. You can open a *.jar file with winrar and add the modified picture with winrar too. Some of them are having *.xml files to modify. Bottom line is that only java menus can be edited. IGS ones can't be edited and there is a certain type of java that can'd be edited either, the ones that some java scripts are calling strips of fonts instead of whole words.

[doffot]

That is an original disc. It is sold in China.


But if you want to modify a menu, you should look in the JAR folder and edit the png files. Some of them are having png files, some a *.txt file, some of them are having all the files inside a *.jar file. You can open a *.jar file with winrar and add the modified picture with winrar too. Some of them are having *.xml files to modify. Bottom line is that only java menus can be edited. IGS ones can't be edited and there is a certain type of java that can'd be edited either, the ones that some java scripts are calling strips of fonts instead of whole words.


explains that they used the origina english disc and modified menu, change english for chinese

[crl2007]

I've explained you how to do this thing too.

[Borgqy]

hi ,
I have a few Blu-Rays that i want to add subtitles to , however the problem is that they dont have any subtitles on them so i cant replace them :(
Is there a way to add Subtitles to a Blu-Ray that doesnt have subtitles on them ?

[crl2007]

Yes, the same. You add your *.srt file or *.sup file and mux them.

[Borgqy]

Great thanks, got it to work.
I encountered a problem though.
The Blu-Rays im trying to sub are episodes , but they only have 1 big playlist , one has both episodes as 1 m2ts , i guess there wont be any problems if i sync the merged subs to that m2ts , however the other has the episodes as seperate m2ts (and only 1 big playlist).I tried using the mpls which worked but tsmuxer merged both m2ts as 1 m2ts and the subs were desynched from episode 2 onwards.Since there arent any single mpls for the episodes im not sure how to mux em. :(

[doffot]

I've explained you how to do this thing too.
THX, but some movie jar folder does not exist

[crl2007]

@Borgqy I've explained in the guide how to re-author series discs too. Discs that contain episodes.

@doffot Those are having IGS menu and for the time being they can't be edited.

[Borgqy]

yeah i read that , but there are no mpls for the individual episodes , theres only 1 big mpls with both episodes and the mpls for the extras.

[crl2007]

It doesn't matter, you remux the m2ts files with tsremux, you replace them + clpi files and edit the big playlist with hex edit and bdedit.

[doffot]

crl2007 thx

[crl2007]

Forgot to tell you, you take the values to put in bdedit for your big playlist file from the playlists resulted from tsmuxer.

[Borgqy]

I tried it now and the disc works.
But the Subtitles are greyed out. I added subtitles to a disc that didnt have any to replace.How can i add the subtitles in bdedit for the mpls?

[crl2007]

What do you mean they are greyed out ? They should have worked fine, the streams are controlled mainly by the clpi file ( there are no menu subtitle links for some script to use the mpls ). Have you replaced the clpi files with the ones created by tsmuxer for every m2ts that you edited?

[Borgqy]

oh sorry , i meant its greyed out in TMT as if there wouldnt be any subtitles on it. (mpls doesnt show a subtitle stream as well in bdedit since its the original mpls)

ok thanx will give it a try

[crl2007]

If you replaced the clpi files from the original folder with the ones created by tsmuxer it is impossible not to work. The clpi files have the same name as the m2ts files.

The other guide will not help you very much because you don't have individual playlists.

[Borgqy]

I did , and in bdedit the clpi shows the pgs stream.On the mpls tab in "STN Table" it shows 0 PG streams though.

edit:
Using the other guide with editing the big mpls it worked.It did output the 2 m2ts as 1 m2ts , however everything seems functional , even the popup menu. Sync etc seems fine as well.

[crl2007]

Yes, but it shouldn't have been greyed out.

And all the chapters and episodes links are functional ? It is important that those too to be functional. If so, this could be a workaround for this kind of discs.

I have never encountered such a disc.

[Borgqy]

Yeah all chapters and episode links seem to work.
Thanks for your help and thanks for the great guide :)

[crl2007]

Great, good to know. This guides rely on persons like you who share their results with various discs formats.

[k-c-ksum]

i tried this on resident evil degeneration but the video streams get remuxed in the wrong order so instead of playing the main movie it plays a secondary stream :( opening the main movie mpls in tsmuxer reveals the main movie as track 4 but after remux its track 1 :( the gui must be messing this up as it also changes the 1080 subs to 720 to match the secondary video :(

[crl2007]

I covered this in the guide. You just simply put the 1080 track first in tsmuxer.

[k-c-ksum]

I covered this in the guide. You just simply put the 1080 track first in tsmuxer.

wont that result in the extras link pointing to the wrong stream though? ill report back.

it must be possible to leave it as it is though as bdrebuilder remuxes it into the same place as the original. TSmMuxer commandline input must be more versitile than the GUI

[crl2007]

No, it won't affect anything. tsMuxer is the one that reads some mpls files wrong, and thus for the 2 video streams are reversed in the GUI.

[C2D]

Hello crl2007,

First of all thanks for posting such great tutorial! I have succeeded adding subs and changing some bluray movie menu. But now I'm having trouble with a series bluray.

So I'm trying to add a subtitle to the TV show "The Universe" - It has 3 disks, 5 episodes in each.

Here is the mpls folder of each bluray: http://i40.tinypic.com/4j2b1c.png All 3 folders look like that one. Where 0000, 0001, 0002, 0003 and 0004 mpls files correspond to episode 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. So I add the first mpls file into TSMuxer and this is what I see: http://i42.tinypic.com/i5su9z.png

So I add a subtitle (The original bluray has no subs, this new ones should still work right?), configure those tabs there and create the new files, placing em in the original directories (clipinf and stream respectively) - I do this for all the episodes in the first disk, so 5 episodes.

Then I change the INtime of every mpls file (7 files) and place em in the original directory (playlist, replacing the others). With this done until now I try to play the bluray disk, all works except the subs that are not showing up - are they supposed to show up even though I didn't do the hex edit? If yes, they didn't.

Now the hex thingy I failed to do it cause I have no "biggest mpls file" all my mpls files have the same size, so what am I supposed to do? Edit all the 5 mpls's that contain the 5 episodes?

Thanks and nice work!

[deank]

You can try to re-author your disc with multiAVCHD. It will do all the hex-thingies for you. :)

[crl2007]

Yes, here's (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=151925) the guide for multiAVCHD. It will save you the trouble for hex editing. You'll find there a section for series discs too.

[C2D]

Alright. Thanks for the answers - I'll have a look when I find some time to do so. Great work guys really :)

[x400]

i've got some anime blu-rays without subtitles that id love to try adding subs to

thanks for this thread

[vamsiklak]

Is it possible to extract subtitles from dvd and add it to bluray
what kinda software do i need to extract fromdvd if so
please help

[deank]

You can use mencoder included in tools folder of multiAVCHD with:

mencoder dvd://1 -dvd-device "D:\VIDEO_TS\" -vobsubout "subtitles" -sid 0 -nosound -o "tempfile.tmp" -ovc frameno

You'll need to change the dvd://N to the title you need to extract subtitles from and -sid N with the subtitle stream you need (0-for the 1st one, 1 for the 2nd, etc...).

Once you get the extracted idx+sub pair you can load the idx in BDsup2sub and create Blu-ray SUP file.

multiAVCHD does that when converting DVD to Blu-ray.

[crl2007]

Updated the guide. Now there is no need for hex editing.

[veggav]

In your tutorial you say that you replace an existing subtitle track.

So is it possible to add a subtitle track to a blu-ray that has no subtitles ?

[crl2007]

Yes, it is. But you'll have to modify the mpls with bdedit too.

[veggav]

Everything worked here :)

Except.. my native language is Portuguese and some letters like Ã, ç, õ does not show up, it shows like other symbols (some very strange ones).

Is there any solution for this ?

[crl2007]

You have to choose the right character encoding. For romanian special characters is Central European. Maybe for portuguese it is the same.

[veggav]

Where do I choose that ?

I've tried in tsmuxer, in the subtitles section -> font -> writing system: is selected "any". I've tried "latin" but it does not work, it goes back to "any".

So where do I choose the character encoding ?

[crl2007]

From the font settings window.

[veggav]

This font window:

http://www.imagebam.com/image/9bac3759983614

?

If this is the one you are talking about there is no option to Central European, and any other option does not work :(

Is the font window you are talking about on bdedit ?

[crl2007]

Then you'll have to set it from control panel - regional and settings.

[mrr19121970]

Edit the IN time as in the picture below for all of them ( individual episodes playlists and the big mpls containing all episodes )

This tool (http://clownbd.com/Clown_BD%20MPLS%20Builder.exe) will take care of this step for you automatically.

See here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=154574) or here (http://forum.slysoft.com/showthread.php?t=40349&page=8) for more details.

[Salehi]

OCR softwares does not support my desired language so i cant convert sub/idx to srt.
Is there any way to import sub/idx subtitles instead of srt in tsmuxer in order to add subtitles to bluray?

[crl2007]

You can use easySUP to convert your subtitles to *.sup. Or you can use my other guide with multiAVCHD.

[borivoje]

Hello

I don't think anyone posted here with a kind of problem I'm facing ... I'm using this great guide for months and never had any problems until I ran on two Universal titles (Flash Gordon & A Serious Man). Whatever combination I try with a .clpi and playlist files from the original and remuxed version (TSMuxer) with added subtitles, I can't play extras from the pop-up menu which is opened during the playback of the movie. The extras work only if I play them from the top menu and if I was not playing the movie before that. If I play the movie first, the extras won't work even if I stop the movie and try to play them from the top menu. To make them play again I have to restart Total Media Theater 3 on my PC or eject the DVD-R and put it back into my standalone. Also, I have noticed that both Total Media Theater and my standalone have a slightly longer pause then usual before playing extras.

Maybe is worthy mentioning that everything is fine when I use the original playlist fixed with ''fixmpls'' and .clpi from the remuxed version, but as soon as I run the playlist through the BDEdit (to update it with the info on added subtitle) the problem is there again.

CHEERS

[crl2007]

Just use fixmpls or BDEdit to edit in_out time and chapter marks, not both.

[borivoje]

If I don't use BDEdit to add the info on added subtitles, I can't use it because the player (Total Media Theatre or standalone) don't see the added subs. I have successfully used both fixmpls for fixing in_out time and chapter marks, and BDEdit for adding info on new subs a dozen times, but with these two Universal's titles I have problem. Also, I don't see how the in_out time and chapter marks of the main movie (which are fine in both situations - when using remuxed .clpi and playlist file or with the playlist file from the original after fixing it with fixmpls) have anything to do with the functionality of the extras.

[crl2007]

Have you used Apply to CLPI after you added those informations ?

[borivoje]

Have you used Apply to CLPI after you added those informations ?

Of course I have.

[crl2007]

Yes, that's curious. They should have nothing to do with the extras. The extras have completely different mpls and clpi files. Maybe you should adress this issue at BDEdit topic: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125903 It's clearly that something happens that the player does not like. Maybe Pelican9 can shed some light if you provide him with the original and the fixed mpls resulted after BDEdit edit.

You should try this 2 things also:

1. Skip fixmpls and use only BDEdit. You can edit the in time and BDEdit will edit the out time too and chapter marks. After that add the subtitle streams and click apply to clpi and then click save.

2. Add the streams with BDEdit first and after that use fixmpls.

It's worth a try.

[borivoje]

Hello

I was off for a few days and I'll try these 2 possible solutions as soon as I get a little time ... I'll let you know about results ...

THANKS

CHEERS

[borivoje]

I have tried both procedures and few more tricks (I tried updating two playlists, because BDInfo shows two identical playlists for the main movie (00000 and 00001), but it's not working ... It seems that information about new subtitle, added to the playlist either through remuxing with TSMuxer or by updating the original playlist with BDEdit messes up with the structure and disables the extras in case when the movie was played first. If anyone has any recent Universal title it would be helpful to try to add subtitles and see if the same problem occurs.

[borivoje]

I have ''solved'' the problem by replacing the last original subs with the new one ... But, it seems that any added subs (without removing original subs) somehow ruin the structure of these newer ''Universal'' titles ...

CHEERS

[crl2007]

Glad to know that you solved the problem.

[iwao]

Hi. I'm following applications for first page and I added sleepy hollow subtitle turkish Blu-ray Disc. iso file to my problem, works seamlessly with power dvd 10. BD-RE disc, but Blu-ray player will not open files when I transfer. predicts the menu, but the movie does not start. the sound is coming, I can see the subtitles, but no image. my sony blu-ray player BDP-s 360 region B. Where do you think could be problem. Thank you for your help.

[crl2007]

As far as I know, that Sony isn't so permissive with edited discs. I could be wrong, but try to find out more about the player.

[x400]

hey guys ive been doing a lot of searching and reading and i think i might not be good at it because i cant find an answer

how would i add subtitles to a bd disc with no original subtitles and menu is it roughly the same process described in here?

thanks

[crl2007]

It's the same process. Try and use multiAVCHD if you have no knowledge whatsoever about BD structure.

[x400]

cool thnx! :)

[ps3z]

hi,i replaced subtitle with clpi and playlist files,it works!but pop up menu deactivated,its not working,how i can resolve it?by the way,bd info no working for check the clpi and playlist files,just notifying as copy protected or files are damaged,i check it with bdedit,that was useful,thanks for nice subject and helps

"System is windows 7"

[crl2007]

You have all you need in the guide. If the pop-up does not work, do not REPLACE the mpls, just edit it with bdedit.

[Capsbackup]

I have noticed that on some original Blu ray discs, there is a pop-up chapter marker and / or timeline when fast forwarding/rewinding or chapter advances. On full movie backups with BD-RB, this is kept. However, if I want to use multiAVCHD and a custom menu, importing a movie only BD-RB AVCHD backup, or a reencoded file from another application or from multiAVCHD, this content is not preserved.
Is there a way to keep this on a multiAVCHD reencode compilation?
Is there a way to import it back into the backup?

[deank]

I have no idea what is it that you're describing. :)

[laserfan]

I have no idea what is it that you're describing. :)Seems pretty rare, but as Caps says, when you attempt a >>| (chapter advance) a graphic pops-up onscreen, with thumbnail images...

An annoying, ugly, awful thing that I can't imagine why anyone would want to retain, but then everyone's different thank heaven... :)

[crl2007]

@Capsbackup Keep the original mpls and just edit it with bdedit, to accomodate the IN_OUT times. So you will have the whole mpls structure, including those marks. This feature is quite common, but, as laserfan says, it's an ugly thing to be seen on screen. Like the ones that appear when you change audio or subtitle streams. But all these features can be kept by keeping the original mpls and just edit the IN_OUT times/PlaylistMarks with bdedit.

[deank]

I don't know what this feature is, where does it get info for these thumbnails and markers and how to 'keep' them.

I'll appreciate a sample to take a look at it. Is it a MENU element, BD-J feature or something else?

I guess in re-author mode it is kept, isn't it?

[crl2007]

BD-J feature, it's only present on BD-J menus.

[deank]

Then it means that it cannot be added as a feature in multiAVCHD in normal authoring mode, because it uses HDMV/IGS menus and not BD-J.

[Capsbackup]

Seems pretty rare, but as Caps says, when you attempt a >>| (chapter advance) a graphic pops-up onscreen, with thumbnail images...

An annoying, ugly, awful thing that I can't imagine why anyone would want to retain, but then everyone's different thank heaven... :)

:o:(
Feeling a little sheepish now!:p
I guess I am only one of the few, or only one, out there that thought some of these creative pop-ups on the main feature looked :cool:.
I am not comfortable with my capabilities using BDEdit, so I guess these will stay with full backups only.:)
Thanks for the info!

I guess in re-author mode it is kept, isn't it?
Yes, at least the several full backups I have done have kept it. :)

[crl2007]

I explained in the guide how to use BDEdit for this kind of editing in detail. With pictures too.

[Capsbackup]

I explained in the guide how to use BDEdit for this kind of editing in detail. With pictures too.

OK, I am feeling a little adventuresome! :)
I have a project on my HD now that has a full backup from BD-RB that retained this on the main movie.
I would like to:
Import that .mpls only into add video files, for the main movie.
Add my custom menu.
Add some bonus features, gag reel, making of, etc... into a new compilation with multiAVCHD.
After multiAVCHD completes this new backup, do I then substitute/replace the original mpls from BD-RB into the newly created backup from multiAVCHD?
Then use BDEdit?
Sorry if this has been discussed elswhere. :)

[crl2007]

Yes, exactly.

[ps3z]

hi,i did everything from guide,it works when i play it from menu but when i change chapters from pop up menu,playing with another language and subtitles,seems like sorting is corrupted,could exist another playlist?do you have an idea for solve it?

[laserfan]

:o:( Feeling a little sheepish now!:p
I guess I am only one of the few, or only one, out there that thought some of these creative pop-ups on the main feature looked :cool:.I did not mean to offend; we need people who "think different"! ;)

For my own part, when I make a backup, it's to get rid of all that stuff that IMO wastes bits, when all I want to do is enjoy the movie (though I do always retain chapter markes) with my custom subtitles, at an audio/video quality that is indistinguishable from the original.

If I want to see all the "fluff", then I can just rack-up the original BD (and suffer thru the trailers & warnings & logocrap thereon). :p

[Capsbackup]

I did not mean to offend; we need people who "think different"! ;)


No offense taken, and I definately fall into the category of one who "thinks differently" :p

[Capsbackup]

Yes, exactly.

Tried this, and though the movie plays just fine, no pop-up or timeline is displayed like the BD-RB full backup.
Even tried copying the BDJO and JAR contents from the original, since they are not copied over by multiAVCHD, but still no work.

Then it means that it cannot be added as a feature in multiAVCHD in normal authoring mode, because it uses HDMV/IGS menus and not BD-J.

Looks like you are correct deank!

[crl2007]

Since you use a custom menu, the BD-J functionality can't be retained. That method only works if you keep the original menu and just edit it to accommodate the replaced streams. Until now I didn't read that you make a custom menu too.

[Capsbackup]

Since you use a custom menu, the BD-J functionality can't be retained. That method only works if you keep the original menu and just edit it to accommodate the replaced streams. Until now I didn't read that you make a custom menu too.

I suspected this, but thought you may have a work around! Oh well!
Yes I do retain these when I use re-author mode to blank warnings and adverts, and this is what brought about my curiosity to retain them when using multiAVCHD and a custom menu and titles.

[crl2007]

No, once you replace the menu, the BD-J code is useless.

[ps3z]

hi,bd info no working on windows 7 64bit? while open bdmv folder gives an error " error occured while scanning playlist file"

bdinfo v.0.5.4

[crl2007]

Here it works. Windows 7 x64.

[ps3z]

Here it works. Windows 7 x64.

i tried but i getting erros,do u have any idea about it?

[ps3z]

hi everboby,i replaced subtitle a movie,but cutting from the last 10min from movie,i manage out time as 10min longer,it works but page of federal is standing longer than original time,could you suggest anything about this? by the way some movies works perfect with this arrangement.thanks for everything crl2007

[crl2007]

Don't cut the movie or cut 10 minutes from OUT time too with BDEdit.

[ps3z]

Don't cut the movie or cut 10 minutes from OUT time too with BDEdit.

i didnt cut,i mentioned it cuts itself,when i edit with tsmuxer and copy clipinf after finish all and while playing on tmt player,its happening at movie like this,and i adding 10min the last of movie in bdedit,it works well on tmt but not on ps3 as bdr media,so hard to explain it on net,thanks again

[crl2007]

It doesn't cut itself, you are doing something wrong when editing the original mpls or when inserting the original chapter marks in tsmuxer.

[ps3z]

It doesn't cut itself, you are doing something wrong when editing the original mpls or when inserting the original chapter marks in tsmuxer.

i checked manytime,jumping to next video as deluxe studios,i think this happening at this content of movie bcz of deluxe studios authoring no allowing to re-edit well ,movie started after than wait 10min. 1st shows fbi etc video after 10 min waiting even showing main movie,i have to wait 10 min allways,you can say maybe i did 10min intime etc,i didnt do nothing also it cuts around 10min from the last scene of movie and jumping to deluxe studios video file

by the way,i solve it like add 10 min last of movie for make continue the movie,its done but just fbi video standing 10min at the 1st of movie and after movie starting,normally shows this mpls file 10second in bdedit,thats all

Redited movie is Platoon

[ps3z]

by the way i didnt change any chapter marks from movie,i leave how i click to custom chapters in tsmuxer,i did right? that chapters timelines are origin of the movie?

[crl2007]

To be honest, I can't really understand what you really want to say. Your english is bad. It's not the movie's fault, it's your own. You MUST edit just the MAIN MOVIE mpls, not the extras or warnings mpls. And if you have a second video in the playlist, you just let it's IN_OUT times unedited and edit the IN_OUT time just for the MAIN MOVIE. BDEdit sets the IN_OUT time for every PlayItem individually.

[ps3z]

To be honest, I can't really understand what you really want to say. Your english is bad. It's not the movie's fault, it's your own. You MUST edit just the MAIN MOVIE mpls, not the extras or warnings mpls. And if you have a second video in the playlist, you just let it's IN_OUT times unedited and edit the IN_OUT time just for the MAIN MOVIE. BDEdit sets the IN_OUT time for every PlayItem individually.

be sure buddy,i didnt do any mistake for get faults,if i could do that,that was how u explained in forum,that authored movie cuts 10min from the last scene,i added 10 min out time of movie and playing well on tmt and powerdvd but when i record to bdr,having some problems and wont playing well on ps3 and blu-ray player like in computer,sure so hard to explain it,anyway thanks for best concern:thanks:

Note:If u interesting,you can try the platoon movie and after re author it, record to 25gb bdr and check on some players,you will see what i mentioned alltime,thats happening mostly what deluxe studio company made it

[deank]

Why don't you try to re-author the disc with multiAVCHD?

[ps3z]

Why don't you try to re-author the disc with multiAVCHD?

hi dean,i will try mutiavchd,i didnt try longtime,i remember old version of mutiavchd didnt have re author mode before,bcz i wanna keep the original menu and all contents and would to replace a subtitle,thats all,i will check the new version of multiavchd,i wish will solve my projects,thanks

[crl2007]

Use this guide: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=151925

[ps3z]

i used yesterday,it works fine,mutiavchd is improved so good,thanks dean

[crl2007]

Yes, it automatically does all the operations, so the user doesn't have to. In case of manually editing, errors can get in the way.

[ps3z]

Yes, it automatically does all the operations, so the user doesn't have to. In case of manually editing, errors can get in the way.

i dont author blu-ray in the 1st time,if i follow your guide getting some particular problems just for platoon movie,i dont say lie my brother,be sure,also i did another movies same as your guide,everything gone as fine,i say many thanks about it,but platoon movie had some errors,hard to explain on net,u have to see it for understand it,i say again thanks so much.have a nice day! :thanks:

[borivoje]

Here's a new problem or I don't have enough knowledge to do the right thing. I have two KINO International titles that have the main movie split into two m2ts files. In both cases, the first file is just 11 seconds long ''KINO International'' banner and then goes the file with the main movie. If I remux just the second file with added subtitles and replace the original one, everything is fine except the sound disappears if I skip to some other chapter or use ffd or rew options. When sound disappears I have to play the title again from the menu and don't touch anything until the end, or the sound will be gone again. I've tried to follow the instructions on how to deal with multiple m2ts files but I just can't figure it out. Also, when trying to demux the streams with CLOWN BD, which is one of the suggestions in the guide, I can't choose chapter, video, audio and sub streams if I'm using BD/HD-DVD or MPLS options, only if the M2TS/TS/EVO/MKV option is checked. I've provided two screenshots of the BDInfo and Clown BD.

http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/1412/capture1bdinfo.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/3417/capture2clownbd.jpg

CHEERS

[borivoje]

OOOPS ... Please let me know if these JPGs are too big. What to do to make them smaller?

CHEERS

[setarip_old]

@borivoje

The following is information I provided to someone regarding what seems to be an almost identical situation regarding "The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" and BD-Rebuilder:

BTW Regarding your specific problem, try loading ONLY the main movie .M2TS file into tsMuxeR and save as a "new" BluRay "package" - and then use it with BD Rebuilder.

This should eliminate the (if I remember correctly) 11 or so seconds of silent "Music Box" beginning before the bird shows up ;>}

[borivoje]

Thanks for the reply ...

I really don't think that BD Rebuilder can do anything with it, because when I put that remuxed (and rebuilded) file back into the structure, that small separate m2ts with the 11 seconds beginning will still be there. In this case, something strange is happening even before I merge remuxed files with the original - When I remux the main movie m2ts with tsMuxeR and with the added subtitles I can play that file, but when I remux both m2ts files, which are under the same playlist, also with properly added subtitles, Total Media Theater won't play it. If I'm not missing something in that part of the guide about multiple m2ts files, this could be some serious problem with the structure of these particular blu-rays.

CHEERS

[setarip_old]

I wasn't suggesting that your situation has anything to do with BD Rebuilder, just that the two sets of circumstances were extremely similar.

Substitue "multiAVCHD" for "BD Rebuilder" in my post and you'll see what I mean...

[borivoje]

Can anyone at least give just a little bit more precise explanation of dealing with two m2ts files in one mpls. It seems that I just don't quite understand that part of the guide.

CHEERS

[mrr19121970]

Here's a new problem or I don't have enough knowledge to do the right thing. I have two KINO International titles that have the main movie split into two m2ts files. In both cases, the first file is just 11 seconds long ''KINO International'' banner and then goes the file with the main movie. If I remux just the second file with added subtitles and replace the original one, everything is fine except the sound disappears if I skip to some other chapter or use ffd or rew options. When sound disappears I have to play the title again from the menu and don't touch anything until the end, or the sound will be gone again. I've tried to follow the instructions on how to deal with multiple m2ts files but I just can't figure it out. Also, when trying to demux the streams with CLOWN BD, which is one of the suggestions in the guide, I can't choose chapter, video, audio and sub streams if I'm using BD/HD-DVD or MPLS options, only if the M2TS/TS/EVO/MKV option is checked. I've provided two screenshots of the BDInfo and Clown BD.


in Clown_BD use M2TS/TS/EVO/MKV and 00027.m2ts as your input.

alternatively try Clown_BD BD Copier. Check 'Use tsMuxeR', click on 'HDD Copy'. Manually change your 00002-00027.meta file to include your additional subtitle stream. Simply replace the dummy.pgs to your new subs and then start the .BAT,

[borivoje]

Since I can't choose ''Use tsMuxeR'' option in ''Clown_BD BD Copier and I don't see ''HDD Copy'' option, I will try Clown_BD, but I still don't understand what to do with demuxed 00027.m2ts - Shall I mux it with tsMuxeR as .ts or .m2ts file and what do I get with it when I did the same thing with tsMuxeR and it didn't worked. By the way, I get lost every time I'm reading the part of the guide about multiple m2ts files. Do I have to demux individually both 00028 and 00027 files and then mux it again individually. I'm totally confused.

CHEERS

[Capsbackup]

You only need use tsMuxeR. If you want the chapters, first load the .mpls file into tsMuxeR that has both .m2ts files. If you click the Blu-ray tab at the top of tsMuxeR, you will see the custom chapters are loaded.
Then go back to the Input tab, and remove the .mpls file you initially input. All files will be removed. Now load 00027.m2ts. Now you can keep or delete any audio or subtitle tracks by unselecting them in the tracks window.
Now go back to the Blu-ray tab, and if there is a first chapter that is 11 seconds long, ( the size of the 00028.m2ts file ) edit that window to remove the 11 seconds.
Go back to the input tab, go to output options and make sure you select Blu-Ray disk. Create a new folder and select that new folder as the output location.
Select start muxing, and when this is complete it will be the new source Blu-ray files.
This should work fine to load into with BD-RB for reencoding or as is, your choice. :)

[borivoje]

Thanks for the suggestion, but It's not working. The movie is OK, but as soon as I merge m2ts with original files, I got the same problem with disappearing sound. Also, there's no 11 seconds chapter on the beginning of the chapter list. It seems that 00028.m2ts has no chapters. And here's what I get when I read the original mpls file with mpls tools:

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/7297/capturemplschapters.jpg

By the way, I want to make full BD with added subs and preserved menus and extras and put it on BD-R.

CHEERS

[deank]

Your disc is either badly authored or broken (or mpls tools doesn't report chapters correctly).

Check if there are other playlists for the main movie. Is it really 1hr36min in duration?

Can you PM with the playlist (mpls file)?

[deank]

The problem is that both playitems in the playlist have specific IN/OUT times and mplstools reports the IN/OUT only for the intro (and not for the main movie). tsMuxeR gets confused by this specific case, too.

Intro starts at IN: 00:10:00.000 / OUT: 00:10:11.011, but main movie doesn't follow in the time line, nor starts at 00:10:00.000, but starts at IN: 01:09:59.000.

The mpls I sent back to you has intro 'cut' to 41ms which should cause your player to ignore/skip it (or show one frame of it) and continue to main movie directly. There will be no need to remux or change anything but the OUT time for the 1st playitem in the playlist (that is what I did).

[19:56:28] multiAVCHD.dat version: [04010755]
[19:56:35] *** Scanning playlist (00002.mpls). Please wait...
[19:56:35] *** Playlist EXT format: BDMV 1.1
[19:56:35] *** Detected main-path : [ID#000 Dur: 00:00:11.011] [00:10:00.000]
[19:56:35] *** Detected main-path : [ID#001 Dur: 01:35:56.792] [01:09:59.000]

Dean

[borivoje]

Thanks ''deank'' for your efforts ...

Since the cutting of the mpls didn't solve the problem, ''deank'' suggested that I should try multiAVCHD and I did that. I've used re-author mode with preserving original menus and extras and it's working in the Total Media Theater 3, but not in my standalone Panasonic DMP-BD80. It only gets to the menu and I can play the extras, but not the movie. When I try either through ''play'' option or through ''chapters'', the menu shows up for a second and the BD stops. Is there any option in the settings that could do the miracle, since this must be some compatibility issue?

[x400]

Hi guys

im adding subtitles to my cowboy bebop bluray

the thing is is that bdinfo shows the mpls as file 00001 but the m2ts is file 00011

so on step 4
Don't make any changes in the "Custom chapters list", as that information is taken directly from the mpls. At the "First MPLS file" choose 3, since we have 00003.mpls, the playlist containing the movie. If we had 00100.mpls containing the movie, we would have chosen 100. At "First M2TS file" choose 3, as well, following the same idea. Uncheck "Add blank playlist for cropped video" as it has no use. It's no problem should you forget it checked, it doesn't bother with anything.

Would i choose 1 for "First MPLS file" and 11 for "First M2TS file" ??

now i've actually already ran tsmuxer once with 1stMPLS and 1stM2TS set to 1 can i just rename the M2TS file to 00011 or do I have to run the whole process again?

[crl2007]

Yes, you have to choose 1 for the mpls and 11 for the m2ts. You have to redo the process. Because you will need the clpi to pint to the 11 m2ts, not to 00001.m2ts.

[doffot]

the principal movie : example 846.mpls = 00880.m2ts- 00882- 00900-00902-009003 ( all five .m2ts principal movie )
tsmuxer convert to : 00846.mpls = 00800.m2ts (one m2ts principal movie )

menu = fine
setup = fine
play = fine
skip charpet = fail and pause black screen

help me...!

[crl2007]

Copy the chapters from the original playlist.

[neohope]

hi, i try adding subtitle , i've have follow all the steps
but after i play it, it only play 1 second and back to main menu

any suggestion ?

[crl2007]

You blanked the main movie or edited the main playlist wrong.

[neohope]

yeah you right, i got the wrong playlist
thanks for your help

[x400]

does anyone know if this same process (or similar) can be used to switch/add audio tracks?

[crl2007]

Yes, it's the same process.

[neohope]

hi, for this case, i follow all the steps and after all finish
when i play, no problem, but when i skip it back to beginning of the movie, altough the timing is moving ( not from 00:00:000)
and the audio & the sub were mess up, this happen if i skip the movie ( use a next button )

[crl2007]

You did not edit the mpls right.

[neohope]

in bdinfo it show my mpls in 00003.mpls
so in bdedit i choose 00003.mpls
but before i edit it , in IN TIME its already shown 00:10:00:000
so what i should do now ?

[crl2007]

Edit the chapter marks. It's all written in the guide.

[neohope]

it's working
thanks again for your help :)

[crl2007]

You're welcome.

[seenoevil]

with clownbd i compile a seamless branching bluray to one big m2ts file
after add a subtitle with tsmuxer i want split this file like the original ones
i want to replace these files to the original bluray to gain full function menu
crl2007 please help to solve this problem because almost latest movies release as seamless branching bluray
thank you very much

[crl2007]

You can't split them as they were. In order to have them the same, you'll have to edit everyone of them individually. It is written in the guide how to do that, in the series part of the guide. If you want just to keep the menu, it is enough to replace the clpi and the mpls with the ones from the remux.

[Salehi]

hi

I added srt subtitle using multiAVCHD, but after it done, the subtitle is out of sync. before operation, i play the bluray and check it with timing of subtitle, the sync time was exact. so why multiAVCHD make subtitle out of sync?

[seenoevil]

but how i supposed to add subtitle to each of them ?
split the subtitle needs changing all times
is there any program that could help me to split subtitle ?
or have you any suggestion ?

[crl2007]

You have to split it manually with notepad or subtitle workshop. And you add subtitle to them individually. Every one has its own mpls.

[seenoevil]

only split subtitle is enough or i should readjust times ?
if i add subtitle to the files with less than 10 minute length ( Because of shifting IN 10:00:000 ) doesn't problem ?
thank you for your help

[crl2007]

You must readjust times to fit the pieces. And it's no problem if you add subtitle to files with less than 10 min length. IN_OUT times are something and the duration is something else.

[seenoevil]

sorry, for the last question i want to know what should i do with mpls that i gain from muxing each file ?
do i need change original mpls ?

[crl2007]

Not necessarelly. You can edit the original ones by hand with bdedit.

[ninja_huaso]

Hi, this is my problem, add subtitles a Blue-ray japanese without subtitles, but the problem is this:

http://img109.imageshack.us/i/troublesubsbr.jpg/

*Presentation Graphics
(*) Some one playlist on this disk have hidden track. These tracks are marked with and asterisk

So, no show subtitles on the burn disc, but BDInfo have subtitles, but show this.
Have burn disc, reautors 100 times, but the same.
Have Blue-ray with subtitles, have replace without problem, but japanese blu-ray with have not subtitle, have this problem.
My English is not good, but this is my problems.
How keep subtitles no hidden?

[crl2007]

You'll have to use bdedit to unhide the subtitle. When a subtitle is hidden, or an audio track, this means that the playlist doesnot contain it, but only the m2ts.

Open the disc in bdedit - go to PLAYLIST tab - choose your playlist and follow the steps from the picture.

http://thumbnails34.imagebam.com/10475/660cbe104746675.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/660cbe104746675)

[ninja_huaso]

Wow, jajajaja, it's to easy, thanks, you save my life, jejeje, I'll try.

[416d697248]

Hi every one,I have the BD with the movie split in several m2ts files,I want to add a subtitle in it but keeping spilit form to keep the original menu and my bluray size don't change,What should I do?
Sorry about my weak english

[crl2007]

Use the method from series discs. Or use the normal method and after that delete all the split m2ts files + their clpi files and their mpls files.

[416d697248]

Thank you,But,How can I find their clpi files and their mpls files?
You mean same number as m2ts files?

[crl2007]

The clpi files have the same number as the m2ts files. To properly identify the mpls, after deleting the m2ts + clpi just open the disc in bdinfo and it will tell you which mpls must be deleted.

[416d697248]

Thanks,I do that you say but when in menu,I press play warrning page coms and then nothing..The movie does not start..
What should I do?

[crl2007]

Did you copy the remuxed m2ts + its clpi + the mpls ? And replaced the movie mpls files ?

[416d697248]

Yes,I did what exactly your guid said,I copied the remuxed m2ts + its clpi + the mpls and then deleted the split m2ts files + their clpi files and their mpls files..
But,When I hit the play button in movie's menu,Warrning page was shown and then nothing..The movie does not start..
Do you have any idea?
Thanks a lot
@};-

[crl2007]

There must be 3-4 mpls files for the main movie. Replace them all. Rename the remuxed mpls as all the others and copy all of them in the playlist folder.

[416d697248]

Thanks dude
Last question,Can you please describe the folders in the bluray?
What is the propose of each of them?
CERTIFICATE?
AUXDATA?
BACKUP?
BDJO?
CLIPINF?
...
Thanks

[crl2007]

http://www.videohelp.com/hd

[EAGLE-1]

hi crl2007,really thanks for this great guide,i will try today,i have a question,today or tomorrow i will get the BLU RAY 3D of avatar,this blu ray 3d dont have spanish subtitles so i want to try with your guide,anyway here is the deal,the full iso of this blu ray 3d have a size of 46gb,but if you explore the BDMV folder,the size say 72gb!! that weird thing happen with all the blu ray 3d actually,so my big fat question is,if i try your guide with this blu ray 3d and at last when we need make the iso with imgburn,the final iso will be 46gb or 72gb?? really thanks!!

[EAGLE-1]

well i already try and dont work,iso size is 72gb

[crl2007]

3D BD can't be edited yet. Maybe in the future.

[carenagi]

insert any audio latino expendables to the movie, but it shows me bdinfo, strain is the correct mpls
I do?http://www.imaxenes.com/imagen/bdinfo1ow78t4.jpg.html
please me

[carenagi]

http://www.imaxenes.com/imagen/bdinfo1ow78t4.jpg.html

[carenagi]

insert any audio latino expendables to the movie, but it shows me bdinfo, strain is the correct mpls
I do?
please me

http://www.imaxenes.com/imagen/bdinfo1ow78t4.jpg.html

[crl2007]

I don't quite understand what problem you have.

[carenagi]

hi i want to insert audio latino to movie the expendables but , when i open the movie file with BDinfo , it shows me many files mpls and m2ts files , i don't know wich of these are the original file from the movie .

*and the m2ts it is brake in many part , i'm really confuse about it and i don't know what to do , i'll really appreciate any help
http://www.imaxenes.com/imagen/bdinfo1ow78t4.jpg.html

[crl2007]

You have there Theatrical and Extended version. The Theatrical version i 00004.mpls and the Extended one is 00006.mpls. In the guide I have explained how to treat this kind of Blu-Ray discs.

[matiypau]

Hi, I have a bluray, and it hasn't any sub. How to add the new subtitle in to bluray?. Because in remuxed's folder works perfectly, when i try to play the original's folder, the subtitle does not appear
Thank you so much

[crl2007]

Edit the mpls with bdedit and add a subtitle stream.

[matiypau]

I already did, and nothing

[crl2007]

If you can't do it manually, use this guide: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=151925

[MRSFILM]

hi
how adding subtitle to blu-ray3D DISC with the keeping the original menu?help me

[crl2007]

It can't be done yet. When SSIF files can be demuxed/remuxed, then it will be possible.

[matiypau]

Thank you. I will try this

[416d697248]

Hi,I want to insert new subtitle to movie the expendables,I used normal method with the theatrical version (00004.mpls) and after that delete all the split m2ts files + their clpi files and their mpls files...When it was done,Everything is working fine on my PC (PowerDVD 10 and TotalMedia Theatre 3),But,On Playstation 3 and Blu-Ray Player it has problem just same as Iron Man 2 (Iron Man 2 splits in several m2ts files too),The movie doesn't start,screen remains black..
What should I do to solve this problem on PS3 and BD Players?
Thanks dude (Crl2007).
@};-

[crl2007]

You have to replace all the original movie mpls files with the one edited.

[416d697248]

Yes,I replaced 00004.mpls and 00006.mpls but the problem still remain..
:-(
Do youhave any idea?

[crl2007]

On PS3 I know that you have to split your movie and make it AVCHD compliant, the same applies on certain BD players.

[416d697248]

Thanks,But how can I make it AVCHD compliant?

[crl2007]

You can use my guide here, which is an alternative to this: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=151925&highlight=multiavchd Just open the edited disc in multiavchd and choose an output format suitable for PS3. When you load the bluray disc you must answer with yes if it ask you if you want to use the output with PS3. This question pops up if the bluray disc has java.

[416d697248]

Sorry,Another problem has occurred again,I read your multiAVCHD guide and do just what you said.. (But I did it with the version that was edited by tsMuxeR before),But,Every time I tried to use multiAVCHD Although I selected main mpls file (In my case 00004.mpls) but in output I receved the movie that consist of extras inted of the main movie and it size is about 13GB..
Why?
:-(

[crl2007]

For multiAVCHD behaviour you must ask in the official multiavchd thread. http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744&page=344 You must add the whole BDMV folder and answer yes when it asks you if you want to open BluRay Re-Author Mode.

[neohope]

hi, i 've follow every step, & have save chapter from BD Edit, and use it , but when i play, i press next button, it still back to chapter 1
any suggestion ?

[crl2007]

You have to replace or edit your original mpls.

[neohope]

already done it, after replace , i edit it, but still the same

[crl2007]

You're doing something wrong. Please read the guide again.

[jediknight]

hi crl2007,

my friend can you make a new guide for especially multiple .m2ts files. Like Gladiator Extenteed REMASTERED. Have 150 .m2ts files. and 2 version. Theatrical & Extendeed. So i think its not possible to add subtitle for this am i right ? Because i tried to apply your guide didnt help me. and i know i did everything same as you show.

So we need a detailed tutorial for about adding subtitle for multiple .m2ts files. Can you do that brother ?

Thank you, and can you check your pm please ?

have a nice day.

[jediknight]

one more thing i have problem with BDInfo. Cant open any blu-ray bdmv. Happens all blurays (have 37 full bd tried)

here is the error ;

http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/5598/errorzsg.jpg

[crl2007]

Did you remove copy protection with Anydvd hd ? As for your other problem, the answer lies in the guide too.

[Gabriel88]

Is is possible to add subtitle to a BlurayDisc "2D & 3D", only to the 2D version!?
Thanks.

[crl2007]

Yes, but then the disc will be useless. It won't start, because the ssif will not find a matching m2ts.

[Gabriel88]

Thank you for the answer.
So, in my understanding the answer is NO, for the moment.

[crl2007]

Yes, for the moment it isn't possible.

[Gabriel88]

Please tell me, for step 9, what does it mean "the same": "If a Blu-Ray has 2 mpls for the main movie, do the same for both of them. "
1) just step 9
2) all the steps from 1-9 in a single session of TS muxer or in 2 sessions of TS muxer!?
Thanks

[crl2007]

No, just edit the second mpls as you edited the first one.

[CadimFR]

I'm trying to put subtitle in a file .iso (bluray) following the tutorial.

I have some problems.

1 - I did everything you said and I have the subtitle in portuguese (Brazil) in my video, but the menu of the disk doesn't works. I click in the button "play movie" but it restarts. I'm using the powerDVD 10 and I can change the title and find the video, but in the menu of the video, doesn't work.

2 - When I go to change the language (subtitle) in the menu, it show English, French and Spanish. It doesn't show portuguese. I substituted the French. I thought that if I put portuguese (por) in the BDMuxer it should show portuguese on the menu.

3 - The video that I want to change subtitle is 3D. Imax Under The Sea 3D. In the folder STREAM has other folder called SSIF (I Think it's because the video is 3d). In this folder has a file called 00012.ssif with 14GB. I try to play it but just plays the audio. And in the folder STREAM has a file with 9GB (00012.m2ts) and other with 5GB (00013.m2ts), but all the video is in the file 00012.m2ts and I cannot open the file 00013.m2ts in the media player classic, just the file 00012.m2ts.

4 - The last thing. The original disk has 15GB and the remuxed video has 30GB. I think that the file 00012.ssif is within the file 00012.m2ts in the original video and in the remuxed video it's not within the video.

Someone?

Thanks.

[crl2007]

From the mentioning of the ssif file you have there a 3D disc. These discs can't be edited yet.

[soheilkkkk]

hi,for first time i had a movie (name:black swan) that had 2mpls file for main movie,after remuxing with ts muxer
the out time in bdedit show a unreasonble .like :24:12:00.000 and when i replace in and out time to remuxed one for both mpls
doesnt show the movie in tmt5.please help me.

[crl2007]

You have to change the chpaters too to match or TMT 5 won't play it even it's a discrepancy of 1 ms. It is explained in the guide how to save chapters in bdedit and replace them afterwards.

[soheilkkkk]

thanks for answer me,i have 1 another question.how i can make region of blueray movies free?

[crl2007]

When you backup your discs with anydvd hd, just tick to remove region locks.

[soheilkkkk]

thanks a lot for responsing me,it was very useful.i love you man.

[crl2007]

You're welcome.

[soheilkkkk]

in some blueray disks ,(like the bourne ,all three parts)when i add mpls of the main movie ,ts muxer show a warning messsage .the message is :some tarcks not recognized .this tracks was ignored.
and when i start muxing it doesnt finish it completly and finish with errors ,please help me.i think this is the newest type of 2d blueray.

[Capsbackup]

The file has PiP, with DTS Express secondary audio, which tsMuxeR does not support... thus the error / message you see.

[soheilkkkk]

no,that wasnt the problem ,i find it myself.the mpls file had 2 video file which one of them was 720:480 and the second was 1920:1080,according to the first page giude i bring 1920:1080 to the first line and it worked correctly.thanks.now i have another problem with that ,it works correctly in tmt5 but the main movie dont show in powerdvd 10 ,but show the menue and trailler.please help me in this

[crl2007]

Capsabackup is right about the warnings, they appear because of the PiP feature. The PiP feature is that second 480p h264 stream.

As for PowerDVD 10, it's not that it does not work, but you have to make an ISO to work correctly. Since PowerDVD 8 you can't play files directly from folders anymore.

[soheilkkkk]

i made iso file but in power dvd 10 play the trailer in the first then menue but when i click play mivie it doesnt show ,even it show bd live,but in tmt 5 show every thing and the movie but doesnt show bd live.

[crl2007]

Then you didn't make the iso how it should. UDF 2.50 and with the correct folder structure.

[soheilkkkk]

no,every thing is correct ,udf 2.50 and i copy blueray patch in folder contain bdmv and certificate and did the instructions,always i do it and this is the first time i face this problem only for this movie that have 2 video file for mpls

[soheilkkkk]

the main movie had 3 mpls file,idont know maby this relate the problem.what you think?

[crl2007]

You must modify them all.

[soheilkkkk]

i know i did it.but maby this new version of bluray doesnt support powerdvd 10.is it possible?

[crl2007]

No, it's not possible.

[soheilkkkk]

i think ,i found the problem but i dont know how to fix that.after muxing with tsmuxer because i put the 1080p video to the first line and 480p to the second,and then i made the blueray movie according to the instruction.i saw the clipinf of main movie with bd edit ,and i found that 1080p video is in first line yet ,and i think that i should bring back to the second line,how i can bring back 480p to the first line the edited movie again?there is no option in bd edit that i can do that?

[crl2007]

You don't have to bring it back a line. That's how tsmuxer handles them, but in the clipinf they are correct.

[soheilkkkk]

no they are not correct ,bd edit show that 1080p is still in first line.
only powerdvd cant play ,even i test it with powerdvd 11 and still cant play ,tmt 5 and corel windvd 2010 play it,
what you think my friend ?what s the reason?
one important thing:in powerdvd 11 you can play blueray from folder .dont need to make iso.

[crl2007]

1080p should be in the first line. It's correct. Only tsmuxer inverted them. In the mpls they are 1080 - 480 - audio streams - pgs streams. PDVD is a shitty BD player imo.

[soheilkkkk]

thanks a lot,i know that pdvd is very weak,but i just wanted be confident that write it and be play in blueray player and ps3.
i beleave you that you can find a way for add sub to 3d bd ,you are our hope.you are a proffessional.:thanks:

[crl2007]

It's not up to me. It's up to the free software developers. I'm merely an user of their products.

I believe that it will work in a bd player if you edited all the main movie mpls files.

[soheilkkkk]

thanks a lot.

[soheilkkkk]

i find two software for 3d blueray ,look at them .see that they are useful or not.they are for sony creative software
z depth,blu-print 6
if you want ican find download link for you.

[pastrulox]

Hi, this method works with a bluray without any sub track?
I tried with bds replacing tracks and works fine, but with japan bds is not working.
Any ideas?

[crl2007]

Yes, it works. You have to add an entry in the STN table as well.

[Gabriel88]

I have a movie which has many mpls for the main movie "Spiderman 2" (all are group 1 in BDinfo). Each mpls has the video split in many m2ts.
Please tell me which method should I apply to this.
You are saying:
"Additional information for the BDs with the movie split in several m2ts files:"
Then you are saying:
"2. Some discs have the video split across multiple *.m2ts files"
Please tell me which method should be applied.
Thanks

[crl2007]

Whichever you want, but "2. Some discs have the video split across multiple *.m2ts files" implies way less work. The first one is if you want to keep the whole structure intact and seamless branched.

[Gabriel88]

I have a movie with no sutitle tracks: Transformers The Movie - 1986.
Please tell me what is the STN tab and where can I find the STN tab.
Thanks.

[crl2007]

It's in the right side of the PLAYLIST tab. It says STN.

[Gabriel88]

Thank you for your quick answers!
Lat's say I would like to apply the first method:
”Additional information for the BDs with the movie split in several m2ts files:”
Please tell me if these are the correct steps to follow:
I have to load to TSMuxer the first MPLS: 00001.MPLS and appy to the corresponding first m2ts: 00001.m2ts in the Bluray tab.
Then I have to load again the first mpls: 00001.mpls and apply to the corresponding second m2ts: 00002.m2ts
Then I have to load again the first mpls: 00001.mpls and apply to the corresponding third m2ts: 00003.m2ts
And so on until I finish all the corresponding m2ts to the 00001.mpls
Then I have to loat to TSMuxer the second MPLS: 00002.MPLS and appy to the corresponding first m2ts: 00050.m2ts
Then I have to load again the second mpls: 00002.mpls and apply to the corresponding second m2ts: 00051.m2ts
Then I have to load again the second mpls: 00002.mpls and apply to the corresponding third m2ts: 00052.m2ts
And so on until I finish all the corresponding m2ts to the 00002.mpls.
And so on until I finish all the mlps with all their corresponding m2ts.
Please tell me which mpls should I copy from the Remuxed folder to the Original Folder (we have 9 different 00001.mpls, 5 different 00002.mpls, and so on...)
Please tell me if my understanding is correct.
(The above numbers are just examples)

Thanks again.

[crl2007]

No, every single m2ts has it's separate mpls. You have to edit them one by one, split the subtitle and ync it for every part etc and then you have to edit the big one that contains all of them.

It's easier to do it with the other method and clown_bd.

[Gabriel88]

"No, every single m2ts has it's separate mpls."
This is correct.
"You have to edit them one by one, split the subtitle and ync it for every part etc and then you have to edit the big one that contains all of them."
Sorry, I want to make sure I understand correctly.
When you say "them" you are taking about m2ts?
When you say "the big one" you are referring to the mpls?
Thanks.

[crl2007]

Yes, i mean the m2ts files and the big mpls is the one that has them all declared inside it. But every m2ts has it's independent mpls when it comes to seamless branched discs.

[Gabriel88]

This is very difficult, especially the part with the split of the subtitle for every m2ts.
It takes a lot of work and attention.
Let's try the second method.
I found the Clown BD in the link you told us.
There are many options there to download.
Please tell me if this is the right choice:
"Clown_BD, eac3to, tsMuxer Package"
Thanks.

[crl2007]

Yes, the full package.

[Gabriel88]

Ok, sorry to bother you, but I would like to confirm that I am doing the correct steps.
1) I chose the mpls, the big one only, right?
2) I chose the audio and the subtitle I want to keep. Should I thick BATCH? What is BATCH for?
Thanks

[claymic]

I dont speak english, but i will try.
I have a movie/file in 3D and i want to add a new audio in this file, i will play this files (3DBD.iso) in the oppo bdp-93 (this player can play the 3D files in .iso). So, the do i can make this with BDEDIT and TSMUXER ? There is some guide for this ? The oppo will arrive about 2 weeks and i want to do this before the player arrive.
Thanks very much for your help and i am sorry for my bad english.
Clayton

[crl2007]

You can't edit 3D discs. There isn't a way at the moment to edit the ssif files and remake the iso file.

[mpucoder]

@Claymic - please do not post the same question more than one time. You have posted this same question three times now.

[magicross]

“If a Blu-Ray has 2 mpls for the main movie, do the same for both of them”

A little bit of confusing, do the same steps which are 1-9 or just step 9

For example

0001.mpls and 0002.mpls both contain the main movie 0011.m2ts

what should I do then in this situation？

[crl2007]

You edit both of them with bdedit.

[magicross]

You edit both of them with bdedit.

ok thanks for your help!

you mean they should be both edited from step 1-9:stupid: Am I right？

[crl2007]

No, just point 9. If you replace the mpls with the one from tsmuxer, just copy it again and rename it as the second one you have.

[magicross]

No, just point 9. If you replace the mpls with the one from tsmuxer, just copy it again and rename it as the second one you have.

Aha! I just thought for a while，you are right!

BTW it is quite helpful to add subs to the BDs according to your guide :thanks:

[crl2007]

You're welcome. I'm glad that you find it useful.

[magicross]

Hi crl2007 I got another problem with tsmuxer

Follow your guide and add subs using tsmuxer and start muxing, everything goes well until it stops at 22%

and tsmuxer tell me that"Reading buffer overflow. Possible container streams are not syncronized. Please, verify stream fps. File name: G:\Men in Black 1997 Blu-ray CEE 1080p VC-1 DD 5.1\BDMV\STREAM\00011.m2ts"

BTW, I have done nothing to the audio track.

So whats the problem now for I have tried serval times both stop at 22%

thanks!

[Jackywang]

Thanks for your greate instruction crl2007.

I have a few question need your help, below is my BDinfo structure:

http://s4.postimage.org/j643mrqqx/BDInfo.jpg (http://postimage.org/image/j643mrqqx/)

As you can see in the attachment picture mine having 4MPL (00012.MPLS, 00101.MPLS, 00001.MPLS, 00002.MPLS) with one the same M2TS (00001.M2TS) are all in Group 1. So my first question is which MPLS should I add or I have to add one by one to the tsMuxer?

Thanks inadvanced for reply.

[crl2007]

You add whichever one you want and edit the rest of them with bdedit.

[Jackywang]

Thanks for your quick replied. I successfully edited my BD but one more problem I can't get it play on TMT5 but PowerDVD 11 can plays.

9. Open your "Original" folder in BDEdit. Go to PLAYLIST Tab and find the main movie mpls. After you find it, do the following:

If a Blu-Ray has 2 mpls for the main movie, do the same for both of them. For discs to work with TMT 5 you have to copy the IN_OUT Times and chapters from the mpls created with tsmuxer in the one you edit with BDEdit.

I must missed the step 9 on the point you mentioned that For discs to work with TMT 5 you have to copy the IN_OUT Times and chapters from the mpls created with tsmuxer in the one you edit with BDEdit. I just can't figure it out where to get IN_OUT Times and chapaters???

Thanks again for your time.

[crl2007]

You open the Blu-Ray structure created by tsmuxer in bdedit and in another instance you open the edited BD and copy the IN_OUT Times and chapter marks from the one created by tsmuxer to the edited one. BDEdit has export and import chapter marks functions, so you don't have to copy over 20+ chapter marks by hand.

[magicross]

No, just point 9. If you replace the mpls with the one from tsmuxer, just copy it again and rename it as the second one you have.

Hi
I have followed this step everything goes well

TMT3 and POWERDVD11 can play the edited Disc well But TMT5 can‘t play it，just can’t move to the the main movie

Any suggestion？:stupid:

then I “followed For discs to work with TMT 5 you have to copy the IN_OUT Times and chapters from the mpls created with tsmuxer in the one you edit with BDEdit. ”

It doesnt work either

[crl2007]

Read the guide. I explained the same thing a few posts back.

[Gabriel88]

Hi
Please tell me how does it work the STN tab.
When should I add the new subtitle track in the STN tab, before the TS muxer operation or after the TS Muxer operation.
Thanks

[crl2007]

After, normally.

[Gabriel88]

So, with the STN tab I can add a new subtitle to a Bluray.
If the bluray has 4 subtitle tracks, the new bluray will have 5 subtite tracks?

[grarvapar]

Manymany thanks,Thank God I did it

[tandi]

sorry if this have been ask before
did this guide can work for 3D movie ?

[crl2007]

No, there's no method to do this for 3D discs.

[tandi]

ok thanks you

[Ghitulescu]

Character codes have been and still are an issue.

After several weeks of trial&error experiments on various computers (this is actually where most developers fail, to test a SW at least once on a different system) I think I managed to find a solution to subtitles in other languages than English ([I]ie outside those 26 letters). This solution will work also in a computer without the code pages for the language and font characters used.

TsMuxeR accepts Unicode-encoded SRTs. However, the font used in the settings must be unicode (all MS fonts with unicode in their name, like Arial Unicode MS).

[Gabriel88]

I used Clown BD for a disc with the video split across multiple *.m2ts files.
I obtained a BDMV structure containing a big M2ts (containing the whole movie), which is made automatically by the tsMuxer.
Unfortunately the BDMV does not have any menu.
I also obtained the demuxed streams.
Now, could you please tell me what are the next steps to add the subtitle and more important how to keep the original menu.
Please tell me what I should delete/replace from the Original disc and what should I keep.
I assume I should put the big m2ts file instead the multiple m2ts files (delete the multiple m2ts files).
What should I do with the clpi, mpls, files from the Original disc.
Which should I keep, which should I delete/replace!?

[crl2007]

It is written in the first post. You'll find all the steps there.

[Gabriel88]

Sorry, but it does not answer my questions. Maybe you said something somewhere else!?

"Some discs have the video split across multiple *.m2ts files. This discs are containing the Rated and Unrated version, or some extra titles. When you come across one of them, DO NOT USE tsMuxer directly, because tsMuxer does not handle well seamless branched discs. First demux the streams with CLOWN BD ( it's a pretty intuitive program ) and then feed them into tsMuxer. You'll find the demuxed streams in "eac3to output" folder. For chapters, copy the text from chapters.txt that results after demuxing with CLOWN BD, only the time values. Like this: The rest remains exactly the same. Be sure to insert the streams in the correct order."

As you can see there is nothing about adding a subtitle, nothing about deleting the unnecessary m2ts streams, nothing about clpi to delete or to keep, mpls to replace, etc.
Please tell me if it is possible to keep the menu using this method!?
Thank you for giving an answer to the am questions, if possible.

[crl2007]

And after you do that you do what you normally do with an edited bd m2ts. It's all in the guide. Every step. Instead of remuxing it with tsmuxer, you remux it with clownbd that uses eac3to. But nothing else changes.

[Gabriel88]

Please tell me if it is possible to keep the menu using this method!?
The resulted bluray does not seem to have a menu.
Thanks,

[crl2007]

OMFG... Yes, of course. You just add a subtitle to the resulted bd and replace the original files with these files. ( only the m2ts and clpi and mpls )

[Gabriel88]

Hi again,
The resulted Bluray has only 1 mpls, 1 clpi and 1 m2ts respectively:
00000.mpls
00000.clpi
00000.m2ts
Please tell me if I should replace
00000.mpls should replace 5 mpls
00000.clpi should replace 5 clpi
00000.m2ts should replace 5 m2ts in the Original folder!?
(this is just an example)
How do I figure out which ones to be replaced in the Original folder (Bdinfo maybe)!?
Thank you so much!

[crl2007]

It's clear that you did not read a word from my guide. You can find out by reading the first section of the guide.

[Gabriel88]

Not so clear, I am afraid.
I already added subtitles to more than 30 blurays so far, thanks to you.
All of the 30 blurays had only 1 m2ts and it was easy, also it was very well explained by you.
When it comes to multiple m2ts the guide is so vague, not so much explanation.
Anyway, sorry to bother you.
Thank you for your time.

[crl2007]

It's not vague. You treat'em like any other discs. You just convert the multiple m2ts in one m2ts with clownbd and then you add subtitle to the one made with clownbd and replace in the original one the mpls, the clpi with the ones you created and you just copy the m2ts. Then you delete all the little m2ts files that were part of the original, so that you don't get a double size BD disc.

[Gabriel88]

This part I understand, but something is missing from the explanation, from my point of view.
Maybe I should give the real example.
I choose a very simple example.
The movie is the Last Waltz.
From the BDinfo we have the following info:
00009.mpls which is responsible for the below 2 *.m2ts
00008.m2ts
00009.m2ts

00008.mpls which is responsible for the below one *.m2ts
00009.m2ts

00007.mpls which is responsible for the below one *.m2ts
00008.m2ts
----------------------------------------------------------------------

form the remuxed folder we have:
00000.clpi
00000.m2ts
00000.mpls

----------------------------------------------------------------------

I tried to rename the
00000.mpls -> 00009.mpls and replace the original 00009.mpls
00000.clpi -> 00008.clpi and replace the original 00008.clpi
00000.m2ts -> 00008.m2ts and replace the original 00008.m2ts
I deleted the 00009.m2ts
The logic was to follow the first mpls in the Bdinfo (00009.mpls)
Unfortunately the movie does not start, only the menu is working, then it repeats the menu, endless loop.
Please tell me what logic should I follow in this case and in the future cases.
Thank you.

[crl2007]

It should work if you did what you said there.

[Gabriel88]

Ok, I will try once again, from the beginning.
I delete all the work and start from the beginning.
Maybe I messed up something somewhere.
Thanks.

[Gabriel88]

Nope, it does not work.
The same behaviour, menu is playing in endless loop.
Should I try to leave the original 00009.mpls in place and edit the in time "10" with Bdedit!?
Thanks,
Cheers

[Gabriel88]

If I leave the original 00009.MPLS in place the movie starts and play only until reaches the half of the movie, then it stops.
Most probably that it can not find the 00009.m2ts and it stops.

[Gabriel88]

I tried the last night many different possibilities of replacing/renaming the clpi, mpls and m2ts.
None works.
The best result is playing the first half of the movie.
00008.m2ts has approx 10 GB
00009.m2ts has approx 10 GB

I replaced with the new created 00000.m2ts (renamed to 00008.m2ts) which has approx 20GB.
I deleted the 00009.m2ts.
I guess somehow the movie needs the 00009.m2ts and it can not find.
It stops at the middle of the movie.
This is the problem.
Thanks.

[crl2007]

You did something wrong while editing the mpls.

[Gabriel88]

Please see my last post.
I did not edit the mpls.
Could you please tell me if there is a rule:
-which mpls to replace in the original folder!? (i.e. the lowest number-name)
-which clpi to replace in the original folder!? (i.e. the lowest number-name)
-which m2ts to replace in the original folder!? (i.e. the lowest number-name)
If you do not understand the question, because my English is not good, I can ask you in Romanian in the Romanian section.
Thank you.

[Gabriel88]

"It's not vague. You treat'em like any other discs. You just convert the multiple m2ts in one m2ts with clownbd and then you add subtitle to the one made with clownbd and replace in the original one the mpls, the clpi with the ones you created and you just copy the m2ts. Then you delete all the little m2ts files that were part of the original, so that you don't get a double size BD disc."
You did not say "EDIT", you said "REPLACE".
I did exactly what you said.
Now you say I should have EDITED the mpls, not REPLACE!?
Thank you.

[crl2007]

If you have more than one mpls for the movie, you should replace them all with the edited one. You rename the edited one like the first original one - replace it - rename the edited mpls again as the second original one - replace this one too etc.

It does not matter which clpi from those too you replace, as long as it matches the mpls and m2ts. When you edit a disc, you can't just make 00000.m2ts, mpls and clpi, you have to use their original numbering, because you'll end up with a clpi that asks for 00000 instead of let's say 00008 and the mpls will ask for the same 00000 m2ts.

It's all written in the guide. As far as for the edit goes, I've explained in the last portion of the guide how to edit the mpls with bdedit.

If you have further questions, please PM me in Romanian and we'll sort this out.

[Ghitulescu]

"It's not vague. You treat'em like any other discs. You just convert the multiple m2ts in one m2ts with clownbd and then you add subtitle to the one made with clownbd and replace in the original one the mpls, the clpi with the ones you created and you just copy the m2ts. Then you delete all the little m2ts files that were part of the original, so that you don't get a double size BD disc."
You did not say "EDIT", you said "REPLACE".
I did exactly what you said.
Now you say I should have EDITED the mpls, not REPLACE!?
Thank you.

It's magic how you managed to understand this "confused" :p guide to add subtitles to 30 other blu-rays.

[Gabriel88]

It's magic how you managed to understand this "confused" :p guide to add subtitles to 30 other blu-rays.

I did not say confused I said vague.
FYI a guide can not be confused, a guide can be, eventually, confusing.
It is not the case, here, the guide is excellent, only I feel that some more detailed info is necessary for me.
Only a person can be confused :-).
Have you tried a branched *.m2ts disc!?
Please try and you will see what I mean :-)

[Gabriel88]

If you have more than one mpls for the movie, you should replace them all with the edited one. You rename the edited one like the first original one - replace it - rename the edited mpls again as the second original one - replace this one too etc.

It does not matter which clpi from those too you replace, as long as it matches the mpls and m2ts. When you edit a disc, you can't just make 00000.m2ts, mpls and clpi, you have to use their original numbering, because you'll end up with a clpi that asks for 00000 instead of let's say 00008 and the mpls will ask for the same 00000 m2ts.

It's all written in the guide. As far as for the edit goes, I've explained in the last portion of the guide how to edit the mpls with bdedit.

If you have further questions, please PM me in Romanian and we'll sort this out.

Thank you for your time and for your kind answer.
When you say 'edit' the mpls you mean to put the chapters from the original bluray to the new mpls-s that were replaced.
(The in time editing is meaningless, because the mpls made by clown bd is already edited)
Thanks

[Ghitulescu]

Maybe I did :)
There is no 1:1 correlation between the ordinal number of a playlist and a clip + clipinfo ... see what I mean

[Gabriel88]

Of course it did not work. I forgot to edit the mpls-s to point to the big fat *m2ts.
Thank you crl2007!
If there is any option to make a donation, please let me know.
Cheers!

[crl2007]

I'm glad you found out what you overlooked. I do not accept donations. The developers of the software should be supported with as many donations a person can do. Without them we wouldn't have this possibilities.

[Gabriel88]

Hi,
I already made 3 Bluray movies that have the movie split accros many *m2ts.
All of them are working perfect on TMT 3 and Dune player.
Thank you.
There is a small issue.
I burned one of the movies on a Bluray Disc and tried to play in a standalone Bluray Player.
Unfortunately the movie does not start.

It is passing the menu, but then the movie it is not starting.
I guess the standalone bluray player is handling differently the movie than a file player, like TMT3.

If I put the disc in the computer Bluray Optical drive and play with TMT 3 it is playing without any problem.
Any idea, please.
Thank you.

[Ghitulescu]

All of them are working perfect on TMT 3 and Dune player.
Thank you.
There is a small issue.
I burned one of them on a Bluray Disc and tried to play in a standalone Bluray Player.
Unfortunately the movie does not start.
I guess the standalone bluray player is handling differently the movie than a file player, like TMT3.
Any idea, please.
No it doesn't (actually is supposed not to). It's just the way a SAP finds a file vs. windows. Some pointers are wrong.

[Gabriel88]

Is there any way to correct the pointers to point to the right direction, using BD Edit, maybe!?
Thanks.

[tandi]

hi, i got this error :

SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@3.2 Resolution: 720:480p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding H264 stream (track 2): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding TRUE-HD stream (track 3): AC3 core+TRUE-HD. Peak bitrate: 6129Kbps (core 640Kbps) Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 5): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 6): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding PGS stream (track 14): Resolution: 720:480 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding E-AC3 (DD+) stream (track 15): Bitrate: 224Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
Decoding PGS stream (track 8): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Change PGS resolution from 1920:1080 to 720:480. Scaling method: Bilinear interpolation
Decoding PGS stream (track 13): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Change PGS resolution from 1920:1080 to 720:480. Scaling method: Bilinear interpolation
Decoding PGS stream (track 7): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Change PGS resolution from 1920:1080 to 720:480. Scaling method: Bilinear interpolation
Decoding PGS stream (track 9): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Change PGS resolution from 1920:1080 to 720:480. Scaling method: Bilinear interpolation
Decoding PGS stream (track 10): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Change PGS resolution from 1920:1080 to 720:480. Scaling method: Bilinear interpolation

error :
Unexpected byte

please tell me where i do wrong ?

[crl2007]

Is your disc protected ? You can remove the protection with AnyDVD HD. If you downloaded the file, then I can't help you.

[rijnton]

crl2007 thanks for the excellent guide. I am glad I found it, because I was looking for something like for that a long time.
I have one question however. I wanted to add dutch subtitles to a Blu-Ray and placed them (in tsMuxer) instead of the french subtitles. I followed all the instructions exactly, replaced the .m2ts and the .clpi files and did exactly as you described in BDEdit and that resulted in a new Blu-Ray with the dutch subtitles and complete with the menu and all extra's. So far so good.
However when I right-click in TMT5 (that I use for Blu-Ray playback), I don't see dutch for subtitles and I have to choose french to get the dutch subtitles. Is this to be expected or did I something wrong ? Of course it is not a big problem, because I CAN get dutch subtitles and I have all the extra's and the menu.
Thanks in advance.

[crl2007]

No, you didn't do nothing wrong, you just forgot to rename the subtitle stream in BDEdit. Load your resulted blu-ray in BDEdit, go to PLAYLIST tab and on the right side you'll have a STN column. Choose PG from it and change french with dutch where you switched the subtitle.

[rijnton]

Thanks, that did it.

[crl2007]

You're welcome.

[qknet]

Thank you for your guide. It works for me without problem. I remove all unwanted audio, subtitles etc... and the BD still has a good menu.

But I would like to strip down also trailers, ads etc. Will this method help?

[Metalhero]

Hello, I'm new here! Thanks for the great tutorial.
I have a question, when I was adding a sub in a BD that didn't had any sub, the new subs added by me don't appears.
This problem happens only with ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre 5 (I'm trying to test the disc with menus), when I play the disc with Media Player Classic or VLC, the subs appears. In other tests I have made, the movie don't play, shows only a black screen.

In BDInfo, there's a msg:

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
LPCM Audio Japanese 4608 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4608 kbps / 16-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
* Presentation Graphics Portuguese 0,000 kbps
* Presentation Graphics English 0,000 kbps

So, the subs are hidden. I dont know how to change this, Can someone help me?

[crl2007]

You can use BDEdit.

[Strigoyu]

Hi, mates! My name is José, I am Spanish and I'll try to do my best to explain my problem and make myself clear.

I want to add Spanish audio and subtitle tracks to a Blu Ray. The fact is that the Blu Ray that I 've come across is a "seamless branch" one, that is, a Blu Ray disc with the movie split in several ".m2ts" files (in this case, it goes from "00006", the first one, to "00014", but not exactly in this order, though...): the Blu Ray comes with two versions of the movie: a longer one and a shorter one. Of course, I've already read the guide and I've done what it is described, that is, I demuxed the longer version (the one I want to work with) with Clown_BD. But now I really don't want to make more moves or steps since I have seen that I get a "Video_2.h264" file which is very very long, I mean, it comprises the multiple ".m2ts" files that correspond to the longer version.

My question is: what do I have to do now to add my Spanish and subtitle tracks (apart from the Audio and subtitle tracks that I want to keep) in order to get several ".m2ts" files (just like in the original Blu Ray structure)? As I said before, I've read the guide, but I really don't know what's next... I think I'm stuck... Could anyone help, please? Thanks in advance!!!

[sreemv]

Great tutorial! No doubt!

But, I have a hard time understanding step 9:


9. Open your "Original" folder in BDEdit. Go to PLAYLIST Tab and find the main movie mpls. After you find it, do the following:

If a Blu-Ray has 2 mpls for the main movie, do the same for both of them. For discs to work with TMT 5 you have to copy the IN_OUT Times and chapters from the mpls created with tsmuxer in the one you edit with BDEdit.

Additional information for the BDs with the movie split in several m2ts files: The same method applies for them as well. Write in tsMuxer the number of the playlist and, then, the number of the first m2ts contained. For these discs you will have to skip step 9 and copy the remuxed mpls in your "Original" folder. Go to X:\Workspace\Remuxed\BDMV\PLAYLIST and CUT the 00003.mpls file ( example ). Go to X:\Workspace\Original\BDMV\PLAYLIST and PASTE this file here. Press OK for replacement.


Very confusing to say the least - can someone please clarify?

especially this part "copy the IN_OUT Times and chapters from the mpls created with tsmuxer in the one you edit with BDEdit" - what are we copying and from where to where??

[Capsbackup]

Great tutorial! No doubt!

But, I have a hard time understanding step 9:



Very confusing to say the least - can someone please clarify?

especially this part "copy the IN_OUT Times and chapters from the mpls created with tsmuxer in the one you edit with BDEdit" - what are we copying and from where to where??

I hope this helps, but be warned I struggle with BDEdit. :rolleyes:
Some original authored Blu-rays have IN Times/OUT Times that start with different numbers than ones authored with tsMuxeR. To check this, open two instances of BDEdit, one with your original file and one with your authored file. Click the Playlist tab for both instances and select the correct mpls number of the original and your authored one. Note the In time, Out time and length. In time may start with 00:10:00.000 or 00:11:650.000, etc... Pay attention to this. If your tsMuxer file has different IN_Out times from your original, which it most likely will, the original mpls file will need to be corrected to match your tsMuxeR one.( Thus copy IN_OUT Times) ;)

[sreemv]

I hope this helps, but be warned I struggle with BDEdit. :rolleyes:
Some original authored Blu-rays have IN Times/OUT Times that start with different numbers than ones authored with tsMuxeR. To check this, open two instances of BDEdit, one with your original file and one with your authored file. Click the Playlist tab for both instances and select the correct mpls number of the original and your authored one. Note the In time, Out time and length. In time may start with 00:10:00.000 or 00:11:650.000, etc... Pay attention to this. If your tsMuxer file has different IN_Out times from your original, which it most likely will, the original mpls file will need to be corrected to match your tsMuxeR one.( Thus copy IN_OUT Times) ;)

Thank you! Makes sense now!

[pastrulox]

Hello!
Im worked with your guide in lots of movies and works very good, movies with ONE MPLS and ONE M2TS, no errors always wins.
Now i want to work some anime blurays with multiple episodes and i have the following problem: The Bluray discs only have ONE MPLS for 2 M2TS (or maybe 3,4), NO 1 mpls for every chapter.
In you guide says : "In most cases, the structure is this: 1 big mpls that contains all 3 episodes and 1 or two mpls files for each individual episode. WE WILL NOT INSERT THE BIG MPLS IN TSMUXER. NEVER ! "
What can i do in the case the BIG MPLS is the only one containing the episodes?
I need individual subs for every ep. or a big continued sub for all the eps?
Im tryed several combinations but not work, i know im failing in some, can you guide me?
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k230/bellotax/Dibujo.jpg
Thanks

[pastrulox]

Nobody?

[jediknight]

I did everything right. But when i select subtitle, subtitle never shows :(. I can play movie but i cant see subtitle. i did everything right. i did over 10 BD disc with this method.

This discs is really interesting. Have 3 mpls for main movie. I did everything right but i cant see my subtitles :(.

What is the worng i dont understand :(

[EAGLE-1]

hello guys,well my native language is spanish, i will try to explain myself,really thanks for any help!
i try this and many others tutorials about add subtitles to a full blu ray and always get the exact same problem,the movie cut 10 minutes before the real end!,for example after i make all the steps and play the new blu ray all work perfect,the menu,the subtitles,everything,but i notice 2 problems,first you cant skip scenes,and the most major problem is the movie finish 10 exact minutes before the real end time,when i play the movie,the blu ray timer show 10 minutes running time when actually the movie just start! and the remuxed mts with the new subtitles have 2gb less that th original m2ts!
i try many times with many movies and many subtitles and the same problem happen,i really apreciate any help in this matter,really sorry for my bad english guys

[crl2007]

It seems that you didn't edit the mpls. The edited movies have an IN_Time of 10 minutes and the original ones have 0.XXX ms. You have to use my guide and edit the correct mpls with the correct IN_Time.

[EAGLE-1]

It seems that you didn't edit the mpls. The edited movies have an IN_Time of 10 minutes and the original ones have 0.XXX ms. You have to use my guide and edit the correct mpls with the correct IN_Time.

hi,thanks for the answer,this same guide you say?? because i make all the steps and always get the same problem,in any case can you please and help me? what step of this guide i doing wrong??

really thanks again for your help!

[crl2007]

This one. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=150511)

[EAGLE-1]

This one. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=150511)

yes, i already follow all the steps in your guide as i say before and akways get the same problem

[crl2007]

You're not doing something right. Those 10 minutes are from the IN_Time.

[EAGLE-1]

You're not doing something right. Those 10 minutes are from the IN_Time.

ok i get your point,but why we get this 10 minutes from the IN_TIME?
i mean in all the remuxed movies i test always get the 10 minutes loss,so you say all i need to do is write 0.XXX ms an the IN_TIME??
0.XXX ms is = 0.000 or not? if your answer is not,from where i get the exact IN TIME then???

thanks again for your help

[crl2007]

You have to use BDEdit and edit the main MPLS. It's all in the guide there.

[EAGLE-1]

ok well i make my final test with the avengers blu ray and test it with power dvd and i see no more 10 minutes loss!! i just need burn in a 50gb blu ray and test it in some blu ray players,just a final question,always we need put the 10 minutes IN_TIME? in all the movies?? i mean in all the movies where i get the 10 minutes loss problem???

thanks for great suport!

[crl2007]

Yes, for all the movies you have to put 10 mins IN_Time because tsmuxer outputs a movie that has 10 mins IN_Time. The original has those milliseconds.

[EAGLE-1]

Yes, for all the movies you have to put 10 mins IN_Time because tsmuxer outputs a movie that has 10 mins IN_Time. The original has those milliseconds.

really really thanks!! today i will try 2 more movies,thanks again for this great tutorial,you are the best!

[EAGLE-1]

last question,is the same thing if i want to replace a audio track??

[merceg100]

Hi! I've a problem with 2 blu ray movies. The problem with them is that after remuxing (I added croatian sub instead english one) the movie doesn't start from first chapter. I'm talking here about Dark Knight and PotC: At Worlds End. When I open PotC: At Worlds End with BD info I've one mpls and two m2ts for the main movie but second m2ts lasts only 1sec! And about Dark Knight I have two mpls (100 & 101) for only one m2ts (0007). When I play them with my Noontec media player this problem occurs, I go to file manager and when I click on movie blu ray folder it asks me if I want to 'play movie' or 'browse folder', then if I choose play movie the movie starts from another chapter, but if I choose 'browse folder' and go to stream folder and choose m2ts that contains main movie the movie starts from begining. What have I done wrong?
One other thing, if I play those 2 movie on my PC with TotalMedia Theatre 5 they play just fine.
Thanx for any help provided!

[mariner]

Guide for adding a subtitle on a Blu-Ray Disc keeping the original menu and its functions
...
7. ... Go to the X:\Workspace\Remuxed\BDMV\STREAM folder and CUT the 00003.m2ts. Go to the X:\Workspace\Original\BDMV\STREAM folder and PASTE that file here. Press OK for replacing and wait for it to copy.

8. Go to X:\Workspace\Remuxed\BDMV\CLIPINF and CUT the 00003.clpi file. Go to X:\Workspace\Original\BDMV\CLIPINF and PASTE this file here. Press OK for replacement.

9. Open your "Original" folder in BDEdit. Go to PLAYLIST Tab and find the main movie mpls. After you find it, do the following:

http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/7820/8c4aec78193602.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/8c4aec78193602) If a Blu-Ray has 2 mpls for the main movie, do the same for both of them. For discs to work with TMT 5 you have to copy the IN_OUT Times and chapters from the mpls created with tsmuxer in the one you edit with BDEdit.

Additional information for the BDs with the movie split in several m2ts files: The same method applies for them as well. Write in tsMuxer the number of the playlist and, then, the number of the first m2ts contained. For these discs you will have to skip step 9 and copy the remuxed mpls in your "Original" folder. Go to X:\Workspace\Remuxed\BDMV\PLAYLIST and CUT the 00003.mpls file ( example ). Go to X:\Workspace\Original\BDMV\PLAYLIST and PASTE this file here. Press OK for replacement.

....
ATTENTION:
....
2. Some discs have the video split across multiple *.m2ts files. This discs are containing the Rated and Unrated version, or some extra titles. When you come across one of them, DO NOT USE tsMuxer directly, because tsMuxer does not handle well seamless branched discs. First demux the streams with CLOWN BD ( it's a pretty intuitive program ) and then feed them into tsMuxer. You'll find the demuxed streams in "eac3to output" folder. For chapters, copy the text from chapters.txt that results after demuxing with CLOWN BD, only the time values. Like this: http://thumbnails25.imagebam.com/5999/5e8a1059983645.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/5e8a1059983645) The rest remains exactly the same. Be sure to insert the streams in the correct order.
.....


Greetings crl2007.

Many thanks for writing this excellent guide. Appreciate if you could help with a few questions:

1. Step 7,8 - do you also copy the new .mpls file in addition to the .m2ts and .clp file?

2. Step 9 - can one copy the .mpls file and skip BDedit?

3. Step 9 ....If a Blu-Ray has 2 mpls for the main movie, do the same for both of them. For discs to work with TMT 5 you have to copy the IN_OUT Times and chapters from the mpls created with tsmuxer in the one you edit with BDEdit....
Can you elaborate? only needed for TMT5?

4. Step 9 ...Additional information for the BDs with the movie split in several m2ts files:...
Do you skip BDedit to correct IN TIME?

5. ATTENTION:
....
2. Some discs have the video split across multiple *.m2ts files. ...First demux the streams with CLOWN BD
So always start with CLOWN BD?

6. Does the same procedure apply if the .264 video content is replaced? I have a number of discs where the video needs re-encoding for telecine removal (fps change from 59i to 23p)/corrupted frames replacement(same fps). The main titles are single m2ts file. Appreciate your guidance.

Many thanks and best regards.

[richter13]

Hello friends,

I have a problem in some BDS
The final chapter this cut

I've made a copy of chapters using Bdedit and putting in tsmuxer ..
but not resolved.
I'm trying to edit the mpls in and out to 00:10:00.000 but the message saying "error can not creat the backup file"

What could be wrong?

Thank you all.

[hdpower]

Anyone know how to do this with a 3D bluray?
thanks

[xleox]

hi there.


today I made one blu ray with a very similar (little easier to follow) tutorial and got sucess.

I just had one problem. I choose yellow subtitles on tsmuxer, but when everything is done and I am able to test the blu ray on tmt5, it appears green subs (just like those dvd guides when appears strange subs color after vobblanker and you need to change by dvdsubedit). So I would like to know if anyone can help me to change the subs to yellow color, if there´s some software like dvdsubedit but for blu ray, or I need always to set my subs on default white color?


thanks

[thetrooper23]

"today I made one blu ray with a very similar (little easier to follow) tutorial and got sucess."

you have a link to this tutorial ? (Thx)

i tried to made this operation but when i launch my movie from the menu.... nothing.... :( :(
(i try to add a subtitle). i've post my question in other thread. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=140090 )
sorry if i made a mistake !

[SquallMX]

hi there.


today I made one blu ray with a very similar (little easier to follow) tutorial and got sucess.

I just had one problem. I choose yellow subtitles on tsmuxer, but when everything is done and I am able to test the blu ray on tmt5, it appears green subs (just like those dvd guides when appears strange subs color after vobblanker and you need to change by dvdsubedit). So I would like to know if anyone can help me to change the subs to yellow color, if there´s some software like dvdsubedit but for blu ray, or I need always to set my subs on default white color?

thanks

TSMuxer GUI has a bug with the subtitle color settings, you can use easySUP to generate better looking subtitles with the correct color. Otherwise you can use BDSup2sub to change the subtitle color of the stream created by TSMuxer.

[thetrooper23]

I've made a copy of chapters using Bdedit and putting in tsmuxer ..

How made this operation ???
Friendly

[thetrooper23]

Phase 2.

I Tried to make this tuto. i've a little problem...
when i tame my mpls in Ts muxer, i've not my chapter list when i clic on Custom (step 4). i've made all the step but not the Bdinfo (i don't understand this soft).

I've my Menus ! :)
i start my movie...

Nothing.. (counter is ok but not image and sound)

but when i change the chapter from the menu, all is fine... since the Chapter 3 ! (with green subtitle but is not important...) . (10 Min after Black Frame...)

anyone can help me ?

Friendly and sorry for my bad english.
:p


---- EDIT ---

After verification... my movie star 10 Min after black frame !
and when i used BDedit... same thing !!!

[thetrooper23]

Another question... how use BDedit for start the disc directly at the Menu ?

[paradoxical]

The link to the "bluray.bat" file no longer works. Can it be reposted somewhere? Thanks.

[antonny19]

please help
Anyone know how to do this with a Full 3D bluray?
thanks

[xleox]

Hi, I had a problem.

I suceed making subs with tsmuxer. The movie plays fine, every chapter is right, extras, menus, everything. I just had one annoying problem.

the pop up menu doesn´t work (it was like it´s disabled). This pop up menu is not a very big deal on watching the movie, but, this step is the only thing that I still need to make a PERFECT blu ray with subs added.

So I would like to know if it´s normal that this thing happen or there´s something I can do to have the pop up menu too.

[rick090]

the pop up menu doesn´t work (it was like it´s disabled).
If this is BDMV title and not BD-J, you should load it in BDEdit and add the corresponding M2TS file that holds the menu, in the SubPath section.

[faust1103]

Hi,

I am trying to replace an Audio Track with a remastered Audio using the same technique as with the subtitles.


Maybe you can help me out.

I tried to mux the new and improved DTS track into aBluRay (and replacing the original english DTS-HD-MA track) by using TS Muxer GUI.

In the original BluRay the movie is split into several m2ts files (00882mts -00889m2ts).

When I remux the movie with the new audio I get one large ts file (with the whole movie).

This large remuxed ts file I use to replace the several original smaller ts video files in the original BluRay structure.

I rename the new large video ts file to 00882m2ts (first of the multi files from movie).

I delete the smaller video files (00883mts -00889m2ts) then as they are no longer needed.

I have a problem editing the playlist (mpls files 00800mpls - 00852mpls) in the original BluRay so that the new remuxed videostream is played properly.

I am using BDedit for this.

I cannot seem to delete the several old video files (00883mts to 00889m2ts) from the playlist mpls.
I other words the resulting BluRay not only wants to play the new large file (new 00882m2ts) but also the smaller (deleted) files (00883mts -00889m2ts). I cannot seem to get rid of those from the playlist.

I am not sure what I am doing wrong.


http://s14.directupload.net/images/130812/3yfcczml.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

I need to get rid of the files in the red circle. Thanks.

[no-one]

I have Theatrical (801.mpls) and Extended (800.mpls) in one disc. Each mpls has several m2ts. I want to add a subtitle and sound on a Blu-Ray Disc keeping the original menu. I already read your gudie . It's not problem for one m2ts or one version several m2ts. But my case is two version serveral m2ts. I want to keep both versions. If i use tsmuxer,it will merge all m2ts in one m2ts. So i will have 2 huge m2ts for theatrical and extended.
It is biger than 50G. How should i do? Which Program should i do it? Please guide me.

Example:

Theatrical Cut 801.mpls has
600.m2ts
.
.
.
645.m2ts

Extended Cut 800.mpls has
600.m2ts
646.m2ts
602.m2ts
647.m2ts
.
.
.
.
645.m2ts
668.m2ts

[Cedvano]

You can create the movie with Extended Cut.
But for the 801.mpls (Theatrical Cut), you specify the time of movie.
Ex:
Theatrical: 1:30:00
Extended: 1:45:00

800 mpls end movie 1:30:00
801 mpls end movie 1:45:00

[rlaci]

Hello guys!

I have just came across the same problem as above no-one did. I have a movie with 3 different verison on a disc with several m2ts. If I go through the method(I'd like to replace audio and subtitle as well) I got one big file with tsmuxergui and I cannot replace it with the original. Is there any chance to get these files separatly like in the original? Or is there any other program which I can use for this?
I hope you can help me out, because i have been struggle on this for a little while now. Thanks a lot!

[DjPump]

Hi,

I am trying to replace an Audio Track with a remastered Audio using the same technique as with the subtitles.


Maybe you can help me out.

I tried to mux the new and improved DTS track into aBluRay (and replacing the original english DTS-HD-MA track) by using TS Muxer GUI.

In the original BluRay the movie is split into several m2ts files (00882mts -00889m2ts).

When I remux the movie with the new audio I get one large ts file (with the whole movie).

This large remuxed ts file I use to replace the several original smaller ts video files in the original BluRay structure.

I rename the new large video ts file to 00882m2ts (first of the multi files from movie).

I delete the smaller video files (00883mts -00889m2ts) then as they are no longer needed.

I have a problem editing the playlist (mpls files 00800mpls - 00852mpls) in the original BluRay so that the new remuxed videostream is played properly.

I am using BDedit for this.

I cannot seem to delete the several old video files (00883mts to 00889m2ts) from the playlist mpls.
I other words the resulting BluRay not only wants to play the new large file (new 00882m2ts) but also the smaller (deleted) files (00883mts -00889m2ts). I cannot seem to get rid of those from the playlist.

I am not sure what I am doing wrong.


http://s14.directupload.net/images/130812/3yfcczml.jpg (http://www.directupload.net)

I need to get rid of the files in the red circle. Thanks.

i'm trying to do the same but without replacing the file on bd, what i've done is following method, I have load in TSMuxerGui all the m2ts contained on the mpls file, just the m2ts files then with demuxed audio and subs placed over each m2ts file according each episode muxed and it produce a big m2ts file (setting merging as bluray folder) then I have load the mpls builded with bdedit and found that all is settled audios and sub but when i build the complete structure of the BD with the files which contains menu..extras..etc it not works properly, what i managed is a BD which start correctly with presentation or opening but then when episodes shoud starts...i got a black screen...
I can't at least till today figure out how to do for adding audios and subs to a BD without losing original menu, i think the very big problem is the mpls which contains in just one file all the m2ts files with timming at first for all the episodes and then under this one, one for each episode but compiled just in a simple mpls file...
hope someone can give us a light with this....
Thanks!!

[denisfml]

Hello! Thank you very much for this post, it really helped me. And I found it's easier to add subtitles in blu-rays than in DVDs.
At first, sorry for any english mistakes. I would like to know one thing: there's a way to configure in TSMuxer (or other program, or with a line of command) to put some sentences of the subtitles on the top of the screen? It's for the scenes with credits. Again, thanks.

[badtour]

Hello. Can anyone reupload bluray.bat?
I can't get this :(

[TheRambler]

Hi guys
Might be a double post but...
I came across issues with LPCM sound 'only?' on some BR having a "special" structure. If you have the mpls directly linked to the movie m2ts no issue but some studios add an intro before the m2ts containing the movie. For instance you have one mpls linked to 3 m2ts. The main movie being the second. It looks like a seamless disc but it isn't really maybe. Someone more experienced could tell. TsMuxer sometimes imports the sound through the main movie mpls but you'll get a noise or a problem playing the Br on a standalone player in the end. This sound is flawed.
The trick as said in a previous post is to demux the streams using Vegas or another NLE or DVD Audio extractor (great tool) and synchronize the sound with the movie adding the necessary amount of extra sound on Vegas and export the file in the appropriate standard to inject it in TsMuxer. Applying delay in TsMuxer didn't give results. Demuxing with TsMuxer or Clown and using the files failed too. I don't know why. But anyway you have to apply the delay to the subtitles file only, this delay is the running time of your file(s) before the movie. Then you follow the standard procedure replacing the clpi in the original ripp and the m2ts and do the 10.000 procedure with BDedit. Don't forget to click on the + to add a PG (subtitles) and choose the appropriate language in the main movie mpls. And hit SAVE. Remove the duplicated mpls file.
Apply the the Blu ray bat, Img burn etc.
Has anyone encountered the problem with LPCM sound only?

[GuyPsy]

Hello. Can anyone reupload bluray.bat?
I can't get this :(

Here you go man (http://www46.zippyshare.com/v/PvJQhol7/file.html)

[Strigoyu]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRH8...ature=youtu.be


I've just uploaded a 480p encode of "Brides of Dracula". Can someone notice those "flashes" on the image? Well, those flashes are not part of the original image on the Blu. They appear when I remux the movie (TSMuxer), choosing 00000 from the playlist, which points at the main movie stream. I mean, it's not an issue of encoding, they are present on the 1080p remux.

On the other hand, I've been using the method described on the first post for a long time. However, I've sometimes come across some Blus which are quite hard to customize. For instance, "Brides of Dracula", Final Cut Ent. Edition. And the problem is similar: strange "flashes" on the image once I remux the video inserting a new audio track (Spanish). Any idea on how to handle this problem?

[Sharc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRH8...ature=youtu.be


I've just uploaded a 480p encode of "Brides of Dracula". Can someone notice those "flashes" on the image? Well, those flashes are not part of the original image on the Blu. They appear when I remux the movie (TSMuxer), choosing 00000 from the playlist, which points at the main movie stream. I mean, it's not an issue of encoding, they are present on the 1080p remux.

On the other hand, I've been using the method described on the first post for a long time. However, I've sometimes come across some Blus which are quite hard to customize. For instance, "Brides of Dracula", Final Cut Ent. Edition. And the problem is similar: strange "flashes" on the image once I remux the video inserting a new audio track (Spanish). Any idea on how to handle this problem?

Message:
This video does not exist.

And stop crossposting and uploading to YouTube.
Upload a small sample (1s) to MediaFire or a similar filehoster, or share a link to your dropbox, if you want help.

[sirig]

Would someone be so kind and re-upload bluray.bat?
Thanks in advance!

[merceg100]

Has anyone tried adding subtitles to 2160p blu ray structure? If so is it the same procedure as with 1080p?

[Maal656]

Would someone be so kind and re-upload bluray.bat?
Thanks in advance!

I would also need this file, or better copy its content and paste here, as it is an editable file.

[thinredline]

Hello.
thank you very much for this guide, I'm just doing my first effort and will see how that goes.
I have a question:
it seems tsmuxer can't add ASS files for the subtitles.
But I have some such files where the subtitle is stylised or it may contain some subtitles for a sign or something in another part of the screen.
What happens with such files?

Can i convert them to image files and load those to tsmuxer?

[Ghitulescu]

Can i convert them to image files and load those to tsmuxer?

yes . . .

[thinredline]

yes . . .

Thanks. With what software?
I tried this but it doesn't work:
https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=148030
I get that same error: https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1395619#post1395619

Also, I just finished and I think I did something wrong.
Why do we put 00:10:00.00 in the IN in BDedit?

The film started from the 10 minute mark from the beginning and it cut the last 10 minutes.

[Ghitulescu]

Thanks. With what software?
I do not know, as I do not use ASS/SSA.
However, if you use them, you should be aware of the tools that process such files. Because, me thinks, this is why you use ASS in the first place, that you can work with them....

But once you have them as XML+PNG, you can convert them easily to BD sups. Ans tsmuxer accepts them, too.

Why do we put 00:10:00.00 in the IN in BDedit?

The film started from the 10 minute mark from the beginning and it cut the last 10 minutes.
Why starts at 10 was explained in the corresponding thread. You should not need to change it, in particular when you do not know what you are doing.

[goal1664]

Without a working bluray.bat link, all the guide is useless :devil:

[ccsoon]

Hello.
thank you very much for this guide, I'm just doing my first effort and will see how that goes.
I have a question:
it seems tsmuxer can't add ASS files for the subtitles.
But I have some such files where the subtitle is stylised or it may contain some subtitles for a sign or something in another part of the screen.
What happens with such files?

Can i convert them to image files and load those to tsmuxer?
Use easySUP https://www.videohelp.com/software/easySUP and add your srt file in it and export it as "BD SUP"

[tandi]

hi, got problem here


http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/09/fc/7d/90b863980245064.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/90b863980245064)

http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/10/4c/a7/2fb8b9980245084.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/2fb8b9980245084)

http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/ea/0b/d6/548f79980245134.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/548f79980245134)

http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/92/72/43/944660980245164.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/944660980245164)

which mpls shoud tsmuxer use ?

if use 00099.mpls ( the original didn't have 00099 to replace after remux )
if use 00813.mpls the duration is 02:00:14 , the right duration is 02:14:46

[Ghitulescu]

hi, got problem here


http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/09/fc/7d/90b863980245064.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/90b863980245064)

which mpls shoud tsmuxer use ?

if use 00813.mpls the duration is 02:00:14 , the right duration is 02:14:46

which one you want - tsmuxer is not smart enough to read your mind and select the right movie according to your criteria.

These being said, in many movies, the 800 corresponds to the main movie in english, whereas the subsequent vary according to the edition of the movie, being wither versions in foreign languages or alternative cuts.

[tandi]

it only contain 1 movie

that why i confused
bdedit said 00099 ( the movie duration is correct 02:14:46 )

but if i tsmuxer using 00099, i should copy dan replace the original right ?, but in original it didnt have 00099.m2ts and didnt have 00099.clpi

if i using 00813 ( the duration only 02:00:14 )

[ocean]

Hi tandi, as he said Ghitulescu it is generally 00800.mpls, rename 00099.mpls in 00800.mpls, delete 00800.mpls original, do the same thing with the clpi file.

[tandi]

ocean, sorry still confused
so like this

in original file, there were :
- 00099.mpls
- 00800.mpls
- 00813.m2ts

in original file , didn't have :
- 00099.clpi
- 00800.clpi

so i delete 00800.mpls and rename 00099.mpls become 00800.mpls ?
then i add 00800.mpls in tsmuxer ( then add new subtitle )
after muxing,
- copy 00800.clpi to original file
- delete 00813.m2ts original dan copy 00800.m2ts to original file

is it that way ? or i am wrong ?

[ocean]

so i delete 00800.mpls and rename 00099.mpls become 00800.mpls ?

Yes, always make a save.


then i add 00800.mpls in tsmuxer ( then add new subtitle )
after muxing, copy 00800.clpi to original file
- delete 00813.m2ts original dan copy 00800.m2ts to original file

Yes, delete after muxing: 00813.m2ts+00812.m2ts+00811.m2ts+00810.m2ts and clpi same number.

[tandi]

hi , ocean
i already follow the steps
- delete 00800.mpls and rename 00099.mpls become 00800.mpls
- delete after muxing: 00813.m2ts+00812.m2ts+00811.m2ts+00810.m2ts and clpi same number
- copy 00800.m2ts to original file

but when i play the movie, it just blank


* thanks Ghitulescu for your help
* special thanks a lot for Ocean , that help me solve all the problem, all good now :)

[adamantcheese]

Hey all, probably should have posted in this thread when I made that tool for getting around Scenarist. You can find it here. (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=175734) Combined with using a free image editor like GIMP, you should be able to edit IG menus without any commercial tools.

[mandeajupanu]

hi, got problem here


http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/09/fc/7d/90b863980245064.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/90b863980245064)

http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/10/4c/a7/2fb8b9980245084.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/2fb8b9980245084)

http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/ea/0b/d6/548f79980245134.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/548f79980245134)

http://thumbs2.imagebam.com/92/72/43/944660980245164.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/944660980245164)

which mpls shoud tsmuxer use ?

if use 00099.mpls ( the original didn't have 00099 to replace after remux )
if use 00813.mpls the duration is 02:00:14 , the right duration is 02:14:46

i had the same problem with a lot of Bluray editing and the solucion was BDFix Pro

[psideras]

2. Some discs have the video split across multiple *.m2ts files. This discs are containing the Rated and Unrated version, or some extra titles. When you come across one of them, DO NOT USE tsMuxer directly, because tsMuxer does not handle well seamless branched discs. First demux the streams with CLOWN BD ( it's a pretty intuitive program ) and then feed them into tsMuxer. You'll find the demuxed streams in "eac3to output" folder. For chapters, copy the text from chapters.txt that results after demuxing with CLOWN BD, only the time values. Like this: http://thumbnails25.imagebam.com/5999/5e8a1059983645.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/5e8a1059983645) The rest remains exactly the same. Be sure to insert the streams in the correct order.

[/b]

Hello,
I have a disk with the main movie split at many m2ts. I used the clown bd to demux the streams and now I have to remux them with the subtitle that I want to replace. But how can we make it split at the same multiple files as the original bluray?

[Treaties Of Warp]

Without a working bluray.bat link, all the guide is useless :devil:

Agreed. Can't believe this. It's a batch file. Just paste it to the thread via code tags.

Trying to add subs and am blocked by not having the batch file.

[maczones]

Not sure if this question has been previously addressed but hope it can be answered, so here it is:

I have a movie that originally came without subtitles. I went ahead and added an English subtitle using tsMuxer as instructed but when I play the movie it is very jerky and unstable. Since this movie did not originally have subtitles, is there something extra I need to do when adding the subtitle or is this impossible to do under these circumstances?

TIA
Mac

[Gabriel88]

Hi,
Please tell me if there is a similar guide for adding subtitles on a 4k (UHD) Blu-ray Disc and keeping the original menu.
Thank you

[FilipeAmadeuO]

Hi,
Please tell me if there is a similar guide for adding subtitles on a 4k (UHD) Blu-ray Disc and keeping the original menu.
Thank you
The procedure is exactly the same.

[Gabriel88]

The procedure is exactly the same.

Many thanks you for your reply.
Please indicate the links for the programs you use and are compatible with 4k (UHD) Blu-ray Disc:
1. Ts Muxer
2. Bd Info
3. BD Edit
4. Other programs.

Thank you.

[maxibon]

The procedure doesn't work; BDedit UHD compatible is needed
I´ve done some works and subtitles and chapter selection doesn´t work properly.

[Gabriel88]

Today I received BdEdit0.46 - UHD.
I made a 10 Eur donation on the site http://bdedit.pel.hu/.
I sent a follow-up email to info@pel.hu with the donation and I received a download link.
The program is very good.
Now we have 3 programs needed to author UHD Bluray:
BdEdit0.46
BDInfo.exe - v 0.7.5.5
tsMuxeR_2.6.15 Beta

I already added a subtitle to a UHD Bluray and it works fine.
Thank you

[wsigma]

Anyone have the bluray.bat file? The link is down. please!!!

[AVX]

thanks

[Coen]

Does anyone have the bluray.bat file? Thanks!!

[Strigoyu]

Hi, guys! How can I handle a Bluray with the following structure?:

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It is not allowed duplicated post. See https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1928606#post1928606

[ocean]

Hi Strigoyu, Absolution disc with playlist obfuscation, use program that finds the real main playlist.

[Strigoyu]

Hi, again! Thanks for your reply, ocean. I solved the problem. It was very easy, since the correct playlists was (and is) in the "disc.inf" file. Now there is another problem: since the Bluray disc uses a seamless branch structure, I'd like to remove one of the two versions of the movie, that is, the shortest one, of course, and keep the longest one. Is there any tool that can do this and keep the original menus intact? Thanks in advance.

[ocean]

Well, use DGDemux, thanks to videoh excellent program, loading the main playlist of the longest movie, the program automatically finds the m2ts segments that make up the movie, then follow this guide, post 4:

https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1252686#post1252686

[Ghitulescu]

Now there is another problem: since the Bluray disc uses a seamless branch structure, I'd like to remove one of the two versions of the movie, that is, the shortest one, of course, and keep the longest one. Is there any tool that can do this and keep the original menus intact? Thanks in advance.

All of them do, one only needs to know what playlist to keep :)

[malimuc]

How could I change the subtitles in the movie: Halloween.Kills.2021.2in1.1080p.BluRay.AVC.TrueHD.7.1.Atmos-iNTEGRUM without changing the movie size (37.58 GB)? I wish both the Extend and Theatrical versions in the movie. I tried with MultiAVCHD but I got a movie size of about 90GB! Can you give some advice, help, or link ...

Best regards to all

[giavra]

there is people asking for the bat file since 2013 can someone who use the program so far to provide that?