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XadoX
19th February 2010, 13:34
...RD uses its own display driver... so the NV tools cannot access the nvidia card...
100% right!

tormento
19th February 2010, 15:08
I beg your pardon for being boring in a yet disputed issue, however in a Tesla serverI use at work we control everything by remote and no program complains... It's a matter of correct identification.

Boardlord
19th February 2010, 22:32
I don't know about that, since I don't code. Maybe there is a way to access the GPU while the computer is being controlled remotely :)

jpsdr
20th February 2010, 13:35
I don't realy remember, but, in the old versions, there wasn't a browsing cursor for video like in DGIndex ?
Will it be back ?

Guest
20th February 2010, 15:33
I don't realy remember, but, in the old versions, there wasn't a browsing cursor for video like in DGIndex ?
Will it be back ? The selection bar now *is* the trackbar. Try clicking in it and dragging and see what happens.

SomeJoe
21st February 2010, 00:19
neuron2,

Your previous versions of DGNV tools I was able to retrieve version information from the DGNVDecode.dll in the Windows standard MajorVersion/MinorVersion/Build/Private format. The previous versions of 2.0.0 beta have been 2.0.0.0 when retrieved like that.

In 2006, the version numbers retrieved using that method come out as 0.0.0.0. The string "2006" is present in the file version string, however.

Can you insert the 2006 version number into the standard Windows format? e.g. 2.0.2006.0 (or 2.0.2007.0 in your next release)? My front end uses these version identifiers to ensure that the correct version of DGNVDecode.dll is installed and available.

rack04
21st February 2010, 03:02
Using DGDecNV 2006 on Windows XP SP3 with Nvidia 196.21 I get a thick vertical grey bar on the right side of this (http://www.multiupload.com/553IW7A8G7) Apple Trailer. I demuxed the h264 stream from mov using mp4box. I manually set the framerate in the dgi file to 24000 / 1001 since the raw h264 stream doesn't specify a framerate. If I feed the mov directly to x264 and use ffms2 to decode the output doesn't have the thick vertical grey bar.

http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/rack04/101900134avs_snapshot_0000_20100220.jpg

DGI File:
DGAVCIndexFileNV5
C:\Program Files\DGIndexNV\

F:\Work\101900134.h264 10111615

STREAM 0
YUVRGB 1
LUMFILT 0 0
CLIP 0 0 0 12
RANGE 0 0 10111614 0
AUDIO

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SIZ 864 x 368
FPS 25000 / 1000
CODED 736
PLAYBACK 736
0.00% FILM



Avisyth Script:
LoadPlugin("C:\Program Files\DGIndexNV\DGMultiDecodeNV.dll")
DGMultiSource("F:\Work\101900134.dgi")

jpsdr
21st February 2010, 13:57
I've a little problem with DGMultisource...
I've put the DLL in the plugins directory of avisynth, so, my avs script don't have the "LoadPlugin".
Around 1 of 2 times i open the avs script, VDub brutaly stop/crash with a message "[100] canot render file", and VDub has been kiled during the process.
As cuda server is not runing, should i also put the "license.txt" in the plugins directory of avisynth ?

Edit : More precision.
It's appening when i close/open script.
Messages are from DGMultisource, i've seen the following messages :
DGMultisource : Failed to create video decoder (100)
DGMultisource : cuCtxCreate failed

Edit2 : Don't seem to occur with DGSource.

hajj_3
22nd February 2010, 11:46
How is nvidia's de-interlacing in recent nvidia drivers? For 1080i UK HD mpeg2 would the nvidia be better than leakkerneldeint in terms of quality and speed? Should single rate deinterlacing be used or bobbing? I'd want to resize 720x576i or 1920x1080i to 720x400 or 1280x720, is the nvidia resizer better than say lanzos sharp4?

If i used say nvidia's deinterlacer and resizer would i select no deinterlacer in megui, i can't see an option to select no resizer in megui? I presume this is a fault of megui?

osgZach
22nd February 2010, 15:59
MeGUI generates its own Avisynth script to use for encoding, so you can always edit it out at that point.

There should be an option there as well, to not use the resizer. If you are seeing anything with a proceeding "#" in the final script, that means it wasn't used.

Open the AVS Script Creator, under the Tools menu. In the top half, just below the "input" stuff, there is a selectable Avisynth Profile, hit Config and click the "Extra Setup" tab. You can uncheck anything you don't want to automatically be configured, and that should take care of it, far as I know.

Revgen
23rd February 2010, 07:39
IMO, the Nvidia deinterlacer is better than leakkerneldeint.

Nvidia uses bilinear resizing. Which IMO is better for upsizing than downsizing. If you're downsizing, I'd recommend Lanczos or Spline36Resize.

Varies
23rd February 2010, 14:14
IMO, the Nvidia deinterlacer is better than leakkerneldeint.
i lol'd very hard :D maybe it's better than most of deinterlacers, but it got very different (in bad way) result...i don't use it (in quality reasons).
Nvidia uses bilinear resizing. Which IMO is better for upsizing than downsizing. If you're downsizing, I'd recommend Lanczos or Spline36Resize.
read avisynth manual. I think bilinear resize is bad for both resizing. :D

Keiyakusha
24th February 2010, 00:02
Hi. Does this software works well with vp4? Does mpeg4-asp and wmv support planned?
EDIT: also does speed of the memory has some impact on performance?

Guest
24th February 2010, 01:05
Hi. Does this software works well with vp4? It should but I don't have one for testing.

Does mpeg4-asp and wmv support planned? It's on the to-do list but not formally planned.

EDIT: also does speed of the memory has some impact on performance? I think the bus bandwidth and VP clock rate are the significant factors but I haven't studied this much.

jpsdr
24th February 2010, 10:05
@neuron2
Do you have any idea/clue about the problem i've posted in post #1258 ?

Guest
24th February 2010, 15:19
Not a clue. And you've not given me any means (stream and script) to try to duplicate it. Finally, there are no system details (OS, video card, etc.).

jpsdr
24th February 2010, 17:58
Scripts :
This one :

audio=WAVSource("FSS.wav")
video=DGMultiSource("00000.dgi",i420=false,use_D3D=false,deinterlace=0,fieldop=0)
a=AudioDub(video,audio).trim(423,91779)
b=AudioDub(video,audio).trim(91780,94823).Greyscale
a+b

or this one :

DGMultiSource("00003.dgi",i420=false,use_D3D=false,deinterlace=0,fieldop=0)
trim(31,0)

or this one :

DGMultiSource("00005.dgi",i420=false,use_D3D=false,deinterlace=0,fieldop=0)
trim(48,0)

or this one :

video=DGMultiSource("00006.dgi",i420=false,use_D3D=false,deinterlace=0,fieldop=0)
a=trim(video,54,32079)
b=trim(video,32080,0).Greyscale
a+b

or this one :

video1=DGMultiSource("00003.dgi",i420=false,deinterlace=0,use_D3D=false,fieldop=0)
video2=DGMultiSource("00005.dgi",i420=false,deinterlace=0,use_D3D=false,fieldop=0)
video3=DGMultiSource("00006.dgi",i420=false,deinterlace=0,use_D3D=false,fieldop=0)
a=trim(video1,31,0)
b=trim(video2,48,0)
c=trim(video3,54,32079)
d=trim(video3,32080,0).Greyscale
a+b+c+d

... all of my scripts in fact.

Stream : What would you like exactly ?

OS : Windows XP SP3.
Graphic Card : Nvidia GForce 9600 GT
Driver : 196.21
Something else ?

Guest
24th February 2010, 18:26
I need a stream and script that I can use to try to duplicate the problem. Why do I have to tell you twice?

jpsdr
25th February 2010, 09:34
All of my files are around 20Gb files ripped from Blu-Ray... I have no way to give you any of them !!
I you want a part/cut of one of them with DGSplit, wich size, how much do you want ?

Audionut
25th February 2010, 09:48
which size, how much do you want ?

1. Cut a sample.
2. Try it and see if it errors.
3. If so, upload. Else,
4. Cut a larger sample and goto 2.

jpsdr
25th February 2010, 22:50
Can't reproduce with 100Mo cutted sample. Bigger take too long to upload for now.
I'll see when problem occurs again.

Clumpco
28th February 2010, 10:32
Hi Neuron2,

I have found what I suspect to be a bug in the stream type detect in DGIndexNV. When I give it a TS with teletext subs it appears to think that it is an audio track (with a message that the PAT/PMT is the wrong type). Here is an example:
http://www.clumpton.com/uknwebimg/BadAudioDetect.gif

A sample TS is HERE (http://www.clumpton.com/uknwebimg/BadAudioDetect.rar)

TIA

kool
1st March 2010, 13:29
If I deinterlace the source with dgindexnv and source needs 3:2 puldown how should I change to 23,976? deinterlace option from dgindexnv and add the TDecimate() or any other way...?

Guest
1st March 2010, 14:58
If I deinterlace the source with dgindexnv and source needs 3:2 puldown how should I change to 23,976? deinterlace option from dgindexnv and add the TDecimate() or any other way...? If the source needs IVTC, then do not deinterlace. Use an external IVTC, such as Telecide/Decimate or TFM/TDecimate.

lych_necross
2nd March 2010, 07:18
You can also use Force Film if the % Film is above 95.

turbojet
2nd March 2010, 19:47
Now that someone is working actively on avisynth64 is there any chance of x64 dll's?

MuLTiTaSK
2nd March 2010, 20:31
@turbojet

you beat me to it;)

Great Dragon
3rd March 2010, 12:46
Hi, neuron2.
I'm confused with colorimetry in DGIndex.

Source is BT.709. DGindex info tells this along as MediaInfo.

DGIndex
http://thumbnails24.imagebam.com/7041/fed28170403153.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/fed28170403153)
DGSource()/AVCSoure() via VirtualDubMod
http://thumbnails24.imagebam.com/7041/832dde70403154.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/832dde70403154)
DGSource() + ColorMatrix(mode="Rec.709->Rec.601") via VirtualDubMod
http://thumbnails19.imagebam.com/7041/918be270403155.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/918be270403155)

Now what color is proper? And why there is a difference in colors between DGIndex and DGSource ?

Guest
3rd March 2010, 15:10
Now what color is proper? Please take that to the Avisynth Usage forum as it is more a ColorMatrix issue than a DGNV tools one.

And why there is a difference in colors between DGIndex and DGSource ? DGIndex upsamples to RGB for display.

Great Dragon
3rd March 2010, 16:43
DGIndex upsamples to RGB for display.
It's strange but encoded with x264 video looks the same as DGIndex and not like DGSource images taken in VirtualDubMod. And source itself played with MPC-HC with EVR output looks identical to DGIndex image.
So i'm agree that this is some kind of Avisynth issue.

MaxPlanck
4th March 2010, 04:58
Hi, I just purchased DGIndexNV, but I'm receiving the error "GPU decoder: Failed to create video decoder" when trying to open any m2ts file. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

rack04
4th March 2010, 04:58
Hi, I just purchased DGIndexNV, but I'm receiving the error "GPU decoder: Failed to create video decoder" when trying to open any m2ts file. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

What video card do you have and which drivers do you have installed?

MaxPlanck
4th March 2010, 05:01
What video card do you have and which drivers do you have installed?

I have an Nvidia Geforce 9800 GX2 card and using the 196.75 nvidia drivers.

MaxPlanck
4th March 2010, 05:18
Hi, I just purchased DGIndexNV, but I'm receiving the error "GPU decoder: Failed to create video decoder" when trying to open any m2ts file. Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Weird...Everything is working now. For some reason I can't use DGIndexNV through remote desktop. Oh well.

rack04
4th March 2010, 05:20
Weird...Everything is working now. For some reason I can't use DGIndexNV through remote desktop. Oh well.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1375405#post1375405

MaxPlanck
4th March 2010, 05:56
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1375405#post1375405

Seems I spoke to soon. Megui loads the AVS Sscript creator using the DGI file, but I can't use autocrop or analyze the source.

Stephen R. Savage
4th March 2010, 06:16
It's strange but encoded with x264 video looks the same as DGIndex and not like DGSource images taken in VirtualDubMod. And source itself played with MPC-HC with EVR output looks identical to DGIndex image.
So i'm agree that this is some kind of Avisynth issue.

The issue is in VirtualDub. VirtualDub only converts using the BT.601 coefficients. MPC-HC/EVR has a crude adaptive algorithm that chooses the coefficients based on the input resolution (actually, this may be a video driver feature, not one of EVR). The only way to work around this whole coefficient mess is to either know the behavior of all software/hardware used, or to manually specify the conversion to RGB.

Great Dragon
4th March 2010, 09:27
Weird...Everything is working now. For some reason I can't use DGIndexNV through remote desktop. Oh well.
It's because Win Remote Desktop loads a compatible mode driver without OpenCL, CUDA, PhysX capabilities.
Try to use Remotely Anywhere or others remote desktop software.

Stephen R. Savage
Thanks for an answer.

MaxPlanck
4th March 2010, 17:50
The issue is in VirtualDub. VirtualDub only converts using the BT.601 coefficients. MPC-HC/EVR has a crude adaptive algorithm that chooses the coefficients based on the input resolution (actually, this may be a video driver feature, not one of EVR). The only way to work around this whole coefficient mess is to either know the behavior of all software/hardware used, or to manually specify the conversion to RGB.

Is this response directed at me? The whole reason I purchased DgIndexNV, was so that I could feed the .DGI into MeGUI. This partially works, in the sense that I can see the video opened by the AVS Script creator, but I cannot autocrop or analyze the source. Is this normal behavior? I'm looking for a solution that will play nice with MeGui and it's going to make me sad if I run into a huge issue just because my source is VC-1.

Guest
4th March 2010, 20:25
Is this response directed at me? The whole reason I purchased DgIndexNV, was so that I could feed the .DGI into MeGUI. This partially works, in the sense that I can see the video opened by the AVS Script creator, but I cannot autocrop or analyze the source. Is this normal behavior? I'm looking for a solution that will play nice with MeGui and it's going to make me sad if I run into a huge issue just because my source is VC-1. Go to the MEGUI thread then. I cannot be responsible for every third-party app that uses my tool.

MaxPlanck
4th March 2010, 22:17
Go to the MEGUI thread then. I cannot be responsible for every third-party app that uses my tool.

Without claiming responsibility, maybe you can still offer some insight. Was I wrong to believe this tool could be used in a way similar to DGIndex? I have never had any difficulty encoding any source with meGUI, until encountering VC-1 - which is why I thought DGIndexNV was the answer to my prayers. I don't have the level of expertise that many doom9 members have. In fact, if it wasn't for a pop up in meGUI stating that only your tool could handle VC1, I wouldn't have bought a license. So I bought a license in good faith. I thought there was a good chance that you might have the answer to a problem related to knowledge you specialize in.

rack04
4th March 2010, 22:22
Without claiming responsibility, maybe you can still offer some insight. Was I wrong to believe this tool could be used in a way similar to DGIndex? I have never had any difficulty encoding any source with meGUI, until encountering VC-1 - which is why I thought DGIndexNV was the answer to my prayers. I don't have the level of expertise that many doom9 members have. In fact, if it wasn't for a pop up in meGUI stating that only your tool could handle VC1, I wouldn't have bought a license. So I bought a license in good faith. I thought there was a good chance that you might have the answer to a problem related to knowledge you specialize in.

MeGUI opens multiple instances of the script when anazlying and performing autocrop. Try closing the preview before performing these functions. Are you using DGMultiSource()?

Guest
4th March 2010, 22:26
Without claiming responsibility, maybe you can still offer some insight. Was I wrong to believe this tool could be used in a way similar to DGIndex? I have never had any difficulty encoding any source with meGUI, until encountering VC-1 - which is why I thought DGIndexNV was the answer to my prayers. I don't have the level of expertise that many doom9 members have. In fact, if it wasn't for a pop up in meGUI stating that only your tool could handle VC1, I wouldn't have bought a license. So I bought a license in good faith. I thought there was a good chance that you might have the answer to a problem related to knowledge you specialize in. I use MEGUI quite successfully with DGDecNV (including VC-1), but I do not use nor have I tested MEGUI's exotic functions like analyzing, autocropping, or script creation. I make my script manually and load it into MEGUI. If you want help with that stuff, you'll have to go to the MEGUI people (currently Zathor) to get support. This is the thread for you:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=151159

MaxPlanck
4th March 2010, 22:35
I use MEGUI quite successfully with DGDecNV (including VC-1), but I do not use nor have I tested the exotic functions like analyzing, autocropping, or script creation. I make my script manually and load it into MEGUI. If you want help with that stuff, you'll have to go to the MEGUI people (currently Zathor) to get support.

I figured that since the "Failed to create video decoder (100) message" occurs when I hit the analyze button, which has never failed in any other instance, that it might be a common problem as analyze and autocrop are fairly popular features. But, I'll post in the meGUI forums and see if anyone knows.

Guest
4th March 2010, 23:03
Why didn't you use the thread I pointed you to?

I pointed you to that thread because only the Zathor patched build is known to work with DGDecNV.

MuLTiTaSK
6th March 2010, 06:54
@neuron2

can you please release a 64bit build of DGDecNV for us DGCode abusers living on the cutting edge can test it with -> JoshyD AviSynth 64bit Build's (bit.ly/dtXHXH) :thanks:

Guest
7th March 2010, 21:02
Using DGDecNV 2006 on Windows XP SP3 with Nvidia 196.21 I get a thick vertical grey bar on the right side of this (http://www.multiupload.com/553IW7A8G7) Apple Trailer. I was not honoring the stream's defined right cropping. I've fixed it locally and it will be in build 2007.

Guest
8th March 2010, 18:17
A stream for you. Blu-ray source indexed by latest dgdecodenv and encoded by x264 with
...
So, bframes=8 , ref=16. What happens if you use level 4.1 instead of High 5?

Guest
8th March 2010, 21:23
Can you insert the 2006 version number into the standard Windows format? e.g. 2.0.2006.0 (or 2.0.2007.0 in your next release)? My front end uses these version identifiers to ensure that the correct version of DGNVDecode.dll is installed and available. I would like to set:

FILEVERSION 0,0,0,2006
PRODUCTVERSION 0,0,0,2006

Please advise if that does not meet your needs.

SomeJoe
8th March 2010, 23:56
I would like to set:

FILEVERSION 0,0,0,2006
PRODUCTVERSION 0,0,0,2006

Please advise if that does not meet your needs.

That would probably be OK, I could differentiate versions using the last number.

I am assuming the 2006...2007 numbers you're using are release/build numbers, and your beta had been labeled as version 2.0, so I assumed that the version would be 2.0.2007.0.

Having the "private" (last number) available would also allow you to release small bug fixes without a major version increment. Since you do this periodically, I thought that leaving the private field available would offer you more flexibility.

But anything other than the current 0.0.0.0 will suffice, so long as it's incremented on new builds. :)