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Rockas
9th July 2005, 22:24
Hi there!

I started this new thread because there are great improvements on the "Rebuilder's Matrix Editor"!!!

*** This application is meant to be used with DVD Rebuilder PRO ***
*** (Freeware Release doesn’t support custom Matrices) ***

As Usual forgive my English… hope you understand all I’m trying to say here :D

Version 0.2.0 (9th, July 2005)
Changelog:

*NEW*

»» A new "Preview/Test Matrix" dialog. Why?
Well, I personally found this function very useful to answer the same old question... which is the best Matrix for this movie?
This feature will help you find that.
How does it work? Easy…

1st Run the prepare phase of Rebuilder, as usual… if you want to use the “Segment Editor” to Blank and/or Slide show whatever you want and save it.

2nd Then you can run Matrix Editor… go to Setup Dialog and set the path to:
• Rebuilder’s Matrix Folder (in the future I will merge this path definition with the next – Rebuilder’s main folder)
• Rebuilder’s main folder.
• Set the path to the .exe of your favourite media player (ex. Media Player Classic, WinDVD, Nero Showtime, etc… just choose one – I don’t advise you to use the latest Windows Media Player … it acts weird sometimes… but if you do and the Encoded Segments doesn’t launch… just hit the short cut on the windows quick launch and you’ll have the “movie” loaded) - this media player will be used to view the ENCODED segments... not on the "little" preview you'll see on the "Preview Test Matrix" dialog.

3rd Click on the button “Preview Test Matrix”.

4th Follow the instructions that appear on the centre of the dialog window.

8th If you want you can run several Encodes using several different Matrices – Note that the encoded segments will get the Segment + Matrix name so you can easily identify what you used in every tests.

9th After encoding will all the matrices you may want… you can View the Encoded files double clicking on the list at the bottom middle

After all the tests are made all you got to do is to choose the Matrix that gave you better results on the Rebuilder’s menu and RUN PREPARE PHASE AGAIN (and all the other options must be set again… sorry… it’s safer this way )
The greatest advantage of this feature is that you won’t be running full DVDs tests (what a pain lol) and you’ll be testing with the most close to the final Rebuilder’s definitions – of course that after applying a Matrix that data will change a little, but I think it will always be for Better 


NOTES:
#THIS FEATURE IS ONLY WORKING FOR CCE AND HC MODE IN MULTI-PASS MODE – One pass vbr is on the todo list. – QuEnc will be next… and ProCoder doesn’t support Matrices but I may enable it so you can take a look to how that “hard scene” will look when the job gets done by Rebuilder ;)

#The translation routine isn’t updated in this dialog… I’ll put it UP as soon as I know that the feature is stable.

#This feature may have several bugs… I made it in one week… and I don’t trust myself that much :D
Please… just report any problem you may run to.


»» On the Editing dialog I inserted the possibility to add and/or subtract a pre-defined value to all the Matrix values equally. This may be useful for matrices like the BDVD - it is known that the first Intra value is not Mpeg standard - it's 16 and should be 8 - this new feature will able you to subtract 8 to the first value and it will automatically subtract the same value to all the other keys maintaining the relative values between them.

»» Some rules introduced on the Matrix Creation dialog to help you “not making” incompatible Matrices.


FIXES
»» Several “little bug” fixes.

Thank you all… in advance… don’t forget to report any bugs on this thread.

AND FEEL FREE TO SUGGEST ANY FEATURES YOU MAY THINK USEFUL

v0.2.0.2
here: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=685951#post685951

v0.2.0.3
here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=686274#post686274

v0.2.0.4
here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=686413#post686413

v0.2.0.5
here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=688630#post688630

v0.2.0.6
here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=690953#post690953

v0.2.0.7
here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=693845#post693845

v0.2.0.8
here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=700044#post700044

v0.2.0.9
here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1021896#post1021896
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
You can Get it here:
http://www.jdobbs.com/Pages/Downloads.htm

Rockas
10th July 2005, 01:17
I'm sorry... I found a bug :o

Please... those who already downloaded the file... do it again...

Version 0.2.0.1 (10th July, 2005)
»» The HC "Best" profile wasn't being correctly selected.

djan
11th July 2005, 00:41
Here is. I tried your program and I received the following error just after selecting the segment I want to test :

Run-time error '13':
Type mismatch
Here are the details :

1) I downloaded version 0.2.1.
2) I extracted into DVD-RB's main folder under a folder named 'Tools'.
3) I launched the program and selected the different paths. As I didn't have a folder for Matrices, I created one in DVD-RB's main folder and then selected it as path for Matrices' folder. But there is nothing inside.
4) I pushed 'Apply' button and selected 'MPEG Standard.mtx'.
5) I pushed 'Preview Test Matrix' and then selected a segment to test but then the error appears.

Voilà.

Thx to help me.

Rockas
11th July 2005, 00:45
You have the Rebuilder's "Prepare phase" done, right?
What encoder are you using?

Rockas
11th July 2005, 00:49
Oh! by the way... have you tried to run the program again?
Check if the matrices folder is still empty.

djan
11th July 2005, 01:01
You have the Rebuilder's "Prepare phase" done, right?
What encoder are you using?
Yes, the 'Prepare phase' is done as I see all the segments. I'm using CCE SP 2.67.

Oh! by the way... have you tried to run the program again?
Check if the matrices folder is still empty.
I ran the program many times again just to test again and no, the Matrices' folder isn't empty anymore.

archaeo
11th July 2005, 01:06
OK... loaded MSSTDFMT.DLL into winnt system 32 folder, rebooted. Reloaded Matrix editor into dvd rebuilders main folder. Double clicked on matrix editor and get the same errors:

"Matrix folder wasn't found!! Please select a path to it"

"Run time error 713. Class not registered. You'll need the following file to be installed on your machine: MSSTDFMT.DLL"

cannot open the program at all, it will not launch... am I missing some sequence in loading this thing?

feedback
11th July 2005, 05:54
Some rules introduced on the Matrix Creation dialog to help you “not making” incompatible Matrices.
This is a cool feature.
"This Matrix may not be compatible with CCE" pops up when I choose the
"Soulhunters v8 (HVS3)" Matrix. It is warning me that the highest value supported by CCE is 127 and there is a value higher than that in this particular matrix.

No problems here.

However I do have one question. Since you fixed the HC "Quality/Speed Selection" choices of Fast, Normal, or Best, are the DC precision choices of 8,9,or 10 in Advanced/Expert Options also able to be selected and passed?

Regards,:)

Rockas
11th July 2005, 12:34
@djan
can you send me your Rebuilder.ini, Rebuilder.INF and Rebuilder.ecl?
use rockas dot dvdrebuilder @ gmail dot com

@archaeo
What's your Operative System?
Check this post, please : http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=641293#post641293

@feedback
Glad you made it through the "winds" :)
I've fixed the DC Precision value... it will be out on 0.2.0.2... I was just hoping to clean some other bugs that may appear... like the one posted by djan

I've also enabled the "One Pass VBR".

I'll try to release it as soon as possible.

SpazzHH
11th July 2005, 13:16
@Rockas
Small suggestion, in setup, you might clarify that it is the Rebuilder installation folder that the editor is looking for. It may be just me, but with the editor looking at files from the Prepare stage, at first, I tried directing it to Rebuilder's working folder.

archaeo
11th July 2005, 13:37
rockas,

I'm running Windows 2000.
I'm not at home now so I cannot try the suggestion in the thread (place dll into '%windir%\system' folder), but I will try when I get back.

edit: I noticed it said 'register the dll' - what is that exactly?

Rockas
11th July 2005, 14:07
@archeo
I don't know windows 2000 well

edit: before trying my next suggestion... try to put the dll file on the "system" folder and on "system32". Maybe Windows 2000 searches of the folder called "System"

Try this from the "start -> run"

regsvr32 c:\windows\system32\MSSTDFMT.DLL

c:\windows\system32\msstdfmt.dll = change to the location of your dll

Remember to put the path between "" if you are using long names, like:

"c:\program files\one good folder\another one as example\msstdfmt.dll"

Hope you understand my english :)

@SpazzHH
As I said on the description (first post) I'll merge the first with the second path into one... I'll make it "easily understandable".

Rockas
11th July 2005, 14:32
@Archeo
You may want to try this too:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=en&FamilyID=BF9A24F9-B5C5-48F4-8EDD-CDF2D29A79D5

just download and install the "Visual Basic 6.0 SP5"

djan
11th July 2005, 17:52
@djan
can you send me your Rebuilder.ini, Rebuilder.INF and Rebuilder.ecl?
use rockas dot dvdrebuilder @ gmail dot com
I've send what you asked, I hope you can find my problem. Thx.

archaeo
11th July 2005, 21:41
@archeo

try
regsvr32 c:\windows\system32\MSSTDFMT.DLL

c:\windows\system32\msstdfmt.dll = change to the location of your dll

Remember to put the path between "" if you are using long names, like:

"c:\program files\one good folder\another one as example\msstdfmt.dll"

Hope you understand my english :)

"

OK, that worked- I got the system to register the dll, and the program now opens. Now I'll get on to the testing...

edit:
I'm getting a "run time error 2147467259(80004005)
automation error
unspecified error"
when selecting a segment to encode

using HC v15 as the encoder

Rockas
11th July 2005, 23:48
@archaeo
What version of Rebuilder are you using? - Man I wish I had a copy of Win2000 :(

Rockas
12th July 2005, 00:06
@djan
I think I found "your problem" (mine :D)... just let me run a few more tests... I think I'll be able to release a new version tomorrow... ups... 0:06am... I'll release it later today :D

archaeo
12th July 2005, 00:18
@archaeo
What version of Rebuilder are you using? - Man I wish I had a copy of Win2000 :(

I'm using 93.2 pro

Rockas
12th July 2005, 00:33
Don't you have RC2?... I don't know if the files format have changed...

Where did you get your "MSSTDFMT.DLL"
have you checked if there isn't any new version?
PM you e-mail I'll send you my version (windows XP)... who knows? maybe it works :)

Just to make sure... you have all the paths correctly selected? and you have run the Prepare Phase on DVD Rebuilder, right?... please double check all the paths on Setup Dialog.

It's funny ... but I thought that HC was working fine... CCE is the one that is giving me some headhackes... so many versions... so many file formats... so little time :D

djan
12th July 2005, 01:26
@djan
I think I found "your problem" (mine :D)... just let me run a few more tests... I think I'll be able to release a new version tomorrow... ups... 0:06am... I'll release it later today :D
Hi Rockas,

I'm waiting for this new release and hope that will work fine for me. :)

hutch1711
12th July 2005, 01:49
Okay I must be missing something! How is it possible to judge quality on a viewing screen 5 inches by 3 1/2 inches? Every matrix I load looks the same! Is there some way to increase the view screen size? Also, it doesn't seem to matter which media player (I have 3) I set the path to in Setup, the view screen keeps claiming I'm using the Windows Media player! :confused:

feedback
12th July 2005, 02:52
@hutch1711
After you pick your segment and then your particular matrix you hit prepare in the Matrix Editor.

After prepare you hit the encode in the Matrix Editor. Your encoder starts minimized, after the segment has been encoded with your chosen matrix, you double click the segment in the "encoded segments" section in the bottom middle of the Editor.
At that time your Viewer.exe will come up and play the newly encoded segment.

You have to encode in the Matrix Editor with your chosen matrix before you can view it with WinDVD, Nero ShowTime viewer or whatever viewer you use.
How is it possible to judge quality on a viewing screen 5 inches by 3 1/2 inches?
BTW, I thought the same thing about the "Windows Media Player" coming up as the initial preliminary viewer.
After you encode in the Matrix Editor and double click the segment it will show full screen with, in my case, Nero ShowTime.
Regards,:)

feedback
12th July 2005, 06:48
Here are links to two matrix zip folders that once people download, they can then import their particular Matrix choices within the folders into the Rockas Rebuilder Matrix Editor.
Or as I like to call it, the R&R Matrix Editor.

Matrix zip folder 1 (http://forum.doom9.org/attachment.php?attachmentid=4081)
Matrix zip folder 2 (http://www.ligh.de/software/qmatrix.zip)

Regards,:)

Rockas
12th July 2005, 13:01
Ok... new release... I hope this work better :)

Version 0.2.0.2 (12th July, 2005)
»» Fixed a problem with DVD Rebuilder Freeware.
Note: You can use the Test feature to encode segments but you won't be able to use Matrices 'cause DVD Rebuilder Free doesn't support custom matrices.

»»Some corrections on the .ecl files format - CCE must be coded by a team of women (no offence girls lol)… man they really change their minds :D

»»Corrected the lack of DC Precision definition… the previous releases were using encoder’s default no matter what you defined on Rebuilder

edit: »»Now you can encode without any Matrix selected

You can Get it here:
http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=24

Rockas
12th July 2005, 13:03
Just a question... do you think that it would be usefull if I enable AVS filters so people can test how it will come out using (ex.) UnDot() or Deen()?

Rockas
12th July 2005, 13:06
Okay I must be missing something! How is it possible to judge quality on a viewing screen 5 inches by 3 1/2 inches? Every matrix I load looks the same! Is there some way to increase the view screen size? Also, it doesn't seem to matter which media player (I have 3) I set the path to in Setup, the view screen keeps claiming I'm using the Windows Media player! :confused:
Feedback answered well... maybe this is my fault... I didn't made my self clear... :(

I'll try to come up with a better description... or even better... maybe there's someone out there willing to make a guide ;) :D

archaeo
12th July 2005, 13:37
Just a question... do you think that it would be usefull if I enable AVS filters so people can test how it will come out using (ex.) UnDot() or Deen()?


IMO I like the idea, but maybe it might be best to first work the bugs out of this version before introducing more features. ;)

Rockas
12th July 2005, 13:46
IMO I like the idea, but maybe it might be best to first work the bugs out of this version before introducing more features. ;)
Have you received the .dll?

archaeo
12th July 2005, 13:55
Have you received the .dll?



Rockas,
yes, I received it. I'm at work, so can't try right away. Time difference between here and there makes it a little difficult to do at the same time :rolleyes:

djan
12th July 2005, 21:52
Just a question... do you think that it would be usefull if I enable AVS filters so people can test how it will come out using (ex.) UnDot() or Deen()?Sure !!

Rockas
12th July 2005, 22:03
Sure !!
So... you tested the last releae and it works for you, am I wrong? :D

hutch1711
12th July 2005, 22:04
feedback, many :thanks: for your reply. I knew I had to be missing something. :)

hutch1711
12th July 2005, 22:19
Feedback answered well... maybe this is my fault... I didn't made my self clear... :( :D
Rockas, don't sweat it man. Keep on coding, we'll sort out the details in the forums. :D

djan
12th July 2005, 22:33
So... you tested the last releae and it works for you, am I wrong? :DIt works well ya, but I if I understand well, I first have to push Prepare in Matrix Editor, then Encode and only then I can see how it looks with the used matrix ?

feedback
12th July 2005, 23:54
Well, now I get the " Run-time error '13':Type mismatch" with v0.2.0.2 that djan got in version 0.2.0.1.
I am using the HC encoder, normal mode. It happens in the default and DC10.
Will try other settings to see what happens.

I revert back to v.2.0.1 and it works like it is supposed to. :p

I try v.2.0.2 and the error comes up. After the prepare phase in the Matrix Editor is ok.
When I hit the Encode button in the Matrix Editor the error pops up.

Windows XP
2.4 GHz cpu
1 gig memory

I will keep trying to find the problem.

Regards,:)

feedback
12th July 2005, 23:58
It works well ya, but I if I understand well, I first have to push Prepare in Matrix Editor, then Encode and only then I can see how it looks with the used matrix ?
That is correct. I suggest you try the same segment with different Matrices to compare.

Regards,:)

Rockas
13th July 2005, 00:03
@djan
You must use the "No matrix" checked... Rebuilder Freeware doesn't support custom matrices so there's no use for you to test them

@feedback
Does it only happens when you select NORMAL (Default) and DC 10?

edit: from feed to feedback... sorry wrong spelling lol I hope that there is some feed back not just feed :D

feedback
13th July 2005, 00:16
Thought djan had DVD-RB Pro. Oh well.

Problem is there with DC8,9,10,or default.

Regards,:)


No "feed" till dinner time. :D

Rockas
13th July 2005, 00:18
Ok... but only when you use HC Normal quality?

feedback
13th July 2005, 00:18
Fast, Normal or Best profile still has the problem.

Rockas
13th July 2005, 00:24
Ok... I found it...
We add something... another something gets broken :(

The code for "one pass VBR" messed up HC encode routine :(

Easy to fix thought :D

Feedback,
Can you run a quick test with HC one pass mode?

Thanks

feedback
13th July 2005, 00:29
HC mode, Rockas Original Skin, No steal space from extras, No movie only, or movie and menu only, no movie, menu or slideshow ticked.

Only thing ticked under the "Mode" heading is HC mode, Suppress warning prompt, and Enable "Output" Directory.

feedback
13th July 2005, 00:35
Alright, it works with the "one pass VBR". ;) And you found the problem. :D

A little detective work pays off again.:)

Rockas
13th July 2005, 00:36
HC mode, Rockas Original Skin, No steal space from extras, No movie only, or movie and menu only, no movie, menu or slideshow ticked.

Only thing ticked under the "Mode" heading is HC mode, Suppress warning prompt, and Enable "Output" Directory.
Are you sure you didn't answer in the wrong post? :D
Anyway... I think I fixed it... I'm going to test the "One pass vbr" ... let's hope it works :)

edit: to quick for me :D

Rockas
13th July 2005, 00:55
Version 0.2.0.3 (13th July, 2005)
»»Corrected a bug on HC mode... now it's encoding without errors on multi-pass and one pass vbr modes (I hope :)) - my thanks to feedback for helping me to find the problem.

You can Get it here:
http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=24

djan
13th July 2005, 02:19
@djan
You must use the "No matrix" checked... Rebuilder Freeware doesn't support custom matrices so there's no use for you to test themSo what use for me ? :(

hutch1711
13th July 2005, 03:41
Using DVD-RB Pro v1.00 RC2. Both Rebuilder' Matrix Editor v0.2.0.2 and v0.2.0.3 are giving me the message "You are using DVD Rebuilder Freeware! The Matrices' features will be disabled." when I hit the Preview Test Matrix button. Switch back to v0.2.0.1 and problem is gone! :eek:

SpazzHH
13th July 2005, 04:04
Using DVD-RB Pro v1.00 RC2. Both Rebuilder' Matrix Editor v0.2.0.2 and v0.2.0.3 are giving me the message "You are using DVD Rebuilder Freeware! The Matrices' features will be disabled." when I hit the Preview Test Matrix button. Switch back to v0.2.0.1 and problem is gone! :eek:

Maybe the proggie thinks you haven't donated enough hutch. LOL :D

feedback
13th July 2005, 05:35
Using DVD-RB Pro v1.00 RC2. Both Rebuilder' Matrix Editor v0.2.0.2 and v0.2.0.3 are giving me the message "You are using DVD Rebuilder Freeware! The Matrices' features will be disabled." when I hit the Preview Test Matrix button. Switch back to v0.2.0.1 and problem is gone! :eek:
What OS do you have?
What encoder are you using?
Have you tried a different encoder? (HC if using CCE)


Regards,:)

Rockas
13th July 2005, 12:37
So what use for me ? :(

Let me see... oh! yes just remembered... :D

Compressibility test before DVD-RB
Hi,

Is there a way to do a compressibility test before to start the final encode with DVD-RB ? So, then I know if I have to use some filters or not.

Thanks.
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Using DVD-RB Pro v1.00 RC2. Both Rebuilder' Matrix Editor v0.2.0.2 and v0.2.0.3 are giving me the message "You are using DVD Rebuilder Freeware! The Matrices' features will be disabled." when I hit the Preview Test Matrix button. Switch back to v0.2.0.1 and problem is gone! What is the Encoder you are using?



Maybe the proggie thinks you haven't donated enough hutch. LOL Good point :D