Media Player .NET (MPDN) - D3D HQ GPU Video Renderer [v2.49.0/v1.31.0 27 Dec 2018]

[elraffa]

Hi...If I going to play 1080p movies in 1080p monitor, what settings should I use to sharpen image quality? My pc specs are: I5 - gtx770 - 12gb ram - Windows 10 64bits

[aufkrawall]

You can use sharpen shaders (e.g. AdaptiveSharpen, FineSharp or Lumasharpen) via image processor render script.
Chroma scaling will hardly have much influence with filmed content, try Sinc-Blackman 8 taps AR.

[elraffa]

You can use sharpen shaders (e.g. AdaptiveSharpen, FineSharp or Lumasharpen) via image processor render script.
Chroma scaling will hardly have much influence with filmed content, try Sinc-Blackman 8 taps AR.

Thanks for reply.. Script chain like the image, it´s ok?
http://i.imgur.com/x0v2Axp.jpg

[Eyldebrandt]

Hey.

The only issue I currently have is annoying.
I suspect this is related to dotnet.

On many mkv files (maybe 70%), which all are BD Remux, MPDN gives me the followed error message when i try to play them :

Object reference not set to an instance of an object

If my translation is correct.
For the information, all the files have been realised with the exact same process and the same software.
And some are plays, and others are not.

And some days ago, they were played easily, and today no longer.

[Eyldebrandt]

Thanks for reply.. Script chain like the image, it´s ok?


I think AS on hlsl claim two scripts, pass one and pass two.
The hlsl file of pass two is the one where you can adjust the strength of the AS.

[Shiandow]

Hey.

The only issue I currently have is annoying.
I suspect this is related to dotnet.

On many mkv files (maybe 70%), which all are BD Remux, MPDN gives me the followed error message when i try to play them :

Object reference not set to an instance of an object

If my translation is correct.
For the information, all the files have been realised with the exact same process and the same software.
And some are plays, and others are not.

And some days ago, they were played easily, and today no longer.

That doesn't sound like dotnet, but rather a bug somewhere in the c# code (either in the extensions or in MPDN itself). If you go to General-Debugging you can enable a more advanced error dialog which contains more information. Especially the Stack Trace would be helpful.

[Eyldebrandt]

Here is what I have :

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An unexpected error 'System.NullReferenceException' has occurred.

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Error Type = System.NullReferenceException
Error Message = La référence d'objet n'est pas définie à une instance d'un objet.
Error Source = MediaPlayerDotNet
Error Site = Void OpenMedia(System.String, Boolean, Boolean, Boolean)
Error occurred = à MediaPlayerDotNet.MainForm.OpenMedia(String , Boolean , Boolean , Boolean )
à MediaPlayerDotNet.MainForm.f.A()
à a.R.A()
OS Version = Microsoft Windows NT 6.3.9600.0
Total Physical Memory = 31,9 GB
Available Physical Memory = 26,6 GB
Date Time = 27/08/2015 01:25:10
User Name = TITAN\chris
Application Startup Path = C:\HTPC\MPDN
Application Executable Path = C:\HTPC\MPDN\MediaPlayerDotNet.exe
CurrentDirectory = E:\Blu-ray\Child 44 (Daniel Espinosa - 2015) - BDRX - AVC - DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 - Vost
SystemDirectory = C:\WINDOWS\system32
Ran As Admin = False
HasShutdownStarted = False
MachineName = TITAN
ProcessorCount = 8
LogicalDrives = C:\, D:\, E:\, F:\, G:\, H:\, I:\, J:\, K:\, L:\
EnvironmentVariables = COMPUTERNAME = TITAN; USERPROFILE = C:\Users\chris; HOMEPATH = \Users\chris; LOCALAPPDATA = C:\Users\chris\AppData\Local; JD2_HOME = C:\Users\chris\AppData\Local\JDownloader v2.0; PSModulePath = C:\WINDOWS\system32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\Modules\; PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = AMD64; Path = C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\iCLS Client\;C:\Program Files\Intel\iCLS Client\;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\WINDOWS\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\DAL;C:\Program Files\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\IPT;C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\DAL;C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\IPT;C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common; CommonProgramFiles(x86) = C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files; ProgramFiles(x86) = C:\Program Files (x86); PROCESSOR_LEVEL = 6; LOGONSERVER = \\MicrosoftAccount; PATHEXT = .COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.MSC; HOMEDRIVE = C:; SystemRoot = C:\WINDOWS; SESSIONNAME = Console; ALLUSERSPROFILE = C:\ProgramData; PUBLIC = C:\Users\Public; FPS_BROWSER_APP_PROFILE_STRING = Internet Explorer; APPDATA = C:\Users\chris\AppData\Roaming; PROCESSOR_REVISION = 3a09; USERNAME = chris; CommonProgramW6432 = C:\Program Files\Common Files; TEMP = C:\Users\chris\AppData\Local\Temp; CommonProgramFiles = C:\Program Files\Common Files; OS = Windows_NT; USERDOMAIN_ROAMINGPROFILE = TITAN; PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = Intel64 Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9, GenuineIntel; ComSpec = C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe; SystemDrive = C:; FPS_BROWSER_USER_PROFILE_STRING = Default; ProgramFiles = C:\Program Files; NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = 8; TMP = C:\Users\chris\AppData\Local\Temp; ProgramData = C:\ProgramData; ProgramW6432 = C:\Program Files; windir = C:\WINDOWS; USERDOMAIN = TITAN
RuntimeVersion = 4.0.30319.42000
Thread Count = 34
Handle Count = 848
VM Size = 105,3 GB
Peak VM Size = 105,4 GB
Working Set Size = 162 MB
Max Working Set Size = 1,3 MB
Min Working Set Size = 200 KB
Modules = MediaPlayerDotNet.exe, ntdll.dll, MSCOREE.DLL, KERNEL32.dll, KERNELBASE.dll, avcuf64.dll, ADVAPI32.dll, msvcrt.dll, sechost.dll, RPCRT4.dll, mscoreei.dll, SHLWAPI.dll, combase.dll, GDI32.dll, USER32.dll, IMM32.DLL, MSCTF.dll, kernel.appcore.dll, VERSION.dll, clr.dll, MSVCR120_CLR0400.dll, mscorlib.ni.dll, ole32.dll, bcryptPrimitives.dll, uxtheme.dll, ADvdDiscHlp64.dll, System.ni.dll, CRYPTSP.dll, bcrypt.dll, rsaenh.dll, CRYPTBASE.dll, System.Core.ni.dll, MediaPlayerDotNet.ni.exe, System.Drawing.ni.dll, System.Windows.Forms.ni.dll, Mpdn.Core.ni.dll, comctl32.dll, dwmapi.dll, System.Configuration.ni.dll, System.Xml.ni.dll, gdiplus.dll, DWrite.dll, WindowsCodecs.dll, CommandLine.ni.dll, clrjit.dll, OLEAUT32.dll, shell32.dll, windows.storage.dll, shcore.dll, powrprof.dll, profapi.dll, YAXLib.ni.dll, System.Xml.Linq.ni.dll, clbcatq.dll, dataexchange.dll, d2d1.dll, d3d11.dll, dcomp.dll, dxgi.dll, twinapi.appcore.dll, USERENV.dll, MediaInfoDotNet.ni.dll, VideoFrameServicesNative.dll, MediaInfo.dll, SharpDX.Direct3D9.ni.dll, SharpDX.ni.dll, d3d9.dll, nvd3dumx.dll, nvspcap64.dll, SETUPAPI.dll, CFGMGR32.dll, PSAPI.DLL, WINHTTP.dll, nvapi64.dll, SspiCli.dll, SharpDX.DXGI.ni.dll, D3D9NativeServices.dll, AVRT.dll, dxva2.dll, WINMM.dll, WTSAPI32.dll, WINMMBASE.dll, DEVOBJ.dll, opencl.dll, nvSCPAPI64.dll, WINSTA.dll, WINTRUST.dll, MSASN1.dll, CRYPT32.dll, SharpDX.Direct3D11.ni.dll, nvwgf2umx.dll, nvopencl.dll, WS2_32.dll, NSI.dll, Dx11Font.dll, FW1FontWrapper.dll, CSScriptLibrary.ni.dll, DirectShowLib-2005.ni.dll, WindowsBase.ni.dll, PresentationCore.ni.dll, explorerframe.dll, rasapi32.dll, rasman.dll, rtutils.dll, mswsock.dll, ondemandconnroutehelper.dll, IPHLPAPI.DLL, WINNSI.DLL, dhcpcsvc6.DLL, quartz.dll, dhcpcsvc.DLL, LAVSplitter.ax, avformat-lav-56.dll, avutil-lav-54.dll, avcodec-lav-56.dll, libbluray.dll, avresample-lav-2.dll, DNSAPI.dll, rasadhlp.dll, fwpuclnt.dll, qcap.dll, sxs.dll, XySubFilter.dll, COMDLG32.dll, WINSPOOL.DRV, WININET.dll, LAVVideo.ax, swscale-lav-3.dll, avfilter-lav-5.dll, nvcuda.dll, secur32.dll, schannel.DLL, mskeyprotect.dll, ncrypt.dll, NTASN1.dll, ncryptsslp.dll, gpapi.dll, System.ComponentModel.DataAnnotations.ni.dll, Microsoft.ExceptionMessageBox.ni.dll, Microsoft.VisualBasic.ni.dll, System.Runtime.Serialization.ni.dll, diasymreader.dll

[elraffa]

I think AS on hlsl claim two scripts, pass one and pass two.
The hlsl file of pass two is the one where you can adjust the strength of the AS.

Yes, that´s right. Also SuperRes like the image, increse a bit the sharpen.
http://i.imgur.com/cWds9Lz.jpg

[Zachs]

Here it is :

TITLE: MediaPlayerDotNet Error
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An unexpected error 'System.NullReferenceException' has occurred.

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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:

La référence d'objet n'est pas définie à une instance d'un objet. (MediaPlayerDotNet)

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BUTTONS:

&Ignore
&Abort
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Could you get the stack trace please? There's a little button on the lower left of the error dialog box that will show the detail and in there you'll find the stack trace. Make sure Debug Dialog is enabled.

EDIT: Ah just saw your edits. Thanks, I'll have a look.

[Zachs]

Hey.

The only issue I currently have is annoying.
I suspect this is related to dotnet.

On many mkv files (maybe 70%), which all are BD Remux, MPDN gives me the followed error message when i try to play them :

Object reference not set to an instance of an object

If my translation is correct.
For the information, all the files have been realised with the exact same process and the same software.
And some are plays, and others are not.

And some days ago, they were played easily, and today no longer.

Very strange. I had a look at the stack trace but I can't seem to figure out what's causing it. So a few questions.

1) Can you try reinstalling MPDN to see if it fixes it?
2) Are you running MPDN extensions? From the debug info I think it's not running but if it is, could you test MPDN without its extensions?
3) Can you try clearing the app settings to see if it fixes the problem? You can delete the whole %localappdata%\MediaPlayerDotNet folder. But make sure you do a backup of it first in case it's not related to that problem.

[Eyldebrandt]

Very strange. I had a look at the stack trace but I can't seem to figure out what's causing it. So a few questions.

1) Can you try reinstalling MPDN to see if it fixes it?
2) Are you running MPDN extensions? From the debug info I think it's not running but if it is, could you test MPDN without its extensions?
3) Can you try clearing the app settings to see if it fixes the problem? You can delete the whole %localappdata%\MediaPlayerDotNet folder. But make sure you do a backup of it first in case it's not related to that problem.


1) Done twice, change nothing, unfortunately
2)maybe it's a lead, because extensions are running, and works well with the .mkv I can play.
Anyway, issue's occured even without the extensions.
3)will try this right now.
Edit : change nothing.

Thx for the support.

[Zachs]

OK can you try running the AnyCPU edition (download and unzip the file) and see if it happens there as well?
And do you happen to have a short sample of your MKV handy so I could try replicate the problem?

EDIT: BTW does the issue only occur when you try to open those specific MKV files? Or does it happen randomly?

[Eyldebrandt]

OK can you try running the AnyCPU edition (download and unzip the file) and see if it happens there as well?
And do you happen to have a short sample of your MKV handy so I could try replicate the problem?

EDIT: BTW does the issue only occur when you try to open those specific MKV files? Or does it happen randomly?

Just downloaded to try.
Well, that concern hundreds of +25GB files, well, they're untouched Blu-rays.
And yes and no for the random type. Well, at the moment, that occur on the sames files, avg 70% of all of them. But yesterday, some files that I cannot play are played now, and others I was able to play are no longer played right now.

[Eyldebrandt]

Same result with anycpu edition, on the exact sames files.

[Zachs]

Hmm. OK I'll need to isolate this problem further - Can you try with this old MPDN version 2.39.3 (http://mpdn.zachsaw.com/Old%20Releases/2.39.3/)? Just grab the AnyCPU edition and run it without extensions.

[Eyldebrandt]

With this build, I still have the issue, but report is different.
Here it is

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An unexpected error 'Mpdn.VideoPlayer.DsGraphException' has occurred.

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Error Type = Mpdn.VideoPlayer.DsGraphException
Error Message = Failed to render file 'E:\Blu-ray\Child 44 (Daniel Espinosa - 2015) - BDRX - AVC - DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 - Vost\Child 44 (Daniel Espinosa - 2015) - BDRX - AVC - DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 - Vost.mkv'

Details:
Video graph failed to render

Hint:
Make sure video filters are installed and configured properly
Error Source = MediaPlayerDotNet
Error Site = Void .ctor(System.String, D)
Error occurred = à d.H..ctor(String , D )
à B.H.A(String , B )
à MediaPlayerDotNet.MainForm.c(String )
à MediaPlayerDotNet.MainForm.A(String , Boolean , Boolean , Boolean )
à MediaPlayerDotNet.MainForm.OpenMedia(String , Boolean , Boolean , Boolean )
à MediaPlayerDotNet.MainForm.P(Object , EventArgs )
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
à System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
à System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message& m)
à System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)
OS Version = Microsoft Windows NT 6.3.9600.0
Total Physical Memory = 31,9 GB
Available Physical Memory = 26,6 GB
Date Time = 27/08/2015 02:24:08
User Name = TITAN\chris
Application Startup Path = G:\Apps\MPDN\MediaPlayerDotNet_AnyCPU_2_39_3_3251
Application Executable Path = G:\Apps\MPDN\MediaPlayerDotNet_AnyCPU_2_39_3_3251\MediaPlayerDotNet.exe
CurrentDirectory = G:\Apps\MPDN\MediaPlayerDotNet_AnyCPU_2_39_3_3251
SystemDirectory = C:\WINDOWS\system32
Ran As Admin = True
HasShutdownStarted = False
MachineName = TITAN
ProcessorCount = 8
LogicalDrives = C:\, D:\, E:\, F:\, G:\, H:\, I:\, J:\, K:\
EnvironmentVariables = COMPUTERNAME = TITAN; USERPROFILE = C:\Users\chris; HOMEPATH = \Users\chris; LOCALAPPDATA = C:\Users\chris\AppData\Local; JD2_HOME = C:\Users\chris\AppData\Local\JDownloader v2.0; PSModulePath = C:\WINDOWS\system32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\Modules\; PROCESSOR_ARCHITECTURE = AMD64; Path = C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\iCLS Client\;C:\Program Files\Intel\iCLS Client\;C:\WINDOWS\system32;C:\WINDOWS;C:\WINDOWS\System32\Wbem;C:\WINDOWS\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\;C:\Program Files\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\DAL;C:\Program Files\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\IPT;C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\DAL;C:\Program Files (x86)\Intel\Intel(R) Management Engine Components\IPT;C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\PhysX\Common; CommonProgramFiles(x86) = C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files; ProgramFiles(x86) = C:\Program Files (x86); PROCESSOR_LEVEL = 6; LOGONSERVER = \\MicrosoftAccount; PATHEXT = .COM;.EXE;.BAT;.CMD;.VBS;.VBE;.JS;.JSE;.WSF;.WSH;.MSC; HOMEDRIVE = C:; SystemRoot = C:\WINDOWS; ALLUSERSPROFILE = C:\ProgramData; PUBLIC = C:\Users\Public; APPDATA = C:\Users\chris\AppData\Roaming; PROCESSOR_REVISION = 3a09; USERNAME = chris; CommonProgramW6432 = C:\Program Files\Common Files; CommonProgramFiles = C:\Program Files\Common Files; OS = Windows_NT; USERDOMAIN_ROAMINGPROFILE = TITAN; PROCESSOR_IDENTIFIER = Intel64 Family 6 Model 58 Stepping 9, GenuineIntel; ComSpec = C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe; SystemDrive = C:; TEMP = C:\Users\chris\AppData\Local\Temp; ProgramFiles = C:\Program Files; NUMBER_OF_PROCESSORS = 8; TMP = C:\Users\chris\AppData\Local\Temp; ProgramData = C:\ProgramData; ProgramW6432 = C:\Program Files; windir = C:\WINDOWS; USERDOMAIN = TITAN; __COMPAT_LAYER = DetectorsWin8 Installer
RuntimeVersion = 4.0.30319.42000
Thread Count = 18
Handle Count = 555
VM Size = 53 GB
Peak VM Size = 53 GB
Working Set Size = 124,2 MB
Max Working Set Size = 1,3 MB
Min Working Set Size = 200 KB
Modules = MediaPlayerDotNet.exe, ntdll.dll, MSCOREE.DLL, KERNEL32.dll, KERNELBASE.dll, avcuf64.dll, apphelp.dll, ADVAPI32.dll, msvcrt.dll, sechost.dll, RPCRT4.dll, mscoreei.dll, SHLWAPI.dll, combase.dll, GDI32.dll, USER32.dll, IMM32.DLL, MSCTF.dll, kernel.appcore.dll, VERSION.dll, clr.dll, MSVCR120_CLR0400.dll, mscorlib.ni.dll, ole32.dll, bcryptPrimitives.dll, uxtheme.dll, clrjit.dll, OLEAUT32.dll, System.ni.dll, System.Core.ni.dll, System.Drawing.ni.dll, System.Windows.Forms.ni.dll, cryptsp.dll, bcrypt.dll, rsaenh.dll, CRYPTBASE.dll, DirectShowLib-2005.ni.dll, comctl32.dll, dwmapi.dll, System.Configuration.ni.dll, System.Xml.ni.dll, gdiplus.dll, DWrite.dll, WindowsCodecs.dll, CommandLine.ni.dll, shell32.dll, windows.storage.dll, shcore.dll, powrprof.dll, profapi.dll, System.Xml.Linq.ni.dll, clbcatq.dll, dataexchange.dll, d2d1.dll, d3d11.dll, dcomp.dll, dxgi.dll, twinapi.appcore.dll, USERENV.dll, SharpDX.ni.dll, VideoFrameServicesNative.dll, MediaInfo.dll, SharpDX.Direct3D9.ni.dll, d3d9.dll, nvd3dumx.dll, nvspcap64.dll, SETUPAPI.dll, CFGMGR32.dll, PSAPI.DLL, WINHTTP.dll, nvapi64.dll, SspiCli.dll, SharpDX.DXGI.ni.dll, SharpDX.Direct3D11.ni.dll, D3D9NativeServices.dll, AVRT.dll, dxva2.dll, WINMM.dll, WTSAPI32.dll, WINMMBASE.dll, DEVOBJ.dll, opencl.dll, nvSCPAPI64.dll, WINSTA.dll, WINTRUST.dll, MSASN1.dll, CRYPT32.dll, nvwgf2umx.dll, nvopencl.dll, WS2_32.dll, NSI.dll, d3dx9_43.dll, usp10.dll, tiptsf.dll, quartz.dll, LAVSplitter.ax, avformat-lav-56.dll, avutil-lav-54.dll, avcodec-lav-56.dll, libbluray.dll, avresample-lav-2.dll, qcap.dll, sxs.dll, XySubFilter.dll, COMDLG32.dll, WINSPOOL.DRV, WININET.dll, LAVVideo.ax, swscale-lav-3.dll, avfilter-lav-5.dll, devenum.dll, ntmarta.dll, msdmo.dll, MMDevApi.dll, PROPSYS.dll, wdmaud.drv, ksuser.dll, AUDIOSES.DLL, wintypes.dll, msacm32.drv, MSACM32.dll, midimap.dll, dsound.dll, Microsoft.ExceptionMessageBox.ni.dll, Microsoft.VisualBasic.ni.dll, System.Management.ni.dll, diasymreader.dll


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Failed to render file 'E:\Blu-ray\Child 44 (Daniel Espinosa - 2015) - BDRX - AVC - DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 - Vost\Child 44 (Daniel Espinosa - 2015) - BDRX - AVC - DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 - Vost.mkv'

Details:
Video graph failed to render

Hint:
Make sure video filters are installed and configured properly (MediaPlayerDotNet)

------------------------------
Program Location:

à d.H..ctor(String , D )
à B.H.A(String , B )
à MediaPlayerDotNet.MainForm.c(String )
à MediaPlayerDotNet.MainForm.A(String , Boolean , Boolean , Boolean )
à MediaPlayerDotNet.MainForm.OpenMedia(String , Boolean , Boolean , Boolean )
à MediaPlayerDotNet.MainForm.P(Object , EventArgs )
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.RaiseEvent(Object key, EventArgs e)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripMenuItem.OnClick(EventArgs e)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleClick(EventArgs e)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripItem.HandleMouseUp(MouseEventArgs e)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.OnMouseUp(MouseEventArgs mea)
à System.Windows.Forms.Control.WmMouseUp(Message& m, MouseButtons button, Int32 clicks)
à System.Windows.Forms.Control.WndProc(Message& m)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStrip.WndProc(Message& m)
à System.Windows.Forms.ToolStripDropDown.WndProc(Message& m)
à System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

===================================

Élément introuvable. (Exception de HRESULT : 0x80070490) (MediaPlayerDotNet)

------------------------------
Program Location:

à d.H.A(String , a )
à d.H..ctor(String , D )


Maybe it's an issue relative to the PC itself, nuh ?

[Zachs]

No no this is a different issue - it simply means you haven't got LAV filters installed. Did you uninstall your x64 edition before running the AnyCPU edition? If you did, you'll need to reinstall the x64 edition before running the AnyCPU edition again. Uninstalling MPDN causes LAV filters to get uninstalled too.

[Eyldebrandt]

Nope, he's still installed.
Really strange issue.

[Zachs]

Nope, he's still installed.
Really strange issue.

Just to confirm, can you extract all of the files to a new empty folder?

[Eyldebrandt]

Well, I've installed the portable version on an other HDD, but yes, I can and I have.

[Zachs]

Can you play any files at all with this old AnyCPU version?

[Eyldebrandt]

Can play well the same ones I can play with classic install + extensions, and cannot plays the same ones.

This is what I really can't understand.
All the files have been encoded with the exact same software, on the sames conditions.
I figured it out if I can't play no one, but there, it's a mistery.

And I'm pretty sure than tomorrow or in a couple of days, files I can't play will works, and some I can play right now will no longer. XD

[Zachs]

Well with the old version it's complaining that LAV can't open the files for some reason.
Perhaps if you try using something like graph edit (I use GraphStudioNext) and manually use the chain LAV Source Splitter --> LAV Video Decoder --> Video Renderer to check if LAV filter is working at all.

[Eyldebrandt]

LAV is working.
I uninstall the MPDN integrated LAV version and install the classic LAV x64, for science.

Result is identiqual.
Files played by the classic MPDN are played by the old one, and those who aren't, aren't with the old one.

So, Maybe it's an issue from LAV with MPDN.
Funny thing is if I try to play the files "corrupted" with MPC + madVR + LAV, they're played normally.

I understand nothing :D

[x7007]

An honest question - do you know what NNEDI3 does?

I just know when using potplayer and watching 1080p/720p Remux or Bluray MKV quality the image was really noticeable compare to JINC and others I tried. I just see the different with my TV. Philips 7007, it has IPS panel as far as I know and the quality is better than 50% of the normal pc monitors. the only issue it has is no support for 0-255 RGB only 16-235 Limited. but I notice and would like to keep using NNEDI3. My friend to compare do too saw a different between what we used JINC or the Lazarvos or something, so it can't just be my eyes. he has Dell 22 or something monitor the one with the good panel. All I want is to know MPDN is using NNEDI3 so I can start watching movies with it, but it doesn't look like it works, I always get 6.0ms render time. I am using 353.49 is that's matter for the problem.


:p
Upscaling is not even used if you watch 1080p video in 1080p display.
so why bother about setting??? those settings are useful only for lower resolution video.

I just notice the different , my friend too.

[Eyldebrandt]

I found the problem -_-
That was.... XySubfilter -_-
The Fuck ? -_-

When i disable him, everything works fine.

Edit : the exact problem was : when I set Xysubfilters on "never load", MPDN fails to play large amount of files.

Well, that is not an answer for the issue on the old MPDN.

[Zachs]

I just know when using potplayer and watching 1080p/720p Remux or Bluray MKV quality the image was really noticeable compare to JINC and others I tried. I just see the different with my TV. Philips 7007, it has IPS panel as far as I know and the quality is better than 50% of the normal pc monitors. the only issue it has is no support for 0-255 RGB only 16-235 Limited. but I notice and would like to keep using NNEDI3. My friend to compare do too saw a different between what we used JINC or the Lazarvos or something, so it can't just be my eyes. he has Dell 22 or something monitor the one with the good panel. All I want is to know MPDN is using NNEDI3 so I can start watching movies with it, but it doesn't look like it works, I always get 6.0ms render time. I am using 353.49 is that's matter for the problem.

FWIW madVR *does not* use NNEDI3 when rendering 1080p on 1080p screen for luma as well. Are you talking about chroma upscaling with NNEDI3?

[Zachs]

I found the problem -_-
That was.... XySubfilter -_-
The Fuck ? -_-

When i disable him, everything works fine.

Is that the same problem for the latest MPDN version too?

EDIT: Ah found the problem. It would appear by selecting "Do not load" subtitles in XySubFilter, it doesn't just skip the loading part - it simply doesn't want to connect to anything in the graph! So it's not really a "Do not load" subtitles option - it's actually a "Do not use" XySubFilter option! I'll have to make a workaround to ignore the error when that happens.

[Eyldebrandt]

Yep.
Everything works fine now.

At least, you do not wasting your time too much, thx a lot for your kind and comprehensive support.

[Zachs]

No thank *you* for helping me debug this!
If it affects you, chances are it'll affect others too.

[elraffa]

Hi Zachs..I´ve posted earlier and want to know if my settings are fine for a sharper image quality. Is there any other settings for it?

[Zachs]

If you're viewing 1080p on 1080p screen, SuperRes won't have any effects. If you're upscaling, you may want to turn down the SuperRes strength (if you're running 3 pass, you should use a much lower strength e.g. 0.5) and leave super-xBR settings default (1.0 and 1.0) with Use third pass enabled.

But otherwise how sharp you want it really comes down to personal choice.

[elraffa]

If you're viewing 1080p on 1080p screen, SuperRes won't have any effects. If you're upscaling, you may want to turn down the SuperRes strength (if you're running 3 pass, you should use a much lower strength e.g. 0.5) and leave super-xBR settings default (1.0 and 1.0) with Use third pass enabled.

But otherwise how sharp you want it really comes down to personal choice.
Thanks Zachs..

[Zachs]

Just a quick note about MPDN AudioScripts.

AudioScripts require that you have OpenCL runtimes installed for your CPU as it can currently only use the Intel iGPU or the CPU. If you want to use audio scripts, you need to make sure you have these runtimes installed on your system.

OpenCL CPU runtimes,
Intel:
https://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/opencl-drivers
AMD:
http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/opencl-zone/amd-accelerated-parallel-processing-app-sdk/

Note that you can use Intel OpenCL runtimes on AMD CPUs too but performance isn't great whereas using AMD runtimes on Intel CPUs can give greater performance than Intel's own runtimes.

[x7007]

FWIW madVR *does not* use NNEDI3 when rendering 1080p on 1080p screen for luma as well. Are you talking about chroma upscaling with NNEDI3?


I think so

[Zachs]

I think so

MPDN doesn't have a NNEDI3 chroma scaler yet but it's really simple to add - just that no one had the time to get to it yet. And like a lot of other experts have said, NNEDI3 on chroma is just a waste of power. Chroma by nature has less high contrast edges than Luma (see this picture (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/29/Barn-yuv.png)), so an edge detection algo like NNEDI3 isn't going to be much good. In fact, if you wanted a proper NNEDI3 chroma scaler, you'll need to retrain the neural networks to work on chroma only. And this has been discussed before, tritical (who created NNEDI3) has not released his NN training software.

A better alternative would be to use SuperChromaRes, which our resident expert / developer Shiandow has mentioned that it is much more suited to chroma scaling than NNEDI3. Sinc-Blackman EWA 8-tap with AR also works very well as a chroma scaler as it is very sharp.

NNEDI3 isn't the be all and end all scaler that you might think it is.

[Zachs]

For those of you asking for something similar to TomSteady's normalizer with gain, I've made a similar script. It's called Dynamic Range Compressor.

The parameters in the config dialog is almost similar to this (http://manual.audacityteam.org/o/man/compressor.html) so you should be able to figure out most of it.

This is currently only available on GitHub and can be used with MPDN test build 3375 (http://mpdn.zachsaw.com/Test%20Builds/3375/).

Cheers.

[lanzorg]

Hey Eyldebrandt!

- Are you going to create a MPDN tutorial like you did with Avisynth?
- Could you share your current config?
- What about to add you expertise to create presets directly inside MPDN?

Hey MPDN developers!

- Are you going to create something like Kodi DSPlayer?
- Does MPDN work with youtube-dl like with VLC or mpv?
- Does MPDN work with hybrid gpu? The previous releases didn't recognize the powerful one.

[Zachs]

- Are you going to create something like Kodi DSPlayer?
- Does MPDN work with youtube-dl like with VLC or mpv?

Not sure what Kodi DSPlayer is. So I think the answer to that one is a "no".

I've not used youtube-dl before but I suspect it downloads youtube videos into a file? If so then as long as LAV Filter can open it, MPDN will play it.

[lanzorg]

Not sure what Kodi DSPlayer is. So I think the answer to that one is a "no".

I've not used youtube-dl before but I suspect it downloads youtube videos into a file? If so then as long as LAV Filter can open it, MPDN will play it.

Kodi DSPlayer is a Kodi internal player that works with madVR as video renderer.
Everything is integrated in Kodi just like the default player.
http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=223175

I use youtube-dl for streaming not downloading, it support a tons of websites.
With VLC and mpv, it works very well but with MPC-HC that uses LAV Filters it doesn't.

[aufkrawall]

A better alternative would be to use SuperChromaRes, which our resident expert / developer Shiandow has mentioned that it is much more suited to chroma scaling than NNEDI3.
I have to disagree, SuperChromaRes can brighten up colors.
And with NNEDI3 for chroma, you wouldn't have to run an AR filter.
Chroma can also have hard structures, at least with artificial content (which is not fully unrealistic to appear "in the wild", like pixel art).
I'd really appreciate it if NNEDI3 for chroma would get some higher priority. :)

[huhn]

you know it needs a correction scale thanks to mpeg2 chroma position which makes nnedi3 for chroma even more questionable.

[elraffa]

how can I stretch the image to remove black bands?
http://i.imgur.com/ZG0vulG.jpg

[huhn]

do you really want to change the AR of the image?

[elraffa]

do you really want to change the AR of the image?

I thought that enabling AR 4x3 option would eliminate the black bands, but still the same..

[aufkrawall]

you know it needs a correction scale thanks to mpeg2 chroma position which makes nnedi3 for chroma even more questionable.
Some people prefer it and with MPDN becoming more popular, there will always be people asking.
Especially if there is no "MPDN options explained" thread and if good chroma scalers like Sinc-Blackman are quite hidden in the UI.
It's not a nonsense feature.

[Anima123]

Some people prefer it and with MPDN becoming more popular, there will always be people asking.
Especially if there is no "MPDN options explained" thread and if good chroma scalers like Sinc-Blackman are quite hidden in the UI.
It's not a nonsense feature.

Are you talking about the Sinc-Blackman configure in the MPDN's chroma upscaling options, or the Sinc-Blackman in the script chain options as EWA scaler?

[Zachs]

I thought that enabling AR 4x3 option would eliminate the black bands, but still the same..

Set "Video Letter Boxing" to "No letter boxing (Clip video)"

I have to disagree, SuperChromaRes can brighten up colors.
And with NNEDI3 for chroma, you wouldn't have to run an AR filter.
Chroma can also have hard structures, at least with artificial content (which is not fully unrealistic to appear "in the wild", like pixel art).
I'd really appreciate it if NNEDI3 for chroma would get some higher priority. :)

It's got a high-ish priority. But there are other even higher priority things that needed to be done first.

Are you talking about the Sinc-Blackman configure in the MPDN's chroma upscaling options, or the Sinc-Blackman in the script chain options as EWA scaler?

Sinc-Blackman EWA is the sharpest of all the scalers so far, so it's a good chroma scaler. There's an outstanding bug currently that makes the EWA chroma scaler fallback to MPDN's internal chroma scaler if your Luma doesn't need upscaling (i.e. the bug is it's checking for luma size when it's meant to check for chroma size).

[elraffa]

Set "Video Letter Boxing" to "No letter boxing (Clip video)"
Not working .. black bands are still.. In potplayer I can manually stretch the image with numpad 8 key. Is there anything similar in MPDN?

[huhn]

than they are hard coded