HD-DVD (EVO files) to WMV HD

[Sephiroth0000]

Sepiroth first and foremost thank you for your guide it has been very helpful.

Do you think you can explain why a windows media encode would crash at the same place in the movie everytime?
Ive tried everything. Ive changed VBR modes Ive adjusted audio levels, conversion size, what am I missing?...I just cant figure this one out .

If it is the same place in the movie everytime and its the same movie you are doing then all I can imagine is the original video file may be error'd. I suggest getting another copy of the file and seeing how you go from there. Also if you could paste the settings and error code it may help :)

[Sephiroth0000]

Thanks for the guide Sephiroth0000! :thanks:
I have one question. How do you handle audio sync problems? Some HDDVD's I own covert just fine but others like a certain Giant Robot movie are giving me fits.:devil:
Any help/hints/voodoo would be welcome.
Thanks

I take it you mean the audio is out of time. Are you attempting it with a true HD source audio file? When you EvoDemux the file it shows what audio streams are TrueHD and what are not. I would say try it with DolbyDigital or DTS but not TrueHD. Also how are you doing it? Are you following the guide I did or another means? If so what is the way you are doing it?

Oh and also I have found when I do transcodes for HD DVD and make my system do other stuff like browsing or what not it causes problems and especially if your PC hibernates or anything. Problems I have suffered with are crashes during the transcode aswell as choppy video. Now I just leave the PC until it is finished.

AT LEAST YOU HAVE THE GIANT ROBOT MOVIE TO PLAY WITH ! I CAN'T GET IT ANYWHERE HA, HA, HA

[superhero6]

Thanks for the quick response. I'm basically using your method.
1. I rip with AnyDVDHD.
2. Use Evodemux to get the calculated frames.
3. Then use Evodemux to rebuild the evo into one big evo.
4. Demux the h624 stream and the DD+ audio stream.
5. Build a .grf for the video stream.
Transformers_HDDVD.264>Sonic HD Demuxer>CyberLink H.264/AVC Decoder I had problems with strange artifacts with the Sonic Video filter.
6. Then create a .avs.

DirectShowSource("C:\encodes\Video_Transformers.GRF", fps=23.976, audio=false, seekzero=false, seek=true, framecount=206368)
Spline36Resize(1280,720)
Crop(0,92,0,-88)
ConvertToYV12()

6. Use this .bat file to convert and encode the audio stream to wma.

C:\EncodingTools\eac3to\eac3to.exe %1 C:\encodes\output.wav
c:\encodes\tranzcode.exe c:\encodes\output.wav c:\encodes\output
c:\encodes\wavavimux -o c:\encodes\audio.avi -iwav 6 output-FL.wav output-FR.wav output-C.wav output-LFE.wav output-SL.wav output-SR.wav -mask 63
cscript.exe c:\encodes\wmcmd.vbs -input c:\encodes\audio.avi -output c:\encodes\Encoded_audio.wma -audioonly -a_codec WMAPRO -a_mode 0 -a_setting 768_48_6_24

7. Use this bat file to encode the video

cmd /k cscript.exe c:\encodes\wmcmd.vbs -input %1 -output c:\encodes\"%~n1".wmv -v_codec WVC1 -videoonly -v_mode 0 -v_bitrate 8000000 -v_keydist 4 -v_buffer 600000 -v_quality 100 -v_preset better

8. Then I use the Windows Media Stream Editor to mux the wma and wmv together.

9. I usually then watch it and enjoy.. but not this time :confused:

It appears to me that the audio is just behind the video. I know you are supposed to be able to determine the delay using Evodemux but I have tried using methods I found from searching posts here on doom9, but they don't seem to be working. (Looking at the Video First PTS and Audio First PTS and trying to determine it from there). Maybe I'm not calculating it correctly or maybe I don't really know what I'm doing :eek:.
Thanks for your help.

[Sephiroth0000]

Thanks for the quick response. I'm basically using your method.
1. I rip with AnyDVDHD.
2. Use Evodemux to get the calculated frames.
3. Then use Evodemux to rebuild the evo into one big evo.
4. Demux the h624 stream and the DD+ audio stream.
5. Build a .grf for the video stream.
Transformers_HDDVD.264>Sonic HD Demuxer>CyberLink H.264/AVC Decoder I had problems with strange artifacts with the Sonic Video filter.
6. Then create a .avs.

DirectShowSource("C:\encodes\Video_Transformers.GRF", fps=23.976, audio=false, seekzero=false, seek=true, framecount=206368)
Spline36Resize(1280,720)
Crop(0,92,0,-88)
ConvertToYV12()

6. Use this .bat file to convert and encode the audio stream to wma.

C:\EncodingTools\eac3to\eac3to.exe %1 C:\encodes\output.wav
c:\encodes\tranzcode.exe c:\encodes\output.wav c:\encodes\output
c:\encodes\wavavimux -o c:\encodes\audio.avi -iwav 6 output-FL.wav output-FR.wav output-C.wav output-LFE.wav output-SL.wav output-SR.wav -mask 63
cscript.exe c:\encodes\wmcmd.vbs -input c:\encodes\audio.avi -output c:\encodes\Encoded_audio.wma -audioonly -a_codec WMAPRO -a_mode 0 -a_setting 768_48_6_24

7. Use this bat file to encode the video

cmd /k cscript.exe c:\encodes\wmcmd.vbs -input %1 -output c:\encodes\"%~n1".wmv -v_codec WVC1 -videoonly -v_mode 0 -v_bitrate 8000000 -v_keydist 4 -v_buffer 600000 -v_quality 100 -v_preset better

8. Then I use the Windows Media Stream Editor to mux the wma and wmv together.

9. I usually then watch it and enjoy.. but not this time :confused:

It appears to me that the audio is just behind the video. I know you are supposed to be able to determine the delay using Evodemux but I have tried using methods I found from searching posts here on doom9, but they don't seem to be working. (Looking at the Video First PTS and Audio First PTS and trying to determine it from there). Maybe I'm not calculating it correctly or maybe I don't really know what I'm doing :eek:.
Thanks for your help.

Just a hunch but I have found with some certain HD DVD's that the frame count does have to be precise (Matrix Trilogy being one of them) With EVODemux it would be better to get an exact frame rate and UNTICK fast evo checking. This way it will give you an exact counted frame rate for the film. This may clear it up abit but also with the GraphEdit it should be the file connected to SONIC HD DEMUXER and that needs to be connected to SONIC VIDEO CINEMASTER 4.3 or 4.2. There should be nothing else in GraphEdit my friend. Oh and also when I done the Matrix Trilogy I ended up using DolbyDigital or DTS audio as the TrueHD was doing my brain in.

[Sephiroth0000]

I am purchasing Transformers HD DVD aswell from the States this week so I will let you know how I get along aswell if you are unable to clear up the problem. You said you had some funky things going on with Sonic. Did you change the AllowAllRenders? Oh and also how have you registered the ax files from Graphedit? What operating system are you using aswell?

[superhero6]

I am purchasing Transformers HD DVD aswell from the States this week so I will let you know how I get along aswell if you are unable to clear up the problem. You said you had some funky things going on with Sonic. Did you change the AllowAllRenders? Oh and also how have you registered the ax files from Graphedit? What operating system are you using aswell?

When I used sonic's video 4.3 filter. There would be random green blocks and lots of pixelation at random places in the video. I didn't know about the AllowAllRenders option but I will look into that as well as unselecting the fast evo checking. I used the standard
RegSvr32 to register the dump.ax and one or two other filters who's names escape me right now. I'm still running WinXP Pro SP2 with current patches. (Haven't switched to vista - don't really want to). I did notice that Evodemux list the framerate for the H.264 video at 60fps. Thanks again for helping .... hopefully it will be an easy fix or just something I overlooked. I will take your advice and use a different audio stream. :thanks:

[Sephiroth0000]

When I used sonic's video 4.3 filter. There would be random green blocks and lots of pixelation at random places in the video. I didn't know about the AllowAllRenders option but I will look into that as well as unselecting the fast evo checking. I used the standard
RegSvr32 to register the dump.ax and one or two other filters who's names escape me right now. I'm still running WinXP Pro SP2 with current patches. (Haven't switched to vista - don't really want to). I did notice that Evodemux list the framerate for the H.264 video at 60fps. Thanks again for helping .... hopefully it will be an easy fix or just something I overlooked. I will take your advice and use a different audio stream. :thanks:

If you did not change the AllowAllRenders then that may of explained the pixelation and green blocks. My advice would be to go back and use Sonic. I mean there are actually 5 or 6 files you need to register with Graphedit but as I have stated before regsvr32 them yourself and do not use the register file that comes with Graphedit. Also make sure them ax files are in SYSTEM32 folder. Oh and with H.264 reading at 60fps that is not right either. It should be getting read at 23.967fps for PAL or 30fps for NTSC but nowhere near 60 frames my friend. I cannot wait to get hold of my copy to be honest. Oh and you also say that you demux the H.264 video stream but normally its not a H.264 stream. Give the evo a VC1 video extensions (Windows Media Video 9 Advanced) if you are still stuck with problems.

[superhero6]

Here is the info from EVOdemux about the video stream

[Sephiroth0000]

I think the extensions may be wrong. It should be being reconised as VC1. Go under options and give video the extensions of VC1, audio the extensions of DDP and subtitles SUP (that is if you wish to enclude subtitles)

[superhero6]

I double checked and it says on the disc case
"Two-Disc Set (Video Resolution/Codec) 1080p/MPEG 4" usually they say 1080p/VC-1.
I did solve my audio problem. I used delay cut on the big .wav that gets created by eac3to. I used -83ms delay and it seems to be ok. I have not watched all of the movie again but I did skip around and the audio seems to stay in sync trough out the movie.
:)

[Sephiroth0000]

I double checked and it says on the disc case
"Two-Disc Set (Video Resolution/Codec) 1080p/MPEG 4" usually they say 1080p/VC-1.
I did solve my audio problem. I used delay cut on the big .wav that gets created by eac3to. I used -83ms delay and it seems to be ok. I have not watched all of the movie again but I did skip around and the audio seems to stay in sync trough out the movie.
:)


Top stuff my friend! Well done :)

[Sephiroth0000]

Superhero just out of curiousity how long does it take for you to transcode in total my friend and what is the spec of your machine? I am only asking because I am attempting to lower the transcode time in general.

[superhero6]

Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz
2GB Ram
500GB HDD
8800 GTS Video Card

For Transformers it took about 20Hrs to encode.....:eek:

[Sephiroth0000]

Core 2 Duo 2.4Ghz
2GB Ram
500GB HDD
8800 GTS Video Card

For Transformers it took about 20Hrs to encode.....:eek:

Its the H.264 format you are encoding it in is'nt it?

[Sephiroth0000]

I mean I am encoding with WMV-VC1 (Windows Media Video 9 Advanced also known as) and its taking me on avergare 50 hours to do 300 with 5.1 surround sound and full 1920x1080 resolution. I was looking at going over to Quad Core but instead I may just change the format I transcode to.

[superhero6]

No Im encoding to VC-1 as well but I resizing down to 1280x720 since that is all my TV supports. I wish I had a 1080p TV. 50 hrs!!!!
Your a very patient man. :)

[saint-francis]

Just for comparison it takes me about 11 - 13 hours to encode from a HD DVD @ 1080p with x264 using the MeGUI HQ Insane profile. I have a quad core @ 3.7 Ghz. A DVD takes about 2 hours. So for video encoding the quad core processors make a large difference.

[superhero6]

Just for comparison it takes me about 11 - 13 hours to encode from a HD DVD @ 1080p with x264 using the MeGUI HQ Insane profile. I have a quad core @ 3.7 Ghz. A DVD takes about 2 hours. So for video encoding the quad core processors make a large difference.

Are you resizing down or leaving it at 1920x1080? I have been keeping my eye on the prices of the quads and I might just get myself an early christmas gift.:cool:

[jaihenwood]

Sephiroth0000 do you or anyone else know of any other way to do 5.1 sound without the Nero HD DVD plug in. I can't find a trial version or torrent of it to even test it out.

It would be nice to use free tools if possible in your guide.

Thanks for all your help.

[Sephiroth0000]

Sephiroth0000 do you or anyone else know of any other way to do 5.1 sound without the Nero HD DVD plug in. I can't find a trial version or torrent of it to even test it out.

It would be nice to use free tools if possible in your guide.

Thanks for all your help.

Refer to the first page of this forum and it is the last post by OliverDB. I hope that helps you my friend. Bearing in mind though that it is 2 channel sound though and not 5.1 I will try and look into other means for you mate.

[Sephiroth0000]

My mate is going Quad core in his Media PC. He reckons he is going to overclock it so that its like 15Ghz raw power overall lol. Its going to put shame to my Dell Inspiron 9400 lol.

[Sephiroth0000]

No Im encoding to VC-1 as well but I resizing down to 1280x720 since that is all my TV supports. I wish I had a 1080p TV. 50 hrs!!!!
Your a very patient man. :)

Superhero how are you downsizing it then because I might give it a shot if the difference is not going to be too drastic. In terms of picture quality of course.

[simple]

sephiroth and of course oliverdb thanks for the guide , im very new to this so please be patient, when using demux you state
click on the VIDEO/AUDIO tab and make sure only the first video box is ticked if you want the (1080P version) or the second video box if you want the (720P version) Also make sure that only the first audio box is ticked as the rest you do not need

is this correct??

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3736/mmmxh5.png (http://imageshack.us)

[Sephiroth0000]

sephiroth and of course oliverdb thanks for the guide , im very new to this so please be patient, when using demux you state


is this correct??

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/3736/mmmxh5.png (http://imageshack.us)

Simple if you click on STATUS after you have read the EVO it will say what audio stream is what i.e the 00 one is normally TrueHD and so on. With audio when I say the first I do mean the 00 one. But you will need the BluRay HD DVD Plugin from Nero to do it with 5.1

[simple]

thanks for the reply , im sure i will get there one day:)

[superhero6]

Superhero how are you downsizing it then because I might give it a shot if the difference is not going to be too drastic. In terms of picture quality of course.
I have been using the resize filter built into avisynth. I have been using Spline36Resize(1280,720) and the video still looks damn good on my Sony 42" LCD 720P streaming to the xbox360.
Here is the link to the Avisynth wiki on the internal resizing filters.
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Spline36Resize

[Sephiroth0000]

I have been using the resize filter built into avisynth. I have been using Spline36Resize(1280,720) and the video still looks damn good on my Sony 42" LCD 720P streaming to the xbox360.
Here is the link to the Avisynth wiki on the internal resizing filters.
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Spline36Resize

Gonna give this a bash later.

[saint-francis]

Are you resizing down or leaving it at 1920x1080? I have been keeping my eye on the prices of the quads and I might just get myself an early christmas gift.:cool:

Those times are with resizing. It takes a couple hours longer for 1080.

[Sephiroth0000]

Well so far 300 takes around 50 hours at 1920x1080 with full 5.1 whilst The Matrix Trilogy is taking on average 70 hours a film.

[jaihenwood]

Refer to the first page of this forum and it is the last post by OliverDB. I hope that helps you my friend. Bearing in mind though that it is 2 channel sound though and not 5.1 I will try and look into other means for you mate.

Sephiroth0000 - I think i got eac3to.exe to work found a torrent now I'm on to the Tranzcode step. I'm excited to make progress! =)

[superhero6]

Well so far 300 takes around 50 hours at 1920x1080 with full 5.1 whilst The Matrix Trilogy is taking on average 70 hours a film.:eek::mad:
70 Hrs!!! Wow. I'm thinking of putting together a second machine just for encoding.

[saint-francis]

:eek::mad:
70 Hrs!!! Wow. I'm thinking of putting together a second machine just for encoding.

Not necessary. I use my PC for encoding, regular computer use and I use Skype voip as my main phone all on the same PC with no problems. And my encoding times are still very reasonable. One good, solid, well maintained PC is all one really needs.

[jaihenwood]

I have been using the resize filter built into avisynth. I have been using Spline36Resize(1280,720) and the video still looks damn good on my Sony 42" LCD 720P streaming to the xbox360.
Here is the link to the Avisynth wiki on the internal resizing filters.
http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/Spline36Resize

I'm trying this now.

thanks

[superhero6]

My projector is only 1280x720 so i need to resize them as well. Is Spline36Resize the best way? and when do you resize it? after your done making the wmv 1080 then convert to 720? or before all this?

thanks for your help!

I do the resizing in the avs script using a built in avisynth filter so the filter resizes then feeds the resized stream to the WMencoder. So you get to resize and then encode all at the same time. Check out the avisynth.org web sites and read the about the different built in resizing filters. I think that each one might be best suited to different types of encodes and sources. I haven't really used to many different ones, but I like the way the splineXXresize filter made the encode look. So I think preference has a lot to do with it.

[superhero6]

Not necessary. I use my PC for encoding, regular computer use and I use Skype voip as my main phone all on the same PC with no problems. And my encoding times are still very reasonable. One good, solid, well maintained PC is all one really needs.
Can you game at the same time? I get the itch to paly ET:Quake Wars and cant when the box is encoding. Maybe after I upgrade to quad core it will have the power to do all at once. I was thinking of building a Windows Home Server box to serv up all of my encodes to my 360.

[Sephiroth0000]

Sephiroth0000 - I think i got eac3to.exe to work found a torrent now I'm on to the Tranzcode step. I'm excited to make progress! =)

Glad to hear it matey! Like I said any questions please do ask mate!

[jaihenwood]

http://rapidshare.com/files/66107349/EVO_to_WMV_HD_with_5.1.doc.html

Hello everyone and anyone. This link will download EVO to WMV HD with 5.1 support guide. I do not pretend to be a mastermind with computers and can say I started originally with OliverDB's guide. All this guide is a more thorough guide going from start to finish so anyone even with basic computer knowledge can understand it. (something I could not understand with OliverDB as I think his guide is for people who know what they are doing) where is I at first did not.

Sephiroth0000 - I have used DVDFab HD Decrypter to rip 2 HD dvd to my hard drive and its free. So maybe you could recommend that in your guilde over anydvd that cost 100$?

Also i'm interested in bitrates. I need my WMV HD files to fit on a DL-DVD so i can keep my backups off my hard drive. Maybe you could add something to your guild talking about it?
here is a bitrate calculator i found:
http://www.citizeninsomniac.com/WMV/WMVBitCalc.html
I'm just not 100% how to set the bit rate and what the audio bitrate is yet. my first wmv HD is king kong and its going to be 11 GB i think. its taking me 16~ hour total est (half done)....and i have a 3.2 GHz dual core (E4300 overclocked)

what do you think?

[superhero6]

http://www.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Other-VIDEO-Tools/WM9-Bitrate-Calculator.shtml
A handy bit rate calculator to setup for size and have it calculate for the bit rate.

[simple]

sephiroth0000 :thanks: for your help and guidance the eac3to gui seem to do the trick for me fingers crossed:cool:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/2944/encoding2wb9.png (http://imageshack.us)


EDIT THINK I MISSED SOMETHING LOL

[Sephiroth0000]

Sephiroth0000 - I have used DVDFab HD Decrypter to rip 2 HD dvd to my hard drive and its free. So maybe you could recommend that in your guilde over anydvd that cost 100$?

Also i'm interested in bitrates. I need my WMV HD files to fit on a DL-DVD so i can keep my backups off my hard drive. Maybe you could add something to your guild talking about it?
here is a bitrate calculator i found:
http://www.citizeninsomniac.com/WMV/WMVBitCalc.html
I'm just not 100% how to set the bit rate and what the audio bitrate is yet. my first wmv HD is king kong and its going to be 11 GB i think. its taking me 16~ hour total est (half done)....and i have a 3.2 GHz dual core (E4300 overclocked)

what do you think?

Very impressive mate and congrats on being successful. If people would like me to add more to the guide then ok sure (need to get the time as always busy) I am actually looking into making the transcode shorter by getting to run the actual transcode in standard MS DOS because Windows slows down MS DOS and COMMAND PROMPT when it emulates MS DOS or COMMAND PROMPT. The problem is though that getting proper READ and WRITE ACCESS for NTFS drives (some programs say they do but they don't really and are restrictive). Well I am going to need to find out what the actual BITRATE should be on a HD DVD so we can get the true identical copy. If people want to get more involved and add to this please do let me know.

[DarkNite]

Just chiming in to say that spline36resize is what I use for animated and CGI content, but when it comes to live action film I use lanczosresize(1280,720,taps=8) which produces the best subjective quality for that type of source imho.

[Sephiroth0000]

Just chiming in to say that spline36resize is what I use for animated and CGI content, but when it comes to live action film I use lanczosresize(1280,720,taps=8) which produces the best subjective quality for that type of source imho.

DarkNite care to go into some more detail there at all please? Something else we can add to the guide. Why does Spline36Resize work better with CGI and animation and why Lanczosresize with action film? More detail please dude lol

[Sephiroth0000]

R.I.P my Xbox 360. My Xbox 360 fell in gaming battle to the three red rings of death on the 3rd November 2007.

*Note*
For 'Simple' and 'SuperHero' I am now adding to the guide which has now been enchanced by Simple with some cool and wicked animation aswell as screenshots of the process (so thankyou for that) I am also going to add the BitRate calculator and some other things aswell as some info using DVDFab HD Decrypter which is FREE instead of AnyDVD HD. I am going to start looking into other formats evetually which should be faster and easier and more compact :)

[jaihenwood]

i've tried to change the bitrate to make king kong smaller but when i tried to play back the video it was all messed up.

what should be my csript options? this is from Sephiroth0000 guide which works for me: -v_bframedist 1 -v_bdeltaqp 1 -v_mslevel 1 -v_codec wvc1 -v_keydist 3 -v_mode 2 -v_quality 96 -v_mmatch 0 -v_msrange 0 -v_performance 20 -v_loopfilter 1 -a_codec wmapro -a_setting 768_48_6_24

i change it to: -v_bframedist 1 -v_bdeltaqp 1 -v_mslevel 1 -v_codec wvc1 -v_keydist 3 -v_mode 3 -v_bitrate 5000000 -v_mmatch 0 -v_msrange 0 -v_performance 20 -v_loopfilter 1 -a_codec wmapro -a_setting 768_48_6_24

what did i do wrong? how should i control the video bitrate?

thanks for your help!

[Sephiroth0000]

i've tried to change the bitrate to make king kong smaller but when i tried to play back the video it was all messed up.

what should be my csript options? this is from Sephiroth0000 guide which works for me: -v_bframedist 1 -v_bdeltaqp 1 -v_mslevel 1 -v_codec wvc1 -v_keydist 3 -v_mode 2 -v_quality 96 -v_mmatch 0 -v_msrange 0 -v_performance 20 -v_loopfilter 1 -a_codec wmapro -a_setting 768_48_6_24

i change it to: -v_bframedist 1 -v_bdeltaqp 1 -v_mslevel 1 -v_codec wvc1 -v_keydist 3 -v_mode 3 -v_bitrate 5000000 -v_mmatch 0 -v_msrange 0 -v_performance 20 -v_loopfilter 1 -a_codec wmapro -a_setting 768_48_6_24

what did i do wrong? how should i control the video bitrate?

thanks for your help!


I was not able to get much info on this but from what it seems its like the average for the file quality, resolution and what not. Im only surmissing here but my guess is that these are the settings needed to support the file as a whole (but do not quote me on that)

[Sephiroth0000]

To anyone who has a Playstation 3 I am now going to attempt to convert EVO to H.264 format which is Playstation compatiable. If anyone wants to get involved and started let me know.

[jaihenwood]

I'm sorry i didn't 100% understand your reply what is the best way to specify a bitrate for an encoding?

[Sephiroth0000]

I'm sorry i didn't 100% understand your reply what is the best way to specify a bitrate for an encoding?

Im not sure you can. I kow your frame rate can decide BITRATE in general because when I want to get a higher BITRATE i increase the FRAME RATE (23.976 is used in the guide but I have done encodes with anything up to 60 FRAMES which can take the BITRATE very high)I done it with Casino Royale and ended up with something stupid like 50Mbs BitRate. Why do you wish to lower the BitRate anyway?

[jaihenwood]

I'm trying to fit my backups on a DL DVDs so I need them to be under 8.3 GB and when i encoded king kong it was close to 10 GBs because it was so long. So i need to reduce the bit rate of the video.

I just put my first backup serenity in my xbox360 last night and i got half way into the movie and the xbox360 said unrecognized format any idea why? could it be bad media? i bought cheap DL dvds.... The 4GB limit for file size has to do with the hard drive right not the dvd-rom? maybe i'll try playing the DVD in the HD DVD drive tonight.

You streamed your movies to your Xbox360 right? maybe i'll try that. you need Microsoft media center to set that up right?

[Sephiroth0000]

I'm trying to fit my backups on a DL DVDs so I need them to be under 8.3 GB and when i encoded king kong it was close to 10 GBs because it was so long. So i need to reduce the bit rate of the video.

I just put my first backup serenity in my xbox360 last night and i got half way into the movie and the xbox360 said unrecognized format any idea why? could it be bad media? i bought cheap DL dvds.... The 4GB limit for file size has to do with the hard drive right not the dvd-rom? maybe i'll try playing the DVD in the HD DVD drive tonight.

You streamed your movies to your Xbox360 right? maybe i'll try that. you need Microsoft media center to set that up right?

I do not media stream my backup's over. Mine are based on external hard drive which I connect and play via USB. Yes there is a 4GB file limitation limit with FAT32 drives but I do not use the FAT32 format. Please consult my guide at the end to find out more.