MT1389xx Based Player Information

[CruNcher]

@Zhnujm

but you know whats cool :)
i have a test case for Pandora now :D

@amango

it killed my Medion 7575

[amango]

Medion seems to have a new firmware for the MD 7457, but haven't released it yet.

Look here (http://www.dvdboard.de/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70794) (in German).

[The Rabbit]

Originally posted by CruNcher
Again news :)
the first MediaTek Based firmware with .srt subbtitle support has found it's way to the net based on BBK Standalones like the Atacom DV967,SILTEX DV967 and Peekton PK6003 http://forumdreamzone.free.fr/Dv967/967FR-1-0402%81inew%20software%20with%20subtiltle).bin just rename it to MTK.bin and the normal burn procedures for DE Player it's not known yet if it can be used on GE based player also and still their is the eprom problem i can't guarantee that it will work for your player and i take no responsibility for what you doing with it.

Great news. Has anyone tested if it support SMI format or VobSub subtitle (ifo/idx/sub)?

Thanks.

[Sharro]

Is there dates known for a similar firmware from Elta or Ascomtec ?

All the best

Sharro

[CruNcher]

it looks like the Firmware is for MT1389 FE player

What does this say to us: Never trust a Seller

[oddball]

I emailed Elta about this FE issue and they said that the Elat 8883 firmware was still being worked on.

[oddball]

All he said was an update was being worked on (Could be bluster of course).

[Zhnujm]

The Yamada 6600 now supports .srt subtitles with new firmware.
Subtitle file must use the same name as the .avi file, no support for multiple subtitle files.

[mactop]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
The Yamada 6600 now supports .srt subtitles with new firmware.
Subtitle file must use the same name as the .avi file, no support for multiple subtitle files.
Hi
Where can i read more about it ?

[Zhnujm]

Thats all i know, it was posted at www.dvdboard.de:
I wonder how long MediaTek needs to "research" the Xvid problems. :rolleyes:

Original geschrieben von Thomas3k
I put the first Firmware that support SRT subtitles on our server.
(Supports SRT subtitles, name of subtitle should be the same like movie
so file.srt and file.avi , will play automatically, use subtitle key to disable it.)
Fixes some small issues like onscreen Time/Zoom display,has latest codec available for the used MTK chipset.
XVID issues are still under research from MTK company, if they did solve this we will release another firmware immediately.
(For Information why XVID movies could make trouble please see:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=72899
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=67028

Download www.yamada.de/ftp/dvx6600b1.zip
Instructions: www.yamada.de/ftp/yamada_update_eng.pdf
Anleitung: www.yamada.de/ftp/yamada_update_ger.pdf

Cheers and have a nice weekend,

Thomas

[mactop]

Thank You !
And i wonder if there is anybody brave enough to update Elta 8883 with this FW :D Those players got the same chip version so it might work :confused: :)

[oddball]

I'm presuming Thomas works for Yamada? If so I find it funny that they should use my post about my workaround for removing packed bitstream from XviD as a reference. ;)

I cannot believe it's taking them so long to make a fix in the firmware. If I see a fix to playback XviD correctly appear before the summer I'll be very surprised. In fact I have a sneaky feeling Mediatek will dump making new firmwares for this chip and move onto the next.

[Zhnujm]

I dont think there will be new chips from Mediatek in the next time.
But everything seems to take a LOOONG time in this business. :rolleyes:

[Humus]

Well, tried to upgrade my Apex DVX-2102, which is clone of Yamada 6000 but with 1389DE inside - no go, player can't recognize disk (renaming bin file to MTK.BIN didn't help). I guess i will have to continue to reencode movies with subs till someone will try to edit firmware:)

[romravan]

Yesterday firmware for the reader Amstrad 3016DX has arrived..... but the readers with number of series 311,and some with seriale number 312, are all dead.......

Version 05.00.03.06
Sub-ver 00.00.00.01
8032 05.00.03.06
Servo 01.11.40.00
Risc 05.00.03.07
Dsp 03.03.00.99

without responsibility from part mine

[Zhnujm]

Do you know wich serials do work ?

[romravan]

There are four seriali numbers:
311=NO!
312= ?
401=yes
402=yes


without responsibility from part mine
sorry for my bad english......

[mactop]

Originally posted by Humus
Well, tried to upgrade my Apex DVX-2102, which is clone of Yamada 6000 but with 1389DE inside - no go, player can't recognize disk (renaming bin file to MTK.BIN didn't help). I guess i will have to continue to reencode movies with subs till someone will try to edit firmware:)
My elta 8883 accept that file from Yamada 6600 but im not brave enough to press "PLAY" key to update FW :rolleyes: :p

[romravan]

sorry....the amstrad 3016dx firmware upgrade it makes to recognize the subtitles.srt and divx with audio wma.......

[Hackerjac]

my scott 842 whit mtk 1389DE chip also accept the file after i renamed it to MTK.bin, but i'm not brave enough either to hit the play button yet

[Zhnujm]

@romravan:
Thanks, i think i wont try it with my elta, the serial begins with 310...


@others:
I dont think you will have a working player if you try to update your elta with the yamada firmware.
Even if the player will work - if the remote control or the buttons on the player are different you wont have a chance to flash it back or use it.
If the problem with some of the amstrad players are solved i will try the amstrad firmware, it is fully compatible with the elta (remote control,buttons)

[Zhnujm]

Theres now a second update for the amstrad, i think for the players that failed before.
So i tried this with my elta and it works.
Finally .srt subtitles, but very limited. Not centered, white text with no outline and if you use ff/rew they stop working.
And it seems the default video setting is NTSC.

[Zhnujm]

It seems this firmware supports the Pixel Aspect ratio settings you can set with Xvid !!
I was waiting for this so long. :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
It seems this firmware supports the Pixel Aspect ratio settings you can set with Xvid !!
I was waiting for this so long. :) Does this mean you can now manually alter the AR of any Mpeg4 video stream?

Cheers

[romravan]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
It seems this firmware supports the Pixel Aspect ratio settings you can set with Xvid !!
I was waiting for this so long. :)

but the xvid with GMC..?
yes or not?

[Zhnujm]

@SeeMoreDigital:
No free resizing, it just uses the Aspect Ratio Setting that you can change in Xvid. So if you encode anamorphic (crop only black bars) it works exactly like the original dvd.

@romravan:
No change, Xvid+GMC and Packet Bitstream with more than 1 bframe still do not work.

[oddball]

Dammit!

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
@SeeMoreDigital:
No free resizing, it just uses the Aspect Ratio Setting that you can change in Xvid. So if you encode anamorphic (crop only black bars) it works exactly like the original dvd. This is still excellent news. I was not expecting such an implementation to take place using the AVI container.

Have you tried generating anamorphic encodes using 3ivX and FFvfw? Or does anamorphic signalling only work when Xvid's 4CC is present?

I'm interested that AR adjustment is able to work with cropped encodes. Have you tested using 720x480/576 with a 2.35:1 image and with the mattes left in?

And... does the 16:9 TV output setting work correctly?

Sorry about all the questions!

Cheers

[Zhnujm]

I just stumbled over this feature so i think it needs some time to test if it really works correctly.

It seems that the AR setting also works with 720x576 without cropping the black bars. But now theres another problem with these files, they dont run smooth anymore. :confused:
The TV settings now works the same as with an anamorphic dvd, if set to 4:3 the picture height is reduced to get the right aspect ratio with 4:3 TVs, if set to 16:9 it is played as it is for 16:9 TVs.

Until now i only tried Xvid files, i dont have 3ivx or ffvfw files. I even dont know if these would work with my player.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi Zhnujm,

I'm in the process of encoding some short (250frame) anamorphic XviD, 3ivX and FFvfw encodes for you to test. If you could please?

I'll let you know when they are ready.

This is really great stuff... At last, you guys can see the encodes as they should be :D

Cheers

[Zhnujm]

Of course i can try them.
But there seems to be a major problem with this firmware or it is because i use it with my elta, all files above and including 720x480 are stuttering.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Well, why not give these PAL encodes a go. You never know they might work!

XviD tests (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/seemoredigital/XviD_Anamorphic_Signalling_Tests_PAL.zip)

3ivX tests (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/seemoredigital/3ivX_Anamorphic_Signalling_Tests_PAL.zip)

I'm having a bit of trouble with the FFvfw codec, as it keeps crashing during the second pass!

Cheers and good luck

[Hackerjac]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
Theres now a second update for the amstrad, i think for the players that failed before.
So i tried this with my elta and it works.
Finally .srt subtitles, but very limited. Not centered, white text with no outline and if you use ff/rew they stop working.
And it seems the default video setting is NTSC.



Any chance you have a link to that firmware, have been looking on www.amstrad.cc, but haven't been abel to find firmware to DX 3016, i know the elta firmware can be used on my scott so i would like to try out the amstrad too

[romravan]

http://www.solaricom.it/html/dx3016_2.html

[dalleballe]

I just bought a

Lumatron DVX1020 (Sweden)
----------------
Version = 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 00.00.02.02
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.10.20.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.33

[Zhnujm]

@SeeMoreDigital:
Both Xvid and 3ivx work fine, cropped and uncropped.
I also tried different custom settings (16:11-16:7), all settings are changing the output so i think it works good.

I hope its not only a "bug" and it gets implemented in all meditaek based players, especially my elta :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
@SeeMoreDigital:
Both Xvid and 3ivx work fine, cropped and uncropped.
I also tried different custom settings (16:11-16:7), all settings are changing the output so i think it works good. That's great news!

I'm especially glad the 3ivX encodes worked, as this leaves the door open for more than one codec manufacturer to implement anamorphic signalling. Did you have to change 3ivX's 4CC to XviD or did you leave it as 3iv2?

Cheers

[Zhnujm]

I also thought it would only work with xvid or divx fourcc so i made copies and changed the code but both version work, 3iv2 and xvid.

[Sharro]

Ascomtec has just released firmware for their MT1389DE based player.

They state that they are still working on firmware to support accentuated characters.

EDIT:

They should also work on bigger font because these ones look like miniature subtitles...

Accentuated characters show as space.

Looks like decoding became slower but I will have to further investigate.

END EDIT

As soon as I get home, I will install it and report.

All the best,


Sharro

[ropmip]

Has someone tried yamada or amstrad or ascomtec firmware with other players with the de? does it work? Should I risk it?

[plazz2000]

Has anyone tried the new Amstrad 3016dx firmware on an elta 8883?

If I try it, and my elta 8883 "dies", will I be able to use my old elta 8883 firmware upgrade CD to fix it? Or will it be broken forever?

[Zhnujm]

I tried the Ascomtec,Rimax and Amstrad firmware with my elta 8883.
I dont think the Yamada firmware will be compatible.
If its worth the risk ? Only if you dont fear the loss of your player.
And it depends on what you expect from these firmwares. If its subtitle support - i dont think that it is worth upgrading now, they do not not work good.
And things are getting even more complicated, now the updates (Ascomtec/Amstrad) are splitted for different version of the players.


@plazz2000:
Most likely its broken forever...

[ropmip]

I have a DENVER DVD158 which as I checked as exactly the same firmware version codes as the Elta 8883, so I should wait for a good upgrade from Elta to try it. Does your remote work with every firmware you tried?

[Zhnujm]

The remote did work with the updates i mentioned above, but that does not mean that it works with your player.
I tried also the Xoro 400pro firmware, the buttons on the remote are mixed up and it could not read cds/dvds anymore.
Makes it a bit useless...

[Hackerjac]

Originally posted by ropmip
I have a DENVER DVD158 which as I checked as exactly the same firmware version codes as the Elta 8883, so I should wait for a good upgrade from Elta to try it. Does your remote work with every firmware you tried?


If i have read correct on other forums about the Denver, then its based on the GE chip and not like the Elta that use the DE chip, so flashing it whit the elta firmware might/probbely kill it

[The Rabbit]

Originally posted by Zhnujm

@romravan:
No change, Xvid+GMC and Packet Bitstream with more than 1 bframe still do not work.

Have you tried those bitstreams with custom matrices? Have they fixed this bug?

Thanks.

[Zhnujm]

Custom Matrices seem to work now :)
I tried all that come with Xvid.

[mactop]

Zhnujm: can You tell me exactly which FW did you updated your Elta 8883 with ? Im waiting for Elta's move too long and i would like to try it (need srt support bad :rolleyes: ).
Is it possible to return to the old Elta FW after that ?

[Zhnujm]

Currently im using the Ascomtec firmware from here:
http://www.ascomtec.com/SP/SUBT_ENG.html

There are two versions, im using the update for version 1.0.0.6 as my player is one of the first (serial begins with 310), i do not know what happens if you choose the wrong one, most likely your player is dead.
The front buttons do not work with this update.

With the Amstrad firmware the buttons do work:
http://www.solaricom.it/html/dx3016_2.html

But its the same problem with choosing the right update file.
I think they are running out of flash memory and have to split the firmware for different models.

You can flash your player back afterwards.
But most important, subtitles do NOT work good, they just disapear after a while or if you use ff/rew. :rolleyes:

[mactop]

Originally posted by Zhnujm

But most important, subtitles do NOT work good, they just disapear after a while or if you use ff/rew. :rolleyes:
Thank You. I must wait than :scared:.
Its strange, that Elta 8883 was one of the first using MT 1389DE and now wee have to wait so long for new FW.
One more question. If i put few movies on one dvd,but each movie with its srt file in separate folder, will subtitles work then ?