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Rockas
13th July 2005, 12:41
Ok... I'm doomed... Seems to me that CCE ain't working on 0.2.0.3... can anyone confirm this?
Man... this is driving me nuts...
- Who was the guy that had the bright ideia of having more than one encoder? :D

Rockas
13th July 2005, 13:09
Version 0.2.0.4 (13th July, 2005)

»»Ok... after fixing HC I damaged CCE encoding... fixed!

»»Enabled CCE 2.50 - note that CCE 2.50 doesn't support custom Matrices but you can always use the Test feature to "See" how it will look like on the end of Rebuilder's job... and you can use it to test the effect of filters you may have introduced using Rebuilder's "Filter Editor".



Lets hope that this time I can dedicate my time to other encoders and new features :)

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
You can Get it here:
http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=24

feedback
13th July 2005, 20:33
@Rockas
Everything seems stable using the HC encoder with the Rockas Rebuilder Matrix Editor v.0.2.0.4 :D

Fast, normal, and best quality setting using DC 8,9,and 10 are being passed and all working OK.

One pass VBR working OK with the 8,9,and 10 DC precision settings.

Yea!! :D :)

Regards,:)

Rockas
13th July 2005, 20:45
Thank God! :)

I won't be able to run intensive tests on CCEs today...
Maybe tomorrow... if someone finds any problem please report.

hutch1711
13th July 2005, 22:41
What OS do you have?
What encoder are you using?
Have you tried a different encoder? (HC if using CCE)


Regards,:)
The problem still exists (at least for me) using new version 0.2.0.4. Tried CCE and HC, and both give me the same message as previously reported. Using Windows XP Pro SP2 with an AMD Athlon 64 3500+ processor and CCE 2.70.1.5 trial. The problem doesn't exist if I revert back to version 0.2.0.1. :confused:

Rockas
13th July 2005, 22:53
@hutch
What's your CCE version?
Are you sure you are using DVD Rebuilder PRO? I've tested dozens of times...
Can anyone else confirm this?

hutch1711
13th July 2005, 23:59
@hutch
What's your CCE version?
Are you sure you are using DVD Rebuilder PRO?
CCE 2.70.1.5 Trial.
Yes, I can assure you it is DVD Rebuilder Pro I am using.
What I find strange is I can revert back to version 0.2.0.1 (overwriting the files) and the problem doesn't exist! I'm baffled. :(

Rockas
14th July 2005, 00:03
I didn't have inserted that "check" on release 0.2.0.1 that's why is doesn't display the error.
Can you post your Rebuilder.Inf file?

hutch1711
14th July 2005, 00:46
I didn't have inserted that "check" on release 0.2.0.1 that's why is doesn't display the error.
Can you post your Rebuilder.Inf file?
Sorry Rockas, is that the Rebuilder Setup Infomation file in the D2VAVS folder that you're referring to?

Rockas
14th July 2005, 00:51
Yes... that's the one...

hutch1711
14th July 2005, 01:03
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Rockas
14th July 2005, 01:20
Ok... thanks... let me analyse this... I guess there will be a new release, later, today :)

feedback
14th July 2005, 03:15
Just tuned in....everything is still ok with Matrix Editor v.0.2.0.4 here using HC encoder.

I had not checked movie only mode before, but it is working fine for me. No problems.

Regards,:)

feedback
14th July 2005, 03:46
@hutch1711

Did you delete or move all vestiges of DVD Rebuilder Freeware from the same hard drive as the Rebuilder Matrix Editor and then try again with DVDR Pro.

Regards,:)

Rockas
14th July 2005, 12:34
@hutch1711
You're completly right... let's just say that Feedback's signature is one of the best "truths" in this world and that I should have read it carefully when I wrote some few lines of code :D

Anyway... I'll release a new corrected (again :() version today... let me just take the chance to make a few changes.

Thanks

hutch1711
15th July 2005, 01:57
Rockas, here's is the latest update on my side. I deleted and reinstalled DVD-Rebuilder Pro, CCE, and Matrix Editor version 0.2.0.4. I still receive the error message that I am using the free version of DVD-Rebuilder, but it now encodes! In other words, with the exception of the error message, it is working :)

Rockas
15th July 2005, 02:04
Sorry... I'm a little delayed 'cause I made some changes on the way the interface looks and I asked Archeo to run some tests on Windows 2000... we run into some problems... but I guess that tomorrow I'll release it :)
Don't worry I found "your" (mine :D) error and it is fixed already... just alittle more patience.

Rockas
17th July 2005, 14:36
Sorry... another delay. :)
Just for the record... I have one (another) hobby that is being a music teacher (guitar and drums) and I was busy the last couple of days with the "End of year Concert" on the School (I'm one of the co-founders :)) I teach - poor students lol.

Anyway... the above reason is not the only reason... it's just one of three :)

The second is that I've been asking Feedback and Archeo to make some pre-releases tests... well... seems like Archeo has been finding some problems when running the application on Windows 2000 (which I don't have :() so I'm still looking for the solution for them.

The third... thanks to Manono, I'll be able to update the default Matrices with some new ones that may really make the difference when Encoding DVDs (everyone interested on the Matrix Theme should really read this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=97193).... so... I'll need to update the provided matrices and descriptions to fill (specially) the beginners needs.

Believe me... the next release.. may make the difference (when talking about matrices).... specially when talking about the final quality you can achieve (without wasting weeks or months studying matrices or the changes they can make on the final results) keeping in mind that nothing is perfect (please read the posts submitted by Manono on the thread I pointed).

Now... I hope I'll be able to release a new version on the next couple of days, maybe less.

ps1. please forgive my English... I hope that you can all understand what I really want/need to say :D

ps2. I really want to make myself clear on this... Thanks Archeo, Feedback and Manono (If I win the next friday prize on the "Euro Millions" lottery... I will give you €1.000.000 each...just to pay the patience you're having with me and "bugs" :D)

archaeo
17th July 2005, 18:07
no problem :) been glad to help

Rockas
19th July 2005, 13:06
Version 0.2.0.5 (19th July 2005)

*Changed most of the default Matrices (you must press "restore defaul matrices" on setup dialog)
Thank to manono (doom9.org forum) , now you have 8 new Matrices. The descriptions have changed (not translated yet... I'll have to big SAPSTAR, Rockby and RebuMan... again :)) - Now they are easier to understand by those that are taking the first steps on "Matrices' World".
Note: Manono tried to make it simple but, as everything in life, nothing is as simple as it looks... and using Matrices is not a linear process... you really need to test and learn :)

*I've introduced new XP Style buttons... I hope this won't cause any errors... if it does... I'll think of something :)

*Modified the color styles... again... (I think the new colors will "fit" better on the three Windows XP default themes).

*Some minor bugfixes... as usual :)

TODO LIST

* Thanks to Neuron2 I hope to introduce on the next release a new feature... a secret one :)

* Thanks to jdobbs (and his infinite patience) and dragongodz (either) I hope that QuEnc will be finnaly enabled on the next release, too.

* Don't know when, yet, but I expect to enable the option to the use of FILTERS on the test encodes... suggestions about filters to be used are expected (as long as you don't suggest UnDot and Deen... I know them already :))


You can dowload it from HERE (http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=24)

feedback
19th July 2005, 20:46
It works like a charm!
I like that you can now encode, with the Matrix Editor, the same segment with several different matrices, and go back and forth between them to check for differences in quality Without having to close the viewer.exe( example WinDVD) after viewing each segment. ;)

Oh man, people new to matrices are Finally going to have at least some idea as to what Matrix to use in encoding with the "Built in Matrix Information dialog". This information should save at least a few thousand of the same questions.

Regards,:)

edit: typo

borgraf
19th July 2005, 22:21
I agree wholeheartedly with feedback, nice work Rockas & friends :)

I haven't used this much yet, but the VBR bitrate number reported for the segments doesn't seem to match what I have in the rebuilder.ecl ..? Probably because i'm doing something wrong :D

- It's reading right man, look!
- Well you're not reading it right!

Rockas
19th July 2005, 22:48
Good to know it's working fine... thanks 8)

@borgraf
Well... is it reading right, or not? :D

archaeo
19th July 2005, 23:29
It works like a charm!



second that...
nice work Rockas

hutch1711
20th July 2005, 04:26
Nice job! Working perfectly. :)

Zyphon
20th July 2005, 09:24
Thanks Rockas and great work, this is a neat little add-on for DVD-RB Pro, makes adding new matrices a breeze. :)

Keep up the good work. :D

borgraf
20th July 2005, 15:59
@borgraf
Well... is it reading right, or not? :Dwell.. yes and no :D

I run prepare and then use RB-Opt to tweak bitrates. Then I test the segments with diff. matrices with your nice prog. But it seems MatrixEditor isn't picking up on changes made after prepare? To test I changed a segment from 5116 to 3028 bps and this is what happens:

[edit2: problem found - image removed]

Can anyone verify this?

Edit: maybe it's a good idea to explain what the h... i'm talking about.
I save the new bitrate then launch MatrixEditor, but it still encodes using the original bitrate. I even rebooted and tested again. I can't even figure out where it gets the original number from.. So one of us is doing something strange :confused:

Rockas
21st July 2005, 00:29
Yes... I have found the problem :)
It doesn't happen with RB-Opt only... if you use the Rebuilder's "Preview" to blank or "slideshow" segments it happens too...

Anyway... I found the problem and I'll fix it on the next release.

edit: I don't know if I'll be able to fix it using RB-Opt... but I'll try :)

borgraf
21st July 2005, 13:20
that's good to read Rockas, thanks :)

MaDxCrEaM
21st July 2005, 20:06
This is a great tool, working fine for me so far. Keep it up!!

Rockas
21st July 2005, 21:43
Thanks to the user Abain I found a bug on RME that will make it fail when using it on an ILVU DVD... It will be fixed on the next release.

Axlemar
22nd July 2005, 05:59
I can't get the preview to work. I set all the paths in the program correctly, I am using nero showtime, and the new matrices show up in rebuilder. I then run the prepare phase with the newest rebuilder and the newest HC encoder path set and it selected as the encoder, since I couldn't get AutoQMatEnc to work either. After the prepare phase is complete I click on the preview button in the Matrix Editor, but nothing happens.

The movie I am trying it on doesn't have ILVU and if I press encode in rebuilder, HC encoder starts up and starts encoding like normal.

I tried Media player classic and it does the same thing. I am running Windows XP SP2.

Rockas
22nd July 2005, 12:40
Make sure you have the Rebuilder's installation path inserted correctly on Setup dialog not to the working path... if you point the path to Rebuilder's folder, RME will detect your "Working Path"

Don't forget you have to choose the segment you want to preview on the segments list.

feedback
23rd July 2005, 03:26
@Axlemar

Did you figure it out?
I have WinXP sp1 and have used the Matrix Editor with Nero ShowTime, PowerDVD, and WinDVD with no problems using HC encoder.
since I couldn't get AutoQMatEnc to work either.
Did AutoQMatEnc ever work with the Rockas Rebuilder Matrix Editor?!?

Regards,:)

Axlemar
23rd July 2005, 05:28
No, I never figured out how to use it. I setup HC encoder and the rest of rebuilder and run the prepare stage. I run the newest matrix editor and enter all the paths. I select a matrix and click the preview/Test button and nothing happens.

I don't see any segment list and I think I have configured rebuilder correctly since I have been using it since it came out.

feedback
23rd July 2005, 07:04
What version of DVD Rebuilder are you using?

Regards,:)

Axlemar
23rd July 2005, 08:09
The newest RC2

Rockas
23rd July 2005, 14:28
Can you post your Editor.INI file? it's on the Installation folder of RME.

Axlemar
23rd July 2005, 20:15
[Colors]
BackColor=16737808
TextColor=16777215
StripesColor=14306832
ButtonsColor=4210752
[Config]
InterfaceVersion=5
Language=English.lng
MatrixFolder=C:\Documents and Settings\Clone\Desktop\DVD-RBv100rc2pro\Matrix
RebuilderFolder=C:\Documents and Settings\Clone\Desktop\DVD-RBv100rc2pro
Player=C:\Documents and Settings\Clone\Desktop\DVD-RBv100rc2pro\mpc2kxp6484\mplayerc.exe

I am not using the installable version of rebuilder, I am using the zip.

Rockas
23rd July 2005, 23:05
Do you have "Output" Directory enabled on Rebuilder?

Axlemar
24th July 2005, 09:39
I didn't previously. I might try it again some other time and see if that was my problem.

Rockas
24th July 2005, 13:56
I'm sorry... that is my fault... I forgot about that option, so RME isn't prepared to deal with that situation... It expects that the "Output" directory is enabled... I'll fix that .

Rockas
25th July 2005, 12:50
changelog:

Version 0.2.0.6 (25th July 2005)

»»Activated QuEnc Mode - It's supposed to work on 2 passes and on 1 Pass VBR - my Thanks to jdobbs and dragongodz for their help on this.

»»Now, all the birates are updated after "Blanking and/or Slideshow" segments using the Rebuilder's "Preview/Edit" feature or Using RB-OPT to change the cells' Bitrates. NOTE: YOU CAN'T USE BOTH (AT THE SAME TIME) WITH THE CURRENT RB-OPT RELEASE - Robot1 will make RB-Opt compatible on the next release (v.0.18).

»»Corrected a bug that displayed strange error messages when dealing with ILVU titles.



You can dowload it from HERE (http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=24)

feedback
25th July 2005, 19:34
Yo!

Is something up with the www.dvdrebuilder.com website?

I can't get in and I have tried several times today on different compters?

Regards,:)

Rockas
25th July 2005, 20:09
It seems like a technical problem :(

Rockas
25th July 2005, 21:06
It's back online, now :)

djan
28th July 2005, 19:59
Do you intend to support ProCoder ?

Rockas
28th July 2005, 20:11
The question should be asked on the opposite way... will ProCoder support Matrices? :D

I will enable ProCoder mode but it will only be usefull when I insert the "Test Filters" feature or to make Encode tests to "see" how the final result will be after Rebuilder finishes its job.

djan
29th July 2005, 01:34
I will enable ProCoder mode but it will only be usefull when I insert the "Test Filters" feature or to make Encode tests to "see" how the final result will be after Rebuilder finishes its job.That was for that I wanted you already enable it :)