Inexpensive BD-R Media [Archive] - Page 6

Capsbackup

20th January 2011, 00:00

I have tried RiData 4x BD-R and Memorex 4x BD-R ( which has the same mfg ID as the RiData, just Blue in color), with no problems.

Found RiData for $35.00 for a 15 pack spindle, and Memorex for $40.00 for a 15 pack spindle. Now that I know Memorex is the same mfg., I probably won't pay more for the color.

It's funny, I will never buy anything but Verbatims for my DVD media, but was willing to try these for BD-R. Verbatim 10 pack spindle goes for $50.00. ( Fry's ). Next purchase I will try Verbatims, but I am uncertain if this will be necessary for BD media. I will be curious of others opinions.

A very good thread to start. images/smilies/goodpost-t.gif

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@NhocCuteGirls;
Your second post, and you didn't even try to use your own words! :rolleyes:
This one from me was the second from this thread.

I have tried RiData 4x BD-R and Memorex 4x BD-R ( which has the same mfg ID as the RiData, just Blue in color), with no problems.
Found RiData for $35.00 for a 15 pack spindle, and Memorex for $40.00 for a 15 pack spindle. Now that I know Memorex is the same mfg., I probably won't pay more for the color.
It's funny, I will never buy anything but Verbatims for my DVD media, but was willing to try these for BD-R. Verbatim 10 pack spindle goes for $50.00. ( Fry's ). Next purchase I will try Verbatims, but I am uncertain if this will be necessary for BD media. I will be curious of others opinions.
A very good thread to start. :goodpost:

jdobbs

20th January 2011, 04:10

@NhocCuteGirls;
Your second post, and you didn't even try to use your own words! :rolleyes:
This one from me was the second from this thread. It's gotta be a SPAMBOT, or a BOT of some kind (I don't see the SPAM only the weirdness). NhocCuteGirls has only posted only two times, and both of them used text copied from an earlier post.

@NhocCuteGirls

If you're a real person, respond quickly -- or you'll be banned in the very near future...

Darth_Emma

22nd January 2011, 18:08

The egg has all VERBATIM media for 20% off this weekend with coupon code: EMCYTZT271

I got 2 BD-R 10 packs for $15.99 each with free shipping today.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130047

They are $19.99 less 20% with the coupon code making them $15.99 each with free shipping.

JJB

22nd January 2011, 22:14

DVDIT

26th January 2011, 02:28

Be careful on ordering the LTH (Low to High) BD. Some burners reject them like bad milk.:sly:

The Verbatim 25GB 4X BD-R 10 Packs Spindle Box Disc Model 96769 are not LTH. That is awesome price for those discs.

Ghitulescu

26th January 2011, 08:41

DVDIT

26th January 2011, 13:35

According to several threads at the imgburn forum, the Verbatims are not really the top, at least not when burned with certain "less expensive" burners (check the results for them in the topic of the burner you have - the topics are ordered according to the burner, not according to the media).

Thanks, I will check it out. I have a Pioneer 205 and burn with 4x speed only using Imgburn. I own several blu-ray players and each backup plays back on all players without a hitch.

GaPony

28th January 2011, 16:15

FWIW...

In all honesty, I haven't had the first bit of trouble from ANY brand of BD-R media. No coasters, except for a couple user aborted burns, and no problems with playback on LG, Samsung, or Sony machines.

I always just look for the cheapest, unbranded, thermal printable, discs I can find and have never been disappointed.

jdobbs

28th January 2011, 16:20

I got worried a couple of days ago... I put in 5 different BD-Rs and got "check" error when I tried to burn. I thought I'd finally run into some bad discs -- but then it did the same thing on two other brands.

It turns out that my Sony BWU-S200 drive finally met its demise after several years of continual (daily) use. I went to Best Buy and picked up an LG BH10LS30 drive the next day, used MCSE to disable the BDMV read speed limit, and now I'm ripping nearly twice as fast as I was with my Sony. I guess there's always a silver lining, eh? It turns out I can even even use the discs that had "failed".

Amazing how prices have changed. The Sony was $600 when I bought it. Now faster drives with more features are around $100.

FWIW...

In all honesty, I haven't had the first bit of trouble from ANY brand of BD-R media. No coasters, except for a couple user aborted burns, and no problems with playback on LG, Samsung, or Sony machines.

I always just look for the cheapest, unbranded, thermal printable, discs I can find and have never been disappointed.
Same for me. I buy whatever disc is cheapest, burn it at maximum speed, and I think I can only remember 1-2 bad discs out of all the packs I've bought (and I've bought a lot of them).

laserfan

28th January 2011, 17:03

...the next day, used MSCE to disable the BDMV read speed limit, and now I'm ripping nearly twice as fast...
You meant MCSE (MediaCodeSpeedEdit) and thanks for reminding me about it--I'd been put-off in the past by the 'write strategy' aspect and have never tried its riplock removal feature. Will have to do so!
:thanks:

jdobbs

28th January 2011, 18:50

You meant MCSE (MediaCodeSpeedEdit) and thanks for reminding me about it--I'd been put-off in the past by the 'write strategy' aspect and have never tried its riplock removal feature. Will have to do so!
:thanks: Yep...

laserfan

28th January 2011, 19:15

Nice...about a 30% improvement in read speed on my LG drive. That is significant indeed--thanks again.

RB Newbie

29th January 2011, 01:52

Newegg has 25 packs of Optical Quantum 4X "Logo Top" on sale for $19.99 with free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817607025

They burn at 8x on my LG 10x drive.

techno1

4th February 2011, 03:15

Newegg has 25 packs of Optical Quantum 4X "Logo Top" on sale for $19.99 with free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817607025

They burn at 8x on my LG 10x drive.
I tried the Optical Quantum disks from 'the egg' on my LG drives and have several that failed using ImgBurn at 2x. Not a single bad RiDATA disk yet. My LG's must like RiDATA.

jdobbs

4th February 2011, 03:23

I tried the Optical Quantum disks from 'the egg' on my LG drives and have several that failed using ImgBurn at 2x. Not a single bad RiDATA disk yet. My LG's must like RiDATA. I went through 50 of the Optical Quantum White Inkjet Printable discs (OQ/BD-R/04/IPW) from Meritline -- and never had a single bad one. That was on my old Sony drive, though.

Wolfe999

4th February 2011, 12:21

I tried the Optical Quantum disks from 'the egg' on my LG drives and have several that failed using ImgBurn at 2x. Not a single bad RiDATA disk yet. My LG's must like RiDATA.

My drive is an LG GGW-H20L and so far have had no problem with Ritek (Traxdata) nor Optical Quantum from Newegg. Though curiously I've had many coasters at the beginning (when they were quite expensive I bought 10) with verbs. I stopped buying them. Had no problem either with TDK's.

GaPony

6th February 2011, 06:01

I went to Best Buy and picked up an LG BH10LS30 drive the next day, used MCSE to disable the BDMV read speed limit, and now I'm ripping nearly twice as fast as I was with my Sony.

Excellant tip, jdobbs! I installed modified firmware onto my WH10LS30 drive and tested it on 16 Blocks, which was handy at the time. The rip time went from 23 minutes to 14 minutes. This is a pretty small Blu-Ray (14GB), but the speedup is fantastic. I did the same thing with my old LG GGW-H20L and it went from 40 minutes to 24 minutes.

I had forgotten all about MCSE...

Thanks again!

DVDIT

1st April 2011, 22:28

Excellant tip, jdobbs! I installed modified firmware onto my WH10LS30 drive and tested it on 16 Blocks, which was handy at the time. The rip time went from 23 minutes to 14 minutes. This is a pretty small Blu-Ray (14GB), but the speedup is fantastic. I did the same thing with my old LG GGW-H20L and it went from 40 minutes to 24 minutes.

I had forgotten all about MCSE...

Thanks again!

Where can I download a modified firmware for LITEON iHOS104 for use with MCSE to speed up rip time?

jdobbs

1st April 2011, 22:56

Where can I download a modified firmware for LITEON iHOS104 for use with MCSE to speed up rip time?Are you sure you need modified firmware. I just downloaded the latest for my drive and then ran MCSE against it. It does the patch. I think MCSE tells you which firmware versions it supports.

DVDIT

1st April 2011, 23:16

Are you sure you need modified firmware. I just downloaded the latest for my drive and then ran MCSE against it. It does the patch. I think MCSE tells you which firmware versions it supports.

I thought I needed a modified one. But still I was unable to find the latest firmware for my Lite-on even on the manufacturer website. Google didn't help either.

jdobbs

1st April 2011, 23:24

I thought I needed a modified one. But still I was unable to find the latest firmware for my Lite-on even on the manufacturer website. Google didn't help either.Did you try this:

http://us.liteonit.com/us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=274&Itemid=191

I haven't tried to download it, but this is where its supposed to be.

You may also want to do a search for MediaCodeSpeedEdit along with that drive to see is it and the firmware is supported.

DVDIT

1st April 2011, 23:31

Did you try this:

http://us.liteonit.com/us/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=274&Itemid=191

I haven't tried to download it, but this is where its supposed to be.

I did. It shows no file to download. When I click on download anyway it keeps denying me access. It keeps saying permission denied. Funny thing is there is instruction on how to upgrade the firmware but the firmware itself is MIA.

djmasturbeat

12th April 2011, 00:12

From my experience, WinData definitely seems to be crappy,

since i live by a MicroCenter I have tried WinData before too -- it is their own brand of media. It IS terrible, so i have never tried the BDRs. their DVDs are often FAKE MCC-003 (or other fake coded MCC/Verbatims). i learned from having many bad burns, and worse, ones that burned okay, but had disk rot sometimes only a week or so later.
I especially have to warn against the DVD9s.
but, yeah, i learned my lesson with their crap media many years ago:P
I don't care if their BD25s are 25 cents each, I don't want to burn something off like a custom subbed disc, and then have it evaporate off of the disc.

techno1

14th April 2011, 19:15

I went through 50 of the Optical Quantum White Inkjet Printable discs (OQ/BD-R/04/IPW) from Meritline -- and never had a single bad one. That was on my old Sony drive, though.

Definitely different discs. The ones that failed were from New Egg, are matte nickel in color with the Optical Quantum logo. Disc ID:PHILIP-R04-000

DMagic1

14th April 2011, 21:37

Those Optical Quantum disc can be hit or miss. I had two 10 pack spindles that were perfect with my LG then I got two more spindles and half error near the end of the burn.
I left them alone for awhile and got a recent spindle and they are burning fine again. They vary so much in quality I'm afraid to get more than a 10 pack.

since i live by a MicroCenter I have tried WinData before too -- it is their own brand of media. It IS terrible, so i have never tried the BDRs. their DVDs are often FAKE MCC-003 (or other fake coded MCC/Verbatims). i learned from having many bad burns, and worse, ones that burned okay, but had disk rot sometimes only a week or so later.
I especially have to warn against the DVD9s.
but, yeah, i learned my lesson with their crap media many years ago:P
I don't care if their BD25s are 25 cents each, I don't want to burn something off like a custom subbed disc, and then have it evaporate off of the disc.

Actually the Windata BDR are pretty much the same in quality as the Optical Quantum. Same media code also.

DVDIT

14th April 2011, 21:53

Those Optical Quantum disc can be hit or miss. I had two 10 pack spindles that were perfect with my LG then I got two more spindles and half error near the end of the burn.
I left them alone for awhile and got a recent spindle and they are burning fine again. They vary so much in quality I'm afraid to get more than a 10 pack.

Actually the Windata BDR are pretty much the same in quality as the Optical Quantum. Same media code also.

Even though they are cheap and seem to have excellent user review, I am afraid to use them not so much whether burn will be successful or not but don't have confidence about their longevity. I have been let down by Ridata DVDs that burned fine but they becomes unreadable after a year. That was about seven years ago and I since changed to Verbatim DVD+R and never experience any issues. Based om that experience I chose Verbatim 96769 for my BD backup and no coaster so far, all burned OK and all tested with CD-Speed for disc quality and surface scan and come out with no errors. I have used the Verbatim 96769 for about 16 months now. At $20 per 10 pack why take a chance on cheap ones. While BD-R archival quality is still unknown, I rather take a chance on a brand that has served me well and are known for their DVD quality.

hotrodbob1976

16th April 2011, 03:49

I have used both Memorex and Verbatim, both from Newegg and have burned 30+ with no issues. I also installed the latest firmware for my Liteon drive and now the same disks burn at 9-10x as opposed to 4x using ImgBurn.

djmasturbeat

16th April 2011, 08:03

unfortunately, so far I have had more coasterson average with Verbatims, than i have had with Optical Quaanta... and this doesn't even take into account the LTH discs (for awhile i used them since they were cheaper, but then i got some really terrible spindles all at same time).
I never use anything but Verbies for DVD+/-R and that goes double for, well, the doubles, DVD9s. the BDs are not reliable like that tho. too bad.

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some deals:

http://www.runtechmedia.com/Product.asp?sku=OQBDR04LT10&a=11&CategoryID=&Format=BD-R

Optical Quantum 4X 25GB BD-R Blu-ray Blank Disc Logo Top
10pk @ $1.10 each (MPN: OQBDR04LT10)
Reg: $18.50 Sale: $10.95
25pk @ $0.96 each (MPN: OQBDR04LT)
Reg: $40 Sale: $23.99
100pk @ $0.90 each (MPN: OQBDR04LT)
Reg: $110 Sale: $90
300pk @ $0.85 each (MPN: OQBDR04LT)

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also
Newegg has a lot of things with coupon codes, some include codes that get 10% OFF (for me at least, that is for all items in my cart)
10% off w/ promo code EMCKFJE25, ends 4/16

make sure you use the correct code, some have same 10% off, but use different code

DVDIT

16th April 2011, 12:26

unfortunately, so far I have had more coasterson average with Verbatims, than i have had with Optical Quaanta... and this doesn't even take into account the LTH discs (for awhile i used them since they were cheaper, but then i got some really terrible spindles all at same time).
I never use anything but Verbies for DVD+/-R and that goes double for, well, the doubles, DVD9s. the BDs are not reliable like that tho. too bad.

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some deals:

http://www.runtechmedia.com/Product.asp?sku=OQBDR04LT10&a=11&CategoryID=&Format=BD-R

Optical Quantum 4X 25GB BD-R Blu-ray Blank Disc Logo Top
10pk @ $1.10 each (MPN: OQBDR04LT10)
Reg: $18.50 Sale: $10.95
25pk @ $0.96 each (MPN: OQBDR04LT)
Reg: $40 Sale: $23.99
100pk @ $0.90 each (MPN: OQBDR04LT)
Reg: $110 Sale: $90
300pk @ $0.85 each (MPN: OQBDR04LT)

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also
Newegg has a lot of things with coupon codes, some include codes that get 10% OFF (for me at least, that is for all items in my cart)

make sure you use the correct code, some have same 10% off, but use different code

Maybe the drive disc compatibility issues ? I use a Pioneer BDR-205 with the verbatim BD-R. I burn only at 4x even though I could burn the discs @ 10x. I have gone through 5 packs so far with a perfect result.

DVDIT

16th April 2011, 12:32

Can someone please post the media code for Optical Quantum and Optimum brand discs. I recently bought a TDK branded disc form Japan and the media code is CMCCMGBA3-000 (CMC Magnetics). I thought a disc form Japan would have a TDK MID. Anyways, I think I remember reading somewhere the Optical Quantum and Optimum brand discs also have the same media code as the TDK I got.

jdobbs

16th April 2011, 21:59

DVDIT

16th April 2011, 23:23

Here are the three types I have on-hand:

Optical Quantum: PHILIP-R4-000
MERAX: OTCBDR-001-000
RITEK: RITEK-BR2-000

Just a note: Sometimes manufacturers will "borrow" the media code from other discs that have the same characteristics.

Thanks, jdobbs. In case you wanted to know...

Optical Quantum: PHILIP-R4-000 is made by Moser Baer India Ltd
MERAX: OTCBDR-001-000 is made by Optodisc Technology Corporation
RITEK: RITEK-BR2-000 is made by RITEK CORPORATION.

thegame

18th April 2011, 17:46

Here are the three types I have on-hand:

Optical Quantum: PHILIP-R4-000
MERAX: OTCBDR-001-000
RITEK: RITEK-BR2-000

Just a note: Sometimes manufacturers will "borrow" the media code from other discs that have the same characteristics.

Thanks for this info, are there any specific brands better for different make drives, for example, I have a Pioneer BDR-203(latest firmware) is there any brand that is better for that drive over others? I have only been using Verbatim blanks but these are more pricey than these you listed, I wouldn't mind trying a different brand, just a little nervous to LOL.

Thanks

jdobbs

18th April 2011, 18:50

Thanks for this info, are there any specific brands better for different make drives, for example, I have a Pioneer BDR-203(latest firmware) is there any brand that is better for that drive over others? I have only been using Verbatim blanks but these are more pricey than these you listed, I wouldn't mind trying a different brand, just a little nervous to LOL.

ThanksYou know, honestly I've gone through a lot of brands -- and I have yet to have found one that caused any issues. The first time I ran into any issues at all (after two years of no-coaster burns to pretty much every low-price disc there was) was when my old Sony drive started failing on Ritek discs -- only to start doing the same on others shortly thereafter. I replaced the drive and suddenly all my discs were good again.

My personal belief is that most of what people think are disc issues are actually drive issues.

DVDIT

18th April 2011, 19:05

jdobbs,

Have you tired to playback or did error check on some of the discs you burned, say 1 1/2 - 2 years ago? If so, any problem with playback on those cheap discs?

Capsbackup

18th April 2011, 23:29

You know, honestly I've gone through a lot of brands -- and I have yet to have found one that caused any issues. The first time I ran into any issues at all (after two years of no-coaster burns to pretty much every low-price disc there was) was when my old Sony drive started failing on Ritek discs -- only to start doing the same on others shortly thereafter. I replaced the drive and suddenly all my discs were good again.

My personal belief is that most of what people think are disc issues are actually drive issues.

I might normally agree with you on this, but unfortunately ( or fortunate for me! :p ), the Optimum 4x, Disc ID: CMCMAG-BA3-00, BD-R I tried a while back were terrible. The disc would start and within 30 seconds through out an error. I would stop and retry this same disc, since it did not say it was written to, but still would not work. I sent them back to Optimum Mfg., and two months later they sent me some more, which one worked ( I guess since it burned an verified with IMGBurn :rolleyes: ), and one more did the same thing.
But since that time I have used Ritek BR2-00, either from Memorex or Ridata spindles, and have not had a single bad burn, and all verify successfully. :)
So my still going strong Matshita 2x burner is still working great, and no more Optimum media for me. :p
Maybe my burner does not agree with this media, if that is a possibility, but I learned not to buy off price alone and don't mess with what works! :cool:

jdobbs

18th April 2011, 23:53

jdobbs,

Have you tired to playback or did error check on some of the discs you burned, say 1 1/2 - 2 years ago? If so, any problem with playback on those cheap discs?None so far.

thegame

19th April 2011, 00:17

jdobbs,

Have you tired to playback or did error check on some of the discs you burned, say 1 1/2 - 2 years ago? If so, any problem with playback on those cheap discs?

Now that is a good question, definitely want these Discs to hold up as long as they can, don't want no 6-12 month lifespan LOL, I have seen this on cheap DVDr's.

DVDIT

19th April 2011, 00:35

None so far.

Good to know. If the burned data integrity holds that long, it probably saferrrrrrrrrrrrr to assume they will hold much longer.

rysktkr

25th April 2011, 19:25

I have had several RITEK BR2 disk go bad on me:

Memorex (Blue disk) RITEK BR2 burned 6/09. Have had 7 disks fail out of 15.

RiData (silver disk) RITEK BR2 burned 6/09 had 1 disk fail out of 4 checked.

RiData (printable disk) RITEK BR2. The oldest I have of these are from 4/10. I have not yet seen any failures. Scanned 4 disk using Nero Disk Speed all 4 clean.

As a result of these failures I will be switching to Verbatim.

DVDIT

25th April 2011, 20:09

I checked all my Verbatim BD R, using Nero and Opti Drive control and 3 different BR drives. Some were burned as far back as 12/09. All checked out green (100% readable) with Nero ScanDisc and all have very low LDC and BIS values when tested with both Nero and OPD. No need for me to look at another media. Data integrity is more important than saving a few $$.

Capsbackup

26th April 2011, 16:50

It was quite some time ago when I burned these discs, once thought successfull Memorex BD-R 25GB (Ritek BR2-00), back in the early development of BD-RB. So some are close to 1 1/2 years old. Well an interesting development to find that the now three tested discs will not play in my PC's Blu-ray player nor my Sony BX-1 and S360! :( :mad:
The player reports Invalid Disc.
So I guess I will have to start checking my previous backups to this media, which is quite extensive, to see how many more are now no longer able to play.
All these discs were once tested on these Sony players to insure they worked originally when made. All verified successfully with IMGBurn! All were kept in Blu-ray cases, standing vertically, stored in a closet with no sunlight and cool conditions... something I was trying to be diligent with so as to avoid this problem.
Needless to say, very disappointing! :devil:
I have all the original Blu-rays, so recreating is only a time consuming process at worst. However, I will have to re-think this since I was not prepared to see such short life for this media. Maybe other brands will be similar, short life!
Since BD-R media is not that old anyway, it will be interesting to hear if anyone else is experiencing this on any / all other brands of media.. time will only tell. :eek:

DVDIT

26th April 2011, 17:03

Why is it that disc manufacturers don't make identical BD-R disc just like those used on commercial blu-ray discs ? I see that the dye used are of a different kind.

Ghitulescu

26th April 2011, 17:03

So the 50years claim is definitively destroyed.

DVDIT

26th April 2011, 17:24

So the 50years claim is definitively destroyed.

I would not jump to that conclusion. So far the reportedly bad disc are made by RITEK. There is a detailed discussion about the failure of this particular media at Club MyCE.

Ghitulescu

26th April 2011, 19:04

While I agree grosso modo with you, I have to notice that the medium/media stability dropped much faster than [at its time] the DVDR and [again at its time] CDR. By comparison, the CDR, even if burned at 54x looks like a master of this art. I haven't yet burned BD-Rs (only a few), only BD-REs and I think I'll hardly burn BDRs in the future or at least as long the BD-REs are similarly priced.

DVDIT

26th April 2011, 19:21

I have experienced the same issue in the DVD days with Ritek media, where the disc burned were checked and no error found at the time of burn, only to become unreadable a year later. I then changed to Verbatim and never had any disc that failed on me yet (7 years and counting). I am now using Verbatim BD-R as well. I only make backup of those discs we watch multiple times so I don't do that many backups. The wise thing to do is to keep the original disc in a very safe place and away from the kids. That way burning another copy if needed, though a hassle, could easily be done.

thegame

26th April 2011, 20:18

I sure am glad I check this thread often, after what I have been reading, I'm sure I am just going to stay with Verbatim blanks, I actually have to place an order now LOL and decided to check this thread first, I use Verbatim dual layer DVD blanks as well, never a bad burn and hold up very well, but for DVD5's, I only use Tayo Yuden, have not had any bad burns and they hold up forever it seems.

Capsbackup

29th April 2011, 00:55

After checking several of my Ritek BR2-00 discs, I have found 12 bad so far, and all are the Memorex original royal blue color face ( same color as a Blu-ray case ). None of the silver Ridata cake box nor the greyish/blue color Memorex discs have been bad... yet! :( Some of these silver face ones are as old too, so I am not sure what to make of this. The greyish/blue ones were in the same original looking cake package as the royal blue ones, but must have been the next generation.
And I use to think the color of the royal blue was pretty neat... to distinguish them as Blu-ray media. :rolleyes: