MT1389xx Based Player Information

[CruNcher]

ChipsRev/Players
-----------------
DivX Certified MT1389DE = Elta 8883,Amstrad 3016dx,Irradio Dvx 103,Ascomtec DVD-3004,
Rimax NEW, Scott 842, Lenco DVD-37 Mpeg 4, Yamada DVX6600
DivX Certified MT1389EE =
DivX Certified MT1389FE = Peekton 6003,Atacom DV967
Not Certified PreChip/Buggy MT1389GE = Gran Prix,Lifetec 7457,Medion 7457,Nevir 2046,NeoDigits NeuNeo
Transcontinent TR-100,,Dual 800,Ansonic dixh-ht10,DK Digital DVD-339
DivX Certified MT1389SE =


Firmware:

Elta 8883 (Germany) 1st update
---------
Version = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.06 00.00.00.01
8032 = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.05.01.00 01.07.00.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.14 03.03.00.23

More Player Info (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=66108)

Amstrad 3016dx (Italy)
--------------- 1st Update
VERSION = 05.00.01.06 05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.?? 00.00.01.06
8032 = 05.00.01.06 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.14 03.03.00.33

Irradio Dvx 103 (Italy)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06
DSP = 03.03.00.14

Gran Prix/Silva DVD 404-divx (Austria)
-----------------------------
Version = 05.00.00.09
Sub-Version = 54.03.00.02
8032 = 05.00.00.09
Servo = 02.04.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09
DSP = 03.03.00.08

More Player Info (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65648)

Lifetec 7457 (France)
---------------
Version = 05.00.00.09
Sub-Version = 4D.01.00.05
8032 = 05.00.00.09
Servo = 02.04.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09
DSP = 03.03.00.08


Medion 7457 (Germany,Denmark) 1st update
---------------
Version = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.04
Sub-Version = 4D.00.00.09 4D.00.01.00
8032 = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.04
Servo = 02.04.00.00 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.05
DSP = 03.03.00.08 03.03.00.35

More Player Info (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67066)

Dual 800 (Germany)
---------------
Version = 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 54.0D.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 07.02.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

Ascomtek DVD-3004 (Spain) 1st update
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.?? 05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.?? 00.00.01.01
8032 = ??.??.??.?? 05.00.01.06
Servo = ??.??.??.?? 01.05.01.00
RISC = ??.??.??.?? 05.00.02.02
DSP = ??.??.??.?? 03.03.00.23

More Player Info (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=65884)

Ascomtek DVD-3006 (Spain) 1st update
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.?? ??.??.??.??

Nevir 2046 (Spain) 1st update
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.?? 54.07.00.01
8032 = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.02
Servo = 02.04.00.00 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.08 03.03.00.23

Addnew AN-DivX600 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Arlink MP-530 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Gowell Divx-888 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

BBK DV967 (Asia)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Auvion SL-801K (Germany)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Transcontinent TR-100 (France) 1st update
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.01.07 05.00.02.06
SUB-VERSION = 54.00.00.07 54.09.00.03
8032 = 05.00.01.07 05.00.02.06
Servo = 02.06.00.00 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.06
DSP = 03.03.00.14 03.03.00.36

Keyplug 4810 (France)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Atacom DV967 (France)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Peekton 6003 (France)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.01.07
SUB-VERSION = 00.00.00.01
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = 01.06.00.00
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Technika T1000D (France)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = 54.08.00.02
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 02.06.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

Wilson DM1000D (France)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = 54.0A.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 07.02.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

LaFayette DV967 (US/UK ?)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Rimax NEW (UK) 1st update
---------------
Version = 05.00.01.06 05.00.01.06
Sub-Version = 00.00.01.06 00.00.01.06
8032 = 05.00.01.06 05.00.01.06
Servo = 01.05.01.00 01.05.01.00
RISC = 05.00.01.06 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.14 03.03.00.23

Yamada DVX6600 (Europe)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.03
SUB-VERSION = 0B.00.00.02
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

NeoDigits NeuNeo Mpeg4 DVD (US)
---------------
VERSION = ??.??.??.??
SUB-VERSION = ??.??.??.??
8032 = ??.??.??.??
Servo = ??.??.??.??
RISC = ??.??.??.??
DSP = ??.??.??.??

Scott 842
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VERSION = 00.00.02.02
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.10.20.00
Risc = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

Ansonic dixh-ht10 (Spain)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.06
SUB-VERSION = 64.47.00.02
8032 = 05.00.02.06
Servo = 02.06.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.06
DSP = 03.03.00.36

DK Digital DVD-339 (UK)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.04
SUB-VERSION = 44.01.00.03
8032 = 05.00.02.04
Servo = 02.06.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.05
DSP = 03.03.00.35

Lenco DVD-37 Mpeg 4 (Germany,Netherlands)
---------------
VERSION = 05.00.02.02
SUB-VER = 00.00.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.10.00.00
Risc = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

Tests

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Gran Prix/Silva DVD 404-divx


XviD Aloha Gran/Prix MediaTek 1389GE Chip Results

ASP features:

B-frames <- WORKS Perfect
Qpel <- WORKS Perfect
GMC 3 Warp Point <- Problems (slow playback see below)

Matrices:
H263 <- WORKS Perfect
MPEG <- WORKS Perfect
HVS <- WORKS Perfect

Upsampling (Bleeding Colors) <- No Problems

Test Videos:

b-frames(2).avi (640x272) 550 kbps <- WORKS Perfect
extreme1.avi (640x346 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) 2.7 Mbit CBR <- WORKS Perfect
extreme1.avi (640x346 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 Mp3 128 Abr) 2.7 Mbit CBR <- WORKS Perfect
level5.avi (640x346 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) ~1.5 Mbit VBR <- WORKS Perfect
fullresvbr.avi (720x304 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) ~1.5 Mbit VBR <- WORKS Perfect
rmdfullres.avi (704x576 Qpel B-frames 1/1.50/1 no Sound) 4.8 Mbit CBR <- WORKS Perfect

gmc-h263.avi (640x272) <- slideshow
gmc-qpel-hvs.avi (640x272) <- jerky all the way picture every 5seconds
gmc-qpel-h263.avi (640x272) <- better then the one before still slideshow

used Source:

640x272 = Pearl Harbour Test Sequence Low Motion-High Motion (DVD)
640x346 = Matrix Reloaded Trailer (Sorenson 3 Ultra Trailer Resized) (Matroska Techdemo)
720x304 = Pearl Harbour Test Sequence Low Motion-High Motion (DVD)
704x576 = Romeo Must Die Trailer (DVD)

DivX 3.11 Gran/Prix MediaTek 1389GE Chip Results

smart bitrate controll intro (DivX 3.11 SBC 640x272 Mp3 160 kbps CBR) 1 Mbit <- WORKS Perfect
shaggy.avi (DivX 3.11 SBC 576x416 Mp3 192 kbps ABR) 1.3 Mbit <- WORKS Perfect
lenya.avi (DivX 3.11 SBC 512x304) Mp3 192 kbps VBR) 2.7 Mbit <- WORKS Perfect


Problems:
Desync from the beginning with CBR Mp3 muxed Movies (very old rips). (fixed latest firmware)
Speedup/Slowdown problems most probably overheating or EMF problems occouring randomly. (GE based Player)
Scaling wrong (not really that noticeable). (fixed latest firmware)
Packed Bitstream with more then 1 B-frames doesn't work

at least the CBR Mp3 problem and the Scaling probs seem to be fixed with the newest firmware for DE
and GE based player.

if you have more infos about the Chip (Specifications) Firmware or any other Info about coming players or Tests
please don't wait to post them :) Please be aware that these Players are in somekind of a Beta Status and
when you think about buying one you'll most likely buy a thing wich could be outdated really fast.

The Elta 8883 DE is Assembled different then the GE based Players the MT Chip lies beneath the loader and on the
others it's a the right site, could be an indication that the GE Chip has little heat problems as allready assumed here
by some french folks
http://tototeseb.9online.fr/onatester/liteon7457.htm

Warning: Most GE Based Player die after a Firmware update so be carefull even if you get the original
(btw the firmware is not done by the sellers it's done by MediaTek) This could also be the reason why
GE based Player most times are cheaper then DE Based Player for example. To my knowledge the
GE based assembly cost the sellers arround 40 € and are sold @ arround 80 € and the DE based player 60 €
and are sold @ 120 € i have no real confirmation for this values yet.

Announced GE Firmware: Atacom DV967,Nevir 2046 (2nd), Medion 7457 (2nd)
Announced DE Firmware: Elta 8883 (2nd (OGG),Yamada DVX6600 (OGG,AVI subs)

GE Chip Bugs: Speedup/Slowdown @ playback random problem (seems to be fixed with latest firmware !!)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hi CruNcher,

Thanks for posting such detailed info.

I can't remember anyone asking before but how good are these players at spinning RAW Mpeg1 and 2 encodes?

I gather, that a firmware upgrade is already available for the Elta 8883. Do you know if it's an official or unofficial upgrade?

Cheers

[monty0815]

Official enhancement list of firmware for elta 8883:

Modification:
• DVD/VCD/SVCD/CDDA/mp3/Divx4.x/5.x playback
• Divx3.11 support
• SRT/SSA/SMI divx subtitle support
• multi-language support(English,German,French,Italian,Spanish and
Russian)
• .jpeg,.jpe(for JPG file) and .divx(for divx file) extension
 > support 6) restore the value of setting(STOP+BWD+FWD) 7)OGG and WAV file playback

• WMA file playback
• Hot keys for setting DVD region code and
• 480P/576P/720P/1080i video output
• Auto DVD audio/subtitle selection
• Improved DivX 3.11 Codec
• PCM Audioformat in AVI-Files is supported


EDIT: Link removed! Don't update!

This article (http://www.golem.de/0312/28995.html) (german) also states ogg support.

Let's see if I can pluck up the courage to try this one on my Gran Prix.

@CruNcher: I haven't forgotten the DAR sample, I'll try it tomorrow

cu, monty

[SeeMoreDigital]

Hmm,

The firmware upgrade I found was not nearly as big as this. It comprised of an .doc file totalling 247KB and an MKT.BIN file totalling 1,015KB

Me thinks we have the makings of a couple of Moderators for this section of the forum..... About time too!

Cheers guys

[monty0815]

Just did a diff on the 2 firmware isos (the one for the 8882 and the other one for the 8883) and they are identical.
So I don't think it is the same as the the one which was released (unofficially?) two days ago.
Maybe the smaller one is far more hardware specific. Furthermore you had to call the UpdateCD MEDIATEK.

[SeeMoreDigital]

OK.

Although I have not, as yet, purchased one of these standalone players myself.

I would hate to think that some owners might be encouraged to upgrade their players with outdated/unofficial firmware!

Cheers

[monty0815]

Must be an error, it would probably destroy your player if you use the sigma update on a mediatek player.
According to another board elta has been informed of the mistake.

SO DON'T UPGRADE YOUR 8883!

[Zhnujm]

It was the firmware for the 8882, for the 8883 theres only the unoffical update.

[die_leuchte]

Official update will be back online tomorrow as golem wrote after talking with Elta Today!

[CruNcher]

DSP,8032,Servo and Risc updates come as it looks like directly from MediaTek.
the other enhancements are on a Sub-Level this is also indicated by the firmware marked as Sub-Version.
Firmware updates between the Gran Prix, Lifetec and the coming Medion should be the same (GE) only the Sub-Version will change (most likelie gui things) the question now are the decissions about what container support is made available also definable in these Sub-Version region (so Elta could change it with they Embedded Programmers "do they have such guys ??" or most likelie it is in the hands of MediaTek and ESS to integrate those capabilities on request ?
Problem now with the (GE) Chip could be that it was a Prototype Chip and that it's maybe not anymore working with (DE) updates so updating a (GE) chip based player with a (DE) Firmware could possibly lead to lose of functionality or "dissengaging" of the player if we dont get a statement on what the (GE) chip is "chips that getting to hot and fallen out of the production "DivX Certification" and sold for lower prices but still compatible with (DE) updates ?" i would not risk it maybe if i had a orginal firmware as backup.

Anyone has the Elta updated ? what does the Servo show in the updated firmware ?

[romravan]

Hallo,
I have an italian clone of Elta 8883, whose name is Amstrad 3016dx, it is different for active optical escape
firmaware is:
VERSION =05.00.01.06
SUB-VERSION =00.00.01.06
8032 =05.00.01.06
RISC =05.00.01.06
DSP =03.03.00.14
REGION FREE

its price is 99 euro......

you thoughts that are upgradable with firmaware elta...?

sorry for my bad english.....

[CruNcher]

that sounds good but this is only still a theory the other problem is we dont know yet how then Special OEM things like the Optical output are handled so if they are defined in the SUB-Version you could possibly lose that capability of your Player after an Elta firmware update. You could try it but you risking your Player if you do, but when nobody tries it we never find out i assume from you firmware that this Amstrad is a DE based Player ? And its clear that i take no resposibility for any damages this might cause and be aware even if it works you could lose the Optical output and then without a base firmware you can't get it back. Could you please also post your Servo version ?

[Doom9]

@cruncher: actually these Aldi players are DivX certified according to DXn.

[romravan]

Sorry I was distracted..,in the Amstrad dx3016 with MT1389DE
0343-AWS

Servo =01.05.01.00

http://www.quellicheilpc.com/forum/files/foto_01_.jpg

[Zhnujm]

The actual Firmware for the elta is this:

Version = 05.00.02.02
Sub-Version = 00.00.00.01
8032 = 05.00.02.02
Servo = 01.07.00.00
RISC = 05.00.02.02
DSP = 03.03.00.23

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by romravan
Sorry I was distracted..,in the Amstrad dx3016 with MT1389DE
0343-AWS

Servo =01.05.01.00

http://www.quellicheilpc.com/forum/files/foto_01_.jpg AMSTRAD!!!

Wow, Alan Sugar strikes again.

This player should be in UK stores soon.

Cheers

[CruNcher]

Doom9 their are many DivX Players gone arround on Aldi not only MediaTek based ones and to my knowledge (press Release MediaTek) only those Chips that listed above got certified even if i myself don't hold much from DXNs Certification that let suspect that this Chip has some uknown problems.

thx Zhnujm for the update

[Doom9]

@cruncher: I asked the DXn specifically about my Gran Prix player ;)

[Zhnujm]

btw, the firmware update that is mentioned in the news on the main page with subtitle/... support is not for the 8883, its for the 8882.

[Sorrow]

Are there any sites that will ship to the US? Or that are in english. ;) I'd love to get my hands on one of these.

S.

[CruNcher]

Doom9 hmm then maybe you could also ask DXN where the differences between those chips are and why MediaTek doesn't mention that the GE also got Certified in their press Release ?

[SeeMoreDigital]

Given that all these new players carry a MediaTek chipset. Do any of you guys think/wonder/know if the firmware upgrade for say, the Elta will suit say, the Gran Prix or the Medion!

It would appear they all share the same remote control and maybe even the same internal operating system/GUI layout!

Is this a reasonable question, or am I just wishful thinking?


Cheers

[amango]

I heard that Mediatek-based players does have problems with XVID if you are using more then ONE B-frame. Is that true, or was that problem already solved?

[Doom9]

@amango: your source is incorrect. That was a problem with older chipsets and even then could be solved by using the packed bistream option.

[Charbax2]

I got a Medion player, here are the stuff info it says:


Medion (Denmark)
---------------
Version = 05.00.00.09
Sub-Version = 4D.00.00.09
8032 = 05.00.00.09
Servo = 02.04.00.00
RISC = 05.00.00.09
DSP = 03.03.00.08



I seriously got AV-synch problems. And freezes.. so maybe elta firmware upgrades will work here also..

[CruNcher]

Charbax2 and SeeMoreDigital
please read on the first pages carefully what i think and what i fear
to sumon it up i belive that it would be to much of a time effort for MT to maintain a unique firmware for every one of those chips "selers", so they most probably will work on any of those chips without problems but that's not confirmed yet and someone still needs to risk his player todo so.

[shredness]

Two questions:

1.Are any MediaTek based DVD/DivX players available in the US?

and (more importantly)

2.Do DVD/DivX Players reading multiple encoded avi's on DVD+/-R/W?

TIA!!

[Doom9]

2.Do DVD/DivX Players reading multiple encoded avi's on DVD+/-R/W?
Most definitely.

[scifiguy]

There doesn't seem to be a lot of crosstalk about the player. How many here actually have one? Where would you purchase one if you wanted one?

[oddball]

Nothing in the UK yet then?

[Doom9]

@scifiguy: Which player are you talking about? There are quite a few of us who own one of those Aldi players (me included), and elta has agreed to send a 8883 over for testing after my codec comparison.

[scifiguy]

I was thinking about the Elta 8883. The capabilities seem pretty impressive - although the market is getting swamped now with new boxes from other manufacturers.

[oddball]

Swamped everywhere else but the UK that is! :(

[SeeMoreDigital]

Originally posted by oddball
Swamped everywhere else but the UK that is! :( Too Bloody True Mate!

[CruNcher]

Old europe RuleZ :rolleyes:
sorry had to get that out but doesn't belong here really just be pationed it will come sooner or later to your wonderfull island too :)

[SeeMoreDigital]

Well, I'm off to France and Germany for 10 days, starting from Dec28.

Maybe I might be able to pick up a player!

I wonder if they have 'sales' in euro land?

Cheers

[amango]

Originally posted by Doom9
@amango: your source is incorrect. That was a problem with older chipsets and even then could be solved by using the packed bistream option.

I have bought the new Medion-Player today. All my XVID encodings with 2 B-frames are stuttering almost the whole time. If I encode with "packed bitstream" there is no difference. Without B-Frames the videos are playing smooth. So it DOES have problems with B-frames. However it is a very nice player and I don't regret buying it, as it is much better than any ESS-based player I have seen yet.

[monty0815]

@amango
Are you sure you didn't use GMC too in those encodes?

[amango]

Of course! I never use GMC in my encodings. Only B-Frames, nothing more.

[CruNcher]

amango im about to test my Pearl Harbour encode stay tuned :)
no problems amango sorry but my encode works it uses 2 b-frames hvs matrix and qpel no problems.

[amango]

@cruncher

Which bitrate have you used? I usually have this problems with high-bitrate AVIs (2000 KBit and higher).

Which settings do you use for B-Frames? Can you list your whole settings for encoding this video you just finished?

I just encoded a 90 minutes-movie yesterday. The whole movie slows down after 5 minutes and playback becomes jerky. I just encoded a twenty-minute video out of the same movie, but without B-Frames. The playback is smooth all the time.

[Zhnujm]

I have had the same problems with xvid+bframes with my elta 8883 (even with only 1 bframe).
The firmware update fixed the problem.

[amango]

Ah! So I have to wait for Medion making a firmware update... :)

[CruNcher]

bitrate was ~550 kbps 3 h 640x272 without sound standard b-frame settings qpel and hvs matrix testing more samples and clips now

[Colyptic]

I see XviD 1.0 QPel is supported. As I believe QPel code changed alot in dev-api4, I'm just curious if dev-api3 QPel is supported by the elta?

[CruNcher]

The CBR unsync problem has been pinpointed
the problem is the sampling frequenzy of 44100 Hz for MP3 CBR files this
is causeing the proportional delay @ playback a sampling frequenzy of 48000 Hz works fine and shows no problems.

[plazz2000]

What audio formats does the elta 8883 support?

Is there a list of specifications or maybe a review of it somewhere?

I'd like to have more information before I buy one.

Is it true that XviD GMC (3-warppoint) and OGM will be supported in February?

EDIT: Never mind that final question. I read doom9's answer in another thread.

[CruNcher]

@plazz2000 look above @ the test this is the same for the elta player the Chips features are the same. Only the firmware is newer and fixes some bugs like the scaling problem and some other thinks like the servo
function their is still no mentioning what the GE Chip Series is missing or what the differences is between them but the GE Chip is mostly used for Low budget players in the price range of 80 € the DE chip is used in the Price Region of about 120 € but for me the 80 € player seemes the same besides the firmware so you can save alot of money but still it's not known if their ever will be updates for the GE based players nothing official yet.

[CruNcher]

Ok some updates on the front trying to update the medion 7457 with the new Nevir Firmware failed in 4 of 5 tries so be aware updating @ all is a risky thing for those players as it seems. Even some Nevir Players are dead now :( And yes my player is dead also :D

[samcook2003]

Hi,

I know it was stupid, but I updated my Medion 7457 with the Elta-Firmware. Result --> Before I shutdown the player he showed me the elta-label and the setup for this player, but after I shut him down,
he was dead.

Conclusion: Don't be as stupid as I was.

cu

Sam