MT1389xx Based Player Information

[CruNcher]

ChipsRev/Players
-----------------
DivX Certified MT1389DE = Elta 8883,Amstrad 3016dx,Irradio Dvx 103,Ascomtec DVD-3004,
Rimax NEW, Scott 842, Lenco DVD-37 Mpeg 4, Yamada DVX6600
DivX Certified MT1389EE =
DivX Certified MT1389FE = Peekton 6003,Atacom DV967
Not Certified PreChip/Buggy MT1389GE = Gran Prix,Lifetec 7457,Medion 7457,Nevir 2046,NeoDigits NeuNeo
Transcontinent TR-100,,Dual 800,Ansonic dixh-ht10,DK Digital DVD-339
DivX Certified MT1389SE =


Firmware:

Elta 8883 (Germany) 1st update
---------
Version = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.06 00.00.00.01
8032 = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.05.01.00 01.07.00.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.14 03.03.00.23

More Player Info (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66108)

Amstrad 3016dx (Italy)
--------------- 1st Update
VERSION = 05.00.01.06 05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.?? 00.00.01.06
8032 = 05.00.01.06 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.14 03.03.00.33

Irradio Dvx 103 (Italy)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06
DSP = 03.03.00.14

Gran Prix/Silva DVD 404-divx (Austria)
-----------------------------
Version = 05.00.00.09
Sub-Version = 54.03.00.02
8032 = 05.00.00.09
Servo = 02.04.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09
DSP = 03.03.00.08

More Player Info (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65648)

Lifetec 7457 (France)
---------------
Version = 05.00.00.09
Sub-Version = 4D.01.00.05
8032 = 05.00.00.09
Servo = 02.04.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09
DSP = 03.03.00.08


Medion 7457 (Germany,Denmark) 1st update
---------------
Version = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.04
Sub-Version = 4D.00.00.09 4D.00.01.00
8032 = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.04
Servo = 02.04.00.00 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.05
DSP = 03.03.00.08 03.03.00.35

More Player Info (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67066)

Dual 800 (Germany)
---------------
Version = 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 54.0D.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 07.02.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

Ascomtek DVD-3004 (Spain) 1st update
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.?? 05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.?? 00.00.01.01
8032 = ??.??.??.?? 05.00.01.06
Servo = ??.??.??.?? 01.05.01.00
RISC = ??.??.??.?? 05.00.02.02
DSP = ??.??.??.?? 03.03.00.23

More Player Info (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65884)

Ascomtek DVD-3006 (Spain) 1st update
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??

Nevir 2046 (Spain) 1st update
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.?? 54.07.00.01
8032 = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.02
Servo = 02.04.00.00 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.08 03.03.00.23

Addnew AN-DivX600 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Arlink MP-530 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Gowell Divx-888 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

BBK DV967 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Auvion SL-801K (Germany)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Transcontinent TR-100 (France) 1st update
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.01.07 05.00.02.06
SUB-VERSION = 54.00.00.07 54.09.00.03
8032 = 05.00.01.07 05.00.02.06
Servo = 02.06.00.00 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.06
DSP = 03.03.00.14 03.03.00.36

Keyplug 4810 (France)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Atacom DV967 (France)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Peekton 6003 (France)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.01.07
SUB-VERSION = 00.00.00.01
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = 01.06.00.00
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Technika T1000D (France)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = 54.08.00.02
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

Wilson DM1000D (France)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = 54.0A.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 07.02.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

LaFayette DV967 (US/UK ?)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Rimax NEW (UK) 1st update
---------------
Version = 05.00.01.06 05.00.01.06
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.06 00.00.01.06
8032 = 05.00.01.06 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.14 03.03.00.23

Yamada DVX6600 (Europe)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.03
SUB-VERSION = 0B.00.00.02
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

NeoDigits NeuNeo Mpeg4 DVD (US)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Scott 842
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = 00.00.02.02
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.10.20.00
Risc = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

Ansonic dixh-ht10 (Spain)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.06
SUB-VERSION = 64.47.00.02
8032 = 05.00.02.06
Servo = 02.06.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.06
DSP = 03.03.00.36

DK Digital DVD-339 (UK)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.04
SUB-VERSION = 44.01.00.03
8032 = 05.00.02.04
Servo = 02.06.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.05
DSP = 03.03.00.35

Lenco DVD-37 Mpeg 4 (Germany,Netherlands)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VER = 00.00.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.10.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

Tests

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Gran Prix/Silva DVD 404-divx


XviD Aloha Gran/Prix MediaTek 1389GE Chip Results

ASP features:

B-frames <- WORKS Perfect
Qpel <- WORKS Perfect
GMC 3 Warp Point <- Problems (slow playback see below)

Matrices:
H263 <- WORKS Perfect
MPEG <- WORKS Perfect
HVS <- WORKS Perfect

Upsampling (Bleeding Colors) <- No Problems

Test Videos:

b-frames(2).avi (640x272) 550 kbps <- WORKS Perfect
extreme1.avi (640x346 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) 2.7 Mbit CBR <- WORKS Perfect
extreme1.avi (640x346 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 Mp3 128 Abr) 2.7 Mbit CBR <- WORKS Perfect
level5.avi (640x346 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) ~1.5 Mbit VBR <- WORKS Perfect
fullresvbr.avi (720x304 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) ~1.5 Mbit VBR <- WORKS Perfect
rmdfullres.avi (704x576 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) 4.8 Mbit CBR <- WORKS Perfect

gmc-h263.avi (640x272) <- slideshow
gmc-qpel-hvs.avi (640x272) <- jerky all the way picture every 5seconds
gmc-qpel-h263.avi (640x272) <- better then the one before still slideshow

used Source:

640x272 = Pearl Harbour Test Sequence Low Motion-High Motion (DVD)
640x346 = Matrix Reloaded Trailer (Sorenson 3 Ultra Trailer Resized) (Matroska Techdemo)
720x304 = Pearl Harbour Test Sequence Low Motion-High Motion (DVD)
704x576 = Romeo Must Die Trailer (DVD)

DivX 3.11 Gran/Prix MediaTek 1389GE Chip Results

smart bitrate controll intro (DivX 3.11 SBC 640x272 Mp3 160 kbps CBR) 1 Mbit <- WORKS Perfect
shaggy.avi (DivX 3.11 SBC 576x416 Mp3 192 kbps ABR) 1.3 Mbit <- WORKS Perfect
lenya.avi (DivX 3.11 SBC 512x304) Mp3 192 kbps VBR) 2.7 Mbit <- WORKS Perfect


Problems:
Desync from the beginning with CBR Mp3 muxed Movies (very old rips). (fixed latest firmware)
Speedup/Slowdown problems most probably overheating or EMF problems occouring randomly. (GE based Player)
Scaling wrong (not really that noticeable). (fixed latest firmware)
Packed Bitstream with more then 1 B-frames doesn't work

at least the CBR Mp3 problem and the Scaling probs seem to be fixed with the newest firmware for DE
and GE based player.

if you have more infos about the Chip (Specifications) Firmware or any other Info about coming players or Tests
please don't wait to post them :) Please be aware that these Players are in somekind of a Beta Status and
when you think about buying one you'll most likely buy a thing wich could be outdated really fast.

The Elta 8883 DE is Assembled different then the GE based Players the MT Chip lies beneath the loader and on the
others it's a the right site, could be an indication that the GE Chip has little heat problems as allready assumed here
by some french folks
http://tototeseb.9online.fr/onatester/liteon7457.htm

Warning: Most GE Based Player die after a Firmware update so be carefull even if you get the original
(btw the firmware is not done by the sellers it's done by MediaTek) This could also be the reason why
GE based Player most times are cheaper then DE Based Player for example. To my knowledge the
GE based assembly cost the sellers arround 40 € and are sold @ arround 80 € and the DE based player 60 €
and are sold @ 120 € i have no real confirmation for this values yet.

Announced GE Firmware: Atacom DV967,Nevir 2046 (2nd), Medion 7457 (2nd)
Announced DE Firmware: Elta 8883 (2nd (OGG),Yamada DVX6600 (OGG,AVI subs)

GE Chip Bugs: Speedup/Slowdown @ playback random problem (seems to be fixed with latest firmware !!)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi CruNcher,

Thanks for posting such detailed info.

I can't remember anyone asking before but how good are these players at spinning RAW Mpeg1 and 2 encodes?

I gather, that a firmware upgrade is already available for the Elta 8883. Do you know if it's an official or unofficial upgrade?

Cheers

[monty0815]

Official enhancement list of firmware for elta 8883:

Modification:
• DVD/VCD/SVCD/CDDA/mp3/Divx4.x/5.x playback
• Divx3.11 support
• SRT/SSA/SMI divx subtitle support
• multi-language support(English,German,French,Italian,Spanish and
Russian)
• .jpeg,.jpe(for JPG file) and .divx(for divx file) extension
 > support 6) restore the value of setting(STOP+BWD+FWD) 7)OGG and WAV file playback

• WMA file playback
• Hot keys for setting DVD region code and
• 480P/576P/720P/1080i video output
• Auto DVD audio/subtitle selection
• Improved DivX 3.11 Codec
• PCM Audioformat in AVI-Files is supported


EDIT: Link removed! Don't update!

This article (http://www.golem.de/0312/28995.html) (german) also states ogg support.

Let's see if I can pluck up the courage to try this one on my Gran Prix.

@CruNcher: I haven't forgotten the DAR sample, I'll try it tomorrow

cu, monty

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hmm,

The firmware upgrade I found was not nearly as big as this. It comprised of an .doc file totalling 247KB and an MKT.BIN file totalling 1,015KB

Me thinks we have the makings of a couple of Moderators for this section of the forum..... About time too!

Cheers guys

[monty0815]

Just did a diff on the 2 firmware isos (the one for the 8882 and the other one for the 8883) and they are identical.
So I don't think it is the same as the the one which was released (unofficially?) two days ago.
Maybe the smaller one is far more hardware specific. Furthermore you had to call the UpdateCD MEDIATEK.

[SeeMoreDigital]

OK.

Although I have not, as yet, purchased one of these standalone players myself.

I would hate to think that some owners might be encouraged to upgrade their players with outdated/unofficial firmware!

Cheers

[monty0815]

Must be an error, it would probably destroy your player if you use the sigma update on a mediatek player.
According to another board elta has been informed of the mistake.

SO DON'T UPGRADE YOUR 8883!

[Zhnujm]

It was the firmware for the 8882, for the 8883 theres only the unoffical update.

[die_leuchte]

Official update will be back online tomorrow as golem wrote after talking with Elta Today!

[CruNcher]

DSP,8032,Servo and Risc updates come as it looks like directly from MediaTek.
the other enhancements are on a Sub-Level this is also indicated by the firmware marked as Sub-Version.
Firmware updates between the Gran Prix, Lifetec and the coming Medion should be the same (GE) only the Sub-Version will change (most likelie gui things) the question now are the decissions about what container support is made available also definable in these Sub-Version region (so Elta could change it with they Embedded Programmers "do they have such guys ??" or most likelie it is in the hands of MediaTek and ESS to integrate those capabilities on request ?
Problem now with the (GE) Chip could be that it was a Prototype Chip and that it's maybe not anymore working with (DE) updates so updating a (GE) chip based player with a (DE) Firmware could possibly lead to lose of functionality or "dissengaging" of the player if we dont get a statement on what the (GE) chip is "chips that getting to hot and fallen out of the production "DivX Certification" and sold for lower prices but still compatible with (DE) updates ?" i would not risk it maybe if i had a orginal firmware as backup.

Anyone has the Elta updated ? what does the Servo show in the updated firmware ?

[romravan]

Hallo,
I have an italian clone of Elta 8883, whose name is Amstrad 3016dx, it is different for active optical escape
firmaware is:
VERSION =05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION =00.00.01.06
8032 =05.00.01.06
RISC =05.00.01.06
DSP =03.03.00.14
REGION FREE

its price is 99 euro......

you thoughts that are upgradable with firmaware elta...?

sorry for my bad english.....

[CruNcher]

that sounds good but this is only still a theory the other problem is we dont know yet how then Special OEM things like the Optical output are handled so if they are defined in the SUB-Version you could possibly lose that capability of your Player after an Elta firmware update. You could try it but you risking your Player if you do, but when nobody tries it we never find out i assume from you firmware that this Amstrad is a DE based Player ? And its clear that i take no resposibility for any damages this might cause and be aware even if it works you could lose the Optical output and then without a base firmware you can't get it back. Could you please also post your Servo version ?

[Doom9]

@cruncher: actually these Aldi players are DivX certified according to DXn.

[romravan]

Sorry I was distracted..,in the Amstrad dx3016 with MT1389DE
0343-AWS

Servo =01.05.01.00

http://www.quellicheilpc.com/forum/files/foto_01_.jpg

[Zhnujm]

The actual Firmware for the elta is this:

Version = 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 00.00.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.07.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by romravan
Sorry I was distracted..,in the Amstrad dx3016 with MT1389DE
0343-AWS

Servo =01.05.01.00

http://www.quellicheilpc.com/forum/files/foto_01_.jpg AMSTRAD!!!

Wow, Alan Sugar strikes again.

This player should be in UK stores soon.

Cheers

[CruNcher]

Doom9 their are many DivX Players gone arround on Aldi not only MediaTek based ones and to my knowledge (press Release MediaTek) only those Chips that listed above got certified even if i myself don't hold much from DXNs Certification that let suspect that this Chip has some uknown problems.

thx Zhnujm for the update

[Doom9]

@cruncher: I asked the DXn specifically about my Gran Prix player ;)

[Zhnujm]

btw, the firmware update that is mentioned in the news on the main page with subtitle/... support is not for the 8883, its for the 8882.

[Sorrow]

Are there any sites that will ship to the US? Or that are in english. ;) I'd love to get my hands on one of these.

S.

[CruNcher]

Doom9 hmm then maybe you could also ask DXN where the differences between those chips are and why MediaTek doesn't mention that the GE also got Certified in their press Release ?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Given that all these new players carry a MediaTek chipset. Do any of you guys think/wonder/know if the firmware upgrade for say, the Elta will suit say, the Gran Prix or the Medion!

It would appear they all share the same remote control and maybe even the same internal operating system/GUI layout!

Is this a reasonable question, or am I just wishful thinking?


Cheers

[amango]

I heard that Mediatek-based players does have problems with XVID if you are using more then ONE B-frame. Is that true, or was that problem already solved?

[Doom9]

@amango: your source is incorrect. That was a problem with older chipsets and even then could be solved by using the packed bistream option.

[Charbax2]

I got a Medion player, here are the stuff info it says:


Medion (Denmark)
---------------
Version = 05.00.00.09
Sub-Version = 4D.00.00.09
8032 = 05.00.00.09
Servo = 02.04.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09
DSP = 03.03.00.08



I seriously got AV-synch problems. And freezes.. so maybe elta firmware upgrades will work here also..

[CruNcher]

Charbax2 and SeeMoreDigital
please read on the first pages carefully what i think and what i fear
to sumon it up i belive that it would be to much of a time effort for MT to maintain a unique firmware for every one of those chips "selers", so they most probably will work on any of those chips without problems but that's not confirmed yet and someone still needs to risk his player todo so.

[shredness]

Two questions:

1.Are any MediaTek based DVD/DivX players available in the US?

and (more importantly)

2.Do DVD/DivX Players reading multiple encoded avi's on DVD+/-R/W?

TIA!!

[Doom9]

2.Do DVD/DivX Players reading multiple encoded avi's on DVD+/-R/W?
Most definitely.

[scifiguy]

There doesn't seem to be a lot of crosstalk about the player. How many here actually have one? Where would you purchase one if you wanted one?

[oddball]

Nothing in the UK yet then?

[Doom9]

@scifiguy: Which player are you talking about? There are quite a few of us who own one of those Aldi players (me included), and elta has agreed to send a 8883 over for testing after my codec comparison.

[scifiguy]

I was thinking about the Elta 8883. The capabilities seem pretty impressive - although the market is getting swamped now with new boxes from other manufacturers.

[oddball]

Swamped everywhere else but the UK that is! :(

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by oddball
Swamped everywhere else but the UK that is! :( Too Bloody True Mate!

[CruNcher]

Old europe RuleZ :rolleyes:
sorry had to get that out but doesn't belong here really just be pationed it will come sooner or later to your wonderfull island too :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Well, I'm off to France and Germany for 10 days, starting from Dec28.

Maybe I might be able to pick up a player!

I wonder if they have 'sales' in euro land?

Cheers

[amango]

Originally posted by Doom9
@amango: your source is incorrect. That was a problem with older chipsets and even then could be solved by using the packed bistream option.

I have bought the new Medion-Player today. All my XVID encodings with 2 B-frames are stuttering almost the whole time. If I encode with "packed bitstream" there is no difference. Without B-Frames the videos are playing smooth. So it DOES have problems with B-frames. However it is a very nice player and I don't regret buying it, as it is much better than any ESS-based player I have seen yet.

[monty0815]

@amango
Are you sure you didn't use GMC too in those encodes?

[amango]

Of course! I never use GMC in my encodings. Only B-Frames, nothing more.

[CruNcher]

amango im about to test my Pearl Harbour encode stay tuned :)
no problems amango sorry but my encode works it uses 2 b-frames hvs matrix and qpel no problems.

[amango]

@cruncher

Which bitrate have you used? I usually have this problems with high-bitrate AVIs (2000 KBit and higher).

Which settings do you use for B-Frames? Can you list your whole settings for encoding this video you just finished?

I just encoded a 90 minutes-movie yesterday. The whole movie slows down after 5 minutes and playback becomes jerky. I just encoded a twenty-minute video out of the same movie, but without B-Frames. The playback is smooth all the time.

[Zhnujm]

I have had the same problems with xvid+bframes with my elta 8883 (even with only 1 bframe).
The firmware update fixed the problem.

[amango]

Ah! So I have to wait for Medion making a firmware update... :)

[CruNcher]

bitrate was ~550 kbps 3 h 640x272 without sound standard b-frame settings qpel and hvs matrix testing more samples and clips now

[Colyptic]

I see XviD 1.0 QPel is supported. As I believe QPel code changed alot in dev-api4, I'm just curious if dev-api3 QPel is supported by the elta?

[CruNcher]

The CBR unsync problem has been pinpointed
the problem is the sampling frequenzy of 44100 Hz for MP3 CBR files this
is causeing the proportional delay @ playback a sampling frequenzy of 48000 Hz works fine and shows no problems.

[plazz2000]

What audio formats does the elta 8883 support?

Is there a list of specifications or maybe a review of it somewhere?

I'd like to have more information before I buy one.

Is it true that XviD GMC (3-warppoint) and OGM will be supported in February?

EDIT: Never mind that final question. I read doom9's answer in another thread.

[CruNcher]

@plazz2000 look above @ the test this is the same for the elta player the Chips features are the same. Only the firmware is newer and fixes some bugs like the scaling problem and some other thinks like the servo
function their is still no mentioning what the GE Chip Series is missing or what the differences is between them but the GE Chip is mostly used for Low budget players in the price range of 80 € the DE chip is used in the Price Region of about 120 € but for me the 80 € player seemes the same besides the firmware so you can save alot of money but still it's not known if their ever will be updates for the GE based players nothing official yet.

[CruNcher]

Ok some updates on the front trying to update the medion 7457 with the new Nevir Firmware failed in 4 of 5 tries so be aware updating @ all is a risky thing for those players as it seems. Even some Nevir Players are dead now :( And yes my player is dead also :D

[samcook2003]

Hi,

I know it was stupid, but I updated my Medion 7457 with the Elta-Firmware. Result --> Before I shutdown the player he showed me the elta-label and the setup for this player, but after I shut him down,
he was dead.

Conclusion: Don't be as stupid as I was.

cu

Sam

[monty0815]

Haven`t dared to update my gran prix player yet (and probably won`t after what i`ve heard).
I just tried some sort of basic cooling with some heat paste and a small heatsink.
Still that didn`t solve the problems with the speed/slow downs.
Has anybody had any luck with any modification to the player?

Happy new year,
cheers, monty

[CruNcher]

jep i also wouldn't risk it for now at least try updateing my replaced MD 7457 again :)

[monty0815]

Too bad, seems most updates fail.
With my basic spanish I understood that most nevir Players which had their official update are dead now.

[m99]

What players with Mediatek 1389 is there out there now?

[SHODANXX]

I own the Medion Player too. But i got problems encoding my DivX/XviD.
While Video always works the player does not play the sound.
I use Lame as MP3 Encoder trying different bitrates but it did not work. Which Bitrate do i have to use?
And to the question mentioned above: the player is able to play several encoded avis from DVD. as well as it plays jpgs, mpgs and mp3s from DVD+-R(W).
Greets SHODANXX

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by m99
What players with Mediatek 1389 is there out there now? That may be difficult to say with 100% certainty now.

It would be nice to think that MediaTek would know, as I think it's a great shame that chipset manufacturers in general don't have greater control over second party firmware upgrades designed for use with their own manufactured chipsets!

Cheers

[bond]

what about reading the first post in this thread!

[SHODANXX]

Uh. I am sorry. Think i violated one of the most basic forum rules.
Please accept my apologies.

[m99]

Oops! I didn't notice that the first post was updated.

[oddball]

The RIMAX player has a Mediatek chipset. If you hex edit firmware 'A' MTK.BIN on their site it has "MT1369 RESETDISC UPGRADE". Can someone find out if that is inside the bin file for the 1389? or if there is a difference between the two chipsets? I read somewhere that the Ascomtech firmware could be used on the RIMAX also.

[Divido77]

Hi everyone! I´m from Spain and I have the dvd-mediatek Nevir 2046 and I update with the own firmware and now is perfect! no desincronizations but no yet capable for ogm in xvid but it eat most part of my divx and xvids and with high quality.I know that the grand prix and medion 7457 are suitables for the same firmware so if you are with security of return the dvd you can try,I know because in the forum in Spain the people now are not getting in trouble with the firmware for Nevir,in the beginning it was a problem cause a lot of dvds died but now with the sistem for burning(very important switch off before updating) they are living and going very well.And the Ascomtec 3004 is suitable for Elta 8883.The problem is that firmware for ascomtec is not very functional,it doesn´t repair the problems at all.
sorry for my english,I left my classes years ago and now is very poor...
Cheers

[CruNcher]

(very important switch off before updating)

hmm what do you mean by that what to switch off ? the Power ?

[DMJ]

I got myself a Medion 7457 just before Christmas :rolleyes:
And want to hear if anyone knows if it supports *srt subtitles (or any other subtitle format)
And if so, how to use?

DMJ.

[Divido77]

Hi,when I said switch off it was the power efectively,cause in the volatil memory stays some dates from the disc read before,switching off its cleared completly the memory and then is ready for the firmware.Think about it,with the file of the update, that we are changing all the firmware initial,1Mb most part of times and any date that is remaining can avoid the good working of the dvd.

[monty0815]

@DMJ subs aren't supported at the moment, an i doubt there will be a firmwareupgrade in the near future

@Divido77
Could you please give a link to the flashing instructions, as I find it kind of hard to navigate through the spanish forums

cheers

[die_leuchte]

Hi folks!

Be cautious with the fw from the nevir player. 4 of 5 people who tried to flash the Nevir firmware on the Medion 7457 destroyed their players with it! Seems like there different versions of the Medion 7457 on the market, so better wait for official updates. If you want to know more and you're able to read German try http://www.dvdboard.de/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64372

pls. read the complete thread. If you have problems with understanding ask me for a translation.

greetz

die_Leuchte

[CruNcher]

what die_Leuchte wrote is true at least for the Medion their 2 different
mainboard assemblys and we don't know yet how this interfers with the flashing process so still be carefull and even with the switch off power method (and if i remember correct i done this) it could be the last CD that your drive is gonna read :(. New findings also show that some CBR MP3 are not standard conformly done but it's nearly impossible to say what the problem is it could be a old "b0rked" Lame version that produced floating point CBR encodes so you can be almost sure that videos that are old "downloaded/selfmade" that play fine on the PC could have problems with sync on the Standalone, but it's not MediaTek's fault their new firmware solves it wich is indeed a nice feature.

Ahh and here is something funny :)
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/dafperso/photo/photo10.jpg

this is a new MediaTek Based Player from (France) the Peekton 6003

[die_leuchte]

Ok cause this is one thing realy pissing me off, I set the whole night in front of my MD 7457 to find out in which constellation the assynch problem occures and thats what I found out (maybe someone could tell me what that means):

(Used Gspot to compare the different files)

Divx with MP3 CBR 128k "Split = Yes" OpenDML Avi -> asynchronous
Divx with MP3 CBR 192k "Split = Yes" Avi -> synchronous
Divx with MP3 CBR 64k Mono "Split = Yes" Avi -> synchronous
Divx with MP3 CBR 128k "Split = No" -> synchronous
S-MPEG 4 v3 with MP3 128k "Split = Yes" -> synchronous
Divx with MP3 CBR 96k "Split = Yes" Avi -> synchronous
Divx with MP3 CBR 96k "Split = Yes" OpenDML Avi -> asynchronous

seems like the async problem only occures when "Split = Yes" and the file is OpenDML Avi.

It'd be great if there'd be anyone out there that could tell me what Gspot means with "Split = Yes" and OpenDML Avi & Avi (in the Stream Type and A/V interlace section).

greetz

die_Leuchte

[begu]

I did not find accurate information about over 2gb files for elta 8883, does it work?

I assume that the firmware (not the Mediatek chip) determines if the over 2gb file in udf format in DVD-R can be played, right?

I have an opportunity to buy the new Rimax player with Mediatek chipset (the better one?). But I did not find any info about it's ability to play over 2gb files. Also I did not find any info about it's new firmware or the ability to playback the subtitles (simple .srt etc.). Does anyone here know something bout the Rimax new player?

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by begu
I did not find accurate information about over 2gb files for elta 8883, does it work?


No. It stops playing after something around 1GB.
But it does play files <2GB fine.
AFAIK theres no player out that can play avi files >2GB, if you can find one please post, im also searching.

[Top_Cat]

How can I tell if my Elta 8883 has a GE Chip or a DE chip? I just ordered one from ebay so it would be good to find out when it arrives

Thanks

[bond]

open the player and look what is written on the chip ;)

[amango]

An update for GE-based chipsets will be available soon. Medion just announced an update for the MD-7457. It should be released in two weeks. Also Nevir announced an update.

[CruNcher]

@Top_Cat all Elta 8883 have the DE Chip

[begu]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
No. It stops playing after something around 1GB.
But it does play files <2GB fine.
AFAIK theres no player out that can play avi files >2GB, if you can find one please post, im also searching.

I don't quite follow. You must mean "It stops after something around 2GB" (Instead of 1GB??).

I find this odd. In the Kiss forums, there is some info about the UDF support. And I can play over 2 GB files using Sigma's Xcard (with UDF filesystem on DVD-R). And the xcard uses similar chip to the Kiss (of course the drivers and firmware must support over 2 GB). The 2.0 beta drivers did bring the support for over 2 GB files, so I assume the firmware must support it too. I must check in the Kiss forums, if the player can handle over 2 GB.

Is this the actual truth, there must be someone else requesting for firmware update (for standalone players) to support over 2 GB, hmmm?
Can anyone else confirm, that these Mediatek xx chip equipped players can't do over 2 GB ?? Well I guess that if Zhnujm says so, so it is, sad. :(

In the bottom line, I might just get the same quality using Qpel and multiple b-frames with 2 gb file than I'm getting now without Qpel and b-frames using 2.4 GB file. Thanks to Xvid team. :)

** EDIT **: for Zhnujm: here is thread from Kiss forums. Few persons calim that they can play over 2GB AVI. Generally the opininon is that it is not possible. So only way to find out is to buy the player ;)

[Doom9]

Some rather disturbing news regarding the GE chip: I asked DXn about that chip, and they haven't had any in their lab and so far have been unable to get any information about the chip from MediaTek. I'll keep you posted on any development on this issue.

[Top_Cat]

CruNcher: Thank you for the information. Is it worth updating the firmware on the 8883 I get the feeling that some people are having problems with it?

[Zhnujm]

@begu:
No, thats the funny thing, if the file is bigger than 2GB (i tried a near 4GB file) the playback stops much before the 2GB limit.
Cant say if it is exactly 1GB, but the same is true for my Yamada (ESS based).

I think the kiss players are a bit expensive only for testing ;), but before that, the Sigma Players were limited because they did not support UDF DVDs so maybe its now possible to play >2GB files with the UDF support.

And i would also ask at least twice if somebody says that a player can play files >2GB, most people make only a short test if the file is playable and nothing more :rolleyes:

But i think i can live with splitting the files in 2 or 3 parts until theres a player that supports it (and does not use Sigma or ESS).
If that ever happens ;)

[begu]

Odd indeed :/
Well if I calculte correctly:
2 GB = 1024 * 2 = 2048 MB -> You can encode ~2040 MB AVI ?
And this can be played back without problems.

The only positive side is, that with the advanced options (b-frames and Qpel) I may achieve same quality with 2gb limit than using bigger files without advanced options.

So, maybe the FW will be updated to support >2gb someday.

[Doom9]

alright, the GE chip mystery is solved but I'm afraid the news isn't too good:

The 1389GE is an early version of the certified chip. It is incomplete and buggy and was to be sold as a generic MPEG-4 chipset without DivX playback (and thus certification).

DXn is currently testing the chip but it appears to be identical to a chip they've tested before and that failed certification. So we can remove the DivX certified from that chip..

[bond]

normally i would say "who needs divx certification" but when it didnt even pass this outdated/limited certification its surely a little risk to use that chip :D

tough it would be interesting to know what exactly were the reasons why it didnt pass

[SeeMoreDigital]

Agreed!

It must be a pretty poor chipset.

Cheers

[CruNcher]

hehe finaly that is solved i knew it before because that thing is swapping the markets @ very low prices but the only problem with that chip that i expirenced so far is a speedup/slowdown problem :) but you can save like 40 € for such a GE player and its virtualy the same from the feature set.

@Top_Cat some sync isues are solved with bad encded MP3s and scaleing is done better, also srt subbtitles are supported and some other things watch the changelog on elta.de

thx Doom9 for clearing this hope MediaTek isn't mad now ;)

Doom9 could we get information on wich tests in the Certification process it failed ?

[monty0815]

Can anybody confirm, that the Elta Players don`t have those Speedup/slowdown problems, because I can remember somebody saying that he has been experiencing those on his Elta8883?

Btw I tried modding my Gran Prix with a cooler, but didn`t help against those Problems, eventhough I thought it helped at first, but then yesterday I was proven wrong 3 times during a movie.

cheers, monty

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by CruNcher
@Top_Cat some sync isues are solved with bad encded MP3s and scaleing is done better, also srt subbtitles are supported and some other things watch the changelog on elta.de

The elta 8883 does NOT support subtitles. :(

@monty0815:
I dont have problems with slowdown/speedup with the elta but i think that means nothing, maybe my files are different.
Best thing would be if somebody can upload a file that has this problems for sure so somebody can try it with the elta.

[CruNcher]

Zhnujm if it would be that easy the problem we talking about happens randomly never @ the same place and if some people say it does they are wrong this problem is a technical problem also it hasn't anything todo with the CD thats being used it's just happening after some time. I tried for example allways with my Equilibrium Encode and it happened the 2nd time at another place then at the 1st and also sometimes you can watch a whole movie without it but other times not i mean i accept it as it is for 40 € less ;) but if it would happen more often i would definatly buy a DE based Player :P, thats not the case so i can live with it :)

[Doom9]

Doom9 could we get information on wich tests in the Certification process it failed ?
I very much doubt that. I've had a long discussion about the certification process, a "super" certification (including GMC and QPel) and DXn's bottom line was that they encourage manufacturers to include those features but right not cannot afford to piss off all their OEMs who are incapable of passing such a certification. They'll eventually add new features when tbe next generation of chipsets roll out (hopefully all supporting the entire MPEG-4 ASP featureset), but until then, they encourage independent testers to test for such features and use a scale that reflects the performance of a player not only w.r.t. their certification requirements, but go beyond that. For instance, a player that can only handle 1 CD DivX3 rips flawlessly would not get a very good rating in the DivX3 department.. stuff like that.

I have asked whether they'd actually publish an internal evaluation like that and the answer was a clear no, thus I deduce that they have no interest in pointing out specific flaws / problems in a player / chipset and risk pissing off their partners.

[CruNcher]

i understand thx anyway :)

[plazz2000]

I have two 2MB test clips here that I would like someone with a Mediatek 1389xx player to try out.

Both are 18 second clips encoded with XviD 1.0 Beta 3. Both use QpeL, but one has 1 consecutive B frame, the other has 2.

The video with 2 Bframes is jerky, it's not exactly unwatchable, but you can see that the playback (especially on camera pans and zooms) is not as smooth as the other clip.

I have tried encoding the same clip with 2Bframes using Koepi's old 24/06/03 devapi3 build, and it plays perfect. So the problem is only with the new XviD 1.0 Beta 3, when 2 Bframes are used.

I'm using an elta 8883, with the firmware upgrade.

If anyone would be kind enough to try these out on their player, please PM me. Thanks.

[Zhnujm]

Maybe "packet bitstream" was enabled ?
Its on by default in the new Xvid beta 3, before it was disabled.
And it causes jerkiness on Mediatek based players.

[plazz2000]

Thanks, I didn't know that. I'll encode another test clip soon and try it out.

[DMJ]

To amango !!

Where do you get the info about an upcomming update for the Medion player?

I have been looking at www.medion.de without luck (it might come down to the fact that my german is very very poor)

DMJ.

[die_leuchte]

There's no official statement from Medion at the moment. The info about the upcoming FW update came via e-Mail from Medion's support.

[DMJ]

die_leuchte

Thx for info :)

DMJ

[begu]

One question about these players. i did try to find some info about interlaced video support for these Mediatek chip players.
But I did not find accurate info.

So if I enable the interlaced encoding option in xvid, will the playback be successful? And when b-frames (1 to 3) are used, how it works then? Anyone..?

[die_leuchte]

@begu:

afaik interlaced is only used when you have an interlaced source, so it must some kind of deinterlacer integratet in the encoding tools of xvid. But there'd be no difference in the result, only some horizontal lines cause of the deinterlacing.

In my tests xvid files with 1-bf played well on the 7457. But Doom9 wrote sth. about 2 & 3 b-frames played choppy on the Grand Prix (which is nearly the same than the 7457).

[Doom9]

In my tests xvid files with 1-bf played well on the 7457. But Doom9 wrote sth. about 2 & 3 b-frames played choppy on the Grand Prix (which is nearly the same than the 7457).That is incorrect. I never tested the gran prix player but if you check this very forum you'll find reports saying multiple b-frames is no problem on MTK players. I tested a sigma based player.

[die_leuchte]

I'm sorry Doom9. thought I read sth. from you about b-frames.

The only thing I had problems with was gmc in xvid files with my Medion.



quote "..But I do have the MediaTek based Gran Prix.. ..and I'm going to run a quick test on my Gran Prix soon.."

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66108&perpage=20&highlight=Gran Prix&pagenumber=2

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by begu
One question about these players. i did try to find some info about interlaced video support for these Mediatek chip players.
But I did not find accurate info.

So if I enable the interlaced encoding option in xvid, will the playback be successful? And when b-frames (1 to 3) are used, how it works then? Anyone..?

Interlaced playback works fine on my elta 8883, unlike the other (ESS, Sigma) players.
Maybe you have to change the field order, in divx theres a button for that (top field first), in xvid you need some avisynth tweaking.
bframes >1 also work fine, as long as you have disabled "packed bitstream".

[CruNcher]

die_leuchte hmm their are no stuck problems with the Medion and 2 bf that's only because many people mix to much up and do alot of false reports the problem you are refering too is the packed bitstream problem.

[die_leuchte]

Right, I only had problems with XVID and GMC.

[CruNcher]

Yep and if you read the first Page you would have seen that it can't playback 3 Warppoint GMC as XviD and Nero Digital are useing.

[begu]

Originally posted by die_leuchte
@begu:

afaik interlaced is only used when you have an interlaced source, so it must some kind of deinterlacer integratet in the encoding tools of xvid. But there'd be no difference in the result, only some horizontal lines cause of the deinterlacing.

In my tests xvid files with 1-bf played well on the 7457. But Doom9 wrote sth. about 2 & 3 b-frames played choppy on the Grand Prix (which is nearly the same than the 7457).
Yes, thanks for info.
I know that the source must be interlaced to make a proper use of the interlaced option. And I have some TV captures at full PAL resolution, which are indeed interlaced.

I know this, because I can encode the captures using xvid, and they play smooth trough my xcard on my TV. So indeed the Sigma's xcard can decode interlaced material, that was encoded using xvid.

But now for the real point:
- my xcard cannot decode interlaced material (no xvid nor ffvfw) when using b-frames.
-> so could it be that Mediatek chip can decode interlaced material, when using b-frames in xvid? And maybe multiple >1 too?

[monty0815]

There is a Firmwareupdate for the Medion 7457, but no changelog.
You can get it here. (http://www.medion.de/downloads/download.pl?id=1777&type=treiber&filename=md7457.exe&lang=de)

But it seems like it's trashed some players, so use at your own risk.

cheers, monty

[die_leuchte]

Player successfully flashed! I'm going to do some test during the day.

greetz

Admiral

[DMJ]

It seems the URL for the update doesn't work :(
Someone who can upload or link to other position.

DMJ

[die_leuchte]

Medion took the update from their page, cause it seems to have some failures.

I have the feeling that my Player for example has now even more speedup/slowdown problems then before.

[monty0815]

The update was taken down, because it was causing troubles.
I killed my Player with it, so I really can't recommend using it.

Cheers, monty

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by monty0815
The update was taken down, because it was causing troubles.
I killed my Player with it, so I really can't recommend using it.

Cheers, monty If you kill your Medion player using Medion firmware is it still covered under the warranty?

Cheers

[monty0815]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
If you kill your Medion player using Medion firmware is it still covered under the warranty?

Cheers

I actually killed my Gran Prix Player with the Medion Firmware ;)
so I don't think it's covered by warranty, but I'll still try to get my money back and grab an elta 8883, as those don't seem to have slowdown/speedup problems.

[amango]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
If you kill your Medion player using Medion firmware is it still covered under the warranty?

Cheers

Yes. (In Germany)

But you should wait one week or two, because Medion will release another firmware that should be compatible to all players.

[LightningFire]

H&B's new player DX-3220 (http://www.hb-direct.com/EN/P_26.html)can also handle all the Divx-pro features.
Don't have it, but info about it is here (http://p2prod.ifrance.com/p2prod/les_platines_divx_de_salon.htm) and here (http://forum.surdvd.com/viewtopic.php?t=21599&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0).
And H&B's products are generally available in the Netherlands, Belgium and France of course. This player is already on sale at this French E-Shop (http://www.rueducommerce.fr/hifi/showdetl.cfm?product_id=2338&pl=1713|2119|2338).
Does H&B makes some players itself or would this one also be a repackaged model of another brand?
Nice thing they are explicitly promising Subtitle and DTS support in a firmware update, it is printed in their product brochure.

And this French E-Shop (http://www.multe-pass.com/boutique/fiche_produit.cfm?ref=205982#) does delivery in the EU, EEC, not really sure.
They however have no stock at the moment.

Greetings.

[oddball]

RIMAX spec says it supports HDCD and DVD Audio! And they are selling it at a special price of £89.00 inc VAT!

http://www.rimax.net/products.asp?id=66
http://www.rmxdirect.co.uk/

[oddball]

BTW what is Elta 8883 2nd as mentioned at end of first posting? A slightly updated 8883 I presume. Any ideas what's different?

[monty0815]

Originally posted by oddball
BTW what is Elta 8883 2nd as mentioned at end of first posting? A slightly updated 8883 I presume. Any ideas what's different?

That would just be the second revision of the original firmware, which was announced by Elta.

[Zhnujm]

Heres the current firmware version for the rimax player, if you want to update the page:

Version = 05.00.01.06
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.06
8032 = 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

The elta is still a bit ahead.

[Zhnujm]

And the Ascomtec 3004:

Version = 05.00.01.06
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.01
8032 = 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

[die_leuchte]

And the Medion 7457

Version = 05.00.02.04
SUB-Ver = 4D.00.01.00
8032 = 05.00.02.04
Servo = 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.05
DSP = 03.03.00.35

[ronnylov]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
The elta 8883 does NOT support subtitles. :(


Which MT1389xx based player support subtitles? When I buy my next standalone player I want a good one that supports divx/xvid with subtitles.

[monty0815]

Originally posted by ronnylov
Which MT1389xx based player support subtitles? When I buy my next standalone player I want a good one that supports divx/xvid with subtitles.

Simple Answer: None.

[die_leuchte]

And when I'm going to buy a divx player, I want one that's doing the washing up as well. It'd play Ogg (Ogm), MP4, AAC, and it should be able to clean my room!

p.s. be happy when it plays at least the most of your divx right and stop dreaming of subtitle support.


just kiddin'

[monty0815]

some manufacturers got srt subs working on players (none of them based on the mediatek chips), so there is still hope, eventhough srt isn't my first choice when it comes to subtitles.

So the firmwares of the Ascomtec, Rimax and Elta Players are exchangeable(i.e. you can use the Ascomtec firm on the elta)?

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by monty0815
So the firmwares of the Ascomtec, Rimax and Elta Players are exchangeable(i.e. you can use the Ascomtec firm on the elta)?

Yes, at least it works for me, but the buttons on the player do not work anymore.
Thanks god you can start the update with the remote control :D
And the elta firmware seems to be the newest one.

[CruNcher]

thx Zhnjum and die_leuchte for contributing those firmware infos, but die_leuchte please check next time if they aren't allready in the list :)

[ronnylov]

Originally posted by die_leuchte
And when I'm going to buy a divx player, I want one that's doing the washing up as well. It'd play Ogg (Ogm), MP4, AAC, and it should be able to clean my room!

p.s. be happy when it plays at least the most of your divx right and stop dreaming of subtitle support.


just kiddin'

Here in Sweden we watch foreign movies with original sound and subtitles instead of the dubbed fake voices they use in many countries. Most of my divx have subtitles unless the original language is Swedish. Dubbed voices does not exist here other than on childrens movies. It does not matter that I can understand English, I still want the subtiles in Swedish just because I'm used to it. And I want to be able to switch the subtitles on or off (no matter that I always keep them on). Just don't want to reencode everything to get harcoded subtitles in the picture (takes time and decreases the quality). Then I can as well make them to DVD format if I must reencode it anyway.

[die_leuchte]

@ronnylov

some some genres I as well prefer subtitles instead of stupid dubbed voices and I'd be very very happy if the Mediatek 1389Ge/De Players would be able to play subs.

[Sharro]

Jambo Everybody,

I'm all mixed up...

Cruncher does any mediatek player support .sub subtitles ?

Reading the forum gives me the impression that just .srt is not supported.

All the best,


Sharro
Aka Xvid Tribalistic Fan

[monty0815]

Originally posted by Sharro
Jambo Everybody,

I'm all mixed up...

Cruncher does any mediatek player support .sub subtitles ?

Reading the forum gives me the impression that just .srt is not supported.

All the best,


Sharro
Aka Xvid Tribalistic Fan

No subtitle formats are supported at all, so we will just have to wait.

cheers

[oddball]

I reckon there will be subs support simply for the reason that there are so many players based on this chipset now and I can see some manufacturers being asked by their customers for subs support and the info filtering back to MT.

Well that's my logic anyhow.

[CruNcher]

An E-Mail send by an Umax Employe for the New Yamada DVX6600 DivX Player stated.

1.Vorbis-OGG audio format is under development.(Estimated end of March)

2.will support subtitles for DivX discs in the coming weeks.(Within the next few weeks)

so MediaTek is about to finish with the newest Firmware :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

So no MP4 container or AAC audio yet then?

Shame!

[oddball]

Don't give a crap about MP4 or AAC containers. More interested in soft subs, Ogg, OGM and possibly MKV at a later stage (Though may not support all file types within).

[Alxemi]

Just to tell that a firmware that will read subtitles has been anounced for the ascomtec 3004 in this spanish forum (http://www.indicedivx.com/foro/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=&forumid=86&x=18&y=5)
It is suposed to appear before friday, but i think is a little soon. Anyway i will post here any news.

[Sharro]

Damn, just in time for my Ascomtec that will arrive 1st March.

This is my most wanted firmware update.

All the best,


Sharro

[Zhnujm]

@Alxemi:
Sorry, my spanish is not that good :), did Ascomtec promise that the firmware will support subtitles or is it just a rumour ?
Its the only thing im really missing.

[Alxemi]

did Ascomtec promise that the firmware will support subtitles or is it just a rumour ?

xD Seems an easy question but it is not.
Ascomtec didn´t say anything. There´s a guy in the forum who is very near to Ascomtec and it is like the Ascomtec-bridge. He has announced other things and firmware updates and everything was (more or less) like he said. But it is NOT official word.
It seems to be very clear that the firmware will support subtitles, what is not clear is when. He said before friday but that´s tomorrow and nowadays theres nothing out there. Anyway subtitles will come; at midnight, tomorrow or the next week, and they will be more than welcome, now even more welcome when seems that OGM is a lot further that it was a few weeks before (or lost forever sniff:()...

[oddball]

My Elta has just been shipped. Weeee! Yes subs would be nice. OGM would be even nicer. I can live without MKV for now though. I just want a player that handles the basics (If you can call them that).

Subs are needed though as I watch a lot of anime and the occasional foreign movie. Luckily most subs are hardcoded in anime fansubs. ;)

[Alxemi]

...but not good news. subtitle-firmware for asctomtec has been delayed without a new release date because off "bugs in it that must be fixed".
Not a big surprise for me. As i use to say "never give dates for things that doesn´t depend of you" :rolleyes:

[Alxemi]

"never give dates for things that doesn´t depend of you"

Sorry for the OT but, does this sentence make any sense in english?
anyway, you understood me? :D

[Hackerjac]

I got my scott 842 the other day and was suprised over it was build on the MTK 1389DE chip, since what i had found on the net all said it was the sigma 85xx, but well seems like scott have made a new build, so here is the inf of it so you can add it to the list in the start of this trent

Scott 842:

Version 05.00.02.02
Unter-Version 00.00.02.02
8032 05.00.02.02
Servo 01.10.20.00
Risc 05.00.02.02
DSP 03.03.00.23


Damn good player :)

[CruNcher]

New (GE) Player with the newest firmware appeared :)

Ansonic dixh-ht10 (Spain)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.06
SUB-VERSION = 64.47.00.02
8032 = 05.00.02.06
Servo = 02.06.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.06
DSP = 03.03.00.36


The Problems the firmware fixes are not known for sure but one thing has been changed for sure the Zoomfactor Display now dissapears after some seconds :)

[plazz2000]

Hopefully someone can test out the new firmware for Packed Bitstream compatability.

[Alxemi]

About packed bitstream: how can i know if a video is coded with it?
avicheck doesn´t help i think.

[clayts450]

DK Digital DVD-339 (launched in the UK 1st March) details see here (http://www.dkdivx.co.uk) and review section slowly being constructed at at Area 450 (http://www.area450.com/otherplayers/dkdvd339.htm) :

I only have a November trial unit from Germany, so the firmware may differ on the production models :

MT1389GE chipset

Firmware info (accessed by pressing SETUP, then 1379):

http://www.area450.com/otherplayers/otherplayerimages/dkdvd339/dvd339screenshots/setup1379.jpg

[CruNcher]

thx clayts for the update :)

[oddball]

How do I check the firmware version on my Elta? I tried the above keys and it does nothing.

[clayts450]

Try SETUP 6688, or SETUP 8888.

[Sharro]

Does anybody know the keys for Ascomtec 3004 ?

All the best,


Sharro

[Zhnujm]

49540 should work with the elta 8883 and Ascomtec 3004.

[Hackerjac]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
49540 should work with the elta 8883 and Ascomtec 3004.

also works on scott 842

[oddball]

I'm really looking forward to the next firmware version. HURRY UP MEDIATEK (and Elta)!

[Sharro]

Hurry....hurry.......... give me .srt support and I will be a great promoter....

[Sharro]

Is there anyway to get (EDIT: Mt1389DE END EDIT) based players to play mp3 files on dvd ?

All the best,

Sharro

[Zhnujm]

Of course, just burn them on dvd and play them ;)
Does it not work for you ?
I dont have problems so far with that, but it shows only the first 1000 files i think.

[monty0815]

Originally posted by Sharro
Is there anyway to get Mt1379DE based players to play mp3 files on dvd ?


Do you really mean 1379DE (which exists, but isn't an mpeg4-chip)?
I assume 1389DE is what you mean, so there should be no problems with mp3 on dvd.

cheers

[Novakane]

Hi,
My parents bought a Lenco (http://www.lenco.de) DVD-37 MPEG 4 (http://www.lenco-audiovideo.com/lib/product_detail.inc.php?arti=DVD-37 MPEG4&language=en) player. Chipset is MT1389DE. Firmware info (setup & 1379):
version 05.00.02.02
sub-ver 00.00.00.01
8032 05.00.02.02
Servo 01.10.00.00
Risc 05.00.02.02
DSP 03.03.00.23

[CruNcher]

thx for the info updated

[Guest]

The latest firmware for MT1383GE players
http://www.tecnilog-service.com/soft%20dvix/download/MTT1389.zip

I upgraded my Standard SR3550 (sold in Interdiscount shops Switzerland) with this version and it fixed a number of things compare ro original, Nevir and Medion firmwares.

In pasticular my player had weird sound problem with either Nevir or Mediatek firmware all my avi files with MP3 encoded sound tracks ( which the most often case anyway) - really nasty echo espesially with a spearch paterns.

This one fixed that.

Now my FW level is like this:

VERSION = 05.00.02.06
SUB-VERSION = 64.47.00.02
8032 = 05.00.02.06
Servo = 02.06.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.06
DSP = 03.03.00.36

Still have overheating problem after a while (3-4 hours of usage) the image starts freezing and have to do cold reset of the playrer to restore its functionality.

[clayts450]

I'd previously posted prototype firmware info for the DK DVD-339. The production models, as suspected, use a newer firmware version :

http://www.area450.com/otherplayers/otherplayerimages/dkdvd339/dvd339screenshots/production339setup1379.jpg

[langman]

I got this for a week, updated the firmware to Rimax latest version.
SETUP + 49540
Version 05.00.01.06
Sub-Version 05.00.01.06
8032 05.00.01.06
Servo 01.05.01.00
RISC 05.00.02.02
DSP 03.03.00.23

Nice player, Someone post a thread asking about the UK (220V)plug fitted. The people advised him to buy a step-up transformer from 110V - 220V. I noticed on the back panel that it can handle any AC voltage from 100- 250 Volt 50/60 Hz. So it should be OK for the USA. Just change the plug.

What I would like in a future update is a "RANDOM" function for audio CD's also with MP3's. The reset button on the remote is too easy to press, a combination of 2 buttons will be great. Remote control distance very limiting.
:angry:

[CruNcher]

@Guest

see my first post (previous page) ;)

@clayts450

changed it :)

@langman

it's allready listed, do you remember the non updated firmware rev ? :)

[Reptile-X]

Hmmm, you guys get more info than on Yamada DVX-6600

[Setup] and than "Prefence page" (last icon) after that hit 1369
and this is what i get nothing more :confused:

Version 05.00.02.03
SubVer 0B.00.00.02

I did try other codes i saw here in every menu but those are not working for Yamada DVX-6600.
Anyone knows the code for other information?

[CruNcher]

huh strange maybe the firmware was more adjusted to their needs ? could you post some pictures of the interface ? and what Chip does it use the MT1389GE or MT1389DE ? thx for the info :)

[Reptile-X]

I think it is a 1389DE, I can’t unscrew and open the player to see the chip, it has a warranty sticker on it :(

But for pictures from the player interface you can take a look here (http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/875933) on my post about Yamada DVX-6600 (http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/875933)

[langman]

@ CruNcher

The original as received firmware is as follows.
Version 05.00.01.06
Sub-Version 00.00.01.06
8032 05.00.01.06
Servo 01.05.01.00
RISC 05.00.01.06
DSP 03.03.00.14

It look like if the firmware menu page is access with 49540 its a DE based chip and with 1369 its the GE? Maybe I am wrong.

[CruNcher]

@langman

are you sure that only DSP and RISC where updated that's somehow unlikely that even not the SUB-Version changed hmmm i changed it but im not so sure that this is correct.

[langman]

@ CruNcher

Yes, I noticed that only the RISC and DSP changed. The upgrade was very quick, less that a minute, so it could be that it only updated that 2 files. If it fixed some bugs I don't know, because I did not discovered any bugs before I done the upgrade. Was hoping for a random play function.

[Zhnujm]

The Rimax should already support a random function. Im somewhat sure because i already tried the firmware with my elta.
Normally you can cycle trough the different playback modes with the repeat button.

[langman]

Thanks for the info. If I understand you correctly you tested the Rimax firmware in your Elta and it worked. On the Rimax with the latest Rimax firmware the repeat button only cycle through All or Single. No Random function. Anyhow the good news is that if it worked on the Elta it will also work with a new firmware release from Rimax "hopefully in the near future". Can I use the Elta 8883 firmware on the Rimax (MT1389DE) player. Don't want to kill it, was not easy "$$$" to get the player delivered in the Middle East.

[Zhnujm]

Yes, i tried the rimax firmware with the elta but i would not recommend this. Theres no gurantee that it works the other way. I only tried it because i have a damaged second player that i cannot use for other things anymore.
And now it does not read any CD/DVD because i flashed the xoro 400pro firmware on this player...

[langman]

@ Zhnujm

Thanks for the info and advise, I will wait for Rimax's new firmware.

[monty0815]

Don't know if it is of any importance, but the Neuneo Player has a MTK1389EE chipset. does anybody have information, on what the differences are to the other chipsets?

http://www.neuneo.com/shtmls/divxdvd/

Based on next generation MPEG4 Chipset --- MTK 1389EE, MTK1389EE is DivX™ Certified and support raw MPEG1/MPEG2/MPEG-4 Avi, DivX™* (all version includes ver 3.11, 4, 5 and up), Xvid, VBR MP3, WMA, Jpeg, PhotoCD, HDCD, burn your favourite PC format files into CDR and watch on big screen TV!

[Hackerjac]

Found some inf about Denver 158 on another board, seems like they have changed the build and now put in the MTK 1389DE chip insted

05.00.02.02 VERSION
00.00.00.01 SUB-VER
05.00.02.02 8032
01.07.00.00 SERVO
05.00.02.02 RISC
03.03.00.23 DSP

[sneaker333]

I have recently purchased the Rimax Divx Player - I was swayed to it from the other MT1389 based players available in the UK due to the fact that the specs clearly state AAC audio support. All the other MT1389 appear to list WMA support instead of AAC, whereas the Rimax listed AAC and had an absence of WMA in its list of supported formats. However, I find that the player appears to play WMA format instead of AAC just like all the others despite trying various file extension (such as .MP4, .M4A or .AAC). Has anyone else had any luck with this. I have also found that the player doesn't really like any of the brands of DVD-Rs or DVD-RWs that I have despite the fact that they are generally regarded as very good (Verbatim, Apple, Ritek). I find that I appear to get errors in the data stream that causes random corrupt video sequences .... if I rewind and replay a problematic section then it will play it fine, and then screw up elsewhere. There doesn't appear to be this kind of problem using CD-R or CD-RW. Is anyone else finding this or what make of media are you using.

Cheers

[CavalloPazzo]

I've just received a doshima 2038... the seller told it was a elta 8883 clone, but I'm suspecting it has a ge chip because it has display on the right :( ... I can't find where this information is stored... Can someone help me?
I've just watched a full movie... at the beginning it showed some speedup, slowdown, but only at beginning (first minute), but I experienced a little audio / video desynch (vbr mp3) so I'd like to update firmware...but don't know where to download and if I can broken my player (on first post it's written so).
Thanks

[Sharro]

Could somebody try to confirm the change of DENVER 158 to chip MTK 1389DE ?

All the best,

Sharro

[Zhnujm]

@CavalloPazzo:
Is it this player: http://cgi.ebay.ch/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3083306734&category=27730
It looks really like an elta 8883. But you say the display is on the right side :confused:

A good sign for a DE Player is if it has color settings (brightness,contrast,..) in the setup, i have not seen a GE player that has such settings.

[CavalloPazzo]

Yes, it has brightness and color control... but maybe it's only question of firmware :confused: .
Maybe i'll open to see...

[ropmip]

I have a DENVER DVD 158divx, and I am almost sure it has a MEDIATEK 1389DE inside (I haven't open it). I've checked the firmware version
and it's the same as elta's 8883 firmware update:
05.00.02.02 VERSION
00.00.00.01 SUB-VER
05.00.02.02 8032
01.07.00.00 SERVO
05.00.02.02 RISC
03.03.00.23 DSP
I guess I could download ELTA's Firmware to "update" my player as it would only change background picture. Am I right?
The screen captures I've seen from other 1389DE based players are the same as DENVER 158 so...

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by ropmip
I guess I could download ELTA's Firmware to "update" my player as it would only change background picture. Am I right?
The screen captures I've seen from other 1389DE based players are the same as DENVER 158 so...

Maybe you are right but maybe you loose the front buttons or the remote control.
And if both happens the same time you cannot flash it back....

[Mirko]

I HAVE AMSTRAD DX3016 DVD PLAYER WITH MEDIATEK DE CHIP LIKE ELTA 8883,
AND I FOUND NEW UPDATE ON http://www.solaricom.it/html/home.html WITH MTK.BIN FILE DATE 13.02.2004.
ITS THAT NEW UPDATE OR SOMETHING ELSE ?

I BADLY NEED SUBTITLE SUPPORT(DIVX) FOR MY AMSTRAD DX3016!!! :confused: :confused:

[plazz2000]

Will this firmware upgrade work on elta 8883?

Anyone brave enough to try it?

[Mirko]

it is not that simple.
I while only update my amstrad dx 3016 if that upgrade support subtitle in divx movie.
Everything else is not important for my.
BECAUSE that i ask you what is that on page [url]http://www.solaricom.it/html/home.html

HOW I NOW ELTA 8883 BIOS ON AMSTRAD DX3016 WORK BUT REVERSE ? I DON'T NOW.

[monty0815]

There is a newer firmware available for the Ascomtek 3004 which should re-enable the DTS encoding (or something, my spanish isn't all that good ;-)). It's available through the spanish Ascomtec page.
The change should be like this:

Versión:.....05.00.02.02
Sub.ver:.....00.00.02.02
8032:........05.00.02.02
Servo:.......01.11.40.00
Risc:.........05.00.02.02
DSP:.........03.03.00.33

no changelog, but the MTK.bin is dated 29.3.2004.

cheers, monty

[oddball]

Monty does it play any sort of subtitles? Got any divx with .srt or .sub?

[monty0815]

Don't know for sure.
I don't have an Ascomtec, just read it in a spanish board, but they didn't talk about subs there.
I'm waiting for subtitle support on the elta 8883. The Ascomtec firmware probably works for me, but it's not worth the risk, until I find out that a firmware definatly supports subs.

cheers, monty

[Zhnujm]

They even removed the update, because of some dying players if i can trust the google translation of some spanish forum.
Also it seems that it does not support subtitles.

[Mirko]

How I now , neither one of dvd(divx) player with mediatek DE chip dont support divx subtitle.

[Humus]

I just got Apex DVX-2102 player. Can't open it, but I think it based on DE chipset. Firmware version is:
VERSION = 05.00.02.03
SUB-VERSION = 00.00.00.01
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??
I'm also pretty sure it's the same manufacturer that making Yamada 6600 - same rear panel, same front panel buttons on the top of the player, same firmware version...all except sub-version and some cosmetic changes on front panel. Of course there isn't a sign of this player on Apex website - I think they jsut used Apex logo to sell it in our region- Middle East. Since I couldn't buy Yamada here, I got this one. No hope for firmware upadate for this player, so I wanted to ask your opinion - may i try upcoming Yamada firmware. Subtitles are pretty important to me, and reencoding movies with hardwired subs as you all know is a pain:). I don't know if it will be safe cause of Sub-version difference and I can't tell what Servo etc are.
Thank you in advance.

[Mirko]

NEW BIOS update(06.04.2004) for AMSTRAD DX3016 (MEDIATEK DE CHIP)
ON PAGE
http://www.solaricom.it/html/home.html
DOES ENYONE NOW THAT THIS UPDATE SUPORT SUBTITLE IN DIVX MOVIE BECAUSE
MY ITALINO IS EQUAL ZERO

[Zhnujm]

Amstrad DX3016 Update

Version:.....05.00.01.06
Sub.ver:.....00.00.01.06
8032:........05.00.01.06
Servo:.......01.05.01.00
Risc:........05.00.02.02
DSP:.........03.03.00.33

Support for DivX Audio, but cant find subtitles :o

[CavalloPazzo]

it say it only fix A/V synch problems

[CruNcher]

thx btw i also have a update for you :) 1st successes in Reverse Engineering the MediaTek Firmware have been achived it's now possible to modify and flash it back to the player :)

[CruNcher]

Again news :)
the first MediaTek Based firmware with .srt subbtitle support has found it's way to the net based on BBK Standalones like the Atacom DV967,SILTEX DV967 and Peekton PK6003 http://forumdreamzone.free.fr/Dv967/967FR-1-0402%81inew%20software%20with%20subtiltle).bin just rename it to MTK.bin and the normal burn procedures for DE Player it's not known yet if it can be used on GE based player also and still their is the eprom problem i can't guarantee that it will work for your player and i take no responsibility for what you doing with it.


However it also looks like this firmware has introduced new bugs :

- extended characters do not show in subtitles ; extended characters (as in the ISO-8859-1 (Latin-1) charset) are absolutely necessary for the use of accents in French, German, Portuguese and Spanish texts.
- screen display is excentered to the top (moved up)
- fast forward on simple DiVX turns out to have become limited to x4 even if the OSD shows x32
- zoom 1/2 does not work anymore and acts as a zoom x2
- finally, some people complained that the screen display permanently autoswitches from 4/3 to 16/9 (large) and back from 16/9 to 4/3 leading to a distorted image on 4/3 TV's, but i suspect this one was already present in the former firmware.
Thanks very much for transmitting these infos to your technical team.
We are eagerly awaiting any possible fix for these introduced bugs.

Best regards,
Rod

[Zhnujm]

Atacom DV967,SILTEX DV967 and Peekton PK6003 are all GE based.
I dont think its a good idea to try this firmware on DE based players...

[CruNcher]

Zhnujm are you sure ?

[amango]

@Cruncher

Do you have tested it on one GE-based player? The firmware seems to be bigger as usual (over 1100 kb). Or are there any reports about successfully upgrading the firmware?

[Zhnujm]

@Cruncher:
No, not really, i read it at this forum:
http://forum.surdvd.com/viewtopic.php?t=24467

Theres also a discussion about the firmware, but i cannot read french :rolleyes: , and the google translation is awful.

Maybe some frech speaking people here ?
http://forum.surdvd.com/viewtopic.php?t=23969&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=600

[CruNcher]

@Zhnujm

even if that's the case it doesn't matter anymore finaly i have the evidence :) that GE and DE are made from the same Source Tree by a Seller



@Pixies II : mon contact m'a répondu que le firmware était à la fois adapté pour les DE et les GE, donc a priori les 2 cas que l'on a observé ici sont dus à un mauvais respect de la procédure.

Ci-dessous copie de la lettre envoyée à BBK :

After multiple beta testing of the new firmware for Atacom DV967 on our popular forum (Forum.surdvd.com), it appears that the firmware 967FR-1-0402 has solved the wma support, and some asynchronisation problems, and has introduced the ability of reading subtitles and we thank you very much for this.

However it also looks like this firmware has introduced new bugs :

- extended characters do not show in subtitles ; extended characters (as in the ISO-8859-1 (Latin-1) charset) are absolutely necessary for the use of accents in French, German, Portuguese and Spanish texts.
- screen display is excentered to the top (moved up)
- fast forward on simple DiVX turns out to have become limited to x4 even if the OSD shows x32
- zoom 1/2 does not work anymore and acts as a zoom x5
- finally, some people complained that the screen display permanently autoswitches from 4/3 to 16/9 (large) and back from 16/9 to 4/3 leading to a distorted image on 4/3 TV's, but i suspect this one was already present in the former firmware.

Thanks very much for transmitting these infos to your technical team.
We are eagerly awaiting any possible fix for these introduced bugs.

Best regards,
Rod


@Pixies II : mon contact m'a répondu que le firmware était à la fois adapté pour les DE et les GE, donc a priori les 2 cas que l'on a observé ici sont dus à un mauvais respect de la procédure.

translated:
my contact answered me that the firmware was both for the DE and the GE, so the 2 case we observed here are probably due to a disrespect of the procedure


i'll update my Medion now even if it fails i build on Pandora anyways :)

It Failed he's dead goodbye Medion 7575

[Zhnujm]

Better have a look if that player/remote control look similar to yours, theres no need for a player if the remote control does not work anymore...or even worse, the dvd drive.

[CruNcher]

@Zhnujm

but you know whats cool :)
i have a test case for Pandora now :D

@amango

it killed my Medion 7575

[amango]

Medion seems to have a new firmware for the MD 7457, but haven't released it yet.

Look here (http://www.dvdboard.de/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=70794) (in German).

[The Rabbit]

Originally posted by CruNcher
Again news :)
the first MediaTek Based firmware with .srt subbtitle support has found it's way to the net based on BBK Standalones like the Atacom DV967,SILTEX DV967 and Peekton PK6003 http://forumdreamzone.free.fr/Dv967/967FR-1-0402%81inew%20software%20with%20subtiltle).bin just rename it to MTK.bin and the normal burn procedures for DE Player it's not known yet if it can be used on GE based player also and still their is the eprom problem i can't guarantee that it will work for your player and i take no responsibility for what you doing with it.

Great news. Has anyone tested if it support SMI format or VobSub subtitle (ifo/idx/sub)?

Thanks.

[Sharro]

Is there dates known for a similar firmware from Elta or Ascomtec ?

All the best

Sharro

[CruNcher]

it looks like the Firmware is for MT1389 FE player

What does this say to us: Never trust a Seller

[oddball]

I emailed Elta about this FE issue and they said that the Elat 8883 firmware was still being worked on.

[oddball]

All he said was an update was being worked on (Could be bluster of course).

[Zhnujm]

The Yamada 6600 now supports .srt subtitles with new firmware.
Subtitle file must use the same name as the .avi file, no support for multiple subtitle files.

[mactop]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
The Yamada 6600 now supports .srt subtitles with new firmware.
Subtitle file must use the same name as the .avi file, no support for multiple subtitle files.
Hi
Where can i read more about it ?

[Zhnujm]

Thats all i know, it was posted at www.dvdboard.de:
I wonder how long MediaTek needs to "research" the Xvid problems. :rolleyes:

Original geschrieben von Thomas3k
I put the first Firmware that support SRT subtitles on our server.
(Supports SRT subtitles, name of subtitle should be the same like movie
so file.srt and file.avi , will play automatically, use subtitle key to disable it.)
Fixes some small issues like onscreen Time/Zoom display,has latest codec available for the used MTK chipset.
XVID issues are still under research from MTK company, if they did solve this we will release another firmware immediately.
(For Information why XVID movies could make trouble please see:
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=72899
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=67028

Download www.yamada.de/ftp/dvx6600b1.zip
Instructions: www.yamada.de/ftp/yamada_update_eng.pdf
Anleitung: www.yamada.de/ftp/yamada_update_ger.pdf

Cheers and have a nice weekend,

Thomas

[mactop]

Thank You !
And i wonder if there is anybody brave enough to update Elta 8883 with this FW :D Those players got the same chip version so it might work :confused: :)

[oddball]

I'm presuming Thomas works for Yamada? If so I find it funny that they should use my post about my workaround for removing packed bitstream from XviD as a reference. ;)

I cannot believe it's taking them so long to make a fix in the firmware. If I see a fix to playback XviD correctly appear before the summer I'll be very surprised. In fact I have a sneaky feeling Mediatek will dump making new firmwares for this chip and move onto the next.

[Zhnujm]

I dont think there will be new chips from Mediatek in the next time.
But everything seems to take a LOOONG time in this business. :rolleyes:

[Humus]

Well, tried to upgrade my Apex DVX-2102, which is clone of Yamada 6000 but with 1389DE inside - no go, player can't recognize disk (renaming bin file to MTK.BIN didn't help). I guess i will have to continue to reencode movies with subs till someone will try to edit firmware:)

[romravan]

Yesterday firmware for the reader Amstrad 3016DX has arrived..... but the readers with number of series 311,and some with seriale number 312, are all dead.......

Version 05.00.03.06
Sub-ver 00.00.00.01
8032 05.00.03.06
Servo 01.11.40.00
Risc 05.00.03.07
Dsp 03.03.00.99

without responsibility from part mine

[Zhnujm]

Do you know wich serials do work ?

[romravan]

There are four seriali numbers:
311=NO!
312= ?
401=yes
402=yes


without responsibility from part mine
sorry for my bad english......

[mactop]

Originally posted by Humus
Well, tried to upgrade my Apex DVX-2102, which is clone of Yamada 6000 but with 1389DE inside - no go, player can't recognize disk (renaming bin file to MTK.BIN didn't help). I guess i will have to continue to reencode movies with subs till someone will try to edit firmware:)
My elta 8883 accept that file from Yamada 6600 but im not brave enough to press "PLAY" key to update FW :rolleyes: :p

[romravan]

sorry....the amstrad 3016dx firmware upgrade it makes to recognize the subtitles.srt and divx with audio wma.......

[Hackerjac]

my scott 842 whit mtk 1389DE chip also accept the file after i renamed it to MTK.bin, but i'm not brave enough either to hit the play button yet

[Zhnujm]

@romravan:
Thanks, i think i wont try it with my elta, the serial begins with 310...


@others:
I dont think you will have a working player if you try to update your elta with the yamada firmware.
Even if the player will work - if the remote control or the buttons on the player are different you wont have a chance to flash it back or use it.
If the problem with some of the amstrad players are solved i will try the amstrad firmware, it is fully compatible with the elta (remote control,buttons)

[Zhnujm]

Theres now a second update for the amstrad, i think for the players that failed before.
So i tried this with my elta and it works.
Finally .srt subtitles, but very limited. Not centered, white text with no outline and if you use ff/rew they stop working.
And it seems the default video setting is NTSC.

[Zhnujm]

It seems this firmware supports the Pixel Aspect ratio settings you can set with Xvid !!
I was waiting for this so long. :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
It seems this firmware supports the Pixel Aspect ratio settings you can set with Xvid !!
I was waiting for this so long. :) Does this mean you can now manually alter the AR of any Mpeg4 video stream?

Cheers

[romravan]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
It seems this firmware supports the Pixel Aspect ratio settings you can set with Xvid !!
I was waiting for this so long. :)

but the xvid with GMC..?
yes or not?

[Zhnujm]

@SeeMoreDigital:
No free resizing, it just uses the Aspect Ratio Setting that you can change in Xvid. So if you encode anamorphic (crop only black bars) it works exactly like the original dvd.

@romravan:
No change, Xvid+GMC and Packet Bitstream with more than 1 bframe still do not work.

[oddball]

Dammit!

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
@SeeMoreDigital:
No free resizing, it just uses the Aspect Ratio Setting that you can change in Xvid. So if you encode anamorphic (crop only black bars) it works exactly like the original dvd. This is still excellent news. I was not expecting such an implementation to take place using the AVI container.

Have you tried generating anamorphic encodes using 3ivX and FFvfw? Or does anamorphic signalling only work when Xvid's 4CC is present?

I'm interested that AR adjustment is able to work with cropped encodes. Have you tested using 720x480/576 with a 2.35:1 image and with the mattes left in?

And... does the 16:9 TV output setting work correctly?

Sorry about all the questions!

Cheers

[Zhnujm]

I just stumbled over this feature so i think it needs some time to test if it really works correctly.

It seems that the AR setting also works with 720x576 without cropping the black bars. But now theres another problem with these files, they dont run smooth anymore. :confused:
The TV settings now works the same as with an anamorphic dvd, if set to 4:3 the picture height is reduced to get the right aspect ratio with 4:3 TVs, if set to 16:9 it is played as it is for 16:9 TVs.

Until now i only tried Xvid files, i dont have 3ivx or ffvfw files. I even dont know if these would work with my player.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi Zhnujm,

I'm in the process of encoding some short (250frame) anamorphic XviD, 3ivX and FFvfw encodes for you to test. If you could please?

I'll let you know when they are ready.

This is really great stuff... At last, you guys can see the encodes as they should be :D

Cheers

[Zhnujm]

Of course i can try them.
But there seems to be a major problem with this firmware or it is because i use it with my elta, all files above and including 720x480 are stuttering.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Well, why not give these PAL encodes a go. You never know they might work!

XviD tests (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/seemoredigital/XviD_Anamorphic_Signalling_Tests_PAL.zip)

3ivX tests (http://homepage.ntlworld.com/seemoredigital/3ivX_Anamorphic_Signalling_Tests_PAL.zip)

I'm having a bit of trouble with the FFvfw codec, as it keeps crashing during the second pass!

Cheers and good luck

[Hackerjac]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
Theres now a second update for the amstrad, i think for the players that failed before.
So i tried this with my elta and it works.
Finally .srt subtitles, but very limited. Not centered, white text with no outline and if you use ff/rew they stop working.
And it seems the default video setting is NTSC.



Any chance you have a link to that firmware, have been looking on www.amstrad.cc, but haven't been abel to find firmware to DX 3016, i know the elta firmware can be used on my scott so i would like to try out the amstrad too

[romravan]

http://www.solaricom.it/html/dx3016_2.html

[dalleballe]

I just bought a

Lumatron DVX1020 (Sweden)
----------------
Version = 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 00.00.02.02
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.10.20.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.33

[Zhnujm]

@SeeMoreDigital:
Both Xvid and 3ivx work fine, cropped and uncropped.
I also tried different custom settings (16:11-16:7), all settings are changing the output so i think it works good.

I hope its not only a "bug" and it gets implemented in all meditaek based players, especially my elta :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
@SeeMoreDigital:
Both Xvid and 3ivx work fine, cropped and uncropped.
I also tried different custom settings (16:11-16:7), all settings are changing the output so i think it works good. That's great news!

I'm especially glad the 3ivX encodes worked, as this leaves the door open for more than one codec manufacturer to implement anamorphic signalling. Did you have to change 3ivX's 4CC to XviD or did you leave it as 3iv2?

Cheers

[Zhnujm]

I also thought it would only work with xvid or divx fourcc so i made copies and changed the code but both version work, 3iv2 and xvid.

[Sharro]

Ascomtec has just released firmware for their MT1389DE based player.

They state that they are still working on firmware to support accentuated characters.

EDIT:

They should also work on bigger font because these ones look like miniature subtitles...

Accentuated characters show as space.

Looks like decoding became slower but I will have to further investigate.

END EDIT

As soon as I get home, I will install it and report.

All the best,


Sharro

[ropmip]

Has someone tried yamada or amstrad or ascomtec firmware with other players with the de? does it work? Should I risk it?

[plazz2000]

Has anyone tried the new Amstrad 3016dx firmware on an elta 8883?

If I try it, and my elta 8883 "dies", will I be able to use my old elta 8883 firmware upgrade CD to fix it? Or will it be broken forever?

[Zhnujm]

I tried the Ascomtec,Rimax and Amstrad firmware with my elta 8883.
I dont think the Yamada firmware will be compatible.
If its worth the risk ? Only if you dont fear the loss of your player.
And it depends on what you expect from these firmwares. If its subtitle support - i dont think that it is worth upgrading now, they do not not work good.
And things are getting even more complicated, now the updates (Ascomtec/Amstrad) are splitted for different version of the players.


@plazz2000:
Most likely its broken forever...

[ropmip]

I have a DENVER DVD158 which as I checked as exactly the same firmware version codes as the Elta 8883, so I should wait for a good upgrade from Elta to try it. Does your remote work with every firmware you tried?

[Zhnujm]

The remote did work with the updates i mentioned above, but that does not mean that it works with your player.
I tried also the Xoro 400pro firmware, the buttons on the remote are mixed up and it could not read cds/dvds anymore.
Makes it a bit useless...

[Hackerjac]

Originally posted by ropmip
I have a DENVER DVD158 which as I checked as exactly the same firmware version codes as the Elta 8883, so I should wait for a good upgrade from Elta to try it. Does your remote work with every firmware you tried?


If i have read correct on other forums about the Denver, then its based on the GE chip and not like the Elta that use the DE chip, so flashing it whit the elta firmware might/probbely kill it

[The Rabbit]

Originally posted by Zhnujm

@romravan:
No change, Xvid+GMC and Packet Bitstream with more than 1 bframe still do not work.

Have you tried those bitstreams with custom matrices? Have they fixed this bug?

Thanks.

[Zhnujm]

Custom Matrices seem to work now :)
I tried all that come with Xvid.

[mactop]

Zhnujm: can You tell me exactly which FW did you updated your Elta 8883 with ? Im waiting for Elta's move too long and i would like to try it (need srt support bad :rolleyes: ).
Is it possible to return to the old Elta FW after that ?

[Zhnujm]

Currently im using the Ascomtec firmware from here:
http://www.ascomtec.com/SP/SUBT_ENG.html

There are two versions, im using the update for version 1.0.0.6 as my player is one of the first (serial begins with 310), i do not know what happens if you choose the wrong one, most likely your player is dead.
The front buttons do not work with this update.

With the Amstrad firmware the buttons do work:
http://www.solaricom.it/html/dx3016_2.html

But its the same problem with choosing the right update file.
I think they are running out of flash memory and have to split the firmware for different models.

You can flash your player back afterwards.
But most important, subtitles do NOT work good, they just disapear after a while or if you use ff/rew. :rolleyes:

[mactop]

Originally posted by Zhnujm

But most important, subtitles do NOT work good, they just disapear after a while or if you use ff/rew. :rolleyes:
Thank You. I must wait than :scared:.
Its strange, that Elta 8883 was one of the first using MT 1389DE and now wee have to wait so long for new FW.
One more question. If i put few movies on one dvd,but each movie with its srt file in separate folder, will subtitles work then ?

[romravan]

The questions is two eprom ?
SST39VF080....HY29F800-70 ?

[Mirko]

To Mactop : Yes
On My Amstrad DX3016 (MT1389DE)with new firmware subtitle work,only with srt subtitle file and I put 6 or 7 DivX in folder to DVD-RW.

SUBTITLE SUPORT
- when movie(Divx)start Put subtitle button on remote
- FF/REW work with no problem
- white little smal size
- no backround color
- hole in place of special letter(Country)

Much Better than anything !!!!


FIRMWARE !!! to be carefull
On remote control put button SETUP then code 49540 and look yours
version of firmware .....see page:

http://www.solaricom.it/html/download.html

[mactop]

My Elta got this FW

Version = 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 00.00.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.07.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

and S/N is 8883.310.10xxx
Which Amstrad FW can i use then ? On Amstrad site i see Versione : 05.00.02.02 and Versione : 05.00.03.06. Doses it mean for the first one that i can use it if my version IS 05.00.02.02 or IT WILL UPDATE MY FW to version 05.00.02.02 ???

[Zhnujm]

Seems they changed the site, it no more possible to download the actual firmware.
The 5.00.02.02 is an older one.
Yesterday you came to a second site if you click on "DX3016 Versione : 05.00.03.06"
wich let you decide between 2 different version of players, one with version 5.00.01.06 and one with 5.00.02.02

[mactop]

...

[kokoon]

i flashed my elta8883 with the same amstrad fw Zhnujm did and killed it. my elta8883's serial also begins with 310 and the firmware i used was the rightmost one on the download page. i chose the correct one according to the instructions there.

everything seemed fine, it upgraded well, but after that the player wont read any media. everything else seems to work.

apparently the dvd drive is a bit different and now i have a semi-working player that i cant use.

im pretty much pissed off.

[wim]

okay mt1389xx players, so there's a MT1389DE, MT1389EE, MT1389FE, MT1389GE, MT1389SE

can anyone tell me what the letters xx mean?
what are the differences between these chipsets, and which is the best?

[Mirko]

TO Mactop: DONT HURRY
Big changes (for Amstrad DX3016) in solaris site tell us to wait.

NOW NEW FIRMWARE version 05.00.02.02 ON SOLARIS SITE ACTUALLY IS OLD FIRMWARE (DATE MTK IS 06.04.2004).(subtitle dont work)

My firmware is version 05.00.01.07 (date MTK 25.04.2004) and subtitle work

answer
Which Amstrad FW can i use then ? On Amstrad site i see Versione : 05.00.02.02 and Versione : 05.00.03.06. Doses it mean for the first one that i can use it if my version IS 05.00.02.02 or IT WILL UPDATE MY FW to version 05.00.02.02 ???""

your version is 05.00.02.02 and update is 05.00.02.02(on the solaris site), and then you have 05.00.03.06 firmware ,but read kokoon last post!!!!! and

NOW NEW FIRMWARE version 05.00.02.02 ON SOLARIS SITE ACTUALLY IS OLD FIRMWARE (DATE MTK IS 06.04.2004).(subtitle dont work)

[Zhnujm]

@Mirko:
Can you post a small part of the subtitle file you are using ?
Just to make sure that im not using the wrong subtitle format.

[Mirko]

TO Zhnujm
Every subtitle I have i convert to srt(SubRip) format with Subtitle Studio
and everything work fine. Till now I loock 3 or 4 divX movie and everything is OK . FW-REW work 100% in DivX with srt subtitle


1
00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:15,000
Evo, plana.
Mi smo u bašti, jel' tako?

2
00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,680
Sve je sjajno, a tamo je i ono drvo.

3
00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:24,800
I èovek reèe:, "Vidiš ono drvo.Nemoj jesti voæe stog drveta.
Tu jabuku nemoj jesti."

4
00:00:25,000 --> 00:00:28,400
Ulazi unutra i imenuje neke od životinja.
Možda uzima neko od ðubreta.

5
00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,480
Svejedno, a šta ona radi za to vreme?
Šta radi?

6
00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:33,440
Jede jabuku!

[Mirko]

To Mactop

I update my amstrad (firmware ver.05.00.01.06) 27 or 28. April 2004.
On solaris site in that time wrote this:

1)for version 05.00.01.06 new version is 05.00.01.07
MTK.BIN DATE 25.4.2004 12:06

2)for version 05.00.02.02 new version is 05.00.03.06
MTK.BIN DATE 22.4.2004 16:55

NOW ON SOLARIS SITE YOU HAVE:

1) VERSION 05.00.02.02
MTK.BIN DATE 06.4.2004 11:07 *** ( THIS IS OLD, i UPDATE MY AMSTRAD
WITH THIS FIRMWARE 7.4.2004. BEFORE NEW VERSION OF FIRMWARE 05.00.01.07)

2) VERSION 05.00.03.06
MTK.BIN DATE 22.4.2004 16:55 *** (SEE THIS IS SAME VERSION LIKE NO.2 BEFORE SOLARIS CHANGE (DATE 01.05.2004))

I THING THAT YOU CAN USE BOTH FIRMWARE BUT NO.2 HAVE SUBTITLE SUPPORT!!!!!!

ITS THAT HELP YOU ?

[Zhnujm]

Thanks.
So i think the reason why it wont work is that it is an elta with Amstrad firmware and not an original...
But the subtitle support look promising, if you name the subtitle files film.eng.srt and film.fra.srt you can cycle trough them and it shows the right language in the osd.

[Mirko]

to Zhnujm
film.eng.srt and film.fra.srt ...this work fine only player when I change subtitle stop on a moment (Like "Pause" then press "play").

In SubRip you must by careful
1. no overlap time
2. no subtitle time withaut any letter.
this works problem

If you open srt file with subtitle studio(subrip software better) with no problem that is subtitle file OK.

Yesterday I try everything about specijal character(ŠÐöäüÄÖÜ...)but nothing dont work.

PROBLEM WITH HOLE in subtitle ?
I think that work only Code Page 437
I need Code Page 1250 or old Code Page 850

What You Think?

[Midnight Tboy]

hi, I bought the DK Digital DVD-339 player just - got fed up of converting all my avis into dvdr/cvd resolution format again and bought one - only to find that my avi files joined up at 1.36gb always cut out round about the 1gb mark...the mannual doesn't warn about anything alike to that....exactly which chipset is this? the GE one Im guessing as this seems to be the cheaper one. Its a bit inconvenient to me if I have to keep cutting every one of my files into 700mb chunks to be able to watch them, and its not documented...any fixes for this one, and surely if not I'll be covered to return it to my mail order outlet for a refund as its not doing the job that I want? please help, as if I can't get the problem fixed, I'd like to send it back, but I dont want them to turn around and say "theres nothing wrong with it" and to send me it back minus administration charges if they refuse to refund.. what rights do I have with that?

cheers,
Tuck

[mactop]

new FW for elta with subtitle support :cool:

http://www.elta.de/downloads/software/8883%20MP4_Firmware%205.0.3.5_3_4_5_7_1052004.zip

[Tomstone98]

I've got a spanish clone of dkdigital called grunkel DVX-50T.

The website is www.grunkel.com; here you can watch an image from the player; it's the same than yours.

http://www.grunkel.com/fotos/dvd/DVX-50-T.jpg

We have new firmware since 20 march 2004; you can find it at www.conetxion.com in the section called "actualizacion divx". There are three different versions.

Model 29 & Ansonic DIXH10T : Both firms are identical; toy must use this firms if your servo version is 02.06.00.00
(you can see the servo pressing SETUP 1379 in your remote)

Model 31: This firm is suitable if you haver servo version 07.02.00.00.

If you have another servo version DON'T USE this firmws; or your player will die.

Here in Spain thre´s a lot of clones of this player; like ansonic DIXH10T, saivod DIXH, nevir 2046/2047, Sunstech DPVX505.... Actually people use grunkel firms.

The actual firm version is:

MODEL 29 & ANSONIX & SAIVOD after update:

VERSION.- 05.00.02.02
SUBVERSION.- 54.07.00.01
8032.- 05.00.02.02
SERVO.- 02.06.00.00
RISC.- 05.00.02.02
DSP.- 03.03.00.23

MODEL 31 after update:

Version 05.00.02.06
Sub-ver 54.0A.00.04
8032 05.00.02.06
Servo 07.02.00.00
Risc 05.00.02.06
DSP 03.03.00.36

[Sharro]

Could somebody just tell me if they made Subtitles bigger ?

The first ones are of no use....so small...

All the best,


Sharro

[Mirko]

for Elta 8883 owners
I read that elta support smi subtitle (smi on amstrad dx3016 work equal srt, little size ,white ...)
On Elta??

[Mr Whippy]

Here's the info on the Neuneo..

Version 05.00.01.03
Sub-ver 00.00.00.02
8032 05.00.01.03
sero 01.11.00.00
risc 05.00.02.05


Oh also had a H&B DX-3220. Monsters Inc does not work on both the Neuneo & H&B. Set the Neuneo to R1. Gets to the warning screen then goes back to the Neuneo/H&B logo. This disc works on a PC and a Sony R1 DVD-Video player.

It's the Canadian R1. 8693616488 EAN number

[hans-jürgen]

Originally posted by sneaker333
However, I find that the player appears to play WMA format instead of AAC just like all the others despite trying various file extension (such as .MP4, .M4A or .AAC). Has anyone else had any luck with this. I've read this statement on their website, too, so maybe you made a mistake with the different AAC/MP4 variations? My guess would be that the Rimax doesn't support anything else than MPEG-2 AAC LC files, maybe even in stereo only, not multichannel. How did you encode your test files, which AAC codec with which settings?

[Mr Whippy]

The Neuneo is NOT a EE chipset. I've just opened mine up and it's the GE!!

What a crock of ****!:angry:

Unless you get the luck of the draw with the EE version.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by sneaker333
I have recently purchased the Rimax Divx Player - I was swayed to it from the other MT1389 based players available in the UK due to the fact that the specs clearly state AAC audio support. I'm still not very clear on this!

Can the Rimix player handle AAC streams or not?


Cheers

[Mr Whippy]

Well the Neuneo lasted long!:rolleyes:

It went crunch- the pickup jammed because the ribbon cable was too short. And now the pickup is out of alignment.

Avoid this piece of crap!:mad: :mad:

[clayts450]

The UK importer of the DK Digital DVD-339 has confirmed the next batch of players should be available by the end of May/early June and will now feature MT1389DE chips, rather than GE chips :)

The player also got 5 stars in the UK gadget magazine, T3 (June 2004 issue) - well done fellas !

[CruNcher]

Originally posted by Mr Whippy
The Neuneo is NOT a EE chipset. I've just opened mine up and it's the GE!!

What a crock of ****!:angry:

Unless you get the luck of the draw with the EE version.

hmm

Based on next generation MPEG4 Chipset --- MTK 1389, MTK1389 is DivX™ Certified

that is not 100% true the GE chip is not Certified they lie to the customers

wouldn't that be misleading information couldn't they be sued for it ?

[Mr Whippy]

No idea- I'm no lawyer :p guess would be depend on your local laws, and whether a internet based company (in another county) has any relevance of chasing up a lawsuit, it's that at all possible in the first place.

Anyway, (if) the GE is the inferior chipset (and is not Divx certified) does this actually mean anything?

For example in audio- just because gear is THX certified does not mean a non-THX amp is inferior in sound quality.

Has anyone actually used a DE & GE chipset player? And compared compatibility/reliability/picture quality, with the version & features of the existing firmware?

For example- the H&B (DE) has superior video connections (SCART) and video adjustments over the Neuneo, but it could not play a certain Divx file. Yet the Neuneo does.

Oh would be great if you could edit your first post, move the Neuneo from EE to GE. Since I bought the Neuneo because you stated the Neuneo is a different chipset, and not the early GE:rolleyes:

[SeeMoreDigital]

Personally speaking I would prefer it if Mpeg4 players were not DivX certified...

I really can't help feeling that DivX's current 'limited' certification program is holding back hardware player progress.


Cheers

[bond]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
I really can't help feeling that DivX's current 'limited' certification program is holding back hardware player progressthats my opinion too
as the two newest chips show, they are able to do far more than the divx certification defines
still with gmc for example we see that chip manufacturers still look at the divx5 implementation of the mpeg-4 standard, which is very weak and only uses gmc with 1 warppoint

imo the only thing which should count are the profiles/levels defined in the mpeg-4 standard!
there simply is no need for a private profile, like the home theater profile as defined for the divx certification
the mpeg-4 standard gives the manufacturers everything what is needed to ensure interoperability already

for me the divx certification is nothing but the try of divxnetworks to brainwash the people and make them think that "divx" is what counts, not mpeg-4

[oddball]

I'm annoyed that they have not even bothered to fix those issues in the latest firmware.

[speed_X]

Originally posted by monty0815
Don't know if it is of any importance, but the Neuneo Player has a MTK1389EE chipset. does anybody have information, on what the differences are to the other chipsets?

http://www.neuneo.com/shtmls/divxdvd/

Click on the link again, you won't find any mention of the 1389EE chip. They only mention MT1389.

I've seen the link and at one time it did mention the 1389EE chipset. I think the best way to handle the bad sales practices of NeoDigits is to complain to eBay. When you claim your unit is one thing and it's not, that's called dis-honesty (for lack of a better word)

The best thing to do, is to warn other potential buyers about the less than ethical practices and keep them from sending money to those companies. Perhaps someone will file a complaint with either eBay or PayPal. I know they have been tricking consumers.

[speed_X]

Originally posted by Mr Whippy
The Neuneo is NOT a EE chipset. I've just opened mine up and it's the GE!!

What a crock of ****!:angry:

Unless you get the luck of the draw with the EE version.

NO, it's not the luck of the draw. NeoDigits wants to make buyers believe they are purchasing a player made with a divx certified chip however, they deliver a 1389GE chip! I had the same experience. I strongly doubt many of the very positive reviews I've read about this player. "Roy" at NeoDigits claims he didn't know the player had a GE chip. Let the buyer beware!

[gi.do]

Hi,

Ik just bough the Xoro HSD400 Pro player (120€, Netherlands).
Quite impressed. The player uses the MT1389DE chip.
It also has got a lot of outputs like VGA and DD5.1 analoge outputs.

Because I wanted to know the chip xoro uses I opened it up and took some photo's of it. Chech these out ;-)

Front of the player:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/gjonk/hsd/front.jpg

Back of the player:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/gjonk/hsd/rear.jpg

The Inside:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/gjonk/hsd/inside.jpg

The Mainprint with MT1389DE chip:
http://home.wanadoo.nl/gjonk/hsd/mainprint.jpg


I also check the software on delivery:
Version: 05.00.02.08
SUB-VER: 04.03.01.03
8032: 05.00.02.08
Servo: 04.07.00.00
RISC: 05.00.02.08
DSP: 03.03.00.57

After the first sofware update (04.04.27):
SUB-VER: 04.04.01.07

Unforunately I am still waiting for the subtitle support. Perhaps
on the socond software update.

I noticed that he player plays some older divx 3 Low Motion files
out of sync:

DIVX3 Low Motion
VIDEO AUDIO SYNC
===============================
624x336 48Khz 128 Out of sync!
704x352 48Khz 128 GOOD SYNC
576x304 44.1 128 Out of sync!

Also some VCD's are running out of sync.
I hope these problems will be solved within the future software versions.

However I am really happy with it and it can only get better, so no worries here!

Greetings 2 all,
Guido.

[speed_X]

Great loooking payer gi.do!

Let us know how it works!:D

[mactop]

There is FW mod for Elta 8883 made by Abdul (thx!) that supports polish letters in srt file :)
Here you can read more(only in polish, sorry) (http://forum.divx.pl/viewtopic.php?t=10339)

[wim]

good to see neo player has been moved off EE into GE
(a little too late 4 me though!)
i think they are ALL GE versions and the sellers were just lying.
seems there has been a lot of false advertising going on here.
australians: i just got that neuneo copy, the zensonic. i posted some pics here (http://www.susanglenn-hume.com/wim/zensonic/). not certified but it plays most files, for such a bargain i still like it.

[SeeMoreDigital]

gi.do

How well does the VGA output work?

I wonder why they installed an analogue VGA output connector, instead of an digital DVI connector!

Either way it might be interesting to have some close-up photos of where it connects to the main circuit board.


Cheers

[oddball]

Has anyone managed to mod the firmware to display subtitles centred instead of off to the left? Or put an outline around the font?

[CruNcher]

could somebody with a open mt1389DE board check the connectors for the vga output like the ones shown in the picture above maybe we can get more info about the 2nd line on the MT1389DE chip so :)

@gi.do
what does the 2nd line on the chip reads most times it starts like
D0xx

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi CruNcher

All I can see is this: -

http://82.2.167.24/Uploaded_Files/Doom9_Forum_files/Chip.gif


Cheers

[oddball]

What's happening on the firmware modding front? Anyone have anymore info?

[gi.do]

Hi Folks,

To clear things up I made a few more pictures.
Numbers on the pictures are to give you a better view on where is what on the board. I'm affraid that it is not possible to add VGA support to players wich do not have that function standard. As you can see the pictures do not exacly give the needed information and it is likely that the different components within the chain for VGA support are also hard to resolve.

However, here are the pictures.
1= VGA connection at the back of the player
2= Connection from 1 to the main print
3= The MT1389DE chip

http://home.wanadoo.nl/gjonk/hsd/vga_connection.jpg

http://home.wanadoo.nl/gjonk/hsd/vga2.jpg

http://home.wanadoo.nl/gjonk/hsd/mt1389de.jpg

Soon I will let you know something about the quality of the VGA output and progressive scan supported by the unit, when I connect it to a beamer next week.

Greetz @ all ;-)

[glfinish]

After reading this long thread, I am confused about the state of "XVID B-frames" in MT1389-based players.
From my short experience:
- two conssecutive B-frames with packed bitstream 'feature', cause the player to skip BOTH frames ("high stuttering")
- two conssecutive B-frames with NO packed bitstream, cause the plaeyr not to play the second frame ("lower suttering, but not perfect")
- single B-frames are fine.
Is this indeed the "agreed wisdom"?
Was there any player that got one of these problems fixed by a firmware upgrade?
Is it a problem only in GE chips?

[Zhnujm]

bframes >1 with packet bitstream disabled work fine.
And its a problem with all versions of the chip.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
bframes >1 with packet bitstream disabled work fine.
And its a problem with all versions of the chip. Correct me if I'm wrong but that seems to be the norm for most players/chipsets!

At least generating encodes without packed bitstream makes it possible for you to make 'compliant' MP4 contained encodes :D

Arrrh MP4... can't wait ;)


Cheers

[Zhnujm]

With my elta 8882 (Sigma) Packet Bitstream had to be enabled to play correctly. But thats long ago, maybe that changed with a new firmware.
And for ESS it does not seems to care if it is enabled or not.
But maybe that also different with different firmware versions :D

[glfinish]

It is true that with bframes=2 and NO packed bitstream the playback is smoother than with packed bitstream, but I still see frame drops , compared to playback on the PC (with bframes=2 and without packed bitstream).
Can anyone confirm this observation?

[mactop]

Looks like that with fw update for 8883/A DTS decoding is ON through 5.1 analog output :)

[Mirko]

I need to remove macrovision on my amstrad dx 3016

help?

[kokoon]

ok girlies - whats goin on on the mt13x9 mailing list recently:

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi all,
In france we had the Lifetec LT7457 Divx player based on MT1389 chip.
Some people noticed on the down side of main PCB what looks like a serial interface with TXD, RXD and GND written near pads.
Do you have any info about a serial boot protocol or terminal ?
BR.
Sorry if my english is not so perfect.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi,
The 4 connector pins which are marked V,RXD,TXD,GNd are used to
connect a data cable using a serial cable to the computer to read
and load upgrade files onto the card.
Cheers!
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Spirits say about TX RX with MAX3232 3,3V interface:
115200bauds
Instructions :
New command : 00/10/20/02/2A/0B/21/55/22/55/23/00/28/F0
Product ID 1
Product ID 2
Read at xxyyzzH ww octets : 21/zz/22/yy/23/xx/25/ww/A4

Read/Write to adresse xxyyzzH ww octets : 21/zz/22/yy/23/xx/25/ww/24
and send the ww octets

Erasing : 26 Flash !!!!

Product ID 1 Entry : 00/10/20/02/2A/0B/21/55/22/55/23/00/28/90
Product ID 2 Entry : 20/06/21/55/22/55/23/00/28/90

DONT USE INSTRUCTION READ/WRITE AND ERASING
But after erasing the serial communication is ok ;-)
Bye
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
He is right. The serial cable you need to read and load data from the MTK board has MAX3232, with 3.3V interface. This cable works perfectly with the MTK tool.

While I also tried using RS232 cable but that did not work. I guess that’s due to the Voltage supply.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi,
MTK tool is the software which Mediatek provides along with the cable.
Also the card/cable has MAX3232 IC and 5 Capacitors of 100microF each, I guess.. and a 4-wire idc interface to connect to the board.
Their program works both for 1369 and 1379. I did not get to test it for 1389 as of yet.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mtktool works with MT1389. I confirm it.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

...

we'll see what happens next but it looks like theres a chance for us with broken 1389 players.

HOORAY!

oh, and - i can confirm that my elta 8883 has the mentioned pins.

[HungarianFalcon]

Just wanted to warn the Yamada 6600 owners among us that a new firmware was released yesterday.

The only obvious improvement is support for extended ASCII characters in Latin1 and Latin2 subtitles.

Get your copy at http://www.umax.de/cgi-bin/treiber.pl?DVD=Y6600&Scanner=0&OS=0&SCSI_Karte=0&DigiCam=0&Submit=Suchen+%2F+Search

[Sharro@Home]

Ascomtec (new website: http://www.blu-sens.com) has also published an update.

Will install it tomorrow.

All the best,

Sharro@
Home

[speed_X]

Originally posted by HungarianFalcon
Just wanted to warn the Yamada 6600 owners among us that a new firmware was released yesterday.

The only obvious improvement is support for extended ASCII characters in Latin1 and Latin2 subtitles.

Get your copy at http://www.umax.de/cgi-bin/treiber.pl?DVD=Y6600&Scanner=0&OS=0&SCSI_Karte=0&DigiCam=0&Submit=Suchen+%2F+Search

Hi all!

Thanks HF! I only wish Yamada would stop dragging its feet on the playback and compatibility fixes, it's taking forever!

[Pumpa]

How can i get SERVO version info from .BIN file ?

i have player H&B 3220 with this information

VER: 05.00.02.02
SUB-VER: 00.00.02.02
8032: 05.00.02.02
SERVO: 01.10.20.00
RISC: 05.00.02.02
DSP: 03.03.00.33

Which firmwares are compatible ? Thanks.

Pumpa

[divx118]

Another player with MT1389 GE chip

SEG DVX 438
http://www.veseg.de/ (company website)

VER: 05.00.02.02
SUB-VER: 00.00.00.01
8032: 05.00.02.02
SERVO: 01.11.00.00
RISC: 05.00.02.02
DSP: 03.04.00.33

I hope there will be a firmware release witch supports subtitle for divx
:)

[Kbonzo]

Tangent D-400 from Maplin UK

Version 05.00.02.02
SUB - VER 00.00.00.01
8032 05.00.02.02
Servo 05.08.01.00
RISC 05.00.02.02
DSP 03.03.00.33
Region Code 0


Setup 8888 to see the firmware details.

[pirates]

I know, this shouldn't be here, but you might be interested...
(sorry for my bad english)

MediaTek bought 19% of ALi (his competitor in chipset production) from Acer, which has after this tranaction only 8.5% of ALi shares left.

Last year MediaTek produced 28.3% of chipsets for optical drives and ALi produced 5.4%. The rest is being produced by Sanyo, NEC, Toshiba and Philips). On the one chip DVD market holds MediaTek 57% of the market and ALi 8.5%.

It is still not clear, what plans MediaTek with this aquisition.

[pirates]

hi !

there's a modified firmware based on the official release 5.0.3.5_2 available on a slovakian guy's homepage.

the modifications include:

- full Windows CP 1250 support for subtitles (interesting for many eastern european languages)
- narrower 'space' character.
- ampersand character missing in original fw added
- elta logo replaced with a nicer one

the new background picture:

http://etchie.szm.sk/logonew.jpg

the CP 1250 reference page on microsoft's web (http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/reference/sbcs/1250.htm)

the modified firmware is available for both the elta 8883 MP4 and the elta 8883A MP4.

so, if you're interested, then go to Etchie's firmware page (http://etchie.szm.sk/firmware.html).

although these firmwares are fully functional and tested, you should keep in mind, that you use the firmwares on your own risk and in case of any problems you are not protected by the manufacturer's guarantee.

[oddball]

Any idea if this fixes the problem with subtitles not being centered? Would also like to see subtitles have an outline or color. Any idea if they know if they can fix the XviD playback issues yet?

[pirates]

Originally posted by oddball
Any idea if this fixes the problem with subtitles not being centered? Would also like to see subtitles have an outline or color. Any idea if they know if they can fix the XviD playback issues yet?

nope. Etchie's firmware version does not implement any changes to the functionality yet. he's been working only on localisation for Eastern European languages by now.

he plans to do something with the subtitle outlining, because it is obvious that the player has these routines implemented (see status messages of the player), but he's in need of any further information on the firmware available. so, if anyone has any relevant info on this, please let me know.

bye,
peter

[SeeMoreDigital]

Can you guys please confirm which MT players can cope with consecutive B-VOP. With or without packed bit-stream?


Cheers

[Zhnujm]

My elta 8883 and Xoro 311pro work fine with more than 1 bframe if packed bitstream is disabled.


Btw, i succesfully created the interface mentioned above to connect the player to pc serial port.
So i could flash my elta-with-xoro-firmware-wich-cannot-read-any-disc back with the original firmware. :)

Here is a picture (dont laugh):
ftp://zhnujm.dyndns.org/interface.jpg

[SeeMoreDigital]

Who's laughing... what a great idea and solution for flashing firmware between units :D

http://82.2.167.24/Uploaded_Files/Doom9_Forum_files/Zhnujm_interface.jpg

So the Elta player is working OK now?

Is this the Elta player in the picture? If so, there's not much in them is there!

Please refresh my memory. Is the Xoro 311pro firmware, the firmware that can detect anamorphic AVI's?


Cheers

[Zhnujm]

Thanks for hosting the pic. :) I still only have ftp running.

The elta is ok now. The mainboard is under the dvd drive, the cable between the board and the read head is so short that you cannot place it elsewhere.

Until now i tried following firmwares with anamorphic support:
Ascomtec 3004
Amstrad 3016
Beta firmware for Xoro 400pro

All support subtitles and the AR setting.
Now i can also check the elta firmware, it should also work.

[Mirko]

HELP!

For amstrad dx3016 and MKT TOOL owners

Try this elta 8883 and elta 8883A firmware with Amstrad DX3016
(support code page 1250)
http://etchie.szm.sk/firmware.html


made MTK tool:
http://amstrad3016.altervista.org/interfaccia.htm


And Best page for Amstrad DX3016
http://amstrad3016.altervista.org/

[Mirko]

From Etchie E-mail :(guy who made new firmware for elta 8883 with subtitle support CODE PAGE 1250 )
*****
Etchie: some guy from my country has reported that my 8883A update works in Amstrad 3016. I never tested it 'cause I do not own any Amstrad.

What you think guy's???

[Zhnujm]

All i can say is that with my elta 8883 (without A) the dx3016 5.00.01.07 version did work and the dx3016 5.00.03.06 version did NOT work (cannot read any cd/dvd).

[oddball]

Waiting for someone to fix the subtitle centering, font outline and packed bitstream etc XviD probs on 8883 ;)

[Zhnujm]

I can give you an outlined font for the filelist display but i think that wont help much :D

[CruNcher]

Zhnujm very nice you build the JTAG cable :) im still on it to bring my player back2life ;)
i think a tutor of what you need and build steps would be nice for all not so knowledgeable users here :)

[Pulver]

Yepp - I agree

I´m also constructing one now and I´m rather confused.

I do however have all the needed parts and will hopefully have a working cable before the end of the day.

But a simple clear guide (in english) with basic cheap parts would be very useful since there seems to be quite easy to "kill" your player.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by CruNcher
Zhnujm very nice you build the JTAG cable :) im still on it to bring my player back2life ;)
i think a tutor of what you need and build steps would be nice for all not so knowledgeable users here :) I'll be happy to host it on my website for you together with any pictures etc.

Now, I think it's about time we had some moderators in this section of the forum. And I'm nominating CruNcher and Zhnujm. If they're up to the task?

Are there any seconds?


Cheers

[Torment]

Firmware:

Denver 438 Update 2.06
---------
Version = 05.00.02.06
Sub-Version = 53.06.00.07
8032 = 05.00.02.06
Servo = 01.07.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.06
DSP = 03.03.00.36


This new Fw support Subtitles.

[speed_X]

Yep, I second the motion.

[Pulver]

I have also succesfully created the cable and flashed my player - the cable looks horrible (ghetto-mod) - but it works!

(Zhnujms solution looks professional compared to mine ;) )

There is of course this guide:

http://amstrad3016.altervista.org/interfaccia.htm

(Use Babelfish (http://babelfish.altavista.com/) Italien - English)

However - his method is rather "complicated" ;)

I got it working using the following picture:

ftp://194.184.110.46/download/INTERFACE-MT1389.jpg (slow server)

And I payed less than 10€ for the parts.

However - I´m not a good tutorial writer, someone else ?

[Zhnujm]

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Now, I think it's about time we had some moderators in this section of the forum. And I'm nominating CruNcher and Zhnujm.


I really dont know if thats a good idea :D

Originally posted by Pulver
(Zhnujms solution looks professional compared to mine ;) )


If thats true i would like to see a picture from that :D

I also used the info from this page:
http://amstrad3016.altervista.org/downloads.htm
There you can also download MtkTool wich is needed to flash your player. Seems it does not work with all types of flash memory, at least one type does not work.

The only parts i used was this:
MAX3232 IC: link (http://technik.gelago.de/cat2426/Elektronik/Bauelemente/Aktive-Bauelemente/ICs/Schnittstellen-Bausteine-RS-232/itemADmAvY/MAX-3232-CPE-16-DIP/)
4 capacitors 0.1uF: **link removed** (try to post a new)
a few cables (extracted from an old IDE cable) and an old RS232 cable

Heres a picture from the interface (same as Pulver used):
ftp://zhnujm.dyndns.org/interface/INTERFACE-MT1389.jpg
(the "open ends" of the 2 capacitors are connected to gnd (pin15), the middle shows the MAX3232 IC)

Picture from the MAX3232 IC (Top View):
ftp://zhnujm.dyndns.org/interface/MAX3232.jpg
(the chip is marked on the top side)

And from the RS232 Port:
ftp://zhnujm.dyndns.org/interface/rs232.jpg
(beware its a picture from the plug on your pc, not from the cable)

The connectors on the motherboard of the player can easily be found, they are even properly labeled.

So all you have to do is connect the capacitors and the cables to the right pins of the RS3232 IC (they are all numbered) and then it should work :)

[Pulver]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
If thats true i would like to see a picture from that :D

Well - you asked for it ;)

http://goto.glocalnet.net/diverse/ghetto.jpg

[m99]

Found a link to this on a forum somewhere, downloading it now. Is it any good for testing divx-capabilities?

http://www.horgi.mtu.ru/DivXTestCD.zip

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by m99
Found a link to this on a forum somewhere, downloading it now. Is it any good for testing divx-capabilities? Well it might be OK. But DivX's version of Mpeg4 is a little behind the time when it comes to ASP features.

DivX does not offer multiple B-VOP and it's 1WP-GMC is next to useless.

Also it's decoder doesn't offer anamorphic encoding, which some MT players can now display!

Personally I would not bother downloading it!

EDIT: Pulver..... Nice floor :)


Cheers

[Zhnujm]

@Pulver:
Looks very good ;)

@m99:
You can download a decription of this testcd here:
ftp://zhnujm.dyndns.org/TestCDeng.txt
Its a bit old now, Xvid 1.0 tests are not included, only version before 1.0, no subtitle tests.
It contains test for gmc,bframes,qpel, different audio codecs, dual audio,different resolutions, high bitrate.

Originally posted by SeeMoreDigital
Personally I would not bother downloading it!


Everbody should download it, i created it in my early DivX Player days :D:D
A simple testcd was useful because so many people were complaining why this or that file (mostly downloaded stuff with horrible types of audio/video codecs and muxing variants :rolleyes: ) did not work with this or that player. I thought it was a bit unfair to make the players responsible for every not playable file so some test files were needed.
But its really a bit outdated now.

[m99]

OK, thx.

Is there some collection of newer files I can download somewhere? I know there is some newly encoded files here and there, but has someone collected the most essential ones?

[danstoica]

I have dvd player Malata DVP-610 (AC-3�APICTURE-CD ,HDCD ,DVD-AUDIO ,MPEG�|4,VCD ,VCD ,MP3 ,CD ,CD-R ,CD-RW ,WMA ,DIVX ,XVID), for the movies in divx format i don`t see subtitles.
The player is based on MTK (MT 1389 FE)procesor.
where i find firmware ?

Actual version is:
Version 05.00.02.02
SUB-VER 00.0B.00.03
8032 05.00.02.02
Servo 01.10.20.00
Risc 05.00.02.02
DSP 03.04.00.23
Region Code 0

[kokoon]

from the slo-tech forums:

apparently there's a russian 1389-based player "4TUNE MP-151" that supports centered and outlined subtitles.
link here (http://www.ixbt.com/dvd/4tune-mp151.shtml) translated link here (http://webtranslation.paralink.com/webtarget.asp?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ixbt.com%2Fdvd%2F4tune-mp151.shtml&dir=ru%2Fen)


Also we have tested a player on a number of disks from our collection. All purchased DivX-CDs were reproduced by a player very well. Unfortunately, the disks made by us it is independent, to a player have not liked – a sound and images podtormazhivali and twitched. Probably, it is connected to installations Audio/Video Interleaving which we used at coding videofiles. At playing MPEG-4-ôàéëîâ any information on a file it is not deduced, to reach yes the necessary place in a file it is possible with the help of the accelerated rewind or at once to proceed to necessary time - to press button TIME and to enter a time-code. If in a file is present two sound tracks it is possible to be switched by button LANGUAGE between them. The fresh version of an insertion provides loading subtitles in format SRT:
http://www.ixbt.com/dvd/4tune/mp-151/rus_subtitle_divx.jpg

also in this thread (http://forum.divx.pl/viewtopic?t=11042) they say that "Our best polish developers are working on it" (on adaptation of the mentioned player's firmware)

maybe we'll get there once.

while i'm here let me as another question - why is it that my elta8883 (btw which i fixed by building and using the serial interface, similar to the 2 showed in this thread) cannot play back correctly the .avi that gspot tells about:
-----------------------------
4CC: xvid
Bitrate: 916 kb/s
FPS: 25.000
Qf: 0.119 bits/pixel
-----------------------------
it has 2 audio streams, 1. 128 kb/s, 2. 80 kb/s
what should i use to get more info about video stream?

elta plays back this very chunky and then eventually freezes (really bad)

thanks guys.

[wim]

australians: here's one to add to the FE chipset list
zensonic (http://www.zensonic.com/) z330

with the v1.1 firmware upgrade, this player gets subtitle support (.srt, .sub, .smi and .ssa...albeit buggy) and OSD timer OFF by default (yay)

finally a half-decent standalone in this country! for some more pictures, clickey clicky (http://www.susanglenn-hume.com/wim/zensonic/)

http://www.susanglenn-hume.com/wim/zensonic/z08.jpg

[kokoon]

subtitle support (.srt, .sub, .smi and .ssa...albeit buggy)
are you 100% sure about that?

[kokoon]

from the official zensonic support page:
----------------------------------
Changes for version 1.1 (from 1.0)
----------------------------------

1.) Zoom icon goes off.

2.) OSD timer off by default.

3.) .srt, .sub, .smi and .ssa subtitle support
- filenames must be the same (e.g. movie.avi movie.srt),
- the player will auto load the subtitle file, and you can switch it off / on with the subtitle button on the remote control.
- (note there is a limitation on the maximum length of the subtitles, some lengthy 2 line subtitles may have the ends truncated)


4.) up to 8 embedded divx subtitles are working

5.) better support for some .avi files (a/v synch etc)
please confirm that the player can play .sub and .smi subtitles

[wim]

kokoon: i have personally tried .srt and .sub and yeah they work - this is of course microdvd format .sub we're talking about here (text), not vobsub .sub (bitmap)

sorry, don't have any .smi files to test and never heard of/come across that format

[The Rabbit]

Originally posted by wim
kokoon: i have personally tried .srt and .sub and yeah they work - this is of course microdvd format .sub we're talking about here (text), not vobsub .sub (bitmap)

sorry, don't have any .smi files to test and never heard of/come across that format

Could you also try VobSub .sub/.idx? Maybe it also works?

[Leak]

Originally posted by The Rabbit
Could you also try VobSub .sub/.idx? Maybe it also works?

Well, the problem here might be that while all those players are able to play such subs from a DVD that's mainly because the subs are directly muxed into the video stream, i.e. it doesn't need to seek around for the subs, while external subs will only work well if they're small enough to fully fit into the player's memory; you surely wouldn't want the video to stall because the player is seeking around on the disc to load a subtitle bitmap, right?

np: Bigg Jus - I Triceratops (Black Mamba Serums v1.0)

[wim]

you're right. makes me wonder whether there's a way (or a hack) to mux a .sub bitmap stream into the .avi container. if so, should be no theoretical difficulty in playing these on current hardware

[wim]

Originally posted by The Rabbit
Could you also try VobSub .sub/.idx? Maybe it also works?

well, i tried it for you but was 99% sure it would not be supported. i'm very surprised.

i have not figured out how large the .sub file can get before it crashes the player. the one i tested was about 3 meg (english stream from 'the pianist')

please note: it does not work with an .idx/.rar, you need to have an uncompressed .sub (although this could be a firmware idea - i believe rarsoft make unrar.dll publicly available for developers?)

i have not been able to figure out a way to switch subtitle stream within the .sub file, it just displays the first stream.

LATER: just tried a 7 meg .sub file (english stream for 12 monkeys)
still working like a charm. i'd recently given up hoping for that ideal player to come around, but seems like this one could be a possibility - just need to get that unrar.dll on there :cool:

[The Rabbit]

Originally posted by wim
i have not been able to figure out a way to switch subtitle stream within the .sub file, it just displays the first stream.


Do you have the .ifo file there? I know there's subtitle stream number information inside it. Maybe the player needs it to know the stream number?

[wim]

yes, .ifo file was there

[QQ]

greetings,

i have this problem with my Xoro HSD 400 Pro player:

whenever i switch it on, the picture which appears, takes up
whole screen for a moment, but then switches to letterbox immediately.
what i mean is that it doesnt take up full screen anymore, but has black
bars on top and bottom. besides, theres a white line in the top black bar..
now, if i start playing a video, it's height isn't what it should be, but smaller..

i found a fix for that: if i go to setup, video setup, component output, and change
anything there, then screen flashes, and all is back to normal again - the default
picture takes up full screen, and videos work fine too. but i don't like doing
this every time! it's a bug..

any ideas?

p.s. i'm using SCART connector..

[Zhnujm]

Sounds like your player is set to 16:9 and you are using a 4:3 tv.
You should set the player to 4:3 letterbox or 4:3 pan&scan in the setup menu.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi Zhnujm,

Totally off topic! Any thought of starting an "ESS Based Player Information" thread?


Cheers

[QQ]

Zhnujm, i tried all different options there.. it doesnt change anything.. once i turn it off and back on, the same scenario repeats =(

[Mr Whippy]

QQ, it could also be auto-switching widescreen mode (since you're using SCART, which has widescreen signal switch) change your TV ratio from AUTO to manual aspect modes (wide, 4:3, stretch etc)

[QQ]

where do i change that?

[Mr Whippy]

Read the manual, it should have a ratio button the remote.

Anyway this sort of question is in the wrong forum. Nowt to do with MTK players.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by QQ
greetings,

i have this problem with my Xoro HSD 400 Pro player Do all these players use the MT chip-set? I thought they used ESS!

Can somebody here "lift the lid" from their player and check?


Cheers

[QQ]

the Pro model uses MTK. Plus model uses ESS. Not sure how is this off-topic then..

and yes, as i've said, i've tried changing it in setup, but it didn't help..

[Zhnujm]

Seems like the player is sending a 16:9 signal trough the scart connector even if you set it to 4:3. That should never happen.
The "white line" at the top of the picture is typical for a 4:3 TV in 16:9 mode.
Your tv should have a button on the remote to switch it back to 4:3, but that does not solve the real problem.
Maybe the player is just defective ?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by QQ
the Pro model uses MTK. Plus model uses ESS. Not sure how is this off-topic then.. How bizarre!

But a very useful clarification none the less!

Maybe this MT player is one of those that can be upgraded to decode Mpeg4 .AVI's with anamorphic signalling?


Cheers

[Zhnujm]

Well, the Xoro model numbers are a bit confusing, theres a 400 with a very old ess chipset, a 400plus with a newer ess chip, then the 400pro with mediatek chip.
And of course the 311 with ess chipset and the 311pro with mediatek.

The beta firmware for the 400pro (wich does until now only work with newer 400pro models) does support avi with anamorphic signalling.
I flashed this firmware to my 311pro to check this. ;)

@SeeMoreDigital
Btw, you already know the new players with Zoran chipset ?
Maybe a new chance for mp4 playback ;)
But still no Xvid+GMC :rolleyes:
I think im trying to get the Samsung 745 with this chipset, looks promising.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
The beta firmware for the 400pro (wich does until now only work with newer 400pro models) does support avi with anamorphic signalling.
I flashed this firmware to my 311pro to check this. ;) This has got to be good news for every MT player owner that can make use of the upgrade!

Originally posted by Zhnujm
@SeeMoreDigital
Btw, you already know the new players with Zoran chipset ?
Maybe a new chance for mp4 playback ;)
But still no Xvid+GMC :rolleyes:
I think im trying to get the Samsung 745 with this chipset, looks promising. A Zoran chip-set eh!

Where has this manufacturer sprung from?


heers

[vaprof]

Hello,

I bougth from Austria a PRO2 MD-42068 (powered by MEDION) player with
DIVX/MPEG4 capabilities.
The firmware is:
Version 05.00.02.02
Subver 00.00.00.01
8032 05.00.02.02
RISc 05.00.02.02
DSR 03.03.00.33
Region code 0
Please let me know if it's possible to see DivX/Xvid movies with
subtitles.

Thank you!

[QQ]

you were right! i tried connecting it with rca connector, and it doesnt do that. is my tv faulty? is there any way i could fix that? i think i heard that rca connection gives worse quality than scart(rgb) or component..

[bigbrickz]

Also purchased the Medion :

Code in setup: 8888

ver. 05.00.02.02
sub-ver 00.00.00.01
8032 05.00.02.02
Serv 18.04.00.00
Risc 05.00.02.02
Dsp 03.03.00.33
region 2


I popped it open to check on the chipset, however it has a heatsink stuck on top. The board appears identical to that of the 4Tune MP-151 (http://www.synco.ru/images/DSCF0619.JPG), which has an MT1389FE chipset.

This spanish forum has a couple of detailed tests:
http://www.forodivx.com/showthread/t-34972.html
http://www.forodivx.com/showthread/t-34987.html

They say that it doesn't support subtitles. Haven't got 'round to testing that myself yet, though I have seen a post from Medion (http://forum.speier.hu/index.php?showtopic=92&st=45) claiming that it does support subtitles.


My biggest issue by far with the player is that mine is locked to region 2 and no code has been published yet (anyone have any ideas?). It appears that some of these players are sold region free and others not. (http://www.dvd-headquarters.de/dvdhqforum/view.php?bn=dvdhq_dvdforum2&key=1090858052) Mine was from Media Markt.

[Mr Whippy]

See page 20 of the Zensonic Z300/Z330 manual. It's got the instructions to change region.

http://www.zensonic.com/support.php

It should work for yours too.

[bigbrickz]

Thanks for the tip, but that doesn't work (I've included the hack below for the record).

If I enter 8888 on the preference setup page I do get the "region code window" but no way I can find to adjust it.

I've tried all the MT1389 region hacks I could find + all the previous generation Medion hacks and no luck so far.

One possible issue is that the Medion 42068 remote doesn't have a "Clear" button, often used on MT1389 hacks.

---------

Zensonic Z330 :
Go to the Preference setup page.
Press 1006.
The region code adjust window will show up. Use left /right cursor button to adjust region code (0—
region code free, 1—6 region code 1—6), PLAY/ENTER to confirm the change.

[Appex]

There is one more player based on a MT1389 chip (they don't say what version), called E-BODA 555X (Romanian). Firmware version:

Versiune: 05.00.03.05
SUB-VER: 00.00.00.01
8032: 05.00.03.05
Servo: 02.11.00.00
RISC: 05.00.03.05
DSP: 03.03.00.96

Subtitles are OK; they are upgrading the firmware constantly.(http://www.e-boda.ro/produse/dvd/dvd_555x_upgrade.html)

[Alexander Maxim]

Originally posted by Appex
There is one more player based on a MT1389 chip (they don't say what version), called E-BODA 555X (Romanian). Firmware version:

Versiune: 05.00.03.05
SUB-VER: 00.00.00.01
8032: 05.00.03.05
Servo: 02.11.00.00
RISC: 05.00.03.05
DSP: 03.03.00.96

Subtitles are OK; they are upgrading the firmware constantly.(http://www.e-boda.ro/produse/dvd/dvd_555x_upgrade.html)
The chip is MT1389GE (I asked them myself on the phone)

[Mtz]

Originally posted by Alexander Maxim
The chip is MT1389GE (I asked them myself on the phone)

Only the first units was made with GE. From august are with DE.
I have one at home and is with this chipset:
MT1389DE
0409-BWB
DORY3

enjoy,
Mtz

[Alexander Maxim]

Originally posted by Mtz
Only the first units was made with GE. From august are with DE.
I have one at home and is with this chipset:
MT1389DE
0409-BWB
DORY3

enjoy,
Mtz
Hello Mtz,
Thanx for the good news! (and for the subtitles ;) )
I might consider buying it now, since it has the best support for romanian subtitles, thanx to you and the others we know ;)
Thank you one more time and keep up the good work! :)

[Zhnujm]

New firmware for Yamaha 550 (1389EE) is out, now with subtitles (srt,smi,ssa,sub,...). Subs are big and centered, up to 3 lines with many chars but still no outline.
And theres support for AR settings in AVI.

[Sharro@Home]

Originally posted by Zhnujm
New firmware for Yamaha 550 (1389EE) is out, now with subtitles (srt,smi,ssa,sub,...). Subs are big and centered, up to 3 lines with many chars but still no outline.
And theres support for AR settings in AVI.

Those are good news.

Any idea if it's compatible with Philips DVP720SA ?

All the best

Sharro

[Zhnujm]

Dont know. I already tried the Philips firmware with the Yamaha and it seemed to work, but after i switched it off for a while the player does not start anymore. It just shows Philips in the display and goes to standby. No way to insert a cd or flash it back without the serial interface.
So i dont think its a good idea to try it without having such an interface.

[tarambuka3500]

there are 3 Bulgarian players, based on DE chipset:

Elite DHT-370X
Elite DHT-377X
Elite DHT-388X

see here (http://www.elite.bg/bg/home_video/index.htm)
3 are equal inside, only the 'boxes' are different.

[pirates]

hi !

according to this website (http://divxtest.surdvd.com/article.php3?id_article=58) (in french), the MediaTek 1389 based players won't have problems playing back files encoded with DivX 6

[QQ]

any chance for Xoro HSD 400 Pro to support Nero Digital?

thank you

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by QQ
any chance for Xoro HSD 400 Pro to support Nero Digital?

thank you Nope I'm afraid

For starters, none of MediaTek's MT1389xx chip-sets support AAC audio!


Cheers

[QQ]

well they updated HSD 310 and HSD 415 to support Nero, so I'm not sure why wouldnt they update HSD 400 :/

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by QQ
well they updated HSD 310 and HSD 415 to support Nero, so I'm not sure why wouldnt they update HSD 400 :/ Both of these players are fitted with an ESS Vibratto II chip-set... As mentioned here: -

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=82765

EDIT: And here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&postid=623741#post623741)!


Cheers

[QQ]

damn, so even though they are older, they happen to support more :(

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by QQ
damn, so even though they are older, they happen to support more :( This is why some of us got rather excited when the ESS Vibratto II chip-set was launched... As it was possible to see from its specification that it was capable of supporting AAC audio - which is usually placed within the .MP4 container.

However, when Philips launched players with .MP4 container support but without AAC audio, everything got rather confusing!


Cheers

[QQ]

Hmm, according to latest d9 news, mediatek 1389 will support nero digital? *confused*

[SeeMoreDigital]

I suppose it all is a little confusing. As it would seem MediaTek's MT1389xx range of chip-sets are able to support AAC audio after-all.

In reality, I wonder whether their entire range of MT1389xx chip-sets can be upgraded or just the last few?

But although this is great news for us fans of AAC audio and the .MP4 container, I guess it will be up to individual player manufacturers to decide whether they can be bothered to include it as a firmware release!

The NeroDigital team must be dancing down the office corridors.... as all four major chip-set manufacturers appear to now have chip-sets capable of supporting their product :)


Cheers

[QQ]

im not completely up to it, as I havent really used Nero Digital yet, but surely it's more than just AAC audio and MP4 container? (i mean, I don't really care about those two, my main concern is video;p)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by QQ
im not completely up to it, as I havent really used Nero Digital yet, but surely it's more than just AAC audio and MP4 container? (i mean, I don't really care about those two, my main concern is video;p) Yes and no!

NeroDigital (as generated using Recode2) primarily supports the .MP4 container and AAC audio "only". So any stand-alone player manufacturer who wishes to incorporate NeroDigital Certification, will have to support both.


Cheers

[QQ]

well, lets hope Xoro wont let us down :)

[zion302]

is the firmware inter-changable between different machines with same chipset? i have a Malata DVP-838 which MT1389FE inside. everyting has gone well except:

1/ OGG/OGM not supported (of course AAC/MP4 neither).
2/ Xvid with GMC > 1 not supported
3/ .srt subtitle - only english language supported.

Anybody know where and how to find firmware update to solve the above issues?

thx.

[zion302]

Originally posted by The Rabbit
Could you also try VobSub .sub/.idx? Maybe it also works?

It can be played on my Malata DVP-838 which also has a MT1389FE inside. I also managed to convert .srt (text format) to .sub/.idx to be able to play back, because the machine does not support .srt in languages other than english.

[QQ]

is it possible to see ending of filenames longer than X number of chars? i mean many of my videos have long file names, and if it shows only a beginning (which often is same), then it's impossible to chose a file without guessing :(

[QQ]

guess it's not..

does Xoro HSD 400 Pro support divx subtitles? I tried burning .srt yesterday, and it didnt show :(

[QQ]

my firmware versions:

ver 05.00.02.08
sub 04.04.00.01
8032 05.00.02.08
servo 05.03.00.00
risc 05.00.02.08
dsp 03.03.00.57

[westgroveg]

No picture of the chip, is that the chip?

http://people.freenet.de/Targa/festplatteneinbau.htm

[Brandtmarc]

Hey
Is there anybody in here with some knowledge about the Medion md40088, I think it's possibly also an MT1389xx based player. It has the exactly same menus as my Medion md7457 and also the same button sequences applies for checking the firmware version and region codes.
It has this written in the versions field:

Ver: 05.00.02.06
Subver:52.07.00.07
8032:05.00.02.06
Servo:02.11.00.00
Risc: 05.00.02.06
DSP: 03.03.00.36


Does any of this make any sense to you guys? I bought the player in Aldi in Denmark just recently, any other owners in here?
The dvd player also has an amplifier and a surround system incorporated in it.
I would really appreciate any help, because subtitles on divx movies are crucial to me :)

If it is a MT1389 player what firmware will i be able to use then?

[Brandtmarc]

Someone please reply if you have just a little clue for me?

[sapient]

For those of you living in Greece or possibly in the Balcans, Crypto, a greek manufacturer, started selling a MT1389DE based player in the greek market recently. It is called DVD 320 and it is the only MT1389 based player available in the greek market as far as I know. Its' price is around 75 euros. I 'll let you know more as soon as I get one.

sapient

[potato666]

just bought an electrohome 500e. there is a mt1389qe chip inside. anyone ever of it.

[gurri]

iF YOU LIVE IN SPAIN you can buy the Rainbow DVDVX Luxview Player Mediatek1389FE
(aka: 5820 model)
http://www.rainbowonline.net/productos-en.php?codigo=5820&familia=7&subfamilia=19
MTK 1389FE, Two usb ports (usb2 ¿? ) and "karaoke"
Can play directly from your USB device (USB flash disk, USB external hard disk, USB card reader......

well, playing directly from usb hard disk with some minor problems on higher bitrate divx´s

nov-2006
manufacturer confirmed (email) luxview player is in fact usb1.1 (usb2 compatible)