Rebuilder's Matrix Editor v0.2.0.9

[radar]

manono, thank you for your reply and thank you very much for your time in getting me those links.its help me understand a little more about matrixs.

[Bh4i]

Im following all instructions, but i cant see any difference between all thos matrices.

Any suggestion what im doing wrong?

[feedback]

You need to provide more info. on your setup.

BTW, the ability to change a Matrix is not available when using CCE basic... if you are using that encoder.

[Bh4i]

Im using Pro version. What can i tell more about my setup? I left everything standard in DVD-RB, except:
- 4 passes CCE
- disabled one-click encoding
- using matrix editor

When i select a particular matrix, en run the encode phase, i can see that a m2v file is generated, but i really dont see the differences between all those matrices.
Can u please tell me what kind of futher info u like to have?

[Voodoochild]

When i select a particular matrix, en run the encode phase, i can see that a m2v file is generated, but i really dont see the differences between all those matrices.
Can u please tell me what kind of futher info u like to have?


Some times there almost no differences. It's depending on the segment you are viewing. Sometimes one scene appears to be more blocky then other scene for different segments. you have to look carefully on the scene searching for blocks or other distortions, some times taking snapshot of the same frame is useful, though I usually look on scene it self and not comparing snapshots

[Bh4i]

I looked very carefully on different scenes using different matrices. Even using filters (Deen / UnDot) i cant see a difference. I really think im doing something wrong, but dont know what :o

[feedback]

I looked very carefully on different scenes using different matrices. Even using filters (Deen / UnDot) i cant see a difference. I really think im doing something wrong, but dont know what :o

Use the extract function of the Rebuilder Matrix Editor to see if you are indeed using different matrices. You can also use DGIndex to view what matrices are in a video.

Use the full RB installer jdobbs provides instead of the smaller update to reinstall RB Pro. to make sure you have everything setup as it should be.

P.S.
Make certain you are using RB Pro. v.1.10.8, the latest version.

[Bh4i]

Thnx bro :)

I wasnt looking good enough.. When zoomed in i can see a tiny difference. I heared that matrices could improve quality more than plugins, but right now it seems that isnt...

[jdobbs]

The effect of matrices depends on what you're trying to encode and the bitrate you are using.

[Bh4i]

But i assume DVD-Rebuilder (Pro ofc) itself already uses a good (if not best) matrix for that paricular cell, isnt it?

[chompy]

But i assume DVD-Rebuilder (Pro ofc) itself already uses a good (if not best) matrix for that paricular cell, isnt it?

As a newbie, I also have this question, because as the last Matrix Editor update was made in 2005, it could seem that the matrixes included in the newests releases of DVD-Rebuilder have been more tested and therefore proven to give more quality for a given bitrate compared to the ones included in Matrix Editor...

[Boulder]

DVD-RB uses matrices you set it to use. It doesn't determine whether a specific matrix is good for the material, you need to do that yourself - or leave everything at the default settings which is not a bad idea if you are unsure.

[chompy]

What I mean is that RB as Matrix Editor, also includes matrixes for high-bitrate, medium-bitrate, low-bitrate and very low-bitrate, and my question was related to how performs each of these matrixes compared to their equivalent included in the "older" Matrix Editor.

In other words, the matrixes included in RB are the same as any of the included in Matrix Editor, are they improved versions, or maybe they are older mpeg standard matrixes?

[Boulder]

Open them in Notepad and you'll see if they are the same. I'm quite sure they haven't changed in a while so they probably are the same.

[Edsel]

Is there some secret to getting this to recognise where your rebuilder work directory is? Brand new user to this, long time rebuilder user.

Followed the instructions, clicked preview/test, and I get a "File rebuilder.ecl is not found". This turns into an endless loop, when I click ok, it just pops up again. I end having to terminate it manually. Which is getting extremely tiresome, I've had to kill it in task manager about 93 times already.

The Prepare has been done and rebuilder.ecl file is in my d2avs directory, I'm looking at it right now. That directory is set as follows in rebuilder.ini (trimmed)

[Paths]
Working=F:\ISO\WORK\

Rebuilder.ini is located in the directory specified in editor.ini (trimmed):

[Config]
RebuilderFolder=E:\Programs\DVD-Rebuilder Pro

All Apps are installed on E, data and work space on F.

[edguit@r]

Can't download RB matrix editor. Maybe link is dead? :(

[Rippraff]

Maybe link is dead? :(
No, it's working (http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=24).

Cu Rippraff

[masscamp24]

I am trying to download RME and receive error with existing download links. Can anyone direct me to a working link

[jdobbs]

That site is apparently having problems right now. It's not my site -- but it's being investigated. I'll ask Rockas to load it up on the jdobbs.com site.

[Rockas]

Taking care of it at this moment, thanks for the warning.

[Rockas]

Done.

I took the chance that since today is my birthday to upload a new version :-)

My free time is a little better now, so, feel free to submit bugs or suggestions for improvement. I already started a major code clean up on this release, but I know there are some bugs to track down.

change log:

**NEW**
»»Introduced the support for the HC's feature - Variable Bitrate Bias.

»»Introduced a "Check Newest Version" button on the Setup dialog.

»A file called "BUG.DEB" will be created, under RME installation folder, that can be useful for bug track.


**BUGFIXES**
»» Corrected an error that would enable any user to press the "Play" button before selecting any segment from the "Segments List".

»» Corrected the "'Working Path' is not valid!" error... finally!!!

You can find it here:
http://www.jdobbs.com/Pages/Downloads.htm

[SpazzHH]

Thanks Rockas !!! It's good to see you around again. Missed ya'.

Spazz

[Voodoochild]

10x for the Update and ...Feliz aniversário...
I tried the new M.Editor, regretfully, it doesn't work for me, I set the path to Rebuilder's installation folder but when I try to hit preview after preper phase, I get an alert saying that ecl file wasn't found and this message can't be shut down it's being called recrusively, only way to shut it down is through the task manager..

10x
Elad

[Rockas]

10x for the Update and ...Feliz aniversário...
I tried the new M.Editor, regretfully, it doesn't work for me, I set the path to Rebuilder's installation folder but when I try to hit preview after preper phase, I get an alert saying that ecl file wasn't found and this message can't be shut down it's being called recrusively, only way to shut it down is through the task manager..

10x
Elad

That happens with the previous version too or just with the new one?

@SpazzHH
thank you :-)

[Voodoochild]

That happens with the previous version too or just with the new one?

@SpazzHH
thank you :-)

only with the new

[Rockas]

I need more data please.
Mode used, Encoder and passes at least so I can try to reproduce the problem.
Just made a few test using HC got no error.
Some info about the DVD would be fine too.

thank you

[Voodoochild]

I need more data please.
Mode used, Encoder and passes at least so I can try to reproduce the problem.
Just made a few test using HC got no error.
Some info about the DVD would be fine too.

thank you

it was episode DVD (Sopranos) preper phase with cce sp2 1.0.0.15 trial , 2 pass, no other special settings.
dvd_rb installation path D:\Program Files\DVD RB Pro
dvd_rb work folder path F:\DVD_RIP\DVD RB work folder

10x Elad

[Rockas]

Great... an encoder i don't have lol

Can you send me the rebuilder.ecl and rebuilder.inf files (they are on working folder) to rockas_at_jdobbs.com? (_at_ = @)
thank you

[Voodoochild]

Great... an encoder i don't have lol

Can you send me the rebuilder.ecl and rebuilder.inf files (they are on working folder) to rockas_at_jdobbs.com? (_at_ = @)
thank you


Hi Rockas, Mail sent
Elad

[kabster]

10x for the Update and ...Feliz aniversário...
I tried the new M.Editor, regretfully, it doesn't work for me, I set the path to Rebuilder's installation folder but when I try to hit preview after preper phase, I get an alert saying that ecl file wasn't found and this message can't be shut down it's being called recrusively, only way to shut it down is through the task manager..

10x
Elad


Same scenario here ....!! Using CCE SP2 build 1.1.4 !!

edit: even though the .ecl file is pressent in the workpath!!