Rebuilder's Matrix Editor v0.2.0.9

[roux]

@Rockas, is it possible there's something wrong with the way RME distributes the bitrate cause i've found some rare results encoding the same segment with different encoders: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=102106

[Rockas]

@Rockas, is it possible there's something wrong with the way RME distributes the bitrate cause i've found some rare results encoding the same segment with different encoders: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=102106
I'll check that.

[Rockas]

@all
Can you please download the tool I post here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=102563

And send me a full report to dvdrebuilder@sapo.pt?

thank you.

[winny]

Just tried this tool recently and it's a superb addition to dvdrb. Neuron2's tool for extracting the original matrix is genious!

Thanks for putting this together Rockas :)

[Rockas]

Just tried this tool recently and it's a superb addition to dvdrb. Neuron2's tool for extracting the original matrix is genious!

Thanks for putting this together Rockas
Thanks :cool:
it's not perfect... yet :)

[masscamp24]

Ya I rebooted, uninstalled and reinstalled RB and RME... I've changed the working path to be different from the source path (which addresses the second part of your message)... I've tried different source material, ones that worked with RME before... I have of course done the prepare phase a dozen times... All I know is RME worked before and now it just won't for me!

Does anyone know where I can download older versions of RME? Only 0.2.0.8 seems to be available on the links provided earlier in this thread.

Has anyone else with this working path bug found a workaround? Rockas, are you still lurking about out there?

I'm also experiencing this "WORKING PATH NOT VALID" bug amd I do not know how to get around it. I'm so frustrated as RME seems to be a great tool which a rookie like me need. Therefore I'm calling on Rockas to help us!!!!!!!!!

[Rockas]

I'm also experiencing this "WORKING PATH NOT VALID" bug amd I do not know how to get around it. I'm so frustrated as RME seems to be a great tool which a rookie like me need. Therefore I'm calling on Rockas to help us!!!!!!!!!
have you tested this version too?:
http://www.dvdrebuilder.com/downloads/addons/MatrixEditorTest.rar

if you didn't... try it... if it doesn't work... I'll get another test version... If only I could reproduce the problem :(

[masscamp24]

have you tested this version too?:
http://www.dvdrebuilder.com/downloads/addons/MatrixEditorTest.rar

if you didn't... try it... if it doesn't work... I'll get another test version... If only I could reproduce the problem :(

How do I install this version? I download it save it to desktop and cannot open it. GAAAAAAA Help please!!!!!!!!!

[SpazzHH]

How do I install this version? I download it save it to desktop and cannot open it. GAAAAAAA Help please!!!!!!!!!
You must have WinRar installed on your system to uncompress the file, then launch the .exe

[masscamp24]

You must have WinRar installed on your system to uncompress the file, then launch the .exe
I do not understand? Do I put the WinRar file in the same folder with RME and launch it. Please inform me how to set it up.

[Rockas]

No... WinRAR is an Application like WinZIP... Google it, you'll find it fast :)
That was my mistake... I should have chosen ZIP format but I really prefer RAR... better compression :)

[masscamp24]

Thanks Rockas I'm going to try and download WinRAR now. I will let you know how it is proceeding

[masscamp24]

I cannot say this :(
Now I can run preview mode, but after info about 'Working Path not valid'. Than I choose part of film and start test. Prepare process is ok, but encode not. I have message 'Invalid procedure call or argument' and next 'Encoding process completed!' but nothing is in the list to preview.
Same thing happen to me when I try the new test version

[Rockas]

Same thing happen to me when I try the new test version
Can you send me your Rebuilder.ini file to rockas.dvdrebuilder_at_gmail.com? (_at_ = @)

thanks

ps. your current DVD has multi-angles? can you tell me what it is? which region?

[Rippraff]

It would be a lot easier with RME :D
I would agree with this, if your RME which I like a lot :) would work in the right manner for testing. ;)
But as I've reported here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=717760#post717760) two months ago the bitrates compare RB and RME are different and if I'm doing a VBR encode I would like to do this as well with a single segment instead of OPV. ;)

By the way I'm sure there might be easier ways, but this was one which I've tested and worked well.

Cu Rippraff

Sorry... I completly forgot about you :(
I need to know your exact config on Rebuilder... are you using RB-Opt?
I've been doing several tests and everything works fine, sometimes there's small differences on the bitrate but nothing that will make any better or worst results.
No I didn't use RB-Opt, just made a full backup and started RME after the prepare phase. As you can see in my example, the differences in avr. bitrate aren't little.
By the way spyhawk (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=725891#post725891) reported the same behaviour.

Cu Rippraff

[Rockas]

@Rippraff
That data came out on a time that I was too occupied with other stuff to pay enough atention... I'm sorry for that :(
I guess that the problem is on the Max Bitrate setting.
I'll review the code during next week.

thanks for the head up :)

[Rippraff]

No need for excuses! :)

Wouldn't it be easier to read the original values stored in Rebuilder.ecl? Like vbr_brate_avg=
vbr_brate_min=
vbr_brate_max=
as well as vmode= and
video_type=

Cu Rippraff

[Rockas]

No need for excuses! :)

Wouldn't it be easier to read the original values stored in Rebuilder.ecl? Like vbr_brate_avg=
vbr_brate_min=
vbr_brate_max=
as well as vmode= and
video_type=

Cu Rippraff
I wish it was that easy :)
Usually people use one Windows API to get data from files like an ECL where you have sections (ex. [Example]) and variables/keys inside those sections (ex Example= ).
the problem is that API doesn't support Sections with the same name... as you can see on a "Rebuilder made" ECL file that happens ('cause its needed so...).
I need to get that data mannually, but don't worry... I think I might do that... I think I found a way :)
I'll work on that during next week... I hope :D

[dialysis1]

I tried RME and I think I followed the instructions. I ran the prepare phase first and then I chose my matrix in DVD-RB's options using HC encoder but the encoding was done with the standard MPEG matrix.
I then tried it again this time selecting a matrix first and then prepare and then I got the custom matrix. Did I read the instructions wrong or did I miss something?

[Rockas]

After selecting a Custom Matrix, you really need to run prepare phase again.

[feedback]

I tried RME and I think I followed the instructions. I ran the prepare phase first and then I chose my matrix in DVD-RB's options using HC encoder but the encoding was done with the standard MPEG matrix.
I then tried it again this time selecting a matrix first and then prepare and then I got the custom matrix. Did I read the instructions wrong or did I miss something?
1st Run the prepare phase of Rebuilder, as usual… if you want to use the “Segment Editor” to Blank and/or Slide show whatever you want and save it.

2nd Then you can run Matrix Editor… go to Setup Dialog and set the path to:
• Rebuilder’s Matrix Folder (in the future I will merge this path definition with the next – Rebuilder’s main folder)
• Rebuilder’s main folder.
• Set the path to the .exe of your favourite media player (ex. Media Player Classic, WinDVD, Nero Showtime, etc… just choose one – I don’t advise you to use the latest Windows Media Player … it acts weird sometimes… but if you do and the Encoded Segments doesn’t launch… just hit the short cut on the windows quick launch and you’ll have the “movie” loaded) - this media player will be used to view the ENCODED segments... not on the "little" preview you'll see on the "Preview Test Matrix" dialog.

3rd Click on the button “Preview Test Matrix”.

4th Follow the instructions that appear on the centre of the dialog window.

8th If you want you can run several Encodes using several different Matrices – Note that the encoded segments will get the Segment + Matrix name so you can easily identify what you used in every tests.

9th After encoding will all the matrices you may want… you can View the Encoded files double clicking on the list at the bottom middle

After all the tests are made all you got to do is to choose the Matrix that gave you better results on the Rebuilder’s menu and RUN PREPARE PHASE AGAIN (and all the other options must be set again… sorry… it’s safer this way 
The greatest advantage of this feature is that you won’t be running full DVDs tests (what a pain lol) and you’ll be testing with the most close to the final Rebuilder’s definitions – of course that after applying a Matrix that data will change a little, but I think it will always be for Better 


Start from Here and read this Thread. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=684740#post684740) The above is by Rockas.

[dialysis1]

That's the information I was looking for! I don't know how I missed that. Thank you so much!

[HKT3020_1]

I'm having a bit of a problem, I've set up RME as posted on the first page and for some reason I'm getting a message during preview/test...
"Working Path Not Valid!" :confused:
Any suggestions would be appreciated.

[Rockas]

Have you tried the "Test Version" I posted a few posts behind? ;)

[jmp0889]

I just tried my first attempt to use the Matrix Editor. I can easily see how most of it works, except for the filters. I wanted to apply Matrix #4 with both undot & deen filters to War of the worlds. I selected the matrix ok & was able to select both filters, however, when I clicked the "Update Rebuilder" button, nothing seemed to happen. When I switched to RBPro, I was expecting the matrix & filters to then be selected in RB Options. The matrix was not selected & the Filter Editor in RB showed Not Active (contained no filters). How is the matrix & filters supposed to work & how can I take advantage of the settings?

[HKT3020_1]

have you tested this version too?:
http://www.dvdrebuilder.com/downloads/addons/MatrixEditorTest.rar

if you didn't... try it... if it doesn't work... I'll get another test version... If only I could reproduce the problem :(

Is the link not working for anyone else? :confused:

[feedback]

Is the link not working for anyone else? :confused:
The link is working fine for me. Downloading the .rar file as I speak.

Try it at a different time and also check you firewall and privacy settings, if they are set to high it will not download.

[J-Wo]

OK, very odd. I uninstalled DVD-RB, deleted the Matrix Editor folder, deleted a 2 references to DVD-RB in the registry, then did a fresh install of DVD-RB - now the editor works. What changed?!
This seems to be the key to all my "working path not valid" problems! Even though I'd uninstalled and reinstalled DVD-RB and RME *many* times, I had never cleaned out the registry. I used a great program called RegSupreme which scans the registry and organizes all entries based on program name or software group. So after uninstalled DVD-RB, I ran the program and selected the entry for DVD-RB Pro. Once deleting those entries I reinstalled RB and RME and everything worked fine!

Somewhere down the line I must have changed the folder where I installed DVD-RB. So in the registry there must have been old entries. Or maybe there were old entries for the current working path. Regardless, cleaning the registry of any DVD-RB references did the trick! If you don't have RegSupreme (can easily be downloaded by searching for it in Google) I'm sure you could manually search for the entries in the registry yourself.

Rockas I hope this helps you identify the problem. And I hope this helps other users out there!

[Ja32]

Rockas, it works :D
J-Wo, you are great!!!

[rushdx]

I am trying to use the RME, and I keep on receiving this error:

Runtime error '339'
Compnent 'COMDCG32.OCX' or one of its dependencies not currently registered; a file missing or invaild.

I have the direction on properly setting up the program and I using Rebuilder v1.04.

Thanks for the help

[Rockas]

What is your OS?

[Rockas]

Please check your spelling... are you sure about the 'COMDCG32.OCX' wouldn't that be 'COMDLG32.OCX' or 'MSCOMCTL.OCX'?
If that is one of these two... just 'google' it and download it... put it in the same folder as REM executable.

[rushdx]

Thanks for the help Rockas. I googled 'COMDLG32.OCX' and it fixed the problem and the program working fine. Sorry about the spelling above.

[rushdx]

where do you find the fox Home entertainment matrix so that I can import it and use it?

[manono]

Here:

08 08 09 11 13 13 14 17
08 08 11 12 13 14 17 18
09 11 13 13 14 17 17 19
11 11 13 13 13 17 18 20
11 13 13 13 16 17 20 24
13 13 13 16 17 20 24 29
13 12 13 17 19 23 28 34
12 13 17 19 23 28 34 41

08 08 08 09 09 09 09 10
08 08 09 09 09 09 10 10
08 09 09 09 09 10 10 10
09 09 09 09 10 10 10 10
09 09 09 10 10 10 10 11
09 09 10 10 10 10 11 11
09 10 10 10 10 11 11 11
10 10 10 10 11 11 11 11

It's included as #1 High_High.

[rushdx]

thanks Manono

[spyhawk]

Speaking of matrix, anyone tried Smooth CG (3800+), and Kika Comic Low (CG) (2500-3800) matrices? How do they look in your eyes? Is there any CG matrix good for below 2500? Please post it here.

Based on your experience, which one looks better: Angel Bestlow/BestVeryLow compare to BACH1? How 'bout RebuMan (2500-3000) vs QLB? So far I've been using BACH1 as very low bitrate, and QLB as low bitrate in Rebuilder's matrix option selection. It's hard to decide when to use Angel Bestlow and BestVeryLow as the bitrate can vary widely. I'd like to know anyone's experience in using the Angel and Rebuman matrices.

[J-Wo]

I was doing some comparisons of the Extras material on Desperate Housewives season 1, whose bitrate was avg. 2000 kbps. I found Rebuman was good at smoothing macroblocks in the background while preserving foreground details compared to the other low bitrate matrices you mentioned. This was a test I did on only one segment though and by comparing frames in virtualdub, I find I have a hard time comparing results on my TV.

[ilpippo80]

@Rockas
I don't know if the 'Working Path is not valid' is still an unresolved issue, anyway I just performed a clean WinXP Sp2 install, installed DVD Rebuilder 1.05.2 with the installer and I'm still having that problem with RME. So it definitely can't be related to something left by old versions of DVD-RB, at least in my case. I hope I can help to find the problem...
In the attached file I put:
- Rebuilder's ini, log, ecl and inf files
- RME's ini file
- comdlg32.ocx and msstdfmt.dll I downloaded from www.dll-files.com needed by RME (I don't think they could be the issue, but who knows?)
- the log files of filemon and regmon utilities (available at www.sysinternals.com) which show what happens when I push the Preview/Test button and the 'Working Path is not valid' window pops up
Let me know if there's anything else I can do!
Pippo

[Rockas]

Are you using the version I posted here:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=740257#post740257 ?

[ilpippo80]

Yeah, I already tried it before cleaning up and reinstalling xp, anyway I tried it again now (with the same results):
this version still has the popup issue, but it allows me to go to the next window.
Here, I can select the avs file, I can see the preview, I can select the matrix and I can push the prepare button.
Anyway, in the bottom left corner all the encoders are greyed out (by the way, I have HC and QuEnc installed), I cannot select any of them, and when I press encode I get the following popup:
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/7302/immagine1ed.th.png (http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=immagine1ed.png)

:scared: :scared: :scared:

[Rockas]

Thanks... your info seems to be valuable... let me analyse it... maybe this time I'm getting somewhere :)

By the way... do you have DVD Rebuilder closed when you run RME? If you have it running can you try it again this time with DVD Rebuilder closed?

[ilpippo80]

Yes, it was closed...
Just tell me if you need any other information!
Glad to be useful!

[knife]

Hi Rockas,

I also have the famous "working path invalid". I have tried everything except clean install of winxp.
Can you give us a hint on how you trigger "working path...", maybe it can help. Right now I do not know were to focus my problem solving for this issue on my system.

I started to love this app and still do, but today I only use it for extracting matrix and custom them but I'd really would like to get back and use it's full potential.

Best regards
Knife

[Rockas]

I started working on a similar application but since it will take longer than I expected I'll try to build up a debug version of RME to track that bug down.

I'll try to make it as fast as I can.

[Rockas]

@ilpippo80
@knife
Can you PM me your e-mail addresses?
I think I can send you a debug version even today.

If there's anyone out there with the same problem, please PM me the e-mail too... thanks.

[knife]

//Knife

[Rockas]

I just sent you guys the new release... I will be around for the next 3 hours so... call me :)

[knife]

Rockas: You got mail
//knife

[Rockas]

Rockas: You got mail
//knife
You too ;)