Inexpensive BD-R Media

[pan07]

i'm in the same situation as Capsbackup had a few of the ritek dye's no longer playable or readable.

i really should have known better after suffering the same fate with their dvdrs years ago and not touching them since.

will have to start ordering my discs from china again as premium meida is impossible to get at a decent price in the uk

[DVDIT]

i'm in the same situation as Capsbackup had a few of the ritek dye's no longer playable or readable.

i really should have known better after suffering the same fate with their dvdrs years ago and not touching them since.

will have to start ordering my discs from china again as premium meida is impossible to get at a decent price in the uk

Check out these vendors based in Japan that sell through ebay (store name - (From Japan Gift" & "u-japan"). They have premium discs at a reasonable price. If that doesn't work out for you, buy direct from Japan from this vendor. His prices a bit expensive and choices are limited. >>>>
http://nikonekoya.com/a-v-electronics/recording/blu-ray/25gb-bd-r.html

I would stay away from LTH type media for now.

[pan07]

Check out these vendors based in Japan that sell through ebay (store name - (From Japan Gift" & "u-japan"). They have premium discs at a reasonable price. If that doesn't work out for you, buy direct from Japan from this vendor. His prices a bit expensive and choices are limited. >>>>
http://nikonekoya.com/a-v-electronics/recording/blu-ray/25gb-bd-r.html

I would stay away from LTH type media for now.

yeh cheers dvdit i ordered off nikonekoya before but got hammered at customs, it was part of the cdfreaks group buy, think i ordered to many about 50 in jewel cases.
i ordered some 50gb ones in sleeves other week of ebay only took a week to come and no custom charges.

oh and whats is lth media they have some verbs and thats bdr discs pretty cheap that say lth, should i avoid.

[DVDIT]

LTH discs are not compatible with all burners and players. If you want compatibility with all burners and set top players, skip the LTH media.

[CV91913]

I have been buying the Optical Quantum BD-R for quite some time now. Have probably gone through 50+ with no problems. They have a disk ID of "philip-r04-000". I just bought a 25 pack from Amazon for $25 delivered. Great price but these disks have a disk ID of "CMCMAG-BA3-00". These are mfg by CMC Magnetics. Has anyone had any experience with this disk ID??

[Capsbackup]

@CV91913;
What I have learned is that just because you have a successful burn and verify, that does not mean that the discs will last and be usable very long. Even if stored properly. I had only watched some of these discs once, and a few not all the way through but just tested and chapter advanced to the end. So only time will tell. ;)

[jdobbs]

I have been buying the Optical Quantum BD-R for quite some time now. Have probably gone through 50+ with no problems. They have a disk ID of "philip-r04-000". I just bought a 25 pack from Amazon for $25 delivered. Great price but these disks have a disk ID of "CMCMAG-BA3-00". These are mfg by CMC Magnetics. Has anyone had any experience with this disk ID?? I bought quite a few of them from MERITLINE.COM -- they worked well for me.

[DVDIT]

I have been buying the Optical Quantum BD-R for quite some time now. Have probably gone through 50+ with no problems. They have a disk ID of "philip-r04-000". I just bought a 25 pack from Amazon for $25 delivered. Great price but these disks have a disk ID of "CMCMAG-BA3-00". These are mfg by CMC Magnetics. Has anyone had any experience with this disk ID??

I bought a 10 pack TDK discs direct from Japan thinking I would get a TDK ID but the ID turned out to be CMCs, "CMCMAG-BA3-00" to be exact in the inside, while the outside surface has a TDK logo imprint. I burned all of them back in early 2010 and I did a quality check last week all are readable but don't have an a low LDC values as the Verbatim I use. I recently learned from a forum member at Club MyCE, discs with TDK ID can be found here for a $1.25/disc. Those seem to have a very low LDC and BIS values (same as the Verbatim) from the disc quality test results I have seen posted at several threads at MyCE. Discs can be purchased from here >>> http://www.mediamegamall.com/smartblu-m-260.html

[rysktkr]

I am considering verbatim after I have had several RITEK BR2 disk go bad on me:

Memorex (Blue disk) RITEK BR2 burned 6/09. Have had 7 disks fail out of 15.

RiData (silver disk) RITEK BR2 burned 6/09 had 1 disk fail out of 4 checked.

RiData (printable disk) RITEK BR2. The oldest I have of these are from 4/10. I have not yet seen any failures. Scanned 4 disk using Nero Disk Speed all 4 clean.

I am wondering if these Verbatims would give the longetivity I am looking for:

http://www.meritline.com/verbatim-4x...--p-30268.aspx

I want to stay away from the LTH as this is a relatively new technology and prefer not to be a guinea pig at a small savings. I have learned my lesson on that route .

[A.Fenderson]

Bad link.

LTH & organic dye really isn't a new tech, it's what they used in writeable DVDs, I believe--the problem is that it hasn't been in the BD standards from the beginning. I use a combination of Verbatim (HTL) 4x/6x BD-Rs and Verbatim LTH 2x BD-Rs, and so far I've had no problems with them. I know which of my devices will read/write LTH discs and which won't--admittedly, finding that out prior to actually testing the device yourself can be some trouble, but otherwise I think the Verbatim LTH discs are OK, though I haven't run any scans on any of my older burns yet...I'll do that and post back.

[DVDIT]

From what I have read set top players like the Sony S570 and Oppo players don't recognize LTH discs. These are reports I have read and I am sure there may be plenty others that don't play them not to mention your burner might not support LTH discs. They may be supported in the future though. Another thing to consider is the organic dye used in the LTH have less longevity that those used inorganic dye used in the HLT discs. More info about this can be found on the net. I personally have decided long ago to use Verbatim 96769 (MID:VERBAT-IMc-000) and burn @ 4X speed. Not a single coaster nor failing discs in 18 months so far. I check my discs with Nero Disc Speed and recently with Opti Drive control and I get a very low LDC (1-3) and BIS (0-1) values. These disc quality values represent great burns and the values stay the same after several months after burn which could be seen a good indicator of their longevity.


Here is the discs I use. Always buy them from here >>>>

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130047&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-CD/DVD+R/RW+Media-_-VERBATIM-_-17130047

[RobertM]

FWIW:

I have been trying out a pack of Verbatim BD-25 LTH discs, and they seem to be working fine. I burn with an LG WH10LS30, set ImageBurn to verify upon completion, and then validate with my Sony BDP-S380 (stepping through by chapter to the end). No coasters so far.

It could well be that the S570 won't read LTH; I dunno. But, based on my experience, I would bet that the S580 will.

Regards,
Bob

[A.Fenderson]

I scanned 6 of my BD-R LTH Verbatim 2x burns via Nero DiscSpeed 5, and they all came out 100% "Good", 0% "Bad" or "Damaged". These burns range in age between about 8 months minimum (for the ones I know when they were burned) and up to around 10 months. My burns are stored in translucent Blu-ray cases, upright on shelves, and don't receive any direct sunlight, but other than that no special care has been taken to maintain their condition. If anyone can recommend a different (free) means of scanning the quality of the discs, and they'd like the results, please let me know and I'll give it a shot.

[proxpilot]

i have had quite a few Memorex BD-R's become unreadable. im going to have to put them on the banned list.

[ripburnlearn]

Wow, its good to see a lot of people have been using Optical Quantum discs for a long time. I've been having this mental question for a couple weeks now: "I wonder how well these will last over time". It seems some of you have been using them for close to two years now. Could you tell me if you've had any read errors on this media? I think testing this old media with Nero DiscSpeed 5 would be a fantastic educational piece for everyone. I see people all across the internet wondering the same thing about Optical Quantum's BD-R longevity. So far I haven't burned a coaster, loving their discs right now.

I picked up some optical quantum discs the other day for 76 cents a disc! I would have shared with this community but I had to wait 5 days before I could post... :(

[thegame]

So are these Optical Quantum discs really any good? I always thought they were like an off brand or something, and I ONLY use Verbatim blanks for BD's, and DL DVD's, I mean I want to like them because they really priced good, so can someone tell me if these really hold up like the Verbatim blanks do?

Thanks

[geomtchr]

So are these Optical Quantum discs really any good? I always thought they were like an off brand or something, and I ONLY use Verbatim blanks for BD's, and DL DVD's, I mean I want to like them because they really priced good, so can someone tell me if these really hold up like the Verbatim blanks do?

Thanks

I've not had any problems with the Optical Quantum blu rays. Over 200 burns without any problems. I'v been using these for about 8 months without difficulty, hopefully they will last!

[setarip_old]

@ripburnlearn

Hi! I picked up some optical quantum discs the other day for 76 cents a disc! I would have shared with this community but I had to wait 5 days before I could post... And now that you ARE able to post, perhaps you can let us know where you acquired these Optical Quantum (I presume) BD-Rs...

[ripburnlearn]

@ripburnlearn

Hi! And now that you ARE able to post, perhaps you can let us know where you acquired these Optical Quantum (I presume) BD-Rs... Its at newegg. Although it goes in and out of stock quickly. Save some for me now! :)
Here's a link to it:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817607054&Tpk=N82E16817607054

Newegg also has a 25 pack for $19.99 going on right now (in stock). Although that is a special memorial weekend deal and will be gone in a few days!

[djmasturbeat]

to all the people buying LTH, beware. I burnt them for a while (many months, somewhere over a year maybe), went thru quite a few of them (probably a couple hundred). But then I got a few bad spindles of 20, and almost every single one, or every other one was giving errors galore in ImgBurn. the worst was not the ones that errored out a few minutes into the burn. the worst were the ones that did the whole damn write and couldn't finalize... or they didn't verify -- immediately!
I steer clear of them now.
verbatim with their Lifetime Warranty --they never even got back with me after i sent numerous messages thru the North American branch website. That made me lose a lot of faith in their name, too. Luckily I had bought those 2 packs locally, and was able to return 1 spindle of the 2 (since some of the burns were good, i decided to keep them and return 1 spindles worth and cut my losses).

I am now kinda leery of Verbatim, and have noticed a huge decline in quality of their DVD+/-Rs, too. lots of really thin discs, rough edges, uneven hubs, blotches in the dyes.... signs of junk media. And about all i get when i mailorder them (or that i can find locally) are made in China, India, UAE, you know, all the garbage plants.

I have been having better luck with Optical Quanta BD25 discs than I have had with the Verbatims BD25 (both LTH an HTL), and that is even if i don't include the 2 bad spindles. far fewer bad burns, and rated higher speeds. they do feel like really thin junk, tho, but at least they aren't pretending to be first class, but still outperforming the Verbatims. sad, but true.

That said, I have never used anything but Mitsubishi/Verbatim BD50s for the rare BD50 (custom subbed or made discs), but obviously the choices are fewer and further between.

if anyone is curious, I have found out that the only brands that are definitely always made in Japan (usually top-notch) are any Panasonic BDR 25/50 and only Sony's BDRE 50 (not any other Sony-Branded stuff).

A friend in Japan who can get all of this stuff really cheap recommends against TDK media b/c the coating is so thick it causes issues for a lot of writers (espec the BDRE50s have major issues), and sometimes they snap/break. he also recommended against Maxell, and the JVC/ Victor should only be bought if they are cheaper than the other big brands (they usually aren't). It'd be nice to get newest, highest speed, any brand of BD50s (R and RE both) for $2 each like my friend in Japan (or $1 or less for any major brand of BDR/RE 25).

[DVDIT]

^^^^
I don't know which model # of Verbatim BD-R's you are buying, you are the first one I have seen that experienced issues with them. I have bought at least 20 spindles of Verbatim BD-R at different times from Amazon, Newegg and B&h Photo and all are made in Taiwan NOT the countries you listed above.

[ripburnlearn]

Here's something I can't figure out with verbatim. They made those LTH discs because they could be manufactured cheaper. But consumers aren't seeing these cheaper prices. I've never seen them cheaper than Optical Quantum's discs (which use the more expensive manufacturing techniques).

Plus add to the fact that these discs aren't compatible with all devices and are often questioned with their longevity (I've read reviews on Newegg stating there readability declines drastically over time). Seems like their asking consumers to play Russian Roulette.

[DVDIT]

I say stay away from LTH discs no matter the manufacturer.

[jdobbs]

I say stay away from LTH discs no matter the manufacturer. I think using LTH is simply looking for trouble. What's the point with better true-BD discs selling for about $1 each?

[djmasturbeat]

i agree. I found out. and the prices are not cheaper than many brands have their HTL discs for.
The OQs are working great for me, and New Egg had them on sale again a few days ago (25 packs for 19.99). just don't have the $ to get them. last time i ordered is after getting tax return and i ordered 4 at the $25 price, but now i can't buy any. oh well, i still have enough to last for a good long while.

btw, I also see TY is making LTH BDRs, too ... and so far it is the only BDR type I have seen from TY, but that may be just b/c I don't live in Japan, or haven't looked enough.

[A.Fenderson]

I'm toying with the idea of purchasing a few Optical Quantum for personal trials, and I noticed that their 6x write, dual-layer BD50s are (relatively) cheap at $5 each (http://www.amazon.com/Optical-Quantum-Double-Layer-Silver/dp/B004WYTO8Y/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1307562139&sr=8-22): has anyone tried these? If they're reliable, they'd almost be worth it for those BDs that have tons of HD bonus features, etc, that make it less desirable to run them through BD-RB.

[JJB]

I'm toying with the idea of purchasing a few Optical Quantum for personal trials, and I noticed that their 6x write, dual-layer BD50s are (relatively) cheap at $5 each (http://www.amazon.com/Optical-Quantum-Double-Layer-Silver/dp/B004WYTO8Y/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1307562139&sr=8-22): has anyone tried these? If they're reliable, they'd almost be worth it for those BDs that have tons of HD bonus features, etc, that make it less desirable to run them through BD-RB.

You could be a Guinea Pig and go for it @ $5 a pop. Let us know how it feels. If I can buy a 1 year BR movie for $9-10 and most all that I have backed looks superb on DVD5/9 then it seems like a crap shoot for most folks regardless of the extra junk on a BR.

Just put the extras on another 20 cent DVD.:rolleyes:

[jdobbs]

I'm pretty skeptical when I see something for $5 that sells at $20-$30 everywhere else. I become even more skeptical when I read "NOT compatible with all LG 6x, LG 8x, Pioneer 4x, and Pioneer 8x Blu-ray burners". I have to ask myself "why would something that actually meets the BD standard not work with certain burners?"

But if you're willing to take the risk -- try them and report back.

You can get them a little cheaper here (http://www.mediamegamall.com/optical-quantum-bluray-disc-50gb-branded-10pk-cakebox-oqbdrdl06lt10-p-32041.html), but I know nothing about this company.

I also saw what they say are Verbatims here (http://cgi.ebay.com/10-Verbatim-blu-ray-disc-dual-layer-bluray-50GB-bd-4X-/400215068029?pt=BI_Blank_Media&hash=item5d2ead4d7d).

[A.Fenderson]

I'm pretty skeptical when I see something for $5 that sells at $20-$30 everywhere else. I become even more skeptical when I read "NOT compatible with all LG 6x, LG 8x, Pioneer 4x, and Pioneer 8x Blu-ray burners". I have to ask myself "why would something that actually meets the BD standard not work with certain burners?"

But if you're willing to take the risk -- try them and report back.

You can get them a little cheaper here (http://www.mediamegamall.com/optical-quantum-bluray-disc-50gb-branded-10pk-cakebox-oqbdrdl06lt10-p-32041.html), but I know nothing about this company.

I also saw what they say are Verbatims here (http://cgi.ebay.com/10-Verbatim-blu-ray-disc-dual-layer-bluray-50GB-bd-4X-/400215068029?pt=BI_Blank_Media&hash=item5d2ead4d7d).

Damn good question about it not working with certain burners--I didn't even see that until you pointed it out, guess I just assumed something that's flat-out incompatible with certain burners wouldn't get the BD logo.

The Verbatims you linked at around the same price are tempting, but I'm somewhat skeptical of these ebay repacks: not only am I not getting the retail packaging to assure me they're not fakes, but I worry about damage occuring while or as a result of the repacking process--anyone ever ordered any BD50 repacks like this off ebay?

[jdobbs]

Damn good question about it not working with certain burners--I didn't even see that until you pointed it out, guess I just assumed something that's flat-out incompatible with certain burners wouldn't get the BD logo.

The Verbatims you linked at around the same price are tempting, but I'm somewhat skeptical of these ebay repacks: not only am I not getting the retail packaging to assure me they're not fakes, but I worry about damage occuring while or as a result of the repacking process--anyone ever ordered any BD50 repacks like this off ebay? I haven't used e-bay for them...

I just assumed something that's flat-out incompatible with certain burners wouldn't get the BD logo. I guess it could be that the firmware on those drives just doesn't support/recognize the Disc ID.

[hello_hello]

I guess it could be that the firmware on those drives just doesn't support/recognize the Disc ID.

Has the version number of blank discs changed much (as it did with blank DVDs)?

I just stuck a CMCMAG-BA5-000 disc in the drive. Nero tells me it's version 4, ImgBurn tells me it's version 1. I don't know who to believe, but maybe it's a version thing when it comes to compatibility with older burners?
If they're LTH discs not all burners support them.

While I'm butting in, has anyone had any experience with discs using CMCMAG-BA5-000 dye? Any good? I've gone through a couple of spindles now and while I can't run quality tests, they verify at full speed and I've only made one coaster.

[jdobbs]

If they're LTH discs they should be avoided completely. But I couldn't find anything that indicated they were LTH.

[Ch3vr0n]

From what i've heard from my retailer, verbatim stopped production of LTH discs alltogether. Probably due to the small amount of compatible devices. Not confirmed though

[mobie29]

Stay away from LTH BD discs period. Even the Verbatim brand is unreliable.

I use Digistor 25g BD-R's for my projects. I have burned over 250 with zero bad burns and are compatible with all blu ray players as far as i know.

[stereo55]

I'm toying with the idea of purchasing a few Optical Quantum for personal trials, and I noticed that their 6x write, dual-layer BD50s are (relatively) cheap at $5 each (http://www.amazon.com/Optical-Quantum-Double-Layer-Silver/dp/B004WYTO8Y/ref=sr_1_22?ie=UTF8&qid=1307562139&sr=8-22): has anyone tried these? If they're reliable, they'd almost be worth it for those BDs that have tons of HD bonus features, etc, that make it less desirable to run them through BD-RB.

Ive been using the Optical Quantum 25's 4x for my last few Blu movie burns without a single hickup . They seem to burn just fine at 4.7x-8x on my LG WH12LS30 .

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817607024

I'd imagine the same "should" apply for the 50 disc .

[jdobbs]

My experience with DVD-9s tells me that you can't make the assumption that dual-layers will act the same as single layers. For a long time a huge percentage of DVD-9s were a high probability for coasters.

[apophis906]

Damn good question about it not working with certain burners--I didn't even see that until you pointed it out, guess I just assumed something that's flat-out incompatible with certain burners wouldn't get the BD logo.

The Verbatims you linked at around the same price are tempting, but I'm somewhat skeptical of these ebay repacks: not only am I not getting the retail packaging to assure me they're not fakes, but I worry about damage occuring while or as a result of the repacking process--anyone ever ordered any BD50 repacks like this off ebay?

I came on here to read what thoughts were on Optical Quantum and saw your post and thought I could help some. I have bought from the seller that jdobbs linked to on ebay a few times. Actually bought from another one as well and I like the way that one packs them better. First thing is that u-japan puts the disc on a spindle. So they are safe for shipping from Japan. Also the Verbatim have the name and speed in small print on the outer edge of the printable area. They also show up as their disc mid as VERBAT-IMd-000. Last set I ordered as a 20+1. They were spread across two small spindles and packed well. To be honest I was like you at first and only wanted sealed disc. When I finally tried a few repacked disc I found that they were repacked well and had no problems with them. I say order a small quantity to see how you like them.

[A.Fenderson]

Good info, thanks!

[apophis906]

Good info, thanks!

Your welcome. Its a tough thing to know if you can trust repacked disc. I know I was pretty worried myself till I took a chance on them.

[Ghitulescu]

Stay away from LTH BD discs period. Even the Verbatim brand is unreliable.

Are there other LTH manufacturers? :p

[A.Fenderson]

Are there other LTH manufacturers? :p

http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=26769

http://little-tokyo-from-jpn-to-your-door1.amazonwebstore.com/Victor-Bluray-BDR-Disk-LTH-Type/M/B002SSA3BS.htm?traffic_src=froogle&utm_medium=CSE&utm_source=froogle

[ripburnlearn]

Be quick guys $38 for a 50 pack of Optical Quantum: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817607054

Make sure to enter in that coupon code. This deal is for 24 hours only.

[rs008f]

I get too many data verification errors but the files do play fine. I'm using white inkjet Vinpower 4x BD-R, MID Philip R04. My Blu Ray burners are Lite-On iHBS112 and iHBS212. Can anyone recommend me a compatible Blu Ray media for these burners?

Edit: According to http://blog.consumerpla.net/2011/02/best-blu-ray-media-brands-review.html, I should have gotten Optical Quantum brand instead. Too bad they don't have it in White inkjet.

[A.Fenderson]

Interesting how Verbatim LTH, which receive so much flak here, are one of only three types in the highest-rated "archival quality" category. :)

[RobertM]

Re: Verbatim 97339 discs

Not exactly "inexpensive" (over $2.50 a disc), but they are hub inkjet printable and I've never had a coaster yet. B&H was selling these for over $150 a spindle a while ago, but have dropped the price to $134, so I ordered a pack. Shipping cost to Canada is very reasonable too.

FYI.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/741462-REG/Verbatim_97339_BD_R_Blu_Ray_25GB_6x.html

[worknstiff]

I just recently had a prob with Optical Quantum DVD+R DL --RICOHJPN D01 (067). I have used 3 or 4 of the 50PK spindles and was very pleased since they were only 38 bucks for a 50pk. I never had a problem untill last week and now I've had 5 bad disks. They sometimes fail right at the start of the burn (laser calibration), but the last ones were at 49 or 50 percent complete (at the layer change. BUMMER! I have decided that maybe Verbs are still the DL champ and after I finish this spindle, it's back to Verbatim. At least the price has been reasonable lately, 49 for 50 at Newegg, but still not as cheap as Optical Quantum, sigh!

[jdobbs]

I just recently had a prob with Optical Quantum DVD+R DL --RICOHJPN D01 (067). I have used 3 or 4 of the 50PK spindles and was very pleased since they were only 38 bucks for a 50pk. I never had a problem untill last week and now I've had 5 bad disks. They sometimes fail right at the start of the burn (laser calibration), but the last ones were at 49 or 50 percent complete (at the layer change. BUMMER! I have decided that maybe Verbs are still the DL champ and after I finish this spindle, it's back to Verbatim. At least the price has been reasonable lately, 49 for 50 at Newegg, but still not as cheap as Optical Quantum, sigh!Don't know if this applies -- but I saw something similar once. I turned my computer off and then back on, and the discs were fine. The drive was confused. I even found that the discs I thought were in error now worked.

[worknstiff]

I don't know if this helps, but these disks that failed are taking place on my new computer with an Asus BW-12B1LT/ 12x Blu-Ray Burner. The Optical Quantum DVD+R DL's are rated for 8x but ImgBurn only burns them at 4x speed. I tried putting the files to be burned on different drives and nothing makes it burn at 8x. When a disk fails I can put in another disk and it will then do a successfull burn of the same files and without rebooting. It seems like if it was a computer or drive error then it would keep burning coasters, perhaps I just got hold of a bad spindle. On the other hand my older computer with a LG H20L burner, has never had but a couple of bad burns in over 100 burns of the optical quantum disks, or over a 1000 Verbs. Could just be this asus drive is being picky, and as soon as I finish this last spindle I will feed it 50 verbs and see if it makes a difference.

[RobertM]

For DVD-DL duties I tried Maxell, Memorex, Imation, Sony, ProData, Ritek, TDK and Verbatim. Some of these brands wouldn't burn reliably, some would burn OK but would freeze at the layer break upon playback. I tried a new burner (LG), firmware updates, etc., etc. It was very frustrating.

The ONLY brand that gave consistent 100% performance were the Verbatims. They do tend to be more expensive, but I have had no coasters and no playback problems -- EVER, not even once -- in the couple of years since I started using them exclusively. For me, the extra cost offers very good value, and I won't consider anything but Verbatims for my DVD-DL duties. I'll pay a little more so that I don't have to worry about, and baby-sit, each and every burn.

I am now quite loyal to Verbatim, and I use them for BD-R. They are more expensive, but, so far, they have been 100% reliable.

[Ghitulescu]

For DVD-DL duties I tried Maxell, Memorex, Imation, Sony, ProData, Ritek, TDK and Verbatim. Some of these brands wouldn't burn reliably, some would burn OK but would freeze at the layer break upon playback. I tried a new burner (LG), firmware updates, etc., etc. It was very frustrating.

The ONLY brand that gave consistent 100% performance were the Verbatims. They do tend to be more expensive, but I have had no coasters and no playback problems -- EVER, not even once -- in the couple of years since I started using them exclusively. For me, the extra cost offers very good value, and I won't consider anything but Verbatims for my DVD-DL duties. I'll pay a little more so that I don't have to worry about, and baby-sit, each and every burn.

I am now quite loyal to Verbatim, and I use them for BD-R. They are more expensive, but, so far, they have been 100% reliable.

That was my cree too, however, the new batches of Verbatim DL come from India. I still have the old one, but have any of you tried them and compared to the old ones?