MT1389xx Based Player Information

[die_leuchte]

Right, I only had problems with XVID and GMC.

[CruNcher]

Yep and if you read the first Page you would have seen that it can't playback 3 Warppoint GMC as XviD and Nero Digital are useing.

[begu]

Originally posted by die_leuchte
@begu:

afaik interlaced is only used when you have an interlaced source, so it must some kind of deinterlacer integratet in the encoding tools of xvid. But there'd be no difference in the result, only some horizontal lines cause of the deinterlacing.

In my tests xvid files with 1-bf played well on the 7457. But Doom9 wrote sth. about 2 & 3 b-frames played choppy on the Grand Prix (which is nearly the same than the 7457).
Yes, thanks for info.
I know that the source must be interlaced to make a proper use of the interlaced option. And I have some TV captures at full PAL resolution, which are indeed interlaced.

I know this, because I can encode the captures using xvid, and they play smooth trough my xcard on my TV. So indeed the Sigma's xcard can decode interlaced material, that was encoded using xvid.

But now for the real point:
- my xcard cannot decode interlaced material (no xvid nor ffvfw) when using b-frames.
-> so could it be that Mediatek chip can decode interlaced material, when using b-frames in xvid? And maybe multiple >1 too?

[monty0815]

There is a Firmwareupdate for the Medion 7457, but no changelog.
You can get it here. (http://www.medion.de/downloads/download.pl?id=1777&type=treiber&filename=md7457.exe&lang=de)

But it seems like it's trashed some players, so use at your own risk.

cheers, monty

[die_leuchte]

Player successfully flashed! I'm going to do some test during the day.

greetz

Admiral

[DMJ]

It seems the URL for the update doesn't work :(
Someone who can upload or link to other position.

DMJ

[die_leuchte]

Medion took the update from their page, cause it seems to have some failures.

I have the feeling that my Player for example has now even more speedup/slowdown problems then before.

[monty0815]

The update was taken down, because it was causing troubles.
I killed my Player with it, so I really can't recommend using it.

Cheers, monty

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by monty0815
The update was taken down, because it was causing troubles.
I killed my Player with it, so I really can't recommend using it.

Cheers, monty If you kill your Medion player using Medion firmware is it still covered under the warranty?

Cheers

[monty0815]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
If you kill your Medion player using Medion firmware is it still covered under the warranty?

Cheers

I actually killed my Gran Prix Player with the Medion Firmware ;)
so I don't think it's covered by warranty, but I'll still try to get my money back and grab an elta 8883, as those don't seem to have slowdown/speedup problems.

[amango]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
If you kill your Medion player using Medion firmware is it still covered under the warranty?

Cheers

Yes. (In Germany)

But you should wait one week or two, because Medion will release another firmware that should be compatible to all players.

[LightningFire]

H&B's new player DX-3220 (http://www.hb-direct.com/EN/P_26.html)can also handle all the Divx-pro features.
Don't have it, but info about it is here (http://p2prod.ifrance.com/p2prod/les_platines_divx_de_salon.htm) and here (http://forum.surdvd.com/viewtopic.php?t=21599&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0).
And H&B's products are generally available in the Netherlands, Belgium and France of course. This player is already on sale at this French E-Shop (http://www.rueducommerce.fr/hifi/showdetl.cfm?product_id=2338&pl=1713|2119|2338).
Does H&B makes some players itself or would this one also be a repackaged model of another brand?
Nice thing they are explicitly promising Subtitle and DTS support in a firmware update, it is printed in their product brochure.

And this French E-Shop (http://www.multe-pass.com/boutique/fiche_produit.cfm?ref=205982#) does delivery in the EU, EEC, not really sure.
They however have no stock at the moment.

Greetings.

[oddball]

RIMAX spec says it supports HDCD and DVD Audio! And they are selling it at a special price of £89.00 inc VAT!

http://www.rimax.net/products.asp?id=66
http://www.rmxdirect.co.uk/

[oddball]

BTW what is Elta 8883 2nd as mentioned at end of first posting? A slightly updated 8883 I presume. Any ideas what's different?

[monty0815]

Originally posted by oddball
BTW what is Elta 8883 2nd as mentioned at end of first posting? A slightly updated 8883 I presume. Any ideas what's different?

That would just be the second revision of the original firmware, which was announced by Elta.

[Zhnujm]

Heres the current firmware version for the rimax player, if you want to update the page:

Version = 05.00.01.06
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.06
8032 = 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

The elta is still a bit ahead.

[Zhnujm]

And the Ascomtec 3004:

Version = 05.00.01.06
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.01
8032 = 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

[die_leuchte]

And the Medion 7457

Version = 05.00.02.04
SUB-Ver = 4D.00.01.00
8032 = 05.00.02.04
Servo = 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.05
DSP = 03.03.00.35

[ronnylov]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
The elta 8883 does NOT support subtitles. :(


Which MT1389xx based player support subtitles? When I buy my next standalone player I want a good one that supports divx/xvid with subtitles.

[monty0815]

Originally posted by ronnylov
Which MT1389xx based player support subtitles? When I buy my next standalone player I want a good one that supports divx/xvid with subtitles.

Simple Answer: None.

[die_leuchte]

And when I'm going to buy a divx player, I want one that's doing the washing up as well. It'd play Ogg (Ogm), MP4, AAC, and it should be able to clean my room!

p.s. be happy when it plays at least the most of your divx right and stop dreaming of subtitle support.


just kiddin'

[monty0815]

some manufacturers got srt subs working on players (none of them based on the mediatek chips), so there is still hope, eventhough srt isn't my first choice when it comes to subtitles.

So the firmwares of the Ascomtec, Rimax and Elta Players are exchangeable(i.e. you can use the Ascomtec firm on the elta)?

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by monty0815
So the firmwares of the Ascomtec, Rimax and Elta Players are exchangeable(i.e. you can use the Ascomtec firm on the elta)?

Yes, at least it works for me, but the buttons on the player do not work anymore.
Thanks god you can start the update with the remote control :D
And the elta firmware seems to be the newest one.

[CruNcher]

thx Zhnjum and die_leuchte for contributing those firmware infos, but die_leuchte please check next time if they aren't allready in the list :)

[ronnylov]

Originally posted by die_leuchte
And when I'm going to buy a divx player, I want one that's doing the washing up as well. It'd play Ogg (Ogm), MP4, AAC, and it should be able to clean my room!

p.s. be happy when it plays at least the most of your divx right and stop dreaming of subtitle support.


just kiddin'

Here in Sweden we watch foreign movies with original sound and subtitles instead of the dubbed fake voices they use in many countries. Most of my divx have subtitles unless the original language is Swedish. Dubbed voices does not exist here other than on childrens movies. It does not matter that I can understand English, I still want the subtiles in Swedish just because I'm used to it. And I want to be able to switch the subtitles on or off (no matter that I always keep them on). Just don't want to reencode everything to get harcoded subtitles in the picture (takes time and decreases the quality). Then I can as well make them to DVD format if I must reencode it anyway.

[die_leuchte]

@ronnylov

some some genres I as well prefer subtitles instead of stupid dubbed voices and I'd be very very happy if the Mediatek 1389Ge/De Players would be able to play subs.

[Sharro]

Jambo Everybody,

I'm all mixed up...

Cruncher does any mediatek player support .sub subtitles ?

Reading the forum gives me the impression that just .srt is not supported.

All the best,


Sharro
Aka Xvid Tribalistic Fan

[monty0815]

Originally posted by Sharro
Jambo Everybody,

I'm all mixed up...

Cruncher does any mediatek player support .sub subtitles ?

Reading the forum gives me the impression that just .srt is not supported.

All the best,


Sharro
Aka Xvid Tribalistic Fan

No subtitle formats are supported at all, so we will just have to wait.

cheers

[oddball]

I reckon there will be subs support simply for the reason that there are so many players based on this chipset now and I can see some manufacturers being asked by their customers for subs support and the info filtering back to MT.

Well that's my logic anyhow.

[CruNcher]

An E-Mail send by an Umax Employe for the New Yamada DVX6600 DivX Player stated.

1.Vorbis-OGG audio format is under development.(Estimated end of March)

2.will support subtitles for DivX discs in the coming weeks.(Within the next few weeks)

so MediaTek is about to finish with the newest Firmware :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

So no MP4 container or AAC audio yet then?

Shame!

[oddball]

Don't give a crap about MP4 or AAC containers. More interested in soft subs, Ogg, OGM and possibly MKV at a later stage (Though may not support all file types within).

[Alxemi]

Just to tell that a firmware that will read subtitles has been anounced for the ascomtec 3004 in this spanish forum (http://www.indicedivx.com/foro/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&forumid=86&x=18&y=5)
It is suposed to appear before friday, but i think is a little soon. Anyway i will post here any news.

[Sharro]

Damn, just in time for my Ascomtec that will arrive 1st March.

This is my most wanted firmware update.

All the best,


Sharro

[Zhnujm]

@Alxemi:
Sorry, my spanish is not that good :), did Ascomtec promise that the firmware will support subtitles or is it just a rumour ?
Its the only thing im really missing.

[Alxemi]

did Ascomtec promise that the firmware will support subtitles or is it just a rumour ?

xD Seems an easy question but it is not.
Ascomtec didn´t say anything. There´s a guy in the forum who is very near to Ascomtec and it is like the Ascomtec-bridge. He has announced other things and firmware updates and everything was (more or less) like he said. But it is NOT official word.
It seems to be very clear that the firmware will support subtitles, what is not clear is when. He said before friday but that´s tomorrow and nowadays theres nothing out there. Anyway subtitles will come; at midnight, tomorrow or the next week, and they will be more than welcome, now even more welcome when seems that OGM is a lot further that it was a few weeks before (or lost forever sniff:()...

[oddball]

My Elta has just been shipped. Weeee! Yes subs would be nice. OGM would be even nicer. I can live without MKV for now though. I just want a player that handles the basics (If you can call them that).

Subs are needed though as I watch a lot of anime and the occasional foreign movie. Luckily most subs are hardcoded in anime fansubs. ;)

[Alxemi]

...but not good news. subtitle-firmware for asctomtec has been delayed without a new release date because off "bugs in it that must be fixed".
Not a big surprise for me. As i use to say "never give dates for things that doesn´t depend of you" :rolleyes:

[Alxemi]

"never give dates for things that doesn´t depend of you"

Sorry for the OT but, does this sentence make any sense in english?
anyway, you understood me? :D

[Hackerjac]

I got my scott 842 the other day and was suprised over it was build on the MTK 1389DE chip, since what i had found on the net all said it was the sigma 85xx, but well seems like scott have made a new build, so here is the inf of it so you can add it to the list in the start of this trent

Scott 842:

Version 05.00.02.02
Unter-Version 00.00.02.02
8032 05.00.02.02
Servo 01.10.20.00
Risc 05.00.02.02
DSP 03.03.00.23


Damn good player :)

[CruNcher]

New (GE) Player with the newest firmware appeared :)

Ansonic dixh-ht10 (Spain)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.06
SUB-VERSION = 64.47.00.02
8032 = 05.00.02.06
Servo = 02.06.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.06
DSP = 03.03.00.36


The Problems the firmware fixes are not known for sure but one thing has been changed for sure the Zoomfactor Display now dissapears after some seconds :)

[plazz2000]

Hopefully someone can test out the new firmware for Packed Bitstream compatability.

[Alxemi]

About packed bitstream: how can i know if a video is coded with it?
avicheck doesn´t help i think.

[clayts450]

DK Digital DVD-339 (launched in the UK 1st March) details see here (http://www.dkdivx.co.uk) and review section slowly being constructed at at Area 450 (http://www.area450.com/otherplayers/dkdvd339.htm) :

I only have a November trial unit from Germany, so the firmware may differ on the production models :

MT1389GE chipset

Firmware info (accessed by pressing SETUP, then 1379):

http://www.area450.com/otherplayers/otherplayerimages/dkdvd339/dvd339screenshots/setup1379.jpg

[CruNcher]

thx clayts for the update :)

[oddball]

How do I check the firmware version on my Elta? I tried the above keys and it does nothing.

[clayts450]

Try SETUP 6688, or SETUP 8888.

[Sharro]

Does anybody know the keys for Ascomtec 3004 ?

All the best,


Sharro

[Zhnujm]

49540 should work with the elta 8883 and Ascomtec 3004.

[Hackerjac]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
49540 should work with the elta 8883 and Ascomtec 3004.

also works on scott 842