Guide for adding a subtitle on a Blu-Ray Disc keeping the original menu

[tandi]

ok thanks you

[Ghitulescu]

Character codes have been and still are an issue.

After several weeks of trial&error experiments on various computers (this is actually where most developers fail, to test a SW at least once on a different system) I think I managed to find a solution to subtitles in other languages than English ([I]ie outside those 26 letters). This solution will work also in a computer without the code pages for the language and font characters used.

TsMuxeR accepts Unicode-encoded SRTs. However, the font used in the settings must be unicode (all MS fonts with unicode in their name, like Arial Unicode MS).

[Gabriel88]

I used Clown BD for a disc with the video split across multiple *.m2ts files.
I obtained a BDMV structure containing a big M2ts (containing the whole movie), which is made automatically by the tsMuxer.
Unfortunately the BDMV does not have any menu.
I also obtained the demuxed streams.
Now, could you please tell me what are the next steps to add the subtitle and more important how to keep the original menu.
Please tell me what I should delete/replace from the Original disc and what should I keep.
I assume I should put the big m2ts file instead the multiple m2ts files (delete the multiple m2ts files).
What should I do with the clpi, mpls, files from the Original disc.
Which should I keep, which should I delete/replace!?

[crl2007]

It is written in the first post. You'll find all the steps there.

[Gabriel88]

Sorry, but it does not answer my questions. Maybe you said something somewhere else!?

"Some discs have the video split across multiple *.m2ts files. This discs are containing the Rated and Unrated version, or some extra titles. When you come across one of them, DO NOT USE tsMuxer directly, because tsMuxer does not handle well seamless branched discs. First demux the streams with CLOWN BD ( it's a pretty intuitive program ) and then feed them into tsMuxer. You'll find the demuxed streams in "eac3to output" folder. For chapters, copy the text from chapters.txt that results after demuxing with CLOWN BD, only the time values. Like this: The rest remains exactly the same. Be sure to insert the streams in the correct order."

As you can see there is nothing about adding a subtitle, nothing about deleting the unnecessary m2ts streams, nothing about clpi to delete or to keep, mpls to replace, etc.
Please tell me if it is possible to keep the menu using this method!?
Thank you for giving an answer to the am questions, if possible.

[crl2007]

And after you do that you do what you normally do with an edited bd m2ts. It's all in the guide. Every step. Instead of remuxing it with tsmuxer, you remux it with clownbd that uses eac3to. But nothing else changes.

[Gabriel88]

Please tell me if it is possible to keep the menu using this method!?
The resulted bluray does not seem to have a menu.
Thanks,

[crl2007]

OMFG... Yes, of course. You just add a subtitle to the resulted bd and replace the original files with these files. ( only the m2ts and clpi and mpls )

[Gabriel88]

Hi again,
The resulted Bluray has only 1 mpls, 1 clpi and 1 m2ts respectively:
00000.mpls
00000.clpi
00000.m2ts
Please tell me if I should replace
00000.mpls should replace 5 mpls
00000.clpi should replace 5 clpi
00000.m2ts should replace 5 m2ts in the Original folder!?
(this is just an example)
How do I figure out which ones to be replaced in the Original folder (Bdinfo maybe)!?
Thank you so much!

[crl2007]

It's clear that you did not read a word from my guide. You can find out by reading the first section of the guide.

[Gabriel88]

Not so clear, I am afraid.
I already added subtitles to more than 30 blurays so far, thanks to you.
All of the 30 blurays had only 1 m2ts and it was easy, also it was very well explained by you.
When it comes to multiple m2ts the guide is so vague, not so much explanation.
Anyway, sorry to bother you.
Thank you for your time.

[crl2007]

It's not vague. You treat'em like any other discs. You just convert the multiple m2ts in one m2ts with clownbd and then you add subtitle to the one made with clownbd and replace in the original one the mpls, the clpi with the ones you created and you just copy the m2ts. Then you delete all the little m2ts files that were part of the original, so that you don't get a double size BD disc.

[Gabriel88]

This part I understand, but something is missing from the explanation, from my point of view.
Maybe I should give the real example.
I choose a very simple example.
The movie is the Last Waltz.
From the BDinfo we have the following info:
00009.mpls which is responsible for the below 2 *.m2ts
00008.m2ts
00009.m2ts

00008.mpls which is responsible for the below one *.m2ts
00009.m2ts

00007.mpls which is responsible for the below one *.m2ts
00008.m2ts
----------------------------------------------------------------------

form the remuxed folder we have:
00000.clpi
00000.m2ts
00000.mpls

----------------------------------------------------------------------

I tried to rename the
00000.mpls -> 00009.mpls and replace the original 00009.mpls
00000.clpi -> 00008.clpi and replace the original 00008.clpi
00000.m2ts -> 00008.m2ts and replace the original 00008.m2ts
I deleted the 00009.m2ts
The logic was to follow the first mpls in the Bdinfo (00009.mpls)
Unfortunately the movie does not start, only the menu is working, then it repeats the menu, endless loop.
Please tell me what logic should I follow in this case and in the future cases.
Thank you.

[crl2007]

It should work if you did what you said there.

[Gabriel88]

Ok, I will try once again, from the beginning.
I delete all the work and start from the beginning.
Maybe I messed up something somewhere.
Thanks.

[Gabriel88]

Nope, it does not work.
The same behaviour, menu is playing in endless loop.
Should I try to leave the original 00009.mpls in place and edit the in time "10" with Bdedit!?
Thanks,
Cheers

[Gabriel88]

If I leave the original 00009.MPLS in place the movie starts and play only until reaches the half of the movie, then it stops.
Most probably that it can not find the 00009.m2ts and it stops.

[Gabriel88]

I tried the last night many different possibilities of replacing/renaming the clpi, mpls and m2ts.
None works.
The best result is playing the first half of the movie.
00008.m2ts has approx 10 GB
00009.m2ts has approx 10 GB

I replaced with the new created 00000.m2ts (renamed to 00008.m2ts) which has approx 20GB.
I deleted the 00009.m2ts.
I guess somehow the movie needs the 00009.m2ts and it can not find.
It stops at the middle of the movie.
This is the problem.
Thanks.

[crl2007]

You did something wrong while editing the mpls.

[Gabriel88]

Please see my last post.
I did not edit the mpls.
Could you please tell me if there is a rule:
-which mpls to replace in the original folder!? (i.e. the lowest number-name)
-which clpi to replace in the original folder!? (i.e. the lowest number-name)
-which m2ts to replace in the original folder!? (i.e. the lowest number-name)
If you do not understand the question, because my English is not good, I can ask you in Romanian in the Romanian section.
Thank you.

[Gabriel88]

"It's not vague. You treat'em like any other discs. You just convert the multiple m2ts in one m2ts with clownbd and then you add subtitle to the one made with clownbd and replace in the original one the mpls, the clpi with the ones you created and you just copy the m2ts. Then you delete all the little m2ts files that were part of the original, so that you don't get a double size BD disc."
You did not say "EDIT", you said "REPLACE".
I did exactly what you said.
Now you say I should have EDITED the mpls, not REPLACE!?
Thank you.

[crl2007]

If you have more than one mpls for the movie, you should replace them all with the edited one. You rename the edited one like the first original one - replace it - rename the edited mpls again as the second original one - replace this one too etc.

It does not matter which clpi from those too you replace, as long as it matches the mpls and m2ts. When you edit a disc, you can't just make 00000.m2ts, mpls and clpi, you have to use their original numbering, because you'll end up with a clpi that asks for 00000 instead of let's say 00008 and the mpls will ask for the same 00000 m2ts.

It's all written in the guide. As far as for the edit goes, I've explained in the last portion of the guide how to edit the mpls with bdedit.

If you have further questions, please PM me in Romanian and we'll sort this out.

[Ghitulescu]

"It's not vague. You treat'em like any other discs. You just convert the multiple m2ts in one m2ts with clownbd and then you add subtitle to the one made with clownbd and replace in the original one the mpls, the clpi with the ones you created and you just copy the m2ts. Then you delete all the little m2ts files that were part of the original, so that you don't get a double size BD disc."
You did not say "EDIT", you said "REPLACE".
I did exactly what you said.
Now you say I should have EDITED the mpls, not REPLACE!?
Thank you.

It's magic how you managed to understand this "confused" :p guide to add subtitles to 30 other blu-rays.

[Gabriel88]

It's magic how you managed to understand this "confused" :p guide to add subtitles to 30 other blu-rays.

I did not say confused I said vague.
FYI a guide can not be confused, a guide can be, eventually, confusing.
It is not the case, here, the guide is excellent, only I feel that some more detailed info is necessary for me.
Only a person can be confused :-).
Have you tried a branched *.m2ts disc!?
Please try and you will see what I mean :-)

[Gabriel88]

If you have more than one mpls for the movie, you should replace them all with the edited one. You rename the edited one like the first original one - replace it - rename the edited mpls again as the second original one - replace this one too etc.

It does not matter which clpi from those too you replace, as long as it matches the mpls and m2ts. When you edit a disc, you can't just make 00000.m2ts, mpls and clpi, you have to use their original numbering, because you'll end up with a clpi that asks for 00000 instead of let's say 00008 and the mpls will ask for the same 00000 m2ts.

It's all written in the guide. As far as for the edit goes, I've explained in the last portion of the guide how to edit the mpls with bdedit.

If you have further questions, please PM me in Romanian and we'll sort this out.

Thank you for your time and for your kind answer.
When you say 'edit' the mpls you mean to put the chapters from the original bluray to the new mpls-s that were replaced.
(The in time editing is meaningless, because the mpls made by clown bd is already edited)
Thanks

[Ghitulescu]

Maybe I did :)
There is no 1:1 correlation between the ordinal number of a playlist and a clip + clipinfo ... see what I mean

[Gabriel88]

Of course it did not work. I forgot to edit the mpls-s to point to the big fat *m2ts.
Thank you crl2007!
If there is any option to make a donation, please let me know.
Cheers!

[crl2007]

I'm glad you found out what you overlooked. I do not accept donations. The developers of the software should be supported with as many donations a person can do. Without them we wouldn't have this possibilities.

[Gabriel88]

Hi,
I already made 3 Bluray movies that have the movie split accros many *m2ts.
All of them are working perfect on TMT 3 and Dune player.
Thank you.
There is a small issue.
I burned one of the movies on a Bluray Disc and tried to play in a standalone Bluray Player.
Unfortunately the movie does not start.

It is passing the menu, but then the movie it is not starting.
I guess the standalone bluray player is handling differently the movie than a file player, like TMT3.

If I put the disc in the computer Bluray Optical drive and play with TMT 3 it is playing without any problem.
Any idea, please.
Thank you.

[Ghitulescu]

All of them are working perfect on TMT 3 and Dune player.
Thank you.
There is a small issue.
I burned one of them on a Bluray Disc and tried to play in a standalone Bluray Player.
Unfortunately the movie does not start.
I guess the standalone bluray player is handling differently the movie than a file player, like TMT3.
Any idea, please.
No it doesn't (actually is supposed not to). It's just the way a SAP finds a file vs. windows. Some pointers are wrong.

[Gabriel88]

Is there any way to correct the pointers to point to the right direction, using BD Edit, maybe!?
Thanks.

[tandi]

hi, i got this error :

SmartLabs tsMuxeR. Version 1.10.6 http://www.smlabs.net
Decoding H264 stream (track 1): Profile: High@3.2 Resolution: 720:480p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding H264 stream (track 2): Profile: High@4.1 Resolution: 1920:1080p Frame rate: 23.976
H.264 stream does not contain fps field. Muxing fps=23.976
Decoding TRUE-HD stream (track 3): AC3 core+TRUE-HD. Peak bitrate: 6129Kbps (core 640Kbps) Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 4): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 5): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding AC3 stream (track 6): Bitrate: 640Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 6
Decoding PGS stream (track 14): Resolution: 720:480 Frame rate: 23.976
Decoding E-AC3 (DD+) stream (track 15): Bitrate: 224Kbps Sample Rate: 48KHz Channels: 2
Decoding PGS stream (track 8): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Change PGS resolution from 1920:1080 to 720:480. Scaling method: Bilinear interpolation
Decoding PGS stream (track 13): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Change PGS resolution from 1920:1080 to 720:480. Scaling method: Bilinear interpolation
Decoding PGS stream (track 7): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Change PGS resolution from 1920:1080 to 720:480. Scaling method: Bilinear interpolation
Decoding PGS stream (track 9): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Change PGS resolution from 1920:1080 to 720:480. Scaling method: Bilinear interpolation
Decoding PGS stream (track 10): Resolution: 1920:1080 Frame rate: 23.976
Change PGS resolution from 1920:1080 to 720:480. Scaling method: Bilinear interpolation

error :
Unexpected byte

please tell me where i do wrong ?

[crl2007]

Is your disc protected ? You can remove the protection with AnyDVD HD. If you downloaded the file, then I can't help you.

[rijnton]

crl2007 thanks for the excellent guide. I am glad I found it, because I was looking for something like for that a long time.
I have one question however. I wanted to add dutch subtitles to a Blu-Ray and placed them (in tsMuxer) instead of the french subtitles. I followed all the instructions exactly, replaced the .m2ts and the .clpi files and did exactly as you described in BDEdit and that resulted in a new Blu-Ray with the dutch subtitles and complete with the menu and all extra's. So far so good.
However when I right-click in TMT5 (that I use for Blu-Ray playback), I don't see dutch for subtitles and I have to choose french to get the dutch subtitles. Is this to be expected or did I something wrong ? Of course it is not a big problem, because I CAN get dutch subtitles and I have all the extra's and the menu.
Thanks in advance.

[crl2007]

No, you didn't do nothing wrong, you just forgot to rename the subtitle stream in BDEdit. Load your resulted blu-ray in BDEdit, go to PLAYLIST tab and on the right side you'll have a STN column. Choose PG from it and change french with dutch where you switched the subtitle.

[rijnton]

Thanks, that did it.

[crl2007]

You're welcome.

[qknet]

Thank you for your guide. It works for me without problem. I remove all unwanted audio, subtitles etc... and the BD still has a good menu.

But I would like to strip down also trailers, ads etc. Will this method help?

[Metalhero]

Hello, I'm new here! Thanks for the great tutorial.
I have a question, when I was adding a sub in a BD that didn't had any sub, the new subs added by me don't appears.
This problem happens only with ArcSoft TotalMedia Theatre 5 (I'm trying to test the disc with menus), when I play the disc with Media Player Classic or VLC, the subs appears. In other tests I have made, the movie don't play, shows only a black screen.

In BDInfo, there's a msg:

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec Bitrate Description
----- ------- -----------
MPEG-4 AVC Video 0 kbps 1080p / 23,976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
LPCM Audio Japanese 4608 kbps 5.1 / 48 kHz / 4608 kbps / 16-bit

SUBTITLES:

Codec Language Bitrate Description
----- -------- ------- -----------
* Presentation Graphics Portuguese 0,000 kbps
* Presentation Graphics English 0,000 kbps

So, the subs are hidden. I dont know how to change this, Can someone help me?

[crl2007]

You can use BDEdit.

[Strigoyu]

Hi, mates! My name is José, I am Spanish and I'll try to do my best to explain my problem and make myself clear.

I want to add Spanish audio and subtitle tracks to a Blu Ray. The fact is that the Blu Ray that I 've come across is a "seamless branch" one, that is, a Blu Ray disc with the movie split in several ".m2ts" files (in this case, it goes from "00006", the first one, to "00014", but not exactly in this order, though...): the Blu Ray comes with two versions of the movie: a longer one and a shorter one. Of course, I've already read the guide and I've done what it is described, that is, I demuxed the longer version (the one I want to work with) with Clown_BD. But now I really don't want to make more moves or steps since I have seen that I get a "Video_2.h264" file which is very very long, I mean, it comprises the multiple ".m2ts" files that correspond to the longer version.

My question is: what do I have to do now to add my Spanish and subtitle tracks (apart from the Audio and subtitle tracks that I want to keep) in order to get several ".m2ts" files (just like in the original Blu Ray structure)? As I said before, I've read the guide, but I really don't know what's next... I think I'm stuck... Could anyone help, please? Thanks in advance!!!

[sreemv]

Great tutorial! No doubt!

But, I have a hard time understanding step 9:


9. Open your "Original" folder in BDEdit. Go to PLAYLIST Tab and find the main movie mpls. After you find it, do the following:

If a Blu-Ray has 2 mpls for the main movie, do the same for both of them. For discs to work with TMT 5 you have to copy the IN_OUT Times and chapters from the mpls created with tsmuxer in the one you edit with BDEdit.

Additional information for the BDs with the movie split in several m2ts files: The same method applies for them as well. Write in tsMuxer the number of the playlist and, then, the number of the first m2ts contained. For these discs you will have to skip step 9 and copy the remuxed mpls in your "Original" folder. Go to X:\Workspace\Remuxed\BDMV\PLAYLIST and CUT the 00003.mpls file ( example ). Go to X:\Workspace\Original\BDMV\PLAYLIST and PASTE this file here. Press OK for replacement.


Very confusing to say the least - can someone please clarify?

especially this part "copy the IN_OUT Times and chapters from the mpls created with tsmuxer in the one you edit with BDEdit" - what are we copying and from where to where??

[Capsbackup]

Great tutorial! No doubt!

But, I have a hard time understanding step 9:



Very confusing to say the least - can someone please clarify?

especially this part "copy the IN_OUT Times and chapters from the mpls created with tsmuxer in the one you edit with BDEdit" - what are we copying and from where to where??

I hope this helps, but be warned I struggle with BDEdit. :rolleyes:
Some original authored Blu-rays have IN Times/OUT Times that start with different numbers than ones authored with tsMuxeR. To check this, open two instances of BDEdit, one with your original file and one with your authored file. Click the Playlist tab for both instances and select the correct mpls number of the original and your authored one. Note the In time, Out time and length. In time may start with 00:10:00.000 or 00:11:650.000, etc... Pay attention to this. If your tsMuxer file has different IN_Out times from your original, which it most likely will, the original mpls file will need to be corrected to match your tsMuxeR one.( Thus copy IN_OUT Times) ;)

[sreemv]

I hope this helps, but be warned I struggle with BDEdit. :rolleyes:
Some original authored Blu-rays have IN Times/OUT Times that start with different numbers than ones authored with tsMuxeR. To check this, open two instances of BDEdit, one with your original file and one with your authored file. Click the Playlist tab for both instances and select the correct mpls number of the original and your authored one. Note the In time, Out time and length. In time may start with 00:10:00.000 or 00:11:650.000, etc... Pay attention to this. If your tsMuxer file has different IN_Out times from your original, which it most likely will, the original mpls file will need to be corrected to match your tsMuxeR one.( Thus copy IN_OUT Times) ;)

Thank you! Makes sense now!

[pastrulox]

Hello!
Im worked with your guide in lots of movies and works very good, movies with ONE MPLS and ONE M2TS, no errors always wins.
Now i want to work some anime blurays with multiple episodes and i have the following problem: The Bluray discs only have ONE MPLS for 2 M2TS (or maybe 3,4), NO 1 mpls for every chapter.
In you guide says : "In most cases, the structure is this: 1 big mpls that contains all 3 episodes and 1 or two mpls files for each individual episode. WE WILL NOT INSERT THE BIG MPLS IN TSMUXER. NEVER ! "
What can i do in the case the BIG MPLS is the only one containing the episodes?
I need individual subs for every ep. or a big continued sub for all the eps?
Im tryed several combinations but not work, i know im failing in some, can you guide me?
http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k230/bellotax/Dibujo.jpg
Thanks

[pastrulox]

Nobody?

[jediknight]

I did everything right. But when i select subtitle, subtitle never shows :(. I can play movie but i cant see subtitle. i did everything right. i did over 10 BD disc with this method.

This discs is really interesting. Have 3 mpls for main movie. I did everything right but i cant see my subtitles :(.

What is the worng i dont understand :(

[EAGLE-1]

hello guys,well my native language is spanish, i will try to explain myself,really thanks for any help!
i try this and many others tutorials about add subtitles to a full blu ray and always get the exact same problem,the movie cut 10 minutes before the real end!,for example after i make all the steps and play the new blu ray all work perfect,the menu,the subtitles,everything,but i notice 2 problems,first you cant skip scenes,and the most major problem is the movie finish 10 exact minutes before the real end time,when i play the movie,the blu ray timer show 10 minutes running time when actually the movie just start! and the remuxed mts with the new subtitles have 2gb less that th original m2ts!
i try many times with many movies and many subtitles and the same problem happen,i really apreciate any help in this matter,really sorry for my bad english guys

[crl2007]

It seems that you didn't edit the mpls. The edited movies have an IN_Time of 10 minutes and the original ones have 0.XXX ms. You have to use my guide and edit the correct mpls with the correct IN_Time.

[EAGLE-1]

It seems that you didn't edit the mpls. The edited movies have an IN_Time of 10 minutes and the original ones have 0.XXX ms. You have to use my guide and edit the correct mpls with the correct IN_Time.

hi,thanks for the answer,this same guide you say?? because i make all the steps and always get the same problem,in any case can you please and help me? what step of this guide i doing wrong??

really thanks again for your help!