Rebuilder's Matrix Editor v0.2.0.9

[Rockas]

That's why, when I'm on vacation, I only drink the local beer instead of the local water. No Montezuma's Revenge for me.
lol... that's what I tried to do :D
As I usually say:
"Beer is good... but when you have a clean, pure and cold water... beer is better" :D

but I sometimes forget that!!! lol

[Rockas]

@t3rror and Ja32
Can you please send me (Ja32 - again) the contents of your working folder (no m2v files, please :)) and give me some info about the movies you are trying to do?
The error only happens on HC mode?

edit:
ZIP the files and send them to rockas.dvdrebuilderATgmail.com (AT=@)

Thank you

[roux]

I'm trying to preview some matrices but i'm getting a 'working path' not valid error. I've pointed out the location of dvdrebuilder in the setup like the readme says. Also started the prepare phase.

[Aquilonious]

@Rockas:

Do you take suggestions for new builds of RME? Thought so. :D

Here's a few:

The following filters: Pixedust (2), FFT3DFilter, and... oh heck, just choose from here: :p

http://www.avisynth.org/fizick/ (scroll down to see all the filters)

But I would REALLY like to see support for Pixedust (2) added. (subtle hint)

Just look at some of the results here:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=85790&page=5&pp=20&highlight=noise+filter

Thanks!!

P.S. I'm working hard to overpass your 1800+ posts. hehehe

[feedback]

Just some info. that someone down the road may be able to use.

I have 2 computers and just decided to put the Rebuilder Matrix Editor by Rockas on my second one.

I went to install the RME but got the infamous MSSTDFMT.DLL error.
No problem I thought, I just copied it from my 1st computer (They are both using XP) and installed it on the 2nd one in the system32 folder.

Still did not work, then I remembered Rockas advising archeo on his win2000 system.

So, I did the regsvr32 c:\windows\system32\MSSTDFMT.DLL procedure. Well the MSSTDFMT.DLL error didn't come up but a comdlg32.ocx error came up instead.

I went to system32 file and it was not there. So, I go back to the first computer copy the file and install on the 2nd computer. Yeah! It worked.

I finally got the Rebuilder Matrix Editor to open. I then proceeded to setup all the paths and everything is fine.

It seems I needed the MSSTDFMT.DLL and the COMDLG32.OCX to get everything working again.

Regards,:)

[Mr. Monte]

just for linearity sake..couldn't Rockas make installation of those two DLL's in his installer..then that would solve this issue. BTW..I had the same issue as you above.

[Wheelie4]

I just downloaded and tried Matrix Editor for the first time. BUT, I got the same COMDLG32.ocx error feedback did. I did a PC search and the file doesn't exist on my PC (WinXP Home SP2) and I do not have another computer to copy from.

[feedback]

Well, just Google the COMDLG32.ocx you are missing then drop it in your system32 folder.
If it still does not work do regsvr32 c:\windows\system32\COMDLG32.ocx

Regards,:)

[feedback]

I just downloaded and tried Matrix Editor for the first time. BUT, I got the same COMDLG32.ocx error feedback did. I did a PC search and the file doesn't exist on my PC (WinXP Home SP2) and I do not have another computer to copy from.
@Wheelie
Did you get RME working yet?
For WinXP Click Start then Run...type in

regsvr32 c:\windows\system32\COMDLG32.ocx

This of course is after you download the COMDLG32.ocx

Let us know if you have problems and we will work you through it if need be.

It is a great add-on BTW.

Regards,:)

[Wheelie4]

@Wheelie
Did you get RME working yet?

Yes I did, by following your advice. Thank you. Now I just gotta learn how to use it. :) But I'm setting that step on the back burner for now. My OTA HiDef receiver just died yesterday (must be replaced quickly!) and I'm in the middle of configuring a new Harmony remote I got to replace my One4All. Isn't life grand. :D

[feedback]

Yes I did, by following your advice. Thank you. Now I just gotta learn how to use it. :) But I'm setting that step on the back burner for now. My OTA HiDef receiver just died yesterday (must be replaced quickly!) and I'm in the middle of configuring a new Harmony remote I got to replace my One4All. Isn't life grand. :D
Your welcome!
Glad you got it worked out.

Regards:)

[Rippraff]

Hi,

I've done some testings with RME, DVD-RB RC6, CCE SP 2.70 yesterday and now I'm a little bit confused:
Movie was Terminal (PAL), after Prepare RB gives an average bitrate of 4,003 bps so I wanted to test with high_low and high_medium.

The first thing: Under "Segment Info" where does this Bitrate value come from?
It's different (and always to high) compare to the original Rebuilder.ecl. As an example, Original 4,284, RME 5,976

Second, I'm wondering how RME works. I've expected RME to do a VBR multipass with the average bitrate stored in the ecl file instead it does an OPV encoding with different average bitrates:
high_high 6.46 kbps
high_medium 6.04 kbps
high_low 4.33 kbps
low_low 3.13 kbps
As you can imagine with a clear source the high matrix will always give better results.

Cu Rippraff

[Rockas]

I've been quite busy on the last weeks and I hadn't got the time to update it :(
I started 0.2.0.9 already but I still have another week in hell, sorry :(
Only after the 10th October, i'll be able to restart my work on RME... just a little more patience :)

[Rippraff]

Take your time. I just wanted to let you know that in my case there are some strange things happening. ;)

Cu Rippraff

[steptoe]

Would it be possible in future versions to add filters or filter chains of your own choice so that they can be tested and tweaked for each project to save time in having to run a full backup, find out the filter doesn't do what you want or needs tweaking more, then have to run a backup again

Its a very useful option you have started to add and I'm sure will make life much easier for those that like to play or have poor quality sources to try and clean up. Old B+W sources of movies and series especially that are basically just a straight transfer to DVD

[Rockas]

Would it be possible in future versions to add filters or filter chains of your own choice so that they can be tested and tweaked for each project to save time in having to run a full backup, find out the filter doesn't do what you want or needs tweaking more, then have to run a backup again

Its a very useful option you have started to add and I'm sure will make life much easier for those that like to play or have poor quality sources to try and clean up. Old B+W sources of movies and series especially that are basically just a straight transfer to DVD
On the bottom right Text box you can manually write any script you want using the filters you need, just don't forget to have them on the AviSynth's plugins folder.

[feedback]

Yes, it is easy to do. I tried it the other day on a segment with
RemoveDirtS() just to check out the filter and what effect it had on the movie.
Like Rockas said just make sure it is in the AviSynth folder also.

Regards,:)

[Aquilonious]

Yes, it is easy to do. I tried it the other day on a segment with
RemoveDirtS() just to check out the filter and what effect it had on the movie.
Like Rockas said just make sure it is in the AviSynth folder also.

Regards,:)

Just remember that there's a limit to how many filters/files (50?) you can put into the AviSynth plugins folder. If you go over the limit you will get errors.

[steptoe]

Many thanks, I'll try that on the next DVD thats a crap transfer or that collection of cartoons I have to put on DVD yet

I only have about 6 or 7 plugins anyway. Don't use them all, but thats just what I use at the moment

[J-Wo]

Second, I'm wondering how RME works. I've expected RME to do a VBR multipass with the average bitrate stored in the ecl file instead it does an OPV encoding with different average bitrates:
high_high 6.46 kbps
high_medium 6.04 kbps
high_low 4.33 kbps
low_low 3.13 kbps
As you can imagine with a clear source the high matrix will always give better results.

I am having the exact same question as Rippraff. It seems the higher bitrate encodings always come out to a higher file size than the low bitrate ones, so how is that a true comparison of the final encode? The high bitrate samples are probably oversized so you'd have to further compress them in the end anyway... quite confused here. :(

P.S. is Fox Entertainment Matrix the same as High_High(4000+)?

[Boulder]

I think the program uses a fixed Q value for the encodes. When you encode a clip with different matrices and a fixed Q value, the avg bitrates will vary, often greatly. The variation comes from the fact that some matrices quantize more (for example CCE's low and very low), some less (such as Fox Home Entertainment).

And yes, high_high is FHE.

[J-Wo]

okay all of a sudden when I click the preview/test button, I get the error message "The file rebuilder.ecl doesn't exist! Please run rebuilder's prepare phase before running this feature". Only thing is I've run the damn prepare phase 10 times. But after deleting and reinstalling RME, I notice that the editor.ini file has no link to my working directory where rebuilder.ecl is. Any ideas guys?

[J-Wo]

I just wanted to let you know that I am getting a 'Working Path is not valid!' error when I click on the preview button. I checked the rebuilder.ini and it is pointing to c:/dvd/. That is where everything takes place. Inside that directory is the D2VAVS directory. That is where all the files are after the PREPARE phase in RB-PRO RC5. I am using CCE 2.7.something. I am using multipass VBR, 3-pass.
Now my error is the same as yours, "working path is not valid". aaaah I'm about to pull my hair out!

[J-Wo]

here is the contents of my rebuilder.ini file. I don't understand why RME isn't detecting the working path and inserting it into editor.ini...
[Options]
Mode=1
OneClick=0
ReduceOpt=1
NoWarn=1
AdditionalOutput=1
LogFile=1
QuEncHQ=1
EncoderMinimized=1
RemoveDTS=1
HC_Quality=1
HC_Matrix=1
CCE=3
SkinVersion=8
Skin=Teck Original
QuEncodeType=0
DVD_Label=BLANKED SHRINK
DVD_Name=BLANKED SHRINK.ISO
MovieOnly=0
HalfD1=00
Convert_16_9=00
DisableInterlace=00
AudioDub=0
AVSFilter01=letterbox(56,56,16,16)
[Paths]
MPEG2DEC=D:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\DGDecode.dll
Output=F:\BATMAN_BEGINS\blanked shrink\
Working=F:\BATMAN_BEGINS\blanked shrink\
CCENew=D:\Program Files\CCE SP 2.70.01.05\cctspt.exe
Source=F:\BATMAN_BEGINS\BLANKED SHRINK\

[Rippraff]

@J-Wo
Never use the same folder for working and source path! They must be different.

Cu Rippraff

[J-Wo]

@J-Wo
Never use the same folder for working and source path! They must be different.

I'm not so sure about that, because that's the way I've been doing it for a long time now. Even though they appear to be the same path, the working path is actually the D2AVS subfolder within the source path. It's just not reflected in rebuilder.ini, that's all.

If you wouldn't mind, could you please paste a working copy of your rebuilder.ini and RME's editor.ini? I think those are the two files. I only need to see the folder information to see if mine are correct. thanks.

[roux]

When using a different working path then the source path makes no difference. I've the same problem and posted it somewhere in a new thread. Rockas was going to solve this problem but he was quite busy so maybe with the next release of RME it's solved.

[spyhawk]

@J-Wo,

Just delete Editor.ini. Start up RME again, and go to Setup and reset all the paths again, like:

Matrices' folder: D:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Matrix
Rebuilder's folder: D:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO

When you're in the Preview/Test Window, make sure your Working Path is "F:\BATMAN_BEGINS\blanked shrink\D2VAVS\"

[spyhawk]

I notice RME 0.2.0.8 displays the Bitrate differently from the rebuilder.ecl for every segment selected. Where does RME get the bitrate? Shouldn't it get the value of vbr_brate_avg from rebuilder.ecl?

I even tried to overwrite this value from preview.ecl and preview.ini, but is overwritten again when I hit Encode, which is really annoying. Looks like it reads the value from the RME interface instead from the preview files.

Here's an example from one segment:
rebuilder.ecl
vbr_brate_avg=2399
vbr_brate_min=500
vbr_brate_max=7800

Hitting Prepare in RME does not yet create the preview files, which I expect it to create already so it can be manually modified. Hitting Encode creates the preview.ecl and preview.ini. I stopped the encode process. Manually modify the files. Hit Encode again, but is overwritten.

preview.ecl
vbr_brate_avg=3052 (as displayed in RME)
vbr_brate_min=500
vbr_brate_max=9000

Also, RME adds a line pulldown_detect=0 in preview.ecl, which is redundant but doesn't hurt.

[J-Wo]

@J-Wo,

Just delete Editor.ini. Start up RME again, and go to Setup and reset all the paths again, like:

Matrices' folder: D:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO\Matrix
Rebuilder's folder: D:\Program Files\DVD-RB PRO

When you're in the Preview/Test Window, make sure your Working Path is "F:\BATMAN_BEGINS\blanked shrink\D2VAVS\"
I've already tried that, but it doesn't work! I even changed my working path to be different from the source. In rebuilder.ini, it reads "Working=F:\DVD-RB WORK\", but there is no such line in editor.ini. Whenever I click the Preview/Test button, I get the error message "Working Path is not valid". For some reason it's not able to acquire the working path from rebuilder.ini.

Could you please post a working copy of editor.ini? I need to see what syntax it uses to define the working path. As I've stated, mine is missing that line and I don't know how to edit it manually.

[spyhawk]

That's right, there is no such line in editor.ini. When you click Preview/Test button, look in the upper left corner of Preview/Test Window, there is a field for Working Path. What does it say? If it doesn't point to the right path, then click on "..." to point it to the path that has D2VAVS folder in it. If this still doesn't list the segment lists, then exit RME and restart again.

If this still doesn't work, then reinstall full version of DVD-RB.

Here's a copy of editor.ini :

[Colors]
BackColor=16737808
TextColor=16777215
StripesColor=14306832
ButtonsColor=4210752
[Config]
InterfaceVersion=6
Language=English.lng
MatrixFolder=C:\DVD Installed Tools\DVD-RB PRO\Matrix
RebuilderFolder=C:\DVD Installed Tools\DVD-RB PRO
Player=C:\Program Files\CyberLink\PowerDVD\PowerDVD.exe

[J-Wo]

That's right, there is no such line in editor.ini. When you click Preview/Test button, look in the upper left corner of Preview/Test Window, there is a field for Working Path. What does it say?
I don't want to sound like a broken record, but I've already told you what happens when I click the Preview/Test button:
Whenever I click the Preview/Test button, I get the error message "Working Path is not valid".
So you see, I never get to the Preview/Test Window! I have already uninstalled DVD-RB and reinstalled it from the exe file (both v1.01 Pro and 1.0RC6 Pro), deleted RME and reinstalled it from the zip file... I think almost everything.

The thing that really irks me is everything was working fine yesterday. I did a couple preview/tests and closed down RME. Then I ran RME again and all of a sudden I got this working path bug! It literally made no changes to my system. I'm using CCE SP Trial 2.70.01.05, everything in DVD-RB is at default settings.

[spyhawk]

IC..... strange behavior indeed. Then I don't know what's up. How 'bout a reboot or even do a System Restore to an earlier date. Don't know if it helps.

btw, you did change the working path in rebuilder.ini, "Working=F:\DVD-RB WORK\" from "Working=F:\BATMAN_BEGINS\blanked shrink\" in your previous posts, correct? I assume you know what you are doing, and that there are files in D2VAVS folder within this working path. Maybe these files are corrupt - how 'bout redo the Prepare.

[Rippraff]

I notice RME 0.2.0.8 displays the Bitrate differently from the rebuilder.ecl for every segment selected. Where does RME get the bitrate? Shouldn't it get the value of vbr_brate_avg from rebuilder.ecl?
Like I've posted here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=717760#post717760)

Cu Rippraff

[spyhawk]

oops, I must've missed your post. Think of it as another confirmation. ;)

[J-Wo]

IC..... strange behavior indeed. Then I don't know what's up. How 'bout a reboot or even do a System Restore to an earlier date. Don't know if it helps.

btw, you did change the working path in rebuilder.ini, "Working=F:\DVD-RB WORK\" from "Working=F:\BATMAN_BEGINS\blanked shrink\" in your previous posts, correct? I assume you know what you are doing, and that there are files in D2VAVS folder within this working path. Maybe these files are corrupt - how 'bout redo the Prepare.
Ya I rebooted, uninstalled and reinstalled RB and RME... I've changed the working path to be different from the source path (which addresses the second part of your message)... I've tried different source material, ones that worked with RME before... I have of course done the prepare phase a dozen times... All I know is RME worked before and now it just won't for me!

Does anyone know where I can download older versions of RME? Only 0.2.0.8 seems to be available on the links provided earlier in this thread.

Has anyone else with this working path bug found a workaround? Rockas, are you still lurking about out there?

[Rockas]

I think I'll have to delay other items before I get that fixed, right? :D
I'll release a new version that will allow you to get into the Preview window... you will get the message but you'll be able to manually select the path on the top left button.
Maybe we can find what's missing!?!?!?

About the different bitrates... I'll check that...

[robot1]

@Rockas
If I'm not wrong, you calculate the bitrate using the video_sectors parameter in the rebuilder.inf, instead of reading the rebuilder.ecl.
Anyaway the difference is usually very little.

[charleski]

I'm also getting the 'Working Path not valid' problem :(

[chrisjim]

I'm also getting the 'Working Path not valid' problem


Me too.

[Rockas]

I'm still working on that one... I gor many working folders from many users and I couldn't reproduce the problem yet... AAAAAAaaaaarrrrrrggggg!!!!

Odd, isn't it?
Can you guys give me all the possible info about the DVDs you are using?

[chrisjim]

It happens with all dvd's, PAL, NTSC, including Criterion dvd's which are supposed to be flawlessly authored.

BTW, the preview function did work a couple of versions back. Can't remember exactly which version though.

[Rockas]

Ok... lest try it this way...
I've uploaded an Test release that will give you the same message but the preview dialog will come up... then tell me what happens, ok?

Get it here:
http://www.dvdrebuilder.com/downloads/addons/MatrixEditorTest.rar

NOTE:
The RAR file only contains the EXE file... just test it making a copy of your current folder and then replace the EXE file.

[roux]

Yes now it works perfectly, thanks ;)

Great job Rockas.

[Ja32]

I cannot say this :(
Now I can run preview mode, but after info about 'Working Path not valid'. Than I choose part of film and start test. Prepare process is ok, but encode not. I have message 'Invalid procedure call or argument' and next 'Encoding process completed!' but nothing is in the list to preview.

[Rockas]

@Ja32
Have you tried to select the work folder using the browse button on the top left of the Preview dialog?

[Ja32]

No, but it is the same, when I do this.

[chrisjim]

I get exactly the same results as Ja32

[rendez2k]

OK, I also have the 'Working Path not valid' problem. Using the test version allows me to get to the next screen, where I can preview all the segments, but then the encoders are grayed out (using HC Encoder on my test machine. Also did a full clean reinstall of the latest rebuilder pro.). Hitting prepare works fine, but then fails at the encode section - I guess because it can't find an encoder?

[rendez2k]

OK, very odd. I uninstalled DVD-RB, deleted the Matrix Editor folder, deleted a 2 references to DVD-RB in the registry, then did a fresh install of DVD-RB - now the editor works. What changed?!